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Japanese bedding is appealing to me. It seems space efficient, firm,comfortable, and cost effective.

I don't actually know anything about it, though. Is there a certain brand or type of mattress that is particularly good? Can I use normal sheets and blankets? Is it worth it without tatami floors?

>> No.10188288

>>10188269
I like couch.

>> No.10188293

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!!

>> No.10188299

Just buy a mattress and put it on the floor. Congrats, now you have an authentic Japanese bed.

>> No.10188312

>>10188288
You think I'm going to buy a couch to sleep on? couches are expensive as hell.

>> No.10188325

>>10188288
Not confortable to sleep on.

>> No.10188326

Someone post those Apprentice Sysadmin of Gensokyo pictures.

Didn't he actually get rid of a full-size bed so he could have a futon?

>> No.10188332

>>10188312
I kinda thought it would fit your description.
>space efficient, firm,comfortable, and cost effective.
Cuz, when you got couch. You got something to sit on and sleep on. You don't need bed.and save space. Kay, price varies.

>> No.10188341

does anyone have a list of futon companies that are made by over laboring nihonjin?

>> No.10188345

Found this: http://www.miyashoji.com/

Looks good. Thanks for being no help, dudes.

>> No.10188346

Just get a twin mattress

>> No.10188352

>>10188345

Well I'M interested, thanks for the link

>> No.10188354

>>10188345
As this is the glorious United States of America I can choose to help you or not, you better respect that son

>> No.10188361

Holy fuck, just how much of a weeaboo can one be?

>> No.10188362

>>10188269
>comfortable

It isn't.

>> No.10188374

>>10188362
Have you slept on one?

>> No.10188381

>>10188374
Fuck off Sean no one wants your faggot insight

>> No.10188386

Brb guys, binding my feet because the gooks used to do it a thousand years ago, and they're a superior culture to our own ^^;

>> No.10188395

>>10188374
Yes. It feels like passing out drunk and waking up in your cloths. There is nothing comfortable or cozy about it.

>> No.10188394

>>10188269
I took interest in a futon as it just rolls up and is meant to sit on the floor.

But I realized I can just turn a single mattress on the side. The only downside is really it's bulky, not-portable and spews dust out if you don't clean regularly.

>> No.10188412

>>10188386
>>10188361

/jp/ - Weeaboo general

It was decided on /q/, don't bother moot.

>> No.10188407

>>10188394

Well, I don't really want a mattress just sitting up against the wall all the time. I have a normal full-size mattress and box-spring I bought off a friend for cheap, but it's too soft for me. Kinda hurts my back. I like a nice firm bed. And NY apartments are small as shit.

>> No.10188428

>>10188407
Try getting a western futon cushion and putting it on the hard floor. You know, the couches that fold into beds.

Would probably be a fuck lot cheaper than buying a tatami platform + futon, sheet ect.

>> No.10188465

>>10188395
I do that a lot though.
Not so bad when you wear comfy clothes during the day though.

>> No.10188472

>>10188386
> who am I quoting?

>> No.10188474

>>10188428

Yeah, Western style futon is probably the best choice.

>> No.10188486

It's all about the blanket, just get the super poofy blanket and it will feel great no matter what surface.
obviously a mattress will feel better than a thin blanket on a hardwood floor.

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>>10188345
>Q&A
>2 Comments
>"DO YOU REPAIR JAPANESE DIVIDER SCREENS?"
>"If we made the shoji it is easy to repair and maintain but depending on who made the shoji it would it be feasible. Email us photo(s) of the area needing repair info@miyashoji.com Look forward to your email. Have a great day. -Zui "

Ahahaha. That contrast between the post and the reply threw me off.
Why would someone even ask a question in caps anyway?
They seem like really nice guys though.

>> No.10188502

If you can't even make the effort to stand up to take a shit, what makes you think you'll fold up and put away all of your bedding every morning/evening??
unless priorities are messed up, as usual.

>> No.10188511

>>10188496
I laughed out loud.
They do seem like nice guys though, probably because they charge lots of money.

>> No.10188510

I have an authentic nippon futon, it's very nice but they're kind of a chore. You have to air them out bi weekly otherwise they get all mildewy. Other than that they're extremely firm so they're great if you have a bad back like mine.

>> No.10188524

>>10188496
>Ahahaha. That contrast between the post and the reply threw me off.
You're pretty sensitive.

>> No.10188536

OP if you are tight on space get a sofa bed, which is a sofa that you can turn into a bed, they can be bought cheaply. Or as >>10188394 suggested put a mattress on the floor and then put it against the wall during the day. I do this, not out of any desire to imitate glorious nippon but because my divan caved in and I can't afford a new one.

>> No.10188545

>>10188496
>Why would someone even ask a question in caps anyway?
Because they frantically need their JAPANESE DIVIDER SCREEN repaired right now, obviously.

