Who are the funniest ppl in japan and why are is it matsumoto and hamada ?

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Who are the funniest ppl in japan and why are is it matsumoto and hamada ? Anonymous Mon Sep 15 22:51:06 2014 No.12489332 [Reply] [Original]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 22:59:07 2014 No.12489356 >>12489332 >matsumoto is retiring

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:01:44 2014 No.12489362 Who subs this show?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:08:04 2014 No.12489376 >>12489362 I may be wrong but: http://www.teamgaki.com/

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:22:01 2014 No.12489399 >>12489376 Does anyone sub the non-batsu game parts? I want to know more about this show other than something they do yearly

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:30:42 2014 No.12489417 >>12489356 Source because I'm still in the Nile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 15 23:31:22 2014 No.12489420 >Who are the funniest ppl in japan Dachou Club

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 00:57:07 2014 No.12489529 File: 117 KB, 882x500, 1410807283715.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] apparently your gaijins think its imoto ayako

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:05:02 2014 No.12489541 >>12489529 >Funasshi >芸人

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 01:39:34 2014 No.12489591 >>12489356 >>12489417 People been saying that for the past 2 years. I'd only believe it when I finally hear solid source.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:21:41 2014 No.12489673

Too bad like most kombi who get popular enough, they don't do any actual manzai anymore. Gaki's Free Talk was hilarious stuff with Matsumoto going crazy on random subjects with lots of adlibbing and Hamada being great tsukkomi instead of the weird angry/tennen character he is today.
I think Gaki should disband and Downtown should do something with just the two of them, no matter how awkward it would be for themselves (based on the moments on Waratte wa Ikenai where they are left alone for a while).

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:21:45 2014 No.12489674 >>12489399 The weekly show consists of unfunny tryhard high-tension skits because that's what's hot in Japan right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:25:23 2014 No.12489681 >>12489673 >Gaki's Free Talk I would like to see this. Where can I find it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:34:28 2014 No.12489702 >>12489681 http://crazyontv.com/ has them under Gaki no Tsukai -> Downtown Talk http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpsify

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:39:35 2014 No.12489720

>>12489674

What do you mean by that? Examples?

>>12489673
>with just the two of them, no matter how awkward it would be for themselves (based on the moments on Waratte wa Ikenai where they are left alone for a while).

Why is their relationship so shit?

They see each other on a daily basis for so many decades now,.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:47:00 2014 No.12489733

>>12489720
I'd say it's mostly Matsumoto's personality.
That kind of partnership isn't that rare, though. At least Jamie & Adam and apparently Penn & Teller have a similar situation.

>>12489674
GnT is probably one of the few shows where such skits are done. The program has gone for over 25 years, so making new interesting episodes should be pretty hard. The recent "cry while acting" competition was a good one, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 02:52:41 2014 No.12489741 >>12489733 >I'd say it's mostly Matsumoto's personality. Really? But isn't he the funny easy to get along guy whilst Hamada is the anger management person.

Anonymous Tue Sep 16 03:03:34 2014 No.12489760

>>12489741
No. Hamada is the much more social person. Just the fact that Matsumoto got married 20 years later than Hamada should tell you a lot.

Watching the episode of "Professional" about Matsumoto should give a better idea of his real self.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrppbb

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 03:16:48 2014 No.12489774 >>12489760 Marriage does not equate to being sociable but thats besides the point

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 05:58:19 2014 No.12490099 >>12489332 >extreme overacting/staged reactions and reusing jokes over and over >funnny

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 06:42:46 2014 No.12490177 >>12490099 The Japanese are not funny at all, so any slight humour is immediately the best example of the entire populous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 06:51:35 2014 No.12490188 >>12490177 Ive laughed at some VNs before.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 22:51:08 2014 No.12492244 File: 22 KB, 449x234, img_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12489332 Matsumoto is funny, Hamada isn't. Hamada is a vulgar prick who can't even into tsukkomi. Cream Stew are a lot better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 22:53:58 2014 No.12492251 >>12490099 god bless gintama

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 23:15:21 2014 No.12492286 I like Ariyoshi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyd-WCDELI

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 16 23:43:21 2014 No.12492325 >>12492286 Ariyoshi slaughters old and unfunny comedians and is a pretty cool guy, but isn't really all that funny himself. He's great because he does unexpected shit though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 10:45:21 2014 No.12493618 File: 72 KB, 640x480, yoiko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yoiko!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 11:16:31 2014 No.12493668 >>12490099 >>>/a/

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 12:20:29 2014 No.12493768

>>12492244
Ueda is definitely a lot more skillfull tsukkomi, but Arita isn't that spectacular. Their partnership is in much better shape than Downtown's, though.

>>12492325
What qualifies as "being funny himself"? I'd say his solo talk moments on Matsuko & Ariyoshi are funny enough. It's not like any other popular pin-geinin do purely one-man acts.
I like how he does even low-budget stuff ひろいきの despite being as succesful as he is. I laughed my ass off for the episodes where they teached him tsukkomi and ippatsu gags.

