>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch >Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level >Miku is basically a relic of the past, the collaboration with Lady Gaga was actually the last nail in the coffin Are you enjoying this brave new world yet, /jp/?

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Anonymous Tue Aug 5 15:52:29 2014 No.12331588 [Reply] [Original]

>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level
>Miku is basically a relic of the past, the collaboration with Lady Gaga was actually the last nail in the coffin

Are you enjoying this brave new world yet, /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 15:53:05 2014 No.12331589 Yes, all that shit was getting dumb and boring anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 15:54:34 2014 No.12331598 Recline and take it easy, man.

Anonymous Tue Aug 5 15:56:56 2014 No.12331609

Miku will continue to exist as long as people continue to use her to produce music. Touhou will exist as long as ZUN keeps making games (and the secondary scene will continue to exist as long as circles keep making books). Pokemon... they're not going to stop milking that any time soon.

tl;dr who cares

Anonymous Tue Aug 5 15:57:57 2014 No.12331615

>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
???

>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level
lel

>Miku is basically a relic of the past, the collaboration with Lady Gaga was actually the last nail in the coffin
Sad but true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:00:26 2014 No.12331631 >>12331588 Black and White versions were supposed to be the "see you space cowboy" games for older fans so who cares. kankore is getting an anime adaption... miku was never good to begin with

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:01:30 2014 No.12331639 99% of you never gave a shit about Miku anyway, so I don't know you'd complain that she changed from something you don't give a shit about to something irrelevant you still don't give a shit about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:06:12 2014 No.12331654 File: 175 KB, 1920x1200, 1385679208810.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like Luka better anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:06:41 2014 No.12331655 >>12331588 >>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level They will co-exist. ZUN said so. So fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:06:51 2014 No.12331656 I liked Pokemon but gave up after the third generation because it was just the same thing over and over again. Is Youkai Watch worth checking out?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:09:46 2014 No.12331670 >>12331588 >>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level What the fuck are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:11:15 2014 No.12331674 File: 529 KB, 579x1094, Kaze.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12331670 He means nobody likes your shitty series anymore, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:14:14 2014 No.12331682 >>12331674 Kancolle is like, super shit, dude. Touhous have no personality but Kancolles manage to have even less.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:25:55 2014 No.12331742 older Touhous had good music what does Kancolle have? nothing

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:26:32 2014 No.12331747 >>12331742 An active fanbase. :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 16:27:26 2014 No.12331758 >>12331747 REKT E K T

Disability-san Tue Aug 5 22:44:27 2014 No.12333563 [DELETED]

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"In the midst of youth we are in death"
So comes and goes otaku franchides and intersts. We call ourselfves different from the normals, but not even we, /jp/, are uneffected by the hands of time. So why would the things that make us otaku not change as well?

It does. Yet seperate we remain. Let us thrive and drive with coming and going.

For we are but tears...in the rain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:22:23 2014 No.12333676 File: 32 KB, 429x590, 1344884513008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12333563

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:25:27 2014 No.12333683 >>12333563 nice sketch, but why is it backwards

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:28:14 2014 No.12333689 >>12333683 So that you can read it right to left.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:29:28 2014 No.12333694 >>12333689 Wow so subtle

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:34:07 2014 No.12333706 >>12331682 The Touhous are steadily getting personality and there's been emphasis on developing the world of Gensokyo while Kancolle is just stagnating

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:53:54 2014 No.12333755 >>12331588 And there is still no new Gintama.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 23:59:44 2014 No.12333772 >>12331682 2hu's do have personality. Just read things like Forbidden Scrollery, Wild and Horned Hermit, or Oriental Sacred Place

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:01:17 2014 No.12333776 >>12333563 Why do people put so much value in the babbling of a malfunctioning robot?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:02:16 2014 No.12333782 >>12331588 But Youkai Watch 2 just came out, you could as well be saying that every game on the 3DS is eating pokemon's market share. And everything else you said is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:09:50 2014 No.12333807 >>12333755 But there's plenty of shit already.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:14:27 2014 No.12333831 >>12333807 Exactly. There is plenty of shit but no Gintama.

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 00:35:42 2014 No.12333912

>>12331588
>>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch

They will not stop miking it soon.

>>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level

You're joking, right? I don't see an entire floor in the Comiket dedicated just for it every year like they do for Touhou (see Reitaisai).