>> No.10188556

>>10188536
I think most people are doing it for glorious nippon,
unless you really can't even move, what's the point of having floor space anyway?
For me, all I need really is bed space, computer goes right next to the head of the bed so I never have to leave the bed. My neck is fucked up now though.

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>>10188511
It does seem super expensive. How would a NEET ever afford anything in that store?

>>10188524
I'm sorry. It just seemed like such a serene website and store. But then CAPSLOCK. But nice reply. It was just mildly humorous to me.

>>10188545
It must have been pretty important.

>> No.10188574

Sleeping on a floor is gay

>> No.10188652

Good luck getting asthma for sleeping on the floor. Unless you like to clean, a lot.

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>>10188269
I use a double duvet, a blanket and a pillow. I lay the double duvet out flat on the floor, do the same with the blanket, and put the pillow on the far left. I lay down and fold half of the duvet/blanket over me. So half is underneath to make it comfortable and half is on top to keep me warm. Even though it's a wooden floor I still find it comfortable. In the morning I fold it all up neatly and put it in a corner of my room.

I prefer it to a bed because it saves space and is supposedly good for your back. You should try it, it not for everyone though.

>> No.10188747

>>10188662
>In the morning I fold it all up neatly and put it in a corner of my room.
That sounds very adorable.

>> No.10188766

>>10188747
Thanks. I'm a 6ft, bearded, muscly man though.

>> No.10188776

>>10188766
It's what's inside that matters.

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10188792

I don't see the appeal. This kind of bed saves space just as well and you get an actual bed instead of a glorified sleeping bag.

>> No.10188798

>>10188792
That'd probably cost hundreds to have it installed and unless you own your house/flat you can forget about it.

>> No.10188810

>>10188662
I did the same after I tweaked my back deadlifting.
I was back up to 4plate quicker that I thought, and the bedding helped.

>> No.10188808

>>10188792
do people actually use those?

>> No.10188811

>>10188792
What's the point of that?

>> No.10188822

>>10188798
If your apartment is small enough to require one, it likely is already installed.

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>>10188810
I just had the mental image of a big burly weight lifter guy in his room surrounded by figurines and clutching his dakimakura..

>> No.10189034

>>10188822
What if I rented a shitty appartment because I'm a NEETlord you punk, huh?

Futon is cheap and mobile, yet better for the back than a sleeping bag.

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>>10188269

Magniflex Mesh Wing
http://www.osaka-marukin.co.jp/en/magniflex/wing.html

3 of Dormeo Collapse Mattress air silver
http://www.dinos.com/en/p/1260100324/

Futon mattresses
http://global.rakuten.com/en/category/home_furniture/bedding/futon_mattresses/

Related articles (Japanese)
http://www.e-nemunoki.com/maniyukasiki.htm
http://www.kodawari-lab.com/item/206.html

>> No.10189416

fucking loled only poorfags sleep on the floor in asia

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>>10189416
It is not so in Japan.
Asia except Japan.

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>> No.10189566

>>10189557
>strangling plant
nothx.jpg

>> No.10189571

I sleep with my old ass mattress on the floor, and I have a sheet, a fleece blanket and a comforter layered over each other for warmth. I figure this is as close as I can get to a tradtional japanese futon without spending money.

When I have a house, I'll probably buy a good one. The most expensive part is the comforter. They can cost close to five hundred dollars for a silk lined, traditional blanket.

>> No.10189575

I'd want one of those couch/futon things, though I doubt it's very authentic. I don't really care about that though.

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Futon mattress

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http://www.flooring-huton.com/

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>> No.10189720

I have a mattress on the floor. It has certain appeal. Space efficient and simple.
There is this problem that there is black, spot-like "mold" or something weird like that in the back of the mattress.
I guess that can be solved by taking sheets out and refreshing the mattress by leaning it towards wall every morning.

>> No.10189731

>>10188362

As someone with a bad lower back, even bare hardwood floors are comfortable to me, and I've fallen asleep on mine many times. Squishy beds are my worst nightmare. I'm sure I could do the futon thing pretty easily.

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10189741

Here's my kawaii futon-san~

>> No.10189746

>>10189741
Can I sleep in there with you?

>> No.10189769

>>10189746
My dog probably wouldn't like that.

>> No.10189781

>>10189769
Why do you sleep beside dogs?

That's gross. You're gross.

>> No.10189798

>>10189769
Oh ok. I don't like the smell of dogs anyways

>> No.10189848

>>10189741
Is that a Nazi flag and an imperial Japan flag above that futon?

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10189869

>>10188834
We exist.

We have 1cc'd PCB on hard.

We are coming to fugg your waifu.

>> No.10189908

>>10189848
DDR and Imperial Japan.

