Touhou Gameplay Thread

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Touhou Gameplay Thread Anonymous Sat Jan 28 18:23:39 2017 No.16484614 [Reply] [Original]

Somehow, bullets and girls must be discussed on the modern jay. So let's go. What's everyone been working on?

Anonymous Sat Jan 28 18:37:34 2017 No.16484682
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For the first time since 2016, I managed to make an addition to my chart by finally beating Yuyuko. That now makes two games cleared on Lunatic.

Well, it was really a train wreck, and I only cleared because my border management was pretty much on point in that run... But, I suppose I made good use of at least something in the game.

my.mixtape.moe/chvcgo.rpy - for th7; just rename it to something sane if you would like to watch it for whatever reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 28 18:47:57 2017 No.16484729 File: 142 KB, 1475x783, progress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stuff

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 28 19:47:00 2017 No.16484957 >>16484729 Marisa>Reimu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 28 19:56:26 2017 No.16484993 File: 26 KB, 500x349, 1473909351010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16484941 What the hell?

Anonymous Sat Jan 28 22:47:02 2017 No.16485620
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So, how hard is this game supposed to be compared to the others? It's been a year since I've started playing it, and I'm soon finally coming to the end with a Makai lunatic 1CC on minimum lives. But I can barely clear the Windows shmups on normal.

Anonymous Sat Jan 28 23:20:58 2017 No.16485728

So lets say I git gud in the current game I'm playing, will my general skill carry over to the next game I play or will it be the same hell of re-learning again ?
Once I can get past Yuyuko's reflowering I'm thinking of starting MoF to break the sameness of just having played PCB for quite a while, that's why I'm asking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 28 23:24:16 2017 No.16485742 >>16485728 Fundamentals carry over somewhat. You still have to learn the stages and get comfortable with the specifics of the game's system again though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 28 23:56:43 2017 No.16485845 File: 75 KB, 414x260, 1309547183911.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16484682 congratz man xd

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 00:37:45 2017 No.16486018 File: 405 KB, 842x720, 1484684013093.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16484614 Cleared MoF on normal with 1cc and cleared IN on normal with only 1 continue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 02:31:36 2017 No.16486388 >2016 + 1 >still playing 2hus

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 06:54:08 2017 No.16487071 >>16486388 Who are you quoting?

Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:07:19 2017 No.16489896
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got back into touhou recently and finally managed to 1cc eosd on lunatic, which makes it my third lunatic after MoF and SA
the run was garbage and full of bombspamming but i'm still happy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:18:58 2017 No.16489943 >>16489896 >9 misses I've never even had 9 lives

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:22:13 2017 No.16489955 >>16489896 I'm sorry I haven't attempted eosd lunatic yet, but if you get the same amount of resources on hard as you do lunatic does that mean you were one miss away from continuing? I think 10 misses is game over on hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:28:28 2017 No.16489981 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuncqzGKmxg What the flying fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:33:52 2017 No.16490001 >>16489955 i had one extra life remaining at the end, so two more misses would've been game over

Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:40:23 2017 No.16490020
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I wish i could get good at stgs. I've been playing touhou for years now and I still struggle on normal. Its a genre of games I will never get good at. I feel filthy secondary because i suck at the games....

Anonymous Sun Jan 29 19:47:49 2017 No.16490049
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>>16490020
Hey. Don't talk about yourself that way. If you're playing the games and trying your hardest, you're not a secondary.

Being a primary/secondary/tertiary is a matter of what you like and what your attitude is, not a direct graph of your skill level.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 20:03:11 2017 No.16490093 File: 20 KB, 236x266, 1398742048046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16489981 Mamizou as EVACANEER DOOM, now that's interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 20:32:09 2017 No.16490182 >>16489943 deathbombs count as misses

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 20:41:09 2017 No.16490228 >>16490020 You don't have to be good at the games to not be a secondary you just have to play them and have an appreciation of touhou canon rather than just liking fan works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 22:32:31 2017 No.16490631 >>16490228 There's a huge difference between playing and not being a secondary. ie. if you can barely 1cc lunatics you are no better than a secondary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 29 22:37:26 2017 No.16490633 >>16490631 post your scores

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 00:20:03 2017 No.16490858 >>16490631 Do not believe what this shitposter says.

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 05:26:14 2017 No.16491522
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>make it up to stage 6 of UFO with 4 extra lives in one go
>lose 3 during the stage itself
Sometimes, shit just doesn't want to get done.

And fuck you, I'll use the quote function however I want. Just deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 05:52:15 2017 No.16491562 >>16489981 Ayyy lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 07:42:50 2017 No.16491851 Goddamnit, lost twice near the end of Byakuren's last card. Fuck this shit, I'm out.

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 09:00:53 2017 No.16492081
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Why do I always choke on Miko?
Is it the dullness of the game that doesn't bring me to dodge correctly? I don't know I swear I had 5 extra lives when the fight started

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 09:37:30 2017 No.16492281
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>>16492081
I found it pretty boring, but after I choked against Miko my first time I took the time to practice it since her boss fight actually has a few patterns I like. This was my life count when I got my first 1cc due to that practice. Youmu probably helped make it not as dull, I adore her shottype in this game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 10:37:45 2017 No.16492498 File: 42 KB, 351x374, scared.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16489981 Why does this exist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 11:55:56 2017 No.16492800 >>16492281 more like a slashtype >>16492081 which cards got you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 12:01:10 2017 No.16492837 >>16492800 I just went into panic™ and bombed pretty much everything but the last one and that one that is really colorful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 12:06:30 2017 No.16492866 >>16492837 There are three colorful ones, and I can't tell you much about two of them. Guse Kanon's pattern is static though, if memory serves. Her initial nonspells with the tiny balls are also static, or at least follow a distinct pattern.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 12:32:05 2017 No.16492989 File: 442 KB, 441x270, 1391255554101.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16484614 >What's everyone been working on? 1cc IN on normal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 12:38:18 2017 No.16493015 >>16492989 It's deceptively harder than what people say. PCB and DDC are arguably easier to 1CC.

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 13:44:29 2017 No.16493299

>>16485620
It's hard to say since they're completely different types of games, really. I don't know how crazy the bullets get in the late game, but aside from that there really isn't any skills that transfer between HRtP and the rest of the series.
It's a hard enough game that I've never gotten very far, but I also didn't really understand much of the game's systems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 13:49:50 2017 No.16493324 For those who played a lot of 15, how consistent is Clownpiece's "Graze Inferno"? In order to slip between the gaps and prepare for the next wave feels pixel and frame perfect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 13:56:41 2017 No.16493349 >>16489981 >that Doremy survival spell ZUN is a kind and merciful god for never pulling shitty stunts like this, holy fuck.

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 14:16:21 2017 No.16493410

>>16493324
I haven't played a ton of 15, but it seems really consistent, have you looked up videos of the spellcard? Even though I understood the nature of the card in my first playthrough, it still gave me incredible amounts of trouble until I watched someone else do it.
Make sure to not graze the each section too long, or they'll be travelling so slowly your screen will get clogged up. Wait long enough for a safe gap to appear, and then stop grazing immediately, go through the gap, and repeat.

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 17:22:03 2017 No.16494262
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There we have it, my first clear in any 2hu ever. I'm feeling like a fucking god but jeez, Yuyuko alone took me 12 lives. At least I can do her practice stage now.
So like, how bad is it for a first ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 17:52:04 2017 No.16494372 >>16494262 Per se there's nothing wrong with it, but in practice "first clear" is used to mean "first 1cc", so the rite of passage is yet ahead for you, anon. Best of luck.

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 18:05:46 2017 No.16494435

>>16494262
>3 continues
I don't mean to crush your spirit, anon, but you have a long way to go. Don't feel too bad, just getting to the point where I could beat the final boss of a game even with continues took a lot of effort for me as well, but you have to get the good ending for it to count.

Like the other anon said, good luck. Stage practice will definitely help you.