>>Miku is basically a relic of the past, the collaboration with Lady Gaga was actually the last nail in the coffin

Miku will keep being a thing for as long as people keep using her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 01:02:21 2014 No.12333978 >>12331631 >Black and White versions were supposed to be the "see you space cowboy" games for older fans so who cares. Really? Haven't played it myself but I "heard" it was the "best" game in the series.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 01:04:11 2014 No.12333989 File: 1.19 MB, 900x675, 1404949391499.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] pack it up boys it's all ogre now

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 01:04:56 2014 No.12333992 >>12333978 And you're right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 01:17:05 2014 No.12334039 >>12331631 >Black and White versions were supposed to be the "see you space cowboy" games for older fans so who cares. There were a lot of throwbacks to the first gen in XY though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 05:43:50 2014 No.12334710 Youkai Watch's success has more to do with the anime airing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 05:47:33 2014 No.12334720 kancolle is a fad it will be gone in 2 years but people will still make touhou doujin in 10000 years

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 05:58:47 2014 No.12334754 >>12333772 Kancolles have more personality. They have more printed materials than 2hu and they even have an upcoming anime. Kancolle is also the topdog this Comiket Stay mad, 2hufags

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 06:10:18 2014 No.12334792 Youkai Watch is garbage I'm sick of seeing it

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 06:12:43 2014 No.12334799 >>12334710 I think part of it is also because Pokemon has been taken over by neckbeards and spreadsheets or whatever the Japanese equivalent is. Kids can't win in Pokemon so they go play Youkai Watch instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 06:16:15 2014 No.12334811 youkai what

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 06:25:37 2014 No.12334829 >>12333706 By this metric Kancolle has plenty of time to get depth before we make a fair comparison.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:03:15 2014 No.12334889 >>12334799 >Pokemon has been taken over by neckbeards and spreadsheets Oh god I hate this so much.

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:22:02 2014 No.12334924
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>shit is better than turds
>you have been diagnosed with leukemia but not dementia
>I just passed a watery shit into my pajama bottoms, but it's ok because I can change into another pair

Are you enjoying this brave new /jp/, /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:30:34 2014 No.12334936 File: 1.56 MB, 3057x4097, 61527ceb-1b0d-4f00-b73e-8a83cffeb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12331654 mah nigga!

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:34:04 2014 No.12334947 pokemon is shit touhou is shit vocaloids are shit i hate weeb shit

Mami Kawada Lover Wed Aug 6 07:45:14 2014 No.12334961

>>12331588
>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
Not really. Youkai is gaining tons of popularity in Japan but is nowhere near Pokemon's level of popularity. At least not yet. If anything, they're co-existing since Youkai Watch anime is animated by the same studio as Pokemon, both have connections to CoroCoro, and both have games on the 3DS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:46:29 2014 No.12334963 >>12334961 Welcome to my filter, nerd.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:48:25 2014 No.12334966 >>12334963 >implying we're not all nerds

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:53:48 2014 No.12334978 >>12334966 Who are you quoting, nerd?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 07:54:27 2014 No.12334981 File: 110 KB, 1280x720, 1344298990035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12334966 I'm not a nerd, bitch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 10:49:52 2014 No.12335257 >>12334966 I am not a nerd, I am just shy and lost.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 10:51:58 2014 No.12335260 >>12334936 >>12331654 Does she have any good songs other than the one where she sings around (forget the name lol)

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 13:35:59 2014 No.12335689 File: 1.31 MB, 1366x768, sinnomen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this a Youkai Watch by the way?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 13:49:24 2014 No.12335722 Has anyone here actually played Youkai Watch? Is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 14:13:46 2014 No.12335767 >>12331588 Kancolle is top but Touhou is still the second most popular shit ever. sure, a little less touhou but its still the second most huge otaku thing ever. both can and will coexist

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 14:16:50 2014 No.12335775

>>12331682

the whole point of touhou is that the characters barely had any personality, but the fanbase gave the characters parings, arts and personalities.

its about the fanbase doing whatever the fuck they want with the characters, the more empty they are, the more you can add to them.

the entire scarlet mansion for example, was bland as fuck in the original game, now they are overflowing with character, lore and art, all because the fans pumped it in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 14:31:00 2014 No.12335805 >>12334889 git gud

Anonymous Wed Aug 6 14:58:22 2014 No.12335879

>>12331588
>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
Youkai what?
>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level
No, Touhou was already dead before KanColle boom, why can you people understand this, god.
>>Miku is basically a relic of the past, the collaboration with Lady Gaga was actually the last nail in the coffin
Eh, relic or not, it's still really popular.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 15:01:30 2014 No.12335886 >>12335260 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJET3nFVDg

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 15:02:52 2014 No.12335889 >>12334039 XY tried to sell itself on gen 1 nostalgia. That's why you got a Kanto starter so early.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 15:05:44 2014 No.12335893 >>12334754 >Kancolles have more personality This is what Kancollefags actually believe. >>12334947 Welcome aboard, chap.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 15:07:06 2014 No.12335896 >>12335775 Yeah, pad jokes, Sakuya knifing Meiling, Patchy being madly in love with Marisa, Sakuya lusting for Remilia, and everything involving Flandre. The fans sure did a great job with that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 16:32:35 2014 No.12336087 >>12331588 Who cares Nothing new Artificial whore producing pop gimmick destroyed by a gimmicky whore producing artificial pop.

