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Why would you play Umineko before Higurashi when it's a direct sequel?

>>6788075
>Why would you play Umineko or Higurashi, they're shit

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>>6788102
Hey now don't lump in Higurashi with Umineko. You may not like Higurashi but it's light years ahead of that other one.

>>6788105
>You may not like Higurashi but it's light years ahead of that other one.
Jesus Christ no.

Let's not turn this into an asspained thread right from the start, jesus.

I just finished marathoning Himawari and Aqua After.

It was quite a journey, I really liked it.
It wasn't as focused on the sci-fi aspect as I thought it would be but the development of the characters was really excellent.
If I have a complain it's that Aries feels a bit gimped even though she seems like the main heroine at first glance, she doesn't even have a good ending.

Does the PSP version add anything of relevance?

>>6788110
You are honestly trying to say that Umineko and Higurashi are on the same level? That's the most laughable opinion on /jp/

>>6788191
Not him, but I am saying that they are very different and that one doesn't get all that much from comparing the two.

It would be like comparing batman to say, spiderman.
Sure, they are both heroes who fight crime, but come on.

>>6788191
Yeah, Umineko is much better.

>>6788198
You can say which one you think is better.
Why can't I say that spiderman is better than Batman?

What... I... Eh... Why...
T-There must be a very good reason for doing that! I bet there is!...
Also the VA cast is delicious, Sorimachi, Ootori, Kageaki, bueno.jpg

I'm reading Air, just started.
I neevr watche dthe anime but still know how it works, not taht I minded it much when I actually watched the anime and then read Clannad.
I expect to cry KEY, don't disappoint.

>>6788201
You could, but it would draw closer and closer to the "Apples and Oranges" argument the further one would stretch it.

And sure thing, one can of course compare flaws and strengths of certain works, and re-evaluate ones opinions on said works and matters because of it.
But in the end, when taken "too far", it just simply doesn't mesh well if the works aren't doing the "same thing" if you get my point.

You can certainly prefer an apple over an orange, but would you really be able to argue that one is objectively superior or inferior to the other?

And sure, this is just the basic idea, I am not saying it applies 100% in this case, but yeah.

Last finished was Forest. Really what the fuck man. Can someone tell me his understanding of this? I'm sure in my jp skills, but this was the most vague thing I experienced.

>>6788253
You need to re read it, then start a thread.
It IS really weird, but unless you reason it yourself, it's no fun.

I'm making steady progress in Axanael. It took a while to hook my interest, but now I'm liking it. Nowhere near essential, but very entertaining all the same.

After this I'll probably give Rakuen no Rukia a look.

Higurashi is way less popular thus it is way better!

Grow up.

>>6788284
>Higurashi
>less popular
In what world do you live?

Having only vague memories of Higurashi's anime, the borderline autistic fanbase for it in /a/ made me like it all the less. I went into Umineko thinking it'd be more of the same rubbish, but I actually grew to love it. I begrudgingly read Higurashi's visual novels over the space of a year, and I gained a new appreciation for the series. I don't love it as much as Umineko, but I can see why someone would prefer it. Its structure is more careful, as opposed to Umineko's convoluted mess. And Ryukishi obviously had a clearer idea about where he was going, resulting in a satisfying (if too happy) ending.

It's not as 'fun' as Umineko is, but people have different ideas of fun. I thought the twisted logic battles that Battler and Beato had were a blast, and found my skin crawling having to read through Mion's punishment games and the club plotting in Angel Mort. You might think differently, and that's cool with me.

Can't we all agree that both series have their bad, and good points?

>>6788303
You just reminded me why I prefer this board to /a/, thank you.

Started Vjedogonia, feels like a dark take on Kamen Rider, which is not a bad thing. It even follows the same structure with every episode replaying the OP, ED and ending with a fight.

And I'm not sure how that english text ended up there.

>>6788186
>If I have a complain it's that Aries feels a bit gimped even though she seems like the main heroine at first glance, she doesn't even have a good ending.
You liked the yandere over motherfucking Aqua?