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>>16494435
I feel ya. Like I said, Yuyuko alone took me 3 continues, and there are at least 5 misses in that run that I can shave off (3 stupid deaths where I ran into the bullets myself and 2 with me getting too close to Youmu during that nonspell she uses 3 times. The bullets spawned on top of me.)
So yeah, back to work with me.
>>16494372
I see, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 18:27:05 2017 No.16494551 File: 618 KB, 639x479, bam.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I got a real nice blowjob from Koishi after this. Did another ExNN of this as a refresher. After current goals, I'll think of going for 1.050b+.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 18:56:40 2017 No.16494677 >>16484941 Diamond ring with actual player input

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 19:33:18 2017 No.16494818 so... how do you get touhou to play at more than 20 fps on windows 10?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 19:49:39 2017 No.16494864 >>16494818 >windows 10 By uninstalling Win10 and istalling Win7, of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 19:58:45 2017 No.16494889 >>16494864 thanks for the helpful reply i found enbconvertor_dx8_dx9_v0036 and it makes it run well, but not when running though thcrap_brliron for english version

Anonymous Mon Jan 30 20:34:27 2017 No.16495011
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>reinstall windows 7
>make 2hu backup
>forgot that the replay files for the newer games are outside the main game's directory
>lost my replay of DDC lunatic 1cc and half of ISC without items

Quoting my infinite sadness

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 20:38:26 2017 No.16495024 UFO stage 5 on lunatic literally cannot be completed by human means

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 20:44:28 2017 No.16495041 >>16495024 Can confirm, any replays you see to the contrary are just TAS-bots

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 20:50:07 2017 No.16495063 >>16494889 Have you tried vpatches? >>16495011 This is why you upload this stuff on http://replays.gensokyo.org/ and http://threplays.appspot.com/replays respectively. >>16495024 >>16495041 Sanaeanon would think otherwise

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:20:25 2017 No.16495201 >>16495024 LNNN? Or just regular play? Lives?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:35:46 2017 No.16495252 File: 688 KB, 639x480, ss+(2017-01-30+at+08.20.50).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] idk how I captured this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:39:37 2017 No.16495263 >>16495252 >297/807 Is this normal when trying to play Lunatic UFO?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:40:42 2017 No.16495265 >>16495263 It's normal when you practice Byakuren on Lunatic a lot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:43:37 2017 No.16495279 >>16495265 Oh man, not even 50%. I hope the statistic is biased towards early failures and anon got better later on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:48:15 2017 No.16495297 >>16495279 I actually did 100 Good Omens the other day and captured 59 of them, so my rate is definitely 50%+. I have a practice score.dat I use, so that history in the screenshot isn't accurate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 30 21:56:14 2017 No.16495336 >>16495201 Just trying to unlock it for stage practice I think reaching it with 4-5 lives from doing decently on stage 3-4 will be easier than brute forcing it like this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 00:14:31 2017 No.16495752 >>16495063 Sanaeanon is an advanced AI

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 01:17:33 2017 No.16495920 Please someone help me, this can't be possible. http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42400

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 01:18:15 2017 No.16495924 >>16495920 What happened?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 03:32:21 2017 No.16496431 >>16495252 Do you use an external tool to practice? The score and graze seem low at that point in the stage even for stage practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 07:00:45 2017 No.16497071 >>16496431 Yeah, I use Riri's tool. I changed the settings so I could instantly start the stage on Byakuren's first non.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 13:28:30 2017 No.16498149 TH14. Normal, Stage 5, 2 & 2/3 lives, 2&6/8 bombs. Will I make it to the koubito? I seriously fucking hate the Benbens. Bad characters, bad stage, bad fight, bad theme. What the fuck was ZUN drinking when he made this shit? Don't answer that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 18:10:27 2017 No.16499285 >>16498149 Yeah, it's doable. The amanojaku is a cakewalk on anything less than Lunatic.

Anonymous Tue Jan 31 19:49:30 2017 No.16499605

Is UFO the hardest Touhou game to Lunatic 1cc?

Touhou games ranked from hardest to easiest on Lunatic, imo:
Undefined Fantastic Object
Subterranean Animism
Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom
Double Dealing Character
Mountain of Faith
Ten Desires
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Mystic Square
Lotus Land Story
Imperishable Night
Perfect Cherry Blossom

Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 19:58:10 2017 No.16499633 >>16499605 Put LoLK Lunatic at the bottom and I don't care about anything else, literally one attempt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 19:59:39 2017 No.16499637 >>16499633 Who did you use? Did you bombspam to farm graze all the way through?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 20:03:12 2017 No.16499651 >>16499637 I picked Reisen, obviously it's harder as Reimu or Marisa.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 20:03:41 2017 No.16499653 >>16499637 This list might as well be in the easiest circumstance for a 1cc (aside from bugs like MoF MariB). Also PoDD should be high up there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 21:19:08 2017 No.16499946 >>16499605 MoF and SA should be much lower EoSD should be higher UFO is in a different league compared to the rest imo, it's like a full difficulty above Lunatic

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 21:28:34 2017 No.16499977 >>16499946 but ufo lunatic isnt thaaat hard anon, just bomb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 21:31:13 2017 No.16499986 >>16499946 You don't have to be MaZe to realize that ufo lunatic is overrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:12:15 2017 No.16500172 >>16499977 that's like going from hard to lunatic in any other game, sure you can just bomb everything. it's still harder though

Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:49:42 2017 No.16500485

>>16500172
Bombs are cancer. I just 1cc'd IN on Lunatic without capturing even a single spell card of Marisa's, Reisen's and Eirin's. This is in fact the opposite of fun. I'd rather try and capture them even if it isn't "optimal" according to some nerd's definition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:56:59 2017 No.16500514 >>16500485 just do LNB runs then if you're good enough

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 00:06:25 2017 No.16500555 >>16500514 Well, I don't think that is possible for me at least yet. I just try to have a certain proportion of end game spells captured and call it a day. A half is nice. I was just being lazy about FinalA.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:06:56 2017 No.16502176
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Why the fuck ZUN though it was a good idea to reverse the controls? My brain just can't prossess the idea of pressing left and moving right. Fuck Seija.

Do I just practice or do I look my monitor through a mirror?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:08:52 2017 No.16502183 >>16502176 Just practice. I've been playing games that flip your controls since I was a kid, I'm so used to it that Seija didn't give me any trouble, except having to practice her last card a few times since it switches on the fly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:09:45 2017 No.16502185 File: 115 KB, 323x201, 1462216238031.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16502176 You git gud nerd

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:12:21 2017 No.16502196 >>16502176 You press X, just like the rest of DDC. Practice with the broken shots help too, if you play SakuyaA you only have to dodge the final spell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:15:40 2017 No.16502210 >>16502196 >You press X, just like the rest of DDC. But this isn't MoF, SA or LoLK.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:18:46 2017 No.16502220 >>16502196 You'' hit max lives before Kagerou, you get plenty of bombs dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:41:24 2017 No.16502287 >>16502196 If you want to abuse bombs and play with the overpowered shottypes, why even play the game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:52:36 2017 No.16502317 >>16502287 I don't play the game, because it's fucking awful, but it seems to me like everyone here just wants 1cc's, which is easily achieved by using the proper tools.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:59:28 2017 No.16502342 File: 91 KB, 800x600, 1450824575890.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16502317 >I don't play the game, because it's fucking awful

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 10:00:55 2017 No.16502347
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>>16502183
>I've been playing games that flip your controls since I was a kid.0
Well me too, but those were easy games compared to a Touhou stage 5 boss.
I've been playing since EoSD, so I expect the game to control the way I'm used to.
Oh well, back to spell practice.

>>16502210
>SA
>Implying you don't get fucked if you waste all your power.
I know I did since I was using Marisa/Patchouli.

By the way, any tips for her 4th spellcard? Specifically where to focus looking at when dodging.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 10:01:25 2017 No.16502351 >>16502342 DDC has an awful resource system, uninteresting scoring system and imbalanced shottypes. It is not bait.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 10:03:21 2017 No.16502359

>>16502351
The resource system is amazing and rewards you for taking risk without being stupid like UFO.

How is the scoring system any different and every game has unbalanced shottypes. Please stop spilling this nonsense on every thread just because you couldn't git gud/

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 10:18:42 2017 No.16502410

>>16502359
Not much risk when you actually route a stage you know. Resource system gives you like what, 22 lives maybe? Probably more. If you want fairly good balance for shot types, EoSD is a good example. I like how you completely ignored my point about the scoring system, seems to me like you're the one who needs to git gud, or some knowledge at the very least. Dumping everything on Sexybanki and then from that point onward you're playing MoF with suicides, not my cup of tea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 10:19:59 2017 No.16502414 >>16502359 >>16502410 I need to learn how to read though, cause I missed your point about the scoring system (still unknowledgable however).

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>>16502347
>but those were easy games compared to a Touhou stage 5 boss.
Eh. I mean as a whole Touhou is definitely harder than the games I played as a kid, but if you removed the flip aspects of Seija's cards they'd be something you'd find on a Stage 2 boss, maybe Stage 3. This of course only applies to the cards with flip aspects, the ones that don't have the flips are actually hard.

