/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Visual Novel translation status


12Riven- 41.5/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
>Air (Project 1)- Released 2nd Beta patch and 90% through QC
>Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "554/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (28.2%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 5% translated, bonus 20% translated
>Cannonball - 100% translated, 19.04% edited
Clover Day - 404/648 KB of the common route + 37/722 KB of a route translated
Cocoro Function - 14735/53644 (27.47%) lines translated
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 100% translated, script 74.6% validated, Full patch with unvalidated text released
Fukai ni Nemuru Oujo no Abaddon - translation started
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - Being translated
Hatsuyuki Sakura - 19.4% (7525/38793) lines translated
>Kichikuou Rance - 100% translated, nearly 100% edited
>Killer Queen - all scripts translated and edited, plans also include translating Secret Game and Rebellion
>Koichoco - 100% translated, 228/397 files edited
Koiken Otome - 82.36% translated, 46.91% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 14426/36312 (39.71%) lines translated, Common + Umi route translated
Kud Wafter - 11789/33132 (35.58%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 53.7% translated
Lamune - Nanami route partial patch released
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated

[VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs No.]

Magical Marriage Lunatics - ~12% translated, ~8% edited
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Fully translated, in TLC
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Oreimo PSP - 291/299 scripts translated, 174/299 through TLC+Editing, 171/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - Youtube based project, Kirino part 26, Ayase part 23
Popotan - 4% translated
Princess Maker 5- 91.4% translated, 37.1% finalized
Prism Ark - Chapter 1-7 translated, progress stalled because of technical issues
Rance 5D - 35% translated
Rance 6 - 4% translated
>Rance Quest - 11.45% messages and 58.25% strings translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
>SakuSaku - Common route fully translated, 8815/49257 (18%) lines translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 47664/53520 (89.0%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
Sukisho! - First Limit - 72.66% translated
Supreme Candy - ~14273/43261 (~33.0%) lines translated
>Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 13802/19644 = 70.26% lines translated
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
>Witch's Garden - 7861/64363 (12.21%) lines translated
White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3024/35275 (8.57%) lines translated
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated and edited, 54% QC, partial patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 63.60%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 73.62%, Motoka 30.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

[VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs No.]

Official work

MangaGamer
Imouto Paradise - Augest 22nd release
Hitozuma Nurse - Beta complete
D2B vs Deardrops - Beta complete
Kyoudai Hiai - Beta complete
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - In scripting
Royal Guard Melissa - In beta
Princess Evangile - Fully translated and edited, in scripting
Cartagra - editing complete, in scripting
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 18.0% translated, 17.9% edited
Space Pirate Sara - In scripting
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
Bokuten - 33.5% translated, 10.1% edited
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Chapter 0 complete, Common route 10.8% translated, 20.3% translated overall
>Higurashi (retranslation) - 11.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
>Gahkthun - 30% translated, 10% edited
>No Thank You - Fully Translated, 56.8% edited
OZMAFIA - Picked up
Otakon Announcement - 29% translated
>Otakon Announcement 2 - fully translated, 2% edited
>Couple more additional announcements picked up for Otakon

JAST
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Seinarukana- Mostly translated
Starless - In translation
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Romanesque - In translation
Shiny Days - Translation finished
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapters 2 and 3 picked up
Fault -milestone one- - Picked up
Grisaia no Kajitsu - All ages PC release based on the Vita release planned
Planetarian - picked up

Other
Danganronpa 2 - September 2nd release
Tears to Tiara II - October 14th release
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

[Anonymous No.]

一桁！

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322172
>Otakon Announcement 2 - fully translated, 2% edited
>Couple more additional announcements picked up for Otakon

So what are they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322189
My dick in your ass faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322204
I don't see that on VNDB

[Anonymous No.]

Btw, is Princess Maker 5 translation dead? Tlwiki hasn't updated since February.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322212
if in doubt assume it's dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322209
Just turn around, you can't miss it, queer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322189
When is otakon anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322189


From MG's Twitter
>Working on announcements for Otakon tonight, and dang did we grab a couple doozies to add to our initial two!

>One is a doujin game, and only one could potentially be considered nukige, but we have more than two

>two announcements are horror games, but we have more than two.


Kouryuu answering a question

>What kind of reactions do you expect from the mysterious Otakon announcements?
>Shock and Awe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322218
MangaGamer panel will be next friday at midnight.
I'll be watching the stream at 5 AM on my country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322204

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322189

Hints so far
>"Two Horror games"
>Nukige
>Doujin

The Short Nukige is probably the project that DS55 just finished, and will likely be out before the end of the year.

Just about everyone knows one of them is Euphoria

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322235
So basically nothing worthy of our time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322235

Oh, and bamboo twit'd this last month, so who knows

http://twitter.com/bamboo_milktub/status/485339020830863360

>>12322225
>Shock and Awe.

does kouryuu actually think anyone is going to be shocked at them announcing euphoria? When doddler spent a few months all but shouting it from the rooftops?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322235
Considering how MangaGamer has already stated on their ask.fm that just one title can be potentially considered a nukige, I'm pretty sure that Euphoria is what fits the bill on that.

Regarding the doujin game, at first I thought it was another Nyaatrap game but given that there are two horror games I won't be surprised if the other is Higurashi Fan disc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322246
No, he said Euphoria

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322246

Euphoria is a bit of a thing, but no one cares because we all knew months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322251

That was the old line, the new line has changed

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322249

>does kouryuu actually think anyone is going to be shocked at them announcing euphoria? When doddler spent a few months all but shouting it from the rooftops?


We know Euphoria and the short doujin game, the question was asking about the other couple titles they just added to their Otakon lineup in addition to Euphoria and the doujin game

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322273

The rest of their lineup is shit

It'll be Euphoria, Higurashi fandisk, shit nukige that DS55 translated in two weeks, and a longer softhouse seal title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322282
It appears that these new additions are titles are titles just picked up the rights to sometime very recently (after AX), and they have hinted they are big deal titles. So it is doubtful they are from any company Mangagamer has been working closely with, as those rights issues would have been sorted out well before AX.

They had actually been playing up they were in big negotiations since Spring, and Kouryuu has always been saying "at least x new announcements", and noted that important paperwork went out sometime before AX

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322293
>So it is doubtful they are from any company Mangagamer has been working closely with

You seem to like to believe kouryuu's word, so go diggin around his ask.fm from a couple weeks before AX, he mentioned that Otakon wasn't going to be any new partners and was going to be stuff from their current parents while AX was their new partners.

The big announcement they just finished signing was Higurashi, since r07 is getting ready to sell it at comiket. Originally it was just going to be Euphoria and the softhouse shit.

Whether you choose to believe my words is your choice, but the road of hype leads only to disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322304
Assuming that MangaGamer hasn't been blatantly lying about their plans for announcements from May through last week, MangaGamer has consistently said they had 2 titles planned for Otakon. Then late this past week, MangaGamer came out and said "dang did we grab a couple doozies to add to our initial two". Kouryuu certainty exaggerates the quality of the games, so these titles certainty may not be noteworthy, but it seems like a stretch he (and others involved with MangaGamer) would blatantly lie about the number of announcements in a way that made Otakon look less impressive (4 titles is more impressive than 2), so it seems likely they only just now get these licenses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322172
>MG bringing over BL and Otome games
What do you guys think about what MG should do about their website in order to keep it appealing for all audiences? For the sake of argument let's not talk about using a separate website.

Some of my ideas are:
- Have a panel on the main page that has the option to enable or disable yaoi content (disabled by default) and even have a option to allow nukige titles on their banner (also disabled by default). In regards to this feature, to be honest, I'm not comfortable with it because it doesn't make some titles stand out. It may also make these audiences feel sort of alienated but then again, other methods don't come to my mind right now.

