Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1804

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Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1804 Anonymous Thu Apr 27 00:57:00 2017 No.16928252 [Reply] [Original]

Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>16902927

This thread is for the discussion and learning of Japanese with raw VNs, LNs, anime and manga.
If you have no interest in otaku media or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Let's have a nice thread by reporting and ignoring off-topic posts.
がんばってゆっくりしていってね！！！

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:00:07 2017 No.16928262 File: 45 KB, 256x368, 29057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Wanko to Kurasou suitable as babbies first native material? I can't get Hanahira or Flyable Heart to run on Linux.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:10:31 2017 No.16928290
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To the advanced people: what took you to the next level? I feel like I've hit a wall in my studies and feel like there's something important that I'm not doing.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:25:55 2017 No.16928310

>>16928290
There is no next level, and in fact there's no levels at all - there's just knowing things and not knowing things. At the beginning of language learning, you know nothing, so there's a lot of things to learn, so you start with the most common words and grammar and so on. What changes over time isn't what "level" you're on, but rather with what frequency the things you don't know appear. After a lot of time learning, what you would call "advanced level", there's no special walls to climb or challenges to overcome. Rather, it's just the things you don't know are appear with a low frequency. In the beginning you don't know the word for "food", after a long time you don't know the word for an obscure dish eaten only by ancient Ainu tribes. There's do difference between these two states of learning expect one word occurs with less frequency.

In other words. What do those of an "advanced level" do to take themselves to the "next level"? Read more, because that's all one can do - gradually learn the things one doesn't know. There will be no special wall to climb, no specific challenge to overcome. There will simply be the gradual accumulation of knowledge over a long period of time. Welcome to language learning, enjoy your lifelong stay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:33:43 2017 No.16928329 >>16928310 >after a long time you don't know the word for an obscure dish eaten only by ancient Ainu tribes 魚なんかだっけ

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:36:42 2017 No.16928337

>>16928310
I guess my "wall" is how often I have to stop and look up words anytime I get out of my comfort zone. The words I look up are sometimes obscure so it's harder to remember it or feel like I should make a flashcard out of it.
To me "advanced" is being able to read a book like a native, with occasionally needing to look up obscure words.
Anyway, is there anything you guys were doing/not doing that when you fixed it you felt like you progressed better?
>enjoy your lifelong stay
I'm trying to enjoy it but it can be frustrating when you feel like a beginner the moment you get out of your depth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:45:44 2017 No.16928360 >>16928310 Recently one unknown word for me was とつおいつ.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:46:30 2017 No.16928362

>>16928337
Indeed, your problem is not knowing things, as is always the case.
And just like in the beginner stage, the solution to not knowing things is to learn them. There's nothing special, no magic to learning. Exposure and repetition. Time. Read more, listen more, maybe throw in some flashcards or LingQ - that's all you can do. Though, as for a specific point, if you are sticking to a comfort zone, then the obvious advice is to not do that and diversify your reading/listening content. Naturally if you only read porn mags you're gonna be a fish out of water when you try reading news articles.

And by the way, two notes: one, natives tend to skip over words they don't know very often without even thinking about it, an advanced technique is learning to just ignore stuff you don't know cause it's too rare or extraneous ( here is a collection of hard English words from chapter 1 of a normal old fantasy book I read, how many do you know? https://pastebin.com/kSLUz7di . Two, be sure you have the proper scale for language learning in mind. You won't be native-level or fluent within a year or two, and maybe not even three. Language learning takes a long time. Don't get too ahead of yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:52:43 2017 No.16928387 >>16928262 Anything which is not Hanahira or Flyable Heart is most likely better than them.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 01:56:05 2017 No.16928392
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>>16928362
>an advanced technique is learning to just ignore stuff you don't know cause it's too rare or extraneous
I do ignore stuff but I feel like I'm cheating myself or risking not understanding something important by doing that. A word might seem obscure but maybe it's more frequent than I think.
Though I do get what you're saying. You just have to keep grinding and stick with it. There's no way around it. I just get the feeling sometimes that the way I go about it is flawed or maybe I'm not doing enough everyday. But if that's the case then I should just do more, right? I guess I just wanted to vent.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:01:01 2017 No.16928399

>>16928392
Natives cheat themselves (just show a middle schooler Shakespeare for instance), so if your goal is native-level, embrace the scumminess.
Anyway, if you're
1 - Reading and listening to comprehensible input (native material)
2 - Diversifying what material you consume
3 - Doing all this for at least an hour a day, preferably more
Then you don't have to worry about much. You can throw in Anki like I mentioned, but at the end of the day, there's really no complex system necessary for language learning - it's thankfully simple. Reading and listening (to comprehensible input) is sincerely all you need to do to be successful. Like I mentioned though, don't forget about time. It really does take many years to be fluent in Japanese. Even if you're a year and a half in and feel really experience, you're still only in the midst of your journey, a growing sapling.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:07:41 2017 No.16928417
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I know this is probably a stupid question even as a beginner but what's going on with "方” here?
I understand it roughly means a direction or way of doing something, but wouldn't it need の to nominalize the questions?
I'm roughly translating it to "The one who chased me or the strong one?" but in that regard it would be written as かた instead of ほう I'd assume?
Sorry if this is a really stupid question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:08:44 2017 No.16928421 File: 433 KB, 1000x626, 1493010533244.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16928399 Thank you for your input anon. I will go back to reading now so that I can get better at reading so that I can read more and more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:09:49 2017 No.16928424 File: 134 KB, 540x410, 1427952982423.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16928421 Do your best anon, and good luck.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:13:29 2017 No.16928438

>>16928310
Early on, you progress so fast (every word you learn signifcantly cuts down on the frequency you have to look up stuff) that it kinda makes sense to think in terms of levels. Something can seem completely incomprehensible, but when you come back to it a month later, it's easy to understand, and it really feels like you've progressed to a new level, like you're just not the same person you were a month ago. But later on, it more or less stops happening, and if you're stuck in the level mindset, you feel like you're not progressing at all, even though you're learning new words every day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:22:27 2017 No.16928465 >>16928387 I was asking in terms of difficulty rather than quality. It looks like it's probably an easy read, but looks can be deceptive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:29:20 2017 No.16928488 >>16928417 かた is mainly used for people. Especially it is used when the subject is in front of you. And it is polite way of saying. ほう is used for both people and things. This is more common when you do not express politely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 02:36:50 2017 No.16928500 >>16928262 Can you not just use a virtual machine?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:08:22 2017 No.16928567 >>16928362 > a normal old fantasy book Titus Groan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 03:21:32 2017 No.16928585 >>16928567 The reason for this being that I searched for "rabous" and found out it's not even a word, it's a likely misprint of rufous in Titus Groan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:10:21 2017 No.16928698 >>16928290 ヤンハスとかを聞くのはかなり有効と思える https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmdNX8xW5kc

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:23:55 2017 No.16928727 File: 186 KB, 900x1200, ジャガイモ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think someone here was asking why ジャガイモ was called that in Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:54:29 2017 No.16928790 question, do you usually let the failed 'again' cards on anki be reviewed the next day or do you do a 'custom study' the day you failed the card?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:57:06 2017 No.16928792 >>16928727 Do you also know why it's called パン and not ブレッド?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 04:57:13 2017 No.16928793 >>16928790 I only do the 'review forgotten cards' on days where I get less than 85% percent true retention.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:00:51 2017 No.16928802 >>16928727 じゃが芋ja.ga.imoねあたしのひいおじいちゃんのはつおんはジャガタラ芋ja.gar.ta.ra.imoでジャカルタ芋jakarta.imoに近かったよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:01:14 2017 No.16928804 >>16928793 where do you see the true retention option

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:02:24 2017 No.16928808 >>16928804 https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/613684242

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:13:18 2017 No.16928834 >>16928792 That and a few other common loanwords come from Portuguese, because the majority of the Christian missionaries who arrived in Japan in the 16th century were Portuguese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:25:36 2017 No.16928870 File: 109 KB, 777x720, 1480529356447.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >true retention only slightly above 80%

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:39:01 2017 No.16928913 File: 79 KB, 500x333, しょっぱん.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16928792 あんきしてね >しょっぱんこういうパンのとくべつな名前

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:44:26 2017 No.16928927 >>16928290 I can pinpoint with 100% accuracy that you are either are not reading enough, or not pushing yourself and sticking to babby tier content only.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 05:44:26 2017 No.16928928 >>16928913 嘘ばっかり教えるなカッペ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:27:40 2017 No.16929039 >>16928290 Masturbate more. Most people think they fap too much but the reality of the situation is that people fap far less than they could be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:28:23 2017 No.16929041 I'll finish Core6k first before reading!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:29:26 2017 No.16929045 File: 65 KB, 229x173, 1491794998264.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16929041

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:39:03 2017 No.16929079 File: 106 KB, 427x480, 552908210.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16929041

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:47:55 2017 No.16929098 >>16929041 Procrastinate further. Do the entire DoJG deck after Core6k.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:48:21 2017 No.16929100
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>always read english manga as still not that confident in moon
>group scanlating it has basically abandoned/are working slow as fuck on a series I like with 1 volume left
>download the raw volume and manage to work my way through it maybe 3x~ slower than an english volume with all the kanji/dic lookups
Feels good mang. Am I out of intermediate hell now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:48:28 2017 No.16929101 >>16928567 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:49:10 2017 No.16929105 >>16929100 >manga You're still the equivalent of a day 1 beginner.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:49:31 2017 No.16929106 File: 48 KB, 277x350, disgust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16929100 If you still have to look up kanji, you're still a beginner, plain and simple.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 06:50:17 2017 No.16929109 >>16929105 Are text walls without additional context (light novels/novels, etc) the benchmark?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:05:05 2017 No.16929165 >>16928290 practicing speaking instead of pretending it doesn't exist

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:07:47 2017 No.16929178 >>16929098 >learning words is procrastinating Never go full retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:11:14 2017 No.16929194 >>16929178 Staying in the shallow end of the pool practising your swimming strokes with your feet firmly planted on the ground doesn't lead to the best results. Jump in the deep end.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:12:53 2017 No.16929198 >>16929194 >doesn't lead to the best results Spergs like you never learn languages anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:14:57 2017 No.16929203 >>16929198 When did reading over being an ankidrone become the sperg option?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:26:40 2017 No.16929235 >あなたたちほど離れて暮らしていた家族もないでしょうに、私にはそれを言うの？ >でしょうに I'm not used to seeing this mid-sentence with a に, what is the meaning here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 07:32:17 2017 No.16929245 >>16929235 >でしょう？だと、攻撃的にきこえるよにがつくとじょせいてきで、やわらかくきこえるよなんでかはわからないよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 08:10:26 2017 No.16929382 Are there other meanings of くせに other than the usual and 'yet, despite, even though'. I've seen it being translated in Lucky Star as: >コナちゃんくせに >Kona-chan thinks she's all good

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 08:12:18 2017 No.16929391 >>16929382 Stop reading translations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 08:12:46 2017 No.16929395 >>16929382 https://core6000.neocities.org/dojg/entries/257.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 08:20:02 2017 No.16929421 >>16929382 >くせにこの語尾は文全体を攻撃的にするよ

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 08:52:51 2017 No.16929536
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>>16929109
Not unless you want to talk like a robot. Manga has the benefit of being able to show what's happening visually and the dialogue is how people would normally speak.

Try listening to an audiobook and imagine that someone was actually explaining something to you in real life. It'd be weird.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:06:23 2017 No.16929579 >>16929100 You should've been doing this from the beginning. Mangas are normally easy except the lookup systems are slow as hell compared to vn's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:08:55 2017 No.16929590 >>16929382 アノン君のくせに、(上手い) 日本語を話す。

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:25:25 2017 No.16929661 Is there any good site to get song lyrics on that I can look up with rikai? I tried uta-net and it puts them in a picture. http://www.uta-net.com/song/15846/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:39:39 2017 No.16929718 >>16929661 If you have to use rikai for the lyrics in that you shouldn't be looking at song lyrics in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:43:42 2017 No.16929732 File: 82 KB, 650x500, just bee yourself.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16929718 黙るくださいちびチャン

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:57:36 2017 No.16929783 >>16928252 Nice image. Did you make it yourself?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 09:59:56 2017 No.16929788 >learned Japanese >shit at explaining it I always wanted to give back to the thread when I finally got good. Feels bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 10:09:47 2017 No.16929827 >>16929661 http://www.kasi-time.com/item-18700.html

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 10:25:55 2017 No.16929907

>>16929788
It's the same for me in all languages that I am adequate at. There is a lot of formal knowledge you need to properly explain sentence structure and grammatical points and you don't need that knowledge in day to day life, so it doesn't get reinforced simply by absorbing and understanding the language. Look at it like that, if you can't explain it it means you stopped running on training wheels and are actually beginning to understand the language as it should be understood.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 10:54:58 2017 No.16929993 File: 958 B, 224x19, fuck me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >that good feel when you clear your daily reps

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 10:59:26 2017 No.16930014 File: 1 KB, 229x45, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16929993 Y-yea haha

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:01:01 2017 No.16930020 File: 205 KB, 357x343, smugmb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16930014 >2 hours for 300 cards Are you writing them all down or what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:02:14 2017 No.16930027 >>16930020 Actually I just wanted some (You)s I'm using Anki for mathematical formulas and exercises so depending on what kind of task it is it can take me 2-3 minutes inflating all my Japanese cards.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:03:53 2017 No.16930032

>>16929827
Thanks for the spoonfeeding.

>>16929788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkm0TNFzIeg

I use this technique for grammatical structures that make no fucking sense to me. The only downside is when you're not able to do it all you have to do a fair bit of reading over boring shit and try again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:16:55 2017 No.16930078 >>16930020 diff anon here, but my time inflates like mad because I study at work and get distracted by havin' to do actual work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:39:17 2017 No.16930156 >>16929993 >that good feel when you delete Anki

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:39:47 2017 No.16930158 What is どっこらしょっと supposed to convey? All I could find is that it's something old people say.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:44:24 2017 No.16930178 >>16930020 Yet another anon. I do, actually. Helps me retain stuff better. I take my time writing not only the kanji I'm reviewing, for example, but also its readings and some associated vocab.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 11:49:07 2017 No.16930200 >>16930158 Seems to be an exclamation displaying physical effort etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:01:17 2017 No.16930248 >「何かを知ったつもりになってどうするの？　そんなの、過去を担保にして共有の幻想を得るようなものじゃないの……」 what does 担保 mean in 過去を担保? i don't see what the sentence would mean if it was "securing the past"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:08:49 2017 No.16930270 >>16930248 担保 isn't a verb. The structure you're looking at is AをBにして, which means to turn A into B.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:26:48 2017 No.16930310 Do we all agree that the best part of learning Japanese is all the suddenly available porn?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:28:57 2017 No.16930318 >>16930310 No.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:29:37 2017 No.16930320 File: 547 KB, 645x476, 1485559906614.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16930310 Absolutely. I now masturbate 3 times more than before I started learning, and exhentai has become my second most visited site.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:33:14 2017 No.16930338 What is 'the may take the の particle' in nouns? I already get that if you add する it will make that noun into an action verb. But, I don't get it if you add の though. Was it tackled in TK cause I don't remember.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:40:11 2017 No.16930367 >>16930338 赤の空

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:43:53 2017 No.16930381 >　本人はまったく無意識だろうが、弱さをうまくつかって、他人の気を惹く術を心得ている。 How can you be both 無意識 and 心得ているing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:46:10 2017 No.16930389 >>16930381 Really, now. I think you're overthinking it. He does it on a subconcious level. What's wierd about that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 12:52:51 2017 No.16930419 >>16930320 >exhentai That's probably the site I use the least now. Pixiv is the best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 13:04:00 2017 No.16930454 >>16930419 For original content straight from artists yeah. But you can't get your monthly Comic LO rips at pixiv.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 13:47:20 2017 No.16930618 >>16930454 I was never into that normie shit anyway. Pixiv is the best way to get the tags I'm into, DLsite is a decent second, and Ex is a distant third.

