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Fuck yes Riot Kontrol

this is not hardcore this is gay

Engorging penises since 1984

I shat my pants listening to SBZ... ^_^

>>7877183
It's still in warmup. It'll start any minute now. Personally I have always loved Allkore Riotcontrol as well as OHR.

The best.

haters gonna hate. This rulezz.

reported for /a/ shit

yeh homo

>Technorch, BSK, Wildparty, Hirojack

Hooray!

>>7877228
Akiradeath in 6 hours!

>>7877211

YOU GOT ME MAD NOW

so, is the webchat the only way to join?
i tried connecting to it with my IRC client and its not connecting

Like the previous AllKores, I would love if you guys posted your sets in an easy way to download, where I can burn them all in sequential order and relive the time I spent in chat talking to people during the show and listening to the only type of music I actually can stand

It's hereee. Awesomeee! Anta baka?

>>7877265
I connecte with mIRC just fine

>>7877208
Kill yourself. Seriously. Even anison parties, which this isn't, are the height of true /jp/ culture.

>>7877287
sup speedycake

>>7877240

I never liked Akiradeath. They sound like Atari Teenage Riot but they somehow manage to come off even more childish. Maybe it's the Jin-Roh cosplay or the posing with airshit guns.

>>7877268

I will post a link afterwards with my recorded set plus tracklist, I'm sure some of the others will do the same :)

>>7877265
no
irc.lolibot.net/#allkore

where can i download previous ones now? and this one too since timezones
all i remember uploader being lazy and next time i checked ftp was no more

>>7877301
I won't argue with ATR nowadays being border ridiculous (I still like them, but I just can't watch their last video)
However I find that the childiness is less of an issue for Akiradeath as they don't really take themselve seriously. The costumes are purely for entertainment.

Also Akira Satou makes some pretty subtle music sometimes. Check out his other project, Custommummy, for Akiradeath without the screaming and hard kicks. It's pretty cool.

DJ SBZ MARRY ME!!!!! =D

>>7877324
>ATR nowadays

I forgot they got back together.

>>7877302

Much appreciated =3

>>people in IRC saying there will be no recordings or downloads of the sets, or setlists, or sets sold on CD at a later time

wtf is wrong with you people. you expect me to sit here at my computer all night tonight and tomorrow and listen to this without stopping? I need to be able to listen to this stuff in my truck, as I drive semi for a living

Allkore 4, oh shit yes.

>^_^
>:)
>=D
>=3

Stop that.

>>7877349

There will be recordings man, don't worry.

>>7877344

You are very welcome!

>>7877268
I'm also recording them all (though only in one file, and you'll have to cut them in sets afterward). I don't want to get my bandwidth raped though so I'll only post the link on IRC.

>>7877357

Does something stop you from just dumping it on megaupload?

>>7877361
we'd like it if you didn't rip and upload the sets but we can't really stop you

basically, we don't officially condone it but again, there's no way to stop you.

>>7877366

Why? It's not like it's your music to begin with if you're just DJing.

>>7877373

Most of the people on (at least half) are producers and are playing their own tracks :) That's why.

>>7877366

psh. I doubt Technorch will play anything I don't have a hard copy of, and if he does, I'll get it in a few months anyhow. I'm just after the mix itself.

>>7877373
Well that's the point. Some jp DJs have complained about that apparently.
(the fact that it's uploaded, not the fact that it's played)

>>7877361
no indeed. I'll do that later I guess

>>7877382

Again, who cares?

Are you expecting to make a profit off this stuff or get signed to a corporate label? Shouldn't you just be content knowing that people love your music enough to go out of their way to keep a personal recording of it to listen to over and over?