Disability-san Wed Aug 6 19:26:19 2014 No.12336821 [DELETED]

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>>12333776
Do you mean Miku? Not much, its just part of what formed the early 2000's otaku subculture interest. All this thread is, is, a note in how oldfags are dying out while the otaku world changes. Essentially its a thread on how are youth is slipping away, just the time told story that every generation speaks one form tothe next greator form.

This is all just /jp/ coping with this issue through otaku media.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 19:27:41 2014 No.12336827 >>12334754 >They have more printed materials than 2hu They do? Like what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 23:32:48 2014 No.12337415 >>12336827 A bunch of repeated gags that you can get in doujin works with even higher quality. I like kancolle, but the manga are all trash. The same is almost definitely true for the upcoming anime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 23:36:26 2014 No.12337432 The past two gens of pokemon have been dumb as shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 23:39:13 2014 No.12337446 >>12335893 >This is what Kancollefags actually believe. Please don't lump all Kancollefags in with that retard. >>12335896 You can't judge the entire body of fan work from gag manga.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 6 23:39:18 2014 No.12337448 >>12337415 >I like kancolle Why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:04:06 2014 No.12337531 >>12337448 Because I've invested enough hours into the game to the point where there are characters that I particularly like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:05:17 2014 No.12337533 >>12337531 Why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:06:07 2014 No.12337534 >>12337533 What's your disorder?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:07:04 2014 No.12337536 >>12337534 None, why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:07:13 2014 No.12337537 >>12337533 Because I am easily influenced and will follow the crowd.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:08:55 2014 No.12337540 >>12337537 You should be hating it without reason and regurgitating what you see others post in that case.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:09:54 2014 No.12337542 >>12337448 Not him, but the premise appealed to me because I was a combo WWII nerd and weeaboo and some of the secondary work (videos and comics) drew me in. i still play a few hours a week out of habit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:10:02 2014 No.12337543 >>12337540 >without reason How about it has no gameplay?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:11:13 2014 No.12337547 >>12337543 It has gameplay. Did you not get past the lotto?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:12:34 2014 No.12337552 >>12337547 Yeah, placing ships then clicking go. Great game play.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:13:01 2014 No.12337553 >>12337540 I follow the cool crowd, not the loser crowd.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:13:54 2014 No.12337556 >>12337553 The irony is staggering, but I'm sure you knew that already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:15:57 2014 No.12337560 >>12337552 >placing ships then clicking go. What, do you really play it like that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:16:33 2014 No.12337562 >>12337432 Looks like we got a genwunner over here. How does it feel to be stuck in the ~~~90s kids generation~~~?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:17:25 2014 No.12337565 >>12337560 >play lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:20:28 2014 No.12337575 Mobage and browser games are more like game simulators than games. They give me the illusion that I'm playing a game instead of just pushing the same buttons over and over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:24:10 2014 No.12337583 >>12337565 Is that funny? Weird.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:25:06 2014 No.12337585 >>12337583 Sorry, I have asperger's

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:25:43 2014 No.12337588 >>12337583 Yeah, your stupidity is pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:25:59 2014 No.12337589 >>12337560 I don't see how else you could possibly be playing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:31:45 2014 No.12337605 >>12337588 What's stupid about that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:32:43 2014 No.12337607 yet another thread dies to passive-aggressive autism

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:33:26 2014 No.12337609 >>12337607 Yeah this one was really a keeper

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:34:53 2014 No.12337612 >>12331631 Makes sense. I hated X & Y.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:39:30 2014 No.12337620 When are they going to make a pokemon stadium in the combat style of Ni no Kun?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:43:56 2014 No.12337626 >>12337620 Ninokuni is the worst RPG I have ever played, and I played that one moon saga one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:44:32 2014 No.12337627 >>12337626 Moon saga?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:45:10 2014 No.12337628 >>12337627 Lunar song something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 00:49:46 2014 No.12337636 >>12337628 Lunar: Dragon Song?

Anonymous Thu Aug 7 01:01:46 2014 No.12337676

You guys hate change. Period.
I'm not going to start the shit-flinging fuck-fest by getting into the reasons behind it, but its a fact.

I cannot complain about any of the three besides Kancolle, and that is because the game intentionally excludes non-Japanese IP addresses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 01:03:36 2014 No.12337680 >>12337676 I blame korea

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 02:06:03 2014 No.12337833 >>12337562 >How does it feel to be stuck in the ~~~90s kids generation~~~? Not him but what does that even mean?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 03:08:52 2014 No.12337986 >>12337562 He said the past two gens, "genwunners" usually hate everything after Gen II.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 05:52:47 2014 No.12338271 >>12331588 Everything we love slowly dies. Soon enough /jp/ will be as empty as /po/

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 14:45:04 2014 No.12339820 File: 173 KB, 505x557, 140549670889.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't care about Pokeymans. I just hope to see new Touhou games. I don't care too much about Vocaloid, but would be nice to see some new content.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 15:40:55 2014 No.12340013 >Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch It won't last.

Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:05:10 2014 No.12340069

>>12331588
>>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
??
How the hell? Call me when Youkai Watch reaches any of the other Pokemon games' numbers.
>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level
Oh let me guess, you're one of those dipshits that believed the OPs of those threads claiming Kancolle had beaten Touhou in circles when it was the other way around by far (1910 circles for Touhou compared to Kancolle's 1498)?

Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:07:16 2014 No.12340073

>>12335775
>>12331682
>the whole point of touhou is that the characters barely had any personality
Doesn't seem that way since ZUN gave every single character descriptions and (for the most part) backstories as well as a decade of manga so far which naturally show the characters' personalities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:08:20 2014 No.12340075 >>12334754 >Kancolle is also the topdog this Comiket Nope, not even close.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:09:23 2014 No.12340076 >>12335879 >Touhou was already dead How? Even today it's still the biggest series at Comiket and has its own events like Reitaisai and Kouroumu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:13:45 2014 No.12340083 Why are you responding to every post in the thread?

Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:41:50 2014 No.12340152

>>12331588
>>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
wat

>>12335775
>the whole point of touhou is that the characters barely had any personality, but the fanbase gave the characters parings, arts and personalities.
Same for KanColle, by that token. Akagi's gluttony, Akagi/Kaga pairing for example.

>>12337676
Use cookies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 7 16:53:33 2014 No.12340185 Youkai Watch: Pretty cool idea just poorly executed. The anime is fucking terrible. Nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 10:57:01 2014 No.12343289 as long as there are shmups there is happiness in my life

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 11:21:11 2014 No.12343393 >>12340076 Touhou is not number one anymore, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 11:30:39 2014 No.12343449 >>12340076 Kancolle is beginning to dominate touhou at comiket sorry dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 11:34:58 2014 No.12343470 I love Lady Gaga and I love Vocaloid

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 13:58:23 2014 No.12344067 Wow you are a real shit OP, a shit like I've never seen a shit on /jp/ before. You are a shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 19:12:57 2014 No.12345308 >>12343470 I think Lady Gaga is the best contemporary artist.

Anonymous Fri Aug 8 19:38:16 2014 No.12345391
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Kancolle is a generic browser game that's getting lucky (or artificially hyped). Period.

Just wait until they close it and there'll be something else.
Meanwhile the stuff we actually like will continue to thrive.

Why do we continually have this discussion when the conclusion has been well-known for some time now? My pet theory is that wherever this keeps coming up, it's one or another gang of like twelve or so people replying to each other like an overeager chatbot with a short memory span talking to itself.

also
>Youkai Watch
Sounds interesting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 19:45:54 2014 No.12345420 File: 364 KB, 1024x768, 44927916.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12343449 Just like Rozen Maiden did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 20:08:55 2014 No.12345503 it's so funny how worried everyone is because of that comiket stall number. calm down idiots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 20:10:50 2014 No.12345507 >>12345391 We keep having this discussion because every idiot like yourself wants to chime in despite not knowing what they're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 8 20:15:29 2014 No.12345522 >>12345507 Enlighten me. Because that's what it looks like from outside your crazy little fugue.

Anonymous Sat Aug 9 15:35:26 2014 No.12349861

>>12345522
Not him, but for one, Kancolle is NOT P2W. You can win without paying; you pay only if you want to catch 'em all. And even then you don't need to constantly pump in money.

For another, those trolling are likely Touhou haters, but they're unlikely to be Kancollefags. Most Kancollefags know the flaws of their game inside out (though I see the "flaws" as ultimately beneficial), and thus would not bother to compare Kancolle to Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 9 15:44:08 2014 No.12349898 >>12349861 Most of them are probably warosu dipshits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 10 21:38:59 2014 No.12356760 >>12345503 yeah, if you really want to feel bad about something just remember that probably 90% of the doujins will never be scanned... and don't even start about translated...

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 10 21:57:46 2014 No.12356835 >>12356760 Nice save dude.............