As to the discussion of "just bomb everything," I don't really have fun with that. I want to capture enough spellcards in a run to be able to look back and say "oh hey, I did pretty okay this time." It's why I mark the number of spellcards cleared in runs where said number is particularly high for me. I once did a run in SA where I captured every card in Stages 1-5 sans one of Orin's, I love looking at that run. I think this mentality is part of why my Sakuya-B run of DDC is so hard, though, I keep dying due to my reluctance to bomb, even if Sakuya-B's bomb is almost literally worthless due to its short invincibility frames and it doing zero damage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:01:17 2017 No.16502551 >>16502410 >>16502414 >EoSD is a good example MarisaA tears bosses down like nothing and ReimuA just doesn't work in extra stage. Maybe if you actually played the games you'd realise why most people love DDC.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:55:10 2017 No.16502702

>>16502551
>ReimuA just doesn't work in extra stage.
Wait, do you mean survival?

http://replays.gensokyo.org/replays/th06/th6_udre16.rpy

I am in no way good or even decent, and this is a run I did in one take without bombing, as I forgot that I could bomb.

I think this shot type works fine. Only Q.E.D. is impacted due to inverse scaling with HP, which is just one spell card, and you can still bomb it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:06:58 2017 No.16502728 >>16502702 >I am in no way good or even decent >I forgot that I could bomb Really, really tired of all this false modesty in these comments. "I'm not a WR holder so I'm shit" stop this, you are good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:11:15 2017 No.16502740 File: 114 KB, 753x479, chen2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16502702 >as I forgot that I could bomb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:19:22 2017 No.16502763 >>16502702 Not even you believe that

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:35:53 2017 No.16502823

>>16502728
Okay, but I flail so much there. There are a lot of false reads that I would just barely correct in time, general slow reaction on my part, decisions that look way suboptimal, and I failed a few easy inputs in calm situations (hence the deaths, all but the final one unrelated to the shot type). Sharing this was mentally difficult, honestly.

>>16502763
Sure it feels a bit pointless to use when every other shot type is better, but spending like 15% longer on spell cards isn't really anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:38:43 2017 No.16502833 >>16502823 15% in a fast paced game like Touhou is a lot of time. You shouldn't let nostalgia get in the way when we're judging the games objectively instead of hating anything new.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:53:30 2017 No.16502893 >>16502833 That's a good point. I was objecting to the "does not work" part--because it works, and with a pretty goofy execution. My concern was that the newbies that might read that should not get the wrong idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:56:33 2017 No.16502905 >>16502833 How is this nostalgia based in any way, may I ask?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:01:54 2017 No.16502919 >>16502905 EoSD is always rated high because of nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:04:47 2017 No.16502929 >>16502919 Cant be because it's a rather good game, nah. This nostalgia meme needs to die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:07:14 2017 No.16502935 >>16502929 Even MS, a PC-98 game was better. The game and its cast are disgustingly overrated and it's clearly shown in every single doujin and game list.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:08:52 2017 No.16502942 >>16502935 >Even MS, a PC-98 game was better. That sounds like nostalgia

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:11:55 2017 No.16502953 >>16502935 Just because its "overrated" doesnt mean it's bad, I don't know where this stigma came from. Also imo MS is nowhere close to EoSD, due to many glaring issues in MS/pc-98 in general.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:14:08 2017 No.16502956 >>16502953 >many glaring issues Like?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:20:49 2017 No.16502979

>>16502956

-Input delay
-Color palette of stage 4
-The stage 4 itself (Enemies coming from behind yeah cool)
-Shinki bug
-Rank being really nasty, tho I may be mixing it up with LLS
-Flashing backgrounds on the Extra stage fight
-Enemies firing random shots.

They seem nitpicky but they stop me from playing the game further from a lunatic 1cc.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:23:20 2017 No.16502987

>>16502979
>-Input delay
Just like EoSD

>The stage 4 itself (Enemies coming from behind yeah cool)

So I take you don't play many shmups

>Shinki bug
>Rank being really nasty
?

>Flashing backgrounds on the Extra stage fight
Never bothered me

>Enemies firing random shots
EoSD is full of random shit, I don't see why you're complaining

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:34:02 2017 No.16503027

>>16502987
>Just like EoSD
Except you can fix this in EoSD, in PC98, you can't.

>So I take you don't play many shmups
Correct.

>?
Theres a bug on Shinki that will kill you before the fight starts.

>EoSD is full of random shit
Except the random shit in EoSD is fun, getting pointblanked by a stage enemy in MS isnt very fun now is it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:34:24 2017 No.16503029 >>16502987 Vpatch eliminates EoSD input lag bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:35:49 2017 No.16503035 >>16503029 Playing on a real PC-98 eliminates input lag bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:36:52 2017 No.16503039 >>16503027 >random shit in EoSD is fun, getting pointblanked by a stage enemy in MS isnt very fun now is it. Literally git gud

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:38:33 2017 No.16503044 >>16503039 Damn, you got me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:39:49 2017 No.16503049 PCB is the best Touhou game. If you don't agree with me you need to get good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:41:22 2017 No.16503052 File: 39 KB, 156x196, 1485476012979.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Grow up

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:09:40 2017 No.16503265

>>16502551
Most people love DDC, who exactly? I can only think of one player who thinks DDC is good.

So lets see here, EoSD has one bad shot, ReimuA, she's bad compared to the other shots in every shape and form, both survival and score, and the homing doesn't even help on stages. Other shots are good.

At this point it's clear you're a survival player, so think about the good survival shots in DDC, there's ReimuA, SakuyaA and... oh, guess that was it. You could add MarisaB to the list if you want to, since she has a strong shot (but still forward focus which is a no-no for lunatic) and a bomb that gives you 30 free lives with no effort. Brilliant resource system.

Bad shots are ReimuB, no damage because the fucking options don't even hit. MarisaA has good damage but only up close, which doesn't even work very well in lunatic because the game bullies forward focus, high damage bomb atleast. SakuyaB doesn't even need to be explained. B shots also get Not-Benben who is even worse on loony.

Am I the only one in thinking homing shots being far stronger than forward focus is a bad thing? Guess so.

tl;dr DDC is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:18:26 2017 No.16503288 >>16503265 At least homing shots get to shine for once.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:20:53 2017 No.16503294 >>16503288 I don't see how that's a good thing, but I think homing shots were fine before as they usually helped on stages but suffered on bosses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:22:56 2017 No.16503301 LoLK is the best Touhou game. If you don't agree with me you need to get good.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:25:29 2017 No.16503310

>>16503265
>forward focus which is a no-no for lunatic
Again, git gud

>a bomb that gives you 30 free lives with no effort
yeah dude I love pressing X and getting 30 lives
Pro-tip: Unlike the extra video that you watched to poorly judge this shottype, you actually need to know where to bomb in order to actuall get resources

SakuyaB and ReimeB are perfectly usable.

>Am I the only one in thinking homing shots being far stronger than forward focus is a bad thing?

ReimuA and SakuyaA are you not your typical homing shots, you actually need to get up close and personal and tap focus in order to deal actual damage.

It's actually pretty interesting and much more fun and has more depht than holding down the shot button with muh forward shottype

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:26:49 2017 No.16503313 >>16503310 post scores bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:29:50 2017 No.16503324 >>16503313 No, game design has nothing to do with score grinding

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:30:56 2017 No.16503329 SoEW is the best Touhou game. If you don't agree with me you need to get good.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:36:38 2017 No.16503353

>>16503324
If you tell others to git gud maybe you should back it up with something.

Here's a tip to knowing if you will gain lives from bombing as MarisaB. If there are lots of bullets on the screen and not a spellcard, the answer is yes.

