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VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun Jun 29 00:30:56 2014 No.12230382 [Reply] [Original]

Visual Novel translation status

>12Riven- 40/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
Air (Project 1)- Released 2nd Beta patch and 45% through QC
Amaenbo - Being translated
>Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "492/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (25%)"
>Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 5% translated
Anniversary no Kuni no Alice - 49% translated, 27% edited
Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: roughly 53% (588 KB of 1.12 MB)"
Cannonball - 36243/36902 (98.21%) lines translated
>Chichi Miko Plus 1 - Released
Clover Day - 266/648 KB of the common route + 37/722 KB of a route translated
Cocoro Function - 13941/53644 (25.99%) lines translated
>Comyu - 49434/51433 (96.11%) lines translated, Second partial patch out
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 74.6% validated, Full patch with unvalidated text released
Flyable Heart- 14.61% translated in new translation project
Fortune Arterial- Prologue completly translated, patches for Shiro, Kiriha and Kanade routes released. Erika route 65% done. Haruna route 80% done.
Fukai ni Nemuru Oujo no Abaddon - translation started
Galzoo Island - Being translated
Grisaia no Meikyuu - 208/2797 (7.44%) KB translated, 140/2797 (5.00%) edited
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
>Hatsukoi 1/1 - Beint translated
Hatsuyuki Sakura - 19.4% (7525/38793) lines translated

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun Jun 29 00:31:08 2014 No.12230383

>Kichikuou Rance - 81.9% translated and edited
>Killer Queen: all scripts translated and 43/72 scripts edited, plans also include translating Secret Game and Rebellion
Koichoco- 390/397 files translated, 208/397 files edited, Common/Chisato/Satsuki/Michiru routes fully translated, Common + Chisato patch released
>Koiken Otome - 77.41% translated, 40.50% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 12554/36312 (34.56%) lines translated, Common + Umi route translated
Kourin no Machi - 18361/36959 (49.6%) lines translated
>Kud Wafter - 11789/33132 (35.58%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 53.7% translated
>Lamune - Nanami route partial patch released
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated
>Magical Marriage Lunatics - 1.08% finished
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Fully translated, in TLC
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Muv-Luv TDA00 - 33% partial patch released
Oreimo PSP - 290/299 scripts translated, 158/299 through TLC+Editing, 158/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - Youtube based project, Kirino part 26, Ayase part 23
Otomaid Cafe - 63.9% translated
PersonA - 36% translated
Princess Maker 5- 91.4% translated, 37.1% finalized
>Prism Ark - Chapter 1-7 translated, progress stalled because of technical issues
Pure Pure- Fully translated, 77.26% edited, 64.60% ready for testing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 00:32:05 2014 No.12230385 Sagarino

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun Jun 29 00:32:44 2014 No.12230388

>Rance Quest - 9.79% messages and 49.57% strings translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 3341/14309 (23.3%) lines translated
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- Fully translated and edited
Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 10- 17/18 scripts translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 47664/53520 (89.0%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
Sukisho! - First Limit - 72.66% translated
Supreme Candy - ~14273/43261 (~33.0%) lines translated
>Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 11961/19644 = 60.89% lines translated
Tenshin Ranman - Prologue patch released, 1829.2/4560 (40.1%) translated
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Walkure Romanze - 4,268/8037 lines of the prologue translated
Witch's Garden - 3984/67202 (5.92%) lines translated
>White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 2478/35275 (7.02%) lines translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated and edited, 54% QC, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 63.60%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 73.62%, Motoka 30.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Your Diary- Prologue patch released, common route fully translated, 11/19 scripts translated for Yua's route, 1/10 scrpts translated of Kanade's route

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun Jun 29 00:33:59 2014 No.12230390

Official work

MangaGamer
Armored Warrior Iris - July 18th release
Imouto Paradise - In Beta
Hitozuma Nurse - Beta complete
>D2B vs Deardrops - Beta complete
Royal Guard Melissa - In scripting
Princess Evangile - Fully translated and edited, in scripting
Cartagra - editing complete, in scripting
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 10.4% translated, 4.3% edited
>Space Pirate Sara - Fully translated, 73% edited
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
>Bokuten - 31.2% translated, 10.1% edited
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Chapter 0 complete, Common route 7.2% translated, 19.4% translated overall
Higurashi (retranslation) - 6% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
Kyoudai Hiai - Picked up
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - Picked up
>3 announcements planned for AX, 2 for Otakon

JAST
>Osadai fandisc - Golden master, July release
Hanachirasu - 99% complete, next from Jast
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Mostly translated
Starless - In translation
>Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Romanesque - In translation
Shiny Days - Translation finished
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapters 2 and 3 picked up
Fault -milestone one- - Picked up

Other
Danganronpa 2 - Picked up
Moenovel is working on another title
Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Tears to Tiara II - Picked up
>OZMAFIA - Official release planned
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.org/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 00:50:38 2014 No.12230409 >Trample on Schatten- translation about half done Sasuga moogy-dono

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:01:30 2014 No.12230485 The best thread of the week is finally here! ...Is what I used to say years ago, but I don't give much of a fuck nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:05:00 2014 No.12230488 Why even include the tracker info anymore if it doesn't get updated?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:06:12 2014 No.12230493 >>12230382 >Beint translated

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:06:51 2014 No.12230495 empress has released 3 new games now and jast still hasn't finished with starless. what's even going on over there? does peter payne just not have anyone working?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:07:54 2014 No.12230497 >>12230485 Why are you still regularly visiting this thread after YEARS if you don't even care? Get a life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:36:49 2014 No.12230532 Funny how people complain about fan translators just making lines up, yet NISA does exactly that in their official releases and nobody's got anything negative to say.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:38:29 2014 No.12230537 >>12230532 Could you be any more clueless?

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:45:29 2014 No.12230553

>>12230488

Tinfoil's at Disney working so it won't be updated until September perhaps. But I literally don't understand though how the tracker isn't automated to find and update information from these threads weekly. Didn't VNTLS have a scraper? Why did it just stop?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:51:01 2014 No.12230568 Popotan at 2%. Only 10 more years to go!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:53:44 2014 No.12230575 >>12230553 >I literally don't understand As opposed to figuratively understanding, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 02:56:17 2014 No.12230579 >>12230575 Please don't bully. He literally used "literally" the correct way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 03:06:06 2014 No.12230592 >>12230537 Could you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 03:06:11 2014 No.12230593 >>12230579 Literally using a word literally correctly doesn't mean your sentence isn't literally needlessly verbose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 03:12:25 2014 No.12230599 >>12230495 Still trying to decide how much they have to cut to get it releases. JAST version of Starless will be 10 minutes long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 03:14:27 2014 No.12230604 >>12230593 It's okay. If I didn't like reading things that are needlessly verbose, I wouldn't be in a VN thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 05:11:45 2014 No.12230750 >>12230604 oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 05:30:54 2014 No.12230780 Isn't it safe to assume the LB EX project is dead? The last update was 10 months ago

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 05:33:34 2014 No.12230784 How is Lamune?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 06:24:48 2014 No.12230850 >>12230784 Sweet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 06:30:12 2014 No.12230854 >>12230784 Very tasty.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 06:50:29 2014 No.12230884 >>12230784 non-h

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 07:33:59 2014 No.12230930 >>12230850 >>12230854 >>12230884 One of these posts is not like the others.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 07:41:41 2014 No.12230933 File: 89 KB, 800x600, 1389142717416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230850 >>12230854 >>12230884

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 07:54:01 2014 No.12230955 I'm going to bed. Stay dry, /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 08:06:28 2014 No.12230967 File: 93 KB, 369x480, 32f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12230933

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 08:47:28 2014 No.12231012 >>12230933 >>12230967 What even are these?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 08:49:53 2014 No.12231017 >>12231012 >jpg >png they are videos anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 08:53:53 2014 No.12231021 >>12231017 You think pretty highly of yourself for an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 08:55:42 2014 No.12231022 >>12231021 same to you bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 09:01:06 2014 No.12231028 >>12231022 >22 same

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 09:06:33 2014 No.12231033

>>12230488
>>12230497
>>12230537
>>12230575
>>12230579
>>12230592
>>12230593
>>12230604
>>12230750
>>12231017
>>12231021
>>12231022
>>12231028

Why just shitpost the thread if you have nothing to share that's on topic? Is that how low people want to go because there's nothing going on in the community? Might as well hear more comments on how dead the scene is or how some project has horrible translations because at least some effort is made into those posts being some kind of discussion instead of just seeing useless and passive agressive posts for no apparent reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 09:13:41 2014 No.12231041 >>12231033 >33 What did you just say about me?

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 09:15:00 2014 No.12231043

>>12231033
This isn't just a problem with the thread. It's a problem with /jp/, and perhaps 4chan as a whole. This place has fostered such horrible attitudes.

Thankfully /jp/'s discussions aren't very representative of the scene. For people actually enjoying themselves and not posting meaningless shit, /vg/ seems to be the place to go.

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 09:23:34 2014 No.12231049

>>12231043

/jp/'s discussions are mundane but they aren't horrible. Nice image dumps, information sharing, and discussion on topic most of the time. But most of the VN threads just have these kind of shitposts now; VNTLS, the VN general and Nukige threads. The posts I quoted above are something you should see in /s4s/ that have no bearing here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 10:02:03 2014 No.12231078 >>12231049 /s4s/ shouldn't even exist in the first place. What purpose in there is a board made specifically for shitposting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 10:15:48 2014 No.12231088 File: 316 KB, 500x526, fucks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12231033

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 10:18:22 2014 No.12231090 >>12231078 Moot probably thinks that more /b/'s will keep shitposters concentrated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 10:30:28 2014 No.12231099 >Princess Maker 5- 91.4% translated, 37.1% finalized Waiting warmly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 10:51:00 2014 No.12231121 >>12230780 But it got updated like two weeks ago, and one of the original translators returned and is doing tlc reports on their twitter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 10:54:21 2014 No.12231124 >>12231121 that's cool! I was checking their doki site tho

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 15:35:18 2014 No.12231477 >>12231090 Soon we will be redubbed /jb/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 15:36:21 2014 No.12231481 >>12231477 And everyone will be disappointed it's not the board for what they think it is.

