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VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Dec 21 22:03:36 2013 No.11729302 [Reply] [Original]

Visual Novel translation status

12Riven- 35.5/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
Ace Attorney Investigations 2 - translation: 100%, editing 75%, case 1 and 2 released
Air (Project 1)- Released 2nd Beta patch and 70% edited
Air (Project 2) - 97.48% translated
Amaenbo - Being translated
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "423/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (~21.5%)"
>Anniversary no Kuni no Alice - 49% translated, 27% edited
Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: roughly 53% (588 KB of 1.12 MB)"
Ayakashibito - Fully translated, 36956/50995 (72.47%) lines edited, Touko route done
>Cannonball - 27593/36902 (74.77%) lines translated
>Chichi Miko - Fully translated, 15% edited
>Chichi Miko Plus 1 - Fully translated and edited
>Cocoro Function - 1018/55219 (1.84%) lines translated
Comyu - 32142/51433 (62.49%) lines translated, common/Benio route partial patch out, Hisoka route fully translated
Danganronpa 2 - 16.1% translated
Dote up a Cat - 32.2% translated
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 73.9% validated, third partial patch out
Flyable Heart- 14.61% translated in new translation project
Fortune Arterial- Prologue completly translated, patches for Shiro, Kiriha and Kanade routes released. Erika route 65% done. Haruna route 80% done.
Gensou no Avatar - ~15% translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Yahiro 4.99% translated, Kozue 20.85% translated
Hatsuyuki Sakura (project 1) - Between 10 and 15% translated
Hatsuyuki Sakura (project 2) - 5.57% translated
Higanbana 2 - Delayed until sometime "this winter"
Hinomaru- 51% translated, common route patch released

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Dec 21 22:03:52 2013 No.11729303

>I/O - Fully translated. 227/249 scripts and all tips edited, 123/249 scripts through 1st QC
Irotoridori no Sekai - 43,365/51,100 (84.86%) lines translated, going through revision, partial patch going through chapter 6 planned
Killer Queen: 43/72 scripts translated and 18/72 scripts edited, plans also include translating Secret Game and Rebellion
Koichoco- 285/397 files translated, 181/397 files edited, Common/Chisato/Satsuki routes fully translated
>Koiken Otome - 64.94% translated, 63.93% through second pass
Kourin no Machi - 13691/36959 (37.0%) lines translated
Kud Wafter - 10801/33132 (32.6%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 60% translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated
Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 85% translated
Majikoi A- Sayaka patch released, Benkei 65% translated, Koyuki 20% translated
Majikoi S- Monshiro, Margit, Kokoro, and Tsubame routes patch out, Momoyo 44% translated, 44% edited
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - 830.20/1221.01 (67.99%) kb translated
Mashiro Iro Symphony - Common route 93.98% Translated
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Nursery Rhyme - 13465/34410 (39.13%) translated
>Oreimo PSP - 258/299 scripts translated, 175/299 through TLC+Editing, 137/299 scripts finalized, Kirino partial patch released
>Oreimo Tsuzuku - Youtube based project, Kirino part 23.5, Ayase part 23
PersonA - 36% translated
Photo Kano - 10/3279 Files translated
Princess Maker 5- ~90%, translation progress stalled while putting together a beta patch
Pure Pure- Fully translated, 77.26% edited

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Dec 21 22:04:51 2013 No.11729308

>Rance 4.1 - 32% translated
Rance 5D- 85% complete, awaiting engine tools
Rance 6 - 53% Complete
Rose Guns Days 3 - 5% translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 3341/14309 (23.3%) lines translated
>Seitenkan - 86/528kb (16.2%) translated
Shuukaku no Juunigatsu winter - 80% translated, 42% edited, trial version out
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- Fully translated and edited
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 10- 16/18 scripts translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 42902/53562 (80.1%) lines translated and 40597/53562 (75.8%) lines edited
Sukisho! - First Limit - 58% translated
Supreme Candy - 9559/43261 (22.1%) lines translated
Tenshin Ranman - Prologue patch released, 1829.2/4560 (40.1%) translated
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
>Walkure Romanze - Translation starting up
>White Album 2 - Overall: 7517/70253 (10.69%) lines translated, Introductory Chapter: 7517/10769 (69.8%) lines translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 54% edited, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 19.78%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 61.99% Motoka 24.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Your Diary- Prologue patch released, common route fully translated, 11/19 scripts translated for Yua's route, 1/10 scrpts translated of Kanade's route

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Dec 21 22:06:06 2013 No.11729310

Official work

MangaGamer
>Ef: The Latter Tale - Released
>Valkyrie Svia - Jan 24th release
Chou Dengeki Stryker - In scripting
D2B vs Deardrops - In scripting
Really? Really! - Scripting complete, in UI and CG editing, Demo version complete
Milles - Fully translated and edited
Imouto Paradise - Fully translated, 99% edited
>Princess Evangile - 89% translated, 77% edited
Boob Wars 2 - It testing
Cartagra - Initial TL going through revision, 6 H-scenes remain to be revised
Kara no Shoujo 2 - picked up
>Armored Warrior Iris - Fully translated and edited
>Space Pirate Sara - 40% translated, 34% edited
>Free Friends - 64% translated, 32% edited
Free Friends 2 - Picked up
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue 17% translated, 1.4% translated overall
>Higurashi (retranslation) - 47% of Onikakushi TL, 7% edited

JAST
Steins;Gate - Winter release planned
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Being translated by Aroduc
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- In translation
Romanesque - In translation
Shiny Days - Sekai project to do the TL
Osadai fandisc - In Translation
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Other
Danganronpa - NISA in early 2014
>Moenovel is working on another title
Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over
The Night of Kamaitachi - release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:06:21 2013 No.11729311 The best time of the week has arrived!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:07:36 2013 No.11729316 Hello, we must save these old threads from 2004, guys. They are a part of 4chan's history. Don't let these old threads die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:10:37 2013 No.11729320 Is F/HA finally happening?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:12:51 2013 No.11729324 >>11729302 >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated Oh my.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:14:36 2013 No.11729329 >>11729324 >>11729320 100% translated, 75% checked. So it'll be back down to 80% soon enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:15:06 2013 No.11729336 >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated The first sign of the end times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:16:36 2013 No.11729339 >>11729329 You don't have to explain the obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:17:36 2013 No.11729344 File: 8 KB, 350x237, ginji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 73.9% validated, third partial patch out Can't wait for the installer

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:19:22 2013 No.11729348 Why did they stop translating Princess Maker 5 for a partial patch? They would have already finished by now if they didn't stop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:20:06 2013 No.11729353 >>11729320 Nope, the site got trolled and some anon posted random crap in the unfinished lines.

Arunaru !!DwJrPrzAV2M Sat Dec 21 22:27:51 2013 No.11729370

If anyone here's interested, I'm translating Kichikuou Rance now, aiming to be done sometime late next year. Progress will be posted occasionally at:

http://arunarutranslatescrap.wordpress.com/translations-and-progress/

I'm the guy that translated the Toushin Toshi games, for whoever cared about those.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:35:07 2013 No.11729377 File: 743 KB, 801x601, OMFG.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729370 Awesome, and keep up the work! The world needs more AliceSoft.

>>	Lv1 Translator Sat Dec 21 22:35:22 2013 No.11729378 Sweet, thanks for adding me to the list, VNTS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:35:52 2013 No.11729380 >>11729377 He says posting a machine translation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:37:07 2013 No.11729386 File: 55 KB, 1871x167, 1387673857585.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:37:08 2013 No.11729384 >>11729320 I waited so long for this I don't even care anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:37:22 2013 No.11729385 >>11729380 I don't have many Rance pictures man. Also, that battle was a bitch. Death was stupidly hard to defeat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:52:07 2013 No.11729406 >>11729370 I loved the first Toshin Toshi. and I'll get to the second eventually. Good luck with your new translation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 22:59:52 2013 No.11729418 >Chichi Miko - Fully translated, 15% edited >Chichi Miko Plus 1 - Fully translated and edited Does this mean that MangaGamer is no longer buying the translation for these games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 23:20:07 2013 No.11729454 File: 82 KB, 521x583, 123151.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 23:56:16 2013 No.11729541 >>11729454 >this cunt thinking that an Australian will care about getting called an asswipe

Lv1 Translator Sun Dec 22 00:20:30 2013 No.11729585

>>11729418
I'm still trying to get in contact with Rapapuru/Flying Shine to get the license and sell the game with MangaGamer. If I don't get the license before I get a full time job, I'll release it for free. Which I think is a bummer, since they deserve to profit from their excellent nukige, but oh well.

I'll post about it in more detail in the upcoming weeks at http://lv1translator.wordpress.com..

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 00:42:31 2013 No.11729622 >>11729454 I hate the guy, but I'll be damned if he isn't going out in a bang. I couldn't have hoped for a better turn of events, really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 00:45:33 2013 No.11729626 >>11729454 That piece of shit is using a Horo daki as his fagwiter profile picture, what a nerd.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 00:50:03 2013 No.11729637 File: 929 KB, 264x320, 1371955303956.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 00:57:33 2013 No.11729642 >>11729637 When this is finally finished the OP image should just be Ron Paul.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 01:52:35 2013 No.11729736 >>11729348 They didnt stop translating, they had to edit a lot more than what they thought needed editing, so now, even for a partial patch, is in edition/retranslation hell.