>>7877366
you forgot to say "geez! baka!!"

sometimes our sets will contain our own songs or unreleased copies of songs from our friends that are set for their own release

there has been an issue in the past of people ripping tracks from sets

but again, it's not like we can stop you. some of the DJs do offer their sets for download after the event is done but I myself cannot give you the master files

>>7877397

I didn't say this was my opinion man, I personally believe that if you play it you need to expect people to rip things. I'm all for sharing music so I don't agree but, it's not my event. I'm just playing :)

>mfw some kids beat matching mp3s and slamming the fader over think they're musicians

>>7877413
you'd be surprised to find that all of our performers are at least 20+ and some of them established musicians that do make a nice living off of their music but you're a troll so you probably don't care

if you want a bunch of children go play with doujinstyle :)

OHR was better though

Might as well again this time.

>>7877443
It's essentially the same event except without the bad hardstyle :)

Also I operated the server for OHR and share all the same connections to people so its not like its all the much different.

If you're not posting recordings, what about tracklists?

>>7877456
all upto the artists really, I don't require anyone to include setlists

I can provide some of them after the event on the website if the artist did include it with what they sent me.

>smileys everywhere
>tripfags never seen before
What the fuck is this, some kind of annual normalfag meetup?
Why this board? Why /jp/? It's pretty obvious none of post here regularly.

If I buy the CDs off of mydjsobad, how much of the money actually goes back to the DJs?

I want to support the people that do OHR and AllKore since I've been listening to this type of music forever and this group seems to be the only centralized group of people that make this style, but I don't want like 99 percent going to some rich corporate ruler.

I want to give some money to support these little events

>>7877453
Why did you drop hardstyle? :D

>>7877471
Perhaps the thread is linked in the IRC channels?

#neet here, #allkore bros, put on a good show

>>7877476
simple, very few people enjoyed it and shingodj is a hard person to deal with

consider it an abandoned ship for the most part as it is mostly absent from doujin music and japanese underground

>>7877471

they think because they play shitty gabber and lolicore with anime samples, they can spam 4chan when they do this shit.

truth be told they're all a bunch of last.fm and /mu/ hipsters

>>7877478
at allKore everything goes back to the artists, the only profits made are put right back into other productions and projects, nothing is pocketed

I'm not sure for other labels but breaking even is not very common with smaller labels, HARDCORE TANO*C and MOB SQUAD TOKYO do break even and make money.

>>7877500
please do not group us with lolicore, thats not even a real genre anyway

and for the record none of us make these threads, someone makes them and links us and people ask us questions so we reply, if anything blame each other

>>7877500
>/mu/ hipsters
Everytime you say this you look head-in-ass retarded. Just thought I'd let you know. Pretending/thinking /mu/ enjoys this kind of thing is even worse.

>>7877491
>> as it is mostly absent from doujin music and japanese underground
What about USAO :w

>>7877478

I wouldn't bother with mydjsobad. His selection isn't comprehensive and for the prices he charges you may as well just go through a proxy service and get your stuff directly from akibaoo, guhroovy or the labels themselves.

>>7877491
>it is mostly absent from doujin music and japanese underground

oh piss right off. Gensou hardsound compilations, Massive New Krew, USAO and others are awesome, and I'm always stumbling over new stuff. Though admittedly I never really appreciated Shingo DJ's music.

>>7877523

Listen to Hardcore Syndrome 5. He does dubstep now.

It's tragic.

Hardstyle is for faggots. USAO is a faggot. More news at 11.

>>7877539
Who cares about USAO being faggot. We just like his music.

>>7877525
Not sure if you've been following USAO's recent stuff but Gensou does the same tired thing shingo did and that was making the same tired touhou hardstyle arrangements. Sure if touhou is your thing thats great for you but some of us loathe touhou.

As someone thats been in the electronic music game for close to 17 years now, "japanese hardstyle" will never survive if it pigeonholes itself into video game arrangements.

>>7877561
Faggot.

>>7877513
I'm curious about what makes a real genre. I'd argue that as lolicore is identified as a music genre. They are people saying that they produce lolicore, and they are people saying that they listen to lolicore. Lolicore is indeed noise/breakcore/speedcore but most noise/breakcore/speedcore listeners would never listen to lolicore. It's pretty clear to me thus that "lolicore" is useful as a word and therefore should be considered a genre.

Though whether 100% of it is shit is another question.