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 11 00:11:24 2014 No.12357273 >>12335775 that hasnt been true for like 6 years now

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 11 11:12:37 2014 No.12359289 >>12357273 Funny, because that's when Touhou's "decline" started.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 11 11:30:20 2014 No.12359329 >>12335775 Fandom only pumps shit into characters tough. That's a fact. 90% of all fanoninterpretations are based on shitty sex fantasies or "epic memes" and ruin the characters

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 11 11:41:22 2014 No.12359364 File: 432 KB, 740x740, 1392596694315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >touhou destroyed by kancolle

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 11 11:45:34 2014 No.12359384 If I've only heard of Youkai Watch from this thread alone, it can't be popular at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 12 18:03:17 2014 No.12364938 File: 630 KB, 200x200, 905.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12334947 Why even >>>/jp/ anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 12 20:19:22 2014 No.12365286 >>12359384 Popular enough to already have its own obsessive haters fearing for Pokemon's demise https://twitter.com/mikotomikotoxy

Anonymous Tue Aug 12 20:39:17 2014 No.12365361

>>12340076
The newer games, characters and written works have been stale as HELL, which were released long before Kancolle came into existence. While it's still "numbuh wun" in Comiket, the popularity has been dropping in the past 2 years, including the attendance rates in Reitaisai, Kouroumu, etc. It's been dying for a while now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 12 20:50:35 2014 No.12365390 I'll believe that Touhou is dead when the games stop being produced and there's not massive amounts of Touhou threads.

Anonymous Tue Aug 12 21:17:04 2014 No.12365485

The only touhou shit I care about is touhou music and it is already starting to come back after the short dip into kancolle most circles made.

They all realized kancolle has next to no music to work off of in comparison to the amount of music the touhou games have so they are all switching back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 12 21:29:11 2014 No.12365523 >>12365485 Can't wait for more boring arranges of the same few songs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 13 00:29:16 2014 No.12366031 >>12365523 Can't wait for more good arranges of the less known songs.

>>	Mami Kawada Lover !aNRFNkpkG. Wed Aug 13 02:40:05 2014 No.12366357 >>12359384 It's pretty popular in Japan already, but still not close to Pokemon's level. Only time will tell if it's Pokemon's heir-apparent or will go the way of Yu-Gi-Oh where it will become popular but not overtake Pokemon.

Anonymous Wed Aug 13 13:30:24 2014 No.12367783

>>12333978
Not really. They are more like reboots for a new generation of players.

A lot of the gen 5 pokemon are more or less proxies for characters from the original games.

>>12335775
I don't want anything to do with any fanbases. Also I think it's just incredibly lazy for a creator to basically make his viewers do the rest of the world building for themselves. It pretty much shows they have no real drive to flesh the characters out themselves so they just leave stuff vague for the others to figure out because they simply cannot be bothered.

Anonymous Wed Aug 13 13:50:43 2014 No.12367843

>>12367783
Said creator is doing quite a bit of world building himself. He's just really lax when it comes to community-created content and the fans use that as an excuse to rewrite character personalities or exaggerate certain traits until they're all that's left of the original.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 14 01:54:46 2014 No.12369955 >>12359384 I heard about it on "Wide na Show". According to it lot of parents were panicking because their kids literally cried for Youkai Watch toys but they were sold out everywhere.

Anonymous Thu Aug 14 06:46:29 2014 No.12370914

>>12331588
>Miku is basically a relic of the past
Is it really? I thought she's doing fine. Maybe the fad has died, but the actual fans are still there, from what I see. Why do people say that, do concerts/games sell worse or what?

>>12337612
I was pretty disappointed, but it wasn't bad, I'm just comparing it to BW2. Pokemon is still evolving.

>>12340152
>Use cookies.
Mine get completely ignored, I have to have a japanese IP every time...

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 14 06:47:27 2014 No.12370917 >>12359329 That's not a good measure, 90% of everything is shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 14 07:00:40 2014 No.12370945 >>12370914 >Mine get completely ignored, I have to have a japanese IP every time Then you are not doing it properly.

Burritoman !/i.isbl0sQ Thu Aug 14 15:32:02 2014 No.12372236
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>>12337833
Genwunners are usually Pokemon fans that just like the first two generations of Pokemon(Red, Blue, Green, Gold, Silver, Crystal). Most Genwunners were little kids playing Blue/Red during the 90's.

Anonymous Thu Aug 14 15:44:31 2014 No.12372276

>>12372236
It's hardly surprising that people would start to lose interest in Pokemon games that came more than a generation or two after their first one, given that the series consists of the same game over and over but with shinier graphics and more Eevee evolutions.

Burritoman !/i.isbl0sQ Thu Aug 14 15:53:02 2014 No.12372300
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>>12372276
all of the Hoenn Fanboys(gen 3) was so,SO dissapointed when they found out that the new game that was coming was a new region and gen. It was bound to have happened sometime that there was going to be a Hoenn remake. There was a Gen 1 remake(FireRed/Leafgreen), a Gen 2 remake(HeartGold/SoulSilver) and a Gen 5 Remake (Black/White 2). Once the Gen 3 Remakes are made, we have to wait for the Gen 4 (Diamond/Pearl) remakes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 15 23:20:17 2014 No.12377802 5 years ago did you envision yourselves spending your 20's debating what's less niche between Touhou and Kancolle?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 15 23:22:50 2014 No.12377808 >>12377802 Yes I was still on /jp/ 5 years ago

