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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.39755900
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>> No.39755909

>>39755900
*punches her in the face*

>> No.39756124

I want games with nude sprites, does vndb have that tag?

>> No.39756164

>>39756124
It was more effort making this post than it would be to check.

>> No.39756189
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best girl

>> No.39756558

>>39756189
I'll never forgive SCAT-shit for robbing us of a Ruriwo grooming route. Fuck you.

>> No.39756767

>>39756189
she looks like chika from kaguya here

>> No.39756824

>>39756164

Yeah I'm retarded, I didn't find it before.

I'm looking for a game where the protagonist gets to live with multiple girls, they were all naked iirc. It wasn't loli.

>> No.39757227

>>39756558
Sca-ji already said that the students are gonna have their own routes in the next game.

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>>39754502
Honestly feel its the other way around; it was a purely physical problem, not mental. The MC is a such a blank slate, even more than usual due to the amount of PoV shifts and what not for the heroine, the game constantly switching to her thoughts (voiced).

Yeah the guy did dropout of school because of his succubus induced ED that affected his first attempt at sex, but is that what this healing is referring. The game is certainly not long enough to flesh him out as it heavily focuses on the heroine.

Going by past releases I suspect we'll see Yuuri to Marin around September-October.

>> No.39757371

>>39757229
Healing the unlucky part.

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I hate the chibi art in this game so fucking much

>> No.39758311

>>39757229
I can't take her seriously when she looks so much like Riamu from Im@s.

>> No.39759063

>>39756189
me in the back looking the other way pretending not to notice

>> No.39759577

>>39758311
Yeah, now that you mention it they do look incredibly similar. Very similar blue/pink hair, fang, etc. Only thing really different is Mami's got twintails, if you can really call it that as they are only shoulder length.

>> No.39759714

>>39710839
Dr. West carries the first half or so of Demonbane so hard. I love that motherfucker (no homo because).

>> No.39759768

>>39758173
What's wrong with it?

>> No.39759772

>>39755626
Des is so cute.

>> No.39759871

>>39759772
Cant believe Yukimitsu almost raped Des in her first h-scene.

>> No.39760261

>>39757227
That's not confirmed. He just said he might consider fandisc after toki.

>> No.39760319

>>39757227
Why the fuck should I wait for the next game after a decade to fuck these whores who can't stop being horny for MC. Like their character totally boil down to screaming "DID YOU KNOW I TOUCHED HIS ASS? I WANNA WATCH NAOYA COOM. HE'S SO HOT" in every scene they aren't infodumping.

>> No.39760409

>そういう事なんですよ。実際に刻で入れられなかったテキストが相当数(普通にゲームの半分以上)あるので、サクラノシリーズは続かざる得ないのです。

普通のエロゲとして必要なエロシーンのための続編的な。櫻子とかそういうキャラのイチャラブ的な。それ。的なあれ。です。
>>39760319
Just wait a little more, bro.

>> No.39760439

I ain't feeling it bros. Toki's Ch2 trial is meh.

>> No.39760583

>>39760409
Half of that shit is written by nijima lol

>> No.39760671

>>39760439
This chapter's like
>MC-kun, please have my babies
>MC-kun, please let me grope you
>MC-kun, please let me watch you jerk off
>MC-kun, you're always surrounded by bishoujo I'm jealous
>MC-kun, why are you always surrounded by geniuses
>MC-kun, you're so cool. What will you do this time.
>MC-kun, do you remember what you did in sakuuta. You're such a badass.
>MC-kun, your father is such a badass
Holy shit it's like all noaya dicksucking from uta condensing into one chapter but with noaya doing absolutely nothing this time. As usual sca-jizz SoL scenes are garbage(sakurako caught kusanagi-sama with his onaho! Le funny eroge hijinks ensue! ) and all those art hoes are spectacularly boring with not much personality outside of lusting after noaya.
At least we got kei and naoya's brief flashback, because that entire chapter in uta fell apart for me because their relationship was underdeveloped and kei was just a comic relief "lol you homo" character until that point. Good to know Sca-ji's just being sca-ji with his atrocious writing skills even after all these years.

>> No.39760708

>>39760671
>>MC-kun, your father is such a badass
literally NTR. dropped.

>> No.39760837

>>39760708
Don't worry sca-ji killed him for a reason

>> No.39761178

>>39760671
fuck you scaji
ch1 was apparently a trojan horse
now i feel bamboozled

>> No.39761282

>>39760671
man what the fuck do people see in scaji, i really don't get it. clearly he's doing something right since he makes some of the most popular eroge of all time.

>> No.39761326

>>39761282
I don't know about nips but a lot of western JOPs love him because he talks about philosophy and art stuff, and make them do Google searching. They don't really care about his writing quality. They just want sca-ji to infodump cool shit. He makes them feel smart.

>> No.39761332

>>39761326
>tfw to intelligent to read scaji

>> No.39761420

>>39761282
He suddenly got elevated to the level of Jesus Christ after subahibi which allegedly changed many people's lives.

>> No.39763187

You know all them android x human VNs. Well now there's a game where you are the android for a girl.

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>>39759768
They look like weird bugs

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>>39763584

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I wonder how it will compare to Amakano. I really like spats girl's suspenders sprite.

>> No.39765288

>>39761282
I was going to write a huge rant but the truth of the matter is that he goes the extra mile despite being a mediocre moe writer.
His shimoneta shtick got really old all the way back during the Tsui no Sora days. But eroge players don't play eroge for the moe, if that were the case they'd just go somewhere else. There's enough competently made moe trash out there to last you a lifetime already, not to say anything about the social experience.
No, see. Eroge players play long-winded eroge for interesting scenarios that put in that little extra effort. It's always been like that.
Even when ToHeart 2 was at the height of its popularity, and even nowadays when Yuzusoft vids get millions of views on YT, that alone hasn't changed.
Reading eroge is like watching porn for the story, but unironically. If by divine providence you're actually allowed to go outside the mold and say whatever the fuck it is, so long it makes sense, people will love it. Or, at the very least, the boomer type, EGS review-typing type will. Everyone knows zoomers don't read.

>> No.39765502

Sorry guys, but i don't think sakutoki is gonna beat henpri art philosophy.

>> No.39765530

>>39765288
>Reading eroge is like watching porn for the story, but unironically.
I wish more people understood that.

>> No.39765819

So you telling me erogaymers have extremely low standards and are easily impressed

>> No.39765925

>>39765288
He's not a mediocre moe writer. He's just a terrible writer in general, but with ambitious ideas floating in his head. It's just that his worst tendencies get amplified in sakurano series because he's not dealing with schizo denpa shit.

>> No.39765963

>>39765925
He's not a terrible writer. His ideas make sense and he communicates them as clearly as humanly possible.
His character writing and prose are just terrible. Instead of pretending I can at least appreciate how he goes for his own peculiar taste of shit, but the facts hardly change regardless of nuance.

>> No.39765992

>>39765963
His ideas might make sense but his execution lacks any impact for me(especially in sakuuta) because of his godawful writing skills. Storytelling is more than just ideas on paper, otherwise you can just tweet that shit instead of constructing a garbage story out of it. I might as well read wikipedia summary if I just want to Jerk off to ideas.