>> No.10189909

western beds with frames are better because you can hide embarrassing shit under them. and when you're tired you don't have to fold out a bed, the bed is already there.
america: 1
niplands: 0. suck it weebs

>> No.10193410

>>10189571
>They can cost close to five hundred dollars for a silk lined, traditional blanket.

Horey shit. How do the Japanese afford them then?

>> No.10193421

>>10189909
>hide embarrassing shit under them
Who would you hide it from, it's not like you have any friends.

>when you're tired you don't have to fold out a bed
It takes 3 minutes to make my bed.

>> No.10193483

>>10193410
It's not hard to find a full set for more like $50-100 in Japan. It won't be silk lined or whatever, but it will work just as well.

>> No.10193492

>>10188662
I did this last night and it was more comfortable than my bed.
Such is the life of a convertible sofa owner.

>> No.10193509

>>10193421
>Who would you hide it from, it's not like you have any friends.
Yeah, 'hiding' stuff seems pretty pointless. But the fact remains that you can store things under a bed. You can't store anything on the floor-space you use for a futon.
If you have limited space, then using the same bit of your floor for both sleeping and storage seems like the best way to go.

But you can get frames for futons, in which case it's obviously a moot point.

>> No.10193564

>>10188407
sleeping on floor in NY
the rats will gnaw on you, I wouldn't put it past the roaches either.

>> No.10193630

>>10193564
Rats and roaches are both perfectly capable of getting into beds if they are so inclined.
A hammock might offer some protection, I guess.

>> No.10193680

>>10193509
Futon saves space on the vertical axis, that's what interest me the most.

Also bedframe are bulky and harder to move, and you can't fold them.

>> No.10193751

My back used to hurt so much during practice until I started sleeping on tatami mats+memory foam combo. After trying to sleep on my bed again, I just got rid of it

>> No.10193807

personally I just sleep on the floor. With a duvet and insulation sheet underneath

I try to live as minimally as possible, so that in the event of anything going terribly amiss financially, I will already be adjusted to low standards of living, without depending on materialism

Also, I find this more comfortable than cheap box spring mattresses, which have metal parts sticking into your sides and back. I can't afford those expensive ones.

I'd like to purchase a japanese style futon, but they are expensive and not widely available in this country. The idea of tatami is very appealing to me also. Natural, durable, long lasting, recyclable, easily cleaned and comfortable. Much better than a polyester carpet, and just what the world needs more of. I feel that we need to take a step back

>> No.10193816

>>10193807
Can I forcibly have sex with you hippie?

>> No.10193813

>>10193509
You're supposed to roll them up in the morning and clear them away into a cupboard, opening up the floorspace for other uses.

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>>10193816
I'm far from a hippie; and I would prefer consensual relations. In addition, you will find that I am not a homosexual. I apologise for any disappointment.

>> No.10193843

>>10193831
Hey, how else would it be forcible? Do you even know you make me feel exactly the opposite? Anyway, yes. You are a HIPPIE! You are.
>without depending on materialism
>and rest of your story
Hippy as fuck

>> No.10193858

>>10193843
Who are you quoting?

>> No.10193868

>>10193858
It says in quotation.

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>>10193843
whatever turbonerd asslord

>> No.10193918

I have a Japanese style futon which lays on the floor. The floor is carpet, which is not quite tatami floors, but is closer to them than hardwood is. Tatami is slightly soft, see.

Anyways, it's much more comfortable than a western style mattress is for me, because of how firm it is. Good for the back, but God help you if you decide to try to sleep on your side for whatever reason.

The one I have is filled with wool batting instead of cotton, which seems to be superior in every way. It resists mold and mildew much better than cotton does, so a wool futon doesn't have to be aired out every other week, which is good since I live someplace where it rains for the majority of the year. I still rotate and flip it every week, though. The wool is also warmer in cold weather, and is refreshingly cool in warm weather, and it doesn't soak up sweat like a cotton mattress.

Plus, wool is naturally fire retardant, and bedding is legally required to be fire retardant in America. For cotton and foam, that means lots of chemicals you don't want to sleep on. No such need for wool.

My futon came from http://www.dragonmama.com/ if anyone is interested.

>> No.10193927

>>10193917
You are kinda cute when you get angry.

>> No.10193931
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10193931

>>10193917
Careful, you're stepping into my brand of insult territory. You don't want to do that.

I'll defend my memes - no matter what it takes.

>> No.10193941

>>10193931
wait I thought you left forever
you even said you were going to

>> No.10193948

>>10193931
go away

>>10193918
>God help you if you decide to try to sleep on your side for whatever reason.

I sleep on my side without a mattress all the time. It's perfectly comfortable. What are you referring to?

>> No.10193959

>>10193931
Oh, how I wish you'd be back. You would just leave me again.

>> No.10193963

>>10193948
I normally sleep on my back. Sometimes I roll around in my sleep, however. When I wake up on my side, my shoulder tends to be sore for an hour afterwards.

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I like futon.

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