- Develop a more effective search system allowing the user to search by titles, categories, developers, top rated games and latest releases. By this I also mean the elimination of the section on the left on their site.

- Where the games button currently stands, use a function that when on mouse over provides options to search through the whole catalogue and story and nukige titles. When the user is on each of these sections allow the use of filters.

I'd like to share some ideas of what would be the best method for a company to sell all kinds of VNs. Heck, I may even make a website design on paint and post it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322235

Well, there was this too, maybe the almost nukige isn't Euphoria after all...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322451
What are you talking about? That description fits euphoria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322453
Fuck, I thought we were getting an uncensored release of gay butlers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322293
>they have hinted they are big deal titles
That doesn't mean they are big deals though. It's the company's job to create hype for their product, it would be foolish to take their word for it.

You guys should just be happy for euphoria, since it'll be the best official release in a long time (years? When was the last good licensed eroge even?).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322483
Hm, that also fits. Though euphoria is probably more likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>Cannonball - 100% translated,
We, who are about to fap, salute you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322453

Did you notice who tweeted it?

[Anonymous No.]

>Killer Queen - all scripts translated and edited
Well, it's almost time to dust off my rusty Nscripter editing skills.

Why did nobody tell those retards to use xdelta instead of butchering the VN under the excuse of preventing CP distribution.
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[Anonymous No.]

At this rate they're going to release Kara no Shoujo 2 before they release Cartagra...

How long has it been sitting in some kind of purgatory? 4-5 years now, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322225
It's going to be Hadaka Shitsuji.

[Anonymous No.]

The key thing about the new Mangagamer pickups is the panel is no longer a non event (if Mangagamer doesn't reveal them before hand with hints.) We knew exactly what AX was going to be before hand for Mangagamer, and we knew that Otakon was going to be Euphoria and some short doujin game. But at the moment we have no clue what these newly picked up licenses are.

[Anonymous No.]

Ded thread.
Ded board.
Ded scene.
Weekly reminder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12323418

He's quite the POS.

[Anonymous No.]

>For anon who's still reading translation

[Anonymous No.]

>>12323608
How's that texthook treatin' ya?

[Anonymous No.]

Violent title #3 is probably what ds55 did. He said it's not Amber Breaker, but I'd say it's probably a Morningstar title. I suppose it could be another Appetite title, but there's already a few of those in the works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324157

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off, corntastic

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322225
>>12324157

Actually, you know what would literally shock me to see Mangagamer announce?

Morningstar's got a series of cross-dressing shota fucking games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12323418
no idea who this insem guy is but he sounds like a huge faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324283
The time would be right. I think the market's there, more people are jerking it to little anime boys in dresses than ever.

[Anonymous No.]

http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/115369356017
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/496042075800862720

Why Moonstone, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324499
Is that honestly a big deal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324521
Yes. Hearing them say dirty words helps me get off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322212
I have faith in them. The project was on hold for quite some time before as well, but then they got it going again got the majority of the entire game done.
Hopefully it will start again sometime. And it will be the game of the year whenever it's completed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324754
No.
No it won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324523
If you understood them, you wouldn't need the translation, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12325028
You can't get uncensored hcgs in the original game.

[Anonymous No.]

>Cannonball - 100% translated, 19.04% edited]
I saw the Cannonball image, and read the 100% part and I thought Great! It's released.
You're a tease OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for Cannonball.

Is it confirmed that an installer for the game is going to be made too? It could use one; the system on the discs of the game is inordinately difficult to do correctly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12325351
I posted something about Cannonball in the other thread, guess I'll copy it. >>12323379


>>12322479
>If anyone else is struggling with this torrent... I gave up and downloaded this one
>http://www.anime-sharing.com/forum/hentai-games-38/japanese-%5B030207%5D%5B%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BD%E3%83%95%E3%83%88-%5D-cannon-ball-%EF%BD%9E%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B7%E3%83%B3%E7%8C%9B%E3%83%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%EF%BC%81-188127/

>As long as you follow the directions in the comments, it will work. And if you've exceeded your daily limit at the links and you're impatient, you can use hungryleech or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12325000
It happened before, and that time they said that they would be back. And they came back.
Why should we assume it's dead this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324499
MG is not to blame at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12324499
You have my condolences. But personally speaking, I always felt all those bleeps just makes it sound lewder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12326942
I bet you think reading A VN with only 50% of the text and scenes makes you rock hard then huh? Faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12326959
Just how are tiny little bleep sounds in the middle of words like penis and vagina in anyway close to just having 50% of the text and scenes?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a translation of the PC98 version of YU-NO? I know there's already one for the PC version, but it would be need to play the original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12326977
I bet you think these anti-piracy laws are going to help people too huh? Faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>reading translated garbitch
Even /vg/ has better taste than you now /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12326998
I don't know if you are serious but just in case... nobody is going to bother translating a PC98 game specially if there is a more recent version available.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327069
I just skimmed through /vg/ and it looks badder than usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327219
It's not like /jp/ looks (better than) usual to be fair, though.

[Anonymous No.]

No point waiting on translations for the new Favorite VNs. Im going to do it /jp/, I'm going to learn the language and you cant stop me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327267
Nobody is stopping you, god speed anon. Hopefully you will succeed where many broke their teeth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327246
It has much less retardation and actual discussion happens much more often, so I'm fine with here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327267
I'm going to translate AstralAir just to spite you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327286
If you do, make it quicker than I am proficient. I'm sure theres more to come anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327309
Why would I do that? I'll make sure to release the patch just as you get about halfway through it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327267
Speaking about Favorite, I'm surprised that MG has received so few requests for their games. Hoshimeno was actually a good moege. I suppose the guys requesting games either don't know the company or simply don't like moege.

Let's make this a reminder that you'll never see a Favorite game officially localized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328096
Favorite might be too pedo for official releases. Hoshimemo and AstralAir are their only good games anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328135
I think MG has already gone beyond such things. ImoPara at the least, and various other games have had lolis. Heck Koihime had one and that was from ages ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328157
I think they want to avoid games that are mostly loli though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328511
Favorite games aren't mostly loli, but AstralAir's central heroine is a loli, plus there's a lot of innuendo with the kindergartners and whatnot. Nothing that would likely pose any problems, but I wouldn't blame them for being cautious. Another issue is that AstralAir is pretty long, so it'd be expensive to translate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328653
Length is probably more of an issue than anything. I doubt we'll see any long moege until the market suddenly becomes a lot bigger. Maybe Steam will lead the way to that happening, but who knows?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328157
Even the youngest girl in Imouto Paradise has visible breasts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328715
Those twins are still loli though, and Mangagamer has had the occasional flat chested loli in nukige.

I wouldn't be worried about the underage content unless it was toddlercon or younger.

[Anonymous No.]

another MG hint

>So, for our last Otakon hint for a while-- Our fourth announcement will change the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328653
>>12328706
Well, MG is working on DC3 which is even longer than Koihime Musou. I think MG will try to sell on Steam the all ages version but even so, so far I don't see Circus moeges being better than Favorite.
I guess that the partnership between MG and Circus is going well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328787
Eden fucking confirmed

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328878

I will never understand how people can stand that art, let alone find it attractive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328857

That's not a nukige.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328878
Why is her spinal cord broken?

[Anonymous No.]

So those mangagamer and age talks have finished right? We're going to see KimiNozo officially translated, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328814
I don't know how long DC3 is, but AstralAir is probably over 3 MB, so it's a lot of text by any standard. Plus, yeah, DC3 they can sell on Steam, and the license was probably relatively cheap for them.