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 01:58:54 2013 No.11729751

>>11729585
Godspeed my good man. I love Rapapuru's stuff, and would gladly pay for pretty much any of their games translated.

That being said, Chichimiko was a damn good choice for a first translation. It's so delightfully unapologetic I can't help but love it. And mmmmm dat Momoka.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 02:41:27 2013 No.11729837 File: 51 KB, 590x400, 3094.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this moogy-heikasamachansankuntchachingmahringdongding?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 02:47:27 2013 No.11729852 >>11729837 That's Tin-foil seunsungnim

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 03:08:31 2013 No.11729882 >Cocoro Function - 1018/55219 (1.84%) lines translated 300 lines per week. Only 182 weeks left

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 03:10:30 2013 No.11729886

>>11729454
What amazes me is that people don't realize that Insem started the fanhate thing himself just so he would have an excuse not to release something that he never translated in the first place.
He could have just closed the site and left like any other normal person would but he had to troll everybody one more time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 03:12:30 2013 No.11729889 >>11729310 >Moenovel is working on another title I wonder which eroge they are going to ruin this time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 03:36:45 2013 No.11729916 All I need is SubaHibi and I'll never visit this thread again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 04:00:18 2013 No.11729941 >Valkyrie Svia - Jan 24th release should I buy it in the hope they'll get something new like kangoku senkan 3 next?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 04:59:21 2013 No.11729984 >I/O - Fully translated. 227/249 scripts and all tips edited, 123/249 scripts through 1st QC >1st QC >1st Oh no. Oh no no no.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 05:25:53 2013 No.11730004 What a bad year for vnts, the next doesn't look promising either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 05:32:38 2013 No.11730017 >>11730004 I hope you like BL.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 06:03:40 2013 No.11730064 >>11730017 I hope you like BL.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 07:02:21 2013 No.11730172 >Mangagamer >>Ef: The Latter Tale - Released I haven't been in this thread for a long time. What the hell, when did Mangagamer take it? What happened to the project?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 07:43:41 2013 No.11730239 File: 953 KB, 800x600, dgssd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11730172 >What the hell, when did Mangagamer take it? September 2010. >What happened to the project? Completed and released in April 2010.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 09:19:21 2013 No.11730430 >>11730017 >>11730064 Well I like BL, so I hope you two do as well. I always hope for people to like things. It's nice to enjoy things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 09:43:14 2013 No.11730461 File: 321 KB, 1333x1000, Moogy-dono-heika-sama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this moogydono?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 09:48:43 2013 No.11730470 >>11729984 I think the "plan" was a release in January or February.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 09:51:58 2013 No.11730472 File: 12 KB, 509x179, first qc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11729984

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 10:19:13 2013 No.11730516 is Ef any god?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:04:36 2013 No.11730592 I read from an anon that WB2 is machine translation. Is this true?

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:07:21 2013 No.11730594

>>11730430
Next year for BL Lamento, Sweet Pool, and the first Cage at least should be completed. Word on the street is that Mangagamer are in talks to get No Thank You licensed. It wouldn't surprise me if we got the Hadaka fandisc and Taishou Mebiusline as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:09:36 2013 No.11730596 http://vc3translationproject.wordpress.com/ At least there's VC3 in less than a fortnight....hopefully.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:21:36 2013 No.11730620 >>11730516 It's pretty. That's about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:25:09 2013 No.11730625 >>11730620 >that's about it The Latter Tale was pretty fucking moving save for twin tail's.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:45:40 2013 No.11730665 not bad looking forward to all of this except for the BL stuff lol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 11:48:10 2013 No.11730674 >>11730665 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 12:21:25 2013 No.11730737 >>11730665 Just gonna assume ur gay or a chick with a dick

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 12:51:40 2013 No.11730800 File: 657 KB, 1000x1325, cc0053b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where the fuck is Lamune, you fucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 13:24:55 2013 No.11730875 >>11730800 The same place as all the other completely generic boring moege. In hell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 13:31:25 2013 No.11730894 >>11730875 Growing up with your loli seems pretty cool to me, man

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 14:41:10 2013 No.11731050

>>11729886
Which is why I love the chain of events.

Faggots that liked him get trolled, he gets hated to hell and back (and even if he started it, there's no way he likes that), and the game doesn't get ruined by that asshole.

This is what being Haruhi must feel like.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 16:09:39 2013 No.11731344 >>11730461 Why are you sitting on the wall?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:15:28 2013 No.11731463 >>11731344 He is a web-slinger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:22:59 2013 No.11731485 >>11731050 >This is what being Haruhi must feel like. I don’t understand. Are you trying to say the remaining Haruhi novels would be ruined by an adaptation? That be dum yo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:26:59 2013 No.11731497 >>11729370 >I'm the guy that translated the Toushin Toshi games Sweet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:27:14 2013 No.11731498 Koestl allegedly confirmed for having dropped Grisaia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:39:14 2013 No.11731508 >>11731498 Didn't he confirm on twitter for having already started it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:41:29 2013 No.11731511 >>11731508 I think they said they would post an update announcing the start of the tl 'real soon' about a month or two ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:42:14 2013 No.11731513 File: 36 KB, 419x534, 324567213459.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Your-Diary fucking never. irotoridori no sekai fucking never.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:45:29 2013 No.11731515 >>11731513 Your Diary was a pretty cute game, but aside from that, it really wasn't very good at all and Iroseka was boring as shit 99% of the time, so you aren't really missing out on much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 17:50:59 2013 No.11731521 File: 870 KB, 1920x1080, 2011-12-15-459500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11731515 I like cute things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 18:31:18 2013 No.11731602 File: 250 KB, 1280x720, EV_B18_01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11731521 what about quality art?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 18:32:33 2013 No.11731604 >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 73.9% validated, third partial patch out It's been a long 8 years....back then, we could count the number of translated visual novels off our hands.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 18:39:49 2013 No.11731622 >>11731604 Are you some kind of mutant?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 18:52:19 2013 No.11731646 >>11731602 I love Kantoku's art too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 18:53:04 2013 No.11731650 >>11731646 how many arms does he have?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 19:16:49 2013 No.11731694 >>11731650 He must be >>11731604.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 19:32:24 2013 No.11731724 >>11731050 >he gets hated to hell and back (and even if he started it, there's no way he likes that) But he really likes that, he did what he did for that purpose. He wanted to go out with bang trolling his entire fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 19:36:56 2013 No.11731729 >>11731602 woah! 3 arms

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 19:38:24 2013 No.11731730 >>11731724 >his entire fanbase All three of them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:00:10 2013 No.11731760 >>11731694 >>11731729 Maybe he was talking about good ones

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:01:55 2013 No.11731762 >>11731730 Two are his own sock puppets and the third is a South American sock puppet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:21:40 2013 No.11731793 >>11731602 Who says all three arms belong to the same guy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:25:25 2013 No.11731802 >>11731793 There are two people and 5 arms in that picture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:28:10 2013 No.11731810 >>11731802 Right. Two for the chick, two for the guy whose cock she's riding, and one for the guy under the bed reaching up and rubbing her ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:28:56 2013 No.11731809 Isn't it weird how a bunch of threads get deleted right when the VNTS thread pops up?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:40:25 2013 No.11731825 >>11731809 That was 22 hours ago.

>>	koestl !Ti9jZASPIc Sun Dec 22 20:54:10 2013 No.11731874 >>11731498 I confirmed this months ago, mongoloid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 21:59:45 2013 No.11731981 >>11730516 Ef is one of my favorite games. Very enjoyable story and the art/OST is top notch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:09:45 2013 No.11731997 Anyone else hyped for Kourin no Machi?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:25:19 2013 No.11732045 >>11731997 Considering there's nothing particularly special about it, probably not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:25:34 2013 No.11732046 >>11731997 hyped as fuck for machine translations

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:37:34 2013 No.11732079 I'm okay with machine translations so long as the editing compensates for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:44:49 2013 No.11732093 >>11730665 closet homo, Señor?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:45:04 2013 No.11732094 >>11732079 Even though you may get sentences that seem to make sense this way, it's likely that you'll lose some or all of the meaning behind the original Japanese sentence. Puns and jokes won't work at all obviously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:01:07 2013 No.11732120 >>11732079 That's like saying you'll eat horse manure if there's enough ketchup on it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:03:37 2013 No.11732127 >>11732094 Didn't the /m/ MLA machine translation show us why this is a bad idea? "95%" because "90% in 5 minutes." Machine translations don't even get basic numbers right all the time.

