Touhou 13.5: 東方心綺楼 ~ Hopeless Masquerade Netplay Thread #15

[Anonymous No.]

Please use this thread to discuss and find matches for Touhou 13.5: Hopeless Masquerade.

The current version of the game is v1.03b, the patch can be found here: http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html#130612

The wiki can be found here: http://shinkirou.koumakan.jp/wiki/Touhou_Shinkirou

Previous thread: >>11040115

[Anonymous No.]

80.223.0.166:10800 Finland

[Anonymous No.]

(Repost for a friend who is AFK right now)

>>11068224
>Does someone already shared some replays or videos of interresting battles going on here? I'm not pretty good to perform combos and stuff, so I want to see how a real match goes on for my knowledge. Also, it's because I'm not able to play online.

He told me something about how Reimu and Marisa could be broken by using 8 brooms, and about combos who can deal +8k damage.
I'm kinda curious to see it in action too.

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>>11070490
Still hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone want a few take-it-easy matches? I'm not really into fighting games outside touhou so don't expect much!
50.133.212.119:10800 east coast

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070644
thank you to whoever I was playing earlier. good games~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070634
https://mega.co.nz/#!UwYmFaBa!SRtR8T4W3eGprCP0aHIpjhPRas9hXFMki9aQAAEMrgo
Here's the match OP picture is from, though I'm not sure exactly what kind of replays you're looking for. Other than the ridiculous ending it might not be that interesting, since nothing spectacular happens.

You can spectate people with the second connect option if you just want to watch normal matches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070490
GGs, first time I played against a Miko player.
Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070645
Good fights man, that was great. Think I'll let someone else have a turn now since we've been at it almost an hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070775
GGs, but it has to be a sign for me to stop after I get perfected in 3 out of 4 matches in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070775
GGs again. You started using that sword to punish my advances this time, so it became a lot harder to run into you and spam attacks. I think you should start using the corner to your advantage though, since most of the time you back off without using oki.

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>>11071041
I didn't really get to sleep last night so I wasn't really thinking of what I was doing with all the 5Bs.
Which also explains the last 4 rounds. But whatever, I'll just head to bed early tonight.
As for the oki, I wasn't even sure what it meant until now so I guess I'll try it out some other time.

[Anonymous No.]

75.177.129.197:7500 US East

[Anonymous No.]

50.135.157.148:10800
Still practicing Ichirin tier

[Anonymous No.]

121.67.245.25:10800 Korea
I wanted to play with foreign player so I come to 4chan ^ㅅ^

[Anonymous No.]

121.67.245.25:10800 Korea
Futo player. Is there any problem with my network?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071196
>121.67.245.25:10800

No.

[Anonymous No.]

88.112.94.107:10800
Finland
Tunnel vision tier

[Anonymous No.]

GGs Nanou, Ichirin is really scary. I keep wanting to graze Unzan's punches for some reason, haha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071141
GGs Hina, I think that's a good time to stop. A lot of those matches were very close. It's great how when two opponents have low health shit divulges into a danmaku throwing match.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
GGs Daiwod. Remember to block when your opponent has the advantage.
Continuing to host.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
ggs pluot
I'm starting to get tired. I'm suprised I even lasted that long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071635
GGs. Mamizou seems a lot better than everyone thought she was at first.

[Anonymous No.]

Oops, I hit b by accident. It seemed a bit laggy, but we can try a game or two if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071684
Are you the one who connected and the game froze while loading the stage? That often happens when the host has their game open for a long time waiting for a connection, and gets solved by restarting the game, so just rejoin if it happens.
Moderate lag is no problem for a short set of matches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071684
>>11071684
Hmm it's very sad to me that i can't play game with you because of lag..

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one who still plays hisoutensoku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072046

yes. anyone here who tells you they'll join a hisou game if you host is just pulling your leg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072046
no.

well, yes, but I also preferred hiso to the new one.
I still prefer MBAAC to hiso though.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you play?

I can't find anything that explains the controls. I'm stuck with just mashing random keys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072066
Did you figure what key does what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072074
I figured out that A does a basic attack so I just spam A

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072081
Good now figure out the rest
or just use the wiki that's in the OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072093
The controls listed on the wiki are wrong. It says B does heavy melee but when I press B nothing happens. Also S does some kind of special attack, wiki doesn't list S as a control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072113
They assume you aren't dumb enough to think that the default keys are scattered around the keyboard. They're not wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know how to get two gamepads to work?

I've been trying to get it to recognise my friends 360 pad for the last 45 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072129
you can use xpadder

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072135
Why didn't I think of that. Thanks, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072129

Gamespads? Got friends, you fucking faggot. {doesn't need a ? because it's fact} - i am drunk -

(For some reason tasofro are shit and you can't use two 360 pads. Use a different type of pad or something. We ended up with USB>ps2 adaptors)

[Anonymous No.]

216.154.82.61:10800
pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.]

50.133.212.119:10800
let's have fun~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072543
GGs, Pluot. Sorry to cut it short, but these lag spikes and disconnections are killing me. I'm sure it's my connection that's on the fritz again, so I'll play again some other time.

[Fue No.]