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 15:42:18 2014 No.12231486

>>12230884
>If I end up doing the PC version myself, nothing will be cut from the game but the explicit scenes will not be translated.
http://zoom909.blog.fuckyoumoot.spot.com/2014/04/changes-to-project.html

>He didn't just not translate them, he REMOVED them. As soon as a pixelated vagina is supposed to appear on screen, the scene simply ends. I don't even know if one can get 100% CG while using the English patch.
http://vndb.org/t4761

What the figurative fuck. Is this real?
I can still understand MoeNovel butchering poor Konosora for the imaginary sales, but this is simply beyond me.

...alright, you've got issues with jamming p〇n〇s in vag〇〇. Fine, that's your undeniable human right. But why do you have to force your retardation onto the authors' target audience, which you clearly aren't a part of?
Unless you're from (or catering to) Fuwanovel-tier biomass, of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 15:52:45 2014 No.12231505 Fan Translation should be stopped. What they're doing is disrespect to the original creator and ruin the vn experience.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 16:05:28 2014 No.12231534 >>12231486 Probably an uninformed post. Removing parts from a scene needs a lot more technical expertise than just ripping and inserting text.

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 16:13:18 2014 No.12231558

>>12231534
I hope so (downloading the game ATM), but there's absolutely nothing complicated in taking GOTONEXTSCRIPT command from the end of the script and inserting it somewhere in the middle (or, in this case, in the beginning of the script most likely).
Why does the only NNS game that could theoretically get proper English translation have to suffer this much?

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 16:16:23 2014 No.12231567

>>12231558
I don't understand how you can get angry when you just heard someone called surferdude type make the claims. If there's anything I learn about the VN scene, it's that the readers are dumb as a brick, cannot into reading comprehension and believes in rumors too easily.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 16:31:42 2014 No.12231610 >>12231567 I wouldn't bother checking generally, but there are similar comments on TL's blog and I'm not totally indifferent towards NekoNekoSoft works. I'll report back here on the censorship allegations when I see it with my own eyes.

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 17:37:34 2014 No.12231744

>>12231558
>>12231567
The Killer Queen translation project is doing the same.
>http://lemniscatranslations.wordpress.com/killer-queen/
>NOTE: This translation will not include any ero content. However, references to ero content itself will remain. Furthermore, this is still not recommended to anyone under the age of 17 due to heavy sexual themes, as well as written depictions of graphic violence.

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 17:48:20 2014 No.12231758

>>12231744
Why does it seem like so many people have hang-ups about ero content in VNs? Does anyone here understand this mindset? If they don't like ero content, they should stick to manga/anime/LNs, of which there are plenty to enjoy and/or translate if they're interested.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 17:52:08 2014 No.12231764 >>12231758 I personally don't really care about ero content, but I just wanted to let people know. I do care about censoring however, and I agree with >>12231486

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:05:25 2014 No.12231781 >>12231043 >not posting meaningless shit, /vg/ seems to be the place to go good 1 m7

Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:16:16 2014 No.12231794

>>12231558
That's assuming the scripts are unpacked into plaintext script files. It's also possible for the scripts to have been compiled into some sort of custom bytecode, and reversing the text (which tends to be in plaintext after encryption is broken) and its length is a lot easier than reversing all of the possible commands.

Also, even with complete plaintext scripts, often it's not GOTONEXTSCRIPT but rather 'goto ch01_15a', so you'd at least have to understand the script flow (which is sometimes also in a different file to which it reverts after the script ends). Not to mention cleaning up loaded assets (background, sprites, etc) which is not always done automatically on scene change.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:18:50 2014 No.12231795 >>12230409 moogy isn't the translator...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:49:57 2014 No.12231828 File: 38 KB, 617x188, Screen Shot 2014-06-29 at 3.49.08 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another hint?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:53:26 2014 No.12231833 Popotan at 2%. Only 10 more years to go!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:55:55 2014 No.12231836 >>12231833 What's the ETA on Pure Pure?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 18:58:37 2014 No.12231843 >>12231828 BALDR SKY CONFIRMED

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:15:26 2014 No.12231869 >>12231828 So it's either Inganock or Sola-Nyl, huh. Or, if that other hint was for No, thank you, then it might be Gakthun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:16:31 2014 No.12231871 >>12231869 Furukawa has been in all of the wab games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:19:51 2014 No.12231877 >>12231871 I don't think they'd go for Celenaria or Valusia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:21:42 2014 No.12231878 File: 192 KB, 800x600, capture_005_18062014_133124.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12231877 They should do celenaria imo. That game really doesn't get the love it deserves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:30:47 2014 No.12231892 >>12230382 >Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "492/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (25%)" Woah, was the % always this high? Wasn't it like at 4% last week?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:33:42 2014 No.12231899 File: 63 KB, 386x839, 123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ded thread. Ded board. Ded scene. Weekly reminder.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:36:25 2014 No.12231907 >>12231899 Maybe you wouldn't have such a hard time with your exams if you spent less time shitposting here and on twitter, insem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:37:29 2014 No.12231911 http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/113619504881 Seinarukana is apparently in testing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 19:41:06 2014 No.12231915 >>12231877 They'd be worth for a mega pack of the series, barring Gakhtun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 20:56:19 2014 No.12232053 >>12231911 Yeah, and Sumaga is fully translated and in editing. Only five more years to go!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 21:22:46 2014 No.12232097 >>12231911 when is that fucker going to be done with cartagra?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 22:29:10 2014 No.12232176 >Hatsukoi 1/1 Hells yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 22:54:24 2014 No.12232222 >>12232176 >Youtube translations

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 29 23:17:00 2014 No.12232248 >>12230390 >OZMAFIA - Official release planned Oh. I'm actually a bit interested. Looks like it'll probably be another "Engrish via the original dev" kind of release though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 01:56:46 2014 No.12232474 >>12231911 We already knew that from Aroduc. If by "In Testing" you mean completely bugged up the ass unplayable.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:02:06 2014 No.12232492

>>12231758
Because ero content is almost always hamhandedly shoved into visual novels just to make money from a certain subset of otaku that buys said games in droves. These scenes add nothing to, and often detract from, an otherwise good plot. There is absolutely nothing lost from removing them unless the game itself revolves around ero, in which case they will obviously not be removed.

I find it more disturbing that there are so many people like you who get up in arms about this situation. It's pretty much a given that if someone cares about an English translated visual novel, they care about it for the plot and not the sex scenes. If ero is what you're looking for, you could play the game in Japanese with no knowledge of the language and lose absolutely nothing from the experience.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:06:53 2014 No.12232508

>>12232492
I actually find it disturbing that people care enough to cut out the supposed "hamfisted" ero cutscenes, if they mean nothing, just leave them there, okay?

But yeah, it's better to learn japanese and experience shit yourself anyway, that's a good advance.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:07:25 2014 No.12232510 >>12232492 What about people who like to be able to fap to characters after getting attached to them by means of the plot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:07:54 2014 No.12232512 >>12232508 >that's a good advice*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:09:24 2014 No.12232515 >>12232492 The medium could be so much more!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:09:37 2014 No.12232517 >>12232492 Prude detected

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:10:46 2014 No.12232521 >>12232508 In some games the eroscenes are so bad and came at such a wrong time that they detract from the experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:12:27 2014 No.12232528 >>12232521 >are so bad and came at such a wrong time I'm sorry but that's for the individual readers to decide, not the translator. If they are so bad, you can always click fast to skip them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:12:36 2014 No.12232529 >>12232521 Then you should play games by better writers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:15:51 2014 No.12232540 >>12232521 Then the writing won't be good enough to carry the VN without the porn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:18:03 2014 No.12232544 I dislike any form of censorship, and removing ero scenes IS censorship.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:18:32 2014 No.12232545

>>12232492
Its almost impossible for writer to tie sex/porn with good plot ( unless you count things like mana transfer as ''good'' plot device ).
>I find it more disturbing that there are so many people like you who get up in arms about this situation. It's pretty much a given that if someone cares about an English translated visual novel, they care about it for the plot and not the sex scenes. If ero is what you're looking for, you could play the game in Japanese with no knowledge of the language and lose absolutely nothing from the experience.
Thats not even an arguments its opinion.
And it can be turned around like this:
I find it more disturbing that there are so many people like you who get up in arms about this situation. It's pretty much a given that if someone cares about visual novel, they care about it for the plot and sex scenes.
If ero is not what you are looking for, then you can just read a proper book or LN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:19:43 2014 No.12232548 If you want to translate a VN but don't want to translate the porn, do the all-ages version. If there's no all-ages version, either translate something else or fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:23:54 2014 No.12232554 >>12232548 yeah, that's the way. And complaining that a porn game has porn in it is just stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:19:58 2014 No.12232648 >>12232097 http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/113740912881

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:24:27 2014 No.12232657 >>12231869 Guess who is voicing the protag of NTY.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:29:14 2014 No.12232669 >>12232548 He's From Fuwanovel by the way.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:42:43 2014 No.12232697

>>12232548
Clearly it's better to not have a game translated at all than have only the plot translated, right? I mean, who even cares about the plot, the porn is far more important, if you're not going to have that you might as well not play the VN at all.