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:19:52 2013 No.11732167

What exactly is machine translation? I understand using google translate blindly is bad, but what if you just look up kanji and phrases in something like jisho.org, but the translator handles all the grammar and most of everything else but the odd kanji and phrase?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:20:07 2013 No.11732174 I'm currently playing Muv-Luv Extra and the dialogue in class rep route makes no sense at all. Was it like this in the original or did the translator just screw up?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:31:09 2013 No.11732202 >>11731622 >Tsukihime >Kagetsu Tooya >Planetarian >Yume Miru Kusuri >Narcissu >Phantom of Inferno, if you include DVD VNs >Ever17 What else?

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:33:38 2013 No.11732206

>>11732167
Even that's going to be prone to error. Which definition is the right in which context? If you're using a machine translator, you get to see possible word substitution. Even if you're using a full dictionary, that gives definitions, not context or usage, so reading it doesn't really give the meaning. There are plenty of very simple and common words and phrases that you see poorly or mistranslated all the time (sasuga's a popular one) because all people do is substitute it for the first definition listed in the dictionary without understanding the actual meaning behind it.

There's no substitute for experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:34:39 2013 No.11732207 >>11732202 Start from here. http://asenheim.org/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:38:23 2013 No.11732211 >>11732202 >Turkeyhandle >Kagetsu Tohya >YMK >translated eight years ago

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:56:08 2013 No.11732243 Remember when Aroduc released translations?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:57:38 2013 No.11732246 >>11729308 >Walkure Romanze - Translation starting up >People got upset with the anime and finally decided to pick this up lel

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:58:53 2013 No.11732252 >>11732246 And like all anime projects, drop it two weeks later.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:59:54 2013 No.11732255 >>11732246 I hope this isn't the same group who tried to do that with Princess Lover, and then looked at the HCG gallery and got cold feet and dropped the project.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:00:53 2013 No.11732258 >>11732255 Hopefully they don't. Walkure is a fetish haven.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:02:23 2013 No.11732263 >>11732258 Piss central. Just like Princess Lover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:03:38 2013 No.11732269 >>11732263 Pissing is always fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:03:53 2013 No.11732274 >>11732243 >working for JAST >releasing translations Pick one.

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:23:41 2013 No.11732313 [DELETED]

>>11732269
I COULDNT STOP LAUGHING IN CLASS OH MY GOD I STARTED CRYING AND MY TEACHER COULDNT STOP LAUGHING WHEN SHE SAW ME I LITTERALLY FELL OF MY CHAIR WITH MY HEAD FIRST AND JUST KEPT LAUGHING EVERYONE LAUGHED AT ME AND breeeaaaathe OH MY GOD THIS WAS SO HILARIOUS

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:47:11 2013 No.11732370

>>11732258
I browsed the weekly threads for the show on /a/. The people who are apparently picking it up enjoy piss and pregnancy, both of which are prevalent in Ricotta games.

You just need to get some dudes who like lewd things to work on a game like that. You can't get a fag boy who can't handle some bodily fluids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 02:56:34 2013 No.11732580 >>11731602 You don't see the left hand. Maybe it's just really long.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 03:07:04 2013 No.11732601 >>11732274 working for JAST

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 03:32:19 2013 No.11732648 >>11729370 from what i saw Kichikuou Rance looks like Sengoku Rance Content wise how do they compare in length?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 04:22:38 2013 No.11732690 >>11732648 They're both long, I couldn't tell you which is longer than the other. I think a single game of KR takes longer than one of SR, but you might get less replay value out of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 05:01:38 2013 No.11732735 >>11732601 How much does that pay?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 12:31:51 2013 No.11733525 >>11730594 >Lamento >Sweet Pool >Cage >No Thank You Holy fuck, is this heaven? Since when do good games get translations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 12:44:06 2013 No.11733555 >>11729984 oh god have they said how long the qc will take? I thought we were so close to a decent vn....

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 12:46:52 2013 No.11733560 Steins gate is not coming till feb.. what taking so long?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 12:55:07 2013 No.11733581 I/O 510/510 (100%) 491/510 (96.3%) 124/510 (24.3%)I thionk we will see I/O very very soon, the first QC thing could be quick and it doesn't say anything about it on the progress page..

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:09:51 2013 No.11733628 >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 73.9% validated, third partial patch out Is this actually legit? Looking on the thread, it seems someone made up the last 2%?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:16:21 2013 No.11733648 >>11733560 What exactly about Steins;gate is coming out? An official translation? I mean, we already have a fan translation, no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:18:21 2013 No.11733653 >>11733648 After completing the fan patch, he sold it to JAST who then took several years to release it as an "official" translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:20:06 2013 No.11733656 >>11733648 It's an official release based on the fan translation. There was some edit to the font and the way it's printed or something, I think, so I guess it's all right if you haven't tried it out before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:21:42 2013 No.11733661 >>11733628 Depends. What's your stance on machine translation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:27:27 2013 No.11733679 >>11733648 The fan translation was not edited or QC and was still being translated. the official is completely re translated and edited. dont read the leaked version. ive wait 3 years for final version. im not reading unedittied shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:28:57 2013 No.11733680 >>11733656 Are you being serious? the leak translation was not even edited and he completely re translated the game for the official release. plus tips weren't translated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 13:42:28 2013 No.11733704 >>11733679 >im not reading unedittied shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 14:34:59 2013 No.11733799 >>11733656 >was some edit to the font What the fuck are you even talking about, it's thea actual, bug-free, typo-free finished translation.

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 14:45:44 2013 No.11733814

>>11733680

>>11733648 here
I read Steins;gate recently and everything, including tips, was translated. The only good thing the official release can do is remove some of the awkward 4chan references.
I mean, some kind of fit but others were... average.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 15:17:03 2013 No.11733865 >>11733679 >ive wait 3 years for final version. im not reading unedittied shit. Hohoho

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 15:21:05 2013 No.11733872

>>11733814
Bugs that were present with the original Japanese release are fixed. The translation was actually looked over and fixed up (the "leaked" patch was translated once and not even read over once for flow or accuracy). Images with text in them were edited. D-Mail text was edited to fit the in-universe D-Mail rules. Certain terms were adjusted to match 5pb.'s official stance. The music player was given a Lyrics function. The engine was made to run on any locale. TIPS are now sorted alphabetically instead of gojuon order. ESRB rating means it can be sold in venues that require it (not like they'll stock it).

Doesn't mean much if you've already played it, but it means a whole lot to people who have yet to play it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 15:28:21 2013 No.11733880

>>11733872
Oh, well it does sound like a whole lot.

Not that I really cared whether the D-mails actually contained 36 bytes worth of English characters.

I hope it can at least land on a popular market like Steam, who seems to be accepting VNs lately, and make more people enjoy it. S;G was really great, but not in the way I thought it would be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 15:38:21 2013 No.11733896 >>11733880 Gabe Newell has specifically said he will never approve VNs on Steam, because it's a slippery slope from allowing all ages titles at first to every perverted rape nukige there is, and he won't stand for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 15:42:36 2013 No.11733900 >>11733896 [citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 15:56:52 2013 No.11733908 About Majikoi A, third route isn't Koyuki but Azumi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:11:12 2013 No.11734164 Anyone knows what's happening with Mahoutsukai no Yoru? It doesn't look like it has progressed in a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:18:57 2013 No.11734179 >>11734164 It's dead, Jim.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:22:58 2013 No.11734190 >>11734179 Oh... How tough is Nasu's writing in terms of reading, in Japanese? I know the basic grammar and about 400 kanjis, and I got some tools to help me tell the meaning of kanjis that I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:28:42 2013 No.11734197 >>11734190 You aren't going to have very much fun with it most likely. Actually, you probably won't be able to read a lot of chuu2 stuff very well if you only know 400 kanji and rely on machine translators.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:43:00 2013 No.11734220 >>11734190 I know 1000 kanji and I still can't read shit. Get back to work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:46:30 2013 No.11734227 >>11733896 And that's bullshit because OELVNs and Higurashi sit just fine on Steam. Shitpost some more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:52:46 2013 No.11734242 >>11734227 Higurashi isn't a visual novel, it's a sound novel.

