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[Anonymous No.]

How many Space Marine legions would it take to liberate the humans of Gensokyo from their xenos oppressors?

[Anonymous No.]

Alternatively, how much manpower would the Imperium have to invest to just exterminatus the entire place?

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Smelly, mouthbreathing neckbeards have such a strong faith in WH40K that Spess Muhreens will never appear in Gensokyo

[Anonymous No.]

fa/tg/uy here.
A lot of the more powerful youkai in Gensokyo might be able to stand up against the Chaos Gods themselves, and most less powerful youkai could easily decimate the Daemon Princes and other higher servants of Chaos. The Imperium would stand little chance against any sort of unified youkai aggression, let alone the Adeptus Astartes on their own. So to answer your question, it's likely that not even all of the Space Marine Legions, including the Lost Chapters and Traitor Legions, could liberate the Gensokyan humans from youkai tyranny.

Fun fact: Youkai are not to be classified as 'xenos' because they originate from Holy Terra, however they can be classified either as 'mutants' or 'rogue psykers', which are also targeted for purges by institutions such as the Adeptus Astartes, the Holy Orders of the Emperor's Inquisition, and so on.

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>>12890563
>>A lot of the more powerful youkai in Gensokyo might be able to stand up against the Chaos Gods themselves
wrong

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>>12890633
Explain?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that WH40K is a parody of edgy spess settings.

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>>12890633
Nah.
Even fucking Suika could wreck the Chaos Gods, the emperor and everyone else teaming up by herself.

Besides, Raymoo could liberate the humans herself, if she actually cared.

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>>12890389
No need to liberate anything.

Just nuke the entire fucking planet

[Anonymous No.]

could goku beat superman

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>>12891530
Only the movie ones.

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>>12891505
Would you nuke holy terra itself? That's at least triple heresy battle brother. Go report to the chaplain

[Anonymous No.]

more than one hundred million infinity

if draigo was there they would win though

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>>12891693
Nah, Draigo would just graffiti all over Yukari's tits and then vanish into the warp.

Isn't that his shtick? He appears outta nowhere, draws his kid scribbles on a greater daemon's heart and goes back into the warp like nothing happened.

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>>12890563

If youkai were so powerful they wouldn't be rounded up and placed in the fantasy equivalent of an native american reserve.

The only Youkai that have enough fluff around them to justify their uber power is Yuraki, Yuyuko, Eirin, Flandre and the moon bitches, maybe Shinki if she still exists on the current canon.

The rest can be either brought down with sufficient firepower or sheer belief. Which are both things that the IoM are in no short supply.

Since a lot of things in Gensokyo work simply because their inhabitants believe it works, I don't think forces that are high on faith and firepower like the Inquisition or the Bolter Bitches would have much trouble with dealing with minor youkai. The Grey Knights would have some trouble with more powerful youkai. If they lose, there is nothing stopping them from glassing the whole place.

No need for Exterminatus, just a regular tactical orbital lance battery to glass the area.

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>>12891938
>If youkai were so powerful they wouldn't be rounded up and placed in the fantasy equivalent of an native american reserve.
They need Gensokyo is that they fade away when nobody believes in them.
That's exactly what is happening in the outside world and it's also more convenient to be isolated from the outside world.

>The only Youkai that have enough fluff around them to justify their uber power is Yuraki, Yuyuko, Eirin, Flandre and the moon bitches, maybe Shinki if she still exists on the current canon.
You're forgetting Yuuka, Remi, Reimu, Suika and possibly Yuugi.

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>>12891962

>Yuuka

She is powerful just that, but none of her powers is WMD type like the moon bitches or reality warping like Yukari's. She'd put a fight but still sheer firepower and faith can bring her down.

>Remilia

Controlling fate is a nifity thing, but her being a vampire still brings her some weaksauce weakness that can be easily exploited.

>Reimu

Still human, hardly impervious to bolters.

>Suika and Yuugi

Bean loaded bolters! Still, Onis are physical beings and akin to daemons. Too bad the IoM has ammo, tactics and forces specially tailored to deal with those.

>They need Gensokyo is that they fade away when nobody believes in them

Exactly because either humans found out how to either fight, avoid or just plain ignore youkai. It is hard to stop believing in something that appeared in your village and ate your family.

The only ones I can think that would give the IoM some real run for their money would be Yukari thanks to her boundaries powers fucking shit up and Yuyuko, because how the fuck do you kill a ghost that can wish you dead? Maybe exorcism for Yuyuko would work but I think they'd need to find her body first.

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>>12892022
>her some weaksauce weakness
What weakness, being stabbed in the heart?
Most people tend to have that weakness.

>Still human, hardly impervious to bolters.
Fantasy Nature.