I knew he had gone through a lot of shit during the Denpa Shounen days, but after watching just few minutes of the Eurasia-Europe hitch-hiking trip I already feel bad for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYw42H1F9qw

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 13:28:51 2014 No.12493873

>>12493768
Most famous comedians can be funny enough when given the screen time to shine. What bothers me a bit about Ariyoshi is that he returned to show business by dissing others. He's usually funny by shitting on others. Which can be plenty funny if it's some famous comedian he shits at, but lacks substance once it wears off.

How about Tokui? He's a sick pervert, but he's funny. Shame he's paired up with Fukuda though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 13:39:52 2014 No.12493901 >>12493618 it's not manzai when there are two bokes

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:06:32 2014 No.12493965 File: 29 KB, 721x540, hamaguchi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12493901 Double the fun then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:10:35 2014 No.12493977 >>12493965 Nah, then you get American or British humor, where everyone does/says stupid shit and there's no one the viewer can relate to. No one points it out either.

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:14:34 2014 No.12493986

>>12490177
There can be funny writing in Japanese stuff. But most Japanese comedy is abysmal. You just need a character and a catchphrase + goofy expression you can use over and over and over again and you're Comedy King over there.

I guess "cultural differences" or something but fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:25:57 2014 No.12494013 >>12493977 American and Brit humor is based more on cynicism and observation than characters and shit like Japanese humor. Japanese humor basically seems like something that's 50 years out of date best.

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:30:51 2014 No.12494025

>>12493986
The "comedy kings" you describe (like Moody Katsuyama, Kojima Yoshio and Sugi-chan) get hugely popular for about a year and after that they fade quickly into obscurity.

A much bigger problem in general (in both IRL and anime) are all the lazy tsukkomi. Stating the obvious, explaining things and repeating stuff in an angry voice just isn't funny in 95% of the cases.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:34:34 2014 No.12494038 File: 75 KB, 1280x720, 1408854773534.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12493618 I wonder how long Arino will keep doing Game Center CX, he's been getting noticeably better at games since he started

Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:38:00 2014 No.12494047

One thing people often don't get or misunderstand is that Manzai isn't mainstream.

Even comedians that started out as Manzai don't pull their Manzai skits in normal comedy shows. They only do it for the Manzai tournaments. They do have a bit of a boke/tsukkomi routine, but it's not as stiff and forced as in Manzai.

This only applies to newer comedians though. The older the comedians, the more they rely on routines and ippatsu gags.

tl;dr Don't watch Manzai shit. Watch shows like Shabekuri 007.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 14:59:43 2014 No.12494099 >>12489774 Especially not in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 17 15:09:09 2014 No.12494107 >>12494038 It is still from "average" to "above average".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 03:27:13 2014 No.12499248 >>12494025 Kojima seems to stick around doing almost the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ9xtAKimgs

Anonymous Fri Sep 19 15:33:50 2014 No.12500580
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I truly think Matsumoto is a comedy genius. One of the funniest people in the world.

He's the only guy who seems really dedicated to his work, his love for comedy and his vision of it. You'll rarely seen someone with such a strong artistic perception of comedy. He's really taking this shit seriously. Even if Japan's public isn't font of Konto and more written humor, he'll still do some and show of far he can go in terms of comedy creation, try to go beyond what people except of him.

Rven if R100 is flawed as fuck (especially the ending), there's just something in it, something that makes you go "Well, that can only be Matsumoto and nobody else". And that's what makes him the most outstanding comedian, hell, artist in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 15:35:15 2014 No.12500583 >>12500580 fuck I really should proofread my shit more often

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 16:59:42 2014 No.12503968 batsu stream when :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 17:00:21 2014 No.12503972 >>12503968 rip justin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 17:03:54 2014 No.12503980 >>12503972 /v/ always streamed them on other sites :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 06:25:29 2014 No.12505735 I've lived in Japan for 2 years and speak the language fluently and have no idea how people find the comedy here funny

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 07:05:44 2014 No.12505837 >>12505735 it's because you didn't grow up japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 19:31:23 2014 No.12507969 >>12503972 >>12503968 Ducktoaster is alive and well. Protip: vaughnlive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 19:42:41 2014 No.12507999 >>12505735 I know, right? It's almost like they have different tastes in things. Absurd, of course. Everyone knows the best humor is found in shows like Two and a Half Men!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 20:48:05 2014 No.12508179 >>12503972 i remember justin had the best streams of tons of japanese tv shows. then it just fucking sucked and was just stupid video games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 22:05:29 2014 No.12508442 >>12494038 Doesn't he just pretend to be shit at them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 22:34:24 2014 No.12508513 Who knows 日本エレキテル連合? The comedians with fucked up skits always make me laugh. I still have a place in my heart for Torii Miyuki.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 23:35:31 2014 No.12508635 File: 93 KB, 960x544, 141131996780.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i knew them from this コント

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 01:08:21 2014 No.12508843 >>12505735 I kind of wonder if there are any Japanese comedians who do more western-style humor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 01:25:27 2014 No.12508874 >>12507969 IT'S AS IF A GOD HAVE GRANTED MY WISHES