Anonymous Thu Apr 27 13:51:35 2017 No.16930638
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Looks like Rikaisama is getting discontinued, is anybody planning a fork or something?
This extension is essential for studying japanese, don't want to go back to rikaichan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 13:52:23 2017 No.16930639 >>16930638 yomichan exists but isn't as good

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:05:19 2017 No.16930688 File: 46 KB, 759x347, netmarketshare-deskop-browser-january-2017-759x347.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16930638 What is obvious is that it needs a good Chrome version. Firefox is a deprecated platform as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:12:11 2017 No.16930710 >>16930688 Chrome is primarily used by tech-illiterate normalfags.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:18:34 2017 No.16930735 >>16930710 Firefox is primarily used by people who enjoy a shitty browsing experience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:19:17 2017 No.16930738 >>16930735 I have a better browsing experience, actually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:21:32 2017 No.16930749 >>16930310 I'm too lazy to read porn dialogue most of the time. I'm driven by impulsiveness when fapping.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:24:20 2017 No.16930760 >>16930749 You mean you don't get turned on by quality writing like 「ご主人様のおちんちんが私の子宮口とエッチなキスしています〜」?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:34:55 2017 No.16930806 Can Japs speak without saying だって and なんて every three words?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 14:51:37 2017 No.16930862 >>16930806 Yes, you're just not advanced enough to see it. Come back when you're at least N3, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:05:31 2017 No.16930897 How much Anki is too much? Today I spent 5 hours on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:10:54 2017 No.16930913 >>16930897 Anki doesn't teach you Japanese, it only helps with refreshing your memory. Most of that time would be better spent reading and listening.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:16:47 2017 No.16930936 >>16930897 More than half an hour is too much

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:30:32 2017 No.16930987 Sticky is down? What do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 15:47:17 2017 No.16931043 >>16930987 嘘つき

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:02:11 2017 No.16931312 >>16930913 The more time I spend reading, the more new cards I accumulate in Anki, and I just end up needing to spend more time in Anki to get through them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:15:40 2017 No.16931341 >>16931312 You don't need to keep up with your mined words; having a large backlog is completely normal. Just do 25 new cards a day or whatever you can be consistent with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:17:55 2017 No.16931347 >>16931341 20 is already enough to make me feel like I'm wasting too much of my time staring at words.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:23:39 2017 No.16931366 >私たちも嫌々ながら嬉々として誘拐したんすよ！ Why

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:29:51 2017 No.16931393 >>16928870 >True retention for the past month is only 70 Just keep grinding. Anything above 0% is you retaining and learning shit, some people are just better at memorizing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:38:43 2017 No.16931430 /djt/ I need to consult you on a matter of compelling content Is Youjo Senki compelling? I can't tell if it is or it's just a meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:39:40 2017 No.16931434 >>16931430 >I can't tell if it is or it's just a meme I'm pretty sure it's actually an anime.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:40:42 2017 No.16931440 >>16931430 Knowing that would require you to read it, generously assuming you don't copy your taste from random posts on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 17:46:21 2017 No.16931465 >>16931430 >/djt/ Fuck off, retard. >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:06:45 2017 No.16931917 >>16931430 Try it out, I dropped it after the first two episodes myself, not compelling >>16931465 are you salty because he added forward slashes around djt?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 20:26:56 2017 No.16931989 Any podcasts that aren't just weebs talking in English that you guys enjoy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 21:14:25 2017 No.16932169 >>16931465 >>>/jp/djt/ >>>/a/djt/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 22:38:05 2017 No.16932514 >>16931989 Bluraiji Though it's not exactly a podcast

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 22:45:36 2017 No.16932531 File: 39 KB, 483x935, day 30 kanji.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wani Kani is life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 22:50:12 2017 No.16932551 >>16932531 Weak.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:39:38 2017 No.16932744 >>16932531 >recognize nearly all of them with only vocab study I just don't see the point in kanji study past the first 1k of RTK at the absolute most personally.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:52:29 2017 No.16932795 File: 277 KB, 1280x720, 1492920810070.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16932531 >day 30 >825 kanji >27 kanji a day I hope at least you're having fun while wasting your time, retaining nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 27 23:53:31 2017 No.16932798 いもうとうさんは前世にどんな生物だったと思いますか

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:28:15 2017 No.16932913 >>16932798 あたし天使

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 00:52:54 2017 No.16932963 いもうとという野郎早くくたばれ

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:27:42 2017 No.16933056 >>16930638 Do you know the last version of Firefox it works properly on?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:34:05 2017 No.16933067 Reading is overrated. You still need a good amount of Anki for efficient learning of vocab.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:35:03 2017 No.16933068 >>16933067 i stopped at 1k words and couldn't be happier then again i'm some kind of savant that picks things up without having to intentionally work at them so who knows, do whatever works for you

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:39:56 2017 No.16933082 >>16930638 What the fuck.. I switched to Firefox just for this and now it's getting discontinued.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:42:02 2017 No.16933084

So what grammar book should I read now that I've read Tae Kim? I liked Tae Kim because it's and easy jump start, but man, once you finish the thing and continue trying to read you really see its shortcomings beyond just being a life jacket.

I've of course been going through the DoJG at my leisure and looking up entries whenever I come across something I don't understand but I think I would benefit from a more guided approach.

Is something like Genki worth doing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:42:28 2017 No.16933086 >>16929100 This is not even close to intermediate. You're unironically lower beginner.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:52:00 2017 No.16933110

>>16933084
>Is something like Genki worth doing?

Yes, but make sure you do it properly. College professors (people with PhDs in Japanese) spend 4 semesters (16 months) doing Genki 1&2. You should spend at least that long working through the books or your learning will be stunted. Also see if you can find a good Discord group where you can practice the partner exercises.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:53:57 2017 No.16933113 >>16933082 it's been discontinued for a long time

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:54:16 2017 No.16933116 >>16933110 Eh? Why should it take that long?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 01:54:27 2017 No.16933118 >>16933110 This is a horrible post.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:16:20 2017 No.16933197 >>16933082 its very unlikely to need changing much, unless firefox completely breaks it with an 'update' in which case, dont update

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:32:55 2017 No.16933249 >>16933197 >dont update They don't really give you a choice though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:36:58 2017 No.16933270 File: 517 KB, 683x3390, day 30.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16932744 my retention is good. A lot of the kanji I learned a year ago. But i dekinai'd

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:39:42 2017 No.16933277 >>16933270 >90% retention my 70% weeps.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:42:50 2017 No.16933289 >>16933270 kanji is also a lot easier to learn when you know the radicals, and using the Wanikani mnemonics. At least, personally. Also knowing what a kanji means helps me learn new words much easier. But i'm an anki drone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:45:39 2017 No.16933298 File: 27 KB, 800x600, oxxo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know how to type this on my keyboard, someone please help me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:48:04 2017 No.16933301 >>16933298 konbini o-puningu fakku

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 02:54:59 2017 No.16933318
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I'm trying to use ITHVNR but it keeps giving me an error when I try to run it saying "ITHVNR.exe is not a valid Win32 application."

Anyone know what the problem is? I've installed the Visual C++ 2015 redistributable as per the instructions and even tried rebooting to no avail.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:13:09 2017 No.16933381 File: 27 KB, 315x295, おへそ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] おにいちゃんおへそー

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:15:06 2017 No.16933393 File: 30 KB, 574x323, ff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16933249 I thought so too, but its possible. You do pic related and in about:config app.update.auto - false app.update.enabled - false app.update.silent - false

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:23:32 2017 No.16933427 >>16933393 How would that be a security risk?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:30:04 2017 No.16933452 >>16933427 security updates?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:38:17 2017 No.16933475 >>16933427 New exploits for web browsers are discovered all the time. It's a very bad idea to disable updates since it necessarily means missing out on any new security patches.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:40:54 2017 No.16933487 File: 10 KB, 73x154, Screenshot_12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anybody know the kanji/meaning for this, i'm a little stuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:42:00 2017 No.16933494 >>16933487 meaning:褒めろ

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:43:13 2017 No.16933498 >>16933452 >>16933475 Instead of doing that I disabled "update add-ons automatically". Hopefully that works and I don't have to worry about any security risks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:44:15 2017 No.16933504 >>16933487 感想

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:45:35 2017 No.16933510 >>16933504 >感想 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:45:47 2017 No.16933511 >>16933487 Yeah it means "the pleasure of being cummed inside anally."

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:48:06 2017 No.16933516

>>16933498
...that's completely pointless. Rikaisama won't get updated whether you disable that option or not since the developers have ended support for it. All that will happen now is that you will miss out on updates for your other addons and they might break too with some future update.

The problem is that future Firefox updates might break the add-on due to changes in the code of Firefox itself, and there will be no future updates to Rikaisama to prevent/fix that.

What needs to happen is for someone to fork Rikaisama and continue maintaining it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:49:05 2017 No.16933520 >>16929039 This is true. I think I've learned more Japanese reading hentai than through any other activity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:49:51 2017 No.16933523 How does this true rentention work? My true retention is only around 5% for this month.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 03:52:33 2017 No.16933529 >>16933516 Oh okay I get it now. So we just wait for someone to volunteer to maintain it from now on.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:05:06 2017 No.16933551
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>>16933529
Basically, assuming anyone steps up to the task, and assuming Rikaisama's functionality will even be possible under WebExtensions (which is due to be introduced in version 57, I believe).

Speaking of which... I wonder if the reason they're abandoning it isn't due to SJWzilla switching their add-on API to Chrome's garbage one (WebExtensions). Maybe they can't get Rikaisama to work with it, which might explain why they never made a version of Rikaisama for Chrome.

>>16933197
>>16933249
>>16933393
I just thought of two other methods.

1. You could use the ESR version of Firefox. If the problem is the add-on API switch, then Rikaisama should continue to work under this version until the end of 2018's first quarter, when ESR will switch to a new version based on Firefox version 59.

2. I don't know if Rikaisama works under Palemoon (a very conservative Firefox fork), but if it does then it should continue to work fine on there indefinitely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:09:04 2017 No.16933558 >>16933551 Quick Google search found a case of another add-on developer discontinuing his add-ons due to the API switch: https://www.ghacks.net/2017/01/28/firefox-add-on-quicksaver-quits/ So it may well be that that's what's going on here too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:20:52 2017 No.16933590 >>16933551 >>16933558 Is Firefox dying now? I sort of lost interest in it when it went to the new monthly releases.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:27:59 2017 No.16933606 Do I have a chance at passing N3 with a J-CAT of 164.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:29:43 2017 No.16933609 >>16933606 Don't do N's under N1.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:29:44 2017 No.16933610

>>16933590
With this add-on API switch, I expect it to decline considerably (well, even more than it already has in any case). Besides privacy concerns with Chrome and Chromium, add-ons are the reason anyone still uses this shitty browser.

When they switch to this new add-on API, it will just be open source Chrome with worse performance and a more reassuring brand name in terms of user privacy.

If the switch ends up killing Rikaisama, Tree Style Tab and so on, I will switch to Pale Moon, as I suspect will many others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:30:51 2017 No.16933613 >>16933606 Why would you want to take N3?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:32:46 2017 No.16933619 >>16933613 University application

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:34:45 2017 No.16933623 >>16933619 What do they need N3 for? Usually they would just give you a placement test to determine your level. Most universities recognize that JLPT is kind of shitty as a language qualification because it doesn't test production.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:36:10 2017 No.16933629 >>16933623 It's something for my personal statement, as I'm applying to top universities.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:37:37 2017 No.16933633 >>16933629 You can pass N3 easily by studying for the test. Spend a few months doing the Shin Kanzen Master N3 book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:40:03 2017 No.16933640 >>16933610 >I will switch to Pale Moon, as I suspect will many others. I would, if rikai works using it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:40:23 2017 No.16933642 >>16933633 Which ones should I get. The Grammar or reading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:42:55 2017 No.16933656 So 退く has 5 different readings... 現役を退いて Which one would be used in something like this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 04:43:29 2017 No.16933660 >>16933642 Both. And the listening.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 05:00:22 2017 No.16933710 >>16933656 いみはだいたいおなじじゃないのかな

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 05:14:28 2017 No.16933749 >>16928438 Just use English language learning as a comparison then Early on you learn to read signs, then children's books and websites, then the newspaper, but after that it's not about vocab anymore and more about "so here's Moby-Dick and Gatsby".

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 05:31:07 2017 No.16933788 僕は自分の分際を思い出した。気をつけてないとね

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 05:51:02 2017 No.16933839 >>16933788 ごめんねおにいちゃんがなにをいいたいのかわからなかったはえぎわがこうたい？

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 06:06:14 2017 No.16933884 侠気 What's more common きょうき or おとこぎ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 06:11:40 2017 No.16933904 >>16933884 男気

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 06:35:45 2017 No.16933961 >kimi no na WA

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 07:27:36 2017 No.16934138 >>16933249 Just use Waterfox instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 07:32:28 2017 No.16934163 >>16930639 Is there anything in rikaisama that yomichan can't do? It can connect to Anki, play audio and use EPWING dictionaries, which is enough for me

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 07:44:11 2017 No.16934221 >>16933318 Try the older ithvnr version (first page of thread).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 07:56:05 2017 No.16934278 >>16934163 yeah, mousehover

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 08:06:22 2017 No.16934322 >>16934221 Ah, that one works thankfully. Wonder why the newer one doesn't though. I definitely have the Visual C++ 2015 redistributable installed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 08:10:53 2017 No.16934339 >>16934278 There's a setting for that. Or rather if you disable the middle mouse button or shift key options it switches to mouseover

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 09:12:00 2017 No.16934620 File: 35 KB, 354x417, 杯.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 蘇る黄泉返る

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 09:39:20 2017 No.16934724 Is the amphetaNEET meme going to rise again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 10:53:15 2017 No.16935080 >>16933056 It still works properly...... For now......

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 11:09:10 2017 No.16935155 >>16933056 It will stop working with Firefox 57 (November this year)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 11:23:08 2017 No.16935217 File: 88 KB, 602x351, 初恋.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anki-chan was a slut all along

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 11:39:33 2017 No.16935295 >>16935217 Anki-chan is pure! You take that back!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 11:44:08 2017 No.16935316 >>16928252 >しりたいの、彼のこと？ >いや、そうでもない。あくまでも話の流れから理由の一つにしたまでだ can someone help me understand what this >にしたまで< part exactly means? i can't see any fitting grammar point in the dojg

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 11:49:34 2017 No.16935336 >>16935316 するだけ　＝　するまでしただけ　＝　したまで >あくまでも話の流れから理由の一つにしただけだ、何か問題があるか？ Can you understand this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 12:29:14 2017 No.16935547 >>16933068 You're an idiot is what you are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 12:29:59 2017 No.16935549 >>16935547 Pretty sure responding to an 11 hour old post about making it makes you the idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 12:33:05 2017 No.16935570 >>16935549 This isn't reddit, retard. There is nothing wrong with replying to old posts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 12:33:43 2017 No.16935574 >>16935570 No but there is something wrong with being an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 12:48:36 2017 No.16935638 >>16933551 >I don't know if Rikaisama works under Palemoon I haven't tested everything but the basic functionality seems to work fine. Glad I finally switched, Firefox runs like shit in comparison

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 12:52:03 2017 No.16935656 >>16935638 I just use 64-bit firefox. Good performance, no need to use a browser made by someone that doesn't understand basic computer security. Eventually I'll have to switch to seamonkey, but that can wait till they have build infrastructure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:10:39 2017 No.16935754 If I'm a poorfag with a hand-me-down iphone, is it worth paying $25 for anki on it? Is there a free alternative that isn't shit or should I just suck it up and buy it?