>> No.39766017

>>39765288
>Eroge players play long-winded eroge for interesting scenarios that put in that little extra effort.
they dont otherwise 99% of eroge wouldnt be so templated using the exact same structure

>> No.39766024

You guys were talking about how sca-ji shoehorns sex jokes a lot. While reading the trial I realized that he doesn't just shoehorn sex jokes but structures entire scenes around cheap shimoneta.
>Scene1: Some girl confessing to noaya and him turning her down. Wow what a chad!
>Scene2: His coworker playfully commenting about how he's so popular among school girls. What a chad!
>Scene3: Art club girls reminiscing about that time they touched his abs and ass and shit, and how badly they want to fuck him now
>Scene4: they enter the club room and haul themselves over naoya rubbing their tits and teasing him, before deciding that their agenda this time is, wait for it, attracting new club members.
>scene5: some infodumping about printing techniques.
>scene6: one of his students, who is head over heels for him, goes to where he lives early in the morning and finds him fiddling with his onahole, awawawa, and spergs out about how she also masturbates to him and she got horny that time watching him masturbate in the toilet.
>scene7: she is now forced to explain such wacky extenuating circumstances to other girls, and they all now want to go to naoya's house to catch a glimpse of him jerking off or doing something sexual.
>scene8: some more infodumping
>scene9: The next morning all them girls go to his sensei's house to watch him mastu... I mean help him
>some more infodumping
>some more shit about girls conspiring to enter into his pants
So much for the hype about how toki will be totally different from your average eroge and this shit is like some kind of parody of what outside people usually think eroge are like. Even bottom of the barrel moege puts more effort. I wouldn't mind this shit if not for the fact that he's wasting time and not conceiving meaningful interactions to add to themes and characterization.

>> No.39766064

>>39766024
If it makes you feel better I dont think Naoya will be a big focus in Toki so it should be all uphill from chapter 3 on

>> No.39766065

>>39766024
Yep, kamige writing.

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>>39765992
What IS fiction, if not the expression of ideas through characters and events?
I'm going to make a really stupid comparison, but no one reads shit like Gravity's Rainbow or Infinite Jest because they have good, immediately relatable and emotionally engrossing character writing, either. It helps, as so does visually clear and emotionally tangible prose, but that's all secondary.
Two types of fiction writers exist, and at least the life-changing chink knows enough about himself to know where he stands. Or I wish he did, because then he would realize no one played SakuUta for the common route.
>>39766017
Moege bugmen aren't human

>> No.39766091

>>39766064
I don't know bro. My biggest problem with sakura no uta was that he wasted time dicking around instead of constructing required build up for those supposed "kino" moments. Ch1 was pretty decent but then this shit happened.

>> No.39766106

>>39766024
The one thing I appreciate about this is the symbiosis. It's clear he wouldn't write anything else if he didn't have a boner fueling his writing attempts. He relies on the shimoneta as a way to get going.
It's not good, but it's unique. Criticizing writing is easy, but imagine actually writing moe for a living. I'd give up and just make sex joke after sex joke, too.

>> No.39766124

>>39766072
>What IS fiction, if not the expression of ideas through characters and events?
When did I say otherwise? That's what I meant by execution. I mostly care about how the ideas are expressed competently rather than ideas themselves because almost all the time they aren't anything special. Ideas are cold, and with proper execution of them with whatever storytelling devices or techniques you turn them hot so that they can impart passion in the reader.

>because they have good, immediately relatable and emotionally engrossing character writing, either.
I don't think I've ever said anything this shit.

>> No.39766132

>>39766091
Chapter 1 was obviously written later in development, I remember scaji saying that the first scene in SakuToki was supposed to be that scene with Kana at the beginning of Chapter 2, so he probably restructured the game quite a bit.

>> No.39766149

Do you guys like gonna properly re-read ch1-2 in release version or just skim?

>> No.39766155

>>39766149
No matter what, it won't be the same as reading it for the first time.

>> No.39766159

>>39766155
I know, i just never read trials so i don't know how it's supposed to be, especially when you get two chapters in advance.

>> No.39766162

>>39766155
How can you say this? Nabokov once said that you've never really read a book until you've reread it.

>> No.39766169

>>39766124
Some ideas are inexpressible without at least relying on the vagueness of storytelling. That includes everything the life-affirming philosophy reader actually attempts to impart through his writings.
It also applies to the two novels I mentioned. The whole writers, even.
Come on, didn't you read Witty like SubaHibi told you to after changing your life?
>>39766162
Those thoughts aren't mutually exclusive.

>> No.39766209

Seeing the shitstorm here, I can see that Sca-di is really good at living rent free in people's minds.

>> No.39766212

>>39766169
>>39766106
This fucking sca-nigga lmao

>> No.39766317

Hentai Prison - Filled with shimoneta = Good
Sakutoki - Filled with shimoneta = Bad

>> No.39766337

>>39766212
In my defense I'm way more interested in that new game releasing under the CRAFTWORK label.
https://zonsters.booth.pm/items/3205091
That was by the scenario writer working on that and it was pretty nice.

>> No.39766343

>>39766317
i think they're both shit desu

>> No.39766355

>>39766317
reading the "shimoneta bad" replies, it sounds less like the shimoneta is the problem and more that Gary Stuism is a problem

>> No.39766389

>>39766169
What?
>Come on, didn't you read Witty like SubaHibi told you to after changing your life?
No.
I already knew about him because post linguistic turn humanities/social sciences talk about him now and then, and I have my issues with Sca-ji's reading of him, and I think wittgenstein's only worthwhile work is philosophical investigations. I think the problem lies in how we both use fiction for different purposes, you basically just want writers to introduce you to cool ideas, but for me nothing that comes out of any eroge writer's brain is insightful so I just want decent storytelling/experience. That's why for me Sca-ji's penchant for dumb sex jokes, his lack of talent in writing good characters or interactions or relationship or prose or even so much as bare minimum build up to important events totally poisoned my experience. I'm not saying this is the only way to tell a story. It's just that this is important for whatever sca-ji was trying to do in sakuuta to work out for me.

>> No.39766395

>>39766355
Why complain about Gary Stuism in a story about fucking geniuses is beyond me.

>> No.39766413

>>39766317
I don't think the problem is just a couple of sex jokes here.

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bugbug sales (page 22/195)

>> No.39766558

>>39766389
SCA-Ji never really goes into depth about Wittgenstein's actual philosophy (which is clearly well beyond him, though I agree he should re-read PI), just his life. That was meant to be a joke based on the fact
I do like the exploration of cool ideas, but inherently all fiction, at least to me, is a close exploration of a certain topic as filtered through a purely unique soul (the writer's). These idiosyncrasies bleed everywhere human hands touch, from pornography and 4chan shitposts to high art (also functionally, and oftentimes literally shitposts), and it's in these that I'm interested in. No matter how well-written fiction is it'll be nothing but fiction, after all, and while the language and mind games are engrossing and inherently entertaining to me they're nothing more than an excuse for having a deeply interpersonal talk. That can be of anything from sexy little girl-childs, the wonders of BDSM, the nature of reality or the tragedy of humanity at large.

So yes, this post is really redundant. Sorry about that. I like it all, anyways, I can just appreciate the kind of story and type of writing you clearly despise: the one that doesn't care about the pre-coitus of entertainment rules, the absurd pretension of turning creative writing into a science, and just goes with the vibes. Hell, that's kind of the reason why I still follow the eroge scene.

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>>39766550
forgot to censor the 10x10 pixel boobs

>> No.39766594

>>39766317
Because scaji shimoneta is bad and boring, while qruppo shimoneta is good and entertaining?