That was fun, FluffyRumia. I blew that Last Word spell. -_;;

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072709
i've been drinking as well~ d-does anyone want to play me???? pls respond ugh ;_;
IP IS 50.133.212.119:10800 OKAY YES

[Anonymous No.]

>>11073442
nevermind gonna play some mahjong
have gosdn nit p`

[Anonymous No.]

68.197.130.94:7501 Easy Coast

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

50.133.212.119 :10800
east coast

[Anonymous No.]

http://tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html#130622

[Anonymous No.]

Ver1.04-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<システム>
・ステージとBGMのランダムセレクトの不具合修正
・立ちスタンの最後を各種行動でキャンセル可能にしました
・ネットワーク対戦中にESCキーでキャラクターセレクトへ戻れるようにしました

<アイテム>
・魔女の箒の使い捨てダッシュ機能がなくなりました
・フォースシールド使用時のダメージ減衰効果を低下させました

<博麗霊夢>
・陰陽弾をグレイズできないことがある不具合を修正

<聖白蓮>
・ラストワードでKOした際の演出不具合を修正
・前ダッシュに被弾判定が不正にせり出す瞬間があった不具合を修正
・長距離前ダッシュの停止時にグレイズが短時間持続するよう調整
・短距離バックダッシュの停止モーションをガード可能に修正

<物部布都>
・ラストワードの地上炎上部分に不正な相殺判定が生じていた不具合を修正

<豊聡耳神子>
・バックダッシュの停止モーションをガード可能に修正
・X射撃に向きでの性能差があった不具合を修正

<河城にとり>
・前ダッシュの停止時にグレイズが短時間持続するよう調整

<二ッ岩マミゾウ>
・バックダッシュの停止モーションをガード可能に修正
・チキンガード性能が変更されていなかった不具合を修正
・分福熱湯風呂を出した後に被弾すると手下を消耗した不具合を修正
・前ダッシュの停止時にグレイズが短時間持続するよう調整
・X射撃の視認性改善
・鳥獣琵琶法師の視認性改善

[Anonymous No.]

And a blog post http://www.tasofro.net/cgi-bin/tasoblo/tasoblo.cgi?no=79

心綺楼Ver1.04を公開いたしました

今回は先に対応すべきと判断したバグ修正と
対戦環境の健全化のため急ぎ対応すべきの点に関し調整しました

方々でホットだった箒に関して、再調整を前提の上で
暫定的にアクティブ効果を封印する確実な手段を選択

立ちスタンからの防御側の不利が大きすぎる点に関しては
リバーサル行動を可能とすることで対応し
くらい逃げかガードかの二択以外の選択を取れる形へ

フォースシールドの弱体化に関しては
箒やスタンからの防御側選択の増加で試合時間が過剰に長くなる懸念からの調整
（同様の懸念は霊撃にもあったのですが、出す側にリスクがある関係で見送り）

といった理由となります
暫定対応という事で荒っぽい内容なのですが
ご理解いただけると幸いです

[Anonymous No.]

91.152.90.229:10800
Finland
Tunnel vision tier
1.04

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076340
Welp, couldn't get a grip on you. Those were really intense for me. Fun matches, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076562
GGs. I mostly played Ichirin instead of Marisa since I felt the matches were a lot more calculative and based on approaches when I used her, and more about chasing and pinning down with Marisa. The former seemed like a better option for both of us.
Try to use spellcards more. They're essentially handy if you're the one who gets into the hp range to use them faster, and you could probably hit a lot of them even at random against someone as recklessly aggressive as me. Against players who use spellcards a lot, I get hit by one at least every other game, usually more.
I had fun, so feel free to join again in the future if you want to have more matches.

Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076340
GGs Kaali. I can't believe I pulled off that 66A 5B 5X corner loop. It's only really good for training inputs since it's pretty tight, and I drop it maybe 80% of the time in practice.

Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076902
GGs, I can't believe how I kept getting caught by your B attacks over and over again.
Atleast I managed to win that 1 match thanks to the Nitori's item that I finally decided to add.
Oh and funny how you managed to get a combo to a declared spell card while Ichirin had her damage boost up for less damage than yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076931
The spellcard's punch placement is random, so you have to get lucky to get the godly damage. I don't think I was in corner for that damage boosted one either, and that reduces the damage a lot too. Pretty sure you also take less damage the less hp you have, so that's a factor as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076227
>>11076230
So much for the 1.04 patch being "more than just bugfixes". Where the fug is my playable Kokoro?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got a download link for the tracks from the music room? Can't seem to find the OST on google.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076227
>>11076230
waiting for dat translation..

btw Broom nerf so Nitori nerf GG

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072845
hostingu, kind of drunk

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078592
hit exit by accident, still hosting

[Anonymous No.]

Hina, are you not on 1.04? keeps sending us to char select...also nice icon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078617
sorry rumia, I think I was the one hitting exit this entire time. I use the ps2 analog stick and pressing L3 takes it back to the character select screen for some retarded reason. Also my game just froze so I think I'll just stop for now.

[Anonymous No.]

The screen was just pitch black, so I quit. First time doing anything online. Sorry.