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:19:52 2017 No.16935815

>>16935754
The free alternative is AnkiWeb, which is shit but acceptable enough that I use it every day (in conjunction with the PC version). Would probably be worth $25 for a little extra convenience with something you're going to use every day though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:31:24 2017 No.16935875 >>16935815 Alright, thanks. I'll use the free one to start and get the $25 one after bills are paid.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:34:26 2017 No.16935890

>>16935754
Absolutely. 25 bucks really isn't that much. It does give you a whole lot more options than AnkiWeb though. Your cards are actually stored on your device so you won't have to struggle with internet if you're on the move somewhere. You also have a lot more options and a few custom features. Not to mention that you actually have official support for the iPhone app, the android version is upkept by some other company. Personally I also feel it's worth supporting a software that I literally use every day.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:40:33 2017 No.16935913

>>16935890
>Not to mention that you actually have official support for the iPhone app, the android version is upkept by some other company.
It's open source software and there is no company. There isn't even a company "in name only". Ankidroid support is better than Anki desktop support in my experience though. Can't speak for the paid app.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:43:36 2017 No.16935934 File: 10 KB, 667x95, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16935913 Ah, I didn't know who works on the android app so I just said it was a company without thinking about it. For the paid app, the creator does say this on his website.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:45:01 2017 No.16935942 >>16935934 That was also written a while ago. Today ankidroid is much more polished than it was at that time, and the ankidroid contributors churn out releases faster.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:46:32 2017 No.16935949 File: 1.60 MB, 1280x720, magicha_2017-04-27_20-33-08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heavy recommendation for Magical Charming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:47:18 2017 No.16935954 >>16935949 It's just a meh moege.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:48:02 2017 No.16935956 >>16935954 It's better than meh. Not like a god game, just good.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:48:30 2017 No.16935961

>>16935942
Could be, I haven't tried the android version to be honest as I only have an iPhone.
It all works smoothly though, syncing, editing and reviewing. Never had any problems with it and I am honestly not sure what else you'd want to improve. Suppose it's nice getting it for free but if you only have an iPhone it's worth the 25 bucks investment. It's Anki on your phone. What else should it be?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:49:38 2017 No.16935966 >>16935961 Yeah no worries I'm just trying to keep things neutral on my end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:50:25 2017 No.16935971 >>16935954 A "meh" grade moege would be like https://vndb.org/v11381 . Magicha is firmly in a category one or two rating levels above that. Though just like anon says, it's definitely not a kamige.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:57:10 2017 No.16935993 >>16935971 I don't know that game. The point is it's not worth playing with the myriad of other, strictly superior options available.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 13:58:24 2017 No.16935999 >>16935993 It's not about superior, it's about compelling. Magicha is super compelling for me, so I wanted to recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:00:45 2017 No.16936010 >>16933298 A mexican conbini? bless

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:09:21 2017 No.16936053 >>16935999 Ok, and I wanted to make a post telling people not to take the blind recommendation expecting something great and regretting it later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:10:13 2017 No.16936056 >>16936053 Yeah, that's fine. I just didn't like the word meh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:15:13 2017 No.16936074 >>16933629 Yet you're an N3 subhuman.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:29:10 2017 No.16936110 >>16935966 iPhone illiterate here. Isn't there a download link available somewhere for the iPhone, in the same way that android users can download and install apk outside the store?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:46:02 2017 No.16936157 >>16936110 No, you dumb consumerist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:48:51 2017 No.16936168 File: 42 KB, 480x272, 2017-04-24 16-13-24.mpg_snapshot_16.25_[2017.04.28_11.41.55].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do they mean by 写真を押さえ？ Does it mean to submit photos?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:50:54 2017 No.16936177 >>16936168 its something i wish i could do to most of the posts itt

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 14:58:00 2017 No.16936203

>>16936110
If your get your device jailbroken, but there is the danger of bricking your device and nulling warranty if it's discovered. You can also no longer update your iPhone as any changes to the firmware will result in the jailbreak and all things you did with it disappearing. This may lead to security errors and persisting bugs. Still, it might be worth it if you just want to get free apps. You'll also have a lot of other customization options, I think it makes the iPhone a lot more versatile, but it really just depends on your needs.

On a side note: I thought about mining a lot of Japanese songs and just adding them to a playlist which I'll play when I have listening time. Then I have some comprehensible audible input.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:01:35 2017 No.16936218 >>16936177 Archive them and cherish them for your whole life because we're you're only friends?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:03:06 2017 No.16936223 File: 10 KB, 440x513, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16936218

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:10:27 2017 No.16936252 What's the point of passive verbs

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:11:05 2017 No.16936253 >>16936252 Passive verbs are used when needed

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:11:38 2017 No.16936256 >>16936223 放射脳野郎 >>16936252 to be used with the pronoun boku

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:13:46 2017 No.16936266
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I'll stop trying to remember the keywords in KKLC.

Just drawing the Kanji is smarter.

Remembering keywords sure is a lot of work. I don't want to work a lot.

I want to be able to write but the keywords are stupid and learning from words only is too hard.

I'll just use the keyword and only Kana vocabulary as a crutch.

That's how I'll do it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:14:35 2017 No.16936271 >>16936266 おｋがｍば

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:14:42 2017 No.16936272 >>16936266 But the words are the actual japanese. The writing is just an incidental thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:27:59 2017 No.16936306 猫背はどうやって治すのか

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:29:50 2017 No.16936312 >>16936266 I'm following the RTK, but while learning the readings and some vocab, as I explained here >>16930178 I've been doing well, I think.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:32:44 2017 No.16936321 >>16936306 生活変更

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:33:36 2017 No.16936326 >>16936272 He's talking about the kanji keywords (like "surplus" for 剰), not the actual Japanese words.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:34:51 2017 No.16936329

>>16936312
Hey.

Don't you come at me with that RTK bullshit. I'm only going through KKLC because I want to learn writing Kanji one by one in a sensible order. I don't deal with that mnemonic jokery, alright my family? I'm learning 20 words from core, 15 words from Kodansha and a variable amount from my mining deck EVERY DAY, while engaging as much as possible in japanese media. Who the hell even learns readings? How retarded is that? Sorry man, I was just cuteposting earlier, pretending to be the light headed baby (and I am a bit) but I am really not in that "remembering le keywords" stage, ok?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:35:12 2017 No.16936331 >>16936326 >I want to be able to write but the keywords are stupid and learning from words only is too hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:36:15 2017 No.16936334 >>16936331 My bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:36:32 2017 No.16936336 >>16936321 それはあんまりできないなほかの方法なんてありませんか

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:38:31 2017 No.16936340

>>16936329
I don't see why you would learn to write at the same time as using a shared vocab deck and mining. It's no surprise your load is annoyingly high. KKLC isn't even really designed to teach you how to write, it's more like it's designed to trick people that only want to learn "kanji' into learning words as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:39:26 2017 No.16936342 >>16936336 精神変更

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:43:11 2017 No.16936355

>>16936340
I find the words to be useful, the readings are varied and give an excellent base to learn other words with same Kanji from.
KKLC does seem to want you to write all the Kanji and I should be able to write and reproduce all Kanji from memory if I merely follow the recall cards. The problem just is that sometime's I may know the Kanji but I'm not getting enough information from the flashcard to know what Kanji is meant, which mostly has to do with the confusing keywords that are used. I already mentioned the order the Kanji are introduced in, which is excellent. KKLC introduces a component and follows up with a few related Kanji, instantly making you see the differences and avoiding the possibility of you getting them mixed up in the wild.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:44:41 2017 No.16936364 File: 46 KB, 326x189, ボラギノール.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16936266

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:46:17 2017 No.16936375
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>>16936329
I'm not doing mnemonics either, I'm just following its order.
Our method is not that different, then. I also have a mining deck, I have core for vocab, and use some Japanese media.
Pic related is my "RTK deck" (as I had explained, not really RTK, only the order).

Maybe it's like this anon >>16936340 is saying, and your load is just too high.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:46:29 2017 No.16936377

>>16936355
KKLC does seem to want you to write, but that's because it doesn't expect you to be memorizing vocabulary outside of it. If you're already memorizing vocabulary outside of KKLC and don't have any issues, why are you bothering to write?

The writing is there as a last resort for people with undiagnosed partial amnesia. You can certainly do KKLC without the writing part.

The vocab, and to a lesser extent, the keywords and readings, are the information in KKLC that's actually somehow useful to literacy. Writing isn't.

>KKLC does seem to want you to write all the Kanji and I should be able to write and reproduce all Kanji from memory if I merely follow the recall cards. The problem just is that sometime's I may know the Kanji but I'm not getting enough information from the flashcard to know what Kanji is meant, which mostly has to do with the confusing keywords that are used.

The problem here is you're doing some shitty deck instead of the book.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:50:30 2017 No.16936393
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>>16936355
>KKLC does seem to want you to write all the Kanji and I should be able to write and reproduce all Kanji from memory if I merely follow the recall cards.
Basically, KKLC's data is not designed for recall training. It's designed for recognition/recollection training.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:55:32 2017 No.16936412

>>16936377
>Writing isn't.
Maybe not. I find it does help me see Kanji better, but the main reason I'm doing it is because I want to be capable of writing. It doesn't have that much to do with the road to fluency.

>The problem here is you're doing some shitty deck instead of the book.
Actually I'm doing both. It's just that the explanations are kind of bad. I mean it kind of works but I now definitely made the decision to quit remembering key words and put Kana indicators on the front. This should not only reduce my workload, it will also make me not have to remember useless information like they keywords (which really are not that useful).

>>16936375
Sorry about my earlier post, I wanted to be needlessly aggressive for comedic effect. I simply don't think it's that useful having Kanji on the front and guessing the keyword as it's essentially useless information. If there is a word that has the same meaning, you remember the word. If there isn't, then the keyword is pointless. My main goal is learning to write and reproduce from memory.

>>16936393
It doesn't really matter what it is designed for. The advice is for the physical book, I use the PDF file. In the end you have to ask yourself if it makes sense to have a Keyword or (how I'm now going to do it) Kana indicators on the front and reproducing the Kanji.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 15:58:00 2017 No.16936417 >>16936412 >It doesn't really matter what it is designed for. It does. You complained about the keywords being obtuse for recall. That's because they're not meant for recall. 1+1=2 and you're using KKLC in a way it's not meant to be used.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:00:54 2017 No.16936427 >trying to decipher japanese onomatopoeia I don't understand the square root of fuck about any of this, it doesn't make the slightest sense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:02:46 2017 No.16936432 >>16936427 Stop worrying about onomatopoeia when you're clearly below N3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:06:09 2017 No.16936441 >>16936432 You should stop masturbating to children first. It's not right!

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:13:18 2017 No.16936465

>>16936412
>I simply don't think it's that useful having Kanji on the front and guessing the keyword as it's essentially useless information.
Not that anon, but I used KKLC for recall training (Anki Kanji->Keyword recall cards) and found it very useful. The keywords serve the dual role of rough guide to the meaning of the words the kanji appears in, and tool to avoid confusing similar looking Kanji. Both these features helped me enormously in quickly and reliably acquiring new vocabulary.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:19:41 2017 No.16936488 >>16936427 http://thejadednetwork.com/sfx/

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:21:00 2017 No.16936495

Is there a way to tell a godan verb that has been conjugated into the potential form from the intransitive ichidan form of the same base word other than context, or is it just an inherent vagueness of the language without proper context?

for example 売る and 売れる.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:24:36 2017 No.16936512 >>16936495 Yeah, you'd have to learn japanese first though

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:27:31 2017 No.16936523 >>16936465 >I used KKLC for recall training (Anki Kanji->Keyword recall cards) "Recall" means to go from something known to something unknown, so what you did would be "recognition" instead (going from something unknown to something known).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:28:22 2017 No.16936531 >>16936512 I think that's what he's trying to do

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:33:18 2017 No.16936552 >>16936523 Thanks. I actually specified what I did in brackets because I wasn't sure I was using the correct term.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:33:29 2017 No.16936555 >>16936495 They're literally the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:33:44 2017 No.16936557 >>16935949 How would you rate the difficulty? Any particularly tricky aspects to it?

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:34:59 2017 No.16936567

>>16936557
I don't know, I accidentally graduated from "absolute beginner" hell (by reading a lot) so I can't really judge the difficulty of things. If anything's tricky, it's figuring out the readings of words I don't know in the narration or the protag's dialogue, but that's a universal problem at my skill level.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:38:07 2017 No.16936582

>>16929041
That's fine but if you want to learn Japanese to play Visual Novels/Games you should try another deck, not because Core6K is bad in fact in encompasses plenty of material but the material you want to learn is very far deep into the deck, you wouldn't be learning cool anime terms until you're very deep into it even 1000 cards into it and yo're still doing mostly business terms.
If you finish it you will ended up learning 2000 Kanji though.
Also you will probably get boring at the 1000 card mark anyway which is the perfect point to start tackling reading.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:46:47 2017 No.16936627

Litterature feels better to read in Japanese for some reason.
Am I just a language hipster or does Japanese have a certain "flow" to the way their litterature is.
I can see pictures in my mind when I read in Japanese, but when I read in english I only focus on subject matter.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:49:42 2017 No.16936640

>>16936266
Sissy. I'm 180 kanji from finishing KKLC without using any mnemonics.

How are you even going to keep track of which kanji is which without having a keyword/meaning to associate them with? The keywords aren't just poof'd out of thin air, you know. The kanji do actually have meanings, and it helps to know them since they usually appear in words related to their meanings.

If you're struggling, maybe your problem if that you're going too fast. Try just doing 20 a day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:50:08 2017 No.16936642 ゲスの極み乙女 song is called 両成敗いいじゃない. That's grammatically wrong right? Is grammar just a meme in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:51:18 2017 No.16936646 >>16936642 じゃない isn't literally だ.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:52:29 2017 No.16936654 >>16936642 Please don't post until you've read Tae Kim.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:53:51 2017 No.16936663 >>16936642 The answer to your question is found in the Essential Grammar section of Tae Kim's Grammar Guide.

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:55:12 2017 No.16936668

>>16936627
Nothing weird about that. In fact it would be weird if you liked both languages exactly equally.

Not only is the writing style different, e.g. while third person past tense is the "norm" in English writing, Japanese writers don't really care for that. They mostly write in first person present tense, but swapping tenses and perspectives even in the same paragraph isn't unheard of. Another big one is the writing culture. I like English prose but I hate the current publishing industry in the West which doesn't foster talent at all. Japan's is much more interesting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:58:20 2017 No.16936678 >>16936654 Tae Kim says いくないです tho

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:59:26 2017 No.16936685 >>16936678 My bad よくないです

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 16:59:48 2017 No.16936687

>>16936678
All of tae kim is basic grammar. You will have many, many questions like this until you finish his guide, because he can only make certain corrections about what's valid after he introduces the other basic grammar necessary to understand why.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:02:11 2017 No.16936694 Why is ヰ so cool?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:02:51 2017 No.16936697 >>16936627 Which authors do you like?