>> No.39766623

>>39766558
>The work of art is the object seen sub specie aeternitatis; and the good life is the world seen sub specie aeternitatis. This is the connection between art and ethics.
That pic related is basically sca-ji's liberal watered down interpretation of this quote but I don't think he's quite getting at what wittgenstein is talking about. You need to understand wittgenstein's distinction between showing and saying to properly interpret what he's saying it. You should also keep in mind how he defines eternity view.
>if we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.
He isn't saying "life when you look at it holistically is just a collection of happy and unhappy moments, and both are intrinsic to living".
>The solution to the problem of life is to be seen in the disappearance of the problem. Isn’t this the reason why men to whom the meaning of life had become clear after long doubting could not say what this meaning consisted in?
Looking at art through this view was perfectly portrayed in zypressen where the mystical element in noaya's art exercise shows itself to rina and inspires her to become optimistic. Similarly, if how you are living is in certain harmony with your world, the good life shows itself to you, and the condition of death wouldn't bother you.
>Fear in the face of death is the best sign of a false, i.e. a bad life’
I think sca-ji does here exactly what wittgenstein was cautioning us against. Sca-ji's trying to make a statement about good life, he's trying to express the inexpressible, the mystical aspect that can only show itself to us and whatever you say about it will only turn out to be nonsensical. He's engaging in the futile effort of answering unanswerable nonsensical philosophical questions. I don't know if sca-ji is illustrating here how weird it would sound if someone who regained spark in his life is talking about his experience of the problem of life. Maybe he was trying to engage in language-games that later wittgenstein was so fond of but this isn't quite that.

>> No.39766635

Sca-ji saved this general

>> No.39766644

>>39766635
i can always start retarded underage-style shitposting, don't get too cocky

>> No.39766648

>>39766623
Nice pasta, bro.

>> No.39766698

>>39766558
>the one that doesn't care about the pre-coitus of entertainment rules, the absurd pretension of turning creative writing into a science, and just goes with the vibes.
I never said anything about following universal writing rules lmao
But I'm open to writers pushing the envelope but that doesn't mean I can appreciate anything you shit out. I don't have that much tolerance. My critique of sakuuta/toki is unique to it, borne out of my way of thinking and my experience with in, and I won't apply it wholesale to something else(like for example saihate no ima) as if I found universal rules of good writing.

>> No.39766715

>>39766395
it's not even about gary stuism, it's about characters acting in ways they shouldn't. regardless of how much of a prodigy you are no children are going to sit around in a park discussing how Van Gogh's artwork symbolizes the concept of Death.

another problem I had with Sakuuta in particular is the only person whose message they forced as "right" was Naoya. you had people like kana and rin that played off of his philosophies but the game never went into depth with them, and kind of forced one message down your throat.

>> No.39766738

Every time I look at the おかずに使える状況 section I am reminded japs are fucking casuals when it comes to fapping. I jerk it to the worst art, the shortest H-scenes.

>> No.39766758

>>39766395
It gets annoying when every other minute you're reminded of how genius he is from other characters.

>> No.39766760

>>39766738
i got hard few times reading nukitashi1-2 and 0 times during henpri
have yet to pop a boner in gss
why even bother? just skim it and go for to something good instead, like a doujin

>> No.39766766

>>39766738
fuck yeah CLOCKUP simps ww@
Can't wait for Ori.

>> No.39766802

>>39766738
what about unvoiced h-scenes

>> No.39766803

>>39766738
I'm not that hardcore, but that section does surprise me sometimes. I've played plenty of stuff with usuable enough H where that section had almost nobody fapping.

>> No.39766836

I only like H CGs where MC's fit delicious body is fit into the frame too.

>> No.39766837

>>39766738
>おかずに使える状況

where can i see this.

>> No.39766842

>>39766802
Of course I've fapped to hundreds of unvoiced H-scenes. I read a lot of doujin games which are honestly better unvoiced than using some cheap whore who doesn't even want to be there. Plus you know, most of Alicesoft. Rance 9, just the best.

>> No.39766858

おたくまっしぐら
Should I? Any used goods?

>> No.39766889

>>39766858
Only if you're a hardcore Romeofag. There's cuckshit in it too. The Original game is broken so you have to read through events manually from that kirikiri fanport. A lot of routes are incomplete and unimpressive, but it is choke full of weird Romeo humor.

>> No.39766895

>>39766836
okay homo

>> No.39766901

>>39766895
I'm bi

>> No.39766944

>>39766889
Why does every game about otaku have NTR?

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>>39766858
Depends

>> No.39767014

>>39766968
really makes you think

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>>39767014

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Bravo Sca-ji

>> No.39767101

>>39766968
>>39767067
Damn, picked up.
>>39767069
I always forget if this is edited or not. Doesn't help that most people would know that sentence from the fucking Simpsons, of all things.

>> No.39767113

>>39767101
>I always forget if this is edited or not. Doesn't help that most people would know that sentence from the fucking Simpsons, of all things.
It's not edited

>> No.39767142

オタカノ -こんなに可愛い彼女がオタクなわけがない-
おたマ!~おたく仲間はちっこいマニア~
私立アキハバラ学園
働くオタクの恋愛事情
These are all without cuckshit.

>> No.39767170

Is swapping cuckshit too?

>> No.39767173

Is owning a brothel cuckshit?

>> No.39767175

obviously

>> No.39767202

>>39767173
I don't see how a game about otaku would involve owning a brothel.

>> No.39767211

>>39767202
Cosplay roleplay sex

>> No.39767226

>>39767202
Cosplayer menhera deriheru brothel management sounds so good of an idea I can only lament the fact it's not real yet.

>> No.39767227

>>39767211
Sometimes I dress up my dog in my sister's clothes and pretend it's my sister when I fuck it. Does that make my dog a roleplayer?

>> No.39767249

>>39767227
Sure if it can say oniichan or nii nii

>> No.39767268

Need more VNs where the heorine is torn between choosing you or your best friend(male) because she loves you both.

>> No.39767297

>>39767268
Koinaku

>> No.39767313

>>39767268
so wa2 but bad?

>> No.39767384

>>39767170
No, it's just a kind of fair exchange between cultured gentlemen.

>> No.39767420

>>39767313
wa2 but good

>> No.39767447

>>39767313
I'm bored of fmf love triangle. Mmf is where it's at.

>> No.39767482

>>39767420
More like wa2 but used good

>> No.39767531

>>39767313
Gender bent version of WA2 will be kino of highest order

>> No.39767538

>>39767067
>わたしが高まる。。。一秒ごとに高まってわたしぁああぁぁあぁアAアアアアアア!
>A
It's time to go back friend >>>/vg/

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Need more games with sisterly love.

>> No.39767553

>>39767531
it'd just be another kusontrge

>> No.39767613

>>39767553
or pure yumejo kino

>> No.39767639

>>39767553
Depends. If MC is setsuna male then it'll be the most brutal NTRge of all time.

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Ou Jackson

Not surprised with this story as he isn't that good at writing romance.
Good luck to him on his last chance.

>> No.39768835

Does エロゲ have a negative connotation in Japan?
If you say to a Japanese person that you like エロゲ will they think you're a weirdo like a western person would if you told them you like erotic games

>> No.39768916

>>39768835
They'll think you're a weirdo for not saying エロゲー

>> No.39769042

>>39768916
t. dekinai

>> No.39769080

>>39766317
Both scat-ji and qruppshit are garbage

>> No.39769114

>>39769080
remarkably based

>> No.39769343

>>39765502
Why would it need to beat "art philosophy" when it beats henpri in art itself. I can't even fap to qruppo titles, which makes them failures as eroge.

>> No.39769387

>>39768179
why is he writing this shit as if i care...just tell me if you finished sorechiru

>> No.39769436
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39769436

Is this true? I unironically don't know.

>> No.39769462

>>39769436
yeah. i actually knew someone who asked a girl out first and she said yes but then they proceeded to just act normally like they did before and didn't go on dates or nothing. needless to say it was very awkward hanging out with them.

>> No.39769593

>>39769436
I find the standard trope of confessing to someone you barely know strange, to put it nicely. It's probably the main reason most relationships go down the drain, people don't know shit about each other. Going on dates before actually dating should be the bare minimum.

>> No.39769648

>>39769436
What does it say? Something like "isn't it only natural to confess before starting to date"?

>> No.39769682

>>39769648
>>/djt/

>> No.39769704

>>39769593
>Going on dates before actually dating
what

>> No.39769748

>>39769704
Don't have the 'tism. He just means going together as a couple before becoming "official".