I'm so embarassed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078687
Don't worry about it, it was my fault anyway. I was pressing whatever button it was that took us back to the character select screen. since I use ps2 analog, I think it was L3 that was doing it. This didn't happen before 1.04...

I'm not sure why Tasofro would add that option in to be honest. Seems like it'd encourage ragequits more than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078717
Okay. I'm happy to try again, if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078736
sure, I think I'll play only a few more though. I am pretty tired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078757
Trying to join again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078786
You were the one hosting...Unless you're not Rumia, then I've been talking to the wrong person this entire time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078810
I'm not Rumia! Whoops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078552
Broom nerf hit Ichirin harder than anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

After patching, the game runs at 32fps and half the buttons stop working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079349
For me it was like that before patching, but the patch fixed it.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone hosting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079503
Is there anything that can be done to improve the framerate in netplay? Feels impossible to play with 5fps and large input delay, when the single player is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079520
If single player is fine, netplay should also be fine as long as you have a decent connection and you're playing with someone who isn't too far from you.

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079534
So the framerate in netplay is dictated off latency? Well, that's unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079540
Yeah, it seems like past a certain point the game will stop setting the delay higher and start slowing the game down. Or maybe it just uses the same delay all the time and doesn't even try to guess at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079555
I see. Well, as someone who lives in a remote corner of the world, it's very dissapointing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Someone please onegai

[Anonymous No.]

>>11078552
>>11078895
What did they nerf about broom?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11081465
The active part is removed, though from the blog it sounds like it's just a temporary measure? Pretty heavy nerf even if it is just temporary though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11079349
>>11079380
Anyone else experiencing this?

[Anonymous No.]

feelio when your laptop can't handle this game

[Anonymous No.]

So the devs say they don't want to go on a patching spree and remove things like they did in swr and soku, but they remove broom already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11082834
To be fair, broom was kind of horrifically broken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of numbering these threads? My god, it pisses me off to no end when people do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11083443
GGs Kaali. Is it 5Y fucking up your spellcards from time to time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11083443
GGs as always, I was almost pulling my hair out on those missed spell cards because the 5Ys kept messing it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071141
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

ggs pluot. I am sorry for playing badly. I am drunk right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11085132
GGs, thanks for playing anyway.

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11076227
translate it weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088470

bugfixes, shield reduces less damage or something, and broom is useless now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071141
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088512
And you can now graze on wakeup from nontechable limits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088746

ggs nanou, that might've been the worst beating i've ever received. ichirin's normals are absolutely suffocating!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088746
GGs, Sauce. It seems you have a habit of trying to graze through all my spellcards. That's great if possible, but make sure you aren't too reckless. I know I caught you way more times than I should have when I threw oraoraora out.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/37359719

I love watching this guy's futo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089216

but it should be possible any time! i usually fuck up the timing, but that's something i'll hopefully get better at as i fight more ichirins; i don't think there's any other safe way for nitori to punish it, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089246
Fuuuck. Wish I could play Futo like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089246
Oh wow, Futo's pillar attack has a version where she moves forward a bit before rising?
I always had it mapped to 8c and used it like that. That would be fun to play around with, now that I have an empty slot from broom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089423
Still hosting Foolish, I just wanted to change options.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089439
Controller started failing. I'm still hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089439
Well I forgot how to play this game
Must of been soku

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089423
GGs Foolish. Sorry for all the DCs, but this one is for real. Soku destroyed me the last time I went back to it also, it'll clear up with a little play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089525
Well damn
Guess I'll wait for another EC host to host

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089532
Actually I can play Maribel, I thought I had to leave. I'll host for you if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089525
Lol I think you're still accidentally hosting, Renee.
I was just testing and ended up joining. Sorry, just thought I'd let you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089539
>Maribel
Not that player
But I'm good for today

[Anonymous No.]

71.37.12.207:10800

it's your friendly neighborhood us west nitori

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089785
Roflmao GGs Secret.
Lol I don't get to play this enough. The lag + my own inherent suckage just made for all kinds of derps, dropped combos, being baited...
Good times, good times. I had fun. Play again some other time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089785

ggs octopus! sorry for that ultra-laggy last match, i think my roommate just got home and is destroying my bandwidth. you started doing a lot better near the end of our set, punishing a lot more of my shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11090068
Lol Thanks. I did start to pick up on what I needed to do/ not do, but my biggest problems are still getting baited by that oh-so-good wrecking ball and just not reacting fast enough by mere frames.
Your defense is so good. If you aren't jump-spamming, your blocking pretty much everything. Half of my failed combos were because I didn't expect actual hit-confirm Lol.
Thanks for beating the crap out of me for a bit; I need the practice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

Hosting
184.175.34.153:10800
Canda East

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088746
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

GGs Foolish. I am really sad that I whiffed that Last Word because I thought that I missed the combo ender and lost because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11090212
ggs nanou. sorry about resetting those matches. Sometimes I get a bit too excited and hit L3 by accident. I wish I could remap that button or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11090410
GGs, Hina. I didn't even know there was a reset button. I thought the game was just bugging out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11090108
ggs pluot
I didn't know you subbed Byakuren.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11090487
GGs. I only picked her up a couple of days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone else had this issue? Google is no help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088746
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.
Hopefully there are Europeans on today. Going without a single game yesterday was suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11092962
GGs. Jesus christ your corner pressure is brutal. I should work on not getting trapped in that.
I should also learn to actually play Koishi, she's tons of fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11093313
GGs. I felt like a zombie every time I dropped a combo or mistimed my oki, which was something like half the time.
The key to corner pressure is to wait it out and find a way to escape. You don't always have to counterattack, though with my play like that it was a pretty good strategy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11088746
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11092962
GGs Quwanti. You probably need to figure out some higher damage Futo combos, since even when I got hit a lot, I lost very little hp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089785

hosting for a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11093525
Yeah. It's really hard though. I'm barely able to do a stun combo.