>Bean loaded bolters! Still, Onis are physical beings and akin to daemons. Too bad the IoM has ammo, tactics and forces specially tailored to deal with those.
Controlling density operates on a conceptual level. Suika mass mind-controlled people to start parties by increasing the density of people in certain areas.

Nobody knows what Yuugi actually does, nobody can know what she does.

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>>12892039

Crossing water, sunlight, beans, being repelled by fish heads.

Suika's powers can be used to make subtle things like that but fighting people who not only are used but also expect being mind fucked by the things they fight might not go like she wants.

I don't think that fantasy nature can prevent you from physical harm. Besides belief is a two edge blade, if you enemy believes he can kill you in universes like Warhammer40K and Touhou where belief can shape reality, he might be perfectly able to kill you.

There is one thing in common on both WH40K and Touhou verse regarding belief. The amount of people believing in something is directly proportional to that thing's power.

That is why the Aki sisters are such weak goddesses and Kanako had to leave the outside world to settle in Gensokyo to find believers. Gork and Mork are just as powerful as the Chaos goods due the sheer amount of Orks believing in them. The majority of the anti-daemon weaponry in the IoM arsenal work because they have a shitload of people who believe they work.

Since both universes forces are belief based, I'd put my chips on the side with the larger numbers of believers.

I don't know why I'm going full sperg about this on the first place. Besides my love with arguing about anything.

[Anonymous No.]

You autists will argue about anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12890399
>>12891505
>>12891633
fa/tg/uy here again.
An Exterminatus is usually conducted only as a last resort, to prevent any Chaos influence from spreading faster than conventional forces of the Imperium can keep up with. Since Gensokyo is a concealed pocket dimension built to protect youkai, it's highly unlikely that the Imperium would believe they are capable of spreading any time soon. However, if Exterminatus were ordered upon Gensokyo, it would probably be carried out in one of two fashions:
1. A full-out Exterminatus upon the Japanese island only by means of orbital bombardment. The Imperium very rarely uses Exterminatus on vital or valuable worlds within its domain, and not even the most trigger-happy Commander would fathom totally destroying Holy Terra with an Exterminatus order. However, the order could be altered to specify an Exterminatus on only a single region of Terra, namely the Japanese Island.
2. A covert infiltration of Gensokyo by an elite team of Space Marines/Battle Sisters, taking with them a small Plasma Generator which they would plan to overload within the Gensokyan pocket dimension, causing a catastrophic meltdown and a very, VERY explosive detonation. A similar tactic was used on a planet fallen to Chaos, resulting in the planet's destruction a la the Death Star, so a miniature Generator within Gensokyo would probably be sufficient in this scenario.
>>12891938
They weren't 'rounded up', they chose to go to Gensokyo of their own volition because the majority of humans were losing faith in the supernatural, putting more stock in scientific research and technological development.
A youkai is only as strong as the faith that humans have in their existence, and if no humans believe, they not only lose all their powers, but their life force as well. It's a sort "believing in God makes God exist" conundrum, and even considering the low population of humans in Gensokyo, many of the youkai are still incredibly powerful despite this.

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>>12892120
Some of us just have nothing better to do.

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>>12892248

The biggest problem would be getting into Gensokyo in the first place. Nuking outside the boarder wouldn't really do shit. Yukari alone could probably put a dead stop to any small force trying to get in. Or at least know about it instantly. Since the usual warhammer method of getting into pocket dimension is to create a rift and fly though the warp. Which is sketchy as fuck to begin with. Seems almost impossible if you are trying to get into the home turf of the person who can control the rifts perfectly. But there are some broken as fuck psykers, so I wouldn't say it's totally impossible. Lots would die in the process though.

To be fair, if we are putting all of the IoM against Gensokyo, I would give all the Youkai a massive power boost as far as faith/belief is concerned. Since the IoM is so fuck-huge you can easily create cults to worship any one youkai. Or get it straight from the Chaos gods. The synergy between Yamame and Nurgle has to count for something. Or Remilia with Tzeentch.

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>>12892480
PoDD. The science girls got in through a rift.

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>>12892542

People get spirited away from Gensokyo from time to time as well seemingly at random.

But I still maintain that an offensive effort, especially with the methods the IoM uses, would be a too conspicuous to just slip by.

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>>12892542
But they had yuri on their side.

[Anonymous No.]

Canonically, the Touhous are not as strong as autistic say they are.

Meanwhile, warhammer fluff has all kinds of marysue bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

A single UNITED STATES MARINE could easily liberate Gensokyou.

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>>12892611
Not even a marine can take on the dreaded japanese flu on his own.

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>>12892611
Given USA history, it is very highly likely that he would end up shooting himself in the face by accident.

Then the USA president would give a speech about the effectiveness of the troops and how well the occupation is going.