>> No.39770241

>>39769436
It's the difference between dating and going out, idiot.

>> No.39770338

>>39770241
That's not the question being asked illiterate.

>> No.39770370

>>39770338
Retard

>> No.39770512

>>39769436
Confessing before going on dates is way more efficient. That way you leave no room for her to friendzone you.

>> No.39770535

>>39768835
Yeah, they'll probably think you're some disgusting otaku wanker.

>> No.39770584

>>39770512
Confessions aren't even a thing irl

>> No.39770680

>>39770584
>he doesn't text girls saying 'i like you' and say his friend took his phone if he doesn't get a good response

>> No.39770750

>>39770584
It's not? Why is reality such a kusoge?

>> No.39770757

I had my fill with the magazine for now. It has some cool stuff like hooksoft whirlpool 対談 and lots of info about upcoming releases.

Here it is (BugBug 2022-06 issue) if anyone else wants to take a look:
anonfiles com /P7n9edf8y3

>> No.39771035

>>39768179
Cringe
Is there any eroge writer who isn't some nerd incel

>> No.39771095

>>39769648
hello fellow dekinai. allow me:
>そうかあ? 付き合う前に何度もデートして告白って流れの方が自然じゃないか?
TL: Is that so? Before going out (officially as an item), isn't it more natural to go on several dates and then confess?

>> No.39771196
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39771196

Just waiting for the choice to inevitably pop up.

>> No.39771684

>>39769343
Because stimulation from through-provoking philosophy ideas (henpri) is better than stimulation from some shallow h scenes in scaji bullshit.

>> No.39772391

https://vndb.org/v5844
Did anyone here read this? How good is it compared to Dies Irae?

>> No.39772436

>>39772391
i've heard that it's all right and worth reading if you like dies irae or masada in general.

>> No.39772445

>>39772436
The problem is I'm an EOP...

>> No.39772744

>>39772391
never read or heard about this vn before desu
probably not this good since it's so obscure lol

>> No.39773006

>>39772744
it's not obscure at all

>> No.39773088

>>39773006
nah brah i never in my life heard about so must be obscure af

>> No.39773096

>>39772744
>>39773088
Pathetic jaded oldfag. It is terrifying to think that one day I will become like you.

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>>39773096
you surely will, someday

>> No.39773129

>>39773105
Funny thing is I've met someone like you two days ago on /a/. You sound the same. Was it you?
Also not clicking haven't read Muramasa yet

>> No.39773318

where do I start with the koihime series there seems to be a bunch of remakes and side stories

>> No.39773813

>>39773129
>Funny thing is I've met someone like you two days ago on /a/. You sound the same. Was it you?
nope, haven't posted in /a/ for a while, but maybe i will soon, because i picked up anime back again after a long break

>> No.39773897

I need some hot lolige recommendation where (You) impregnate your daughter.

>> No.39773941

>>39767545
>Futanari Heroine
>Female Protagonist
Fuck you for tricking me into looking up that piece of shit.

>> No.39774030

>>39773941
>Futanari Heroine
Hot is the game translated?

>> No.39774064

>>39773318
the 3 kakumei->moeshouden->the 3 eiyuutan

>> No.39774094

>>39773941
What did you think it is, judging from the screenshot?

>>39774030
Why do you ask?

>> No.39774102

>>39774094
because I'm a dirty EOP who likes futas..

>> No.39774132

>>39774102
Just use textractor and DeepL then, it's not like it has a sophisticated story or anything.

>> No.39774174

>>39774094
Some anege with a shimaidon that I have somehow missed, and I'd be okay with a small amount of avoidable homoshit. Turns out there's nothing except homoshit in there.

>>39774102
Some faggot made a patch, on ULMF and/or F95 iirc, shouldn't be a problem to find

>> No.39774224

>>39773897
bump

>> No.39774261

>>39774132
>>39774174
what's the name of the game?

>> No.39774276

>>39774261
https://vndb.org/v15901

>> No.39774282

>>39774224
https://vndb.org/g1158

In Papa Love you can impregnate at least the pink one, probably the loli too. Not a lolige and lolis annoy the fuck out of me, so find out on your own.

>>39774261
I don't remember nor even care anymore.

>> No.39774392

>>39774064
thanks anon. whats with the new ex games coming out? should I read otome kenran then the ex games after eiyuutan?

>> No.39774457

>>39774282
I did search on vndb, but I trust you bros more than vndb tagger. Looked up Loli Heroine, Impregnation, Father/Daughter Incest
Best I could find that fit my need is はじめてのおかあさん.
> lolis annoy the fuck out of me
You haven't found your right loli, then.

>> No.39774633

Loli pregnancy is my anti-fetish :/

Pregnancy (before the epilog) and pregnant sex should always be optional, it's disgusting.

>> No.39774725

>>39774457
There's also https://vndb.org/g992
If it doesn't have to be specifically loli, probably the best (especially mechanics-wise) daughter game I've played is
https://vndb.org/v4651

If it does, there's s that pedo simulator, from the makers of Mebae I think. Mebae has the ane tag which tricked me into playing it as well. She's alright, but in the end even the best loli is just a defective woman (midget/retarded/crippled in some other way), so the right loli is simply physically impossible. I'm an anefag to the bone.

>> No.39774960

https://vndb.org/v26448
The pedo sim in question. Not by Tanuki Soft but by their successor though. Also no preg tag, alas.

>> No.39775506

>>39772445
>The problem is I'm an EOP...
then why are you asking?
this is the untranslated thread

>> No.39775540

>>39774960
there is pregnancy but only for worst girl

>> No.39775661

>>39775506
fuck you JOP scum

>> No.39775671

>>39774960
>Also no preg tag, alas
>Pregnancy Good Ending 2.0

>> No.39775709

>>39775671
only one girl gets one and she's worst+heavily used goods, might as well not exist

>> No.39775755

>>39775709
She's great.

>> No.39775762

>>39775709
Fuck you, Mai is a cute psycho.

>> No.39776260
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39776260

Two different readers and their first impressions of two scenes

Reader A
>Joke scene: A 「Hahahahahahaha」
>Kokuhaku scene: A . o O { [HEROINE_NAME] is really cute... } <--- Feeling -> English MTL

Reader B
>Joke scene: B 「Haha. [WRITER_NAME] writes such cheesy jokes 」
>Kokuhaku scene: B 「As expected from [WRITER_NAME]. He writes these kokuhaku scenes well.」

>> No.39776513

>>39767639
Kek just imagine a gender bent Chiaki route, that would be absolutely insane as a NTRge. Jokes aside a mild take on a gender bent Koharu route could work pretty well if it's the setup for a glorious imouto route.

>> No.39776516

>>39772391
It's fantastic and pretty much mandatory if you liked Dies Irae. My only real complaint is having to dual wield the 18+ and all-ages versions (thanks Light) and the final fight.

>> No.39778430

>>39774392
thats sengoku koihime

>> No.39778581

https://twitter.com/SCA_DI/status/1524444723515068416

based scaji. looks like chapter 2 will be the end of the cringe parts.

>> No.39778661

>>39778581
>"Naoya is too good for the moege life"
Bold.

>> No.39778821

>>39778581
Then he should've written ch2 in a different way to avoid false expectations. It honestly feels like a retarded moege common route.

>> No.39778846

>>39778581
>the rest will be shonentard shit
lmao

>> No.39778861

>>39778846
literally every kamige is shounenshit kino once you boil it down

>> No.39778868

>>39778861
Spoken like a true chuunitard

>> No.39778910

Sakutoki chapter 3 trial (not free)

>> No.39779004

>>39778910
Bundled with new full voice version of sakuuta
I can easily see him doing this shit

>> No.39779059

>>39778581
https://twitter.com/SCA_DI/status/1524218522205036544
>自殺報道に関しては、明らかにその後の自殺数に影響を与えるデーターが存在し、有名人でなくてもどんな形であれ自殺というのは他人に影響を与えるというデーターすらあるので、著名人の場合はどんな形であれ公にするべきではないと思います。
What a faggot

>> No.39779107

Any anti-philosophy VNs?