Yes, AstralAir is far better than anything Circus has ever shat out. It's actually pretty plot heavy, too, much more so than Hoshimemo. Sadly, though, quality doesn't always result in increased profits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329070
>mangagamer and age talks have finished right?
What? It finished when ixwreck trowed a tantrum and released patch despite negotiations. Why would age bother to talk again with someone who can't even ensure very basics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329110
But Bamboo and Kouki are best friends. Don't ruin my dreams, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329042
Because she's a hollow simulacra from a past epoch, perpetually trotted about to realize indifferent corporate ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329019
Why would it be a nukige?
Considering what was said on twitter I find it quite unlikely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329180
>One is a doujin game, and only one could potentially be considered nukige

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329199
Well, "potentially" may have different interpretations depending on who says it.
Anyway, I think that the potential nukige if it isn't Euphoria, it's the third annoucement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329199
There are 4 announcements, 2 of them licenses picked up after AX.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328857
Eden would be a logical pick up if minori is still talking to them, since the all ages version can go on Steam. Just a question of if Steam would allow an all ages Steam version and a 18+ version for the website.

[Anonymous No.]

http://ask.fm/Futsuu00/answer/116518590141

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328857
Jesus, everything I read is picked up for translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329319
Its still okay if you finish before release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329374
Most people only release after they finish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329319

>Central Heroine

Then pick something good to read for once damnit.

[Anonymous No.]

If MG ever manages to get Supipara it's conceivable that it would do better on Steam in the West then it actually did in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329468
Conceivable, but only because it'd be cheaper and because the novelty of having VNs on Steam hasn't worn off yet. It'd still be short and incomplete.

[Anonymous No.]

Another homo game confirmed!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329468
Speaking about Supipara, did it simply bomb because of the lack of ero content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329503
There wasn't any ero, and the game itself wasn't exactly complete, but they still sold it at full price.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329149
Bamboo is no longer in charge of MangaGamer. Hasn't been ever since Overdrive got into financial problems and he had to sell the company.

[Anonymous No.]

[22:24] <vvav> is it actually a decent project?
[22:24] <Moogy> no
[22:24] <vvav> oh
[22:24] <Moogy> http://nanuneko.wordpress.com/2013/12/25/merry-christmas/
[22:24] <vvav> well meh
[22:24] <Moogy> here's a sample
[22:24] <koestl> its a native jp speaker herkz
[22:25] <Moogy> there's so much work that needs to be done on the editing front that it's basically unsalvageable
[22:25] <Moogy> and they don't know what to do with it
[22:25] <koestl> who's apparently a really nice person but yeah the english is not good
[22:25] <Moogy> the TL itself is done, but it's unusable

Mahoyo is dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12327158
Nobody is translating PC98 games, period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12330217
Maybe Moogy-sama will translate it for everybody. After all, he's an expert. If you don't believe me, just ask him.

It really does seem like Type-Moon stuff is cursed when it comes to translations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12330939
>It really does seem like Type-Moon stuff is cursed when it comes to translations.
Tsukihime was translated at a time when fan translations of commercial-scale* VNs were practically unheard of. Fate/stay night was fully translated in 2008, when the current VN translation scene was just starting up and very few commercial titles had been fan translated. One or two failing projects do not make a curse.

Compare, for example, Key. Kanon was in limbo from before Tsukihime was released to 2009, Air has been in limbo from 2008 to 2014, Clannad's project has been a giant mess since...2007 or so? with no hopes of it ever becoming a complete release, and Tomoyo After went through similar things until getting its current shitty, but complete translation. The only projects that went properly were Planetarian, which is very short, Little Busters, which nonetheless took a long time (and EX isn't making too much progress) and Rewrite (of which the translation is heavily criticized, but that's more because of hate boners for Ixrec, not because of it being worse than your average translation).

*I'm aware Tsukihime is a doujin game, but it's a non-free doujin game larger than most commercial VNs. At the time, almost nothing beyond free doujin VNs was translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12328135
>Hoshimemo and AstralAir are their only good games
I always had the impression that IroSekai was quite a success on Japan. The reviews I read about it were quite positive so I always thought that it was a great title to be localized.

Favorite also shipped the game a lot through its fan disc and word end complete releases so this shows how much of a success the game was.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just hoping Sekai Project keeps expanding and tries to fix up other shit. They're working with key so maybe we'll see clannad in 2020?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333537
If they ever bring Clannad, they should try to get the rights for its PS3 version.
It'll make the game more appealing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333560
Or at least port the high resolution PS3 assets to PC, yeah. The PS3 will be a pretty old console by the time they get around to releasing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333499
It's really boring. I mean, I guess it's no worse than your typical moege, but it was a letdown after Hoshimemo. It's pretty, though, and that's all you need to sell copies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12330087
Wait, really? Source, I mean I knew they were in financial trouble after Bokuten but I don't remember anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333684
basically everyone except a few very rare companies like type-moon are in financial trouble when it comes to the eroge industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333684
They never made any announcement about it or anything. But ask anyone involved with MG or anyone knowing anyone involved with MG and they'll be able to confirm Bamboo sold MG to Hobibox ages ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333699
We're not talking about 'can't take any risks' kinda of financial trouble, Overdrive was in 'well that's it, time to declare bankruptcy' financial trouble. They managed to get back on their feet just barely by having a shitty remake (of Green Green) crowdfunded. Crowdfunding + established fanbase + minimal effort allowed them to release a game with practically no risk, miraculously saving them from the brink of bankruptcy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333700
Man, that makes me feel really bad. Stupid Canadians for ruining it for everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333740
They should choke on maple syrup and die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333746
Exactly my thoughts, Bamboo and Kouki being best friends was my only hope at seeing age games in the west after the whole MLA patch thing. I guess I just have to hope Schwarzesmarken doesn't do amazingly well and whatever actual VNs that get on Steam sell incredibly so that they're forced to try and do something with the western market.

One day I'll stop being lazy and learn Japanese, one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12333700

I don't think Mangagamer is actually under the Hobibox umbrella, seeing as they're just as happy to license their shit to JAST, so much as hobibox and mangagamer share the same CEO.

It was originally a joint venture between various interested parties with bamboo heading it all in the first place, so he probably just bought out/took over the role from bamboo when the shit hit the fan.

[Anonymous No.]

Hypothetically, if I wanted to start a translation project, how would I go about helping cool people like OP find out about it so people knew I was working on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12334530
Just posting it in this thread works as well as anything else. If you want you could make a page on TLWiki or something so people can track your progress.

[Anonymous No.]

Did nobody buy Harajuku Dating Paradise from JAST?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12335233
Would you? If the answer is no, consider that it is very likely other people came to the same conclusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12335259
I don't pay for anything yet most generic nukiges get uploaded.

[Anonymous No.]

can anyone tell me if any of the bishoujo mangekyou installments have been translated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12335370
http://vndb.org/v/all?sq=bishoujo+mangekyou

[Anonymous No.]

>>12335370
10% finished of the first game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12329491
Considering the wording, this sounds like something related to 'Milles, Knight of Anal Tyranny' rather then a homo game. So it's probably something from Softhouse-Seal which was expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12337834

Yes butt

[Anonymous No.]

>>12337890
Huh. I once had to deal with something like that when I was an intern. Except that the glass broke, and we had to pull out the shards and keep the faggot from dying.

I hate humanity so much.

[Anonymous No.]

somebody needs to translate Favourite's titles just so we can know the awesomeness of their games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12337949
Here's your answer:
>>12327267
>>12328096
>>12328135
>>12328653
>>12328706
>>12329080

The best you can do besides learning japanese yourself is to post on MG forums requesting a partnership with Favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, someone do a patch for the game Bittersweet Fools.