>>6788408
I loved them all.
I just felt a little bad for Aries

Speaking of Himawari, I looked over the manga (could only find in chinese) and it's straight on Aries' route.
I can't even understand that choice, the readers who didn't play the game will end up so fucking mindfucked it's not funny.

Aries is so fucking scary.

Finally finished GosuDeli yesterday, and my first route in Futago Ecchi today.
Gosu Deli I liked, even if the language was very hard for me, which contributed to it taking forever and a day for me to finish. And as Agent Smith said at the end, that was kind of an unnecessarily convoluted plot.
I'll be picking up what I didn't get but want in Futago Ecchi with a guide, then a 100% plot, and I think I'll start on Ricotte next.

>>6788497
*100% patch

Greetings from /a/

I seem to remember there being a program to translate games (google translate style), is there or did I just make it up in hope of being able to play untranslated VNs?

Hey, OP, do you recommend reading Higurashi with or without the various patches?

>>6788567
Not OP, but go for it if you prefer the newer style. A lot of people seem to have gone with the newer sprites, but kept the original backgrounds. It's really up to you. But you should definitely use the music patches.

Finished Shikkoku no Sharnoth the other day. It was my first WAB series vn but it let me intrigued enough to check out the other games.

The latest parts and climax of the game were great, but some of the middle parts were a bit of a pain to get through with all the hard to read kanji, walls of copy pasted text and that fucking minigame. I'll probably check Inganock next.

>>6788550
AGTH + Translation Aggregator. I don't really reccomend it, though, unless you already have some knowledge of Japanese and you use it as a crutch.

>>6788588
Alright, thanks. I'll keep the Ryukishi sprites; I like his art style.

>>6788637
Oh well, guess I'm stuck waiting for translations just like everyone else who can't read moonrunes then. Gonna try it out though just to see if I can make any sense of it at all. Thanks for the help.

Finally playing the original Killer Queen after putting it to side for so long and always hearing that it's better than Secret Game. the original one had only two scenarios right? So far the first scenario isn't that different from SG in quality, but I guess the praise comes from the second scenario where I hear that Yuki is quite different from her SG self?

And dammit CODE:Revise cannot come soon enough due to those events at the end of the trial.

Is it worth buying the boxes for any eroge? Like G-Senjou? Extras and so on?

>>6789457
a lot of them tend to have first press limited editions and such that have cool extras, so if you can find any (will probably be expensive as fuck if you're not in japan), it'd be worth it I guess.

Just wondering what are the titles that you guys are looking foward to most? Lately I really haven't been following what's been hyped, so it would be nice to know what's worthy to look foward to. Would be nice if you could give also reason why you are looking foward to titles you mention

>>6790170
Aqua, trial was pretty good.
Nekonade Distortion, same and it seems to be Subahibi-lite.
Aiyoku no Eustia, trial was great.
Rewrite, it's Romeo and the trial was great as well.
New Eushully and new Alicesoft as well.

>>6790170
Vanitas no Hitsuji, Rewrite, Aiyoku no Eustia, Aqua and bloody rondo (not too sure about this one)

Just finished 999. It was pretty fucking awesome.

>>6789451
Hate to sound completely clueless, but, Source? Killer Queen screenshots don't seem to be the same game as your pic?

Good job /jp/, now autistic retards really start arguing that Nekoshit is better or even just as good as Higurashi. It's over, this board now has turned into /a/ mode for real.

>Apples and Oranges
Nope and you should kill yourself

>>6790393
C'mon, anon, take a look at the screenshot again.
The source was mentioned in the post too.