>>11093899
Gah, sorry about that. Didn't expect to have it like that. Previously haven't had any problems with other region's.

[Anonymous No.]

how do i remap keys in options, the game keeps freezing

[Anonymous No.]

50.133.212.119:10800
EC

[Anonymous No.]

>>11093899
GGs Secret. Those matches were a lot of fun :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11093999

s'alright. your ichirin looked pretty sick despite the lag, anyway.

>>11093899

ggs octopus! your futo is looking better and more aggressive from yesterday; once you get her limit combos down, you'll probably do very well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094229
GGs Rumia, sorry for the lag. Don't forget to pushblock away when you're stuck in a corner.

[Anonymous No.]

Port forwarded, hopefully it will work.

83.87.199.241:10800 Dutchland

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094385
Not working for me, friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094409
scratch that, it's just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094229 rehosting da ze~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089785

hosting some more

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094229
Too much lags and it seems it crash.
But ty and ggs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094779
GGs. Sorry about the lag and all that. Only wanted a few matches, and only people far away tend to be hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094815

ggs again, octopus; it looks like my client keeps crashing, so i'm just going to call it quits for now.

your miko suddenly became super solid! i guess i can't just throw things out anymore and expect them not to get beat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094815
GGs again, Secret. My program crashed, but that's probably a good place for me to stop for tonight.
Whatever early victories I had were completely undeserved, but I really started to finally feel comfortable during our later matches. It's taking me a long time since I don't get to play with people all the time, but I'm finally starting to get a feel for what is safe and what isn't.
Hope to play again another time :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11095097
And one final bit of information I shouldn't tell you, you could actually probably stand to throw out more cucumbers. I fucking hate those things, and I fall for them all the time. Especially when I get baited into doing Miko's slow moves, like the pain circle or whiffed swords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094966
GGs.

I learn a lot when I play against you, what's good and what's not. Looking forward to the future matches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11094966
GGs. Your Futo was quite a bit different from the one I fought a few hours ago.

Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

107.195.34.230:1497 US South, version 1.04

I like to 5B at people

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[MyHatIsMyFriend No.]

*lurk*
>:3
Gonna host tomorrow, more looking to join matches. Any one US east that isn't busy~?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096367
Why do you post the way that you do

[MyHatIsMyFriend No.]

>>11096404
Normality is boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096428
Am I being played here or are you really doing this

[MyHatIsMyFriend No.]

>>11096433
Does the pope wear a funny hat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096428
Are you a teenage girl

[MyHatIsMyFriend No.]

>>11096437
I am you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096209
GGs, Pluot. It's super annoying sharing a hit-box with Unzan. Punching a bullet only to get stunned and open to combos is the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096446
GGs. It's too bad we've been getting so many lag spikes. I'd really like to try playing Nitori against your Ichirin in an actual game.

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever tried to connect, are you patched to 1.04?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11089785

hosting some games before i pass out for the night

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096452
GGs Pluot. Sorry for having you play laggy games for a while, but they were really fun, so I didn't want to stop right away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096663
GGs. When it's that laggy it's almost nice sometimes because it's so easy to hitconfirm. And thanks for the Marisa combos, I'll try to use some of them instead of my 5x 5x 5x combo if I ever play her again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096639

fuck, looks like i still can't go toe-to-toe with your ichirin. ggs, though.

still hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096639
GGs, Sauce. It's hard to initiate Ichirin due to UNZAN STRONG UNZAN SPAM, but if you geyser spam then I can't go on the offensive as much. I'd probably hit the geyser on accident and fuck myself over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096751
GGs. Shame about the lag but hella fun anyways. Lets try again sometime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096751

ggs, renee! it seems like we'll never be able to get a great connection, but doing a long-ish set with you was great. i have to try not getting read so often on wakeup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096882
Just pushblock everything on wakeup and you'll be halfway to mastering the Byakuren matchup. There shouldn't be any reads involved, since everything but blocking will lose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096901

the reads come after the pushblock! and sometimes i'd do stupid shit like think "oh, i'm waking up now, guess i better pushblock" but nitori would already be starting her tech so i'd end up coming out with A instead.

dunno, maybe i'm just tired but i felt like the match ended every time you got me into the corner

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096924
Since Byakuren isn't Nitori, she can and will run out of spirit very fast if she tries to keep up pressure while you pushblock, so just wait until she does and then getting out of the corner should be straightforward. Her pressure really isn't anything scary. If anything, it's her neutral (read: super confirms) that you should be afraid of, and even that's not too scary because Byakuren just isn't very good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096947

it's not that i think byakuren is some kind of pressure monster or something, i was just saying i thought your aggression was well-timed and it seemed like you'd usually know what i'd try to get out with in the corner. byakuren may be the meiling of HM but you make her look good.