Thanks, see you in a few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12326959
>>12327003
You know, insulting someone's sexuality doesn't really mean anything. It's like if I made fun of you for being a virgin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12338364
'Virgin' is actually more of an insult than 'fag' in modern society.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/496741478337482753

From Dovac, it looks like Steam is fine with 18+ patch for Steam titles as long as the patch is off Steam. Guessing that is the route Sekai Project will go then with Grisaia (and other 18+ titles), since he said in a previous tweet "Just fyi, Steam is ok with our proposed 18+ solution and I'll will have more details in the future"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340033
I guess I had no basis to think it would have been different, but that's surprisingly reasonable of Valve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12340094
Why no Meikyuu? Is it suspended or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341737
Wasn't meant to reply. Woops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341737
Meikyuu is suspended for the time being. The translator is working on an official project. No estimation on when he'll be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12341747
Ah, alright. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know why this is happening in Kamidori Alchemy Meister every time I use a feather/pickup treasure? I've followed the readme to the word through both installs after redownloading and have tried running under admin/various compatibility modes. Neither the /jp/ VN wiki nor even Google seem to have anything for me. Wat do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342178
Did you buy the game or did you pirate it? Check that the files are not corrupted. (All files, including translation files.)

Do you have a file named field.bin? What is your operating system? Try disabling UAC. Where did you install the game? Give the full path, if you answer to me.

Try playing to game on a different computer or different operating system, if you have one available.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12342178
>various compatibility modes

Oh, and make sure that you disable those. The game was made in 2011. Compatibility modes are more likely to cause problems, than to give help.

Just set "laguage for non-unicode programs" to japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

The manga gamer otakon panel is quite soon.
Any guesses besides ephoria?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12322165

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343052
New Higurashi.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like MangaGamer is recording the panel and trying to do a live stream of the panel, but they note that they may have a technical problem that prevents a live stream and have to put it up later

Either way though, the usual transcript guy will be at the panel.

[Anonymous No.]

So when does the MangaGamer panel start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344478

Midnight

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344531
Midnight what time zone?

[Anonymous No.]

What's the text stream again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344578
UTC of course. Its universal standard

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344578

EST, Otakon's on the east coast

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344719

http://bayoab.info/live/live2.php

[Anonymous No.]

kouryuu confirmed for masturbating on camera

[Anonymous No.]

>>12344427
Can you give a link to the supposedly live stream?

The panel starts in about 2 hours 30 mins, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12345845

http://mangagamerstaff.tumblr.com/post/94108086384/mangagamer-otakon-2014-booth-and-panel-information

[Anonymous No.]

>>12345867
MG confirmed on their twitter that they'll just record the stream and put it online later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12343052
I'm still curious about the title that had a ESRB rating due to MangaGamer partner request.
I think that it's probably KiraKira. MangaGamer previously said that given the success of Go Go Nippon they'd see about putting KiraKira on Steam with a re-translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346339
Speaking of Go Go Nippon...

https://twitter.com/bamboo_milktub/status/485339020830863360

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346339
Doddler on why they got a rating for their recent titles, it's an AO for one of their partners who don't want to release a title in the West without a rating, which would exclude KiraKira.

>So why get a rating? Quite simply, we are doing so at the request of one of our partners (which one you'll have to guess). Though I'm not entirely sure why an ESRB rating was requested for this title, I can speculate that being officially rated by a games rating body, even with an AO rating, would add to the legitimacy of a product and likely lessen questions of legality. It's also possible that because being part of such an agency like EOCS/Sofurin in Japan is important, that they'd want to ensure such steps are taken in the US market as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346359
Why am I thinking of Minori.
It actually makes sense if the title that got the ESRB rating is Eden which has been hinted has the potential 4th annoucement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346388
Seems like something Minori would do, but Eden is all ages. Even if it has some cuestionable content (don't know, haven't read ir), I hardly doubt it would get an AO rating.

My bet is on Clockup and that they requested a rating as a condition to license euphoria.

[Anonymous No.]

Mangagamer confirmed for no stream, also mangagamer not at their panel yet?

Back to doing things the old way, http://bayoab.info/

[Anonymous No.]

It has started.

[Anonymous No.]

21:08:34 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> (arguing over best girl)
21:08:55 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> (and what the girls are like)

*sigh*

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346522

You know they always trot out their upcoming stuff first, what'd you expect?

The new stuff happens after that, then QA

[Anonymous No.]

gay shit finished translating and confirmed for 2015 release

[Anonymous No.]

>stars haru, who loses his memories in a hit and run
>and the main story follows, fuka, who comes to the city and has amnesia

[Anonymous No.]

Talk about Higurashi, still no release date.
Fuck you manga gamer, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346602
It's still in re-translation

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346585
First line refers to No Thank You, second line is Ozmafia.

[Anonymous No.]

>they have decided to rework the game a bit to put it on Steam

This is why I hate games going on Steam.

[Anonymous No.]

21:24:06 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> Chou Dengeki Stryker from Overdrive (All Ages)
21:24:14 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> after the success of Go Go Nippon on steam

well that's something

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346613
I know. Its just amusing how both are proag-with-amnesia.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the iOS/Android version of higurashi from Seams the same translation as MG's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346621
Means 18+ elsewhere and all ages on steam, as well as all ages that are just an edit from an 18+ version of something, are no problem on Steam

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346629
It's getting a new translation and new artwork.

[Anonymous No.]

>21:27:25 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> The House in Fata Morgana

huh I thought that was going through Sekai

[Anonymous No.]

21:29:45 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> next...
21:29:52 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> title from Clockup

Euphoria confffirmed

[Anonymous No.]

>21:29:52 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> title from Clockup

here it comes

[Anonymous No.]

21:29:22 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> as I said, we got nothing but BL and otome tonight, so sorry guys

Okay, I'm done...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346641
Cool, more horror VNs are always appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

21:32:21 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> euphoria
Whoah, they actually did it.

[Anonymous No.]

zOMG we get to play euphoria in 2017.
I <3 manga gaymer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346659

I'm pretty sure that's a typo and it should be >as I said, we got nothing BL and otome tonight, so sorry guys

since they just announced euphoria

[Anonymous No.]

>video stream

BTW, I would never dare to go to this panel. What if you parents found out that you went to an eroge panel? Or your boss? Or you future employer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346675
euphoria is otome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346675
No, Euphoria is most otome game ever, because every mesubuta out there is secretly dreaming about becoming nikubenki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346684

But Anonymous, you have no job and your mother already looks down on you, so who cares?

Also no stream, since the connection is too shitty supposedly. It's being recorded though so if you really want a video, there'll be one later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346684
>What if you parents found out that you went to an eroge panel? Or your boss? Or you future employer?
Couldn't care less.

[Anonymous No.]

21:36:11 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> we are doing the HD remaster which came out this year
21:36:14 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> 800x600 was the old one
21:36:19 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> it's being bumped to up to 1024
21:36:21 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> it will be uncensored
21:36:26 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> we're not going to cut anything from this game
Thats pretty cool. Gonna throw my monies at MG as soon as preorders open.
I just hope they don't get rapelay'ed because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346694
>video, there'll be one later
That is what I meant.

>your mother already looks down on you
She doesn't, because I have lied to her that I have a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>after our first panel, we left you with the words "keep the minority spirt"

Well if there's one thing ef had, it was a minority of sales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346719
Or minority of good pr...

[Anonymous No.]

Eden confirmed, for whoever called that.

[Anonymous No.]

>(Supapara? couldn't read the tenten locations fasts enough)

Time for anki, mang.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346719
Minori is pretty much the worst eroge company out there imo. I kind of hope they only sell one copy, and that the guy calls his bank to cancel the transaction before uploading it. I don't have anything against MG or anything, but Minori should have just gone under with Supipara's release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346728
Supapara too, for 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346736
samefag.
Read it already, would not recommend.