I wonder how many of the 'censorship!!' people here actually play VNs (and I don't mean it in the 'I played Katawa Shoujo and Fate/stay night!' way).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:44:16 2014 No.12232700 >>12232697 I care about the plot AND the PLOT, I want the whole package.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:44:34 2014 No.12232701 >>12232697 >Caring about plot in vn >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:47:26 2014 No.12232707 >>12232701 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:50:07 2014 No.12232713 >>12232697 I could just give you a synopsis of all the games you want that will never be translated. I mean, it's better than nothing right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:52:28 2014 No.12232717 I just hate cutting content. If a translator said they hated multiple endings, so they cut all but one, it would have the same reaction.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:53:47 2014 No.12232719

>>12232713
If it would genuinely never be translated, then yes, that would be a lot better than nothing. However, I don't want to hear them because there's a good chance those things will be translated after some time, providing a superior experience to the synopsis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:53:54 2014 No.12232720 >>12232717 Multiple endings are detrimental to the plot and are almost always hamhandedly shoved in.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:54:42 2014 No.12232724

>>12232697
Clearly it's better to not have translators to bucher original than have only part of the vn mistranslated, right? I mean, who even cares about what orinial autor wanted the fan translator own view is far more important, if you're not going to have that you might as well not play the vn at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:56:10 2014 No.12232727 >>12232720 This is actually true a lot of the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:56:33 2014 No.12232728 File: 334 B, 44x18, (1)_jp_-_Visual_Novel_translation_status_12Riven-_40_72_scripts_translat..._-_2014-06-30_10.56.10.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12232707

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 03:59:20 2014 No.12232733 >>12232648 I hadn't expected it to be that much longer. Although I suppose it would be fitting if the game were to be released around the time the weather becomes colder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:00:17 2014 No.12232736 >>12232727 >no porn >no multiple endings If you honestly think like this, maybe you should follow the advice and read books or something man.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:06:31 2014 No.12232749

>>12232736
Hey, I never said I didn't like porn or multiple endings, but I can't deny that both are frequently half-assed. That's what happens when the medium is full of hack writers. Suggesting that either should be cut from translations is all kinds of retarded, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:08:13 2014 No.12232755 >>12232719 >there's a good chance those things will be translated after some time That's a funny joke.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:08:30 2014 No.12232757 >>12232749 Every medium is full of hack writers, which is why the good stuff is precious.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:25:40 2014 No.12232784

>>12232755
It's been a funny joke since I started following the translation scene back in 2008 and it's always been funnier when the things thought to never be translated were translated. Shuffle would only get troll patches, Muv-Luv was unhackable, Higurashi would never finish, the rest of the infinity series and related games would never get a translation, Steins;Gate would never be picked up because JAST and would never get an official release because JAST, and so on and so forth. Even Minori of all companies officially released English-translated games. You never know exactly what will happen, but most of the really notable games do get translated at some point; the question is 'when', not 'if'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:29:12 2014 No.12232788 >>12232784 Good examples, but there are a shitload of stuff that have synopsis but never translation, except such as Kiminozo or various Elf nukige, etc The scene might be more active nowadays, but getting a synopsis isn't sure call for translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:30:14 2014 No.12232790 >>12232788 >except Examples*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:32:32 2014 No.12232797 >>12232784 How do you decide what's a "notable" game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:34:24 2014 No.12232802 >>12232797 It's notable if it gets a translation.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:39:14 2014 No.12232809

>>12232797
People talk about it a lot in a positive way. The more people talk about it in a positive way, the greater the chances of it being translated. Which makes sense, since translators are more likely to like those games enough to translate them.

Clearly there's no hope for generic moege; if you're hoping for a specific moege you can't really expect it to be translated ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:40:46 2014 No.12232811 >>12232809 So basically, this>>12232802

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:44:14 2014 No.12232818 >>12232784 At this rate we need like 5 times more companies than MG/JAST to get that glorious ''when'' in our lifetime. Getting my ( imaginary ) grandchildren to read Sumaga is not much of a joy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:44:35 2014 No.12232819 >>12232809 Well I hope 「お隣の黒人夫に抱かれて啼き悶える最愛の妻。その引き換えに味わう黒人妻の肌。 -Big Black Cock & Big Black Butt & My Sweet Wife-」 gets translated soon, because the VN general seems to love it.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:46:11 2014 No.12232823

I generally don't give a shit if the porn and multiple endings are bad, I just want the whole package, to see the whole thing.

Cutting contents because the translator himself thinks they are bad/inappropriate is not how a translator should do his work, even if he works for free.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:47:57 2014 No.12232829

>>12232809
> most of the really notable games do get translated at some point; the question is 'when', not 'if'.

This has been discussed many times and is simply wrong. Most of the VNs that non-EOPs consider best are yet untranslated with no signs of being translated, and those that are translated are usually horrible messes like the cross channel translations.

Of course, if anyone can provide a good English translation of this very short segment, I will concede that all good VNs could eventually be translated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGXS4wNm-Qs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 04:52:35 2014 No.12232836 It's cute when EOPs think they have any clue which games are notable. Especially somewhat older stuff barely gets any discussion on the English-speaking Internet even if it's really good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:08:24 2014 No.12232860 VNTS always have "these people" man. Better stick to VN general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:10:23 2014 No.12232867 >>12232860 But I use this thread for my funposting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:16:36 2014 No.12232875 >>12232829 >Most of the VNs that non-EOPs consider best are yet untranslated with no signs of being translated Just what obscure list are you going by here? Your own?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:16:51 2014 No.12232876 >>12232867 That might explain it somewhat.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:25:18 2014 No.12232892

>>12232875
There's no definitive list of course, vndb is full of EOPs so its bayesian averages are meaningless, and EGS is full of stema so is equally meaningless, but lets check out some users, shall we?

http://vndb.org/u15/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote
http://vndb.org/u34820/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote
http://vndb.org/u44918/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:26:54 2014 No.12232895

>>12232697
There are alot of things I can say here, but I'll stick with something simple; even fuwanovel thinks you're retarded. When even fuwanovel thinks you're stupid, it might be time to take a step back and think that maybe there's a flaw in your argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:28:34 2014 No.12232900 >>12232892 'Sup Habluka. Any progress on Supreme Candy lately?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:33:22 2014 No.12232908 >>12232900 I'm not Habluka and think he has shit taste, but I figured it was good to include someone who's taste I disagree with to be more objective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:34:00 2014 No.12232909 >>12232892 Japanese are a much better representative of the "non-EOP" community than moogy-dono.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:44:07 2014 No.12232926

>>12232909
Okay, how about these random egs accounts.

http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/user_infomation.php?user=wilhelm3933
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/user_infomation.php?user=kihane
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/user_infomation.php?user=sukai5
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/user_infomation.php?user=ryuto

anyway it doesn't take anything special to tell that no mareni/masada/akatsuki works/ou jackson/etc is translated

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 05:54:29 2014 No.12232943 File: 1.25 MB, 300x150, HAHA.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12232784 >An EOP thinks he can judge which is "notable game"

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:08:02 2014 No.12232960

>>12232508
Hamfisted means they are clumsily implemented, which certainly is not the same as meaning nothing. When their presence hurts the overall quality of the VN, yeah, I can see why they'd be removed. Especially because in the west, that lets the VN to be sold to a wider audience (which is interesting, since these worthless scenes were put in to appeal to a wider audience in the first place).

>>12232510
You can do this separately, just like with everything else.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:12:24 2014 No.12232968

Wait, are you guys making fun of the word hamhanded? Have you seriously never heard of that word? What's next, you're gonna say you don't know what just deserts means? Oh wait, that already happened.

Reminds me of when I said "grievously" once and a bunch of retards thought I was talking about Star Wars.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:17:30 2014 No.12232979 >>12232528 No, I'm pretty sure that's for the translator to decide, since he's the one working on the patch. If you don't like it, make your own patch or don't read it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:17:48 2014 No.12232981 >>12232960 And if a translator decides a certain fight scene is hurting the quality of the VN? Or there are too many shitty puns? Maybe if this was written in third person it would be a better read?

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:47:13 2014 No.12233023

Notability is a subjective thing, that most of all depends on the group to which it is or isn't notable. For example, Sengoku Rance isn't a notable game if you look at mainstream gaming, but it's definitely notable among eroge in pretty much all eroge communities. Among different VN and eroge communities, opinion on what is notable is split as well; Umineko won't ring a bell for all that many Japanese players, but it's unthinkable to be part of an English-language VN community and not know what Umineko is. The 'notable games' I referred to are the games notable to the people around the translation scene; people on /jp/, on the relevant IRC channels, and so on.

>>12232892
Moogy rates games lower for having been translated and avoids translated games, so let's go with the second list:

Baldr Sky - 2009, untranslated
Asairo - 2009, untranslated
Ruitomo - 2008, untranslated
Mahoyo - 2012, being translated
Senshinkan - 2014, untranslated
Ruitomo fandisc - 2010, untranslated
Eustia - 2010, partially translated
MLA - 2006, translated
Yu-No - 1996, translated
Rewrite - 2011, translated
& - 2012, untranslated
Symphonic Rain - 2004, translated
Gahkthun - 2012, untranslated
Grisaia - 2011, translated
Sharin - 2005, translated
Dra+KoI - 2006, translated
f/sn - 2004, translated
Forest - 2004, translated
Inganock - 2007, translated
Steins;Gate - 2009, translated
Saya no Uta - 2003, translated
Clannad - 2004, translated
Daitoshokan - 2012, untranslated
Danganronpa - 2010, translated
Duel Savior - 2004, translated
G-Senjou - 2008, translated
Monmusu Quest 3 - 2013, translated
Rewrite Fandisc - 2012, untranslated
Swan Song - 2005, translated

And so on. Do you notice a pattern? EVERY SINGLE GAME on the list before 2008 has been translated. Even for 2008, there is only one exception. Most of the untranslated games are very recent, with 5 of them from 2012 even, out of 11 total. (Two of those are respectively being translated and about to enter translation soon.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:49:10 2014 No.12233026 >>12232960 >>12232979 That's fine actually, if the translator just cut out ero scenes/contents because he deems them "hamhanded" or whatever the reason, I don't want to use his translation anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:50:22 2014 No.12233028 >>12233023 Keep dreaming.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:56:29 2014 No.12233038

>>12232981
Were the fight scenes and the puns thrown in despite the author not liking them because otherwise fans would boycott the game?

It's no secret that a lot of developers want to ditch H-scenes but are simply unable to due to financial repercussions. When a company becomes very successful, they tend to drop their porn as well. Other times, companies try to make non-porn games, but they run a huge risk that could bankrupt them by doing so. VN fans are the worst customers, dooming a company to bankruptcy if they deviate too much from the accepted formula. (It doesn't even have to be porn - Overdrive nearly went bankrupt because fans didn't buy a drama game that wasn't the usual 'yay let's form a band EVERYTHING'S OKAY BECAUSE POWER OF MUSIC' fare. They recovered by pandering in the most basic of ways, offering to remake a popular earlier title.)