[Anonymous No.]

I need pictures, pictures of Touhou being whores to US rangers (because fuck muhreen, overrated dawgs).

[Anonymous No.]

Forget youkai, exterminate those eldars that live on the moon, as our primarch Neil once showed them.

Seriously, how powerful is Neil Armstrong in Touhou universe?

[Anonymous No.]

more like 40GAY m i rite

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>>12893101
>Neil Armstrong

He's a space youkai.

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>>12893311
sick burn man

that will show those fa/tg/uys

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>>12894607

40K is pretty shit. All the cool kids play Fantasy.

[CIRNO !!TLksChMVeuw No.]

>yfw Cirno is one of the major Chaos gods

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>>12893101
>how powerful is Neil Armstrong in Touhou universe?
He's the Dragon of the moon.

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>>12891738
>Nah, Draigo would just graffiti all over Yukari's tits and then vanish into the warp.
You mean snort warp dust out of Yukari's buttcrack.

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>>12891464
>>12890563
/tg/ here
no

[Anonymous No.]

What's stopping the Touhous from just tipping the space marines over and laughing as they struggle to get back up? Those comically huge pauldrons must make them top-heavy, and I can't imagine them being very mobile with those stumpy limbs. Besides, even if that plan doesn't work, everyone knows that magic beats technology every time.

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>>12900730
>Those comically huge pauldrons must make them top-heavy
Not really.

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>>12900746
Really? Because I reckon there's enough mass in this guy's shoulders for Suika to turn him into a black hole, if it came down to it. He probably wouldn't even be able to see what hit him.

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>>12900847
First of all you forget that those are powered armours (so there is plenty of assistance with weight, because you know, 40k tech), then there's the unreasonably thick leg pieces and they are genetically engineered barely-humans.

Plus most artwork is just that, artwork, pic related. Lots of different interpretations and I wouldn't take the minis at face value either since they constantly screw around with proportions. Just compare the human minis to the SM ones.

There's really no excuse for the dreads though.

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>>12892079

>Paint Yuugi and Suika in green.
>Increase the density of orks.
>Increase the density of DAKA.

I... I have an erection...

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>>12892480

>The synergy between Yamame and Nurgle

B... But she's just a lvl 1 boss, right ?

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>>12890389
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>>12892611
OORAH

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>>12900730
>everyone knows that magic beats technology every time.
Space Marines have magic users.

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>>12904934
Sort of.

There's a difference between sorcery and psykic powers, though a course there's some overlap.

Anyway I don't think any of the loyalist chapters really go for sorcery though I'm no 40k expert.

I guess the use of stuff like incense and relics counts as a kind of "holy" magic though.

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>>12904952
>There's a difference between sorcery and psykic powers
Like what, exactly?

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>>12904934
Sort of.

There's a difference between sorcery and psykic powers, though a course there's some overlap.

Anyway I don't think any of the loyalist chapters really go for sorcery though I'm no 40k expert.

I guess the use of stuff like incense and relics counts as a kind of holy "magic" though.

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>>12904952
Blood Ravens(aka loyalist Thousand Sons) kind of do.

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What about those that are literally immortal, Mokou and Kaguya? Just tie them up and send them into the warp?

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>>12905354
The warp wouldn't do shit for Mokou.
She spent some-odd 900 years completely insane and on a murder rampage, and then got over it.

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>>12900323
>density of warp is set to near zero
gg ez no re

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>>12905354
Kaguya has control over eternity, so she can just make her sanity last forever.

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>>12905354
Eternal rape. Breeding pots for more troopers.

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>>12904965

Sanctioned psykers and space marines with psyker powers aren't a rare thing.

[Fuck me extra hard big poppa No.]

Will ferrel is the only man for me.. if you look like him. Fuck my butt

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>>12905354

Lead them on a murderous rampage from you to Chaos and hope for the best

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SM Only? 5 or 6, assuming all the anti magic specialists come into play, a large-ish amount of losses
About 4 if the Officio Assassinorum is allowed to play, medium losses
All the Imperium can play? Then Grey Knights and Castellan Ursakar E. "Surprise Baneblade" Creed is all you need, no losses.

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>>12917724

Materializing baneblades out of thin air only works rules-wise.

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>>12905652
I am more of the idea that Khorne would fuel the hate they feel for one another, leading to an neverending battle between those immortals.

They will spend the rest of eternity dueling in front of Khorne's throne, a living testament that war is eternal.

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>>12917816

All of that while Tzeenchkari is in full "Fufufu according to keikaku" mode.

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>>12917807
Shhh, let me enjoy the mental image of a scared and confused Yukari crying, only to discover her tears have been replaced with Grey Knights

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>>12917915
Who's that guy in your image?