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:53:47 2013 No.11734243

>>11734220
Because grinding kanji alone isn't going to do shit for you! You need to learn actual vocab too. I mean sure you can sometimes guess the meanings of words based on the kanji but if you try to do it for everything it's just not going to work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 19:36:35 2013 No.11734352 >>11733880 I don't know if MAGES/5pb. would approve it being on Steam since they recently put up their own download service, and they might see it as competition. http://maginodrive.jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 20:10:33 2013 No.11734434 >>11734242 Stop arguing semantics, Higurahshi is a Kinetic Visual Novel. The only difference with "usual" visual novels is that it has even less gameplay. Go suck a dick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 20:17:48 2013 No.11734457 >>11734352 They'd be stupid to not let it be on Steam. It'd mean the breakthrough they need to start making games worldwide. But then again, 5pb. does strike me as stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 20:29:48 2013 No.11734516 >>11734457 Steins;Gate won't be on Steam as long as Jast's name is attached to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 20:37:34 2013 No.11734550 >>11734516 Just like how Higurashi won't be on Steam as long as MG's name is attached to it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 20:41:34 2013 No.11734564 >>11734550 Mangagamer has both adult and U17 sections. Jast has tentacle rape and enema blasted plastered all over every page.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 21:30:25 2013 No.11734731 >>11734564 That isn't exactly difficult to resolve.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 21:39:10 2013 No.11734773 >>11734731 You're not very familiar with Jast, are you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 21:47:27 2013 No.11734806 >>11734773 Familiar enough. They could have one page for Steins;Gate and Aselia and one page for everything else. Unless you're implying that they're too disorganized to ever get anything done, in which case I won't argue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 23:43:49 2013 No.11735230 >>11734806 Disorganized enough to bring hardcore tentacle porn to a Disney children's convention.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 00:27:06 2013 No.11735386 >>11734190 Very flowery writing. Tons of made-up terms that are long-ass kanji compounds that are "pronounced" with European words. (熾天覆う七つの円環 is pronounced "Rho Aias") Not fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 00:30:51 2013 No.11735398 >>11735386 Welp, I'll go with a JRPG for learning then I guess

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 00:33:06 2013 No.11735425 >>11735386 That's pretty common for any sci fi or fantasy setting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 00:36:21 2013 No.11735433 >>11735386 aren't most fantasy genre "names" of shit like that, though, or does Nasu really take the cake when he went for it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 00:39:21 2013 No.11735440 >>11735433 I'd say Masada would be more deserving of that figurative cake to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 04:28:36 2013 No.11735949 >>11734434 It was sold and marketed as a sound novel, thus it is a sound novel. I don't believe that R07 or anyone else involved in its production ever used the term visual novel to refer to it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 04:59:39 2013 No.11735994

>>11735949
In that case, it's improper to refer to pretty much anything but Leaf games as visual novels.

It's a stupid argument. "Visual novel" is a generic term for these sorts of things. I'd link you to the Japanese Wikipedia page but you wouldn't be able to read it. And "sound novel" is a trademark of Chunsoft anyway.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 05:10:09 2013 No.11736011

>>11735949
Yes, and Tales of the Abyss is not a JRPG, it's a "To Know the Meaning of One's Birth RPG". Likewise, Metal Gear Solid is not a stealth game, but a "Tactical Espionage Action" game, since that's how those titles were marketed.

You, sir, are a fucking retard.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 08:43:20 2013 No.11736401

>>11735994
>I'd link you to the Japanese Wikipedia page but you wouldn't be able to read it.

From Japanese Wikipedia:
>『ひぐらしのなく頃に』（ひぐらしのなくころに、When They Cry）は、同人サークル『07th Expansion』によるコンピューターゲーム作品である。ゲームジャンルはサウンドノベル。
And in the infobox:
>ゲームジャンルサウンドノベル

Even if it didn't refer to the game as sound novel, it would most definitely not refer to it as a 'visual novel', since that's only a generic term in the West (whereas in Japan, like 'sound novel', it has more specific connotations). The generic names for VNs in Japan are 'ADV' and 'NVL' (depending on the text style, though they change up the usages every now and then - Chaos;Head was marketed as a 'Delusional Science NVL' despite being ADV).

I agree with you that it should just be called a VN in the West, but they just don't use the same terminology the same way in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 08:56:25 2013 No.11736423 Best thread of the week. Scene is dying Insem is a faggot Did I forget something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 09:47:12 2013 No.11736493 any Christmas presents incoming?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 09:52:27 2013 No.11736502 >>11736493 Want a partial machine translation of a terrible MLA fan disk?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 10:48:19 2013 No.11736643 >>11736423 Why were you sitting on the wall?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 10:49:04 2013 No.11736647 >>11736502 Want a partial machine translation of a terrible MLA sequel... Chronicles TDA00 "partial patch"? http://alternativeprojects.wordpress.com/2013/12/24/muv-luv-alternative-chronicles-tda00-partial-patch-release/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 10:56:36 2013 No.11736662 >>11736647 >sequel No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 11:06:20 2013 No.11736687 >>11736502 >>11736647 >TDA00 for Christmas What a terrible fate. I wouldn't wish such a shitty thing on even my worst enemy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 11:07:21 2013 No.11736693 >>11736647 >TDA >Alternative :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 14:35:00 2013 No.11737216 >>11736011 The first term is just silly, but I see nothing wrong with calling MGS a Tactical Espionage Action game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 14:53:17 2013 No.11737274 >>11737216 Sure, but saying it's not a stealth game because it's a "tactical espionage action" game is stupid.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 14:58:02 2013 No.11737298

>>11736401
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8E%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB
This is the page I was referring to.

>電子画面上で読む小説であり、画面に表示される文章に絵と音が加わった物である。
Sounds a whole fucking lot like Higurashi.

>文章・画像・音・演出があればサウンドノベルの定義に当たることになり、広義の意味のビジュアルノベルと同義と言える。
Oh look. It's a synonym of sound novel in the broad sense.

The fact that it's not as common a term in Japan as it is in the West doesn't mean that they don't use it that way. We originally borrowed the term from them after all.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 15:46:20 2013 No.11737443

>>11737298
I'll also add that the term "visual novel" does not necessarily only refer to NVL-style games.

>ビジュアルノベルの定義には大きく2種類ある。1つ目は画面全体に文字が表示されるものと定義される（狭義のビジュアルノベル）。2つ目は文字の表示形式に拘らず、文字+画像の組み合わせで文章を読ませるもの全般を含むと定義される（広義のビジュアルノベル）。広義のビジュアルノベルは狭義の定義を含んでいる。
In the West we use the loose definition of the term, but both definitions are used in Japan as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 15:49:06 2013 No.11737456 >>11737443 I thought "visual novel" was just a term gaijins came up with so they don't have to say they like playing japanese porn games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 15:59:06 2013 No.11737490 >>11737456 No. Visual Novel was originally a brand by Leaf and a specific set of games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 16:51:25 2013 No.11737730 >>11736423 F/HA is 100% How does that make the scene die?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 16:58:10 2013 No.11737761 >>11737730 No, only the translation is done 100% (machine tl?) Now we can wait for another few years with the Tlc, Ed & Qc progress...

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 17:00:40 2013 No.11737772

>>11737761
The translation isn't even at 100%. Someone filled the rest of it in with copy paste lines, and apparently only one guy on the project can roll it back. He's not responding to anybody (holidays probably) so it's currently paused until he rolls it back a few weeks.

AND THEN, TLC, editing, and QC can begin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 17:07:09 2013 No.11737803 >>11729310 What does in scripting mean anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 18:04:13 2013 No.11737971 >>11737803 Dealing with tweaking the engine in the various ways necessary to make it nice for the localized text, I assume.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 18:47:26 2013 No.11738046

>>11737803
It means MangaGamer translates the scripts in Word, requiring a lengthy manual insertion process after translation is complete.

(Unless they fixed that since, though...is Doddler in this thread? He could confirm. If they stopped doing that it's just the official equivalent of 'hacking' except they can't half-ass it.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 21:06:27 2013 No.11738522 >>11738046 Is that how they do that? Holy shit how inefficient.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 21:12:43 2013 No.11738538 >>11738046 I don't do anything for MG, but I've had to rescript a couple scenes for what I'm translating so far.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 01:40:17 2013 No.11739379

>>11738522
Not really. As long as you make sure to format everything carefully in your translation it should be pretty much trivial for the hacker to write a script in the end to parse your documents into the proper format. Or at least trivial on top of all the other shit they probably have to do.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 04:47:09 2013 No.11739798

Mohoyo is already 100% translated and in TLC.
See nanuneko twitter and http://nanuneko.wordpress.com/2013/12/25/merry-christmas/
>TL for the VN had been completed 100% for a while; I just don’t care to update the folder, which is linked to the status update on the website. I’m on my first cycle of TLC.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 05:26:42 2013 No.11739883 >>11739798 google translation?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 05:50:42 2013 No.11739915 >>11739883 Worse: Commie translation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 05:53:27 2013 No.11739925 >>11739915 well atleast it is going to be funny to read!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 07:24:02 2013 No.11740014 https://twitter.com/herkz2/status/415263826838159361 <koestl__> im gunna do it guys <koestl__> im gunna f... <koestl__> fuckin translate

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 07:30:32 2013 No.11740018 >>11739883 Japanese native living in the US.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 08:31:17 2013 No.11740132 >>11740018 So, shitty like TakaJun then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 09:19:36 2013 No.11740243 >>11740014 Nobody gives a shit about kusoge being translated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:10:25 2013 No.11740390 >>11739915 I was going to read Grisaia but then I read. >Editing: DxS, herkz How hard is the japanese in this game anyways?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:31:11 2013 No.11740435 >>11739798 oh thank god, that means we might get it soon and if its >>11740018 this then im happy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:34:56 2013 No.11740446 >>11740435 Takajun was a Japanese native too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:56:12 2013 No.11740485 >>11740390 I can't believe you people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:15:28 2013 No.11740548 >>11740446 RIP Takajun We hardly knew ye

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:34:28 2013 No.11740612 >native japanese speakers translating to english Absolutely unacceptable. That's not good translating practice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:37:58 2013 No.11740632 >>11740485 What's unbelievable?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:39:13 2013 No.11740640 >>11740612 Japanese is my third language and English my second. Should I translate stuff?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:41:43 2013 No.11740647 >>11740640 No. English as a second language should never be allowed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:43:28 2013 No.11740651 >>11740647 >English natives mad that their casual language can be learned by any idiot on this Earth

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 11:46:28 2013 No.11740665 >>11740651 Learned and good enough to translate are two very different things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 13:26:49 2013 No.11740916 I/O - one the editors finished up editing, other close.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 13:31:54 2013 No.11740937 >>11740916 First pass. They need a second QC, remember? I am extremely shocked by this turn of events.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:12:51 2013 No.11741088

>>11740390
Don't worry, the translator's pretty competent, and they're basically glorified QC.