[Anonymous No.]

107.195.34.230:1497 US South, version 1.04

Early morning sleepies tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11097431
Good games, 'Pineapple'.
Sorry for being lame.

[Anonymous No.]

No fun allowed http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21148496

[Anonymous No.]

>>11097785
Some IRCfag did that to me. It was awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071141
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11097785
>that fucking broom

[Anonymous No.]

>>11098258
I take it this is why tasofro nerfed it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11096961
That wasn't me (Renee) responding to you sauce. Sorry I headed straight to bed after our set.

>>11096947
I don't know who you are but my wake up pressure varies a lot. With staggers, charge moves and my b moves it's not hard to confirm on someone that is anxious to get out the corner. And no I won't run out of spirit. Even if I do I usually still get a confirm off, I just can't limit. Secret knows what he's doing and it isn't as simple as "pushblocking" on wake up, although that is the first step. I'm not really sure if I can offer many tips on escaping my pressure, but patience will help. In the end all I can do is attempt spirit damage if you just block, that would probably be the easiest time to escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11098172
ggs pluot

Those were some silly sets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11098470
GGs. That red cape 8b is insane.

[Anonymous No.]

what do the tiers for this game look like? I see people saying Byakuren isn't good, but I thought she was pretty decent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11098993

i guess that's a matter of opinion. here's my take on it:

S+: Marisa
S: Reimu, Nitori
A+: Ichirin
A: Mamizou, Miko
B+: Byakuren, Koishi
Suwako Tier: Futo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099034
GGs. Was the lag really that bad when you last connected? I don't remember the matches being that slow.

Still hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

GGs Relial. Sorry if the lag was too much for you; I was just sort of seeing who was hosting. It was fun, though :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099071
>futo
>suwako tier
r u avin a giggle m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099071
I'm curious why you think Byakuren isn't all that good. It's been awhile since I've fought one, and I don't really play her myself, but whenever I spectate matches or used to fight them, they seemed pretty fucking legit. She's got good normals and her speed is pretty fast; what's so bad about her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099071
Isn't Reimu better than Marisa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099150

Her normals are fast, but most of them don't cover a whole lot of space, so she seems to get bullied by characters with bigger normals unless you're careful about your movement. Her dash seems like it's as much of a problem as it is a useful tool, since opponents can preempt it with a heavy attack or use X or Y to autocorrect if Byakuren goes behind them.. Then again, I'm not exactly the God of Touhou so don't take my post too seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099232

You tell me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099235
Yeah you aren't too correct on any of those points. Byakuren is weak because her damage often can't keep up with the rest of the cast (her easy confirms barely break 2.5) and has the same weakness as China when it comes to bullet play. Pressure is hard to build in this game but Byakuren does well if you can pull it off. If you can't you're stuck half confirming off normals. Her dash is godly and has none of the problems you attempt to attribute to it. It has been buffed twice since release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099280

>her easy confirms barely break 2.5

Isn't that like half the cast?

>Her dash is godly and has none of the problems you attempt to attribute to it. It has been buffed twice since release.

I've seen people do both those things to her dash. I haven't been keeping up with the changelogs but I was under the impression they were all bugfixes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099071
>A+ Ichirin
nah, her and Mami or Miko should swap places...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099348
Now you know that her dash was buffed. Just know that you cannot punish or read the dash itself anymore.

2.5 damage is half the cast? Yeah... no. I'm not sure what players you've been fighting though. And I was being generous saying her easy confirms break 2.5k. I forgot to mention the whole loading thing, which is partially why it's difficult to combo with Byaku. She also can barely limit if she doesn't have a card loaded.

Don't get me wrong, I am barely complaining and I love my character the way she is. I'm just pointing out her weaknesses to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099235
I'm going to counter your "small normals" argument with: Miko. Let's face it, she got he short end of the stick for most of her physical attacks. Byakuren at least can hit people above her with a physical attack consistently; doing that with Miko takes a miracle or a well-placed 66A. Not to mention that if you Byakuren messes up those physicals, her 5X can actually home while it cancels to continue decent pressure. And if you're comparing her normals to Marisa and Nitori, then don't. Everyone loses to them in that regard.
Her dash /can/ be problematic since you /have/ to go a set distance when you activate it, but it's not really that big of an issue. It's raw speed and spammability make it at least as usable as any other dash. Plus her standard movement speed is high to make up when you just need to re-position yourself normally.
And for damage, that's what that ridiculously easy to land spell card is all about. Proration may drop its value fast, but it still hits like a flock of knife wielding doves driving a truck.
I'll admit that she's no Reimu, but don't lock her down in the dungeon with the low tiers yet. (I'm not even sure I would consider Koishi low- I think she just takes some SERIOUS adjusting to, which I have admittedly not done yet.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099395
>Byakuren at least can hit people above her with a physical attack consistently; doing that with Miko takes a miracle or a well-placed 66A.
8B and swords above level 0 if they count as melee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099395
You cannot "counter" his argument by saying "mikos are wayy wose!" Also he was flat out wrong about her normals not covering range. Only Marisa has ever flat out beat my normals in range. Byaku normals are insane and her major strength. Her 5a is fast and good coming from below but if your opponent haa a 5a that's good from above you won't be seeing 5a's land anytime soon.

