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9640067 No.9640067[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I got hooked to Touhou from it's fandom, but I find the game itself is more interesting than the fan creation itself. So I'm going to ask ahead here, which one are you guys? Do you the one who prefer to spend your time with the fans' creations or with the game itself? Also, don't forget to state your reason. ;)

>> No.9640077

Careful. This guy will drug you and take your organs. Don't trust people that use ";" (:

>> No.9640076

I'm in the middle of reading Symposium of Post-Mysticism. So... somewhere in between?

>> No.9640089

>>9640077
Thanks Derek!

>> No.9640088

>>9640067
I like fan creations, dont't play any Touhou games. They sucks.

>> No.9640092

>>9640077
Thanks Derek!

>> No.9640148

>>9640088
A wild secondary appears!

>> No.9640174

>>9640088
Don't listen to this faggot. He likely can't even beat Easy mode, and that's likely the only reason he hates it. Primary for life here, and the official games are really great. You just have to have patience while playing them, or you'll end up like >>9640088.

>> No.9640194

>>9640174
>>9640148
Calm down gamefaggot.

>> No.9640197

>>9640194
XD

>> No.9640209

>>9640174
>can't beat Easy mode
This is only excusable on SA.

>> No.9640211

>>9640209
What about MoF? I heard Kanako's last spell is for some reason harder on Easy than Lunatic!

>> No.9640245

Sorry if I'm not clear yet, I just notice a mistakes in my original post. I meant to say "do you prefer to spend your time with the fans' creations or the original game itself?".

>>9640077

Thanks. :)

>> No.9640255

>>9640211
The hardest part of MoF in Easy is indeed Mountain of Faith. But you should have tons of lives when you get there so it's not really a problem in the end.

>> No.9640268

>>9640245
Well, I like the original games but since it's a shmup, you can't exactly spend a lot of time in it unless you're training for Extra, Hard, or Lunatic so in the end, I spend more time with the fan creations.

Man, I wish Touhou 13.5 would be an RPG. ZUN could write the dialogue and the story.

>> No.9640307

>>9640268

Though it may be interesting, since RPGs mostly have leveling system, ZUN is very unlikely going to do so I supppose.

>> No.9640332

MoF is a pretty good game, but I started with Imperishable Night and I liked it a lot. The fight with Kanako lasts like 10-15 min, its pretty damn hard.

>> No.9640342

>>9640307
How about a hybrid of RPG and shmups? Kinda like Bullet Heaven.

But really, I just want a long Touhou game with meaningful dialogues and a good plot. But that goes against what Touhou is, isn't it?

>> No.9640360

i like fan creation if they close to canon/doesn't have any lesbian-thing/interesting interpretation/not some moe-shit.
for the official work, i like the games & official print works, except for the manga.

>> No.9640419

>>9640067
i only watch the animes

>> No.9640468

I can clear Lunatic difficulty in the games but I very much enjoy fanworks too. I can't say if I prefer to spend more time with one or the other, it just depends on if I feel like gaming or not.

>> No.9640537

>>9640468
How could you clear Lunatic? Really, as an Easy Modo fag, this really bothers me.

>> No.9640557
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9640557

Shmups are horrible, see you at IAMP

>> No.9640581

>>9640557
Until this day, I still don't know how to use spellcards in the fighting games.

>> No.9640588

>>9640537
Just practise for a really long time. I went straight for Lunatic, it took me past half a year.

>> No.9640607

Sure this is a shitty troll attempt thread but I really don't see a reason why you can't enjoy the games AND the fandom.
It's just important that you realize that the fandom isn't to be taken serious

>> No.9640602

>>9640588
Now that's what I call a true Touhou fan, able to play Touhou over and over again for half a year.

>> No.9640617

>>9640537
Most of it is natural talent. Very few players can become good at these games over night, but the few that can are some gifted bastards.

>> No.9640622

>>9640617
When I started out I couldn't even clear easy. I still consider myself a shitty player. It certainly wasn't easy and took its fair time. If I could do it, everyone can.

>> No.9640629

>>9640622
Yeah, you just need dedication; something that I lack at Touhou games.

>> No.9640668

>>9640537

Not him, but I'm about ready to start beating some of the games on Lunatic (currently working on a Hard 1cc of UFO, which is the only game I don't already have a Hard 1cc on). I started off with EoSD and never seriously tried Easy Mode at all, going straight for Normal. Five and a half months after getting it, I got my first 1cc.

Within around the next two months, I had 1cc of all the integer Windows games (skipping PoFV since I don't care for it) on Normal, some of them on Hard, and I had cleared all the Extra Stages.

It just takes practice and time. And fuckloads of patience.