>>	Maki Fri Apr 28 17:35:23 2017 No.16936839 >tfw if i spent as much time learning japanese as i did a real marketable hobby id probably be a millionaire

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:41:06 2017 No.16936858 >>16936839 Why do you keep posting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:41:41 2017 No.16936861 >>16936839 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:46:10 2017 No.16936873 I'm going to give Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course a try and I want to ask what is a good PDF reader to use?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:46:48 2017 No.16936875 >>16936873 evince

>>	Maki Fri Apr 28 17:47:33 2017 No.16936878 >>16936858 lonely and autistic and pathetic ._. >>16936861 my choices

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:49:44 2017 No.16936889 >>16936878 How many times did you get banned or warned? Stop posting already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:50:13 2017 No.16936892 >>16936889 He probably doesn't even see the ban/warning message, he has a purely dynamic IP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:51:11 2017 No.16936896 maybe if you were learning japanese you wouldnt give a shit get back to your flashcards chitlins

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:53:03 2017 No.16936905 >>16936896 The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

>>	Maki Fri Apr 28 17:53:55 2017 No.16936909 >>16936889 Im already permabanned in general so i just ban evade on instinct didnt even know they banned me ._.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:54:34 2017 No.16936913 >>16936909 >>16936892 Amazing, I was right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 17:54:54 2017 No.16936916 >>16936905 you should reread your post and consider it before posting next time

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 18:41:09 2017 No.16937062 File: 65 KB, 338x499, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16936697 雅也山口狂てるな奴

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 20:38:11 2017 No.16937440 >>16936694 Finally someone who gets it I fucking love that thing

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 20:48:26 2017 No.16937462 >>16936074 N1 > N2 > N5 > N4 >>>>>>> feces > N3

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 21:00:16 2017 No.16937499 >>16936694 均整でしょう

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 21:04:05 2017 No.16937506 >わゐうゑを >ワヰウヱヲどっちがかっこいい？

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 22:35:22 2017 No.16937720 Could anyone explain 爆ギレto me? I'm sniffing around, but I can't seem to find anything. The context is a conversation wondering about someone's taste in music, the sentence is "爆ギレオーラを察知". Thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 22:57:56 2017 No.16937775 File: 418 KB, 600x802, 1492654540001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16935656 >[Pale Moon is] made by someone that doesn't understand basic computer security. What are you basing this on? Did something happen?

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:03:01 2017 No.16937791

>>16937775
The dev manually backports "applicable" security patches rather than attempting to maintain as similar a codebase as possible to firefox and merging all changes. This is a recipe for disaster. The dev also blocks people on twitter if they ask what their security program is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:06:17 2017 No.16937798 >>16937720 爆切れ is some dumb teeny bopper slang no one uses to say wiggin out

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:09:38 2017 No.16937807

>>16937791
>The dev manually backports "applicable" security patches rather than attempting to maintain as similar a codebase as possible to firefox and merging all changes. This is a recipe for disaster.
Why is it a recipe for disaster? If a security patch covers an exploit that doesn't effect Pale Moon, then there's no reason to apply it Pale Moon, right?

>The dev also blocks people on twitter if they ask what their security program is.
Okay, that's a bit worrying.

Well, if Pale Moon is a no-go, then I don't know what possible solution there is. If Rikaisama's functionality can't be replicated under the new add-on API, then even the ESR release of Firefox would only buy you 6 months or so before it got broken on there too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:10:32 2017 No.16937811 i guess its time to stop relying on your baby crutches and learn some japanese huh

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:12:59 2017 No.16937821

>>16937807
>Why is it a recipe for disaster? If a security patch covers an exploit that doesn't effect Pale Moon, then there's no reason to apply it Pale Moon, right?
The reason is that a single person is always bad at judging whether a security patch is applicable. The easiest way to prove that it is is to make a proof of concept, but many of the PoCs meant for firefox don't work in pale moon, even though the underlying security issue is still there. And when it comes to firefox security issues that the dev doesn't consider applicable because he can't be bothered to figure out how they can be exploited:

>These are things that are obviously vulnerable and need to be fixed (such as missing bound checks in the XML parser).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:13:53 2017 No.16937824 >>16937811 your anger over us using fast dictionary lookup is pretty sad dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:14:07 2017 No.16937825 >mining new words more than I could consume them Anki will forever be with me for the rest of my life huh?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:14:30 2017 No.16937827 >>16937824 what anger i just made 1 post

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:20:12 2017 No.16937846

>>16937821
Well, fug. Thanks for explaining.

I guess all we can do is hope someone competent forks Firefox and keeps the current add-on API alive in that case. Or Mozilla change their minds about the switch, but I can't see that happening.

I really don't know what Mozilla are thinking. They keep making Firefox more and more like Google Chrome... If people wanted Google Chrome, they would use Google Chrome - The reason people are still using Firefox is because it ISN'T Google Chrome. Why is this so hard for them to understand? And how can they be so out of touch with their own userbase?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:33:34 2017 No.16937888 File: 68 KB, 536x623, 1481300548157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Surely there must be at least one capable code monkey here who can port Rikai over to Chrome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:35:07 2017 No.16937897 >>16937846 >I really don't know what Mozilla are thinking. They keep making Firefox more and more like Google Chrome.. Chrome is the new gold standard. Just like how the iPhone changed phones forever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:35:24 2017 No.16937900 >>16937888 We don't use the botnet, sorry

Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:36:00 2017 No.16937902

>>16937888
There's already a rikai on chrome, the problem is it's bad. And there are alternatives to rikai for chrome too, the problem is they're also bad. What we really need is a program that eliminates the need for a browser+clipboardgrabber+rikai setup in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:39:08 2017 No.16937911 >>16937902 Yep, a program that eliminates the need for a browser altogether would be the ultimate solution tho it would pain me to see less chrome fags squirming with rage

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:46:37 2017 No.16937922 >>16937825 It may not seem like it at the start, but the Japanese language actually has a finite number of words, so your backlog will go down eventually. Actually you should enjoy the backlog while you can, it's convenient in a lot of ways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:48:38 2017 No.16937927 File: 80 KB, 800x800, s-l1600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone please translate this shirt for me? A friend got is for me as a gift, but I want make sure it actually says what they claim it does before wearing it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:49:55 2017 No.16937932 >>16937927 働いたら負け

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 28 23:55:34 2017 No.16937942 >>16937927 It says "baka gaijin" (note how the model has blonde hair). Don't wear it in Japan unless you want people to laugh at you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:01:47 2017 No.16937957 >>16937922 >the Japanese language actually has a finite number of words What do you define to be a "word"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:07:34 2017 No.16937970 File: 68 KB, 120x200, 1460420146009[4].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When can I get off this ride? I made it to over 6000 vocab (sentence) cards in Anki and I don't think I can read shit. Please hold my hand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:07:52 2017 No.16937972 >>16937957 Whatever you like, they're still finite, and of course you don't even have to bother with all of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:09:18 2017 No.16937977 >>16937970 Even if you do CorePLUS, you will still find words you don't know. Just read and mine. If you hate looking up words, read a VN with a text-hooker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:09:24 2017 No.16937978 >>16937970 Wtf is a "vocab (sentence) card"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:10:40 2017 No.16937980 >>16937978 I have sentences on the front with a single new word. I'm wondering if that is burning me out -- reading the same sentences over and over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:11:10 2017 No.16937983 >>16937980 It's not just burning you out, it's also making you associate the sentence with the word

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:11:24 2017 No.16937984 >>16937972 >Whatever you like, they're still finite I could say that they are infinite, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:11:48 2017 No.16937985 This body was made of infinite words.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:13:42 2017 No.16937990 >>16937983 Words usually end up in other sentences though... I don't think it's that big of a detriment; if only there was some way to test that.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:16:53 2017 No.16937996
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>>16937990
Just fucking start reading. You will never learn and progress if you don't step out of your comfort zone.

I think your problem is that you're afraid of failure, but making mistakes and getting corrected is an essential part of the learning process.

Stop giving yourself excuses and READ.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:22:13 2017 No.16938001

Given that new words are being coined constantly, I would say that in theory there is only a finite number of words in existence at any given time, but that in practice there is an infinite number of words because for any one person to know absolutely all of the words in common usage in one language at any given time they would require extremely advanced technology to monitor every single word spoken or written by every single speaker of that language in real time, on top of already knowing every single word that had already been coined up until that time.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:22:42 2017 No.16938003

>>16937980
Stories are an extremely fucking powerful memory aid. If you put a sentence on the front of your card your brain will rely on that sentence to recall the relevant information, and you won't be able to trust your recall on it for any other context.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:27:53 2017 No.16938019 >>16937942 It says "you have no manners".

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:29:47 2017 No.16938025

>>16937996
ありがとうございます、カーフマン様
I suppose キノの旅 should be an okay starting point? Maybe.

>>16938003
I feel like the Anki card is there just there as a placeholder upon which you hang additional encounters of the word/phrase -- like planting a seed... and to tend to that seed, you need to read.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:29:49 2017 No.16938026 >>16938001 The definition of "word" alone should be sufficient to determine whether or not there are a finite amount of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:32:15 2017 No.16938037 >>16938026 A finite-length phrase made up of a finite number of finite-precision sounds with a meaning that can be conceived in a finite capacity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 00:47:39 2017 No.16938075 File: 124 KB, 800x600, stable returns.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 01:01:35 2017 No.16938109 >>16938025 キノの旅 is a good starting point. I started reading kino when I had like 1000 words memorized in core2k/6k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 01:48:14 2017 No.16938184 >>16938109 damm that sounds rough, i started it after about 3k matures in core 2/6k and still struggled heaps to start with the patterns emerge though

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 01:50:56 2017 No.16938187

I was looking at skypech and someone wrote this
>何歳の方でもかまわないので暇な方いませんか？

>あまり女性と話す機会に縁がなかったので練習も兼ねて･･･
What exactly does the second line mean? I don't really have a chance to talk to women so I'd like to practice? What does 兼ねて mean in this sentence? Or is he saying he's been practicing talking to them for a while?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 01:54:57 2017 No.16938191 >>16937970 You need to read to read, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:11:41 2017 No.16938331 >>16937888 >>16937902 What's wrong with Yomichan?

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:45:22 2017 No.16938418
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I'm wondering if I should add the Kanji or Kana variants of usually only kana words. Seems like it would do but I'm sure there is gonna be some language hipster who uses Kanji for everything it'd be nice to read that as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:47:13 2017 No.16938424 >>16938418 Dunno if you randomly attached an unrelated pic for no reason, but the kanji for that is very common. Anyways it doesn't hurt to do so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:49:49 2017 No.16938431 >>16938424 I've never read 貴方 as あんた and it doesn't even show up in my IME

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:57:09 2017 No.16938449 >>16938418 Yes you will need for when that one super special character in an LN starts using it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 03:57:44 2017 No.16938450 >>16938431 What kind of dogshit IME are you using? And what the fuck are you misreading it as, きほう? Because I don't think I've seen that once.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:00:39 2017 No.16938461 >>16938450 I think the issue is the short slangy version... 「あなた」じゃなくって、「あんた」でしょう

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:01:09 2017 No.16938463 >>16938450 Google I'm not well read or anything but I think normal people read it あなた

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:04:13 2017 No.16938476 >>16938463 They are the exact same word, one is slurred/casual. Why the fuck would you need to mine both of them? Just make a mental note.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:09:32 2017 No.16938490

>>16938476
To make sure I know both? I haven't read yet as I only arrived at the Addressing People part of Tae Kim but I just wondered if that version is ever written in Kanji. It seems like there is more than one word where derivatives use the same Kanji so either you just use the most standard one you try to guess from the situation? I don't know. And not like it will take a lot of effort to mine.
Oh and you were replying to another anon anyway. I made the original post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:21:59 2017 No.16938520 ミサイルが着弾しそうなときどこに逃げこんだらいいの？

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:23:49 2017 No.16938527 >>16938520 はあ？安全場所、ボケ。

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:25:59 2017 No.16938530 >>16938527 たけやぶ？

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:27:10 2017 No.16938533 >>16938520 Uhhh, can I blame the same font size for reading that as 爆弾? ... Thanks for the new easy word, anon. :3

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:27:40 2017 No.16938536
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I signed up for this site to see if there are free podcasts or something I could listen to on the go and this is the first thing they show me when I activated my account.

Somehow I feel like I won't find what I'm searching for here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:28:40 2017 No.16938538 >tfw you read the sentence you had trouble with months ago without problems / rikai now バブルの乱痴気騒ぎの幕が厳かに引かれて後、寄せては返す経済的好調不調の浪を、東堂さんは錦鯉たちと共に、手に鰭を取って果敢に乗り切っていたのですが、今年になって続けざまに厄介事に見舞われました。

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:29:48 2017 No.16938540 >>16938530 いや、ころんだったら、竹の子に刺された。安全ではない、でしょう？

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:31:11 2017 No.16938543 >>16938536 Oh my -- what terrible marketing. I've been listening to the stuff we have in the CoR. Some of it is decent, I think. I started when I knew nothing and it was easy enough to listen while preparing food, cleaning, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:34:15 2017 No.16938550 >>16938540 >もし転んで竹槍に貫かれたら危ないでしょう？ころんだらだいたいいたい。いいね？

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:35:09 2017 No.16938553 >>16938543 Ah, thanks. I didn't even think of checking there. I'll do that than rather bothering with that site.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:35:29 2017 No.16938554

>>16938490
I typically learn the kanji variant if:
1. it's relatively easy to remember due to simplicity/phonetic radicals/mnemonics
2. I saw it in the wild in a non-quiz context

just be careful and try not to turn into the equivalent of an ESL who knows what "e.g." stands for but still can't read a newspaper

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:41:46 2017 No.16938566 Why is there 蒲 in 蒲焼き? It's just a plant that has nothing to do with the fish dish, no?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 04:44:06 2017 No.16938572 >>16938566 The resemblance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 05:01:06 2017 No.16938597 Impressing obaasans with my kanji feels good

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 05:02:10 2017 No.16938601

I'm almost "done" with my mining deck after starting it about 8 months ago. By that I mean I'm almost through the unseen card backlog which has never dropped below 100 before. The realization that I could go back to any work I've read in the past and have to look up zero words feels nice. Also learning rare words has become fun rather than annoying like in the beginning

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 05:07:21 2017 No.16938606 File: 1.60 MB, 1500x1017, がま.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16938566 >「たべもの」の蒲焼き串をさして焼く調理法だよたんぼに生えてる「がま」に似てるからだねあてじなのかな？

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 05:12:43 2017 No.16938613 >>16938418 May as well learn the kanji version if the kanji are from the jouyou or jinmeiyou sets. For hyougai kanji, do as you wish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 05:17:17 2017 No.16938622 >>16938533 blame(v)は爆裂か炸裂 bomb(v)は爆発か爆撃 bomb(n)は爆弾か爆発物

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:04:39 2017 No.16938691 >>16938554 >just be careful and try not to turn into the equivalent of an ESL who knows what "e.g." stands for but still can't read a newspaper It would be rather cruel fate to turn into a scarecrow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:10:23 2017 No.16938696 >>16937902 If Firefox goes completely down the shitter and Chrome ends up being better for Japanese learners, I'll use Yomichan. It looks the same as Rikaisama but on Chrome, which I don't want to use. http://forum.koohii.com/thread-13742.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:37:12 2017 No.16938768 角かく角かど角つの What's the point of having so many Kanji if they mean a ton different things just by themselves. This is kind of annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:42:06 2017 No.16938788 Is there any difference in meaning or usage between 聞く and 訊く?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:42:43 2017 No.16938794 Could someone explain to me what the わ in そのわに is exactly? Source is a show I'm watching but even then I know I've heard it a lot before. Rough translation would be "on top of this" or "in the midst of this" or "upon this". Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:43:55 2017 No.16938798 >>16938794 That's not a sentence, nor is it a source.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:48:03 2017 No.16938822 >>16938794 そのわに that is an alligator

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 06:49:43 2017 No.16938831 >>16938794 you're welcome!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 07:05:17 2017 No.16938884 >>16938798 >>16938822 >>16938831 As usual depressed deepshits venting their malaise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 07:15:00 2017 No.16938923 >>16938418 >あんた >貴方間違えているじゃないか。貴方 : "あなた"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 07:26:13 2017 No.16938957 >>16938794 sure you heard that right? Could be 場.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 08:06:45 2017 No.16939036 >>16937970 You need sentences that are harder than Core's piss easy ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 08:18:16 2017 No.16939068 File: 86 KB, 450x468, 仲間の輪.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16938794 >その輪（環）に人々の間に話題の中に環境の中に

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 08:39:20 2017 No.16939122 File: 52 KB, 460x230, ちゅうに.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16939068 そっちのわだと > 　　わ >その輪廻にこう書いてあってほしいよ

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 09:57:24 2017 No.16939386 >>16937798 Thank you. One of the JPN threads I read through was basically just people say "Okay, who actually says this?" So that makes sense

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 09:58:35 2017 No.16939391

>>16939068
>>16939122
そうか
Google.jpから代替同じ答えをもらったらしい。ありがとう。

>>16938957
It wouldn't have fit the context I think, but indeed there was a little chance for 場 and 間 to be the answer there. The character was feeling ill and speaking as if exhausted so the わ sound wasn't that clear.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:01:58 2017 No.16939411 目がうずくあの少女に触れた時声が響いて、そのわに、崩れて落ちてしまいそうになった Dialogues for >>16938794 >>16939391.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:13:31 2017 No.16939458 >>16939411 Listen better.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:16:49 2017 No.16939470
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>>16928252
>highschool level
>40-45k words
Is this a joke? I'm expected to memorize between twenty to fourty-five THOUSAND words? Just to have a somewhat competent debate/conversation matching that of a fucking highschool student?