>> No.39779117

>>39779107
That's basically the main message of Subahibi

>> No.39779127

>>39779107
muramasa

>> No.39779342

>>39778910
Which chapter 3? Makoto route 2.0?

>> No.39780417

>>39770757
>AMBITIOUS MISSION has oyakodon with the loli ninja
Ambitious indeed. Very nice.

>> No.39780625
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Anyone played this?

>> No.39780639

>>39780625
i downloaded it recently for some reason but i can't remember what that reason was

>> No.39780669

>>39780417
Picked up

>> No.39780684

Wait, there's no loli in ambitious mission

>> No.39780762
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>> No.39781459

>>39770757
Thanks. Do you happen to have the previous issue as well?

>> No.39781550
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Would you not see their panties if you were behind them? Do they wear some kind of protection against this?

>> No.39781633

>>39781459
Sorry I don't have it. That stuff is pretty niche so nobody shares it.

>> No.39781773

>>39781550
they don't wear panties to ensure no one sees them

>> No.39781850

>>39780639
Probably the same reason it's in my backlog, some of the art is really hot

>> No.39781901

>>39781550
If girls didn't want others to see their panties they wouldn't be wearing retarded shit like skirts

>> No.39781980

>>39771035
Those who write nukige.

>> No.39782024

>>39776516
Sigh... I hate being an EOP...

>> No.39782044

>>39782024
We hate you too.

>> No.39782050

>>39782044
Fuck you

>> No.39782066

>>39782050
No, fuck you. Go to /vg/ where you belong, scum.

>> No.39782077

>>39782066
I'll learn Jap too and be better than you fuck you bastard

>> No.39782088

>>39782077
I truly hope you will. Come back when you've learned it enough to discuss untranslated VNs, which is the topic of this thread.

>> No.39782142

>>39782088
Ah I will, most definitely. I won't repeat the same mistake.

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>>39782066
kek. there's an exact EOP equivalent of you in the /vg/ thread that tells JOPs to go back to /jp/. same propensity for namecalling as well. in your desperate attempt to "stay on topic" you only invite more shit flinging instead

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>> No.39782190

Anything like niizuma lovely x cation but actually good?

>> No.39782203
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God I wish they'd stop tryharding so bad, all the hints at a troubled past and the fact that most characters have to be pieces of shit for the sake of it just come off as lame, it feels like Flanderization at this point. There was just a hint of that stuff in Koikari to complement the rest of the content so it worked well there, it felt like it was too much in Renai Royale but at least the heroines were entertaining.
But this time they fucked up the heroines way too much and you have a bakage that's trying way too hard to be serious while being hard carried by the setting and one heroine.

>> No.39782206

>>39782148
He's a hero then. If only you fags posted here instead of that garbage eop thread we wouldn't be this slow.

>> No.39782214

>>39782203
cute main heroine on the left

>> No.39782233

>>39782148
That's probably Kusomori-kun. He spends literal hours white-knuckling the /vg/ thread and can reliably be clocked replying to people posting the "wrong" images inside of 60-80 seconds. Contributes nothing but metaposting garbage. Loves the "off-topic" meme and samefags constantly.

>> No.39782236

>>39782203
There's nothing worse than a moege that tries to be some serious character drama shit

>> No.39782240

>>39782233
Schizo

>> No.39782290

>>39768179
>as he isn't that good at writing romance
>hack jackson
>good at anything other than dialogue writing

>> No.39782298

>>39782024
Just use MTL, idiot.

>> No.39782310

>>39782298
No what no

>> No.39782342
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>>39768916
just for you

>> No.39782374

>>39782342
I rely on the エロゲー批評空間 for a definitive spelling.

>> No.39782380

>>39782298
>MTL'ing KKK
I can only imagine how much a hilarious disaster that would turn into.

>> No.39782407

>>39782380
It'll be fine for the most part.

>> No.39782418

>>39782407
Delusional

>> No.39782426

>>39782380
I don't even understand why people think kkk is hard to read, is it the same eops that said dies was hard to read like a decade ago? the only difficult thing is the retarded chants that don't even matter

>> No.39782448

>>39782426
I'm not even necessarily asserting that. It's just that KKK is "properly" written so of course MTL will shit the bed everywhere. It's not just like anime lines or something.

>> No.39782471

>>39782448
>>39782380
Masada's prose is pretty straightforward in terms of structure that it will be easy for MTL than moe moe kyun speak or coomer dialogues.

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>>39782407
>>39782426
>>39782471
It IS hard and this is coming from the DI TL team. He also says KKK would be even harder to TL.

>> No.39782515

I don't understand why people outside of Japan aren't seriously engaging with VN format. It has so much fucking potential that competent western writers/artists can create masterpieces.

>> No.39782526

>>39782471
MTL can't even do 世話にX phrases correct on a consistent basis. What makes you think you can MTL what's basically a long novel and not expect errors everywhere?

>> No.39782547

>>39782515
>competent western writers/artists
There's your problem right there

>> No.39782553

>>39782515
Americans don't read.

>> No.39782554

>>39782526
If you're a disgusting EOP MTL is no worse than those garbage translations you get. You might as well bite the bullet.

>> No.39782590

>>39782502
>this is coming from the DI TL team.
Steiner was learning Japanese while working on dies irae

>> No.39782595

>>39782203
cute on the left. game?

>> No.39782605

>>39782590
Jesus Christ just how many shit did that fag TL? He's everywhere.
Although I am super glad he made me experience the masterpiece that is DI, god bless him.

>> No.39782628

>>39782502
>DI TL team
one of the guys working on it literally killed himself, why would I care what they say? The game also has translation errors so they are clearly all retarded

>> No.39782637

Whatever the fuck happened to tsui no stella

>> No.39782640

>>39782628
>one of the guys working on it literally killed himself
????????????????????
Source?!

>> No.39782664

>>39782637
I'm guessing Romeo didn't finish writing it in time, like always.

>> No.39782691

>>39782640
google "conjueror"

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>>39782691

>> No.39782727

>>39782691
I just looked up reddit and twitter and it's sad. Though I can't find the reason for death anywhere, are you sure it was suicide?
He also had a Mercurius pfp so based.....

>> No.39782750

>>39782724
Ngl subahibi also made me kill myself despite its message

>> No.39782767

>>39782727
Pretty sure his fiancée said so on twitter.

>> No.39782770

>>39782727
>are you sure it was suicide?
Yeah his sister confirmed it. He was probably depressed cause he had no other issues in life.

>> No.39782778

>>39782724
Steiner's post here is pretty funny when you consider how it's probably his fault since they were together on holiday just recently and he was a dick

>> No.39782783

>>39782750
>subahibi also made me kill myself
Are you a ghost?

>> No.39782807

>>39782767
>fiancée
Fucking normalfag

>> No.39782938

Anyone played this one?
https://vndb.org/v29638

Wondering as an EOP is there anywhere to look for a partial, if I'm just fucked for that

>> No.39783052

>>39782938
>defloration by others
why would you want to play that

>> No.39783064

>>39783052
Not him but that's hot.

>> No.39783069

>>39783064
hang yourself

>> No.39783422

https://vndb.org/v15345

i present to you, the superior school days

>> No.39784394

>>39760671
His writing in Tsui no Sora remake was pretty decent Though
He really needed to make the Sakurano series much shorter

>> No.39784425

https://twitter.com/august_soft/status/1524665404018229253?s=20&t=27UWKne1vuLwzzwDqxjJ1A

>> No.39784555

>>39784425
It's not like her character in Love Live gets a lot of activity nowadays, so maybe she's cutting eroge just because she wants to get more anime roles. A real shame though, regardless.