>>6790170
Promising games: Eustia, Kamigari, might check out Nekonade Distortion just for fun, might add Rewrite to that when I get around to play the trial.
Just personal preferences/guilty pleasures: Damatte watashi no muko ni nare looks as run of the mill as they get, but I like the heroines and that's enough to make me want to play a game.
Gokudo no Hanayome is pretty average, the action power-up clichè and bullet-cutting KATANAH are laughable, but I'm a sucker for criminal underground settings (main heroines are a kansaiben-speaking yamato nadeshiko and an italian Balalaika-lookalike mafiosa) so I'll probably play through it.

>>6790395
Not to mention there's a KS thread going on.

>>6790393
duh, it's Secret Game CODE:Revise, as it reads in the titlebar, seeing as it's the newest game of KQ series or is SG now days. Had not taken any good Killer Queen caps so put cap from newer one as I spoke of it too.

>>6790170
As for whats coming soon.
In march there is both SG CODE:Revise and Aiyoku no Eustia, which both had great promise. Both of them have pretty great production values in them and full voice acting (yes protag included). Eustia has great setting, characters and character interactions and very fitting BGMs and mood, overally it had really fantastic trial. As for SG C:R the trial was pretty nice, and then how the trial ended in a twist that pretty much quaranteed for awesomeness. Oh yeah, both mentioned also have some great protagonists that actually have brains in them, which is a big plus for me. I wonder how do I manage to read them at sametime as both are must reads for me after the trials.

In April there is Kamidori from Eushully if you like gameplay, it has some great art and dat mud. Other good releases altough I don't really look foward to them that much are Daiteitoku from Alicesoft and Rewrite for Key fans with added touch from Romeo and Ruykishi.

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Finished the first scenario of the original Killer Queen. It was pretty nice, can't remember much from the time I played Secret Game, but I got the feeling that it was around equal in goodness. Next up the second scenario which is the one most changes between the two releases I think.

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i just finished kirari's route in Kira☆Kira feels bad man

Hanahira, cute funny and easy

I...I know this is incredibly slowpoke, but goddamn man, bitch tears right here.

>>6794330
put a spoiler on that thing, idiot

>>6794330
better resolution

Just finished Symphonic Rain. This game really should be a lot more popular, it was excellent. Amusingly, I'm a pianist (pretty horrible one, but still) and the girl I'm dating has an identical twin sister too. This little coincidence made me like the game even more.

Just finished Symphonic Rain. This game really should be a lot more popular, it was excellent. Amusingly, I'm a pianist (pretty horrible one, but still) and the girl I'm dating has an identical twin sister too. This little coincidence made me like the game even more.

>>6794369
Maybe it's not a coincidence! Maybe it's you in your second life! If you kill yourself now, you can escape your current life of mediocrity, and be the guy in your awesome VN!

It's worth a shot, trust me.

I just finished reading both Ashita no Yukinojou 1 and 2.
It was wonderful, especially 2.
Why didn't I know about this before? It's the definite coming of age eroge.
Serina and Shouko were both amazing heroines.

>>6794369
>bestgirl.jpg

Da Capo Dream Xmas only for DAT ANZU.

>>6794393
>typical da crapo fan eating rehashed shit

>>6794377

No thanks, perfectly loving my mediocre existence.

>>6794384

Fuck yeah. Torta's ending comes close, though.

Started playing Littlewitch Romanesque again after taking a break from trying to get all the items and CGs. I really didn't like Olivia in the main game, but her ending made me like her 100x more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFQBq9Nx2F4

Damn it looks pretty good, another eroge for April

>>6794423
>voiced MC
I'm liking a lot this fashion, makes for a more enjoyable experience.

>>6794426
It seems like you can choose your protagonist to be male or female.
First time I see this in an eroge

>>6794434
Yeah, it's going to be a rpg.
Choose male protagonist and receive normal eroge scenes, choose female and get yuri.

I love to be the little girl in eroge so the choice will be obvious

>>6794434
Yeah, it kind of reminded me of Persona 3 for the PSP in some designs.
A both normal and otome seems interesting (unless it's yuri)

>>6794423
>another promising April release
whycantIholdalltheseeroge.jpg

>>6794423
>HEVEN OR HELL LET'S ROCK
So DAMN close.