Landing spell cards require you to get your ass beat, or beat so much ass that they barely have a chance at coming back. They should never be fully relied on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099413
They count as shots. It brings me great suffering T_T
And 8B hits mainly in front of her- she and Futo have no real practical physical attack for hitting above them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099394

I'm going based off of the combos posted on the wiki. Maybe some people here have some secret tech that they aren't sharing but I'm not aware anyone outside of Marisa, Reimu, Nitori and Ichirin can do much more than that off of "easy confirms."

>>11099395

I'm not saying she isn't viable, but how many characters is she better than? It's hard to tell since I haven't seen any other tier lists in these threads and there's like two consistent Byakuren players here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099429
The only reason I called it a "counter" is because that was part of his argument for her position in his list. I was simply stating that Miko's /are/ worse, so /her/ position on the list above Byakuren confused me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099436
What about cloud fist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099436
I hit people above me with 8B all the time. When it hits from underneath it knocks them behind you but it still hits.
Plus you could just teleport above them or behind them but that's a little risky.

>>11099444
>I'm not aware anyone outside of Marisa, Reimu, Nitori and Ichirin can do much more than that off of "easy confirms."
Miko has a decent amount of ~3k combos you can land off of 66A and 5AAA. Pretty sure they only work at max cape level but they exist and they're pretty easy to confirm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099444
Oh, I think all the characters are viable. The game is... well, kinda balanced for coming out of the gates. I don't expect it to be perfectly even across the board, but it holds up pretty well.
As for who is worse/ better? Well... I don't have exact figures to give, but I would probably say that Reimu and Marisa are over-all better, with Nitori being a likely candidate for the same. I have trouble gauging Ichirin, but if she can get rolling on dealing damage, then I would probably say she's better. That of course depends on the player, which makes my speculation completely worthless.
I would probably say Mamizou and Miko are definitely worse overall, but are still playable for sure. Koishi, like I said, can be great, but is awkward, so I'm not really sure. As for Futo... I kind of think her damage output is a little low, so I'll put her below Byakuren, I guess. But I also sucking at comboing with her.

>>11099467
If that's physical, then I need to equip it right the fuck now. I thought it was a shot attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099505
You clearly didn't play the game enough if you think Miko is one of the worse, Marisa one of the best and thinking that it's balanced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099665
Yeah, you're probably right. I've seen some Miko's that kick ass, and she certainly deals the damage when she connects her hits. I probably just suck too much myself, so maybe I'm being too biased.
I guess I'm just focusing on how small a lot of her hitboxes are, coupled with the fact that a lot of her moves take some anticipation or you leave yourself vulnerable for fucking ever on whiff. Again, I also suck, though, so I'm not great at 5X cancelling all my missed shit like better people.

>>11099503
I am jealous of your ability to hit people above you with 8B. I try and try, but its hitbox is barely short enough vertically for me to fair miserably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099665
Miko loses most of her higher damage combos when her cape isn't red since the ring and 6[6]A become pretty useless and it becomes a lot harder to land 8B/2B. If you slip up and don't get the first hit or have problems dealing with pressure and barely ever get to max cape level she's not that good but red cape Miko is really strong.
Ranking Miko is pretty hard because of the cape mechanic. She's as good as the person playing her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099755
Lol True. If I get on a roll, she can be pretty terrifying, but come purple cape and the game gets a lot harder for me. She needs those longer hit-stuns for some real damage.
To be fair, ranking most of the characters is a pretty daunting task.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071141
Hosting

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>>11099852
GG, Pluot. I don't know how I managed to get a last word in that round with how poorly I was playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099852
GGs, but that was even worse than usual.

Also, even if the delay makes it hard to time meaties, you really shouldn't get in the habit of pressing buttons on wakeup.

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone up for soku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100068
Sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099852
GGs Nanou. Picking up Futo? She's really fun. Koishi vs Futo looked pretty bad for Futo though, hope you can make her work! Her hitbox is annoyingly small, I can barely combo her midscreen...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11099852
GGs, Hina. I think I'm going to spend some time in practice so I can figure out some actual Futo combos. This hit and run shit can only get me so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100105
Okay, 2 games in a row where my program crashes is a sign to let it go for tonight. I like playing with you Relial, but it's just not gonna happen tonight.
GGs for what we got to play, though. Wish we could do more :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100280
GGs. Shame there's no helping the delay.

>>11071305
Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11070480
Are there any japanese streams or videos I can watch on nico nico or another website that I can just watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100359
Earlier in the thread someone posted a link to a guy that plays Futo. You could also try spectating some of the fine folks here. If you want more than that, I can't help you at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100359
Just search for 東方心綺楼 on nico, there are tons.
I've been enjoying this guy's stuff lately: http://www.nicovideo.jp/user/25362498

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100380
Alright thanks. Is there an english patch in the works or at least a screen capped image of the menus so I can learn how to connect and adjust various settings?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100385
Looks interesting thanks for the suggestion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100431
There's a link to the wiki in the OP, it's got everything you need.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
GGs. I just don't know what to do when I get walled... I feel like as soon as you get a jab in I'm being comboed for the rest of the match

I really should try to learn some combos for times I actually DO get openings...