>> No.39784561

>>39784425
>gachashit

>> No.39784888

>>39773129
don't worry, that's mogymasa not muramasa

>> No.39785348

>>39782595
futakoi

>> No.39785375

How do you guys read FDs?
I know i'm not obliged to read them, but at the same time it feels like a waste when i ignore fd for game i liked a lot.
I don't want to touch them right after i'm done with vn, but at the same time i almost never read them afterwards either. Few exceptions like kinkoi or daito, but amount of FDs i read is much less than amount of FDs i didn't read.
Can't even bring myself to do senshinkan fd, cause main game feels totally finished and fd beginning is meh.

>> No.39785792

>>39785348
thank you

>> No.39785979

>>39785375
Just look at them as extra content with the characters you like, not sequels.

>> No.39786121

>>39785375
If all you care about is the ending then sure, you should avoid every single fandisc.
As for myself I enjoyed most (95%) of the fds that I played

>> No.39786893

>>39785375
>Can't even bring myself to do senshinkan fd, cause main game feels totally finished and fd beginning is meh.
No need to worry about that in the case of senshinkan. It all makes sense. If you just want a spoiler to make you feel better, it's all just a dream AGAIN and doesn't affect/change the first senshinkan's ending. As for the beginning part, it is a little weaker but just let the Nobuaki and Nanten subplot carry it.

>> No.39787064

>>39786893
Thanks, my motivation went up now.
>>39786121
>If all you care about is the ending then sure
Not really, not like i care just about ending.
Even if i just treat fd as extra fun content, it's fun to do once i'm done with vn. Maybe i just have too much shit to read...

>> No.39787178

any decent love trianglege? trying to capture a bit of that wa2 feel

>> No.39787212

is weeb stuff the only reason you people learned jp for?

>> No.39787226

>>39787212
Occasionally, I read a "real" book here or there, but yeah.

>> No.39787316

>>39787212
I didn't learn it *for* otaku shit.
I just realized I was an irredeemable ota so I may as well learn while I satiate my thirst for moe.

>> No.39787335

>>39787212
Not just for weeb stuff, but for vns exactly. Most of weeb stuff is tled either way, unlike vns. And mtl is unreliable.

>> No.39787339

>>39787212
Yes

>> No.39787345

>>39782502
Hard to translate doesn't mean much for reader.

>>39782554
>>39784888
Lmao. I'm sure n4 """jops""" itt understand A LOT from reading dies irae & muramasa in japanese with texthooker while totally appreciating GREAT prose, unlike filthy eops with their garbage tranny-fanfiction-lations. Totally reading into writer intention and not schizo-fanfiction created by a texthooking """jop""" brain while deciphering textlines. Much better than eop experience.

>> No.39787354

>>39787345
what is texthooker

>> No.39787357

>>39787212
I learned Japanese exclusively for lolige

>> No.39787388

is it a good idea to disable distorted speech in KKK right away? like game asks you in beginning
how much am I gonna spoil? don't want to spoil too much for myself, but reading distorted parts of text on second playthrough only sounds like a pain

>> No.39787427

>>39787335
>Most of weeb stuff is tled either way
Not really. Only anime is. Everything else is mostly untranslated.

>> No.39787433

>>39787357
most games should be avoided because they are proprietary. find a better reason to learn a language.

>> No.39787459

>>39787388
This is perhaps my unpopular opinion, but I would say you're actually better off with the voices undistorted at first. They do spoil things things, but everything that is spoiled is blindly obvious imo and you'd have to be a retard to not figure it out anyway. And yeah, going back through and checking the distorted parts the second time through was a pain in the ass for me.

>> No.39787481

>>39787388
it pretty much just reveals that all the characters really are the dies irae guys, because you get to hear their chants.
there's pretty much no reason not to disable it, as far as I know the option to disable it right away was added in the akebono no hikari edition because by then everyone knew it was a dies sequel.

>> No.39787533

>>39787427
Most of mainstream manga is, and I don't see much interesting untranslated stuff. Doujins - sure. Same for actual games. What kind of untranslated content are you talking about, vns aside?

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>>39787533

>> No.39787546

>>39787533
Dlsite indie games, erotic and non erotic
also I jerk off to ASMR too

>> No.39787581

>>39787533
>mainstream manga
Well yeah no shit. What about non-mainstream manga (aka most of it)? I'm not saying I read that stuff, but there's obviously a shitload of manga made all the time that nobody ever translates. Plus, it's not uncommon for manga that do have translation groups to get dropped, delayed, etc. Basically only anime is reliably translated. Everything else, Manga, LNs, etc. is either a tossup or just a shitshow.

>> No.39787600

>>39787459
>>39787481
thanks

>> No.39787688
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>>39787433

>> No.39787695

>>39787546
Good point, forgot about asmr.
>>39787581
>What about non-mainstream manga
I honestly don't know any good non-mainstream untranslated manga, so cannot agree.

>> No.39787752

>>39787695
I don't know what your cutoff for "non-mainstream" is, but I'm pretty sure the final volume of Hitsugi Katsugi is still untranslated. I liked that series and it ended years ago.

>> No.39787775

>>39787752
No I'm retarded. They did actually finish that.

>> No.39787862

>>39787212
yeah. none of the japanese 'serious' literature i've read has really impressed me desu. they always end up feeling very constrained and ambitionless.

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>>39787752
>Hitsugi Katsugi
It is now.

>> No.39788072

>>39787212
>>39787335
>>39787862
isn't learning an entire just for eroge, a medium with probably only a handful of decent writers, a bit... well

>> No.39788095

>>39788072
*an entire language

>> No.39788118

>>39788072
No, because that's the same kind of cope people have about "buying a console for one game". It's just an excuse because you can't be bothered. You will always use it for something else because you are human

>> No.39788130

>>39788118
>something else
Like what lmao

>> No.39788154

>>39787546
>Dlsite indie games
Almost all low effort garbage

>>39787581
Most manga that worth something get translations. If it's untranslated it's most probably either something new or garbage.

>> No.39788172

>>39788154
>everything that's good is just magically translated trust me bro
here's the cope again

>> No.39788197

>>39788172
>trust me bro there's a treasure trove of obscure hidden gems only read by me and other 3 people on my discord.

>> No.39788223

>>39788118
>You will always use it for something else
I only use my Japanese skills for eroge these days. I used to read manga and LNs but I don't find them interesting anymore. There's just nothing else to do with it. No, I don't wanna live in that shitty country. I am also losing interest in this medium so it's pretty much useless.

>> No.39788255

>>39788197
It's not even that. Manga translations are often slow and lag behind. Plus, these groups have tons of drama. OK maybe if you're okay with waiting 5+ years, whatever you are keeping up with will eventually be translated.

>> No.39788261

>>39788072
if you're dumb eceleb cocksucker retard who wants to read top10 hadler vns and fuck off, then yeah, you should kill yourself instead of learning language
you sound like one for sure

>> No.39788282

>>39788261
>top10 hadler vns
His reccs are the best this medium can offer unless you're a moebuta or nukitard

>> No.39788297

>>39788255
>Manga translations are often slow and lag behind. Plus, these groups have tons of drama.
That used to be the case years ago but not anymore.

>> No.39788300

>>39788282
see? that's what i'm talking about
pretentious brainless faggot
you're probably false-flagging tho, really love some post-irony here hehe

>> No.39788306

>>39787212
But pretty much everything Japanese culture-related can be described as a "weeb stuff"? Even tourism and politics. What else is there to learn Japanese for, pure utilitarian purposes like business/work?
So yeah, for me the only reason is weeb stuff.