Anonymous Fri Aug 15 23:23:43 2014 No.12377811

>>12331588

>Pokemon is seeing its market share eaten away by Youkai Watch
>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level
>Miku is basically a relic of the past, the collaboration with Lady Gaga was actually the last nail in the coffin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfUwMda3iLU

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 16 16:08:11 2014 No.12380419 File: 265 KB, 500x750, up622816.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pokemon is finished

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 16 16:21:02 2014 No.12380460 >>12380419 Bueno

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 17 22:45:13 2014 No.12386175 >>12335260 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC2QrK4c3Qw

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:10:39 2014 No.12386740 >>12335767 >Kancolle is top no it isn't. did you believe that shitposter's fake chart? look it up, Touhou has 500 more circles than Kancolle attending.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:12:45 2014 No.12386747

>>12343393
>>12343449
Touhou is still waaaay ahead of Kancolle at Comiket and has its own events too.
>>12365361
How? The sheer fact that it still has various events of its own with hundreds if not thousands of circle attendees shows it's much more alive than say, Kancolle or Vocaloid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:19:22 2014 No.12386764 >>12380419 So? Maybe it was an off day?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:25:00 2014 No.12386783 pokemon won't die anytime soon MAYBE some marketshare is lost, but only in japan what the fuck is kancolle? touhou still fun anyways, and it'll live on never followed miku anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:26:11 2014 No.12386788 >>12386783 >what the fuck is kancolle? Someone's been living under a rock, I see.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:32:38 2014 No.12386810 >>12386747 Kancolle and Vocaloid also get exclusive events (as do Madoka, Nanoha, and lots of other franchises). I just don't know how big they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 02:57:12 2014 No.12386888 >>12386788 oh i've seen the uberslut with bunny ears before but kancolle just looks like a casual card collecting game to me, i just looked it up now

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 03:46:54 2014 No.12387006 >>12386888 Casuals are unlikely to get far in this game. It's the truNEETs that get far. You can play it casually, but your progress will be extremely slow. It's not P2W, and apparently that's all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:00:19 2014 No.12387036 File: 113 KB, 976x637, 1408348762143.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12386888 >what the fuck is kancolle

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:07:15 2014 No.12387055 >>12387006 yeah, it seems heavy on strategy, and micromanagement you're not in direct control though, that's what i'm saying they're different things >>12387036 i think i've heard of it, but just skimmed over it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:21:55 2014 No.12387092 Kancolle is just RNG. You're a delusional shitter if you think otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:23:02 2014 No.12387097 >>12387092 that's not true at all, before it is an RNG game it is a massive fucking timesink RNG barely even matters

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:23:36 2014 No.12387099 >>12334947 Wow bro I think you got lost.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:27:28 2014 No.12387111 >>12387092 Everyone who plays it hardly denies that fact.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:30:10 2014 No.12387117 >>12387099 Nah mate, I think the delights of paradox and irony are just lost on you. Also why is this thread still here, aside from the fact that the word Kancolle is in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:31:02 2014 No.12387121 >>12387117 it also has touhou and miku in the OP touhou project and vocaloid are both /jp/-related but even if they weren't, the reason you stated would have been enough on its own

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 04:56:12 2014 No.12387202
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>Touhou is utterly destroyed by Kancolle already even at an otaku level

Are you people seriously so fucking retarded or is it just trolling?

Kancolle had 2k circles at Comiket.

Last Reitaisai had 4600+ circles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:00:06 2014 No.12387214 >>12349861 Kancolle is a fucking joke of a game. It's nothing but RNG. It got popular only because of girls designs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:01:20 2014 No.12387218 >>12387214 So exactly like Touhou?

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:04:18 2014 No.12387226

>>12387202
-Has dominated comiket for years.
-On top of having its own dedicated con.

The only people jumping ship to boatsluts is porn artists and companies producing shit for the new otacool craze money.

People infatuated with the lore and characters aren't just gonna abandon it so easily for a completely different genre, and it being a different genre altogether means there isn't really a competition in the first place. Waa waa theres less plotless 10 page doujinshi of Sanae and Flandre taking it up the ass, Touhou is finished!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:06:10 2014 No.12387231 >>12387214 See >>12349861

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:07:13 2014 No.12387232 >>12387214 I'm waiting for someone to make an arena battle game of it. Like that Magical Battle Arena one with the one with Nanoha characters or that Muv Luv Forefront game that got canned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:07:42 2014 No.12387235 >>12387226 seriously, having its own dedicated con is not that big a deal all sorts of shit have their own dedicated conventions

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:14:19 2014 No.12387242 >>12387235 When they have to split it into a smaller sub-con on top of already having its own con because its too big, its kind of a big deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:14:33 2014 No.12387243 >>12387232 TSF Forefront didn't get canned, it's just being delayed, like Otome Function. They'll probably both come out next year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:16:40 2014 No.12387247 >>12387243 Yeah, next year. Of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:19:35 2014 No.12387251 >>12387242 i'm pretty sure kouroumu is just the one in osaka and not "reitaisai overflow" touhou has many conventions besides those two anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:23:58 2014 No.12387257 >>12387235 The thing is Touhou cons are far bigger than any other. And there are many of them. This is the reason why there is less Touhou at Comiket. Not because "2hu ded xD" some retards are spewing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:24:27 2014 No.12387261 Pokemon started to decline after HG/SS anyway. If they are losing market share, that's because they deserve to.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:29:01 2014 No.12387277

>>12387218

Some people actually liked the games. And they had real gameplay.