[Anonymous No.]

Supapara should do better for MangaGamer then in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346736
>21:43:09 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> we're aiming the all ages version to steam
>21:43:11 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> we are not editing the game, this was the original release
>21:43:17 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> plus mosaic was a later addon
>21:43:47 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> and that leads into the next announcement .... all the profits from eden are going to go into the localization of our next announcement
>21:45:43 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> Supipara

>21:43:47 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> and that leads into the next announcement .... all the profits from eden are going to go into the localization of our next announcement

more like confirmed for never

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346744
Eden will be on Steam, so it will make a bunch of money

[Anonymous No.]

Don't tell me they're actually going to try and make another chapter of Supipara.

Oh, nvm they just said they will. I have a feeling this is going to end horribly.

[Anonymous No.]

>episodic VNs

No, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would anyone want to read Supipara?

[Anonymous No.]

21:47:57 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> if this succeeds, all future chapters of supipara will be released here in the west first
21:48:15 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> this is something that has never been done before in the west

Minori is going to kill itself in Japan. I doubt jap aspies will ever forgive this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346744
>21:47:06 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> so the project here between us and minori
>21:47:27 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> once the profits from eden release 100k, we'll do supipara ch1, at 200k, we'll do ch2
>21:47:46 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> however, the sum profit from all 3 games will then be going into the development of the rest of supipara
>21:47:57 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> if this succeeds, all future chapters of supipara will be released here in the west first
>21:48:15 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> this is something that has never been done before in the west

Definitively confirmed for Never. Even with Steam, it'd take more sales than GGN just to hit 100k with gaben's cut.

[Anonymous No.]

> The house in Fata Morgana
> Euphoria
> Eden

That's 3 games, not 5

[Anonymous No.]

So I guess Supipara was the announcement that would "change the world"? Seems like a whole lot of nothing again but I wasn't expecting anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346772

It was four games, not five. I guess Supipara is technically number four.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346758
Honestly, I don't think anyone should. I picked it up off Amazon for $20 earlier this year, and that was probably the only $20 from the last few years that I actually regret spending. On the bright side, I doubt that it'll even get released, so it shouldn't matter that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346763
minori is already dead in japan.

[Anonymous No.]

21:51:30 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> Q: With Supipara, why aren't you going with kickstarter?
21:51:43 <bay|Ota|Mangagamer> A: Because both us at mangagamer and minori want to be more professional about this

[Anonymous No.]

Does Sekai project bother showing up to otakon? They're pretty silent lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346784
> Minori
> Manga Gamer
> professional

LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346789

Mangagamer's usually the one ones with big shit for Otakon, and I think that's only because it's the biggest eastcoast con and Kouryuu is eastcoast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346784
I don't understand why MG is so stubborn about KS. They would easily get enough monies for next several episodes.
There's nothing "professional" about missing such business opportunities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346789
Why would you care?
All sekai does is to release vns we already have translations for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346800
Because then they'll be like SP and use KS for EVERYTHING.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346800

I think it's more being realistic. I mean at genuinely good indie games that only make 100k.

Mangagamer would be asking for 100k for one episode+kickstarter cut+money to cover all the benefits that kickstarter people expect.

I don't really think they'd pull it off.

WEE itself made less than 100k

[Anonymous No.]

Feeling Euphoric.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there going to be an R18 release of Dengeki Styler?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346811
WEE doesn't have Ef anime series hype behind it and its low-rate doujin game.
Announce "original japanese game developed by minori, creators of Ef, specifically for English users" and you will get as much money as you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346825

There already was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346815
I'm glad at least someone got their tastes catered to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346825
It was released ages ago, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346831
>>12346836
Then it shouldn't count as a new acquisition.

[Anonymous No.]

So we'll have from MG
>Gahktun
>Euphoria
>Eden

MG is saving the VN translation scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346829
>Announce "original japanese game developed by minori, creators of Ef, specifically for English users" and you will get as much money as you want.

I think you mean "and you'll get a bunch of people asking "Who the fuck is Minori?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346781
Haven't read it but what's so bad about Supipara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346856
Thats why I've said "creators of Ef anime series". Ef is one of most popular anime titles ever, its in MAL popularity top.

[Anonymous No.]

>It already failed and nearly bankrupted the company, but if you give us money for something else, we'll turn around and throw it the failure!

How has it taken Minori this long to become bankrupt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346867
The character designs look really bad half of the time, you can't install it without a patched installer, there's no ero, the characters are pretty boring, the plot is mediocre at best, there's no ero, and they tried to sell it at full price even though it's incredibly unfinished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346867
Imagine a shitty harem light novel, but instead of being a $10 paperback, it's an $80 VN, released once every 6 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346800
100K is rare for kickstarter. Usually, you need a lot of fame to pull that off.

>>12346829
WEE had Spice and Wolf though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346868

Sadly that popularity didn't translate into actual sales, having been pirated less than grisaria was downloaded and being mangagamer's worst selling title.

Kickstarters for more popular things have failed for less, so I would certainly think twice as bothering with kickstarter right now. I believe Kouryuu's stance on it is that he doesn't want to dip his toes into the pond unless he's got something he's sure won't fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346885
>>12346884
I don't even know how they could fuck it up this bad. The whole point is getting to reuse a bunch of art, character models, etc so you can release frequently at lower costs. Instead, they charge absurd amounts for a generic five hour shitty game and say that REAL FANS would buy multiple copies to keep them in business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346889
Don't compare 18+ stuff which is ignored by press and all-ages stuff.
Supipara KS would receive plenty of coverage by ANN, Siliconera and other anime-related outlets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346800
Ouch. Shots fired at Sekai Project.
>>12346800
Dovac, put your trip on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346903
You mean like how Siliconera and ANN already cover Cartagra, KnS, Saya, etc?

[Anonymous No.]

From Dovac

>I see shots fired
>ah oh well, got bigger fish to fry
>my personal opinion was that was poor taste in acknowledging a competitor business model
>I'll leave it at that

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346844
It wasn't. They announced Fata, Euphoria, Eden, and Supipara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346901
Minori is, like, the epitome of everything that's wrong with the eroge industry. I really wish they'd just go away, though I admit it is rather amusing seeing them reduced to making nukige to stay afloat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346912
How could one be so fucking retarded?
I've mentioned difference between 18+ and all-ages in that very same post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346924
The difference, Captain Illiteracy, does not exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346913
Well maybe either of them might have the high ground if they had titles anyone actually wanted. But I guess they think there's more money to be had in getting licences to entice people outside of the fan base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346924

He was pointing out that they already cover that.

>>12346913

Jeez you drama magnet, I doubt they gave a shit about you so much as they wanted a polite way to say "haha no way we'd get 200 grand if we asked for it on kickstarter.

>>12346903

Even with mainstream media coverage, it's still a nearly insurmountable peak. Look at Dyacks hilarious failed attempts to kickstart a sequel to eternal darkness, a much bigger series. He tried twice and only got a hundred grand each time.

Not to mention, you have to realize that they're saying "100k profit", meaning the actual number is likely to be even higher. And then they have to raise it even further to account for rewards, cause nobody gives a shit about kickstarters without rewards these days, and then it goes even higher to account for kickstarter's cut. All for one episode. Everyone would be shitting on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346903
The thing is though that there's a significant chance it could fail. If it does, then Minori would probably leave Mangagamer forever. At least with the current set up, they get at least a few months to gather up 100k with the help of a somewhat famous VN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346937
>All for one episode
One five hour piece of generic tripe. Supipara is a disaster that shouldn't be revived. I can't even imagine why they would want to sink more money into something that has already bombed like hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346884
>>12346885
http://biz-journal.jp/i/2013/02/300_entry.html

What the hell happened when the budget for this game including marketing was 100M yen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346943
I'm pretty sure that it'll sell well though since the average vn on there is worse than generic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346954
>http://biz-journal.jp/i/2013/02/300_entry.html

Well, you see, it took a hundred grand to make the game, and 900 grand to be embezzled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346956
>sell well
A whole 2,000 copies!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346954
Remember when Minori's president quoted the cost that goes into making a game and how insane all his numbers were?