This is fucking baffling, like, complete sorcery. I doubt I have even a fraction of that number in my English vocabulary and I scored top in college.
Guess I'll just educate myself in easy European languages like German and Russian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:18:05 2017 No.16939477 >>16939470 Why do you pretend like this is your first post in the thread?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:21:01 2017 No.16939495 >>16939470 Fuck off, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:22:16 2017 No.16939502 >>16939458 Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:24:47 2017 No.16939515 >>16939502 That'd be a good idea for you with how bad your ears and brain are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:26:58 2017 No.16939527 you cant be mad at the posters in djt its like being mad at a dog who pee and poop on the carpet all you can do is try to be a better trainer

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:38:44 2017 No.16939572 >>16939527 Why do you keep posting? Nobody wants you here and you don't contribute to the thread in any way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:43:59 2017 No.16939593 >>16939572 someone just thanked me less than an hour ago why did you need to post that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:46:36 2017 No.16939608 >>16939477 I read broken retranslated words better than regular English, would Nip be a language for me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:46:46 2017 No.16939609 >>16939593 Stop making bad posts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:47:31 2017 No.16939610 >>16939609 youre the only one posting poorly here you stop

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:49:03 2017 No.16939616 >>16939527 Mad is too strong of a word, it's just sad. Are those people 20+? >>16939515 Quality reply, really original.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:49:48 2017 No.16939619 >>16939593 Considering you make about hundred posts per hour that ratio is pretty bad.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:55:48 2017 No.16939640 [DELETED]

>>16939616
age is just a number

i look at some of them like rescue dogs who have just suffered through years of hard times and maybe one day theyll come around

>>16939619
this statistic is wildly incorrect it would appear you have lost all grasp on reality so please take a break from posting permanently

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 10:59:32 2017 No.16939651 [DELETED]

>>16939640
Difference is rescue dogs are just dogs, in today's world they can't live without the help of others. DJT shitters are actually humans but disguised as dogs, refusing to function properly, being a burden to their family and having for sole purpose shitting on others online in attempt to heal their damaged beyond repair ego.

I rarely ever visit anymore but when I do this is the only sight I'm given to see around here. This is nothing more than sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:02:08 2017 No.16939662 >>16939651 That's a lot of projecting for you being simply too retarded to ask questions properly anon. Get psychological help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:07:03 2017 No.16939684 >>16939651 its not really that sad as long as you understand djt isnt a place to learn or learn how to learn japanese theres a reason animal control came and threw it in the jp animal shelter

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:08:51 2017 No.16939694 [DELETED]

>>16939662
"You're projecting" is only a shield you're using pretty much on a daily basis in order to avoid reality, we both know it.

I'm rather happy with my life so thank you but I'll pass on the advice. Have fun languishing in your hell hole and repeating the same routine over and over again with no hope in sight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:09:58 2017 No.16939703 File: 244 KB, 914x1249, 1488084528524.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whatever happened to taking it easy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:12:38 2017 No.16939715 File: 69 KB, 450x253, f36bf6e9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16939703 these lads seem to be on some kind of schedule it would appear i dont get it either

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:12:46 2017 No.16939717 >>16939703 Crossboarders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:15:37 2017 No.16939728 >>16939703 takin it hella easy atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXXblwqHBRw >>16939715 yea it seems something like wake up in moms house post all day and go to bed

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:16:38 2017 No.16939733 File: 658 KB, 1932x3723, kanji.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post kanji grids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:17:14 2017 No.16939736 >>16939733 How about you post how much you've read today instead, Ankidrone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:17:49 2017 No.16939744 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkJrLSyNHEc こちょこちょ

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:20:39 2017 No.16939755 [DELETED]

>>16939703

Don't worry I'm still taking it ez. Just read some of the legend of zelda Oot manga in bed, added a couple words to anki, reviewed for 16 minutes, and then I'm gonna finish up my reviews later tonight.

The only problem I'm encountering so far is that I don't have a pencil sharpener so I've been having to sharpen my pencil with a knife. Not very efficient.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:21:30 2017 No.16939759 >>16939733 Dates? >>16939736 See: >>16939703

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:27:24 2017 No.16939787 >>16939759 That's over roughly the last year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:31:08 2017 No.16939800 >>16939736 Nothing yet today, but that's why we drone. It makes reading so much easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:31:38 2017 No.16939804 What program should I use to look up the stroke order of kanji? Anki doesn't show this

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:33:02 2017 No.16939812 >>16939804 Jisho, you can also add stroke order diagrams to your Anki cards with this font: http://nihilist.org.uk/

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:33:34 2017 No.16939815 >>16939804 http://kanji.sljfaq.org/kanjivg.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:34:05 2017 No.16939817 File: 59 KB, 455x305, ポプテピピック_1_023.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it worth shelling out for the Anki app for iphones? I'm a poorfag stuck with an older iphone and I really fucking hate safari but I much prefer doing Anki on mobile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:34:46 2017 No.16939819 >>16939733 You don't really need that many Kanji though, do you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:35:46 2017 No.16939824 >>16939817 Please refer to >>16935754 and subsequent responses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:39:05 2017 No.16939832 >>16939812 >>16939815 thanks, this thread is really helpful

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:40:03 2017 No.16939834 >>16939824 どうも

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:41:05 2017 No.16939837 File: 146 KB, 483x1972, grid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16939733 Haven't done Anki or read anything in 9 months, so I probably forgot most of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:42:45 2017 No.16939847 >>16939733 普通に会話できますか君の肛門について教えろ

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 11:51:51 2017 No.16939888 >>16939847 >君の肛門について教えろきみによって普通の会話ですか

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:06:14 2017 No.16939945 肛門は誰でも持ってるから超普通だよ

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:07:46 2017 No.16939948 File: 11 KB, 778x159, 肛門.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16939819 Probably not. >>16939847 できないいい肛門だと思う

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:12:36 2017 No.16939956 How much Kanji is being used in the higher N levels? I tried a practice N5 test for fun, but the fact that almost everything was kana really really messed with me and I took longer to understand simple sentences than I usually do when reading manga.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:12:47 2017 No.16939957 File: 134 KB, 590x281, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i was stuck on this fucking panel for a solid 5 minutes i really should kill myself

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:17:18 2017 No.16939967 >>16939957 i mean when you dont know basic common use words because youre cramming kanji flashcards its no surprise this would trip anyone up so dont feel bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:18:47 2017 No.16939970 >>16939957 >mom and dad also have a mom and a dad >the one we're going to tomorrow is grandmother on my mother's side >so, for now, the one where we're going to buy, is the one of grandmother on my father's side maybe

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:19:16 2017 No.16939973 https://youtu.be/N4Z46GxZtd4 日本人本当にすごいや

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:19:44 2017 No.16939974 I wonder if it's just this one guy who has such an irrational aversion to Anki that he can't stop talking about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:26:24 2017 No.16940000 File: 266 KB, 628x3338, eee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16939819 3000 is a pretty comfy level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:26:36 2017 No.16940001 >>16939974 theres nothing irrational about it within the context of djt

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:28:54 2017 No.16940012 >>16940001 There is when the person you replied to didn't say anything about Anki or flashcards and the manga that panel is from is typically read by complete beginners. See: >>16939703

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:32:42 2017 No.16940022 [DELETED]

>>16940012
im taking it way easier than you trust me but also see how people have beefy kanji grids and still cant do anything with them

theres really nothing good you can say here though so try not to let me down with your next contribution to the noise

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:36:22 2017 No.16940033

friends, its my first time using anki, I have searched and youtubed around on how to use it but I kind of want to hear your layman term version of it, also what would you say are the most essential desk to use for both kanji and grammar? essentially i'm asking where do I start? a few friends recommended Kanji Damage, I have tried it but it sometimes tried too hard to be funny it ended up childish, should i continue?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:37:08 2017 No.16940035 >>16940033 Just read more.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:39:38 2017 No.16940045

>>16940033

Check the sticky.

>get the 2k/6k Deck for Anki
>personally I set steps to 1 1 10
>set as many new cards a day as you wanna do (don't overdo it)
>read TaeKim's Grammar guide or another guide on grammar
>don't put off reading actual manga for too long

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:39:51 2017 No.16940048

>>16940033
The five golden rules that will bring you Japanese mastery:
1. Do not do isolated kanji study or use kanji decks.
2. Do not do isolated grammar study or use grammar decks.
3. Do not do more than 20 new cards a day.
4. Once you have hit 1k-2k cards in the core2k6k deck, turn off new cards in it and make your own mining deck.
5. Read a lot.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:40:32 2017 No.16940054 [DELETED]

>>16940022
I've made 10 posts in the entire thread including this one. None of them were longer than 2 lines, part of the same pointless discussions that happen in every single thread without fail, or unfounded personal attacks. I'll take your word on that, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:41:25 2017 No.16940059 >>16940048 Those seem more like the rusty DJT half truths of Japanese mastery (except the last one).

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:41:43 2017 No.16940062

>>16940033
>friends
Also this >>16940035
Regarding kanji:
- If you like mnemonics, RTK is the way to go
- If you ilke mnemonics and also want to learn the readings and some vocab, use KKLC
- Else, just lear vocab and try to assimilate the kanji
Regarding grammar:
- Tae Kim is the advised reading material for beginners
- DoJG is the go-to resource for all levels of Japanese
Vocab:
- Read more

tl;dr: Read the sticky

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:43:48 2017 No.16940073 File: 585 B, 55x20, .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He is back!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:44:37 2017 No.16940076 >>16940062 Also, "read more" applies to everything. Once you can, start reading and make your own decks to learn on your own. Don't be afraid of not knowing the meaning of stuff. That's what dictionaries are for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:45:07 2017 No.16940078 >>16939967 what was the point of this reply?

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:46:52 2017 No.16940086

>>16940048
Rather than "rules" it's more like a priority list. You can do literally every single one of those at the same time if you wanted to.
But to get the most out of it in the shortest amount of time it is Tae Kim + start Core > reading > mining after 2k words learned in Core

Doing things in conjunction with the bare bones such as isolated Kanji/Grammar study does help you slide into reading/Core easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:49:46 2017 No.16940095 >>16940078 what was the point of this reply?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:50:11 2017 No.16940098 Another stupid question Can I somehow switch the [y] and [z] in the ms-IME? I have a german keyboard and I always make the mistake and then wonder why it doesn't show up like I want it to

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:50:23 2017 No.16940101

>>16940048
0. Do not take anything DJT says as objective truth and always think for yourself and reconsider whether a way to study is viable for you or not.

As long as you are learning, studying in the "wrong" way will still always be a better use of your time than arguing and/or getting stressed over whether you're studying in the most optimal way or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:52:33 2017 No.16940105 >>16940086 I think you should definitely start mining before you hit 2k in Core. I've posted about this myself last week, how I was learning words in core like 取引 and 経済 but didn't know a lot of daily words yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:53:16 2017 No.16940109 >>16940105 >取引 and 経済 but didn't know a lot of daily words yet. those are daily words though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:57:51 2017 No.16940127 >>16940109 天使 is more common

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:58:13 2017 No.16940129

>>16940109

Of course, but I meant daily words that'd be more useful to most Japanese learners. I'm sure people would rather learn all the colors first before being able to talk about economics and business transactions. Until that point in 2k you'll only have learned 赤い　黄色い　白い　黒い　青い, missing quite a few colours there, while 2k is teaching you words like 製造, 経営 and 株. 2k was sourced from newspapers and it's definitely useful to learn these words, but the order in which you're learning them can be not as helpful for new learners. That's why it's good to start with a mining deck early to augment your studies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:59:01 2017 No.16940133 >>16940127 Please don't start this shit again.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 12:59:18 2017 No.16940137

>>16940109
business world terminology is not very useful in day-to-day conversation. a beginner who knows less than 2000 words and only the most basic grammar is not going to be exposed to contexts where those words are used in quite a while

Core was partly made with people who need to learn Japanese for international business in mind

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:04:09 2017 No.16940166 >>16940048 You forgot anime

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:04:18 2017 No.16940167

>>16940129
>but I meant daily words that'd be more useful to most Japanese learners
of which obscure colors aren't part of. there's no need for more of them which are the same "subject" and easy to interfere from context. plus those words are constantly used in every single piece of media even things like school harems, nothing to do with "economy". that's like saying colors are only used when talking about high art.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:07:34 2017 No.16940179

>>16940167

Different priorities I guess. Personally I would've preferred to learn how to say at least purple and orange as well to cover secondary colors. Maybe color wasn't a good example, but it's the same with a lot of other words that I'll be much more likely to need. That's why I started a mining deck when I hit about 800 words in 2k. It's just a suggestion to newcomers who feel similarly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:08:23 2017 No.16940185 >>16940086 こういうスライディングになりますぜ　youtu.be/V5Xkg8FsVtY#t=109s

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:16:43 2017 No.16940214 >>16940185 きもい

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:27:20 2017 No.16940246

>>16940033
First of all, know that anki can't finish the job of installing a word into your memory, it can only kick start the process. Only consuming native content can finish the job of wiring all your memories up correctly, so that side should always take priority where possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:32:26 2017 No.16940264 >>16940246 I forgot to add, for this reason, don't worry too much if your recall of a word in anki is a bit slow or the meaning seems hazy or redundant; these kinds of deficiencies are best resolved in the wild rather than in an artificial program.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:37:19 2017 No.16940283

>doing anki
>really like the chick reading the cards
>especially the そば card, with the energetic title and then innocent example sentence
>suddenly モーター
>車のモーターを修理したぜ。
>this tomboyish reading along with the ぜ ending particle

My dick was not ready for this. I think I'm gonna keep on againing it just to hear her read it every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:37:54 2017 No.16940285 File: 31 KB, 770x470, Nicholas-770x470.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] なんて最高の日だ！

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:44:02 2017 No.16940302 File: 2.92 MB, 580x328, 1432228367782.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >あの女性向けASMR動画見てる気俺はゲイじゃない俺はゲイじゃない俺はゲイじゃない俺はゲイじゃない俺はゲイじゃない

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:47:35 2017 No.16940312 >>16938696 There's also spark reader, although it's alpha software. https://github.com/thatdude624/Spark-Reader

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 13:51:55 2017 No.16940330 File: 14 KB, 498x556, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16940098 I don't know if there's a better way but you can manually change the inputs in the conversion table.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:01:23 2017 No.16940354 File: 4 KB, 208x206, 1490347896543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stop posting the same question on both /jp/ and /int/ at the same time

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:20:28 2017 No.16940415 stop posting generallyお願いします

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:51:29 2017 No.16940531

>>16940285

This might seem like a dumb question, but in situation like this, where you've got that sentence:
>なんて最高の日だ！

How do I know whether to read it as にち or ひ?