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:58:35 2014 No.12233044
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>>12233023
>The 'notable games' I referred to are the games notable to the people around the translation scene; people on /jp/, on the relevant IRC channels, and so on.
You're moving more and more towards "It's notable if it gets a translation".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 06:59:40 2014 No.12233046 >>12233023 Moogy taste is shit.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:03:03 2014 No.12233050

>>12233044
The VNs notable *here* are often untranslated, but they are likely to get a translation. That is because they are notable here. It doesn't magically become notable in the past if in the future there will be a translation of it, common opinion is that causality doesn't work that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:04:31 2014 No.12233053 >>12233044 I think you should explain what list is that. You don't expect EOP to read moon. Basically that list is 2ch Top 20 Eroge which is voted by japanese people and obviously more credible than moogy shitty taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:06:32 2014 No.12233056 >>12233038 So you get to decide whether or not the devs wanted ero in their eroge?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:06:50 2014 No.12233058 >>12233053 But moogy's taste corresponds well to the list top games, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:17:43 2014 No.12233076 >>12233053 Yeah, but then I'd have to translate the whole chart.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:23:03 2014 No.12233086 >>12233058 Not really, for example Rewrite (which is overrated shit here),Drakoi and ignacock isn't on the list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:26:43 2014 No.12233092 >>12233086 Inganock's in fourth place for 2007.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:28:50 2014 No.12233095 >>12233092 Oh well, i missed that one. Since i just scanned through the first word on list. Still, moogy taste is shit.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:31:14 2014 No.12233099

>>12233086
Rewrite is not an eroge and therefore excluded from 2ch's ranking. (And 2ch eats up Key, LBEX was 5th for the heavily competitive 2008, and even Tomoyo After got #20 for 2005.) Dra+KoI was not included because it never got a separate release; it's a minor side story in a package with spin-off games. Sekien no Inganock is on the list, #4 for 2007 after Kira Kira and Katahane.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:33:03 2014 No.12233102 >>12233023 for the record, the only reason there are so many english games on there is because I went into JP ones directly after reading all the english ones I was interested in. thats it. anyways just thought i'd randomly pop in to say that.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:37:02 2014 No.12233109

>>12233086
If you want to be picky about Moogy not being representative to Japan's taste, do yourself a favor and at least mention he has a hate fetish for Vio, whereas plenty of people are fond of him there, and has no real interest for most Key games. At any rate, just simply use actual sources that represent mainstream opinion better like 2ch or EGS (they probably have some top rating system for each year too).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:40:24 2014 No.12233117 >>12233044 Damn, someone need to translate Daiakujii, I only watch the H OVAs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 07:45:03 2014 No.12233129 File: 559 KB, 1280x720, eve_100203.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wow moogy liking moege like Daitoshokan?i thought he only likes pretentious shit like CC and SubaHibi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 10:41:51 2014 No.12233392 >>12232809 A generic moege came out just last week, idiot. Granted, it's not a translation, but a re-write, but it's something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 11:43:20 2014 No.12233481 >>12232545 >Its almost impossible for writer to tie sex/porn with good plot ( unless you count things like mana transfer as ''good'' plot device ). What? Sex is a part of romance so it naturally fits in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 11:45:46 2014 No.12233483 >>12233481 Don't worry, they are just stupid kids that don't know the fact, that sex is a normal part of life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 11:57:26 2014 No.12233504 >>12233483 >>12233481 Thanks god experts on real life romance and sex are finally here! Care to share your rich and wonderful adult experience with a kid?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 12:00:41 2014 No.12233510 >>12233504 If sex is so bad for you, then the Internet is the wrong place. You should stay in your basement without TV or even books (yes, even in books characters can have sex!)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 12:04:06 2014 No.12233514 >>12233510 Don't bully. Just tell me your adult stories im sure you had a lot to share.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 12:20:38 2014 No.12233536 File: 118 KB, 720x480, heresy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12232545

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 16:45:16 2014 No.12233938 >>12232545 >Its almost impossible for writer to tie sex/porn with good plot Sex has been a part of pulp entertainment for a hundred years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 16:54:05 2014 No.12233950 http://staffnote.ponipa.com/?eid=181 Gotta fire up 'em torrents.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:12:29 2014 No.12233979 >Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 74.6% validated, Full patch with unvalidated text released WHAT. Where? Meidolab and TLWiki have been down for months?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:22:27 2014 No.12234002 >>12233979 were you out cold last week? You'd still want to wait at least to the end of the year, PSV version will have a voice acting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:27:15 2014 No.12234012 >>12234002 Working double shifts does that to you. That's okay about the Vita version. It won't be translated and I don't have a JP account on my thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:33:28 2014 No.12234024 >>12234012 Think they meant that (hopefully) the voices from PSV version might eventually be ripped and patched into PC version, similar to what was done with adding Realta Nua voices to PC F/SN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:36:33 2014 No.12234037 >>12234024 Doubt it. If nobody wants to take the time to translate the damn thing, I don't see why they'd rip voices for it. By the way, the BL thread is filled with hilarity from all sides.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:38:58 2014 No.12234044 >>12234037 >By the way, the BL thread is filled with hilarity from all sides. How so? (unable to check at the moment)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:48:09 2014 No.12234063 >>12233950 No. It's going to be an official release, so you'd have no use for the original Japanese game. It's probably going to be released by Mangagamer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:50:50 2014 No.12234069 >>12234037 BL thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 17:54:44 2014 No.12234072 >>12234069 Everyone is GAR for Archer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:01:23 2014 No.12234085 >>12234063 Being all ages, another project for Dovac is also possible.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:03:26 2014 No.12234092
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>>12234044
Correction: The TL/QC guy is taking his sweet time releasing it.

The original TL guy who was working on the official patch flipped his shit and went on a war path trying to get all traces of the unverified patch deleted.

/a/ found out, made a thread and apparently started joining BL en masse to get the patch. I guess /a/ started shitposting because BL mods decided to just mass ban new users for the day.

Meanwhile other users in BL are NOT helping by posting links to the /a/ thread where they're making mirrors to the patch after the TL guy got the leaker to delete it. Thanks to them I got the patch, heh.

Then there's the screenshots of the incorrect translations.

>>12234069
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/55-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-The-validation-and-TL-patch-will-be-finished-when-it-s-finished-Stop-asking/page344
Were you expecting something else?

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:20:05 2014 No.12234122
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>>12234092
Also, it's fucking hilarious how this jack guy considers an early release of unverified translations "WASTED!!" work when he could just, you know, promise to release a fully polished, verified release?

He just wanted all the credit and glory for himself, I suppose..

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:21:55 2014 No.12234128 >>12234122 no outside forum drama pls

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:57:33 2014 No.12234247

>>12234122
I think I can sympathize. If I were working a really long time on a project and an unsatisfactory version were leaked, it would be very disheartening to see people rushing to grab and read through it, probably with little intention of experiencing the polished version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:58:31 2014 No.12234252 >>12232548 we traduce watch we want. you doesn't need to play it. you be pirate, you doesn't pay for games so fuck you. go learn japenses if you wants lewd scenes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:00:48 2014 No.12234260 >>12234252 Sasuga Fuwanovel.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:06:46 2014 No.12234273

>>12234247
I would sympathize with them if they at least put out some progress reports. I don't know what they were thinking by going with their "It's done when it's done" joke for years and not expecting SOMETHING to happen. Reading the latest thread from them, it seems they're finally on the right track with their latest 80% patch out but I know they're doing it for the epeen. So I don't have much faith in them even finishing it within the year like they say as long as nobody tries to step all over their toes with other releases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:09:02 2014 No.12234284 >>12234252 Why not Malaysian for maximum authenticity?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:10:03 2014 No.12234290 >>12234273 Where is VNTS getting their numbers for the project progress?

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:15:51 2014 No.12234305

>>12234273

You have to have a goal and estimate at least for when you can get the project done IMO, and to put out consistent progress at least so you have something to work towards but just saying that it's done when it's done just indicates the lack of motivation to even finish.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:33:30 2014 No.12234350

>>12234290
>Our system thinks your post is spam
Shows how much I link things, I guess.

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5046-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Translation-Patches

This is the thread with the most recent activity. I don't think they're updating anywhere else.

>>12234305
Agreed. It seems to me that the team leaned on one guy to keep the project going and stopped giving a shit after he disappeared. They didn't want to admit nobody cared because they wanted to keep claim on the project or at least keep the circlejerking that came with it going.

I'm glad that everyone's bucking up to finish the project or at least putting on the appearance of doing so but I can't feel sorry for them after a three year delay with no news and the fact that only released a withheld patch because somebody else did it before them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:43:32 2014 No.12234361 File: 219 KB, 1600x1057, berneydidnotread_1[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12234379 >>12234351 >>12234360 >>71829458

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:44:51 2014 No.12234363

>>12233481
Yep, it totally makes sense when a couple is too shy to even kiss (sometimes even being unable to hold hands), then the girl suddenly sucks off the guy before their first actual intercourse, then they have good sex with the guy being a pro at pleasing the girl despite both beings virgins, then they immediately go for a second round in a slightly more exotic position (if the first wasn't already an unusual position). Then they go back to being entirely awkward around another and not kissing, and the second time they have sex they'll immediately go for the more hardcore stuff like anal, uncommon positions, sex in unusual circumstances, or even stuff like pee drinking. And, as any real couple, they're then satisfied with that and do not have sex on a regular basis from that point onwards, that would be silly.