Took me a few days of intense theorycrafting to come up with it, hope it helps!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:38:21 2017 No.16503356 >>16503353 Post your WR bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:44:04 2017 No.16503375 >>16503353 That's not how it works tho, next time try playing the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:44:13 2017 No.16503376 >>16503356 I have a WR in not telling people to git gud.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:45:11 2017 No.16503378 >>16503376 I have a WR in calling out shitposters who don't actually play the games

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:45:31 2017 No.16503383 >>16503375 But that's how I got 25 lives for a blind 1cc? :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:46:32 2017 No.16503389 >>16503383 You sound really assblasted dude, also easy mode doesn't count.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:54:31 2017 No.16503418 >>16503389 you can blind 1cc by knowing how the bomb works and not getting memed by the loss of i-frames while bomb is out. Also MarisaB's bomb is less effective on Easy than it is on Lunatic. You'd know if you played the games :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:59:38 2017 No.16503439 File: 1.96 MB, 1280x960, very difficult game actually.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503378 You're right actually, I have one hour of play but it's apparently enough to realize the flaws of the game with insanely sloppy play.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:07:21 2017 No.16503463 File: 15 KB, 259x215, 1472180641173.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503310 >SakuyaB [is] perfectly usable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:11:00 2017 No.16503474 File: 156 KB, 312x332, mokou.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503310 >implying ddc isnt one of the easiest games to 1cc, especially lunatic wise >implying it isnt one of the worst games in the series

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:22:14 2017 No.16503512 >>16503439 >1 hour is enough >>16503463 It is, just because you suck doesn't mean the shottype is unusable. >>16503474 Who are you quoting newfag?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:25:12 2017 No.16503530 >>16503512 I'd hate to know what kind of playtime you have with this lack of knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:26:07 2017 No.16503536 File: 231 KB, 1400x1400, 1483223643253.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503512 Makes me wonder if you even play video games

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:26:40 2017 No.16503540
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DDC is one of the best games, I don't get the hateboner of that autist.

The resource system is non-intrusive and very intuitive.

The Music is amazing.

The cast is colorful and fun.

The shottypes are very interesting and different from each other.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:28:01 2017 No.16503546 File: 16 KB, 600x600, ebin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503530 >>16503536 Not an argument

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:28:43 2017 No.16503547 File: 28 KB, 170x170, 1485119006842.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503512 1 hour is enough. Sakuya B is fucking thrash and you perfectly know it. >who are you quoting You have never played a touhou game in your entire life, have you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:29:03 2017 No.16503550 >>16503540 >the shottypes are very interesting and different from eachother they all have the same unfocused shot and the only decent shots are homing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:29:04 2017 No.16503551 >>16503546 >Not an argument But it's the only thing you've posted?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:30:07 2017 No.16503556

For people who are good at the games, how quickly did your general dodging skills improve? For example, how long did it take you to go from general lunatic 1cc to LNB?
Take a card like Greatest Treasure, for example, was there a time when reading and dodging it accurately was impossible to do reliably, but you are now able to do so? This is bothering me because "general dodging" seems like such a difficult and non-specific thing to improve on

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:30:48 2017 No.16503562

>>16503547
How can you even pretend that 1 hour, 1(ONE) Hour is enough to judge a game objectively!?

>You have never played a touhou game in your entire life, have you?
Have you!? You just admitted that you didn't even play 1 fucking hour of the game and yet you come here with a stupid /jojo/ reaction pictures

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:31:44 2017 No.16503565 >>16503562 Jesus, you sound too mad

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:31:53 2017 No.16503567 >>16503556 Took me a while, I'd estimate maybe 100 hours? Honestly general dodging improves on it's own imo desu famalamadingdong

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:31:56 2017 No.16503568 >>16503551 I've posted valid arguments that you conveniently ignore. The only things you've posted so far are smug 2hus and "lol u never played the games cuz I said so"

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:32:30 2017 No.16503572 >>16503556 took me like 2-3 months after getting my first lunatic 1cc to get an LNB there was a point where everything somehow felt easier, GT included. Just keep practicing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:33:00 2017 No.16503575 >>16503565 see >>16503546

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:33:40 2017 No.16503577 >>16503562 the point is, he 1cced lunatic within 1 hour of play, as you can see by the "1" in the "times cleared" category

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:33:55 2017 No.16503581 >>16503575 Oh yeah I forgot about it Thanks buddy

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:34:02 2017 No.16503583 >>16503550 >they all have the same unfocused shot Umm, no they don't. Am I getting baited again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:34:17 2017 No.16503584 >>16503568 I brought up valid arguments about every shot and instead you just said "the shot is good but you are not". Very solid. I haven't posted a single 2hu btw.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:34:36 2017 No.16503586
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>>16503562
I played SoEW for 30 hours, and DDC for maybe 4. I think they're both terrible games

Pic related is by just pressing the X button with enemies on screen, lots of lives.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:35:07 2017 No.16503588 >>16503577 I can also download a replay and pretend to be retarded anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:36:10 2017 No.16503598 >>16503584 >I brought up valid arguments about every shot Where? All I've heard so far is "this shot sux cuz it's not broken" Very solid. Sure you didn't

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:36:12 2017 No.16503600 >>16503567 >>16503572 you guys are a lot better than I am clearly, I've been busy trying to just 1cc UFO on lunatic and its certainly going to take ages. I wonder if practicing will help me become good enough for LNB at his point

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:37:14 2017 No.16503605 >>16503265 >>16503598 ur welcs

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:37:39 2017 No.16503611 >>16503600 Sure it will, you can never get enough practice. As long as you keep playing you can reach your goal

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:37:41 2017 No.16503612 >>16503586 Am I supposed to be impressed by 6 lives and no bombs on stage 4? Jesus and and then you complain when I tell you to git gud.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:37:49 2017 No.16503614 >>16503600 UFO lunatic 1cc was tough for me, use SpoilerAL for boss practice my dude

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:38:44 2017 No.16503618 >>16503605 >>16503310 ur welcs too dood

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:39:40 2017 No.16503621 >>16503598 nigga, show a replay with a sakuya b 1cc. the shot is only for scoring and is trash for survival, its a waste of time to use a shit shot to clear a shit game when theres better choices to clear it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:39:57 2017 No.16503625 >>16503540 I think it's just one autist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:40:29 2017 No.16503629 >>16503612 I dont think I ever complained when you said "git gud" considering how simple it is to 1cc the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:42:09 2017 No.16503635 >>16503629 It's no different than the other games unless you abuse MarisaB

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:43:11 2017 No.16503640 >>16503621 >shit shot shit game shit shit This is (You)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:44:20 2017 No.16503647 >>16503612 Maybe you should show something impressive already, since all you do is rant about how bad everyone is.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:45:18 2017 No.16503652

>>16503635
Except it is different than everything else, barring LoLK.
SoEW is Score
LLS is Score
MS is Point items
EoSD is score
PCB is point items
IN is point items
MoF is score
SA is not dying at bosses
UFO is routing and summoning UFO's well
TD is routing stages and trance
DDC is bombing for items/poc
LoLK is bombing for graze/graze

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:45:27 2017 No.16503654 >>16503640 okay well, its not shit, that would be TD id say its the 2nd worst of the touhou games that actually matter (aka windows)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:46:05 2017 No.16503657 >>16503647 Why should I show you anything when all you is complain about the game like a sperging autist? Every single fucking reply from you is "post scoars" as if any of that shit had somethign to do with the game itself

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:46:37 2017 No.16503660 >>16503657 But you never talk about the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:48:11 2017 No.16503674 >>16503652 What does that shitty made up list have to do with 1CCs? Are you stupid? >>16503654 What do you think of LoLK and MoF? >>16503660 I do, you just ignore every single post and go "post scoars" like an insercure fag

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:48:11 2017 No.16503675 >>16503657 >scores dont have anything to do with the game itself nice bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:48:22 2017 No.16503678 >>16503657 You should probably suck up the fact that you will always be shit, and only post on anon boards and pretend you actually know anything you're on about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:49:13 2017 No.16503688 >>16503675 alright then Everyone should post scores, the one with the higher scores will be the voice of reason and should not be questioned at all over his opinion on game design

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:49:23 2017 No.16503689 >>16503674 >getting lives has nothing to do with 1cc's nigga what, do you proofread your posts

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:49:29 2017 No.16503690 >>16503674 Lolk is also low, MoF is good

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:49:54 2017 No.16503692 >>16503657 What's so difficult about posting your replays, provided they exist and you have them? It takes so little effort, and you get to trample on your opponent with very, very hard evidence of your superiority.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:50:43 2017 No.16503694 >>16503688 well, i mean, they technically would know more about the game mechanics and how good they are compared to other games than you

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:50:50 2017 No.16503696 >>16503678 How about you fucking kill yourself for pretending to be better than anyone here? >>16503692 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE GAME ITSELF, NOT HOW GOOD YOU ARE HAVE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:51:52 2017 No.16503700 >>16503689 We were talking about 1CCs and then you start listing scores, like what the fuck man where is your context?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:52:18 2017 No.16503707 >>16503696 The caps is on the left side of the keyboard, above shift and below tab.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:52:26 2017 No.16503710 >>16503696 >getting this mad Aw is the poor baby mad we made fun of his favorite game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:52:36 2017 No.16503713 File: 45 KB, 347x175, 1475811468336.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503696 clam down friend, you can get that easy 1cc i know you can