[Anonymous No.]

107.195.34.230:1497 us south, 1.04

the lamest little byakuren in all the west

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100470
GGs. When you're in the corner you should pushblock and look for an opening to jump out. When I was playing Nitori, you would tend to either press buttons after a close grappling hook or not pushblock my autocombo, letting me stay close enough to close in again with hook. If you pushblock her autocombo (not the first one when you wake up with the lock-on missile, but the one after that) then she only has a few weaker options to keep you under pressure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100431
english patch is in the works at shrinemaiden. No eta as of now but progress is being made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071141
Hosting
Practicing Futo tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100488
Good games, pluot.
Sorry for being so mashy, I got a little excited. I haven't fought a Nitori or Miko ever since the game came out, so it was really neat. I really had no idea what to do against Nitori, though..
I hope I performed satisfactorily enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11101023
GGs. I haven't played Miko much, so I hope beating me up wasn't too dull. Your Byakuren was interesting, though. I've never seen anyone run Unzan pot on her or use that white aura move before, so I wasn't quite sure what to do either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11101106
It wasn't dull at all, except for maybe those times where it seemed like you were saying "kill me" when you were stuck with bluecape and no health. ^^;
I run the pot so I'm not stuck midscreen without something to do if I don't buffer something (which is often, since I kind of forget her skills are there sometimes..).
That little burst thingie is really helpful for robbing Miko of her redcape toys if she gets too zealous, which is nice, although it's kinda easy to bait since it's a bullet and the duration of it is so short. Neat hitbox, though, and the hitstun is absurd. Now only if it dealt good spirit damage..
I can see now why people were talking about Nitori's corner pressure; I really couldn't find a way to pushblock you away once you started that grapple loop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11101123
The loop only worked because you kept not pushblocking the first few hits of my autocombo. If you pushblock all of them Nitori will be too far away to catch jumps and mashing with grapple. Her corner pressure is strong, but it's not inescapable.

I was too afraid of your 2b to risk grazing it anyway, but I somehow didn't realize that the white burst was grazable. I guess that explains why it seemed so strong. I'll try to use that the next time I see it.

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11101154
GGs Pluot. Miko!!!! Did you replace byaku as your second or are you gonna play both of them? Anyways I'm excited to see what kinda crazy stuff you gonna do with her!

[Anonymous No.]

107.195.34.230:1497 us south, 1.04

will-probably-doze-off-during-supers-tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

How do I declare my spellcard in an actual game? I read the wiki and all is fine during training but I can't do it in a vs com or anything out of training.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103507
Health bar

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103340
Whoops, my game crashed. GGs Nanou, your Futo certainly got a lot better. Fighting her is pretty tiring since she's so fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103651
GGs Hina, I think I did a lot better than last time. I still can't get use to her short range, but I guess that's because I'm too use to Ichirin. I wish I could better timing spellcards, though. Getting sucked into yours after whiffing is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11102751
rehostan in hopes that people still aren't sleeping

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103778
Sorry Byakuren player, but it looks like my connection is on the fritz right now. Some other time maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103839
Oh, it's quite alright.

>>11102751
Rehosting again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072845
hosting now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11090155
Hosting

[blaster_rifle No.]

>>11103876
ggs
You can punish my super when I whiff. And don't mash if I get you with an untechable limit combo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
Hosting

[blaster_rifle No.]

>>11103965
Sorry game crashed
but ggs!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11072845
GGs. I really wish I knew a similar combo to that Down Wrench spin followed up by the spring wall slam and grenade... Got a bit laggy by the end there so I figured I would call it there.

[Anonymous No.]

ggs Hime!! sorry if it was my connection that was lagging.. It was fun~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103876
rehosting~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104121
still here~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103855
whoops, accidentally pressed cancel out of game
I think that's a good place to stop, though. ^^;

Hm.. I should probably be less predictable, you were reading me throughout the entire set, easy (either that or I happened to run into things at the worst of times..).
What do the popularity auras do, if anything? Do they make you gain/lose popularity faster or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104198
GGs. If you mean the blue and red auras, I think those affect spirit damage, but I'm not sure if they do anything else. And I may have been a little, but I didn't feel like I was really reading you. I was just running around doing 8b and buffering things until one of them hit. If you noticed my blocked 8b's into supers that was because I was just buffering super hoping it would land. Your pressure seemed a bit static, though. You might want to do more staggered 5a stuff.

[blaster_rifle No.]

>>11103986
Ggs!
That 66a plate fireball combo so hard to punish. Man you were running everywhere too I got so frustrated XD. Very fun.
That last word too. GIANT FLASH -> Futo gets hit

[Anonymous No.]