>>11740485
No, he's right.

Contrary to koestl, whose only reference is the original Grisaia, Herkz (and maybe DxS, I don't know about him) has a good track of being an incompetent and stupid piece of shit, like the rest of commie.

In fact, he (they?) couldn't even manage editing the only problem Koestl had in Grisaia (that a fact?) and still delayed the release for about a month.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:15:06 2013 No.11741099 >>11741088 For DxS refer to ggs Tokyo Ravens as an example.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:27:52 2013 No.11741123 >>11740647 Don't assume everyone that learns English is the same as those idiots who barely know how to some vocabulary and try to translate shit for e-penis. In fact, don't assume everyone's as bad at learning languages as English natives.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:28:06 2013 No.11741127 >>11741099 >gg You could have finished there. Anyone who's fine with ridding their work with Internet speak for no other reason that giggles can go suck on a dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:33:38 2013 No.11741140 >>11740916 oh shit really, its gonna come out soon, hopefully next month. >>11740937 the second qc wont take as long.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:45:54 2013 No.11741173

>>11741123
He's still right, though. People shouldn't translate to their secondary languages as a principle.

Though I guess working with two secondary languages is somewhat acceptable. The worst translation horrors are spawned by attempts to translate one's native tongue. Even relatively fluent speakers end up using their native grammar and idioms in the target language because they're unable to realize how unnatural they are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:49:09 2013 No.11741183 >>11741173 You can get away with inaccuracy easily if you present it in the target language well and naturally. You can't get away with being accurate but looking like pidgin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 14:50:39 2013 No.11741184 >>11741183 Also, that's really not accurate at all anyway unless the source language WAS garbage to begin with. Turning natural language into unnatural is sure as hell introducing errors.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 18:58:53 2013 No.11741796

>>11741173
>working with two secondary languages is somewhat acceptable
Well yeah, I guess you're right. I have never had to translate from my native tongue since I've been fluent in English, much less Japanese.

But just assuming ESL's are 100% guaranteed to be bad at translating into English is stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:18:08 2013 No.11741823 >>11741088 >and they're basically glorified QC Have you seen the scripts before and after editing? If not, you're talking out of your ass.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:35:38 2013 No.11741841

>>11741823
I'm pretty sure that is heavily dependent on the translator. Koestl, unlike a lot of other 'translators', is obviously a competent writer and actually has a strong grasp of the English language, so his raw translations, from what I've seen of them, are actually quite good and I'd guess only rarely require to be completely rewritten, as would be the case of many translators out there. While editors do play an important role in many translation projects when it comes to actually making the scripts readable, I doubt this is the case with Grisaia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:37:53 2013 No.11741845 >>11741841 >so his raw translations, from what I've seen of them Which have you seen? Koestl barely posted screenshots, most were posted by the editors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:38:53 2013 No.11741847 >>11741845 Herkz streaming while editing certain parts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:48:23 2013 No.11741866 >>11741841 I searched the name in the archive and found this. Yeah. I'd rather read it in moon and understand a grand total of 1 word every few minutes than read Koestl's translation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:50:26 2013 No.11741871 File: 247 KB, 1679x321, 1378543712914.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11741866 Image forgot I did.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:52:11 2013 No.11741876 >>11741866 >>11741871 Then you're being stupid. Makina talks like a retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:58:26 2013 No.11741889 >>11741876 Do you have any detailed breakdown as to why it's an accurate translation? I can't go around blindly trusting what translators come up with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 19:58:42 2013 No.11741890 >>11741866 That sounds like it has early H-scenes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:01:11 2013 No.11741895 >>11741871 >Anonymous That's just looking at an image and assuming shit. Makina doesn't speak proper Japanese and the translation is indicative of that. You'll find proper English from the other characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:03:57 2013 No.11741901 So why hasn't anyone gotten around to translating Baldr Sky (besides that stalled translation project)? Isn't it one of the best visual novels out there?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:06:42 2013 No.11741903 >>11741890 It doesn't. It does have early lewdness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:10:11 2013 No.11741908 >>11741901 It will instantly become shit once it gets translated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:11:56 2013 No.11741911 >>11737761 It's like 98%, someone trolled the last 2%.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:12:11 2013 No.11741915 >>11736647 Is this the "translation" /a/ was working on?

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:12:41 2013 No.11741913

>>11741901
I'm not super familiar with Baldr Sky, but the default reason for why any visual novel doesn't get translated is because there aren't any competent translators willing to put the time into translating it. It doesn't help that the game itself is split into two titles, making it almost necessary for a translator to commit him time to translating two titles in a row.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:14:56 2013 No.11741918 >>11741895 How improper though? Is it just broken or does she sound like 13 year old on acid in the original too? Also does she get a lot of focus? Because I'm not playing it if I have to read that constantly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:16:56 2013 No.11741923 >>11741918 This is why EOP are shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:18:26 2013 No.11741926 >>11741915 Altered Fable was the /a/ one I think

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 20:18:41 2013 No.11741929 >>11741918 >Because I'm not playing it if I have to read that constantly. Should I care?

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:39:46 2013 No.11742126

>>11741823
No, it's an educated guess based on the fact that the few things editing should fix if they had done their jobs correctly wasn't fixed. My belief is that they just took their time to read it before everyone else and fixed a few typos.

If they actually improved the translation greatly, which doubt, they still fell short of what was expected of them. And they're still stupid and incompetent for their work outside of Grisaia.

>>11741871
I discussed this with Koestl back when it came out on one of the Grisaia threads. He stuck to his guns, and that's fine, though he probably didn't understand my point.

Basically I think he overdid both Makina's speech patterns and her vocabulary and/or didn't do the respective treatment to Yuuji's, as he doesn't come off nearly as obscene as Makina does, in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:40:02 2013 No.11742132 >>11741901 >besides that stalled translation project There's been two actually. And it's because EOPs don't deserve it.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:44:16 2013 No.11742144

>>11741918
>Because I'm not playing it if I have to read that constantly.
I personally didn't read it most of the time. I understood Makina's speech in Japanese better than the English translation. Probably because English isn't my first language to begin with, so some phonetic spelling is lost on me.

I did make an exception when I was curious how he had handled certain jokes and stuff, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:44:16 2013 No.11742146 I/0 soon everyone! I cant fucking wait, i fucking love infinity games. And this one is as long or longer than fate/stay night.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:44:16 2013 No.11742149 >>11742146 Is it as good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:45:01 2013 No.11742155 >>11742149 It's as good as my dick. Wanna try it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:46:01 2013 No.11742159 >>11742155 Don't fucking do this to me

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 21:48:16 2013 No.11742163 >>11742146 >And this one is as long or longer than fate/stay night. Unless you're measuring by... oh, I don't know, let's say script size or line count. Then it's about 65% as long.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 22:53:21 2013 No.11742369 >>11742159 Well, if you want to avoid fucking you leave me without much choices. You can suck on it, I guess. grabs dick

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 01:58:59 2013 No.11742877 I wonder when a kind soul will try to finish up the editing on Pure Pure. It has been on editing hell for quite some time. Or is the translation so awkward that the editor gets demotivated just by seeing it?

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 02:26:47 2013 No.11742946
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>>11729302
>>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 73.9% validated, third partial patch out
>100% translated
>script 73.9% validated

A-Am I allowed to rejoice now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 04:14:23 2013 No.11743155 >>11742946 >73.9% validated >74.3% validated >74.8% validated >75% validated >75.5% validated >... >63.8% edited >... >71% QC >... >Project acquired by JAST

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 04:22:22 2013 No.11743175 >>11743155 >Project acquired by JAST Well that's great. At least it's not MANGAGAMER.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 04:50:22 2013 No.11743239 >>11743175 You're funny.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 04:54:37 2013 No.11743250 >>11743239 And then Mangagamer licenses it after I said that. And then they will cut content for stupid reasons, then /jp/ will have to ask a bunch of tripfags to patch it out.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 05:11:52 2013 No.11743274

>>11743250
>>11743250
What? What makes you think that if Mangagamer succeeds (which obviously won't happen) licensing Fate/Hollow Ataraxia they'll remove content? Mangagamer isn't Moenovel.
And what makes you think that Mangagamer would take a lot of time to release it? Mangagamer isn't JAST.

At first I thought you were trolling but now I'm not so sure.