I'd like to submit this to the thread. Ever17 had a pretty profound impact on me, spoilers mainly because nearly every ending was a bad ending, and even when you hit the catharsis of the CENTURY on the true end the previous endings were so rough it didn't matter

I still sniff and get teary eyed like a little bitch listening to this song. I just completed the transliteration, now you can be a godly weepy pianist.

http://www.virtualpiano.net/

dashes are sixteenth notes, play combo notes at same time.

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>>6794454
I can understand your passion for this beautiful song, but isn't that a huge waste of time?
Transcribing as well as learning to play, I mean.

>>6794454

huh, the forum doesn't like copying and pasting from notepad. Disregard the errors, the version is perfect on notepad.

>>6794467

I definitely thought about that while doing it since it took several hours, but I like it a lot and I want to share it so other people that enjoy Ever17 can play it too.

>>6794474
Just make a virtual piano thread, I've seen it before and they were quite popular. It's kinda off topic here.

>>6794451
That' remind me of Oresama no Ragnarock

Can't wait to be the little girl.
With this and Artemis Blue that will have a female protagonist too (and written by the author of Ashita no Yukinojou series meaning it will probably be great) 2011 is shaping up to be damn great.

Finishing up Sumaga, probably starting Umineko 8 next. Still need to finish Himawari, whenever I can get around to that.

Finished sekajyo and moving onto 初恋サクラメント, has anyone tried sangoku hime yet? Heard that it has decent gameplay.

>>6794832
Well, it's significantly better than Sengoku Hime 1 and 2, but to be fair it's still shit.

Still, at least they're trying new things. Maybe the one after this will actually be passable, and the one after that, good.

Ah finished Killer Queen. The second scenario was pretty awesome, best one from all of the KQ or SQ so far. Altough as whole overally I probably prefer them to be about equal, they both had ups and downs compared to each other. And boy Yuuki was different in KQ compared to SG, in awesome way. now to wait and see how CODE:Revise goes, it has potential to exceed both if they don't fuck it up in any significant way.

And more companies should do omakes with characters just randomly chit chatting about various stuff and evetns of game after the game.

>>6794832
if you are looking some newish gameplay eroges tough, you should check VenusBlood -Empire- If you haven't yet tried it. It was suprisingly good and has been received pretty well.

>>6794889
I can vouch for it.
Story is really surprisingly good, characters are great, gameplay is addicting, soundtrack is awesome, ero is hot.
Seriously one of the best eroge of 2010.

>>6794889
Finished it a while back on lawful route along with the main eushully and alicesoft games as well. Was a pretty good game alright, are the prequels worth trying though?

Finished Shinobu's route in Tenshi no Inai 12gatsu.

I'm ambivalent about the route itself, but that ending... ;__; I think I prefer it to Touko's.

>>6795032
This draw style looks great.

Just started Baldr Sky Dive 1. What should I expect? And how long is Himawari? Might take a look if it's short, not sure if the pacing can keep me hooked.

>>6795110
One of the best eroge experiences there is. It was so to me atleast. And do install Dive2 straight from the start if you haven't, it helps to avoid some complications later with skip function and lets you access full weapon tree.

Finished off three endings in Axanael, including the true end. Not sure if I care enough to read the other seven. Overall it was pretty much a let down. Silly and entertaining, but that's about it.

>>6795110
- Using shitty weapons all the time to level them up and unlock new equipment.
- Getting little pieces of information that you have to glue together by yourself to understand what's going on.
- Not understanding shit until you beat Dive2 and even then you probably won't understand shit.
- A lot of technobabble that you will have to to believe instead of real science.
- Epic story. Too farfetched for my tastes but a great story nonetheless.
- And I do hope you like incest. Japan loves incest.