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:53:33 2017 No.16503718 >>16503700 That list showed what the mechanics are that give lives in each game, moron

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:53:40 2017 No.16503719 >>16503700 Because that's how you earn extra lives, you'd know what I was talking about if you played games

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:55:34 2017 No.16503722 >>16503694 That's a fallacy >>16503718 >>16503719 And what does that have to do with DDC being "easier"? >>16503710 Kill yourself >>16503713 What?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:57:18 2017 No.16503726 >>16503722 Because it has the most resources out of any game except LoLK, which also happens to be the easiest lunatic 1cc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:57:58 2017 No.16503728 >>16503726 The amount of resources depends on how well you play.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:58:21 2017 No.16503729 >>16503722 Games get easier with more lives.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:58:59 2017 No.16503731

>>16503722
okay, heres an example

ddc lunatic was my 2nd lunatic 1cc, and it took almost no effort

I capped literally not a single spell after stage 2, and cleared with a few lives in stock as well. you can bomb through pretty much the entire game and get a clear with no skill at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 16:59:36 2017 No.16503733 >>16503729 A score based resource system is way easier because you don't even have to worry about anything else outside not getting hit and grazing At least in DDC you actually need to do something

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:00:39 2017 No.16503737 >>16503731 I believe you anon :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:00:54 2017 No.16503738 >>16503733 yeah, but do they need to suck your dick just for going up to the point of collection? far too many resources, its a baby game

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:01:07 2017 No.16503740 >>16503728 Yes, but you get like 15 lives with beginner level play and bombing for 2.0's, with good play you suddenly find yourself with max resources entering s3 midboss with a reimu shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:01:16 2017 No.16503742 >>16503733 >something 3 bombs bomb for life piece you get 3 life pieces extend Yeah seems hard

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:01:41 2017 No.16503746 >>16503738 >just for going up to the point of collection That's not how it works you fucking shitposter PLAY THE GAME

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:02:56 2017 No.16503751

>>16503696
Okay. I read the previous conversation a bit and I'm basically gathering that the other anon is saying that he doesn't like DDC, and to illustrate his point, he posts how easy it is to gain a lot of lives by stage 3 by pressing X whenever it looked lucrative to do so, which worked for him spectacularly.

Further up he talks about the uselessness of the available shot types, and again about the difficulty too easy and the game being easily routed into safety, both of which are things that are not to his liking.

It looks like you cannot easily convince him about the difficulty, because he has had a real experience with the game and cannot be convinced of bullshit. Neither can you change his opinion on the shot types for the same reasons.

He told you to post something of yours since he was exasperated with your arguing style, I suppose. You made it look like it was about showing off instead of finding out the truth. Or something. Didn't read into it too much.

So... just shrug it off? Who cares what some guy thinks, really. Just keep playing the game if you enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:03:00 2017 No.16503752 Ironically the people in this thread who tell people to play the game have showed little to no experience about DDC. Cute.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:03:20 2017 No.16503754 >>16503737 its okay, you dont have to believe me. but your game is still shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:03:20 2017 No.16503755 >>16503740 With good play you find yourself doing bombless Lunatic runs on most games >>16503742 Wanna know what's harder? Doing nothing at all and getting lives for playing the stupid game

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:05:13 2017 No.16503762 >>16503751 As the person who (originally) talked bad of DDC, you're way too fucking level-headed for this thread. Good on you.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:06:06 2017 No.16503769

>>16503754
>Your game
I refuse to believe this person is not baiting or unironically retarded

>>16503751
At this point it's not just guy, maybe the second one just wants to make me mad. But I'll still stand strong and defend what I believe is a great game.
Is it flawed? Yes, no game is perfect, but I believe this game is really good and doesn't deserve this kind of blind hate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:06:34 2017 No.16503771 >>16503746 I've already 1cced lunatic, no point in replaying Well, i suppose its not as simple as that, but its not much harder either. You get like 3 2.0s in the beginning of stage 3 before midboss with no effort required

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:07:25 2017 No.16503777 >>16503771 see >>16503755

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:09:28 2017 No.16503783 >>16503777 nice trips also, what do you mean by this? If you meant the bombless part, you dont need to bomb for those 2.0s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:10:20 2017 No.16503787 >>16503783 I meant that it's still harder than having a score based resource system where you do nothing special to get lives.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:12:18 2017 No.16503793 >>16503787 these score based systems give you only 6 lives max. whereas these bomb when theres a lot of items on the screen systems for ~16+

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:12:52 2017 No.16503795 >>16503787 Well yeah, but in eosd you get 8 lives only, as well as in mof. So theyre worth quite a lot more than DDCs 16+ lives that you can get.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:13:21 2017 No.16503798 >>16503793 >>16503795 see >>16503728

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:13:41 2017 No.16503802 >>16503787 To clear up any misunderstandings, the resource system itself is not too bad, but the AMOUNT is dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:14:06 2017 No.16503803 File: 325 KB, 609x700, __horikawa_raiko_touhou_drawn_by_makuwauri__aaaa5323da2d99ccf8dde0782b717df1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is a nice thread. We should bully DDC more often.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:14:19 2017 No.16503805 File: 834 KB, 256x256, 1484874115947.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like how everybody are shittalking each other but only thing posted from DDC here is a guy with 1 hour of playtime. Truly makes all these arguments and facts rock solid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:14:45 2017 No.16503807 >>16503798 no, you dont need to play well to know "Hey theres a lot of items, maybe I should bomb here for a life piece" you just need a brain

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:15:52 2017 No.16503812 >>16503798 16+, the bare minimum of lives you should get from that game is around 16. I'd say if youre good you could get 20.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:15:54 2017 No.16503813 >>16503807 Are you implying that going to the PoC every single time you see a bunch of items is too easy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:16:17 2017 No.16503814 >>16503805 It was a very long hour of my life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:17:36 2017 No.16503816 Then what about LoLK? I don't see anyone complaining about the stupid amount of lives you can get

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:17:57 2017 No.16503819 >>16503813 Im implying pressing the X button for a life piece is rather easy. If you're doing it without bombs then its fine, the game just gives a little too many lives in my eyes if you route it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:18:18 2017 No.16503821 >>16503816 LoLK is even worse, don't get me started, but the topic was DDC.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:18:45 2017 No.16503822 >>16503819 It's not always a life piece so that's no exactly true.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:19:04 2017 No.16503824 File: 150 KB, 960x720, deedeecee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16503805

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:20:17 2017 No.16503830 >>16503822 Its not always a life piece, but you can route it to an extent where you just get shekellions of lives. But at least its not LoLK, ill give ddc that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:20:25 2017 No.16503832 >>16503821 Do people here even Like Touhou games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:22:49 2017 No.16503841 >>16503832 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:23:05 2017 No.16503843 >>16503832 No, I just play it because I'm fucking masochistic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:23:05 2017 No.16503844 >>16503841 explains a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:23:35 2017 No.16503846 >>16503832 Pretty sure people here doesn't like Touhou at all.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:23:43 2017 No.16503847

>>16503769
>At this point it's not just guy, maybe the second one just wants to make me mad.

Well, on the whole, I think it would be fair to say that the Western Touhou community has a proportionally large amount of, let's say people that are mentally unstable and/or have crude, oblivious manners that renders them misfits in real life. I'm not saying it has to be that way with everyone or even most people, but it's pretty common to run into this.

So it just tends to be like that pretty often, and it's hard to have level-headed discussion sometimes. All I can suggest is detaching yourself to consider more angles to the problem, e.g. analyse what the other party really IS saying, and shoot his arguments down with precision instead of "sperging" out and about about things that others don't directly understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:26:04 2017 No.16503856 >>16503769 >doesnt deserve this kind of blind hate >most of us have more experience with it than you

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:26:24 2017 No.16503858 >>16503856 Not true tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:26:28 2017 No.16503859 >>16503847 I do agree the touhou community is shit. Not to mention it all gets worse when you post as anon.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:30:32 2017 No.16503876
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>>16503512
Sakuya-B has great scoring potential, but if we're talking purely survival (and I think we are from context) Sakuya-B is irredeemable.

She has poor range.
She has poor damage.
Her bomb is short and also does zero damage.