>>	GundamAce !Ti9jZASPIc Thu Dec 26 05:34:41 2013 No.11743316 >>11742146 I/O is cancelled, sorry dude.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 05:42:26 2013 No.11743333 >>11743274 To be fair to him they did rip a bunch of music out of higurashi because it was submitted stuff and they were too fucking poor/too goddamn lazy to license each one

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 05:57:41 2013 No.11743364

>>11743333
You're misinformed. See http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/about-the-release-of-higurashi/
>Music Room-Because a few BGMs/SEs were replaced, the original license holder requested that we remove this feature as part of our adaptation of Higurashi.

>Minigame-This was removed because of technical issues as well as copyright issues with some characters from other companies who have a cameo appearance in the minigame. In the original game they were used without permission, and we have not received permission to use them either, so the minigame was removed.
>The Staff Room section is similar to a diary for Ryukishi, and contains various topics relating to games, products, and other material during the time he worked on Higurashi. Since we have no permission for any of the games or products he discussed, this section was removed as well.
>As a doujin game, Ryukishi was able to use many songs, characters, and topics without permission for these features, but as an official release we need permission from the copyright holders to use them. Since we couldn’t obtain all the licenses for all of the characters and products featured in these sections, they were unfortunately removed. If we ever have any new updates about these features, I assure you we will make the information available as soon as possible.

Obviously, Mangagamer isn't at fault for the content removal / replacement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 06:05:27 2013 No.11743375 >>11743364 They could have acquired licenses if they cared about anything other than turning a profit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 06:10:11 2013 No.11743381 Let's not forget about MangaGamer holding voices hostage over sales numbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 06:14:11 2013 No.11743391 >>11743381 They could have just said "this isn't getting voices, tough luck". Both such games got a voice patch within days of release anyway.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 06:19:41 2013 No.11743397

>>11743381

I'll give them credit there in that they've stopped doing that shit

>>11743364
>As a doujin game, Ryukishi was able to use many songs, characters, and topics without permission for these features, but as an official release we need permission from the copyright holders to use them. Since we couldn’t obtain all the licenses for all of the characters and products featured in these sections, they were unfortunately removed. If we ever have any new updates about these features, I assure you we will make the information available as soon as possible.

A lot of the cut music was shit that was submitted to R07 to be used in the game. Mangagamer just couldn't/wouldn't hunt down everyone to license it all individually.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 06:24:26 2013 No.11743404

>>11743397
>I'll give them credit there in that they've stopped doing that shit
It was never something they did a lot anyway. Just for two games where they had a hard time affording the royalties because they were more expensive than usual for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 06:25:26 2013 No.11743406 I don't get why so many people gave MG shit for cutting the voices from their games but when ATLUS did the same damn thing for Wayfarer of Time no one gave a fuck and even defended their decision.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 07:08:31 2013 No.11743463

>>11743406
>ATLUS
Don't even get me started on it.

They make one of my favorite RPG franchises (SMT of course) and they refuse to put Japanese voices for whatever reason, instead waving around the supposedly competent English dub that I don't fucking care for.

I haven't decided if I love them or hate them, but I sure as hell am annoyed that I have to import and read in Japanese, or pirate and patch, every game they release. Fucking damn it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 07:43:05 2013 No.11743554 >>11743463 >instead waving around the supposedly competent English dub It really isn't that bad but a Japanese option would be nice too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 08:34:38 2013 No.11743626 >>11741841 Koestl is indeed good at writing as well as converting the Japanese to suitable English speech/text. But even authors writing novels in their native language, needs someone that isn't them to proofread their works.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 08:46:23 2013 No.11743654 >>11729348 >>11729736 2014 will still be the year of PM5, right? I can wait if the end product is good. Granted it gets done.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 13:34:06 2013 No.11744226

>>11743554
I honestly can tell when an English dub is good, just whether or not it sucks balls.

But not getting to listen to the Japanese voices I know because of it is really fucking frustrating, so I hate it regardless.

I'm already figuring out what will be the best way to import Persona 5 when it comes out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 13:50:36 2013 No.11744261 >>11743316 your not the real gundamace.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 13:51:42 2013 No.11744265

>>11744226
Well, good news is that being a PS3 game, it should be possible to undub.

To be fair to ATLUS, though, their dubs actually are pretty solid. My only real problem with the P4 dub was Amanda Lee being incapable of pronouncing Japanese. I feel your pain, though. I played Rune Factory 4 in Japanese for the same reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 17:08:34 2013 No.11744964 File: 336 KB, 640x480, zzzCCD4003mikihug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone know what happened to the SubaHibi TL? it's been stuck at 80% for 2 months

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 18:22:24 2013 No.11745125 >>11743626 Isn't proofreading essentially just glorified QC though?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 18:57:42 2013 No.11745230 I hope I/O comes out very soon. I bet they are done editing and onto qc already. anybody know a torrent for the right version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 18:58:42 2013 No.11745233 http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=357085 could this be the right one? everyone seed it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:01:12 2013 No.11745238 >>11745233 never mind that some mkv file.. anyone know where i could find a torrent for I/O revision II?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:01:12 2013 No.11745239 >>11745233 That's the anime, baka. I got it off rutracker, couldn't find a seeded torrent on nyaa. I'll probably upload a torrent to GGn once the patch comes out though, if no one else has by then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:08:42 2013 No.11745255 >>11745239 thanks but whats GGn? could you also upload it too nyaa?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:09:42 2013 No.11745261 >>11745255 GazelleGames. Also probably not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:12:42 2013 No.11745272 >>11745261 but most people here dont use that gg place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:14:42 2013 No.11745279 >>11745272 I'm sure erogedownload will put it up sooner or later as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:14:57 2013 No.11745281 >>11745272 Most people aren't going to want to play I/O, so that works out great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:26:28 2013 No.11745332 >>11745281 are you fucking serious, its the best vn we've gotten in years. I dont even remember the last time i actually cared about a vn. it actually has a plot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:27:43 2013 No.11745336 >>11745281 Im pretty sure I/O will be more cared about then more than 80% of those vns on that list.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:28:28 2013 No.11745337 >>11745332 Boy, are you in for disappointment.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:30:59 2013 No.11745347 >>11745332 Don't worry, I will play it :)

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:32:16 2013 No.11745350

>>11745337
Im pretty sure ill love it more than most of the waste of time that has been translated , like Grisaia. never 7 was better than most vns we have gotten for god sake. actually never 7 was really good. im sure I/O is better than ever 17 and just as good as remember 11 or more. maybe you just have shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:34:15 2013 No.11745362 >>11745350 You both have shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:38:15 2013 No.11745383 >>11745337 Any infinity game is worth reading, they said never 7 was bad and it was actually better than most. at least better than the shit we keep getting form manga gamer,jast and the shitty moe games that are a waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:39:30 2013 No.11745389 >>11745350 >>11745383 Your inattention to language and communication does not mark you as someone able to recognize and judge writing in any way. And stop samefagging so obviously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:44:30 2013 No.11745407 >>11745389 I know when a vn is at least a fucking bore or a waste of time and when a vn actually keeps me reading. All i can say is infinity games at least make me read them to the end.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:45:45 2013 No.11745412 >>11745407 I wish I was able to get as much enjoyment out of pieces of shit like those games as you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:48:15 2013 No.11745419 >>11745407 You certainly strike me as an open-minded soul instead of a twat who made up their mind by looking at a single screenshot and then built up an entire religion in his head around it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:53:00 2013 No.11745432 >>11745412 Not him, but I can very much enjoy a generic moege as much as a sci-fi or a nukige. I guess I have literally zero standards, since everything works (except for otoge and BLs).

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:57:00 2013 No.11745440 File: 223 KB, 800x600, capture_007_16122013_095444.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745432 I have plenty of fun with moege, but I can't stand terribly done scifi shit like the infinity series for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:57:45 2013 No.11745439 >>11745412 I don't even know how you can read those moege shit without closing it every 5 minutes. kanon was alright because it had some otherworldly feel too it but the normal ones where you just some teenager shit going to highschool? fuck that.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:06:15 2013 No.11745446

>>11745440
Why do you think it's horribly done? I mean, I've only read Ever17, and I felt like the whole concept really made me "enter" the atmosphere of being imprisoned in that theme park. Thinking about it though, some ideas felt kinda exagerated, such as exactly 6 important people to be left in the Lemu, and coincidentally Tsugumi holding that virus. It was still an amazing ride, and I really liked the experience in general. But on the other side of the coin, I can also easily enjoy a moege filled with cute characters and appreciate their personalities, while enjoying the light atmosphere. And I also do not mind at all playing a game where I'm just supposed to fuck the heroine while having my desired fetish as a bonus.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:09:30 2013 No.11745453

>>11745440
> terribly done scifi
have you even ever fucking watched the scifi channel? the infinity series is fucking actually amazing. maybe you just dont understand scifi?
>>11745446
read remember 11, it was so much better then ever 17. ever 17 had too much teenager shit. never 7 was also better than ever 17 if you ask me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:11:16 2013 No.11745458 >>11745125 No, QC is glorified proofreading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:11:31 2013 No.11745457 >>11745453 >maybe you just dont understand scifi? Considering the fact that the only non star trek scifi things I've ever really enjoyed were baldr sky and harukuru, that might be the case.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:12:32 2013 No.11745460