>> No.39788310

>>39787581
Who the fuck even reads manga? They are terrible as fuck these days and stretch the plot for eternity due to serialization.

>> No.39788311

>>39788306
2d = weeb shit

>> No.39788323

>>39788310
Yeah idk, I don't really follow very many manga either. I'm sure there's people out there that keep close tabs on it though.

>> No.39788336

>>39788300
I'm not false flagging or being ironic. It's not my fault your taste is shit and you think garbage moege like another asashit or smeeshit is better than masterpieces like saihate no ima.

>> No.39788349

>>39788300
name some non-cartel vns which are good
also most "cartel" stuff isn't good either (sry m00gy)
baldr sky, dies irae and chaos child are dog shit or decent at best and reading 10 pages of wittgenstein would probably be more rewarding than the entirety of subahibi
muramasa is great though, can't argue about that

>> No.39788350

>>39788336
try better next time, your eceleb false-flagging is weaker than russians false-flagging agenda

>> No.39788369

>>39788311
>Gomenasai, my name is Ken-Sama.
This is not what the true weebs are after. 2D is not the only reason for me, but the larger "entertainment" is.

>> No.39788372

>>39788350
Is that the best you can do? My dude those VNs are critically acclaimed for a reason.

>> No.39788449

>>39788349
>muramasa is great though, can't argue about that
Katan said it's bad

>> No.39788456

>>39788372
dunno, want me to throw some ai generated eroge copypasta onto you? i used eceleb reviews as a source for it

>> No.39788476

>>39788449
i'm currently in the second chapter and it is very well-paced and uses interesting techniques like switching up the perspectives of the characters to keep things engaging
give it a try, the short prologue is amazing

>> No.39788503

>It's translated so why bother
You faggots are really falling for this shit? Moe doesn't translate. Not well, not badly, it doesn't translate at all.
I'd rather have my chinese cartoon porn be written by a bonafide chink instead of consuming the low-quality garbage pumped out by some barely literate transfaggot. And yes, that's enough reason. Why the fuck play a moege when the moe is bastardized? At that point you're just reading low-tier fiction with pictures and sound. In which case you may as well read the native shit instead.

>> No.39788505

>>39788476
I thought it was initially great but by the time I completed side routes It was atrocious, and then it becomes meh and then kino and then meh. Pretty inconsistent but I can at least understand why it's well-liked.

>> No.39788514

>>39788505
Did you read it in jp? Probably took you 200 hours so you were bored. Eops finished it in 30 hours and were pretty happy with it. Should've read it in en if you're that slow

>> No.39788517

>>39788503
No one cares about moege

>> No.39788532

>>39788514
>Probably took you 200 hours so you were bored.
No, it took me somewhere around 45 hours, schizo.

>> No.39788533

>>39788072
I learn Japanese for fuck cute girls. I don't read pretentious garbage like meme irae and mememasa to impress people on moogy's discord like you.

>> No.39788537

>>39788503
yeah it's funny because even if stuff is translated, i've tried to play a few translated games and have found the translation quality absolutely abysmal, official and unofficial

>> No.39788539

>>39788533
Means you probably went too fast and skimmed shit out of it, so yo failed my test and too da bait.

>> No.39788550

>>39788533
>I don't read pretentious garbage like meme irae and mememasa to impress people on moogy's discord like you.
Those already got translated so they lack JOP value. You read untranslated gems like oretsuba, saihate no ima, albatross koukairoku, motarou's viprpgs for moogy points.

>> No.39788562

>>39788539
->
>>39788532

>> No.39788578

>>39788550
As if you read just to feel exclusivity, not because it's a good vn
Just like basedsonyboy crying when more and more exclusives getting ported to pc

>> No.39788619

>>39788517
I only care about moege. Writing is garbage anyway, across all genres.

>> No.39788620

>>39788517
literally every VN is moege you fucking retard

>> No.39788627

>>39788517
Go back to moogy's discord.

>> No.39788657

It's kinda pathetic when you think about it. Eops read shit just because it's translated, jops read shit just because it's untranslated...

>> No.39788658

>>39788578
>As if you read just to feel exclusivity, not because it's a good vn
Good is subjective and various factors influence your opinion(brainwash). Any VN that is untranslated with a couple of internet nerds showering uncritical praise on it makes you approach that VN as it's special and life-changing. What's the point of learning Japanese if you don't get to feel special.

>> No.39788667

who the fuck is this moogy faggot you guys are always going on about?

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>learning an entire language for escapist coomer dating sims
playing moege is pathetic

>> No.39788672

>>39788658
> couple of internet nerds
> literally hundreds and thousands of good scores on egs and vndb

>> No.39788674

>>39788658
>What's the point of learning Japanese if you don't get to feel special.
I just like reading VNs man.

>>39788667
Some washed up eceleb people can't let go of for some reason.

>> No.39788678

Musicus feels like it was fun to see the full potential of this poor girl waiting to get tired of listening that sweet, angelic voice of his.
I will look at this treasure that represents extraordinary value for tourists to the ground.
You don’t want to understand the long-term stability of the tempo and flow of life and daily scenes like some of the reasons people tend to get cut and at last the fight ends.

Musicus is the brilliance of the steam engine and refined across hundreds of years of your body and senses, forced to endure an eternity of cumshots. My stamina for reading in general don't provide any value and just following the hate NTR bandwagon stereotype that's prevalent on the computer so that I can see Musicus protagonist as real human, except perhaps your closest, most beloved soulmates.

Having established their backstories and motives, it makes perfect sense how they are just there in order to add irrelevant plot points and distract from the shackles of human society, of the tempo and flow of life and he has to design a train network connects cities, bringing new people and new ideas and nothing else.
Instead of rejecting the conservative viewpoint as backwards or oppressive, political change in Musicu is about, how the ground in endless wood and steel.
Kei’s childhood friend fits that to a new generation of lost souls, seeking meaning in a public mall with so many others with its tricks and flashes, putting these poor souls into a substitute brain.

Not just the VN medium, but of the past are the basis for how everyone became how they would relate to the requirements of the atmosphere.

>> No.39788686

>>39788667
Hadler's puppet

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>>39788674
>I just like reading VNs
Please don't. VNs are proprietary and contain malware. Read this https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/

>> No.39788693

>>39788670
If you're going to waste your time reading through low-grade escapist coomer dating fiction, why not learn a language while you're at it? Because that's how it goes. You don't learn a language for them. You learn the language while reading them.
Again, I'm amazed people here are actually falling for this weak bullshit.

>> No.39788694

>>39788670
some people actually enjoy learning languages for its own sake you know

>> No.39788705

>>39788687
Stallman is right about proprietary software, but I really don't give a single fuck about game engines.

>> No.39788706

>>39788672
VNs struggle to even get 500 votes these days on egs

>> No.39788723

>>39788693
>why not learn a language while you're at it?
because he can get by without learning Japanese? Maybe he doesn't play VNs 24x7 like your NEET ass. Maybe he thinks learning Japanese just cause he reads VNs once per every two months isn't worth it. People like you are just as annoying as people who think learning Japanese is default bad. It all depends on you. No one needs to force themselves to learn Japanese. No need to find excuses to not learn Japanese.

>> No.39788734

>>39788678
Why the fuck did you replace maitetsu with musicus in this pasta

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>>39788687
I WILL read proprietary visual novels on my windows system and edit screenshots in Photoshop, and there's nothing you can do about that.

>> No.39788771

>>39788694
>learning languages for its own sake
Peak mental illness unless you're a scholar. Languages are just tools of means. You're missing the point by learning any language for its own sake.

>> No.39788779

>>39788771
then go to a different board you eop esl nigger

>> No.39788784

>>39788771
spoken like a true monolingual retard, pathetic.