>>7877566
Don't mind him, people just like to pretend that genres can't be created. It's either EDM or noise.

I guess I just don't understand how all the different artists are associated.

Do individual artists do individual songs and then they would get money from a label like Hardcore Tanoc or whatever to be put on the latest Hardcore Tanoc album, so the label itself pretty much becomes an album name?

I figured there would be one website where I could browse through all kinds of albums from all different doujincore groups that do music for AllKore and OHR but I guess I'm confused how music releasing works.

>>7877573
You call his newest works lolicore?!

lolicore has goreshit, so it isn't all bad.

>>7877566
The way I see it was a bunch of kids (yes some of them are kids I talk to one of them and hes literally like 14 years old) found styles of electronic music that weren't house/trance and couldn't find a name for it and decided since they discovered it through anime found it a good idea to call it "lolicore"

Funny story though it has its origins from the music DQN produced but misterCQNZR that operates the whole show HATES that term. I remember there was a torrent in /t/ with a DQN album and I posted anon saying "I FUCKING LOVE LOLICORE" and he messaged me on MSN almost having an aneurism

To address a few things that have been said:
The past two years these threads have been made without involvement from anyone who runs Allkore, and the overwhelming majority of the comments have been positive.
mydjsobad focuses on importing CDs en masse to sell and bringing artists over for events, so money spent there will benefit artists yes.
Money spent on Allkore items will go straight back into Allkore to fund future CD ventures and other projects.
Think what you want about the music, people here have seemed to enjoy it before so I figured they would again.

>>7877581
Well I guess my favorite albums of his are the least lolicore, so take that however you will.

>>7877569
For the most part money will go to the label owner, which usually then goes back into producing more CDs. mydjsobad.com is probably the most comprehensive english-language shop, and guhroovy.com is the main japanese one. As far as downloads go, there are a lot of blogs and other sites that should be easy to find.

As far as the whole lolicore argument goes, they way I see it is it's a word that has a use but is misused far more often than it's used correctly; basically I wouldn't consider an artist to be "lolicore" unless they said it OF THEMSELF (and I don't believe we have anyone like that on our lineup). That's just my opinion though.

I think the only person affiliated with allkore that people think is "lolicore" is clonepa due to his involvement with DQN CDs

but I don't even know what genre to call clonepa other than symphonic

>>7877555
>Sure if touhou is your thing thats great for you but some of us loathe touhou.

You seem not to be aware of your surroundings.

Yes, Gensou Hardstyle is Touhou through and through, but much like the rest of J-Core, most of the artists are just riding ZUN's coattails on the side and using it to pay the bills and have a healthy output of original music. I've heard plenty of good non-remix hardstyle from Japanese artists.

>>7877569

Hardocre Tano*C is just a group of artists who perform in events and appear on compilations together and sometimes remix each others tracks. Most of them manage their own independent minilabels; the only persistent member is REDALiCE. Maybe Betwixt and Between now, too.

>>7877585
You should know better than that. Lolicore is a legitimate genre. Our LOLI RIPE who art in heaven. Hallowed be his name. Some faggots just desire to be associated with anything related to loli (xD) and it made people vomit the label everywhere.

>>7877614
lol I cannot decide if this is irony

>>7877585

it's funny you're shitting all over lolicore yet allkore has lots of ties to it. i can name many cds you guys have put out that feature all the trollish lolicore artists like goreshit and loligirl

tbh, i don't think even those who make lolicore take it as a serious concept, unlike yourself

>>7877614
LOLI RIPE was a pretty hilarious producer as much as I loathe the term, at the time when I first came across his stuff was when I was operating /b/radio years ago and dropping in a LOLI RIPE track was comedy gold earrape

What I like about allkore is that it reminds me so much about 4chan pre-2005.

as a side note, Nokore Riot Kontrol where

>>7877622
hey I don't do the tracklists for the CDs, thats Ian's call, I just do the artwork and technical details

>>7877622

>i can name many cds you guys have put out that feature all the trollish lolicore artists like goreshit and loligirl

ok do it

>>7877631
go bug barry until he gets the motivation to do it

>>OHR is dead

I seriously don't understand how different people making music with 4/4 beats and samples of different sounds and music clips could hate each other.