>>6795169
I wouldn't say that Baldr Sky is that hard to understand. It does pretty clearly explain most of the major plotpoints, but yeah there is lot of subleness in the story and few plot points where you do have to rack your brain a little to understand. But it isn't that hard to understand the overall picture in the end. And I like how it leaves few plotpoints up to you how you interpret them.

Okay, let's say I want to get into the Ikusa Megami series.
Is there any recommended play order without having to read anything ultra old and still be enjoyable?

>>6796048
Start with Zero, if you want to see the background of a part of the cast of Verita play Genrin no Kishougun 2 (has a summary of Kishougun 1 in-game, also it's fire emblem-ish and not RPG), then Verita.
you can still play Verita without Kishogun just fine, but it's nice to see where the characters come from. Just try it and drop it if you see it's not your thing.

>>6796048
Chronical order of the BG-storyline is:
IM Zero > Genrin1 > Genrin2 > IM Verita > IM1 > IM2
It's good order to play (if you want to play them all). you can skip genrin1 or if you want to read it just read the summary in genrin2, it should be enough. You can play Verita without playing genrin2 too, but you miss some stuff with all the backgrounds. IM1 is just avarage and old as hell altough IM2 is pretty good I hear and still playable. But there are some rumors floating around of remake of IM1&2. By the time kamidori comes out or bit after it there probably will be more info on that.
And kamidori happens bit after Verita I think, but it won't be tied in any deep way to BG-storyline tough I think. I might see mentions of Veritas Events there and some cameos.

>>6795110
Himawari took me about 15 hours.
Though I'm a fast reader.
It's about 2mbs of text.

>>6796077
>>6796125
Thanks for your posts.
I had seen this kind of posts a few times but I can never remember to save them.
I think I'll start with zero as you suggested and probably skip the first genrin, the second is from 2004 and it isn't THAT old and since it has some summaries better for me.
And luckily I've found an /h code for zero just in case.
Thanks again for your fast answers.

>>6795120
>>6795169
>>6795236
>>6796146
Thank you. Just woke up to some shitty weather. Going to install Dive 2 now before I finish Rein's route.

I need some help to get the Yomogi Bad End in Remember11.

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上えええええ

Finished Vjedogonia. Didn't expect much but it was actually pretty nice, if only for Leanhaum's ending. Mora's route was fine too but I didn't like Kaori and Misako, especially Misako.

And if there are people here that are interested in the VN but are put off by the gameplay, just patch the game. It adds an option to skip all battles once you cleared one route. Just bear with it for one route or download a save if you really don't want any of it.

Anyone can tell me what exatly does every stat?
Some of them are a bit vague when I try to use them, or maybe some kind of wikia.

>>6800140
Attack power: tells the attack power of one attack
Attack rounds: how many "strikes" one attack action is
Defense power: tells how high your defense is in one defense
Defense rounds: tells how many times you defend against one enemy attack action
Magic attack
Magic Defense

so if your attack is 50 and att round 3: you deal 50x3 damage. if your defense is 25 rounds 2, you can defend agains 2 attacks with strenght of 25.
If that makes any sense.
examples
50 x3 att against defense of 25 x2 would deal 25+25+50 = 100 damage (because you dont have as meny def rounds as att round during attack you wont be able to defend against one attack at all)
again
again att of 100 x2 against def of 10 x4 would deal 90 + 90 = 190 damage (altough you have more of deff rounds than enemy has att rounds during attack, these addititional rounds dont get added to defense)

The stats you up just effect how much your actual stats rise and it shows how much they rise with+

>>6800191
The last two seems to be better vthan the rest since they spread more points, is there any reason?
Thanks for your answer by the way, I've just started but zero is pretty fun.

>>6800204
they spread the stats, but others rise some specific stat faster. theres also limit how much one stat can be risen. also rise the stat that increases hp well, you'll avoid certain small problem at the end game then.

But yeah enjoy the IM series, Zeros plot doesn't really start properly until you meet Haisherra at chapter2, after that it starts to spiral to greatness. Also if you don't know anything of the series enjoy your chapter3.