>>11745446
>But on the other side of the coin, I can also easily enjoy a moege filled with cute characters and appreciate their personalities, while enjoying the light atmosphere. And I also do not mind at all playing a game where I'm just supposed to fuck the heroine while having my desired fetish as a bonus.
I can never play those game without closing them out of boredom. I just jerk off and they are all really fucking boring. I need a plot/ deep characters/ world development. maybe i am just getting or am way too old of moege. hell I hated how they were all teenagers and highschool, while i was in fucking highschool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:15:01 2013 No.11745470 >>11745446 Ever17 is literally the worst entry in the Infinity series. I wish people would stop praising it as some kind of kamige when it really isn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:15:17 2013 No.11745467 >>11745460 >I need a plot/ deep characters/ world development >Infinity series Uhhhh

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:17:32 2013 No.11745475 >>11745467 do you have no idea how deep the history and timeline is of the infinity series? and it has the deepest plot any vn that was or is being translated has.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:18:31 2013 No.11745478 >>11745475 I worry that you're not shitposting and just this stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:24:46 2013 No.11745487 File: 206 KB, 800x600, amatsukaze.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11745475 >vn that was or is being translated has That kind of narrows the field quite a lot.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:25:16 2013 No.11745488

>>11745470
I just said I really enjoyed it. I don't know about the other VNs of the series themselves and how they are related (perhaps they even aren't). Maybe they're good, maybe not, but I'll probably enjoy them too if I play them. And well, EGS does have high rating for it, no? Not saying that changes anything, but well, it's not like only the west praises it as a kamige.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:26:02 2013 No.11745493 >>11745487 well yeah im fucking talking about translations. look at that list, compared to all the boring vns that are being translated,a game like I/O is on the top of all that shit with 12 riven and Mahoutsukai no Yoru.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:29:32 2013 No.11745497 >>11745487 How good is that anyway? It's been sitting in my backlog for a while. Hopefully I'll pick it up at one point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:31:17 2013 No.11745500 >>11745497 Amatsukaze is excellent, but you should read Eve first.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:31:17 2013 No.11745501

>>11745497
The parts I've seen of it make it look very well written (which is probably true for most of the series), but I'm really bad at things with actual gameplay and these games look a little rapey for my taste, so I probably won't actually get to them for quite a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 20:52:17 2013 No.11745535 >>11743654 I was hoping for 2013 to be that year.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:01:47 2013 No.11745566
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If I had to hypothesize what's going on

1: "realdeal"\"plot with porn" shit will sell outside the usual customer base, however 90% of the time mangagamer is unable to communicate with these people
2: mangagamer's general customer base seems to like softer nukige given eroge and all the softserve shit's success. I hypothesizeimopara will also do well.
3: dark titles seem to be declining. I'd say this is a poor sign for euphoria
4: no one gives a shit about ef because it took three million years

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:05:47 2013 No.11745577 [DELETED]

>>11745566

Oh, and as for DMC's impressive success, I'd say that's down to it being a "gameplay" ero game.

I have nothing to back this up, but I really thing ero games with actual games in them would be very popular. I think the addition of gameplay elements will bring in a lot of people that would otherwise not want to "read" a porn game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:07:02 2013 No.11745582 >>11745580 some dungeon crawler yurige

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:07:17 2013 No.11745580 >>11745577 >>11745566 DMC?

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:08:17 2013 No.11745583

>>11745566

Oh, and as for DMC's impressive success, I'd say that's down to it being a "gameplay" ero game.

I have nothing to back this up, but I really thing ero games with actual games in them would be very popular. I think the addition of gameplay elements will bring in a lot of people that would otherwise not want to "read" a porn game.

That and the low price point

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:10:02 2013 No.11745591 >>11745566 I really liked DMC. Being able to dress Chris up in cute outfits was great.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:10:02 2013 No.11745593

>>11745580

http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=88

I liked the art but the actual ero was kinda mediocre and the gameplay is shit

It also runs like ass because japanese programming

Notable for being a nip-made game using ren'py

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 21:13:17 2013 No.11745604 >>11745583 More than ef probably isn't saying much considering that ef's patch was released like two years before they released HALF the game at an absurd price.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 22:00:22 2013 No.11745715

Speaking of ef, evospace from Mangagamer said regarding hard-copies for it:
>minori was unfortunately against the idea when we suggested making hardcopies for "ef - the fairy tale of two." =/
>Short reason being they think hardcopy involves more legal risks than a download copy...
http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=208#p6962

As expected from minori, they never disappoint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 22:43:24 2013 No.11745824 >>11744964 "since I cannot go further in SubaHibi, I guess I'll just play Cross†Channel"

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 22:46:54 2013 No.11745829

>>11745566
>mangagamer's general customer base seems to like softer nukige given eroge and all the softserve shit's success
I wouldn't say that Eroge is particularly soft but it sure is one of the best nukige available on the market.
>dark titles seem to be declining. I'd say this is a poor sign for euphoria
Doddler posted on his twitter on December 5 "Word is that some of our translators are trying to convince japan it's a good idea. I'm not 100% sure it is, but who knows?"

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 22:48:39 2013 No.11745831 >>11745829 >I wouldn't say that Eroge is particularly soft but it sure is one of the best nukige available on the market. It's not moege or anything, but it's not dark

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 23:54:43 2013 No.11745986 >>11745453 >have you even ever fucking watched the scifi channel? So you only know sci-fi from television? Are you american by any chance?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 04:29:30 2013 No.11746467 >>11732246 What happened with the anime that got people upset enough to translate the VN?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 07:16:25 2013 No.11746703 >I/O only 3 scripts left to edit! QC at 50%!

Anonymous Fri Dec 27 07:51:57 2013 No.11746755

>>11745566
> I'd say this is a poor sign for euphoria
Personally I bought Eroge! to support CLOCKUP deals, and specifically Euphoria, and conveyed that to MangaGamer staff. I'm sure I'm not alone with this sentiment, on forums people are asking for darker CLOCKUP stuff as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 13:38:44 2013 No.11747482 >>11745715 More legal risk than Boob Wars (lolis) or Kara no shoujo (torture, drugs, necro)?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 14:45:45 2013 No.11747616 holy shit, nice. but its not saying that on the progress page, how do you know? the greatest part is that 12 riven is already 40% translated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 15:27:44 2013 No.11747694 >>11745389 >Look at me hating on everything, do I have good taste yet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 17:41:29 2013 No.11748174 >>11746703 where is this news coming from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 18:00:29 2013 No.11748252 >>11748174 His ass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 18:20:32 2013 No.11748329 >>11748174 >>11748252 Edited - 246/249 QC’d - 123/249 http://lemniscatranslations.wordpress.com/progress/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 19:37:03 2013 No.11748658 >>11748329 QC is easy though. It's basically just running through the game and seeing if anything obvious jumps out at you. Shouldn't take longer than a week or two tops.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 20:29:09 2013 No.11748811 >>11744226 >can tell can't tell >>11744265 >Well, good news is that being a PS3 game, it should be possible to undub. Without a modded PS3?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 20:33:11 2013 No.11748822 >>11748811 Who doesn't have a modded PS3 in this day and age?

Anonymous Fri Dec 27 20:51:10 2013 No.11748887

>>11748822
Me.

There's a couple of reasons, but basically, because there's no easy way of obtaining what's needed to mod it in my country, and I don't deem it worth the effort.

I mean, I'm not poor, I have most of the games I could ever want for the thing, and I like supporting developers that make games I like.

With games like P5 (and R;N), it's annoying that I'll have to import and read in Japanese, but it's no deal breaker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 21:24:14 2013 No.11749007 >>11748822 Apparently I can't mod the PS3 I own, though, since it's too new or something. Or maybe I am just dumb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 21:30:14 2013 No.11749024 >>11749007 If the firmware's been updated past a certain point you have to put a chip in it. Also you can only mod Fat PS3s. Well, that's how it was a few years ago anyways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 21:49:29 2013 No.11749085 >>11749024 I don't mind soldering, but yes, it is a slim afaik because the logo does say PS3 only. I guess I'd have to look in a pawn shop or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 22:27:32 2013 No.11749203 >>11749085 >I don't mind soldering I'm an electrical engineer and I do mind. Though I guess that's because I'm lazy as fuck and don't like working with physical stuff anyways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 22:53:32 2013 No.11749287 >>11749203 I tried once and almost burned my house down. Never again. At least Costco was willing to replace the PS3 no questions asked even though it was clearly some burnt out wreckage. Fucking Costco, always looking out for me.

Anonymous Fri Dec 27 23:02:31 2013 No.11749303

I/O final release scheduled tentatively for 1/15/14. Tell your friends!

(Note it could still be pushed back if something pops up at the last minute, but this is assuming the current rate things are going, and a few days to get shit ready for release at the end.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 01:07:56 2013 No.11749623 >>11749303 im not seeing anything saying that on the progress page.