I'm assuming by context that it should be にち since he's talking about what a great day it is in the movie. I'm thinking the same with 家 how do I know whether to read it as いえ or うち?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:53:49 2017 No.16940539 >>16940531 It's ひ. You need to read more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:54:11 2017 No.16940543 >>16940531 日 is generally read as ひ when it stands alone. ニチ is a chinese reading and therefore unlikely to stand alone as a word.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:56:44 2017 No.16940547 File: 40 KB, 373x430, Screenshot_2017-04-29_19-54-34.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16940543

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 14:57:47 2017 No.16940552 >>16940547 Meant >>16940531

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:08:25 2017 No.16940579 I have a question are >山下せんせいがあそこにいます。 and >あそこに山下せんせいがいます。 both gramatically correct sentences? do they have the exact same meaning or is there a nuance to them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:14:43 2017 No.16940589 >>16940579 Yes. >山下せんせいがあそこにいます。 (山下先生 is the focus) >あそこに山下せんせいがいます。 (あそこ is the focus)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:15:28 2017 No.16940592 >>16940589 cool thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:21:04 2017 No.16940606 >>16940589 >>16940592 Couldn't it also be あそこには山下先生がいます

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:27:17 2017 No.16940630 >>16940592 >>16940606 日本語って、意味さえ通じれば文法は適当でも大丈夫です。意味さえ通じれば、日本語の文法は適当でも大丈夫です。日本語の文法は、適当でも、意味さえ通じれば大丈夫です。文法が適当でも、日本語の意味さえ通じれば大丈夫です。大丈夫！文法が適当でも日本語の意味さえ通じれば！

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:46:57 2017 No.16940688 File: 8 KB, 246x232, 1415913434310s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16928252 How do you say "How do you say x in Japanese?" in Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:47:32 2017 No.16940690 >>16940688 I don't know. Cool picture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:55:00 2017 No.16940712 >>16940688 Xは日本語でなんといいますか？

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 15:59:38 2017 No.16940723 >>16940630 >大丈夫！文法が適当でも日本語の意味さえ通じれば！これが一番張り切ってそうからね

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:00:22 2017 No.16940727

>>16939744
I fucking hate you dude, I had already escaped the ASMR hell a while ago, then I saw somebody post those a few threads back and the addiction came back. Then you keep feeding with material.

>>16939956
N5-100
N4-300
N3-650
N2-1000
N1-2100

That's why if you want to take the tests don't focus exclusively in them. As you read and consume even with 2100 kanji you still encounter a fair amount of different kanji. By the time you're around 3000 you're set since there's barely anything "new" in the common written media, like this anon >>16940000 realized already.
If you delve into ancient stuff that even the nips don't bother with you'll wanna take the Kanji Kentei 1 approach and go all the way for the 6000 kanji that are/were at least used at some point in recent nip history.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:24:02 2017 No.16940799

Just reviewed the "Making Suggestions using the 「ば」 or 「たら」 conditional" section of tae kim at:
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/desire

and it made me think. Does the phrase 「話したくなければどう？」 translate to "How is it, to not want to talk?". Or does it just not make sense?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:26:04 2017 No.16940806 >>16940799 The closest natural translation is "How is it if you don't want to talk?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:28:26 2017 No.16940812 >>16940806 Thought is would be something like that. But it makes sense in japanese right? Like if you're asking how it is for someone to not want to talk? I know it's gramatically correct, but still.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:29:17 2017 No.16940814 >>16940812 Every language uses different patterns to convey the same meanings as other languages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:30:50 2017 No.16940818 >>16940814 thanks for the reassurance. This language really fries my brain sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:42:06 2017 No.16940834 話す気ありますか

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:47:09 2017 No.16940851 What does ということで mean? I hear it sometimes at the end of sentences.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 16:48:34 2017 No.16940853 >>16940851 wouldn't it be something like "that being the case."? I'm not entierly sure, still working on tae kim.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:15:36 2017 No.16940923 >>16940851 ということで

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:24:07 2017 No.16940949 ということでわたしはゲイ

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:26:30 2017 No.16940956 >>16940923 What did you mean by that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:28:39 2017 No.16940960 >>16940956 prolly means learn some fuckin words bitch such as the ones in that post

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:37:20 2017 No.16940993 >>16940851 Look up ということは and で (3) in DoJG. It's similar to ので.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:37:41 2017 No.16940994 >>16940956 that you are an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:41:09 2017 No.16941002 >>16940994 You are an bigger idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:44:44 2017 No.16941023 File: 334 KB, 610x623, 40d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16941002

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 17:46:10 2017 No.16941028 https://streamable.com/e3hbn

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 18:44:21 2017 No.16941282 >>16940302 >俺はゲイじゃない嘘だろう

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 18:48:19 2017 No.16941301 >https://djtguide.neocities.org/ >https://djt.neocities.org/ whats the difference

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 18:48:41 2017 No.16941302 >>16941301 YES!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 18:49:51 2017 No.16941307 >>16941301 One of them has the word "guide" on it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 18:50:50 2017 No.16941309 >>16941301 The second one is not updated anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 18:52:08 2017 No.16941318 >>16941301 One has cute lolis that I want to gently abuse

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 19:12:01 2017 No.16941386 Does anyone else switch between two vns so you don't tire out on one? Looking for something to pair with muv-luv right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 19:14:35 2017 No.16941395 >>16941386 Try Fata Morgana. It's kamige.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 19:19:44 2017 No.16941413 What happened to Sakubi? Is that guy rewriting it or something? He hasn't posted about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 19:20:18 2017 No.16941416 >>16941413 he got bullied after someone false flagged as him, so he stopped posting

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:16:47 2017 No.16941590

Add the card images to the card format: Hit "Browse" -> Navigate to the Core deck on the left sidebar -> Hit the "Cards..." button -> Add {{Sentence-Image}} under the
at the bottom of the "Back Template" section.

Does this fucking mean doing it one by one or am I misreading it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:19:15 2017 No.16941597 is there a mechanism for leeches to become unleeched or do I have to remove the tag manually?

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:20:32 2017 No.16941604

>>16928252
So because of some personal circumstances I ended up missing a few days of anki
For my first day back should I keep it at 20 words or less to ease back into it?
On that note
I'm going on a trip this summer for about a month
I have anki on my phone synced with my account, but I know there will be a lot of days I won't be able to study
Obviously I can't just stop for a month
Should I try to do it weekly?
Has anyone else been in a similar situation?
I'm about at 1000 cards in the core deck right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:21:19 2017 No.16941605 >>16941590 The card template is shared between all of the cards in the deck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:24:02 2017 No.16941613 >>16941604 Wake up early and do it every day. Or do it every week if you want, but that sounds more stressful to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:25:49 2017 No.16941620 >>16941605 I'm a fucking moron. Please rape my face as thanks.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:25:58 2017 No.16941621

>>16941613
Ok
There will be decent bit of travelling during the trip, but it will vary how much time I'll have for that each day
Would it be good to not add new cards on days when I don't have a lot of time, but study the old ones for as much time as I have?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:28:12 2017 No.16941630 >>16941386 How is muv-luv in terms of difficulty? I have it sitting on my computer, but haven't tried it yet

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:36:45 2017 No.16941655

>>16941604
you have several options, but what I would do if I were you is stop all new cards now and let your reviews shrink as much as possible between now and summer, because I would never consider doing anki during a vacation and a month would give me enough reviews to seriously consider quitting altogether

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:38:33 2017 No.16941664 >>16941655 I might try this then thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:39:48 2017 No.16941669 File: 122 KB, 400x400, 2478713.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16941620 Okay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:42:42 2017 No.16941685 File: 24 KB, 331x286, 1419652130758.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does your mining deck look like? I think I need to improve mine, can you please post yours to give me an idea how to do it better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:48:38 2017 No.16941719 File: 567 B, 121x103, idk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is this character

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:49:19 2017 No.16941725 Are you guys able to actually remember cards in anki by just looking at them and voicing them? I feel like I'm not getting any retention by doing this and I need something else to really drill the kanji in my head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:49:22 2017 No.16941726 >>16941719 さ in the future, look for kana handwriting variants on google

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:50:21 2017 No.16941731 >>16941725 Yes, but only if you can remember it. If you can't remember it, then obviously it only helps you learn them when you flip the card over and see what the back says.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:51:50 2017 No.16941741 >>16941726 That's not handwriting

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:52:50 2017 No.16941745 >>16941725 I remember them because I use Anki to review words I see while reading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:53:01 2017 No.16941747 >>16941741 no, but looking for handwriting variants will show typographic variants as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 20:58:30 2017 No.16941766 File: 47 KB, 539x554, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16941685 What does yours look like and what are you unsatisfied with?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:00:03 2017 No.16941771 >>16941725 Some people can, other people use a variety of techniques to make it easier. Just do whatever works for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:01:11 2017 No.16941775 >>16941766 not that anon, but do people typically record their own voice for mining decks? or is it just personal preference

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:02:55 2017 No.16941782 >>16941766 What dictionary are you using?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:03:12 2017 No.16941784 >>16941766 It pretty much looks like core and has no example sentence. Also I still need an English translation as I can't really comprehend J-J dictionary entries yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:06:28 2017 No.16941795 >>16941775 what would be the point of doing such a thing? >>16941782 goo辞書 >>16941784 J-E is not a big deal but >has no example sentence is a serious problem

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:08:41 2017 No.16941801 >>16941630 I can't tell you. I just torrented it on my work's wifi and plan on starting it Monday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:10:57 2017 No.16941805 >>16941395 https://vndb.org/v12402 >maid heroine I'm in. Anything I should know before starting either of these?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:15:33 2017 No.16941816 File: 66 KB, 546x618, 1466095795716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16941795 >goo辞書 Where'd you get it? I'd like to use it for EPWING2Anki. Didn't see it in CoR.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:19:51 2017 No.16941825 >>16941805 It's not actually the sort of game with heroine routes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:24:36 2017 No.16941841 >>16941816 goo辞書 content comes from the Daijisen dictionary. Look for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 21:26:30 2017 No.16941852 >>16941841 Cool, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 22:21:52 2017 No.16942027 Can someone explain the implications of -chama? Any resource I find describing it only gives a very basic description.

Anonymous Sat Apr 29 22:29:15 2017 No.16942053

How helpful is it for someone to translate lyrics (as opposed to, say, manga or LN or something)? On the one hand it seems useful because any translating is helpful, but on the other, lyrics (like poetry) don't have to always follow normal grammatical or syntax rules and conventions. Songs have more freedom in this sense than something with dialog or descriptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 22:33:35 2017 No.16942073 >>16942027 Baby-talk sama, like chan is to san. What more is there to say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 29 22:34:25 2017 No.16942079 >>16942027 In order of increasing informality: さん->ちゃん->たんさま->ちゃま->たま

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 00:24:50 2017 No.16942350 File: 9 KB, 893x70, w12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >there is no feminism in Japan guys

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 00:32:19 2017 No.16942367 File: 2.39 MB, 1222x2845, 1492939022190.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16942350 there is, its just the sensible kind

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 00:45:21 2017 No.16942397 >>16942367 >its just the sensible kind By definition impossible. Also, how is this related to learning Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 00:47:05 2017 No.16942404 >>16942397 in no way, ill delete it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 01:25:44 2017 No.16942476 400 of the mnemonics from KKLC: https://a.safe.moe/ikp83.xhtml

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 01:43:00 2017 No.16942512
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>>16941725
Depends on what you're going for. I'm sure you can remember words and semi-confidently find them in a text when you're reading something but you won't be able to reproduce a Kanji from memory and it is harder to notice that other words have the same Kanji, especially if it's one of the harder ones.

>>16941685
Pretty simple.
Get the example sentences plugin and make sure whatever you're importing with creates audio because I found it is so much easier to remember words if you also hear them.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 02:09:55 2017 No.16942576

>>16941725
I created my own spaced recall program that requires me to actively type things out. I did it specifically because I need active recall to remember things. Anki allegedly has that function, but I don't use it so I wouldn't know how to turn it on.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 02:16:17 2017 No.16942592

Does anyone have a download for the CD that comes with Japanese for Busy People, Book II (Third Ed.)?
I've lost my CD somewhere and I'd rather not buy a whole other copy of the textbook.
It seems to be completely unavailable online. There's a torrent for an OGG version of the CD, but that's for an old edition that doesn't match my book.
(I'll go to /wsr/ if that's the better place, just thought to ask here first)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:01:37 2017 No.16942703 Absolute fucking newfag here, and I'm sure I'm far from the first person to bitch How the fuck do I distinguish between シ and ツ when I'm writing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:02:12 2017 No.16942705 >>16942703 They go in different directions. Use a stroke order chart or you're not learning to write correctly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:04:16 2017 No.16942707 >>16942592 i think i have it, will check it for you anon when i get back

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:04:43 2017 No.16942710 >>16942703 I always found ソ＆ン to be the hard to distinguish ones... Anyways, シ has the left side aligned like しツ at the top like つ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:06:33 2017 No.16942713 >>16942710 そ is flat at the top like ソん goes from the top left to the bottom left like ン the actual first stroke is perpendicular to the direction the brush goes next

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:19:46 2017 No.16942742 >>16942705 >>16942710 >>16942713 ありがとう

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:29:08 2017 No.16942766 This seems really useful especially since using the djt kana teacher I was able grind all of the kana in like 2 hours with the active recall. even after a couple weeks of core 2k I still feel like I'm just looking at gibberish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:32:48 2017 No.16942772 >>16942703 Mental trick for me was that ツ has the two dashes aligned with both sides of a u like in 'tsu'. Simple trick that helped me when I first started kana.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 03:35:24 2017 No.16942781

>>16942703
I wasn't able to distinguish between them (and had no idea about the stroke order) until I already knew like 200 kanji. It wasn't a huge impediment because katakana words are otherwise very easy to remember.

it'll just click eventually, no need to get stressed over it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 05:21:19 2017 No.16943032 >>16942703 One looks up, another down

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 06:21:54 2017 No.16943163

>>16942703
Learn the stroke orders and imagine writing them, it actually becomes fairly obvious to distinguish them once you do.