There is nothing she excels at unless you're playing for score.

The only way you could call her "perfectly useable" is if your definition of useable is just "it is not literally impossible to clear the game with this shottype."

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:32:11 2017 No.16503884 >>16503876 The same person calls ReimuA in EoSD unusable for extra stage so I find it very hypocritical.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:32:43 2017 No.16503887 >>16503876 Do you know the difference between "usable" and "good"? >>16503884 >the same person This is not true and also very pathetic

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:34:23 2017 No.16503891 >>16503887 Are there any shottypes in Touhou that you would say are NOT useable? Sakuya-B is the worst shottype I have ever used, though admittedly I haven't used any of the IN solo shottype, I've been told some of those are awful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:34:49 2017 No.16503894 >>16503887 Shot balance was the topic no? I don't see how any shot is even remotely comparable to RA/SA in DDC. The other shots are usable yeah, but they're fucking ass.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:38:25 2017 No.16503916

>>16503894
>Shot balance was the topic no?
Nice try moving the goal post

They're harder to use, but I wouldn't call something like ReimuB, Marisa B or A "ass"

>>16503891
If you can complete the game without having to do anything special, then the shottype works.
It can be weak or weird to use but it's still perfectly playable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:41:23 2017 No.16503937 >>16503916 They're ass because the other options are so much better, so there's no point in using them.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:42:39 2017 No.16503945

If DDC and LOLK are "too easy" why not just play them without exploiting the system to give yourself ridiculous amounts of lives? It's not like you have to play in the "optimal" way, technically the "optimal" way to complete a touhou game would be to just TAS it. Play in a way that makes the game as difficult as you want it to be, it's not as if the game forces you to have far too many lives. For example just try to beat it without bombing, or use the worse shot types.

Like, isn't surmounting a challenge and getting enjoyment out of it the entire point of playing touhou games (along with the lore stuff)? Why make things too easy for yourself and then complain as if that wasn't due to your own decision on how to play the game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:42:55 2017 No.16503947 >>16503937 Story purpose. Duh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:43:28 2017 No.16503952 >>16503947 hehe xd

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:43:47 2017 No.16503954 >>16503937 >here's no point in using them. You just said that SakuyaB is good for scoring. Marisa is good is you want to deal good damage up close or if you just wanna play a foward shottype. ReimuB is perfectly balanced.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:45:02 2017 No.16503961 >>16503945 People still pretend that SA is the epitome of 2hu gameplay new games scare them

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:46:27 2017 No.16503970

>>16503954
Marisa is not good up close because SakuyaA exists. ReimuB is not good because everything that B does, A does better.

SakuyaB is incredible for scoring though, but since people completely ignored my points about scoring and the fact that this is a pretty casual thread (until today lol) I stopped bringing it up.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:46:42 2017 No.16503973

Don't you fucking dare shit on SA's shots. Marisa B aside (who's very niche), all SA shots are perfectly usable and deal a decent amount of damage. Also, they have a huge impact of the story and character interactions and they are a very welcome change from the usual Reimu homing, Marisa laser, etc.

>>16503961
Because it's not? Heh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:46:43 2017 No.16503974 >>16503945 " technically the "optimal" way to complete a touhou game would be to just TAS it" nice bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:47:56 2017 No.16503981 >>16503973 >marisa b aside >literally the second best SA shot type bitch, you know nothing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:48:27 2017 No.16503985 >>16503970 >Marisa is not good because SakuyaA exists Very different shottypes anon, you can't compare apples to oranges >everything that B does, A does better. How's that far damage going anon?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:49:29 2017 No.16503993

>>16503974

Even if you don't believe that TAS "counts" based on your arbitrary beliefs my point that there's no need to play in the easiest way possible still stands. If all you wanted to do was beat the game as easily/effectively as possible why even play on lunatic? Why not just play on easy? Or medium if your goal is to get the good endings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:49:39 2017 No.16503994 >>16503985 >You cant compare apples to oranges Sure you can, they're fruits and they taste good

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:49:50 2017 No.16503996 >>16503916 >If you can complete the game without having to do anything special, then the shottype works. So you are in fact defining useable as "it is not literally impossible to clear the game with this shottype."

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:50:25 2017 No.16504005 >>16503985 why cant we just have balanced shot types like in eosd or PCB, excluding EoSD's Reimu a and PCBs Reimu a

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:50:27 2017 No.16504006 >>16503994 Apples taste better >>16503996 In a way, look up the definition of "usable"

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:50:42 2017 No.16504009 >>16503985 You don't have to shotgun with the gohei bro, not sure where you got that idea, you have to get closer for better reapplication once it starts gliding out. But that's it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:51:44 2017 No.16504015 >>16504005 Because ZUN doesn't make shottypes "balanced" he just makes them different This isn't a fighting game

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:51:48 2017 No.16504016 >>16504006 oranges are superior and you cant prove otherwise

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:52:52 2017 No.16504025 >>16504016 Post your apple/orange eating ratio I bet you haven't even eaten pineapples lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:52:54 2017 No.16504027 Fairy wars has the best shot balance. /thread

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:53:42 2017 No.16504034

>>16503981
Marisa B doesn't deal enough damage or requires heavy positioning. Compare with any other shot and you'll see the difference. Fire formation is shit compared to Wind formation in terms of fire power but this one requires pro skills. Yellow is situational as fuck and Earth might as well not be there.
The only reason I play Marisa B is Water formation, but the bomb will usually not deal any damage on deathbombing because it's a fixed AoE.

Sure, Water formation is fucking great but if I needed spread, I'd take Marisa A, who's also the strongest Marisa shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:54:00 2017 No.16504037 >>16504009 That's my point, she does excel at something that RA doesn't

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:54:12 2017 No.16504041

>>16503993
Honestly, I dont even know what the fuck you're talking about. This was originally about how DDC's resource system is broken compared to other touhou games, only Lolk is worse. We then went over how unbalanced the shots are, some are thousands of times better than the other shot choices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:54:55 2017 No.16504048 >>16504027 But anon, it is impossible to use the buttons in Fairy Wars. The control scheme is different and no one could ever realistically learn to use it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:55:12 2017 No.16504050 Oh and I finally 1cc'ed UFO. Thank Sanae B, you're absolutely broken.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:55:41 2017 No.16504056 What's your favourite broken 2hu game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:55:57 2017 No.16504058 >>16504050 Sanae is not broken, she's perfectly useable.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:56:51 2017 No.16504064

>>16504041

I'm saying that complaining about a game because it's "too easy" when you yourself are the one making it easy is ridiculous and I have no idea why you don't just play it without bombs or with worse shot types. Shot type balance doesn't matter at all since it's not a competitive game, some are more challenging than others but I don't see any issue with that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:56:52 2017 No.16504066 My arm is broken, no wonder I can't use it anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:57:05 2017 No.16504068 >>16504058 Do you know the meaning of "broken"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:58:24 2017 No.16504075 Is Broken Moon the best 2hu song? The other songs aren't as good

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:58:37 2017 No.16504077 >>16504064 Because we don't like the game, and we don't want to make getting a lunatic 1cc take longer than it needs to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:59:41 2017 No.16504085 File: 12 KB, 228x193, 1482684676490.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16504077 >we don't like the game >we

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:00:45 2017 No.16504093 >>16504077 But the reason you don't like the game in the first place is because you make it too easy for yourself, you're going in a circle dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:01:11 2017 No.16504096 >>16504085 what is this even implying, there was like 4 people here complaining about DDC

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:01:33 2017 No.16504097 >>16504093 Don't even bother, he's not worth anyone's time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:02:29 2017 No.16504104 The shitposting levels are reaching heights never seen before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:02:45 2017 No.16504105 >>16504096 Nobody but (You) "hates" the game

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:03:28 2017 No.16504110 >>16504093 alright, let me do a no poc run with sakuya b so it's funner and by funner, i mean all of a sudden it becomes eosd resource count, and it takes hours to kill anything because of how weak she is. good game my dude

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:04:51 2017 No.16504118 >>16504096 I wasn't complaining. I just said "back up your claims please".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:06:10 2017 No.16504127 >>16504110 cool shitpost, my dood

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:06:55 2017 No.16504136

>>16504110

It's not like you have to make it too hard either you know, why not just do a no poc run with a good shottype if you want a nice medium? Luckily the shot types in the game aren't all the same difficulty so you have plenty of different ways to challenge yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:07:08 2017 No.16504138 >>16504110 It's not entirely clear to me whether you are being sarcastic, but dear God, may someone finally post a fucking replay in this thread. It's way past time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:07:32 2017 No.16504140 >>16504136 he's just a shitposter, he can't even beat IN on easy