That's where it went. They're either just throwing money away for nothing, or are chronic liars about how much money and effort they're spending on things to try to convince people that their games are high quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346913
Dovac, Dovac, Dovac. He comes into /jp/ and gives Mangagamer shit for never getting a big localisation even though they had just announced a Liar-Soft title then he thinks Mangagamer not wanting to kickstart is a personal insult against him.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/dobacco/with_replies

Dovac protected his twitter account. Someone got in troule with the shareholders www

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346969

2000 might be just barely be possible, even if they're selling it at 50 smackaroos.

The problem is that gaben needs his cut, so they'd need to see atleast 3000, which nothing from mangagamer has achieved for less than 20 dollars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346990
Why dovac hates MG so much? Its not like they even compete.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346995
Don't they actually work together on some games? Very odd that he's so butthurt at MG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346995
YukkuriS was part of MG and he moved to Sekai Project. His twitter showed there was some shit going between them a while ago. I think it's a big bro putting pubes on little bro shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346982
Hi cafe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347012
Isn't he the one that was fired for being awful?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347014

Hi dovac

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347012
Wasn't he kicked out of SP as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347014

Cafe's at Otakon right now. If anything that'd be Doddler.

I don't think it is, but is that you Doddler-senpai? I love you sexually

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347021
Hello Newman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347023

Yukkuri = Shini. They 'fired' YukkuriS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347036
Nobody will ever figure it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346991
I doubt they'll charge 50 since it's a short game unless Minori forces them to. Maybe 20-30. They'll need to sell a lot, but I don't think there's a strict time limit before Minori decides to stop caring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347050
Minori already tried charging twice that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347050

25 is still a long climb. That'd be 6000 copies with Gaben's cut, ignoring whatever it costs to actually translate the game.

And woe be upon this venture if it's 100k profit for MINORI instead of both, then the amount they'd have to sell could be really impossible depending on whatever the royalties cut is.

Basically I think getting enough to fund supipara 1 might be feasible, but beyond that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347036

Shini's twitter is older than the YukkuriS drama, so while this is a fun conspiracy theory I have trouble believing it. YukkuriS working for them wouldn't terribly surprise me though, there's not really too many translators in the VN business and he's one of the ones that's gone silent.

[Anonymous No.]

...So wait, what was the short nukige that DS55 pumped out? You forgot something mangagamer!

[Anonymous No.]

Getting 100k profit is not that farfetched as you may think, since (months ago) shitty Go Go Nippon went over 12.000 sales on Steam and even shittier Sakura Spirit surpased that in record time.
eden* looks better than the turds mentioned before, has the Ef hype behind it and it's actually good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347106

Euphoria probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347111
Yeah, euphoria is really "short", only 35k lines with almost 3mb of pure text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347111

Euphoria is about ten times the length of whatever DS55 translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347125
>>12347133

So I guess we shouldn't be expecting it to be released before 2017?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347108
>and it's actually good.
Nooooo, no it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347108
Eden is most likely going to be sold for maybe 5 times the price, so I doubt as many people will actually buy it. Also, it won't have ero, so the only people who would potentially be hyped about it most likely won't care enough to buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347147
Yes, yes it is. I

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347149
go go nippon didn't have any ero either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347137
It's nowhere even close to 3mb of text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347108

Yeah, but GGN was ten bux, and even with 12000 sales it didn't break 100k profit when you factor in gaben's 35%.

Eden will probably make 100k profit(at least before it's split between mangagamer and minori), but supipara? I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12346800
MG is right that it isn't professional for a commercial company to resort to KS. It's more of an indie thing, and even then KS has really become a plague on the concept of "indie" and has done a lot to damage the spirit of independent production.

So I respect MG for staying away from KS, though I don't think it's professional to tell your consumers "Give us 100k and we'll give you Supapira" either. That's pretty much like KS in how it casts consumers in the role of investors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347155
I'm pretty sure it wasn't $50 either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347157
2850048 bytes in utf8.

inb4 same retarded discussion that sjis is somehow more correct than utf8 despite sjis not being original encoding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347147
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

I see no reason to why Eden* won't be a huge success. It's small as fuck and the crowd who loved Planetarian and the like will flock all over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347171
I remember you. You're the retard who fucked up the encoding for some game and claimed it was twice the size.

Never learn, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347137

2017 sounds a bit far out. I'd put my money on 2016. Eight months to translate, six months to edit and "beta test", six months for Minori to be retards, 2 months to sit around jacking off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347189
>six months for Minori to be retards
They're talking about euphoria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347175

The price tag is a pretty big cockblock. Nobody pays full price for shit on steam anymore.

Still, 100k doesn't sound impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347186
>measure every single game script in one encoding
>measure one game script in a different encoding that's twice as inefficient
>GUYS GUYS. IT'S TWICE AS LONG AS EVERYTHING ELSE. SEE, NUMBERS DUN LIE

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347171
Well, if you're going to compare it to other script sizes listed on TLWiki or Japanese sites or whatever, then yes, it needs to be SJIS, because that's how everybody counts script size.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347199

Whoops, Sorry, I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347186
You still didn't learn what is encoding, eh?
I intentionally convert all scripts into utf8, its impossible to "fuck it up".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347199
Euphoria has been in the works for a long time. Wouldn't be surprised if it was half done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347219
You're fucking up by measuring by numbers that literally nobody else in the entire world uses. Want me to convert them to morse code and claim that's the script size? Because that's pretty much what you're doing, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347212
Character count would be the ideal measurement, I'm not sure why it's not more commonly used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347227
Pretty sure euphoria is the one that is listed as the mystery announcement that is 29% translated on the status page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347227
Euphoria is likely the Otakon project MangaGamer listed as 29% done for this week's thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347227
A lot of that work was figuring out if it was even something they would pursue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347231
You have no friggin idea what are you talking about.
Many game engines nowadays use some of unicode encodings instead of obsolete sjis shit.
Age and their RUGP use utf8 inside.
Light and their Malie use ucs16 inside.
Many KrKr games use utf8.
Moreover, I've seen plenty of cases when game has kanji which are not present in SJIS tables, so retards are people who use obsolete, lossy encoding in year 2014.

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't Euphoria break like a dozen laws?

Also what's the Otakon Announcement that's fully translated? Eden? I might buy it if it's reasonably priced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347269
>minori
>reasonable price

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347269
What laws does euphoria break? It's just gory bdsm.

Yeah they said eden was fully translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347259
I'm sure, little bitch. Everybody else is wrong and you're right. The entire world just hasn't realized your magnificence and bent to your will yet. You let me know when you've gone ahead and converted every single number to the scale that you and only you use so we can all bask in the glory of the new age you have brought us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347273
How much was ef?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347286
It was two $40 releases I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347282
>entire world
Switched to utf8 like, 10 years ago. This very 4chan page is using utf8 too, but you are too stupid to notice it.
Also, thats pretty poor attempt at evading the facts that your shitty sjis even cannot properly represent game like KKK at all, because it doesn't have needed kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347259
We're talking about measuring script length, not best practices for coding a VN engine. The standard is to use SJIS when measuring length, no one cares what the engine uses internally. Your numbers are meaningless for comparison because they don't correspond to the scale in common use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347249

Well the announcements were originally probably going to be Euphoria and Fata Morgana with this minori bullshit being a last minute addition.