Kancolle is RNG garbage. Any retard can do anything if he sinks enough time.

Not to mention designs are getting sluttier and sluttier to keep people interested. Kancolle will stay popular for maybe a year more. It's just going to burn out.

They are already running out of ships and events are just pathetic.

And I really liked Kancolle when it first appeared. It seemed like a franchise with much potential.

But then Kadokawa started their retarded milking and pandering. Marriage bullshit was the beginning of the end.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:35:16 2014 No.12387289
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>>12387277
>Not to mention designs are getting sluttier and sluttier to keep people interested.
Only remotely slutty design out of the last ten or so new designs / redesigns is Unryuu.

>They are already running out of ships and events are just pathetic.
Midway is the most well-received event to date.

>Marriage bullshit was the beginning of the end.
Most people got over it a while ago. The game has gotten better since then, so if you thought it wasn't shit then I don't know why you'd think it's shit now.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:38:09 2014 No.12387295

>>12387277
>Some people actually liked the games. And they had real gameplay.
The majority of people who liked Touhou or produced content for it were dirty secondaries, Touhou is pretty bland as far as games go compared to real shmups. The only good part about Touhou was the music as far as the games go.

>Kancolle is RNG garbage. Any retard can do anything if he sinks enough time.
It's a browser game, trying to compare the two is retarded my point is Touhou only got popular because of the girls and secondary content.

>Not to mention designs are getting sluttier and sluttier to keep people interested. Kancolle will stay popular for maybe a year more. It's just going to burn out.
Shimakaze is by far the sluttiest ship still though.

>They are already running out of ships and events are just pathetic.
You have no idea where they'll take the franchise, they've still got the whole rest of the German navy to add and they could add Allied ships too.

>But then Kadokawa started their retarded milking and pandering. Marriage bullshit was the beginning of the end.
Marriage is more just a reason to make the game actually make money, you do realize it's a f2p browser game that's hugely popular with lots of servers but with no actual need to buy anything? You're complaining about a company trying to make profit here, it's pretty retarded. When the end result is more content for the consumer why do you care? You just sound bitter that people aren't drawing your 2hus anymore.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:47:06 2014 No.12387319

While I mostly agree with these 2 points:

>>12387289
>Midway is the most well-received event to date.
As an actual player I can't really agree with that; there's no Shinano or Ibuki which was hyped for the event, so it was pretty disappointing for most of the playerbase.

Still, it wasn't too difficult and the rewards and drops weren't half bad, so it's not like it was poorly-received either.

>>12387295
>Shimakaze is by far the sluttiest ship still though.
Only secondaries think that; not one of her lines in the game is even remotely slutty.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:49:37 2014 No.12387326

>>12387319
>As an actual player I can't really agree with that; there's no Shinano or Ibuki which was hyped for the event, so it was pretty disappointing for most of the playerbase.
Man, I'm like, beyond caring about the prize ships, they'll come eventually. The mechanics are good so I could care less about the rewards - although I guess I'm in a definite minority here.

>Only secondaries think that; not one of her lines in the game is even remotely slutty.
She wears a belt over a thong. It speaks for itself.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 05:55:31 2014 No.12387347

>>12387319
The combine fleet mechanic was the best thing about Midway, mostly destroyers was disappointing and Unryuu needing blueprints and no planes before refit I just found insulting. As for sluttyness I was referring to design wise, I haven't noticed a change at all in the way the lines are. I mean Kisaragi and Kongou are probably still the most "forward" ships in that regard and not any of the newer girls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:07:58 2014 No.12387389 Sugoi! Youkai Watch looks pretty omoshiroi (interesting). Hopefully it'll be rokaraizudo (localized) desu. Peace.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:10:37 2014 No.12387395

>>12387295

They could make a profit in many ways. Like introducing premium accounts with 2x exp and resources. Or extra outfits for ship girls.

Marriage was bullshit and pandering of the worst kind for the lowest low of the otaku crowd.

>You just sound bitter that people aren't drawing your 2hus anymore.