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:07:38 2017 No.16504141 >>16504048 It took thousands of hours but I finally did it, and I have found the meaning of life while doing so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:07:40 2017 No.16504142 File: 455 KB, 542x449, ss+(2017-02-01+at+05.06.30).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] amazing game

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:08:38 2017 No.16504147 >>16504142 >hiding the name

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:09:14 2017 No.16504152 >>16504136 because no poc is a weird handicap I could do no bomb, but i dont like the game enough for that

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:09:49 2017 No.16504155 >>16504105 DDC is objectively the worst Touhou game of the Windows era.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:10:46 2017 No.16504160 File: 10 KB, 168x167, 1461690792057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16504155 Mamizou is objectively the best 2hu of the Windows era.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:11:49 2017 No.16504163 >>16504152 can you even do anything at all mr. shitposter?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:12:41 2017 No.16504166 >>16504147 >hiding the name on an anonymous board Terrible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:13:16 2017 No.16504170 >>16504163 yes i have LNBs, do you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:13:47 2017 No.16504171 >>16504152 "I don't like the game enough to play the game in a way that I would enjoy more" is some interesting logic on your part but sure, I don't really care whether you play it or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:14:23 2017 No.16504175 >>16504141 Is the meaning of life to get a WR score and then not post it, leaving the whole competition without direction in the dark, laughing as you do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:14:37 2017 No.16504176 >>16504170 I have a WR

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:14:48 2017 No.16504179 >>16504171 why would i put 50+ hours trying to LNB a game i dont like

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:15:04 2017 No.16504180 >>16504176 SoEW Hard ReimuC doesnt count

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:15:27 2017 No.16504184 >>16504176 is it soew

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:16:05 2017 No.16504189 >>16504180 >>16504184 Bunch of plebs

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:16:17 2017 No.16504191 Come on you girls, we all know the best Touhou game of all is Hopeless Masquerade. You can't even prove that wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:16:40 2017 No.16504195 >>16504179 You're really not strong on logic are you... whatever, suit yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:17:06 2017 No.16504196 File: 32 KB, 181x189, 2005.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:17:07 2017 No.16504197 >>16504170 Not on DDC :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:18:01 2017 No.16504209 >>16504175 I don't have quads in A1, think you're thinking of the other guy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:19:19 2017 No.16504223 >>16504196 We already had Christmas this winter, Meiling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:20:31 2017 No.16504236 File: 33 KB, 480x598, ETERNAL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16504223

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:21:31 2017 No.16504240 Why are the people who supposedly play the games worse than secondaries?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:22:57 2017 No.16504253 >>16504240 Because they think they know more than each other and get riled up when someone bashes their favorite games, but have no problem bashing someone else's favorite game. It's an endless loop, and shitstorms like this result.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:24:22 2017 No.16504260 File: 522 KB, 1000x1000, casper cirno love heart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /shmupg/ loves you /2hu/!

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:24:46 2017 No.16504262

>>16504096
I'm complaining about Sakuya-B in DDC but I still really like the game as a whole.

>>16504138
But I don't have a replay of Sakuya-B because I suck at the game and she's a really bad shottype. I suppose I have a really old replay of Reimu-A in that game but it was so long ago that it wouldn't be representative of my skill level.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:24:47 2017 No.16504263 >>16504240 Secondaries enjoy a rich and varied life. Primaries do what, restart stage 1 for eight hours everyday?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:26:04 2017 No.16504267 >>16504263 2 hours

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:26:56 2017 No.16504272 File: 56 KB, 281x218, 1409273232.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16504267 You mean 1 hour

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:29:58 2017 No.16504285 >>16504263 I do 6 hours of resets, 6 hours of complaining over the fact that my arm(s) hurt, 3.5 minute fap because I have PE, undefined amount of time crying and the rest spent sleeping. You should try it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:34:42 2017 No.16504303 >>16504285 Anon, that sounds bad. You should try pursuing something more productive and fun in your life, like getting a PhD in Mathematics.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:36:05 2017 No.16504316

>>16504240
The whole secondary vs primary thing is retarded. I think these are great games and if anyone else thinks that then great, go play them.

But looking down on someone because they either don't play or aren't good at a certain type of videogame just reeks of ego. Basically, people should just shut up about it and do what they want to do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:40:29 2017 No.16504339 >>16504263 Thank god it wasn't only me. When I start resetting I typically preform worse and worse with each run as if it's some kind of curse, dying to the dumbest shit even I wouldn't have gotten hit by when I had first started playing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:47:34 2017 No.16504366 >>16504339 It happens to everyone, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:55:44 2017 No.16504397 >>16504142 >2.4b in only 230 hours I wish I could actually improve at these games

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:55:54 2017 No.16504399 >>16504339 That just means you need to take a break.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:57:07 2017 No.16504407 >>16504366 Is there a colloquial term for this phenomenon? >>16504399 I did

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:00:08 2017 No.16504426 >>16504407 I'm illiterate and don't know what colloquial means but you might be looking for diminishing returns?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:00:53 2017 No.16504433 >>16504407 The decreased performance is called "tilting" colloquially. You tilt. And, I think, playing for excessive amounts of time is called "going full shmup".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:02:44 2017 No.16504441 >>16504397 ganbatte your bestest, friend

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:03:02 2017 No.16504442 Finally decided to actually start playing with almost 0 experience with these kinds of games. EOSD is supposed to kick my ass on normal right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:05:14 2017 No.16504454 It's been a while since I checked, but is there a vsync patch for DDC/ISC/LoLK?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:07:47 2017 No.16504473

>>16504442
It took me a month with absolutely no spoilers and fast forward a year I can do Lunatic no bomb runs now (not very interested though, I am more of a secondary at heart).

One thing you absolutely want to get and run the game with, is the vertical sync patch. It makes the game so much more... playable. Set it up carefully so that it actually works.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:10:02 2017 No.16504486 >>16504454 no/no/yes http://ux.getuploader.com/swmplv75e/

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:11:23 2017 No.16504494 >>16504486 Why did he skip DDC/ISC?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:19:49 2017 No.16504530

>>16504442
Definitely take this >>16504473 anon's advice and use the vsync patch for EoSD. The whole pack of them for all the games is here:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/5uk43317q0ozjkj/VsyncPatch.zip

Don't use the retexture pack for any reason, it's a noobtrap and you'll regret it later. The english translation for that game is very outdated so check the wiki for a more accurate one if you're interested in that.

>>16504494
No idea and we don't have the source code (I think) to make them ourselves without doing it from scratch. I don't think DDC and ISC need it though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:41:26 2017 No.16504623 Are non main games welcome in this thread? Anyways, is there a way to disable weather in 12.3? It's fun at first, but there's too many retarded weathers to warrant it being on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:43:37 2017 No.16504629 >>16504623 >Anyways, is there a way to disable weather in 12.3? Yes. Stop playing that trash game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:43:45 2017 No.16504630 >>16504530 Every single game needs a vsync patch How else am I supposed to play at 120fps?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:44:37 2017 No.16504635 >>16504629 But it's fun

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:47:09 2017 No.16504646 >>16504630 Well I hope you don't like DDC or ISC then. LoLK uses the same engine so that dll might work but I haven't tried it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:50:10 2017 No.16504654 File: 92 KB, 497x363, 1484839558501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16504646 >I hope you don't like DDC or ISC then. I love them

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 00:46:21 2017 No.16505659 File: 547 KB, 640x480, fuck reimuc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] garbage shottype

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 01:10:14 2017 No.16505738 >>16505659 Is ReimuC really all that bad for Extra? I can imagine her being good for grazing the spiral nonspells and Genetics at least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 01:26:21 2017 No.16505788 >>16504175 get out chum

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 01:29:09 2017 No.16505798 >>16504646 >LoLK uses the same engine so that dll might work but I haven't tried it. Neither the th13 nor th15 dll works for the games inbetween.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 01:33:30 2017 No.16505819 >>16505798 I'm too apathetic to contact the developer so if it's in someone else's interest, you may want to try his twitter.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:10:09 2017 No.16505940

>>16505659
Nice job. I'd love to see one of your replays, honestly.

>>16505738
ReimuC is definitely the most obnoxious Reimu shot to score with. Her bomb is the worst when it comes to bombgrazing (MarisaC is also hella bad at it), and bombgrazing is quite important for SA scoring. Her super speed isn't particularly helpful either (only really useful in TAS).