So it's either 29%, or done, and Fata Morgana had a demo already I think?

29% seems to about line up with when doddler confirmed it was a go and their speed with similar length games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347259
You're the obnoxious dumbass who goes "It's so hot. It's 300 degrees here. LOLOLOL I MEAN KELVIN GOTCHA."

[Anonymous No.]

So guys, how about that eden/minori announcement. Did it live up to the hype? Did it change the world?

Will we look back at this moment in VN history and classify things according to "Pre-Eden announcement" and "Post-Eden-announcement"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347377
Maybe it was a reference to the story, you know, the one where the world is ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347377
I think it might be the final nail in the coffin for minori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347317
Just because TLwiki uses it, it doesn't mean its "standard".

Also, once again, SJIS cannot represent plenty of characters which VNs use, so whatever statistics you get from converted files are actually wrong,
since conversion was lossy and throwed out such stuff as 唵, 氐, 抳, 搔, 骶,哆, 囉, 嚩, 攞 and so on and on.
All Masada stats on wiki are flawed because of this dumb adherence to sjis, for example.

>>12347368
Yes, I'm dubmass because you didn't know noone uses sjis anymore and all modern engines switched to unicode ages ago. Logic is your strong point, eh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347377
The West getting a Japanese-produced VN before Japan would be a pretty big change, but only if it actually gets to that point, and only if it has any impact whatsoever on other companies. My guess is it won't change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347430
Just use character count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347430
So I should tell people I have a 2.032*10^-1 meter penis because that's the standard for length?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347430
Bring up a list of script sizes with plenty of titles in utf8 so that we can get something useful out of your numbers, otherwise they are pointless if we have nothing to compare them too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347430
Uh, it's not just TLWiki. Japanese sites that list script sizes do it in SJIS too, like this one:
http://anime.geocities.jp/notazsite1/soft/size.html

And you don't have to just throw out characters, you can substitute a different two-byte character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347449
http://pastebin.com/870uQ2qz here.

>>12347460
>you can substitute a different two-byte character
I don't see how unique kanji count would work correctly with this approach, for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347434
>The West getting a Japanese-produced VN before Japan would be a pretty big change
Doesn't GGN count as this? I don't know what all this hype MG is spewing out over something they've already done...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347476
Why don't you just take your unique kanji count from the UTF-8 encoding and the script length from SJIS? Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347491
Not really because it was only ever meant for the West (and since it's dual-language if for some reason a Japanese wanted to play it they could).

Supapira would be released in the West first and then in Japan at a later date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347559
>Supapira would be released in the West first and then in Japan at a later date.

Now that I think of it, that's kind of a weird choice. How much later would they even bother to release it, since all the work would be done on their end? Until the English version had of an episode had made enough money to pay for an episode's print-run? I assume that supipara wasn't a digital release given how rare those are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347589
It's just a move to show appreciation if the West happens to save their pet project.

[Anonymous No.]

So with GGN and now Chou Dengeki Stryker for Steam, looks like MangaGamer is working on saving Overdrive. They can throw KiraKira all ages onto Steam down the road as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347646

Yeah, but it's strange move. I mean, it's not like westerners give a shit about vn companies, so who would care if it's release was held back in Japan because minori was so grateful for the gaijin pigdogs?

If anything it seems more like they're punishing nips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347657

>If anything it seems more like they're punishing nips.

That is also a valid reason for them, to make Japanese pirates that care about story based titles think twice about pirating future titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347674

But I thought Japanese didn't pirate titles, only gaijin did that!

And even then, it was mostly just evil canadians

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347654

And a nebulous GGN: 2014 in the making. I wonder if all of those end up success(lol), would Overdrive become a more western-facing company and maybe try a real title aimed at the west?

[Anonymous No.]

The title DS55 is working on is Eden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347171
Japanese characters in UTF-8 are mostly 3 bytes, while in SJIS they're mostly 2 bytes. So if Euphoria is 2.85 MB in UTF-8, we can assume it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.9 MB in SJIS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347695
>would Overdrive become a more western-facing company and maybe try a real title aimed at the west?
What do you think GoGo Nippon was?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347722

A short title that was 80% reused assets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347728
what were the assets reused from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347739

Well a lot of the backgrounds were from Kira Kira, and the music from Deardrops.

Infact I'm pretty sure all of the music is recycled from something.

The only thing they actually made for GGN was a few new backgrounds, the two character sprites, and a bandful of CGs(what was it, ten?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347754

two sets of character sprites*

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347754
>>12347761

Well that's just cheap

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347780

Pretty much.

Though to be fair, the very idea of aiming a VN at the west was psychotic back then(still kind of is), so it kind of makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347695
>would Overdrive become a more western-facing company and maybe try a real title aimed at the west?
Dengeki Stryker was made with Western audiences in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347993

source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347993
>>12348005

And if that's true, then why did Jack get fucked out of a route, Twice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347167
>MG is right that it isn't professional for a commercial company to resort to KS. It's more of an indie thing, and even then KS has really become a plague on the concept of "indie" and has done a lot to damage the spirit of independent production.
Why is it 'an indie thing'? Because a lot of indies use crowdfunding? What's next, are you going to call making games that don't perfectly fit into an established genre unprofessional because indies do it a lot?

The current system where companies make stuff, toss it into the market and hope people like it enough to pay for it is retarded. It makes much more sense to pitch your concept to the target audience before commencing production. After all, what do we buy products for? It's not 'to be able to use them', since we can just download, copy or otherwise obtain the data that represents the digital product. We don't actually need something to be produced beyond the initial copy. So why are we paying for copies in the hopes the creator makes interesting stuff in the future, rather than directly funding the production of the game itself?

Beyond allowing customers to exert more precise control over companies (you pay for the product you want to be created, not to support hypothetical future titles you *may* like), it also allows companies to take greater risks with less chance of failure - if the crowdfunding fails, you lose only the initial investment involved in making it a potential project. You no longer have to wait all the way until release (at which point you've dumped a ton of money into it and can only pray it does well enough not to screw you hard financially) to find out whether there is sufficient demand for the product, and can make products of which you're unsure if the market will support it.

(continued...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348018
(...continued)

The way Kickstarter projects go aren't always great; customers do not yet understand crowdfunding and it's currently home to many projects that should not be crowdfunded. But there is nothing wrong with the concept of crowdfunding, and if refined further it will be a far better system than 'make something and hope it sells' ever was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348005
http://novelnews.net/2011/05/26/bamboo-broadcast-1/

>LGJinnai: Do you think fan translators that have tried to promote buying the official Japanese releases of games instead of pirating them have helped the industry?
>bamboo: I think that fan translators were not helping us at all, until last year, when NNL started helping us with ef. So I think that cooperating with fan translators is an effective way to develop the market… Although, I still feel negatively towards fan translators who translate without the approval of the companies. But I am looking forward to releasing Dengeki Stryker to the Western market — it’s made a bit with the Western market in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348035

Well I guess bamboo is fucking nuts, as if we already didn't know.

>Hmm, what kind of VN would gaijin like?
>Oh I know
>Let's make a mediocre VN
>But add an american girl
>Oh and you should make her the best girl
>"So I should give her a route?"
>Nah, that's not important

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348018
>Why is it 'an indie thing'?
Because any commercial company worth its salt should already have a way to fund its products.