>> No.39788794

>>39788667
Creator/destroyer of TL wiki
Worked hard to prepare the ground for official translation scene
His taste is considered the best

>> No.39788798

>>39788768
onee-chan deserved better

>> No.39788799

>>39788784
nta but why would anyone learn japanese if there wouldn't be anythying in that language they're interested in
learning a language just for the sake of it seems like that idiotic thing those youtube """polyglots""" are doing

>> No.39788807

>>39788779
Everyone on this board study Japanese for otaku reasons. You're the only weird who enjoys learning Japanese for its own sake.

>> No.39788830

>>39788768
>I WILL smoke crack every day and there's nothing you can do about that.
Yeah sure we have free will. I'm just telling you what's better.

>> No.39788850

Which VN was life-changing to you and why?

>> No.39788860

>>39788771
Kys, EOP scum.

>> No.39788878

>>39788850
Musumaker
It got me to read Justine. It was only downhill from there. I can't look at the world the same way anymore.

>> No.39788888

>>39788878
Sade might as well be an eroge writer

>> No.39788969

>>39787862
Modern 純文学 is terrible
エンタメ小説 and キャラノベ are just boring normie shit
キャラ小説
There are a couple of masterpieces in LN medium

>> No.39788976

>>39788830
>sugar is a drug and makes you addicted, you should never eat sugar!
No, you're just being a schizo. Listen, FOSS is a great thing and I used it if reasonbly practical, but this doesn't apply to games, VNs, and (sadly) most other software (yet).

>> No.39789079

https://vndb.org/v14886
anyone play this?

>> No.39789122

>>39788976
The vast majority of software I use is FOSS. It's basically only games and firmwire blobs that are proprietary on my machines.

>> No.39789141

>>39788687
the doujin that crop is from was made using proprietary software. long live proprietary software. praise be to proprietary software. I don't know what I'd do without it

>> No.39789158

>>39788657
but I only read lolige?

>> No.39789181

>>39788850
hajimete no okaasan. I read it as an EOP and it motivated me to learn japanese so I could read more lolige

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>>39788976
I never add sugar to my food.

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>>39789141
it was made with free/libre software (krita, gimp, etc.)

>> No.39789236

>>39789201
the japanese dont even know what those programs are. it was obviously made with clip studio paint

>> No.39789261

>>39789236
Japanese people value the importance of libre software, I doubt many of them use proprietary shit.

>> No.39789270

>>39789261
see >>39787688
the japanese know better

>> No.39789271

>>39789261
Don't like 99% of japs use iphones?

>> No.39789357

>>39789271
Not 99, much less. Those who do have no idea how software works.

>> No.39789400

>>39776260
I'm still safe.
B side only comes up rarely when I can't get into the game completely.

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Snow Trap S is a thing.
https://www.sp-time.com/works/snow-trap-s
But, likely, english release never...
Maybe if more of us confide to the maple...

>> No.39789832

>>39789765
That doesn't look like a trap

>> No.39789848

>>39789832
Sorry, not that kind of trap.

>> No.39789864

>>39789765
I can't play this if there's no Japanese translation.

>> No.39789874

>>39789864
There's always confide to the maple.

>> No.39789928

>>39789765
>chink

>> No.39789938

>>39789928
plotge.

>> No.39789946

>>39789938
Not that guy but I don't care if it originated in China or not, if it's not translated into Japanese I'm not interested.

>> No.39789948

>>39789946
fine

>> No.39789949

>>39789938
I don't trust the chinese.

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>>39789201
>>39789190
>>39788687
>>39787433
Disturbing facts about the so-called t*tsumoto and his "guide".

It was MattvJapan's "MPV video" that made him known to the public.
and yet, he's backstabbing Matt in his matrix server.

1) He doesn't know Japanese, nor we have seen videos of him speaking in it.

2) He's Russian.

3) He promotes not using javascript supported websites, and yet he's still posting on 4chan.

4) He's a racist and a white supremacist.

5) Despite promoting free software in his guide, he hosts his blog on Github (owned by Micro$oft).

He isn't an honest person. He is a hypocrite who promotes the exact opposite of what he does.

>> No.39789996

>>39789967
Not really VN related.
Don't care for offtopic drama.

>> No.39790168

Why do I keep looking up VN voice actresses only to be disappointed
Ignorance is bliss

>> No.39790257

>>39790168
Disappointed in what way?

>> No.39790697

>>39790257
They look meh
Or they're straight up a 50+ year old hag

>> No.39791170

>>39790697
What did you fucking expect? They're voicing porn games for a reason. Are you going to complain about vtubers being ugly IRL too?

>> No.39791186

that little nigga dunsany from demonbane is great
love that little guy

>> No.39791200

>>39790697
I feel that way about most seiyuu, but why do you care? They're voice actresses, not idols/actors (well Eroge seiyuu aren't at least).

>> No.39791570

>>39790168
>>39790697
99% of asians are ugly. At least you know eroge seiyuu got the job for their talent, unlike most.
Hate idol seiyuu, simple as.

>> No.39791599

>>39791570
Maybe for Japanese girls
80% of all Korean girls are very beautiful. Though probably 99% of those have had plastic surgery

>> No.39791768

someone a few threads ago said koinaku isn't a mmf love triangle but.. how?

>> No.39791825

>>39791768
i played it too long ago but I don't remember it being very triangle love thingy

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>>39782203
I have to concur, Asaproject has made some serious mistakes their past two games with regards to the personalities of their heroines. RenaiRoyale started the fuckups and Futamata just ramps it up to 11 with almost every heroine being a one trick pony personality wise. Did they do this for a reason, do the japs like this or something? I don't get it myself.

>> No.39792972

>>39791768
It has all kinds of love triangles including mmf

>> No.39793004

>>39782553
That's not true, but the vast majority of the book market is for female readers. A bit of a shame, but hey, its the same reason video games are mostly made for men. I consider myself fortunate that I'm able to read the stuff I want, even if I have to do it in another language's porno games.

>> No.39793031

>>39793004
Iirc I remember reading somewhere that nonfiction sells more than fiction in the states.

>> No.39793076

>>39793031
>nonfiction sells more than fiction in the states.
That's been a recent trend that pretty much happened around the same time as the rise of the smartphone. I know a few readers myself that have switched to podcasts/audiobooks. Can't exactly do the same with eroge.

>> No.39793115

>>39793004
Back in the day before video games were a thing a lot of crap books were aimed at males and that coincided with the rise of genre fiction. But when boys switched on to other hobbies around 90s/00s, the publishing industry really started pandering to females to keep itself afloat. There aren't many media that pander to females anyway.

>> No.39793579

why did lovely x cation 2 come out before lovely x cation

>> No.39793698

What are some good visual novels to play when sleep deprived?

>> No.39793714

>>39793698
None, get sleep you fucking retard

>> No.39793740

What are some good visual novels to play when well rested?

>> No.39793745

>>39793714
:(

>> No.39793811
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Cute

>> No.39793921

>>39793740
me doing urmom

>> No.39795152

>>39788297
Lots of popular manga are held hostage by massive groups that only release when someone snipes it from them after months of inactivity. Groups like LHTranslation are consistently behind 5+ chapters on the 30+ series they lay claim to. Only manga with popular anime adaptations are guaranteed fast translations. Heck, half the translations are by third worlders who MTL and just wing it through context. In the past I've even seen JP -> ESP -> EN releases, manga and LN translation scene is awful.

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>>39793579
It's a mystery.

>> No.39795450

https://twitter.com/propeller_staff/status/1525034670039404544
lol

>> No.39795528

>>39755626
>>39795525
>>39795525
>>39795525
>>39795525
new

>> No.39795566

>>39795152
I'm sitting on a stack of really nice, untranslated manga but not realeasing anything but one, currently :/
At least I don't lay claim to anything.

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