Just because one group uses clips from mainstream music and videogames and the other from anime and touhou

I wish everyone would just together and realize they're all serving a very small niche market and be awesome to each other and pool their resources to make great events and CDs

I figured when I was in the chat listening to Allkore that its the same guys that did OHR

>>7877617
There's a difference between enjoying media and trying to be part of a scene. You probably only try to do the latter, which is why you can't tell.

>>7877638
how do I do that

>>7877604
Gensou Hardsound CD's are only 500yen.
Kinzok On is nothing like Shingo (who actually did get a bit of popularity).
Speedycake is just venting his touhou rage.
Basically, you could make a completely original track but call it a touhou arrangement and speedycake will jump on his bandwagon to hate it.

>>7877644
I'm pretty sure enjoying media is the important part of it?

>>7877643
I think if you observe closely OHR and ARK share a lot of the same talent

It's not a factor of hatred towards each other but more that Shingo has pissed off a lot of people, key important people like M-Project. If Shingo ever wanted to do another OHR, I'd support him but hes not a very competent organizer these days. Even outside of this immediate scene I have or had mutual friends that Shingo burned the bridge to by being intolerable. OHR is dead until Shingo decides to bring it back and try to rebuild his friendships.

>>7877650
thats an interesting opinion you have about me, but I've said the same thing many times before like when the doujin scene was busy churning out unsiftable amounts of key arrangements (and I like key stuff).

>>7877663
That was the indirect point.

>>7877650

I like some Toohoo remixes, discerningly, but I can understand anyone throwing their hands up and dumping all over the entire trend when certain artists have nearly entire labels dedicated to remixing ZUN's entire discography namely REDALiCE, and worse still 75% of his remixes all sound the same.

>>7877641

>http://allkore.com/nokore/index.html

a sublabel is still your label

>>7877690
>i can name many cds
>NKCD0000
>pre-order
Good job, sport!

>>7877673

Hey speedycake I'll just respond here. I didn't realize Shingo pissed off M-Project, exactly what did he do to be such an insufferable twat?

What's your opinion on artists like USAO and M1dy. I like them because they are a little more diverse than a lot of the lineup but am quite pleased by the inclusion of dj technorch.

Also I'm getting tired of redalice and touhou arranges in general, also just putting that out there.

>>7877690
considering Barry is given COMPLETE creative freedom over his project hes barely associated with us, but ok whatever you say =3=. I haven't done a single thing for NoKore so its all good.

my memory is fuzzy but I think having him sublabel to us was so he could appear bigger and contacting artists for tracks would be easier, but I might be wrong on that so don't quote me on it

>>7877690
no it's not i have NOTHING to do with nokore aside from the name i really dislike the majority of its output and honestly regret allowing him/them the exposure of a tangential relationship to us
tl;dr nokore sucks i agree don't lump it with us

>>7877711
also is there a preferred medium to bug barry for encouraging him to organize an online event?

>>7877722
Their Volume 2 compilation had awesome tracks! Also the CDR CD is one of the best thing CDR has done (well pretty much all his other stuff is the same song 1000+ times but yeah)

>>7877710
Cancel OHR when M-Project already prepared to play and everything, virtual gig or not thats not something you do to your MAIN headliner.

USAO is interesting, a bit misguided but hes plenty talented I just wouldn't agree with his path hes taking genre wise. m1dy number one japanese speedcore motherfucker hell yeah. Technorch's inclusion is exciting as hes probably one of the most unique and greatest talents on board.

REDALiCE is a great producer but it is in my opinion that touhou arrangements hold him back. I absolutely love his tracks on Hardcore Syndrome and other various labels. Touhou arrangements were interesting the first 2 rounds of large comiket releases but afterwards it just got very bland. I've hemorrhaged over 60 CDs of touhou music out of my collection since I truly do not enjoy it anymore.