>> No.9640674

>>9640629
If you don't have the dedication to play then your want to be a better player isn't strong enough. The most important part is to have fun. If you continue challenging yourself with increasingly difficult tasks, be it Easy, Hard or Ultra, you'll eventually get better before you notice it. Don't try to force your way through something far out of your league, like I did. I can't count the bitchfits I had and calling it a difficulty wall would be an understatement.

>> No.9640675

>>9640668

>Five and a half months after getting it

I mean five and a half months after downloading it.

>> No.9640684

>>9640668
yo bigtext

>> No.9640691

I wish somebody would make a livestream of Touhou where the guy who's playing it never played the game before. He would not stop playing until he clears Lunatic with 1CC.

Wonder how long would it take? 12 hours? 18 hours? Or even a whole day non-stop of playing Touhou?

>> No.9640698

>>9640691
160:51:07 for me.

>> No.9640705

>>9640698
Then the guy would die of exhaustion first before he can finish it.

But really, how did you count that? You put a timer when you play or something?

>> No.9640710

>>9640691

Unless it was someone with a good amount of experience playing other shooting games, it would probably not happen at all. It takes most people over a month to get a 1cc on Normal. Playing too long at a time makes you get frustrated, making you play worse, and yeah. The person playing would probably pass out before 1cc'ing Lunatic.

>> No.9640721

>>9640705
The result screen counts your playtime with all different shot types.

>> No.9640730

>>9640721
Really? I've never noticed that.

>> No.9640728

>>9640710
Well, the difficulty level should be Normal then. It should be doable.

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9640748

>>9640730
It's pretty hard to miss.

>> No.9640760

>>9640748
>Times Used = 8541
Pretty sure I don't even reach 100.

Feels bad, man.

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9640773

>>9640760
Only one way to fix that.

>> No.9640902

I enjoy the games more than fan creations. I started with EoSD normal beginning of this year. I have cleared Lunatic on several games and perfected 4 Extras.
Goes to show how far practice takes you. Even someone like me, who had no experience whatsoever in shmups can clear Lunatic, I'm sure anyone can with practice.

>> No.9640914

>>9640902
Natural talent-chan, do you usually do full runs, or practice mode?

And do you copy superplays each time before playing?

>> No.9640928

>>9640914
Not him, but this guy >>9640468 here. Practice mode was my main mode of training. You get to practise the parts you're not good at instead of wasting hours upon hours of playtime getting there each time. Once I have a good enough grasp of all six stages I just try to chain it together.

If I find a part problematic, or if I think I could squeeze some more resources out of it but can't quite figure out how is when I watch replays. I can't bother to download and watch through them otherwise. Of course, it is a very big help to clearing games to watch replays as much as possible.

>> No.9640935

Started with the games, moved on to fanworks later. Fanmade doujinshi, games, music, anime, etc are all more fun, so I prefer that. The official games, on the other hand, are not fun and only frustrating, but feel rewarding when you score high, and that's really the only reason to play them. If you don't play them like a filthy fucking casual, they will not be fun, and aren't supposed to be. Any decent player that goes for more than shitty, half assed 1cc's can confirm this. I spend about a few hours per day playing the official games (not as much as I used to), but I largely find fanmade content more entertaining. But dialogue written by ZUN is hilarious, so that's worth a read through, too. Great thread, OP xD.

>> No.9640950

>>9640935
>fun, so I prefer that
>xD
get a load of this faggot.

>> No.9640958

>>9640607


I apologize if you see this thread as a troll attempt thread. I never asked you to answer which one would we enjoy, because it's obvious that people can enjoy both of fandom & game. I asked which one do you prefer more to spend your time on.

Also, thanks for telling me the fandom isn't to be taken serious, but I already took the fandom as a pleasure, another enjoyment. :)

>> No.9640960

Once you have played a few of ZUN's own bullet hell games, you have played them all. They are not different enough to top the fan made content, though still enjoyable.

>> No.9640965

>>9640958
>I apologize if you see this thread as a troll attempt thread
>:)

>> No.9641041

I don't play the games much anymore. I still like the official universe stuff and music arranges.

>> No.9641046

>>9641041
And posting about which 2hu I'd fuk of course.

>> No.9641060

>I got hooked to Touhou from it's fandom
>;)

You're gonna want to leave

>> No.9641075

I still couldn't 1CC any of them original danmaku games. I just play them to spend time and mostly just doing random dodging which I find really fun to do in every shmup games.

Just a casual guy enjoying being in the fandom... So much fanart to appreciate, doujins to read and arrangements to listen it's an awesome thing.

>> No.9641079

me too man the games suck xD

>> No.9641096

There are games? Wow. Porn with plot.

>> No.9641104

;) <3s ya jp xoxoxoxox

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