GGs, Rifle. You got a lot better in the last few fights when you started to punish me for my flying around shit.
>>11103986
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104231
Hm.. I see. How high is the vertical range on redcape 8B, anyways? I always got pegged with it when I thought I was out of range and got CH or something.
Alright, I'll try to see how I can do that. Renee did it a lot, so I think I'll just borrow some of that.. (also, good games)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104274
GGs Pluot, my internet crashed so I guess I'm done for now. That bullet and somersault spam you use is quite something. Every head on clash basically resulted in you counter-hitting me. A little peeved to learn Futo's 'Floor is Lava' last word can't kill the opponent, but what can ya do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104454
GGs. When I had red cape they would counterhit you, but whenever I didn't I just got counterhit every time because Futo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11103986
Hosting again

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone here plan on going to CEO this weekend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104827

I plan on watching it, anyway. Please force your way into the commentator's booth and viral HM to thousands of people online.

[Anonymous No.]

where can i find a download link to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hT4Y2dTU-k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104919
Wrong thread to ask
Try google

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104919
Not here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104701
GGs Quwanti. To get out of corners, look for holes in what I do and escape during them. You were dashing down almost every time, so that's what I was looking to punish. At the very end you actually dashed up when I went for a 2B, but came back down to get hit by the followup instead of flying over me, which would've given you an advantage with my back close to the corner.
You should also remember to hold block out of untechable limits.

>>11071305
Rehosting.

[Anonymous No.]

How the hell do I play this, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11105141
press x not to die

[Anonymous No.]

>Grind all day for Lagombi+ set because I'm using LR barroth armor this whole time and I really want that evade extend for the 8 star village quests
>mfw I see the distance on my new roll
It was all worth it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11105174
ggs pluot. Miko's 8b is no joke, I kept underestimating her damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11105444
GGs. It felt like a joke every time I 8b'd into your 5x! I really have no idea how to approach that. If only 66a grazed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11104948
Jesus christ three hours. That was way too much fun.
Thanks for the lesson on corner pressure with Ichirin, I feel like I might have learned a little too much. Your Ichirin is a complete monster in corners. I think I managed to pick up a lot about breaking out of corner pressure though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11105456
My friend also plays Miko and he has a lot of trouble with B-Koishi's 5x as well. I really don't know what to tell you unfortunately, because I don't think Miko is fast enough to catch Koishi on the startup of it like Ichirin. I guess you could try to outzone her, but that only works for so long. It'd be nice if graze attacks existed!

I wouldn't mind if B-Koishi 5x got nerfed, because it's an incredibly brainless move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11105522
GGs. Holy shit I'm exhausted. I was really glad when you started blocking on wakeup. Seeing someone adapt to play better feels nice, and I got plenty of practice for oki timing. Now I just need to hone my Marisa's corners.
It's a shame Ichirin's style seems to fit me much better than Marisa's, since Marisa is a lot more fun to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11105564
Yeah, I played pretty much nothing but Ichirin during the demo which might explain why I managed to beat you with her a few hours earlier than with Miko, but she just feels like she has a lot less energy than the rest of the cast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071106
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

50.133.212.119:10800
several days without sleep tier
EC

[Anonymous No.]

>>11106954
is there no one here? I guess so..

[Anonymous No.]

>>11106954
ggs fluffy rumia

Thanks for the games. They were fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11106954
thanks for playing, to the person I just played~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11106098
Rerehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11107166
ggs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11107285
GGs

>>11107166
Rererehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11106954
hosting~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

Everybody on the IRC now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11109682
All 5 of us who still play this game

[Anonymous No.]

>>11109682
I'm not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11109682

no, just busy with other things today.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone host near Australia?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone host anywhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11112419

i swear i'll start hosting again after the weekend!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11112419
IRC lobby and here. I find most of my games on IRC. I'd host if you don't mind me afking for 3 mins ever so often.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11112776
God damn your Koishi does damage. I caught a lot of breaks but sometimes even they weren't enough. GGs HIna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11113209
GGs Renee, your Byakuren does a lot of damage too. I pretty much have to play super defensively when you declare so I don't get hit by your 8b like an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11074029
hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11107294
Rerererehosting

[Anonymous No.]

GGs Quwanti

>>11074029
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>11071305
Hosting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11113729
Still hosting!

[Anonymous No.]

>>11100593
Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

did anyone ever post sprites for the background characters? i know there's already a gif of orin dancing but i wanted some of the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11114200
GGs Nanou. My laptop's battery is dying, and I probably ought to call it a night anyways.
Lol We used to at least be kind of roughly the same skill, with you being better overall, but now it's hardly even a contest. You've obviously been practicing/ playing, and it's paying off. The fact that you've gotten better with so many characters is a testament to your improvement :)
In particular, I need to "practice" against Ichirin. Fighting her is pretty brutal.
Good work, and play again some time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11114852
GGs, Octopus. It's been awhile since I've played against you, but it looks like your Miko has improved quite a bit. I recommend that you be more aggressive, though. In a lot of the rounds you would retreat to the other side every time I reached you. Escaping pressure is good, but running away so often lowers popularity quite a bit, and I know I managed to beat you through popularity in a few rounds thanks to that. Ya just gotta fight fire with fire, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone gonna make a new thread or should I just learn to use IRC