And I'm not even touching on the porny, repetitive and entirely unrealistic way the scenes themselves are written. Actual sex is nothing like porn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:46:07 2014 No.12234365 >>12234363 Actual reality is nothing like fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 20:36:25 2014 No.12234423 >>12234363 "Stop having sex the way I don't like" Here, use this line next time you feel like complaining about things which aren't your business.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 22:15:35 2014 No.12234546 >>12234423 "Stop not giving my porn the attention it deserves" >use this line next time you feel like complaining about things which aren't your business.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 22:16:00 2014 No.12234547 >>12234546 >stop not Nope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 22:53:41 2014 No.12234617 File: 47 KB, 782x343, okok.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12234122 This guy is truly a faker of patches.

Anonymous Mon Jun 30 23:21:49 2014 No.12234661

>>12234546
It doesn't work this way because I don't have issues with all-ages VNs. You however, do have issues with adult VNs.
It wouldn't be a big deal per se because nobody gives a fuck about harmless retard, but when such retard starts spreading cancer of censorship based on a reason "because I don't like it", he should be told to fuck off for the greater good, which is exactly what's going on here.
Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 01:38:19 2014 No.12234938 >>12232960 >You can do this separately, just like with everything else. People like You can fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 04:27:29 2014 No.12235203 File: 44 KB, 528x397, seriously.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12234252 I've been living a healthy life and do a proper diet so i won't end up like my dad. But it's all ruined because of your post, fuck you.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:11:27 2014 No.12235245

>>12234423
The argument for H-scenes was that it's a natural part of relationships and therefore it makes sense for it to be included the way it is. I refuted that argument by pointing out it never happens in a way that is natural or makes sense. Please provide a proper argument for your opinion rather than just telling me to stop disagreeing with you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:18:18 2014 No.12235264 >>12235245 I think his argument is that the H scenes don't need to fit your sense of "natural or making sense" for them to be natural and making sense in the first place. It's really none of our business to tell couples how they should do the sexing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:26:18 2014 No.12235273 >>12235203 >tfw my dad died of cancer when I was 23

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:26:40 2014 No.12235275

>>12235245
It's just your opinion and preferences for porn.
Some people might have them differently you know? Who exactly gave you (Who had no connection with autor and original content ) the right to decide for others what feels natural for them and whats not?
Also, you have been told many times that you can just translate all-ages version, or manga or LN or book or whatever else. And thus avoiding cutting anything at all. Its about time to stop dude. As you can see your opinion on the matter is not shared here.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:38:13 2014 No.12235288

>>12235245
No, the argument for H scenes is that they're cutting content like a cunt and should stop it. No different than the people that crop movies for full screen or cut scenes for time and content to appease advertisers. It's just providing an incomplete experience, and you get applause for that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:44:48 2014 No.12235294

>>12235288
>>12235275
I am not a translator and as such have never been in a position where I could cut any content.

This was about the fact that H-scenes are only added to VNs in the first place because fans would boycott them otherwise and companies have no choice.

>>12235264
Could we say the same thing about drama? Drama coming out of nowhere for no real reason, it's not bad just because you dislike it? Mysteries with asspull solutions - it was never foreshadowed but that doesn't make them bad?

I don't know, if I suddenly see a couple acting like professional porn actors and then see them going entirely back to being a shy couple, I can't help but feel 'character development' was not the reason for the inclusion of that scene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:48:16 2014 No.12235302 >>12235294 If it's bad, you can dislike it. However, disliking it and proposing to cut it are different things altogether.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:50:11 2014 No.12235303

>>12235294
Anyway,
>This was about the fact that H-scenes are only added to VNs in the first place because fans would boycott them otherwise and companies have no choice.
Dude, companies make fucking all-ages versions.

It's funny because it's those all-ages versions that are forced to be cut because the companies have no choice.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 05:51:23 2014 No.12235305

>>12235294
>This was about the fact that H-scenes are only added to VNs in the first place because fans would boycott them otherwise and companies have no choice.
They wouldn't be "boycotted"... the game just wouldn't sell, is all. Believe it or not, people like having porn in their porn games.

>Could we say the same thing about drama? Drama coming out of nowhere for no real reason, it's not bad just because you dislike it? Mysteries with asspull solutions - it was never foreshadowed but that doesn't make them bad?
Good point. Let's just cut all the drama out of translations, too. It's bad, so you're better off without it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 06:22:24 2014 No.12235333 >>12235294 By your own logic, the companies put in the H because they know it's what the fans want, and then you act surprised that the fans get pissed when the H gets cut.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 06:34:12 2014 No.12235342 Mangagamer tweeted: >You know what's always hot? Good looking men in stylish #uniforms. Always wholesome fun for everyone in the family. Ozmafia?

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 07:19:32 2014 No.12235401

>>12235333
>>12235305
>>12235302
What part of 'this is not about cutting' do you guys not get? Are you so emotionally invested in 'oh no don't cut anything' that you are incapable of having a discussion on erotic content in VNs in general?

This is not about content being cut from a completed work. This is about why it should or shouldn't be created in the first place.

>>12235303
>Dude, companies make fucking all-ages versions.
No, they don't. They wish they could. Seriously, look at all-ages versions. There are two types:

1) The developer is big enough to take the risk. (Rare, and when done the all-ages version is almost always the original.)

2) The developer pairs up with a big publisher that can take risks. By far the most common situation. Developers rarely ever self-publish all-ages versions.

>>12235305
>Believe it or not, people like having porn in their porn games.
You are entirely correct. But does it add anything to the actual VN (plot, character building, whatever) or is it just random porn out of nowhere that has nothing to do with the story? And do the developers include it because they feel it fits in the story, or do they only include it because they can't take the financial risk of not degrading their story with unfitting porn scenes?

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 07:24:57 2014 No.12235404

>>12235401
The companies here can mean either the developers and/or the publisher.

All ages versions exist.

If you don't want to play the games without those "degrading porn scenes", play the all-ages versions. Problem solved.

I'd rather have something than not have it, even if it's bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 07:25:59 2014 No.12235407 >>12235404 >If you want* to play the games without those "degrading porn scenes"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 07:31:04 2014 No.12235413 >>12235401 What's you're basis for claiming they don't want to do H-scenes and are "forced" to do it?

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 08:13:03 2014 No.12235458

>>12235401
Is there a point to having that conversation?

Devs outsource all ages versions because they're usually console ports, and it's cheaper. Most of the time they can barely put a PC version together anyway. Mainstream games do this a lot as well.

I also don't know how you're distinguishing between devs that want ero in their games and just don't do it in the way you want and ones that don't want it but "have" to put it in there. I thought the sex scenes in Neuromancer were out of place and served little purpose, do you think they were in there just because Gibson thought no one would buy it otherwise?

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 10:07:01 2014 No.12235684

The only shit thats being translated that matters

12Riven- 40/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited

Cannonball - 36243/36902 (98.21%) lines translated

SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 47664/53520 (89.0%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited (when the fuck will this come out already)

Kara no Shoujo 2 - 10.4% translated, 4.3% edited

Killer Queen: all scripts translated and 43/72 scripts edited, plans also include translating Secret Game and Rebellion
(no fucking ero, are you serious?) whatever somone will make a pacth and ill still read it.

Comyu - 49434/51433 (96.11%) lines translated, Second partial patch out

Kichikuou Rance - 81.9% translated and edited

Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: roughly 53% (588 KB of 1.12 MB)" (Why did they stop this... it actually looks really good)

Rance Quest - 9.79% messages and 49.57% strings translated (this is great and all but who the fuck is translating rance 6? thats the best one)

Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing

Django - Couple more months of translation

Space Pirate Sara - Fully translated, 73% edited (for the futa scenes)

Cartagra - editing complete, in scripting

Kurukuru Fanatic - 53.7% translated (dont forget anout this one, i hope hes still working on it..)

There thats everything thats sort of being translated that matters. Why the fuck is thios scene so daed and so, what the fuck happened and who will save us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 10:13:42 2014 No.12235701 >>12235684 How about Hatsuyuki Sakura? Is the translation bad or something because the VN seems to have good ratings

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 10:16:47 2014 No.12235708 >>12235701 Seriously, ignore them. It's just their personal opinions. The only projects that matter are the ones that you personally like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 11:10:05 2014 No.12235810 >>12235684 >Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: roughly 53% (588 KB of 1.12 MB)" (Why did they stop this... it actually looks really good) It actually is a pretty good game, but the guy translating it got a job translating nukige for manga gamer.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:29:55 2014 No.12235944

>>12235810
God fucking dam it, this is what is happening. All the fan translators are being captured to translate shit for manga gamer and sit on their ass doing nothing. Aoiro Rinne was yet another good vn we will never fucking see. did he even say if he will ever finish it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:50:32 2014 No.12235971 >>12234037 FHA is transtaled, but it isn't editited. Getting voices from PSV is very possible. Just look at FSN and PS2 realta nua patch. Or even the Umineko got the voices from PS3. Glorious nippon voices

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:53:38 2014 No.12235977 >>12235701 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26oQ3LwbKVQ I would play it for pya~ anyways

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:53:41 2014 No.12235978 >>12235971 Hacking a PSV is very different from a PS2 or PS3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:54:48 2014 No.12235981 >>12235978 this is not about hacking PSV, but about extracting voice files from the PSV game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 13:40:20 2014 No.12236050 >>12235981 I hope it'll happen. We'll have a better version than the Japanese.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 13:41:38 2014 No.12236054

>>12235981
It's impossible to extract content from 3DS carts because they are encrypted and decryption is done by hardware. It's possible to dump RAM and get some stuff from there, but 3DS must be hacked for it to work. 3DS might not be Vita, but security seems to be better implemented on Vita: last I checked, it isn't fully hacked (PSP mode doesn't count) nor Vita carts can be dumped. Both tasks have to be accomplished for voices to be extracted.
If anything, voices could possibly be recorded by a capture card/TV tuner using Vita's headphones output, but this is fundamentally different from extraction.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 13:44:16 2014 No.12236062 >>12236054 Let's hope for a PS3/X360 release in that case.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 13:51:57 2014 No.12236074

>>12235401
You have no idea what you're talking about. Most eroge writers are otaku themselves, and include ero content because they like it. God knows you don't write eroge for the money. Sure, occasionally you'll get a Nasu or a Maeda who would really rather not include porn and only do it for the sales, but for the most part those people are writing LNs, not eroge.