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:41:27 2014 No.12511547 >>12500580 Who is R100

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:03:17 2014 No.12511605 File: 81 KB, 658x614, yamazaki culprit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12489332 There is somebody.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:09:56 2014 No.12511625 >>12508513 Miyuki makes my dick confused. Even when Okubo is doing the slut thing, i get a semi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:54:37 2014 No.12511779 >>12489332 Japanese have no basic concept of sarcasm therefore no one is funny, stupid maybe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:19:20 2014 No.12511877 >>12508632 Where can i watch a stream of this ep?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:22:53 2014 No.12511886 >>12511605 Jimmy > Tsukitei Hōsei

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:39:27 2014 No.12511916 File: 1.79 MB, 550x300, 1402794012733.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12511886

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:16:54 2014 No.12511998
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>>12511605
I always see Yamazaki/Tsukitei get a lot of hate, but I think he has a good babyface for the role he plays.

Are there any other good rakugo comedians besides him?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:57:14 2014 No.12512711 >>12511547 Matsumoto's latest movie. Debuted at TIFF last year and will be in American theaters this December.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 01:04:21 2014 No.12515977 Tunnels 99 Down Town Cocorico Hosei Egashira 2:50 HG Razor Ramon

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 01:11:39 2014 No.12515993 hamada's an unfunny, annoying cunt. After living in Japan 10 years I've still yet to meet anyone that actually likes Hamada, let alone thinks he's funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 01:14:05 2014 No.12515997 >>12503968 just torrent em all. there's a super torrent floating around somewhere with nearly everything gaki or downtown/cocorico-related on the net. if anything, go to shibatabread's site, the fan forum or one of those and just download shit

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 01:16:30 2014 No.12516006

>>12508442
yep, just like everyone else on tv/youtube/twitch who plays games for living

>>12493986
unfortunately this guy gets it. Japanese comedy is mostly catchphrases and slapstick, but if you find good quality stuff it's good. This is how Downtown got big in the first place, 10-20 years ago Matsumoto was a genius, considering his long, bizarre stories were nearly always made-up on the spot.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 01:19:20 2014 No.12516015

>>12489720
well they went through school together, and stopped doing stand-up comedy together ages ago. Their relationship at this stage is no closer than "just some guy you see at work occasionally" level.

Hell, they've said a heap of times in various batsu games how little they really know each other. Matsumoto doesnt even know Hamada's phone number, for example. Kind of a big deal considering you'd think they'd have to text or call to sort out some stuff for their shows.

They suffer from Yogscast Syndrome. Comedy duo where only 1 guy actually does anything and is funny, and famous for something they did 10 years ago that their fans have long-since forgotten about but their fans and the media just won't let them die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 05:01:05 2014 No.12516552 Just watched latest fripside PV. Is that also part of comedian job or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 12:48:29 2014 No.12517538 Any good site to watch Lincoln vids? Those gaki fan sites don't seem to have them all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 12:55:58 2014 No.12517552 File: 37 KB, 353x500, Egashira.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12515977 >Egashira drove a truck carrying over two tons of supplies over to the affect areas of the flood/nuke meltdown to help people out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 25 01:36:06 2014 No.12520017 WOW WOW WOW WOW WAR TONIGHT

Anonymous Thu Sep 25 17:16:57 2014 No.12522446

>>12516015

What are you blabbering about?

They just elevated their relationship to something even deeper than friendship. Of course they care about each other - Matsumoto was deeply concern about Hamada's health when he broke a leg - they just don't show it/don't think they even need to show it.

You should see GnT Hamada's 50th Birthday Special. Matsumoto bursts into tears when his turn to read his letter comes up.

Anonymous Thu Sep 25 22:27:13 2014 No.12523376

>>12522446
>Matsumoto bursts into tears
He did not. He was so embarrassed that he couldn't read the letter himself and even after Tanaka started reading it, he stopped him after only few lines.
I thought he would have read it on the next 24h batsu games since its trailer showed some emotional reactions of the crew, but it ended up being the VTRs about Yamazaki and Tanaka's kids.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 00:12:32 2014 No.12523667 >>12500580 Gaki is phoned in as hell his talk show hosting and variety programs are ok though. His best work has long passed.

Anonymous Fri Sep 26 02:59:03 2014 No.12524172

>>12522446
Yes, they are more than just friends or family. Nakai (who is close to Matsumoto) said when he'd asked Matusmoto casually one night that who would you want to be with when he's on his deathbed, he'd confessed that's Hamada. When others laughed thinking it was a joke, Matumoto said that it's serious, according to Nakai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 04:24:37 2014 No.12524548 >>12524172 Yeah he wants hamada to be there so he can apologize for a lot of things, according to Matsumoto.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 04:37:16 2014 No.12524607 >>12523376 Papa... tai kikku mfw

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 04:37:42 2014 No.12524610 >>12524548 And he says like that because he's boke. Matsumoto is tsundere anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 14:46:14 2014 No.12526340 where can I download or watch full episodes of Batsu Games?

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