Don't just focus on the two dashes either, the whole thing comes into play. Because you do the two dashes in such a way that feels more natural to draw the larger line. In one you draw the line from the bottom and the other you draw it from the top.
If you're mistaken about what character it is and imagine drawing it it'll immediately feel weird and you know you got it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 06:23:23 2017 No.16943166 Is there a way to have the epwing thing generate not only an anki card for a word but also for each kanji that composes it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 06:38:21 2017 No.16943202 >>16943166 Most epwing dictionaries don't contain definitions for wordless kanji, so what on earth would they put on the back of the cards?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 06:40:20 2017 No.16943207 >>16943202 Whatever each kanji means individually. That helps me a lot when learning desu

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 06:41:38 2017 No.16943213
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I clicked on delete unused and Anki has been working for over 20 minutes now and is taking almost 3gb of ram. This can't be normal right? Should I force quit? I'm afraid of doing this because I haven't synced my changes yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 06:58:02 2017 No.16943245 >>16943207 Sure, that doesn't mean you have to make a card of it though. I guess you could always paste the word into a text box, put a space between all the kanji and see if any of them make a word on their own. That would definitely be a good idea.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 07:38:17 2017 No.16943337

>>16942053
As someone who likes to translate lyrics, depending on the type of song you translate, it can be useful for learning idioms and common metaphores I guess. I wouldn't recommend it as a learning tool though. Jap lyrics often have implied double or even triple meanings that make them a nightmare to translate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 07:40:34 2017 No.16943342 おはようおにいちゃん〆び？がんばっておにいちゃん

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 08:04:57 2017 No.16943398 File: 58 KB, 480x480, 29663155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16943342 こんばんは

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 08:51:14 2017 No.16943506 File: 58 KB, 389x389, 訳知り顔.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16943398 そのカップほしい

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 09:14:49 2017 No.16943574 >>16943213 Leave it and go get a coffee.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 09:47:32 2017 No.16943699

Anyone else have the issue with Yomichan that for some words the audio is in the browser but once you create a card it's silent? Strangely it only affects a few words.
Does anyone know how I can get the audio files myself? Then I can manage those few words manually at least.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 09:47:48 2017 No.16943701

>>16940312
From the github page:
>It's mainly designed for use with Visual Novels, but anything that will let you copy text from will work with Spark Reader
I don't give a shit about visual novels but gave the program a go anyway. It's neat in that you can use it as a standalone program offline but would rather switch to Chrome and use Yomichan over that as a browser pop-up dictionary. Having an annoying extra bar/window across the screen instead of a simple hover over/pop-up setup is a deal breaker for me. Obviously having it as a browser plug-in would defeat its purpose, so that's not a point of criticism as much as that it simply isn't the tool I'm looking for down the line.
The manual states that it doesn't come with a text hooker but from my understanding, don't text hookers essentially do what the program already does, making it kind of redundant? The experience I've had with text hookers is limited, admittedly.
Either way, neat little program for those after that sort of thing. I'd imagine it could come in handy with text based pdf files which are handled notoriously bad by browsers and apps like Rikaisama/chan/kun, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 09:53:31 2017 No.16943716 >>16943699 Is it in a different file format like .ogg or .wav but set up on the card as [sound:◯.mp3]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 09:56:36 2017 No.16943729 >>16943716 Files that work normally are .mp3 and those that don't work just have an empty field where the audio is supposed to be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:03:42 2017 No.16943764 File: 94 KB, 771x720, 1461256263474.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Error, note type does not contain the following field: 'Meaning' But it does? It used to import just fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:07:09 2017 No.16943782 >>16943764 nvm, renamed the field and the corresponding settings in Rikai and now it works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:08:52 2017 No.16943786 >>16943782 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHMBs5yZDEc

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:18:35 2017 No.16943816 Can you hear the difference between お and おう? Is there a trick I'm missing here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:23:04 2017 No.16943829 >>16943816 its kinda a drop tone on the う i think but i have trouble with a lot of the same sound in a row like like in 後を追う im sure the difference is clear as day to natives as it is for me between L and R

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:23:21 2017 No.16943830 >>16943816 http://vocaroo.com/i/s1PZoPJd2Trm [お]う http://vocaroo.com/i/s09O0DWoHZyK お http://vocaroo.com/i/s11ah3W9kLSU おう ???

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:23:43 2017 No.16943833 >>16943816 You missed the part where you learn japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:24:11 2017 No.16943838 >>16943816 Think about how you'd pronounce 'bat' compared to 'baat' (if it were a word). It's the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:25:58 2017 No.16943846 >>16943829 >>16943830 >>16943838 thanks m8s I thought that was the case, just wanted to make sure I wasn't inventing shit in my head

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:47:25 2017 No.16943939 File: 35 KB, 1042x285, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >seriously, what the fuck is this word suppose to- It's Koakuma, right? Source https://exhentai.org/s/3fdf2a002c/156359-4

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:56:45 2017 No.16943981 >>16943939 Yeah, that's 判子 font.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:56:53 2017 No.16943983 >>16943939 >Page 7: アリス Page 7 to 10: Alice >Page 11: ??? Page 11 - 18: Koakuma I wonder . . .

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:57:37 2017 No.16943986 >>16943939 This is why you learn kanji readings instead of words, man. 小悪魔 is the easiest thing in the world to read, and for some reason you're trying to translate from Chinese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 10:59:47 2017 No.16943989 >>16943986 Stop shilling kanji study, please.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:01:14 2017 No.16943995 >>16943939 >emo = demon Thanks djt

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:18:56 2017 No.16944061 What would be YOUR best layman term difference between は and が?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:20:20 2017 No.16944067 >>16944061 Read more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:20:47 2017 No.16944070 >>16944061 They never learn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:44:47 2017 No.16944162 >>16944061 考えるな感じろ！

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:45:12 2017 No.16944165

Is it worth having forward and reverse cards in your mining deck? Currently I do 40 new cards a day, but only 20 (on average) are new cards. Sometimes I feel as though I'm wasting time with double the cards, but I'm concerned that I'll have worse production ability if I don't see the reverse cards as well.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:51:14 2017 No.16944209

>>16944165
Production is best learned by writing (or typing) and being corrected. You may get the definitions of words right, but your wording can still sound very stiff and unnatural. If you really want to learn production try Lang8 or Hellotalk or something.

Overall try to spend as little time as possible doing Anki. It doesn't teach you Japanese.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:56:09 2017 No.16944241

>>16944165
I doubt you're going to keep that up for long, which means you'll only be practicing a few thousand of the most common words. And all of those words will be engraved in your memory like 'kawaii' or 'moe' just by reading a few books because you'll see them so often.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 11:58:14 2017 No.16944252 >>16943701 >The manual states that it doesn't come with a text hooker but from my understanding, don't text hookers essentially do what the program already does No.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:02:24 2017 No.16944278

>>16944165
You're probably better off just having cards to produce single Kanji and only one sided vocabulary. If you see some words often enough you tend to remember the Kanji if you're already capable of drawing it.
I did reverse cards as well and it ended up costing me 1-2 hours every day so I just quit and I feel so much better because I have time to do things I actually enjoy instead of writing words over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:18:05 2017 No.16944344 >>16943989 >He's right though

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:19:56 2017 No.16944350 >>16944344 He's not right.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:24:09 2017 No.16944371

>>16944350
Fuck, I deleted my post, because I put it in greentext for some reason.

He is right. I know all of the jouyou and most of the jinmeiyou kanji and when I see a new word I don't go to a dictionary, I'm trying to figure out a meaning based just on how it is written and I get the reading based on all the other words I know. It's better than doing anki for the next 10 years just to read an easy light novel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:24:38 2017 No.16944376 >>16944371 Cool story bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:25:18 2017 No.16944380 >>16944376 t. ankidrone

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:25:55 2017 No.16944384 >>16944380 I don't even use anki

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:26:32 2017 No.16944387 >>16944384 Please, tell me how learning kanji is bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:26:56 2017 No.16944389 >>16944384 That so? You think you're hot shit? I don't even read. Top that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:27:35 2017 No.16944392 >>16944387 Kanji readings aren't japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:28:26 2017 No.16944398 >>16944392 what the fuck is wrong with you

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:29:02 2017 No.16944403 >>16944398 What the fuck is wrong with YOU?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:29:33 2017 No.16944405 >>16944403 (Me)?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:29:43 2017 No.16944408 >>16944384 I don't even learn Japanese. I just shitpost on /jp/ about learning Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:30:57 2017 No.16944413 >>16944408 this

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:31:05 2017 No.16944414 >>16944252 Come on man, you need to expand on that a little more if you care about having a conversation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:35:43 2017 No.16944427 >>16944414 Texthookers just get the text out of games. They don't do any of the word processing stuff.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:44:26 2017 No.16944481

>>16944427
When people talk about text hookers, aren't they talking about text being extracted with the ability to display readings and/or definitions?
I guess the question is, why would someone use SparkReader over the recommended ITHVNR and chiitrans? Or at least that was what was recommended last time I checked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:46:40 2017 No.16944492 >>16944481 One person recommended it, and it's probably the dev who posts here. It's bloated shit. There's absolutely no reason to use anything other than the ITHVNR+rikaifox combo really.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:46:49 2017 No.16944493

>>16944481
Chiitrans has an integrated texthooker. Chiitrans is also not "recommended" here, at least not any more. The problem is that chiitrans's parser is garbage.

Spark reader is a direct upgrade to chiitrans because you can force the parser to behave well. In other words you can fix parsing mistakes.

ITHVNR is just a texthooker and doesn't do any funny processing stuff. There's a reason people use rikai and browser clipboard grabbers with it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:47:46 2017 No.16944498

>>16944492
>One person recommended it, and it's probably the dev who posts here.
Where did you get this idea?

>It's bloated shit. There's absolutely no reason to use anything other than the ITHVNR+rikaifox combo really.
How is using a web browser as a dictionary not bloated?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:51:24 2017 No.16944510 >>16944498 don't worry that guy just assumes anything new is being pushed by a shill because he's schizophrenic

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:55:47 2017 No.16944521 >>16944498 白々しいにも程があるよね

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 12:57:46 2017 No.16944528 >>16944510 統合失調症ですか

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:01:36 2017 No.16944548

>>16944492
>rikaifox
Fox? Damn, how many Rikai apps/addons/programs are there? Rikaikun, Rikaisama, Rikaichan, Rikaifox. It's like a nursery rhyme. Which one builds the house and which one sneaks in and eats the others in their sleep?

>>16944493
>Chiitrans has an integrated texthooker.
I see, must have been remembering incorrectly.
>There's a reason people use rikai and browser clipboard grabbers with it.
They do that with VNs? Fair enough, obviously it's a lot different now. Thanks for getting me up to speed, I guess. Cheers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:02:46 2017 No.16944554 >>16944548 Rikaisama and Firefox, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:02:49 2017 No.16944556 日本語なんてこんなに簡単なのになんでみんなそんなにもがいてるんだ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBZGo8XUbdA

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:05:11 2017 No.16944569 >>16944554 Oh. That's a bit of an anticlimax.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:07:15 2017 No.16944579 >>16944556 それよりお前はブサイク

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:14:55 2017 No.16944606
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Holy shit this cover art. Anyone read this?

I just realized there is so many manga I've never heard of because it's so hard to follow and keep track of. Especially untranslated stuff never comes up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:20:24 2017 No.16944624 >>16944493 as someone that just uses ITHVNR and the rikaisama + firefox combo and is happy, what is the 'parsing' thing anyway?

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:26:07 2017 No.16944644

>>16944624
It basically means that the program divides the text into segments for you. It's basically evil since the parser is always wrong, but theoretically, it lets you do LingQ-like stuff, which would be good.

I'm not the one that brought SR up here this time (I mentioned it a couple threads ago) but the author posted a reddit thread a long time ago and I told him he should make it possible to create a database of correctly parsed lines. So you could basically use it like LingQ for real without having to worry about the parser. But he said he didn't have immediate plans to implement anything like that since it would be difficult and I got kind of miffed.

But hey, at least you can fix the parser's mistakes. And if he really adds a rikai emulation mode I'd probably replace my firefox setup with it anyway since Photon is going to ruin firefox completely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:27:51 2017 No.16944655 >止みかけの雨 What is 止みかけ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:27:56 2017 No.16944656 Guys where did g.e-hentai go? I remember having to login there before visiting exhentai but the site doesn't seem to exist anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:29:48 2017 No.16944662 >>16944656 Tenboro removed the homepage, so now it's just e-hentai

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:30:03 2017 No.16944663 >>16944656 Anon . . .

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:31:52 2017 No.16944673 >>16944662 Oh, that explains. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:46:09 2017 No.16944738 >>16944655 食べかけやぶっかけと同じ使い方（笑）いかけ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 13:52:06 2017 No.16944765 >>16944656 delet

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 14:24:54 2017 No.16944928 What does らした mean in this sentence? 「ずっと難しい顔で食べてらしたので、お口に合わないのかと思いました」 is it a form of らしい?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 14:25:57 2017 No.16944932 >>16944928 Source?

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 14:38:44 2017 No.16944971

>>16944606
Never heard of it before you posting that.
>I just realized there is so many manga I've never heard of because it's so hard to follow and keep track of.
What I did for things that interest me is look up what else has been serialised in the related magazine and what has been subsequently published into volumes, as well as looking into what else the mangaka from those series have published. Then look up those volumes on sites like Rakuten and Amazon and check out the series listed under the "those who bought this also bought this" type section usually displayed below the entry for the volume.
This can very easily explode like an algae bloom into a 100+ title list of series to check out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 14:53:44 2017 No.16945023 File: 168 KB, 943x720, screenshot0003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ＊マン屁＊

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 14:56:00 2017 No.16945030 >>16944928 楽しんで行ってらしてくださいね

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 14:59:21 2017 No.16945041 >>16944928 I think they're using いらっしゃる instead of いる難しい顔で食べていらっしゃったので難しい顔で食べていたので

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 15:39:02 2017 No.16945168 How do I choose where I want Anki to keep its media files and shit? I don't really want it taking a couple of gigs of SSD space for no good reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 15:58:43 2017 No.16945255 anyone know why raw-zip's novels are always scans and not epubs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 16:00:50 2017 No.16945267 >>16945255 Japanese pirates in general mostly upload scans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 16:01:54 2017 No.16945276 >>16945168 afaik you can't

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 16:04:29 2017 No.16945289 >>16945267 thats interesting i woulda thought its easier to just rip an ebook than physically scan something

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 16:08:28 2017 No.16945315 >>16945289 Most books they still get from their local honya, and there's tons of "ebook" sites with their own apps and formats. I think the only ones that are actual ebook formats where you can remove the DRM are from ebook japan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 16:09:30 2017 No.16945320 >>16943337 Thanks, that's what I figured; it's not harmful, but it's not the most helpful or useful thing when there's other things to translate. I suppose I'll do it on the side but focus on more "normal" artistic works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 16:58:44 2017 No.16945556 >>16945041 That seems to be the case, thank you!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:05:25 2017 No.16945583 >watching raw anime at 1.5 playback speed I think I've finally attained Japanese maturity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:06:45 2017 No.16945587 >>16945583 Why would you do that to yourself?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:08:02 2017 No.16945591 Is there a webpage where you can see new words / kanji added to the Japanese language? I don't mean slangs only

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:09:28 2017 No.16945593 >>16945587 Because it's too boring at normal speed, especially shounen stuff with all the pauses and fillers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:10:51 2017 No.16945599 >>16945593 >it's too boring Don't watch it? I never understood retards like you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:11:32 2017 No.16945603 >>16945583 >>16945587 >>16945593 Is this some sort of fucking meme I'm almost 100 percent sure I saw this exact, exact same argument - posts and all - on /a/ a month ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:12:01 2017 No.16945606 >>16945591 You mean the same way English dictionaries add new words every few years? Maybe check the websites of different dictionaries for announcements. Also there are already 20000+ kanji in Japanese; I don't think anyone wants to invent new ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:12:46 2017 No.16945610 >>16945168 Symlink your collection.media directory to another HD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:14:35 2017 No.16945618 >>16945599 dont forget the benefit of being able to watch 50% more anime

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:15:31 2017 No.16945623 >>16945606 >I don't think anyone wants to invent new ones. O ye of little faith.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:17:03 2017 No.16945636

>>16945599
>>16945603
But I want to watch it, just with less of the annoying time waste, which is exactly what I'm doing? The anime itself is good, but the pauses and fillers are a staple of the genre.