Look at Subahibi for example. Most of the h-scenes are horrible and out of place, and even the ones that aren't are hardly what I'd call erotic, but is that because Scaji doesn't like it? Fuck no! Scaji loves pornography and takes every opportunity to add terrible futa porn to whatever he's working on if he can manage to justify it. Just recently on Twitter he was lamenting about not being able to fit homo porn into Sakura no Uta's story.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 13:53:12 2014 No.12236076 >>12236074 >about not being able to fit homo porn into Sakura no Uta's story. Doesn't it have a totally fuckable bro? It shouldn't be too hard to fit it, even as a bad end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 14:30:54 2014 No.12236142 >>12236076 You'd think, but who knows what Scaji has planned for the story. He says it's really different from the old trial.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 14:33:03 2014 No.12236145

>>12235684
>http://vndb.org/r?q=;fil=lang-en.plat-win.olang-ja.released-0;s=title;o=a;p=1
The above list is a list of all the translations in progress for Windows games. It's a bit more comprehensive than this thread I care about something like 53 of them. But I know that most of those projects are either dead, dying, JAST, or proceeding very slowly.

No one can save us. This is a very niche hobby we have, and no one cares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 14:40:46 2014 No.12236165 Does Clock Up have any ties to parade, the developers of No, Thank You?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 14:45:14 2014 No.12236175 >>12236165 parade is Clockup.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 14:58:20 2014 No.12236208 >>12236074 Didn't Nasu like writing his H-scenes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 15:02:44 2014 No.12236220 File: 595 KB, 1000x563, key x naoya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12236076 Yes, Kei is really cute. I'm really disappointed in him for not making it happen. At least he's still going to be cross dressing from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 15:03:45 2014 No.12236225 >>12236208 IIRC there was an old interview where he said he didn't want h-scenes in Tsukihime but Takeuchi convinced him to add them to improve sales.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 16:17:01 2014 No.12236361 >>12235401 Alright, well let's take game we know is being edited...Starless. Are you going to claim that Sei Shoujo doesn't love his work?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 17:55:57 2014 No.12236536 >http://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/29kjp9/solstice_fantasy_mystery_by_the_makers_of_cinders/cim2lmj Sekai Project is skipping steps! Pitchforks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:27:44 2014 No.12236574 I'm actually a bit excited for AX announcements.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:31:57 2014 No.12236581 >>12236574 Knowing MG, It's probably nukiges nobody gives half a fuck about (well, that and OZMAFIA).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:38:36 2014 No.12236590 File: 34 KB, 562x156, Screen Shot 2014-07-01 at 3.35.10 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12236581 Sounds like it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:45:51 2014 No.12236598 >>12236590 >just 78 instances Not a nukige confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:48:10 2014 No.12236602 >>12236598 Really short nukige then maybe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:55:48 2014 No.12236621 >>12236598 Maybe it's a BL game and these are all instances of "manboobs".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:59:15 2014 No.12236628 >>12236621 The only one they have is no thank you and the guy likes pecs and nipples a lot, so you can discard it too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 19:53:41 2014 No.12236669 >>12236590 Bosoms, melons milk factories, busts, funbags, knockers, balisties, boobies, jugs, nipples, jublies, stonking great tits-Zero Punctuation

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 20:04:09 2014 No.12236677 Is there anywhere I can see like the latest 10 complete translations? Its hard to keep track of what is new. Anything good come out the past 6 months or so? Also fuck JAST, Sumana has been "in editing" for years now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 20:09:09 2014 No.12236684 >>12236677 >Anything good come out the past 6 months or so? http://vndb.org/v10005

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 20:11:01 2014 No.12236687 >>12236677 http://vndb.org/r?q=;fil=lang-en.olang-ja.released-1.type-complete;o=d;s=released

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 21:47:50 2014 No.12236814 >>12235684 >(this is great and all but who the fuck is translating rance 6? thats the best one) The "Translation project" page at Alicesoft wikia says there's one at 3%, but I have no idea if it's accurate or when they last updated.

>>	None !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Tue Jul 1 21:48:12 2014 No.12236816 >>12236677 >Also fuck JAST, Sumana has been "in editing" for years now. Blame Disney.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 00:24:44 2014 No.12237073 >>12235684 >Rance Quest - 9.79% messages and 49.57% strings translated (this is great and all but who the fuck is translating rance 6? thats the best one) >>12236814 3% translated as of about a week ago Kamiera rape scene is the best in the series

>>	[NSFW] Wed Jul 2 00:38:21 2014 No.12237093 http://www.maybesoft.jp/change/ I can only dream...

>>	Lv1 Translator Wed Jul 2 01:54:40 2014 No.12237191 FUCK WORD WRAPPING.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 07:03:25 2014 No.12237620 >>12237191 FUCK WOR D WRAPPIN G

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 07:55:45 2014 No.12237653 File: 97 KB, 600x690, 1333470996273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] F/HA BGM music has to be the most relaxing music to wake up and fall asleep to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 12:56:29 2014 No.12238072 File: 154 KB, 800x600, lb-rin1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12237191 Indeed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 13:01:48 2014 No.12238086 >>12234252 your comment is so full of win

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 13:03:13 2014 No.12238092 >>12237653 The title and the first BGMs that plays are really good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 13:08:21 2014 No.12238106 >>12237093 I hate censorship with all my hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 18:01:23 2014 No.12238672 Are MG and JAST announcing stuff this thursday or friday?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 18:07:50 2014 No.12238683 >>12238672 All three major players, Sekai, MG and Jast are on Thursday. Sekai is 5pm PST, MG is 8:30pm and Jast starts at 8:45pm.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 18:10:56 2014 No.12238689 >>12238683 Thanks. Damn, I thought it was am. That's friday for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 18:34:16 2014 No.12238735 >>12238683 >Sekai >major player Dovac, pls.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 18:59:05 2014 No.12238776 >>12238735 Thank god that sekai is a terrible idea. I can't wait to see dovac in despair when his precious company crashes and burns horribly.

Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:07:59 2014 No.12238796

>>12238776
Well, terrible or not, its definitely too early to call them "major player". They have no own funds, no own staff and managed to license only doujin games noone really cares about in Japan. They also didn't even release anything they made entirely themself and on commercial basis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:29:10 2014 No.12238831 Their market strategy of milking through every means possible seems to be wearing thin on a lot of the fans as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:09:44 2014 No.12238885 Just to make sure, is this the same Sekai as the fanTL group that started the School Days project years ago?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:17:55 2014 No.12238899 >>12238885 No, it's dovac's (guy who used to run yande.re) company.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:46:51 2014 No.12238938 File: 165 KB, 654x362, 1404347914912.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:50:48 2014 No.12238945 >>12238938 NTY was a given and I guess they are really going to do some LS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:58:32 2014 No.12238952 >>12238945 LS was just as a given as NTY.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 21:21:31 2014 No.12238986 File: 87 KB, 370x494, Screen Shot 2014-07-02 at 6.20.40 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12238938

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 21:29:24 2014 No.12239003 >>12238986 So Sona-Nyl, Ozmafia and NTY.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 21:40:51 2014 No.12239025 Any indication of MoeNovel becoming relevant in the foreseeable future? I'd honestly be glad if they were to clean up their act similar to how MG has been.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 21:54:18 2014 No.12239044 >>12239025 Hopefully, if their second title does well, they'll expand their line. I haven't seem any clear indications, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 22:08:48 2014 No.12239064 >>12238986 So, are they going to give LS writing style the justice Ixrec apparently failed to?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 22:09:57 2014 No.12239065 >>12239064 Probably not, but Koestl's still a lot better than Ixrec.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 22:10:33 2014 No.12239066 >>12239064 Its assigned to Koestl, so if he can't, noone in current vn tl scene can.

Lv1 Translator Wed Jul 2 22:56:17 2014 No.12239117

>>12237620
Exactly. Thank god for python so I could sprinkle \n tags throughout my script at appropriate intervals.

I never thought that python class I took in uni would be that useful, but it's turned out to be the second most useful class I ever took, right after my japanese classes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 02:23:24 2014 No.12239383 >>12239117 If that's your biggest pain, consider yourself lucky. There are worst things that can happen.

>>	Lv1 Translator Thu Jul 3 03:12:36 2014 No.12239433 >>12239383 True, which is why I basically just stick with Kirikiri games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:00:30 2014 No.12239629 >>12232892 Why are you linking some plebs' lists? http://vndb.org/u12472/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:10:41 2014 No.12239644 >>12239629 Who the fuck's this nigga?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:21:06 2014 No.12239652 >>12239644 Probably himself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:29:10 2014 No.12239667 >>12239644 > not knowing hadler WTF are you doing in VN-related thread, pleb?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:31:57 2014 No.12239670 https://twitter.com/vavasyatyou/status/484598809230462976 Japs mercilessly disclose stuff before localizators have chance to announce it. Kinda surprising dovac managed to reach deal with vava tho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:35:44 2014 No.12239677 >>12239667 Seriously, who the fuck is that nigger?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:37:32 2014 No.12239678 >>12239677 The guy who even moogy-heika mitomerares as yuushuuna sonzai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 07:17:22 2014 No.12239698 >>12239667 Is he a writer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:13:08 2014 No.12239788 Who is the best current translator from the Yosuga no Sora project? xtryui, shion, or bekyuubi?

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:20:43 2014 No.12239796

>>12233056
The people making the patch get to decide what they want to do with the patch. That's the fact of the matter and it's ridiculous that anyone would try to argue otherwise. Like he said though, the author may not have wanted it - and if so, it's entirely possible they would have made it clear that they didn't, for example in an interview or something. Which makes for a very good reason to cut it out. Aside from it not belonging to begin with, of course.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:25:49 2014 No.12239801

>>12239796
Yeah, the people making the patch can do whatever they want. They can remove all the sprites in the game and replace the backgrounds with pictures of ducks if they want. They don't have the right to decide what the developers wanted in their games though.