>>7877725
not doing it

>>7877739
fair enough but the output is so different and of such a lower level of professionalism than us that it's honestly embarrassing to be associated

>>7877753

tbh you guys are just a bunch of CHAOS*LOUNGE wannabes

you're not pros either.

>>7877768
x label is just a wannabe y label

welcome to the age old label argument

>>7877753
I'd argue ugly covers and shitty titles are pretty much inherent in breakcore. Is that what you're calling "lower level of professionalism"? Or is it about the music?

>>7877793
It's not necessarily the designs, but the covers are printed very low-resolution, and the way PR is handled is really lazy.

>>7877804

That sounds about right for a breakcore CD.

>>7877813
Fair enough, it's not reason to call Allkore hypocrites though

anyway there doesn't need to be all this conflict we're just trying to stream some music for people to enjoy

>>7877835
All the conflict is just because this is 4chan, don't mind that.

>>7877804

Sorry for being very out of the loop, I tend to just listen to music but not get involved in the drama but I'm getting curious. So I gather you have to do with the operation of Allkore Ian? Has Nokore been dropped completely?

>>7877555
How involved in the game are you speedycake? Also are you the sysop of lolibot?

>>7877793
I would say you don't know shit about breakcore mate. Listen to Drumcorps, venetian snares, Acrnym, ect.

>>7877858
Yeah I run Allkore, speedycake handles design and radio organization.
I'm not like disowning Nokore or anything just saying that people shouldn't consider it part of the same entity as Allkore.

>>7877858
I run the server, DJ, do the art proofs for allkore stuff. allKore is more like a collective of friends though than some company

>>7877858
It wasn't an observation about the music, it was about the culture.

Holy shit this set has killed so far, I hope he keeps it up.

>>7877858
>Drumcorps, venetian snares

I don't know what kind of alternate reality you live in where people haven't heard of Drumcorps and Venetian Snares, and being the modern ambassadors of the genre it's pretty much expected they'll be slightly ahead of the sloppy production and logistics of everyone else. They're really the exception.

While I'm in this thread the bot mentioned annihlvs and leech. This surprises me, do you guys actually listen to power electronics?

Not that I can post in irc but with good reason.

>>7877923
I have a merzbox if thats any clear indicator

>>7877906

Modem, Fanny, Knifehandchop, etc. Breakcore has the potential to be good but often isn't like every other genre... what is your point?

>>Melancholia's set so far

>>7877931
Breakcore often has an offensive, provocative culture. Offensive and/or absurd song titles and ugly covers are frequently used as an expression of this culture.

>>7877931

That the standard of professionalism you're attributing to Venetian Snares isn't the norm for a breakcore artist and most don't think much of shipping out sloppy DIY releases and pisstakes, and it isn't really worth getting bent out of shape or surprised at.

>>7877927
Oh god do want

>>7877942
agreed

>>7877927

Speedycake y u ignore me on irc ;_; seriously though you're probably busy what with the event on. Anyway I have the limited gospels of the gash which is why it caught my attention.

>>7877923
>leech

That wasn't a name I expected in this thread. Jesus, what is it about NTT that draws weeaboos and breakcore kids out of the woodwork?

>>7877972

You're complaining about weeaboos in a thread about j-core music? on a board called Otaku Culture. OK.

200 dicks this set

>>7878012

That wasn't really meant that derisively. And really, it baffles me.

>>7878036

I don't know, I found leech digging through venetian snares discography on a really obsucre cd.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Bitmapping/release/232310

Okay I laughed a bit

>>Meloncholia's set

SOMEONE BETTER BE RECORDING THIS LIDDLE GURL

FUCK YES HELBLINDE <2222

>>7878100
Kill yourself.

>>7878061

Huh. I knew Mr. Funk was in with that crowd a long time ago but I had no idea NTT turned up on a vsnares CD alongside a dozen other PE artists. That blindsides me.

I can't believe theres still another few hours of music and then even more tomorrow night.

It sucks when I have to piss since I don't get to listen.

>>7878302

Piss on the floor, problem solved. I wish I could get up to make some tea.