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 01:21:56 2013 No.11749654

>>11747482
Minori is butthurt because NNL released ef despite the C&D notice and now just come with pathetic excuses to not allow uncensored CGs on a Western release. Furthermore, not counting the censorship already present in the VN, they're even hurting the sales by not allowing a hard-copy release that could turn into a limited edition. I'm sure that a lot of people would buy a limited edition of ef - a fairy tale of the two. And yes, I'd be one of these people.

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 03:55:52 2013 No.11749913

>>11749654
>Minori is butthurt because NNL released ef despite the C&D notice and now just come with pathetic excuses to not allow uncensored CGs on a Western release.
It makes more sense to believe that the excuses (stupid as they are) are true, than to believe that a company would rather hold a grudge against people it later hired and take it out on customers and let it cost them money.

Not to mention, why do you want uncensored CGs, anyways? They're shit.

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 05:33:30 2013 No.11750046

>>11749913
>why do you want uncensored CGs, anyways?
I guess it did sound like I care for uncensored CGs. Allow me to clarify. I don't really care for the CGs being censored or not. I even bought both digital versions of ef. Now let me search for that article on Mangagamer blog... http://blog.mangagamer.org/2012/04/19/a-word-about-the-upcoming-ef-release/

>You can imagine what would happen if we were to release a product without mosaics, can’t you? Such data would be leaked back into Japan with almost 100% certainty. With networks now being worldwide, this is only a matter of course. Yet for us, this poses nothing other than a business risk.
>but so long as there are people who refuse to comply with our requests to stop, we are forced to take measures against them as we have to bear responsibility as the developers of our games.
>In other words, if we were to make the uncensored CG available to the world, then some inconsiderate person would extract the data from our archives and leak the CG back into Japan. If it was just the CG alone it might be a different matter, but one can easily imagine that just as many of those fan-translating bishojo games have done, someone would then take the English version’s CG, create a patch that allows one to play the Japanese version with uncensored CG, and spread that across Japan as well.

As you said, they're stupid (and rather paranoid) excuses. But I find it very hard to believe that the incident with C&D notice being ignored isn't related to their actions regarding the Western release. Furthermore, they should know that Mangagamer has contracts with other companies, releases their titles uncensored and those companies (as far as I know) haven't been penalized for doing that.

It does make more sense to think that minori is acting professionally rather than holding a grudge, but given their actions so far, I don't see enough ground to justify that. Specially for not allowing hard-copies.

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 06:14:59 2013 No.11750099

>>11750046
I read that blog post back when it came out too.

Anyways, even if you're saying that Minori is taking passive aggressive actions against its English release instead of being generally misguided, I'd still think the C&D has nothing to do with this.

Not only they already payed NNL for their work and they're not even working with Minori anymore (as far as I know, anyways), but they might be losing on potential returns from that supposedly begrudging investment.

If anything, them being xenophobes in general seems like a more likely theory if you want to believe they have ulterior motives for acting stupid.

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 10:09:12 2013 No.11750440
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>>11743397
>A lot of the cut music was shit that was submitted to R07 to be used in the game.
Bullshit. Ryukishi was a no-name author back when he was writing Higurashi. It wasn't until Higurashi Kai that people submitted music for him to use (and that music was kept AFAIK, though I'm not sure as I used the music patch).

That said, I believe the French translation DID manage to license all of it. But that was a translation done out of passion, not as business.

>>11743391
>Both such games got a voice patch within days of release anyway.
It took a little over a year and a month for Koihime Musou, and it took over 2 years and 3 months for Kara no Shoujo. You can verify the dates yourself with VNDB. If you're talking about unofficial voice patches, that does not excuse the publisher for removing content.

>>11742163
>>11742146
Line count is an inaccurate measure, as different writing styles lead to more or less words per sentence, meaning the same amount of text can be few or many sentences in a different writer's style. (Line count is inaccurate. Some people write short sentences. Some prefer long ones. Short sentence writers have higher line counts. It's a matter of style.)

Although f/sn has a MUCH higher line count than I/O (94,127 vs 54,840 (58%), the difference in script size is a lot less (3.85 MB vs 3.12 MB (81%). Fate/stay night is still clearly longer than I/O, but I/O IS very long (compared to I/O, Ever17 is much shorter at 1.86 MB (60%), Never7 is even shorter and Remember11 is presumably also shorter than Ever17 but I don't have the stats on that one. Steins;Gate is also shorter at 1.78 MB).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 10:13:12 2013 No.11750450 >>11749287 >costco jerk Am I on reddit?

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 10:38:12 2013 No.11750506

>>11745446
>and coincidentally Tsugumi holding that virus
Except, you know, the part where that wasn't a coincidence at all. If it weren't for that virus, Tsugumi wouldn't be there that day.

>>11745467
You have to admit Ever17 and Remember11 excel in the plot department. Never7 ruins the world building for the entire series, and throughout the series the characters are good but not excellent, but plot is one thing you have to admit the infinity series does have.

>>11750099
>If anything, them being xenophobes in general seems like a more likely theory if you want to believe they have ulterior motives for acting stupid.
This is very much true. Minori are a bunch of close-minded, xenophobic and most of all paranoid idiots. They blocked gaijin access to their site, made various xenophobic and paranoid statements regarding gaijin playing their games, they instantly C&Ded when they noticed their projects were being translated, they sued the maker of ExtractData (a tool to rip assets from VNs), all of them with similar justifications. Their current behavior fits this same line of thinking perfectly.

The only strange thing that still surprises me is that MangaGamer got minori to actually work towards a release outside of Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 12:01:03 2013 No.11750656 >>11750506 I don't have to do any such thing. In fact, for the overwhelming majority of Ever17, the plot hardly exists while they're fucking around with kick the can and chicken sandwiches.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 14:24:41 2013 No.11751022 >>11750656 What a bad opinion. Shame on you!

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 14:32:42 2013 No.11751046

>>11750656
the kick the can part was fucking scarey.
>>11750506
never 7 was great, what does it fuck up? it was the beginning of it all and explained the basic part of ever 17. remember 11 was the best game though, it was the deepest one and you had you fucking sit and think of a long time even after the game ended. I/O is gonna be great and deep no matter what, its really only moe likers that hate these games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 14:53:32 2013 No.11751113 >>11750656 >fucking around with kick the can Well, I guess I'm playing it, then. Order does not matter with Infinity series right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 17:10:49 2013 No.11751426 >>11751113 Playing one of the most overrated VNs of all time? Enjoy, I guess.

Anonymous Sat Dec 28 17:36:07 2013 No.11751498

>>11751113
>Order does not matter with Infinity series right?
It doesn't. Only effect order has is that you might like E17 and R11 less if you play N7 first since it introduces bullshit that is unfortunately canon in the other two games.

Also note that E17 is the most well-received one but is considered to have many slow parts, R11 is less well-received but is considered exciting throughout the entire story, and N7 is considered rather average and is a lot more like typical romance VNs.

>>11751046
(Never7 and Ever17 and Remember11) Cure Syndrome is basically a 'get out of plot free' card. If people believe something happens, it happens! Before N7 was translated there was speculation about things like why Ever17's life counter was inconsistent or why Hokuto lost his memory, but Never7 basically makes the canon answer to those questions 'because we said so'. Ever wonder why Blick Winkel or Self exist? CURE SYNDROME! Ever wonder how Cure Virus came to exist? CURE SYNDROME! Ever wonder why Coco can communicate with BW? CURE SYNDROME! The answer to everything can be 'CURE SYNDROME!' and for all we know it could be the canon answer. Having Cure Syndrome in any universe means that any asspull can happen in that universe for no reason whatsoever.

Fortunately, I/O does not use infinity series canon as far as I'm aware.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 18:38:40 2013 No.11751645 >I/O editing is now complete! Time to move on to the final phase of the project! Tell me, /jp/, what is the 'final phase' of this project? Are they going to sell out to JAST or are they going to retranslate the entire game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 18:46:40 2013 No.11751669 >>11751426 Why would it been overrated or otherwise lower my enjoyment out of it? I'm not a faggot. >>11751498 Fine, E17>R11>N7 it is then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 20:39:00 2013 No.11751944 >>11751645 Sounds like it's time for a round of quality checking to me

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 20:45:01 2013 No.11751964 >>11751944 At least three. And then post QC editing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 20:47:32 2013 No.11751971 >>11751964 >>11751944 Don't forget Making Installer!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 20:56:47 2013 No.11752000 >>11730516 no it is kusoge. Almost all the characters are insufferable and the few good ones aren't worth slogging through the boredom and pretentiousness for.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 02:35:21 2013 No.11752764 File: 731 KB, 800x600, 1388302502250.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11752000 I dropped it at chapter 1 because of this bitch. It's hard to enjoy a romance story when you hate the love interest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 05:36:01 2013 No.11753054 I/O editing complete!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 02:49:59 2013 No.11755548 File: 59 KB, 800x600, bestend.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11752764 my nigga This was the ONLY enjoyable part of Chapter 1. Aside from that one CG of her cursing him out at his funeral in super-deformed mode.

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