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:26:05 2017 No.16506011 Byakuren keeps bullying me

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:26:21 2017 No.16506012 >205 new posts Jesus, what the hell happened

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:31:17 2017 No.16506030

>>16505940
The shitty bomb and super speed aren't good, yeah. Her shot is also hard to control; it's like playing IN Youmu but without the damage. But there are some quirks to ReimuC's shot that make some parts of that particular stage easier though, like the two things I mentioned earlier and getting the Sanae 3 safespot. From my very limited experience of scorerunning SA Extra with ReimuA, one thing I always hated was trying to get the full 25 graze per wave while also hitting her with my base shot instead of only getting 15 or 20 graze. Then when I finally find the correct spot, I already lost several hundred graze from moving too much.

Maybe I'm just not precise enough with my keyboard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:37:56 2017 No.16506046 >>16506030 Ah, I see. I didn't expect the Sanae 3 safespot to be that obnoxious. What are your other plans for SA Extra, if you don't mind me asking?

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:58:47 2017 No.16506091

>>16506030
spiral nonspells are ok but koishi will almost always wall you at one point or another on one of the jellybean spirals, so you have no choice but to plant a bomb out of her way and lose potential graze (asl had to bomb both once in the reimuc wr)

reimuc can finish genetics the fastest, yeah

for sanae 3, i use a marker where you go in between the third and fourth last digits of the spell card point bonus from the top

if you're going for the asl route and bomb sanae 2, you want to cover the top left part of your hitbox with the bottom tip of f in "bonus failed"

getting the sweet spot can be pretty hard for reimua so i don't blame you, you do have a lot more leeway with reimuc and marisa

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:08:18 2017 No.16506116

>>16506046
Oh, I stopped a long while ago due to frustration and gradual lack of interest. I think I got to Koishi maybe 3 times out of a couple hundred attempts that got to Nine Syllable Stabs and fucked up the first spiral on all of them.

Honestly, NSS grazing is probably the hardest thing to do in the entire stage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:10:41 2017 No.16506126 >>16506116 From what I've seen and heard, most attempts at high-level SA Extra scoring don't get past Sanae. So I can imagine how frustrating it'd be.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:33:59 2017 No.16506186

>>16506126
It's not unique to extra, SA prioritizies getting as much graze as soon as possible, maingame tends to be ridiculous and then at some point on s5 it just turns into pure survival.

iirc being stuck on stage 1 for a few days isn't very uncommon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:40:33 2017 No.16506191 >>16506186 There was a time when Gobou (the current WR holder for SA Lunatic) spent the vast majority of his attempts in Stage 1 and only a couple credits managed to make it to Stage 5.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 04:19:01 2017 No.16506265 >>16506191 From what I heard he got two credits to stage 5 in the span of a year, sounds pretty painful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 04:22:49 2017 No.16506280 >>16506265 Yep. At least he managed to get 5b. He was aiming for 5.1b, but still, very amazing run.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 05:22:34 2017 No.16506401 >>16505659 Nice score, congrats! Shame you didnt like Reimu C, I found her one of the most fun shot types to use once I got the hang of her. Then again, I can see why she'd be more annoying on extra than in the main game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:05:07 2017 No.16506485 File: 11 KB, 400x1080, summary.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What should I do next?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:07:46 2017 No.16506493 >>16506485 More Extra stages.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:20:00 2017 No.16506515

>>16506485

LLS and MS, and TD unless you had some particularly strong reason to have skipped it.

You could also try and do some extra stages, I recommend Mokou since spell practice makes beating her a lot less tedious compared to other extra stage bosses.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:27:16 2017 No.16506529

>>16506493
If I managed to do Ran, it's only because I enjoyed the shit of both the stage AND the fight. Also, I got "lucky" (I guess) that I did a "perfect" resource management throughout 70% of the mode, which allowed me to clear the stage even though I had never made it further than Shikigami before that. Other Extra stages don't look that appealing to me.

>>16506515
I didn't really "skip" TD. I made it several times as far as the last spellcard but never managed to actually beat the game. Tried again yesterday at around 2-3 AM but the game somehow kicked my ass (was playing as Youmu). I guess I'll try PC98 as you said.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:45:56 2017 No.16506567
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I wonder why I can't reach Stage 5 with NT in IN given that I did reach it with Yuyu only.
I feel like an idiot for just noticing this now and asking, but what the hell is that Rank you get after every stage?

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 07:15:12 2017 No.16506607
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>>16506567
How did you unlock Yuyuko solo, then?

>what the hell is that Rank you get after every stage?
I think the rank is solely based on whether or not you capture that stage's Last Spell.
If you do, you get rank 甲.
If you do not, you get rank 乙.
It means "First in rank" and "Second in rank", respectively.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 07:15:41 2017 No.16506608 >>16506567 1 is when you managed to collect enough "Time" to advance the timer by only half an hour. 2 is when you didn't, and it skips a full hour.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 07:21:15 2017 No.16506622 >>16504155 TD exists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 07:47:17 2017 No.16506692 >>16504260 This explains the huge shitpost influx

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 08:00:17 2017 No.16506742 >>16506692 Actually the shitposting brought /shmupg/ here this time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 08:20:27 2017 No.16506809 >>16506485 How come you can use Yukari already if you didn't beat Kaguya with all the teams? Whatever, 1cc IN FB with MT and ST >>16506607 Should have specified, but my struggle is in lunatic mode. >>16506608 Ah I see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 09:05:10 2017 No.16506994 >>16506742 /shmupg/ is so bored I wouldn't be even surprised if they just said "hey let's troll" /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 09:13:40 2017 No.16507026 Man Yukari is harder than I'd expected, her time out is brutal if you are not familiar with it and Ran quicks your ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 09:31:10 2017 No.16507092 >>16506994 They literally did >>>/vg/167187513 What a bunch of spergs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 09:40:48 2017 No.16507124 >>16506091 Would it be alright if you could post your replays of your scores? 1.092b ReimuA and 1.044b ReimuC. >>16507092 They came after the shitposting began. They just made it worse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 09:51:12 2017 No.16507156 >>16507124 Pretty sure the DDC shitposting started only so this could happen tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 09:58:33 2017 No.16507169 >>16506809 >How come you can use Yukari already if you didn't beat Kaguya with all the teams? No fucking idea.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 11:49:19 2017 No.16507637
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>>16502176
Me again. I tilted and lost a good amount my lives to Seija, seriously she can go to hell, but I managed to have enough lives for Sukuna, which I didn't even need in the end, to 1cc this fucking game.
I felt like a badass against her, capturing her shit left and right.

Soooo now, only 9 and 15 are left for me to 1cc. Which one should I play first?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 11:54:05 2017 No.16507660 >>16507637 That better be SakuB anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 12:43:14 2017 No.16507801 File: 320 KB, 640x480, SakuyaA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16507660 >SakuB Fuck no, SakuyaB sucks ass for survival, why would I ever use her? SakuA for life nigga.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 12:48:35 2017 No.16507815 >>16507801 >posting endings Delete this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 14:20:18 2017 No.16508092 >>16504142 >2.4b in 240 hours actual jap or just talented?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 14:27:37 2017 No.16508120 >>16508092 2.4b is not even memelist tier bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 14:50:38 2017 No.16508216 >>16508120 its still impossible

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 15:00:05 2017 No.16508240 >>16506485 Turn off anti-aliasing in photoshop when you use the bucket tool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 15:49:28 2017 No.16508437 So I wanted to do a little bit of Mokou just for fun. I made a shitload of easy mistakes during the stage and Mokou herself, and still reached 70%. Is this the power of getting gooder?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:03:43 2017 No.16508499 >>16508437 I think it's the resources talking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:22:05 2017 No.16508577 >>16508092 You flatter me. Not too much longer and I'll have my goal of 2.5b, I hope.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:47:18 2017 No.16508684 >>16506809 He probably downloaded a game that already had a complete save file and everything unlocked. I know I did when I first started playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:50:13 2017 No.16508693 >>16508216 yeah, pretty impossible, but there's impossible and then there's impossible you know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 03:41:22 2017 No.16510931 >>16508437 Depends on where you died and what you captured.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 17:05:16 2017 No.16513341 16:9 fullscreen 2hu, yay or nay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 17:57:08 2017 No.16513569 >>16513341 Anything other than 4:3 is retarded. You want circles to actually be circles, don't you?

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