>Aside from it not belonging to begin with
The cancer killing eroge!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:28:22 2014 No.12239807 >>12239801 The medium could be so much more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:50:17 2014 No.12239834 Translators are the heroes who liberates oppressed devs from their ill will ! Why can't you guys understand? Even people at fuwanovel got it, why can't you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:02:01 2014 No.12239848 >>12239677 It's a guy who has actually read shit, much more than the three quoted previously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:06:18 2014 No.12239856 >>12239848 http://vndb.org/u1177/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote >2892 votes total Then this guy must be an eroge god.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:12:28 2014 No.12239875 >>12239856 In a way, yeah. Few people are really interested in reading such an amount of moege/nukige, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:23:30 2014 No.12239890 >>12239875 Then how about the guy with the second most votes on the site? Is his taste real deal enough for you? http://vndb.org/u48827/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:29:46 2014 No.12239898 >>12239856 >>12239890 Unlike Hadler, these two are bots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:31:09 2014 No.12239903 >>12239898 How do you know Hadler isn't a bot?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:32:26 2014 No.12239905 >>12239903 He writes reviews and impressions on things he read.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:39:22 2014 No.12239923 >>12239905 So does Ixrec, that doesn't mean they're not both bots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:40:07 2014 No.12239925 >>12239903 http://ask.fm/HadlerER http://vndb.org/t5054#16 etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:41:08 2014 No.12239928 >>12239923 I don't trust someone who can't even understand the first chapter of Asairo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:41:18 2014 No.12239929 >>12239925 >Ryukishi07 (Higurashi, Umineko, Higanbana, Rose Guns Days, Rewrite) - Excellent writing, great plotting ability, and well-developed and unique characters. Really don't have much to complain about him. All opinions invalidated

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:42:17 2014 No.12239931 >>12239929 Hadler didn't post that. Look again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:42:21 2014 No.12239932 >>12239928 You don't have to, I was suggesting they're both bots. I wouldn't trust a bot either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:43:29 2014 No.12239933 >>12239932 If there is bot which can read japanese, and then flawlessly express opinion on it in english, I'd trust it much more than any human being.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:43:41 2014 No.12239934 >>12239931 You're right, my browser just put me on that post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:44:44 2014 No.12239937 >>12239933 Ixrec can do that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:47:55 2014 No.12239940 >>12239937 And he isn't a bot. No one actually said that. He just makes some stupid claims about games sometimes, but this falls more down to the taste side.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:48:53 2014 No.12239941 >>12239940 But if he was a bot, you'd trust him more than any human.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:50:26 2014 No.12239943

>>12239801
Are you ever going to make a good argument, or are you just going to keep posting stupid shit like this? I doubt you can name a single patch that actually did something like that.

Like I said, and like you somehow overlooked despite it being a key point because you were saying some dumb shit about ducks, the developers may have stated they were forced to put in the sex scenes and would have left them out if they were able to. For example, those interviews with Romeo Tanaka. Are you seriously trying to claim that after all that, there's still something wrong with actually removing those scenes? Do you really place that much value on something so pointless just because you can masturbate to it? That's quite possibly one of the most immature sentiments I've seen expressed in a long time.

But go ahead, make another empty post dripping with sarcasm. It's all that people like you seem to be able to do when you're faced with logic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:52:39 2014 No.12239945 >>12239856 That person has played 2892 visual novels. He also played Muv-Luv and rated it an 8. But he didn't play MLA. How is that even possible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 09:58:55 2014 No.12239950 >>12239943 > I doubt you can name a single patch that actually did something like that. Apparently you are too new here to post. Go educate yourself about the Dolphins patch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 10:07:13 2014 No.12239958 >>12239943 >those interviews with Romeo Tanaka You got a link for that, or no?

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 10:08:29 2014 No.12239959

>>12239950
Having been here since 2008 and hanging out in several VN translation channels (which were how I found /jp/ in the first place), I have no idea what you mean by the 'Dolphins patch'.

That said, there have been some rare cases of translators deciding to 'improve' the game by altering it, most notably No Name Losers cutting out a lot of fluff from the games they were translating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 10:10:15 2014 No.12239963 >>12239959 >Having been here since 2008 >I have no idea what you mean by the 'Dolphins patch'. It was huge shitstorm for quite a while and known to everyone who actually cares about VN translations, so you are apparently lying.

Lv1 Translator Thu Jul 3 10:54:01 2014 No.12240030

>>12239807
It's not a translator's job to advance the medium by altering the original work, beyond the translation itself. Censorship is stepping over the lines of what a translator is supposed to do.

If you want to advance the medium so badly, make your own VN.

>>12239943
>the developers may have stated they were forced to put in the sex scenes and would have left them out if they were able to.

Then they should release a director's cut edition. And translators should translate that. But until then, the translator must work with what he has, not what he wishes he had.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 10:57:39 2014 No.12240038 >>12240030 > It's not a translator's job Fantranslation is not "job", its hobby, and not bound by any constrains.

>>	Lv1 Translator Thu Jul 3 11:01:12 2014 No.12240043 >>12240038 You can't call yourself a translator if you're altering the original work beyond translating. At that point, you're re-writing, no matter how much you claim the developers would have wanted it that way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 11:05:12 2014 No.12240050 >>12240043 I agree. Or even worse, a 'localizer'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 11:50:47 2014 No.12240117 >>12239670 At this rate there might not be any new surprises when following the live transcripts. Are we sure it's Sekai getting it? If any company were to manage to get into Visual Art's pants, I was rooting for MG.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 11:52:58 2014 No.12240124 >>12240117 MG got 3 licenses and we know all 3 of them — NTY, LiarSoft title and Ozmafia. It could be JAST, but planetarian is too small-scale for them and dovac is known to pursue all-ages VNs specifically, so I'd bet on him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 11:55:40 2014 No.12240128 >>12238899 vndb has them listed as the same.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 13:23:26 2014 No.12240265 >>12239670 Remember, Planetarian has already been officially localized. All dovac had to do was convince them to let him port the translation to the PC version and toss it on Steam. It's basically no risk on VA's part.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 15:07:44 2014 No.12240416 Why would VA work with a known scammer?

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 15:29:59 2014 No.12240465
File: 82 KB, 640x480, that post was so edgy, i became a sword.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

While I download Hollow Ataraxia, someone recommend some good VNs to a Nasuversefag? The only things I didn't like in Fate or Tsukihime were the sex scenes and the shit waifus in Fate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 17:31:29 2014 No.12240686 >>12239959 In the first patch for Hoshizora no Memoria, the translator decided he hated lolis,so replaced all of her scenes with pictures of dolphins.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 17:38:03 2014 No.12240700 >>12240686 And to disable it you had to delete one folder. It was too hard for anons to do, so they kept bitching about dolphins

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 17:40:32 2014 No.12240705 >>12240700 In the final version, yeah, but in earlier versions of the patch you had to fuck around with folder permissions to keep the dolphins from coming back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 20:27:55 2014 No.12240971 >>12239670 This time they didn't even need the japs to do it. http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/03/grisaia-kajitsu-published-english-sekai-project/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 20:56:47 2014 No.12241046 >Grisaia >Visual Art's/planetarian And they just had to come from Sekai of all things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:27:54 2014 No.12241083 >>12240971 > One student is described as one “that should never have been born”. Another “bears the sin of rebelling”. A third is “alive but dead” Oh god, why siliconera is so bad, reading this stuff is literally painful.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:41:08 2014 No.12241098

20:41:30 <bay|AX|SekaiProject> but we have recently signed a deal with these guys to do the first game
20:41:36 <bay|AX|SekaiProject> there is a team of translators working on it
20:47:47 <bay|AX|SekaiProject> Q: Which Grisaia?
20:47:57 <bay|AX|SekaiProject> A: First of the three, should be based on the ps3 version, but still working on details

So these retards actually retranslate stuff from scratch and believe they could beat what Koestl did? And moreover, making it all-ages? I don't understand what's going on in dovac's head, does he believe that anime will make people blindly buy his inferior version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:54:29 2014 No.12241116 >>12241098 I think that you are the retard here dude.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:57:57 2014 No.12241125

>>12241098
>based on the ps3 version
Based on what? What does Vita version have that PC version doesn't?
As for making? it all-ages, wider exposure might offset the lack of H-scenes. It's not like they can't be patched back to provide the full experience anyway.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:03:25 2014 No.12241130

>>12241098
No, apparently Koestl's original translation is being polished and reused. Though I don't know if it's confirmed yet that he will also be providing translations for the others in the series. I assume that he will be probably be their TL after he finishes his project for MG.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:20:45 2014 No.12241152 >>12241130 He's said so himself on twitter and in the /vg/ thread, so it's pretty much confirmed.

>>	Good Haro Thu Jul 3 22:27:01 2014 No.12241161 One hour to go...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:27:49 2014 No.12241164 >>12241161 Are you going to present that title you are working on yourself?

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:36:34 2014 No.12241174

>>12232492
>These scenes add nothing to, and often detract from, an otherwise good plot. There is absolutely nothing lost from removing them unless the game itself revolves around ero, in which case they will obviously not be removed.
Properly done they can add immersion and make you feel wonderful things in many ways. Yes, there are games where the scenes don't really fit in and are forced, but their number is not as big as you are implying, at least among those that ever are likely to be translated. The majority of hate towards ero seems to come from nothing more than western cultural hate towards anything sexual. Most people complaining about it don't seem to be able to handle and enjoy sexual content in not exclusively pornographic context, but instead get confused and conflicted by it. It's kinda sad, actually...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:41:29 2014 No.12241177 I just love how everyone was bitching about fuwanovel removing ero, but once herki&co do it, its perfectly acceptable and ero suddenly doesn't matter anymore.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:47:55 2014 No.12241186

>>12241177
Ignoring the stretched facts, there's one big difference: Grisaia is getting official release with cuts having legitimate reasons. There's no reasons behind Lamune being censored except the retardation of the translator.
By the way, there's already an uncensor on VNDB forums.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:48:15 2014 No.12241187 >>12241161 They're not doing a live blog this year anyways right? Unless im missing something. So whats the point in counting down if your waiting for someone to update their twitter sometime afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:49:19 2014 No.12241189 >>12241187 http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php?panel=0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:51:41 2014 No.12241191 >>12241189 Oh neat I thought they said they weren't able to cover both panels at once.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:10:18 2014 No.12241209 >>12241177 But I get to pay money for it this time! Maybe if we're lucky they'll release the first one and then put the other two on kickstarter. That way I can give them as much of my money as possible.