Crowdfunding is already getting worse rather than better, because it's a bad idea. It's shit for roughly the same reasons direct democracy is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348018
>You no longer have to wait all the way until release... to find out whether there is sufficient demand for the product

No sane company does or should be doing this. That's what market research if for. Hell, you shouldn't really be running a kickstarter if you don't know if there's sufficient demand for a project to have a shot at reaching your goal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348061
To be fair, there is a difference between catering and "made a bit with the Western market in mind".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348018
>Why is it 'an indie thing'?
Because any established company that uses it to raise funds for their core business is basically saying "we fucked up enough we need people to donate money to us".

Using it to raise money for commercially non-viable projects, an indie with no money to make anything or making projects outside what a company normally do is a great use of Kickstarter.

Using it to try and revive a failed series with little/no fanbase support is not a good use of KS and I think "unprofessional" is not a bad word for it.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to the original Fata Morgana group?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348515

According to Siliconera, playism just didn't have enough money.

What I find more amazing is that Dovac didn't get his tentacles into it. Seems like he's ready to remortgage his house and launch a kickstarter whenever he sees an opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348018
>less chance of failure
http://kotaku.com/how-a-successful-kickstarter-lost-half-a-million-dollar-1608877998

>if the crowdfunding fails, you lose only the initial investment
So basically you paid and...got nothing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348020
>it will be a far better system than 'make something and hope it sells' ever was.
You... You do understand that practically every single Kickstarter out there is made to KICK START a business idea to sell something, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348611
They published that article in 2013, then released a demo with the first two chapters a couple of months back. If they really didn't have the money they wouldn't have put out that demo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348806
I was speaking from the perspective of the company. Consumers are only just starting to understand that you shouldn't trust everything you read on the internet and you shouldn't open your wallet until you've checked if there's actually a reasonable chance the project creator can actually make what he's kickstarting. As a consumer, chance of failure still isn't all that high as long as you're not retarded. (That project was literally "we'll make everything you want in a couple months! also we never made a game before". One of their issues was that they paid someone the entire sum upfront and he ran with it - how incompetent do you need to be in running a company to have that happen?)

>>12348361
>Because any commercial company worth its salt should already have a way to fund its products.
Ignoring the baseless 'should have' (the common procedure for startups is that they borrow money, in other words they spend money they don't even have), what if the company does want to make a product it COULD fund but is not convinced it's worth the gamble? Being able to fund your products is one thing, expecting a return on that investment is an entirely different thing.

>Crowdfunding is already getting worse rather than better, because it's a bad idea. It's shit for roughly the same reasons direct democracy is shit.
How is it 'already getting worse'? And you say that "it's shit for [...] the same reasons [as] direct democracy", but last I checked there is no objective list of reasons direct democracy is shit. Explain, why is crowdfunding shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348463
>No sane company does or should be doing this. That's what market research if for.
Then every company is insane, even the giants in video gaming. Nintendo released Captain Rainbow, EA released The Sims Online, Microsoft released Age of Empires Online, Sony made the Wonderbook line, Activision released Blur. Market research isn't perfect, and you can only do your best to predict what will hopefully sell, then stick as much as possible to that formula. That's how the games industry got into its current state, and other media suffer from it just as much.

In a perfect world, you could do market research and from that you could know whether or not a game would sell. In practice, market research showed there was no market for Guitar Hero, and market research shows that releasing a butchered freemium version of Dungeon Keeper is a good idea. Deciding everything by market research kills good ideas while leaving companies at a huge risk of products bombing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349078
Ah, yes. The old, if the company doesn't deliver on their promises, it's the consumer's fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12348018
>>12349078
>>12349096
I've seen plenty of weird lunatics on /jp/ discussing digital products, piracy and business models.

This is not a thread for discussing those, I do not care about radical ideas, and I believe neither do most others here.

However, I do know a fine lady who would be very interested in talking about this with you:

http://visualnovelaer.fuwanovel.org/
http://fuwanovel.org/

You can start by reading this:
http://wiki.fuwanovel.org/index.php/Copyright_is_Not_a_Natural_Inalienable_Human_Right

Have fun!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349234
Do you respond to e-mails from Nigerian princes telling you that with little effort you can get shitloads of cash from them? No? Then why do you believe an online crowdfunding campaign by people best known for uploading videos to YouTube telling you that they will make a game containing everything you request for the low price of $15? (Note: The page itself admits the team can't make games at all. But they know people who do, so it'll be okay!)

People have this weird kind of logic error thinking that because if one party in a conflict is to blame, that means the other party is blameless. Yes, the Yogsventures staff are assholes. But that doesn't mean the people who gave them money aren't retards. There were big red warning signs all over the Kickstarter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349234
Do you respond to e-mails from Nigerian princes telling you that with little effort you can get shitloads of cash from them? No? Then why do you believe an online crowdfunding campaign by people best known for uploading videos to YouTube telling you that they will make a game containing everything you request for the low price of $15? (Note: The page itself admits the team can't make games at all. But they know people who do, so it'll be okay!)

People have this weird kind of logic error thinking that if one party in a conflict is to blame, that means the other party is blameless. Yes, the Yogsventures staff are assholes. But that doesn't mean the people who gave them money aren't retards. There were big red warning signs all over the Kickstarter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349303
>However, I do know a fine lady who would be very interested in talking about this with you
But Aaeru has been dead for months. How do I communicate with the dead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349366
So, you're saying KS is like a Nigierian prince whose claims are doubtful? Good to know. I hope a real VN company doesn't KS then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349474
Kickstarter is like an e-mail service. Yogventures is like a Nigerian prince. If the e-mail comes from someone completely unknown and has a shady offer for you, don't give money to the sender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12349729
Then how do you explain this? A well known company gives you a crap game.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/03/double-fine-kickstarter-debacle/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12350137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_Age#Reception
It was eventually released to very positive reception and got enough sales to continue development. If they hadn't been open about their money problems nobody would've batted an eyelid.

That said, landmines exist in either system. Just like you can't predict whether a game will live up to its hype when buying it on day one, you can't predict whether a game will live up to its hype at the start of development. Crowdfunding neither resolves the problem nor does it make it worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12350376
They gave the backers half of the game and almost nothing like what they promised (e.g. a Lucasarts type game). And that's with multiple times the budget that they asked for. At least with a non-Kickstarter game, you can wait until it's out and reviewed before you waste your money.

[Anonymous No.]

Another high-quality translation is upon us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12350376

The problem is that there isn't as much strict contractual terms required to meet project deadlines and such. If a publisher or outside funding is done, the project developers has to adhere to strict deadlines and is motivated to make the product a commercial success at least.

There are so few strings attached with crowdfunding money that it's nearly impossible to provide accountibility for a finished projected. With the amount of low risks involved, it's why many people are hopping on it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12350982
I actually hope this is just because it's a machine translation, since if it isn't it's indicative of a mental disability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12350982
I must be crazy or something but it sounds okay (although a bit stiff and superfluous).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351092
Aside from reading terribly, you didn't notice the missing punctuation and the change of tense mid-sentence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351146
Yeah, I noticed the missing period. Didn't noticed the was/is tense change though. Good eye.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/498206739536171009

Was it written by a /jp/sie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351425
I hope it involved translations and porting engines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351425

Yes

>>12351429

Sadly it's just kouryuu flying out to a canadian con with doddler, then dreaming of sucking his dick to choice lines such as

>More and more intensely Kouryuu enacted his role as a human fleshlight, making lewd slurping sounds as Doddler's cock slowly probed deeper and deeper.
>Kouryuu knew it was coming, in his mind he knew he should pull away, but he couldn't. His lips were moving on their own! They engulfed Doddler's engorded member and instead went as deep as the could, following the yellow brick road all the way to the other end

[Anonymous No.]

>>12351753
This should be an OELVN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12347720
UTF8 is a single byte encoding

[Anonymous No.]

>>12354129
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8