But they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:12:10 2014 No.12387399 >>12387326 >The mechanics are good It's just the usual RNG fest. Nobody cares about gameplay in Kancolle.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:13:23 2014 No.12387400

>>12387395
>Marriage was bullshit and pandering of the worst kind for the lowest low of the otaku crowd.
I have no idea how you can say it's a good idea to introduce a cash shop for EXP boosters and outfits, and then be offended by the rings. I far prefer it this way.

>>12387399
People thought the mechanics for this event were fairly interesting. If you hate RNG on principle I don't see why you would even be playing this game.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:20:06 2014 No.12387408

>>12387326
>>12387347
No one denies the mechanics are good. And if anyone complains about their lack of usable ships, all I can say is: you were warned.

I can't deny Shimakaze's design, but I can't deny her lines either.

>I mean Kisaragi and Kongou are probably still the most "forward" ships in that regard and not any of the newer girls.
They're probably just few and far between. Iku's at least just as forward, and apparently one of the new DDs has yandere tendencies.

>>12387395
>introducing premium accounts with 2x exp and resources
That's a P2W game, faggot.

The outfits are a good idea though.

>>12387399
>It's just the usual RNG fest. Nobody cares about gameplay in Kancolle.
It's game mechanics, not gameplay. Artillery spotting balanced the game by making CAs far more viable than before, and combined fleet was outright fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:45:26 2014 No.12387449 >>12387347 >no planes before refit I don't even think Unryuu ever got to carry anything besides trainers and suicide planes, so it's not like it doesn't make sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 06:59:32 2014 No.12387468 >>12387389 I'm sugoi desu too. I heard youkai mean monsters and spirits in japan. Pikachu is a tiny youkai. There is a lot of youkai in Youkai Watch and that very sugoi.

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 07:00:23 2014 No.12387471

Touhou is a labor of love, coming from one man and built up by devotion from fans. Kancolle is, at its heart, simply an attempt to cash in on the moe craze. It may be growing steadily and have a large and devoted fanbase, but eventually, interest will peter out, and as soon as it stops generating cash, it will be dropped and die.

Personally, I have chosen not to get into Kancolle. First off, it hold little interest for me, but secondly, I do not wish to have my heart broken.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 07:45:57 2014 No.12387568 >>12387449 True, they at least could have included some with the map clear reward for E5 then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 08:20:50 2014 No.12387665 >>12387408 You can buy resources already and this crap is all about resources.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 08:33:45 2014 No.12387708 >>12387665 Hardly anyone does that though. You do that only when you're desperate for resources during an event or if you're a retard who binges on LSC. Because the cost is not worth it. Most people simply do expeditions to stockpile their resources.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 08:45:33 2014 No.12387743 >>12387471 Exactly. KanColle is nothing but a cash drone franchise, it'll die out soon enough at the rate it's going unlike Touhou with a solid foundation of over 17 years

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 08:47:15 2014 No.12387747 >>12387471 >I am talking out my ass

Anonymous Mon Aug 18 09:05:00 2014 No.12387796

>>12387747
It's a prediction, and I think a reasonable one. It's a free-to-play game. It's made to generate cash. That's how it works. If it stops generating cash, it dies. That, too, is how things work. And Kancolle lacks the depth to make it last, so it will die as soon as people get bored of it, its characters, and its themes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 18 13:03:39 2014 No.12388434 >>12387796 So who cares? Touhou will keep going even if the whole fan community dies because ZUN is a trooper, but seeing as at that point almost everybody will not care anymore (or else the community wouldn't be dead), it won't really matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 19 11:56:46 2014 No.12392654 >>12331588 What about magical mirai? And did that lady gaga shit happen yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 19 12:04:33 2014 No.12392676 > Youkai Watch never even heard of it. first of all pokemon is so big in the rest of the world that this small time japanese only game doesn't matter.and because of it name and setting it will never be popular anywhere else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 19 13:38:14 2014 No.12392963 >>12392676 >because of it name and setting it will never be popular anywhere else Just like "Touhou", am I right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 19 14:29:30 2014 No.12393110 >>12392963 Do you really think 2hu is as big as pokemon outside of Japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 19 14:36:33 2014 No.12393124 >>12393110 Touhou has still been pretty big, even outside Japan. With a set up similar to Pokemon, Youkai Watch could be pretty big too. As for the name, they could change it for western audiences maybe. Not that I think it would be an issue anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 19 15:17:10 2014 No.12393264 It would be nice if there was a good alternative to Pokemon. It doesn't need to surpass it, just needs a strong following. Pokemon is too big for its own good sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 20 02:09:11 2014 No.12394913 >>12393264 What kind of alternative? the game? the anime? the idea of collecting? what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 20 17:39:21 2014 No.12397609 >>12394913 I was thinking video games. I know there are other monster games that featuring hunting, collecting, breeding, battling etc but none with the popularity coming near Pokemon's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 21 19:05:09 2014 No.12401888 >>12387471 Christ, some of you act like you've never had any interests before outside Touhou. Why would you expect any franchise to go on forever?

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