>>	Good Haro Thu Jul 3 23:11:40 2014 No.12241213 >>12241164 That's the plan if this Urobuchi panel ever lets out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:28:38 2014 No.12241250 >>12241209 Eat shit, it's free. Fuwanovel pls go, /jp/ can't handle this much retardation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:31:21 2014 No.12241256 >>12241174 I'd love to see ero-hating guy argue that removing Amane's scenes in Grisaia doesn't diminish the route.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:42:02 2014 No.12241271 >>12241189 Am i getting blind or am I not seeing MangaGamer 2014 panel on the list?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:44:25 2014 No.12241274 >>12241271 It didn't start yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:46:40 2014 No.12241279 >>12241271 >>12241270

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 23:46:55 2014 No.12241280 >>12241271 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecons-industry2 live stream

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:08:04 2014 No.12241327 >>12239950 Didn't Insem do something silly with the Dracu-Riot patch too? >>12239959 >>12240700 http://erogegames.com/eroge-visual-novels/eroge-tech-support/475-hoshizora-no-memoria-problems/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:19:15 2014 No.12241353 Got my hopes up for Euphoria for just a moment there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:25:28 2014 No.12241372 >All the people at these panels and asking questions are fat asses and skinny and the girls are ugly Is this normal at cons?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:27:18 2014 No.12241378 So JAST got literally nothing this year. Pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:33:37 2014 No.12241393 >>12241372 What, are you looking for a significant other at a porn game panel or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:34:42 2014 No.12241397 >>12241393 No, I was actually expecting normalfags mostly at these panels since they're the ones that are the most interested in VN.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:35:58 2014 No.12241398 >>12241397 Since when? That's new to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:40:34 2014 No.12241405 >>12230382 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/animecons-industry2 MG PANEL

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:41:00 2014 No.12241406 >>12241378 Well, they are going DRM-free and made a stealth release of http://vndb.org/v1953

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:44:39 2014 No.12241414 >>12241406 > made a stealth release of http://vndb.org/v1953 That thing is worse than MorningStar 5$ games, I don't think its worth counting, esp. compared to Sakurai and GnK announcements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:47:19 2014 No.12241424 >>12241414 Both things are unheard of, so at least we got surprises. Transcript of JAST panel: http://bayoab.info/live/old.php?panel=303

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:55:14 2014 No.12241445 In other news, JAST continues to sit on the same projects for half a decade.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:57:31 2014 No.12241453 >>12241424 >21:20:20 <bay\|AX\|JAST> that's what we're looking at in the near term >21:20:21 <bay\|AX\|JAST> and there are other things >21:20:28 <bay\|AX\|JAST> where we don't have a time frame that we're sure of >21:20:30 <bay\|AX\|JAST> starless Goddammit.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:16:21 2014 No.12241479

>>12241256
Yeah, sure, there's only one person that hates pointless ero. Fuck off.

I'm glad about this Grisaia news, and even gladder that it's the all ages version so it will get on Steam. This is the way for visual novels to actually take off in the west. It's hilarious that you think that about Amane's scenes though. Go ahead and explain, just what do they add to the route? The burden of proof is on you, here. But you haven't got shit, which is why you made such a worthless and condescending post acting like you're some sort of connoisseur of VN sex scenes.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:18:49 2014 No.12241482

>>12240030
>Then they should release a director's cut edition. And translators should translate that. But until then, the translator must work with what he has, not what he wishes he had.

Yeah, like the all ages versions, which people like to pretend don't exist even though they're generally the definitive edition of the VNs.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:23:37 2014 No.12241494

>>12241482
You've got nothing to back that up. I could just as easily say that the developers were forced to cut the ero content to cater to the wider audience that consoles bring. They were forced to include the additional scenes because no one would buy it otherwise.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:27:09 2014 No.12241497

>Mangagamer
Gakthun, shit for the rotten ones over on /vg/
>JAST
Mangogamer tier nukige, nothing else...
>Sekai Project
Shit so old, it's what Jesus played before he was crucified. Now with less ero

Well this AX was shit. Not worth the hype. Let's hope Otakon is better

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:29:30 2014 No.12241500 >>12241497 Otakon is mostly porn. Well, Sekai apparently got some more titles to announce, but chance is they will not make it in time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:32:35 2014 No.12241503 Feels like Higurashi has been retranslated 3-4 times now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:33:45 2014 No.12241504 >>12241503 It'll be good one of these times right?

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:52:11 2014 No.12241531

>>12241479
Despite you being irrationally angry, I'll answer in earnest. Let's assume that an integral part of Amane's character is her being outwardly promiscuous(to say the least). Of course this is played for laughs in the common route, and although even some of those scenes will likely be removed even though they aren't full on sex scenes. Later during her route the reader comes to understand that at least partially(one could argue wholly) Amane's relationship with Yuuji started out as an atonement for her past. Now when those scenes are removed(and really half of her route are those scenes, the other half being an overly long flashback) I would say that it almost nonsensical. Without those scenes, Amane's early efforts at atonement seem pretty slim, huh? Pretty much just kissing Yuuji(I assume they keep that in at least) along with some interactions with him besides that. Seemingly takes away that entire aspect of Amane's character and just turning her into a more of a flirt than the other characters. Lastly, fellatio selfie is just too funny to take out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:53:33 2014 No.12241533 >>12241479 All right, let's round this discussion up. His tastes > your tastes because I said so. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:16:24 2014 No.12241574 >>12239958 Still waiting on that link.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:22:43 2014 No.12241588 So no news on NTY?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:24:00 2014 No.12241591 >>12241588 Well, It's confirmed and confirmed as having finished being translated so it'll probably be out before the end of the year/early next year. What more do you want?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:25:00 2014 No.12241594 >>12241588 Did you even try reading thread?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:38:02 2014 No.12241621 >censored grisaia But the Mitcher h-scenes were the only enjoyable thing left when the main routes and the genetic tragic past dispenser started.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:50:43 2014 No.12241637 https://tindabox.net/irclog The saddest thing about this is that I don't think it's fuwanovel being fucking retarded about porn in porn games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:53:41 2014 No.12241640 Anyone have a mirror of Grisaia's 1.1 patch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:01:25 2014 No.12241650 >>12241637 Is the best thing I can do when working on a project is staying as far away from that channel as possible? It sounds really inane.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:12:53 2014 No.12241671 >>12241640 http://www.multiup.org/download/b96f93e0d9c7444944c40b5fa767694c/_TLWiki__Grisaia_no_Kajitsu_English_1.1.exe

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:19:42 2014 No.12241684 >>12241671 Much appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:22:49 2014 No.12241685 >>12241684 You're welcome. Now a on little different set of hosters. http://jheberg.net/mirrors/tlwiki-grisaia-no-kajitsu-english-11/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:35:35 2014 No.12241697 I want to believe Aksys will announce F/E CCC tomorrow. If there's any chance left for it, I think using the hype surrounding the new F/SN anime would be that chance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:53:25 2014 No.12241735 >>12241650 I lurked there for a little while when I first started my TL, but not anymore. Most of the active users aren't really the sort of people I enjoy associating with, to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 05:01:27 2014 No.12241895 Imouto Paradise has been confirmed for best title from MangaGamer this year. Didn't you hear all the cheer when its cover was shown on the panel?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 05:04:35 2014 No.12241903 >>12241895 At least now its obvious why MG prefers to license such games. Thats exactly what market demands.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 08:31:49 2014 No.12242304

>>12241621
While in general I think Grisaia is one of the worst VNs to remove 18+ content from, one redeeming factor is that Michiru's second H-scene will be removed. It was so ridiculously out of place that it harmed the scene directly preceding it. Michiru has spent three full days underground and can't even walk anymore...so let's have sex! And while we're at it, Michiru takes the initiative! H-scenes are miracles, they manage to make even dead tired Michiru all lively again!

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 08:57:05 2014 No.12242332

>>12241152
>and in the /vg/ thread
Moot seriously fucked up. There is no centralized "VN" board anymore.
So you have /jp/, which is technically the VN board. But then you have all the news being posted in one thread of /vg/.

/vg/ should just go and die so that all the boards affected by it can go back to normal.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 10:13:09 2014 No.12242437

>>12241482
If there's an all ages version, and the translator translates it, then fine.

If there's NOT an all ages version, and the translator tries to MAKE one by deleting H-scenes, he's no longer translating. He's making a fan edit.

It's not complicated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 10:32:48 2014 No.12242472 >>12241531 >Let's assume And there's where you killed any point you thought you were making.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 12:03:52 2014 No.12242583 >>12242304 anon, you forgot that it's a work of fiction or what?

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 13:29:03 2014 No.12242744

>>12242583
Yes, and as a work of fiction it totally killed the atmosphere it had been building up the entire time. It's less of a crime against reasonableness (with proper asspulling you can handwave it) than it is a crime against the flow of the story.

>>	Tulip Goddess Maria !!4HfMgF+3PzX Fri Jul 4 13:59:48 2014 No.12242797 File: 142 KB, 800x600, CG1090.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Informing the masses: http://rancetranslation.wordpress.com/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 14:00:11 2014 No.12242799 <Rai> How many did Grisaia vita sell? <koestl> 32. not 32k just 32

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 19:06:23 2014 No.12243405 File: 88 KB, 640x640, 10518188_779680422062673_380473358_n[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The return. The Dismissed Eroge TL YukkuriS is back! (far left)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 19:28:44 2014 No.12243444 >>12243405 Dovac said he 'fired' YukkuriS in #tlwiki, but considering YukkuriS is a co-founder of Sekai I'm sure he's just not doing any new translations and they just said that to look good.

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