Why are you implying I'm somehow discontent with doing this?

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:17:28 2017 No.16945639

there is a limited amount of time for a person to live and as we all know there is enough media easily available now to last several lifetimes

hacking your genetic cpu to process media faster is the natural progression so getting started now on increasing your speed will benefit you greatly not only in watching as much anime as possible but all things such as learning japanese

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:18:25 2017 No.16945645 >>16945636 Were you perhaps diagnosed with aspergers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:20:05 2017 No.16945660 >>16945645 the only one spergin is you brotha take five and relax on the post button

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:20:21 2017 No.16945662 I've been grinding myself through Tae Kim for a little under a month now, and I'm almost through the Special Expressions section. Just a little more and I'm through.. Must.. keep.. going... Why must it always be so though to learn the basics?...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:21:03 2017 No.16945664 >>16945660 Calm down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:22:48 2017 No.16945669 >>16945664 why you say that

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:23:00 2017 No.16945670 File: 30 KB, 640x480, いもうと.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ねぼうだー！

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:23:40 2017 No.16945673 >>16945662 Tyler isn't supposed to take that long. Just start reading if you already know basic kanji.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:24:58 2017 No.16945676 >>16945670 剃れ肌れの聖火？

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:25:43 2017 No.16945682 >>16945673 >basic kanji you mean basic grammar right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:26:01 2017 No.16945684 >>16945676 おにいちゃんのせいせきにんとって

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:26:50 2017 No.16945688 >>16945682 If you're already at the Special Expressions section you should already know basic grammar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:29:01 2017 No.16945698 >>16945662 >... >The entire way this is posted Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:29:23 2017 No.16945702 File: 337 KB, 1763x627, いかが.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do they add furigana in common words like いかが?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:29:36 2017 No.16945703 File: 41 KB, 405x374, hai.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16945684 >せきにんとって世過労

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:30:49 2017 No.16945711

>>16945688
I'm through the basics, and essentials, but I'm reviewing it while I do special and advanced. Dumb as I am, I didn't do reviews as I was going, and a few days ago decided to add all I had gone through to anki, and am having a hard time recognizing and understanding it.

>>16945698
no u :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:31:42 2017 No.16945713 >>16945702 It could mean どう. Use a dictionary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:34:05 2017 No.16945722 >>16945623 So have any new kanji been invented since 粍, 糎, 米, 粁; 竓, 竰, 竕, 立 and the like?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:34:20 2017 No.16945724 >>16945711 Why don't you try focusing one thing at a time? You don't seem to have enough attention span. Either start reading and doing anki while using the guide as reference, or finish Tyler already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:35:47 2017 No.16945732 >>16945662 >Why must it always be so though You're actually using your brain for the first time, it just takes some getting used to.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:40:54 2017 No.16945756

>>16945724
I'm only doing Tae Kim right now (other than reviewing vocab, only adding what I don't know in Tae Kim), and using anki to review what I have learned in tk. I don't see the point in just reading through tae kim without remembering any of it. I'm sure I'll be reaping the benefits of my efforts when I try reading again.

>>16945732
It's sad, but this is probably fairly accurate.

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:42:34 2017 No.16945767

>>16945756
Basically, it takes time, not effort. If you focus all your attention on a small number of things, you won't learn them faster than a fixed rate. It's better to spread out and try to learn as much as possible at the same time, because even though each thing comes slower, you end up getting a lot more overall in the same amount of time. That's not to say you should go look into etymology or archaic morphology, just that you shouldn't agonize over your ability to understand a given section.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:48:33 2017 No.16945789 >>16945767 >Basically, it takes time, not effort. I'd say it takes time and effort, but I see what you mean. I'll try to be less hung up over details, and go into reading earlier sooner.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:49:42 2017 No.16945795 File: 48 KB, 952x594, aaadws.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:52:28 2017 No.16945805 >>16945795 That is an interesting infographic, do you know the source?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:52:52 2017 No.16945806 >>16945805 my ass

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:53:04 2017 No.16945808 >>16945795 How the hell do you read the thing on the right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:53:30 2017 No.16945810 >>16945808 it's a function of two variables, have you never seen a heightmap graph before

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:53:48 2017 No.16945813 File: 205 KB, 430x372, Source.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16945795 Source: pic related

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:55:06 2017 No.16945817 >>16945808 up and down = time spent. left and right = effort. green = sweetspot. red = waste of time & energy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:55:30 2017 No.16945818 File: 25 KB, 952x594, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16945795 fixed that for you

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:56:01 2017 No.16945820 >>16945795 >>16945818 Which interpretation of the two graphs on the left is correct? I'm not a math person.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:57:36 2017 No.16945825 >>16945820 the second one is saying that, for things that take a lot of time, there's no point in putting in more than a moderate level of effort red: critically inefficient yellow: not efficient but not a waste either green: sweet spot

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:57:54 2017 No.16945828 >>16945795 >>16945818 I'm 色覚異常

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 17:59:07 2017 No.16945835 >>16945828 good thing the green is a different level of brightness and the meaning is still conveyed by the lack of color between the regions

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:02:23 2017 No.16945850 なんじゃこれは

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:02:59 2017 No.16945854 File: 27 KB, 952x594, study-graph-fixed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16945828 hope this helps you anon-kun

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:05:12 2017 No.16945866 >>16945854 now it just looks like a graph to locate the G spot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:07:09 2017 No.16945880 >>16945866 well it is a graph to locate the sweetspot, so I guess thats not too far off?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:34:30 2017 No.16946029 >>16945854 why does the anus have a diving board

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:52:55 2017 No.16946129 >>16945315 amazon take over pls

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:53:00 2017 No.16946130 >>16945639 I listen to certain audiobooks at 1.25 speed when the author talks very slow. Otherwise I just can't. I'll skim read a lot it's an incredibly valuable tool when you aren't pleasure reading

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:58:21 2017 No.16946145 [DELETED]

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Anyone here in JET or another eikaiwa?

I'm thinking about it and have lots questions and wanna know how your personal experience is/was. Skype, steam, discord, etc would be preferable.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/TunaCats/

my thread,
>>>/adv/18270990

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 18:59:42 2017 No.16946153 >>16946145 Don't post here if you're not aiming to learn japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 19:14:03 2017 No.16946206 Is there any way to zoom in, or enlarge the text, in Anki? Sometimes trying to make out the more complicated kanji is difficult, because my eyesight isn't all that good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 19:15:18 2017 No.16946209 >>16946206 I don't know about zooming in, but you could change the font size on the card template.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 19:17:20 2017 No.16946213 >>16946209 Where can I find that? I'm new to the program

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 19:18:15 2017 No.16946215 >>16946213 Add > Cards

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 19:20:32 2017 No.16946222 >>16946215 ありがとうございます

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 19:42:26 2017 No.16946290 >>16943213 Is it still deleting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 20:33:35 2017 No.16946500 >>16946145 teach english in literally any other country try singapore

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 20:53:32 2017 No.16946550 File: 50 KB, 736x724, 1477050748197.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what happened to the koohii forum? im getting 403

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 20:56:41 2017 No.16946561 >>16942512 >>16941766 Are there multiple ways to add example sentences or do you all use the same add-on but different dictionaries?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 21:43:31 2017 No.16946768 >>16946550 I killed it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 21:45:14 2017 No.16946777 Can someone who uses Yomichan post their Front Template/Back Template/Styling? My shit isn't getting imported correctly

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 21:49:35 2017 No.16946793 File: 5 KB, 128x128, CisZFpwWkAMlOBN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] こんにちは　/jp/newfagだよ 4年間に日本語を勉強してるのにまだペラペラ話せないもん…いつも単語を言い忘れてて要らない単語を言うよでも誰か教えてあげるまで、間違いを知らんどうすればいいの

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 21:53:35 2017 No.16946810 >>16946793 もう諦めろお前は明らかに出来ないもんだ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 21:56:33 2017 No.16946816 >>16946810 これからも頑張りますわ('ω')

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:35:51 2017 No.16946935 How do you say "I'm glad you're such a nice lady"? お姉さんは優しくて嬉しい?

Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:38:27 2017 No.16946943

>>16946793
Get on LINE.
At first it's a but awkward but you get better naturally.
There is no way to reach proficient output without human interaction.
There always needs to be someone to tell you what your doing wrong and 4chan is NOT the place to learn output.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:42:07 2017 No.16946951 >>16946943 Actually nevermind the /int/ threads might help better than here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:43:07 2017 No.16946954 >>16946951 If you like /int/ that much why don't you go back, fucker?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:44:36 2017 No.16946961 >>16946935 お前いい女だ、気に入ったぜ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:50:30 2017 No.16946983 >>16946954 well this place has good resources but hardly any Japs. Or you can't tell who is and who isn't. Both threads have their ups and downs, int has too many celebrities for my tastes though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 22:57:40 2017 No.16947005 >>16946954 The only good point of /int/ is that there can be output help. The tradeoff is that its cancerous as fuck so you just gotta get what you need and get out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:14:12 2017 No.16947057 File: 70 KB, 768x464, 768px-Table_katakana.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16942710 The angle of the small stroke above or under 45º is what differentiates, but actually the writing is different.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:15:40 2017 No.16947064 >「はあ～っ、やっぱり島の人ですね、親切ですね！　仇州は人情の国やけん、心配せんでよかよ、っておばさんが言ってた通りでした！！」 What does せんでよかよ mean?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:19:59 2017 No.16947079 >>16947064 心配せので　よこよいゃ…実は私は解らない

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:20:56 2017 No.16947081 >>16947079 そうかしかたない、やっぱり死のう

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:23:46 2017 No.16947091 >>16947064 Does it basically mean しなくていいよ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:26:02 2017 No.16947101 >>16947064 >>16947091 Second idea: Does it mean 心配しかない?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:46:43 2017 No.16947159 >>16947064 せんで = しなくてよかよ = いいよ心配しなくていいよ

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 30 23:47:29 2017 No.16947160 >>16947159 わかりましたありがとうっす

Anonymous Mon May 1 03:08:22 2017 No.16947650

>>16946290
It isn't. I just force quit Anki after some time and deleted files which had a word in their name (about 10000) and then tried again. It was finished after half a second. Seems Anki has an issue with handling too many files. Maybe it was trying to load all of them at once or something?

>>16946561
For one there is the addon that scans the word and adds an example sentence with an English translation. It is sadly missing many words and there is no way to disable the English translation as far as I am aware of. Most plugins that create automatic flashcards also have the option to display the sentence the word was imported from but I generally have this field disabled as there is a bunch of nonsense whenever I import from something that isn't a clean cut sentence. It only makes sense for visual novels and the like.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 03:33:28 2017 No.16947700 How do you guys manage to read about Japanese history in Japanese? I usually have no idea how to read all those ancient proper nouns.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 03:49:00 2017 No.16947728 >>16947700 You learn them? The topic doesn't really matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 04:04:34 2017 No.16947750 >>16947700 You got to Japanese high school duhh, you just walk in. What are they going to tell you, leave?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 04:22:17 2017 No.16947799 >>16947728 >>16947750 Can't lose to literal Japanese schoolgirls...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 04:28:48 2017 No.16947817 >>16947700 What is in japanese history that is so interesting, isn't it just centuries of fighting each other i suppose 'who stopped it' is fairly important. Anyway the sources of ancient proper nouns or old as fuck grammar are probably on imabi

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 04:35:41 2017 No.16947828 File: 23 KB, 600x337, いもうと.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] たいへんれいとうこがたけのこでぱんぱんですわ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 05:01:02 2017 No.16947863 >>16947817 I wanted to read up on the origins of the name 赤座. It's pretty much like you described, though. >imabi Thanks for this.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 05:50:27 2017 No.16947940 Is there any particular reason why it's ず that makes "dzu" and not づ? My intuition insists that it should be the other way around

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 05:52:48 2017 No.16947945 >>16947940 Regional differences. In your standard tokyoite, they're both pronounced identically.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 05:56:15 2017 No.16947957 くっころ言ってみたい

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 06:32:04 2017 No.16948053 >>16947828 小さい妹さんなら、小さい冷凍庫なんだ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 06:39:26 2017 No.16948076 File: 47 KB, 837x463, Снимок.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does this き mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 06:55:47 2017 No.16948107 >>16948076 It means the word is 体 [裁き] and not [体裁] き

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 07:00:35 2017 No.16948118 >>16948076 たいさばき

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 07:02:31 2017 No.16948124 >>16948118 body judgement? Lol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 08:11:57 2017 No.16948306 キモがられてる What mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 08:20:00 2017 No.16948328 >>16948306 キモい + て and passive form of がる + いる

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 08:25:18 2017 No.16948338 >>16948053 にほんのれいとうれいぞうこはちっちゃいよ

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 08:30:44 2017 No.16948360 >>16948338 なんのメーカーを持ってる?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 08:43:07 2017 No.16948411 File: 195 KB, 966x902, meme333.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 08:43:29 2017 No.16948413 I learned fu*k you before learn thank you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 09:19:02 2017 No.16948498 >分からないわけじゃなかった is this 分からない + past tense of 訳じゃない ="It's not like I didn't understand it"? google tl is giving me "I do not know it." and It's confusing me greatly.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 09:20:05 2017 No.16948502 >>16948498 Two negatives make a plus.

Anonymous Mon May 1 09:31:14 2017 No.16948536

>>16948498
わけではない contradicts whatever came before it when explaining the cause of something or the reasoning behind a conclusion
So
[Something] happened and someone suggested it (or the subject was assuming people were thinking it) was because he didn't understand it. So I'm assuming the response was
>分からないわけじゃなかった
In essence
>it wasn't because [subject] didn't understand it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 10:29:20 2017 No.16948763 >>16948411 Even Japanese people can't learn Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 10:41:19 2017 No.16948808 Why did DJT get taken off /a/? It's sad to see it so dead now compared to a few years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 10:43:08 2017 No.16948819 >>16948808 same reason sadpanda got taken off /a/ slant eye moot is a hack

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 10:43:11 2017 No.16948820 >>16948808 started with a single autist spamming railgun girl reaction pics from his phone he must have turned his autism fueled attention to a mod, and one of them listened

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:09:02 2017 No.16948922 >>16948808 It really is a shame, /a/ is where it belongs because you always get a fresh influx of people interested in learning there. But this board it's just the same people circlejerking for 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:14:53 2017 No.16948939 >>16948808 >>16948922 On the other hand, threads last longer and it's organized again. I do miss the "one kanji a day" thing we had back in /a/ a few years ago, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:26:28 2017 No.16948992 >>16948939 >it's organized again Having two threads on two boards doesn't feel organized at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:34:22 2017 No.16949017 >>16948939 >I do miss the "one kanji a day" thing we had back in /a/ a few years ago, though. Fuck that trash. It was the whole reason I laughed at the thread and ignored it for like a year or two.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:35:06 2017 No.16949020 I know absolutely no Japanese, what's a good way to get started?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:35:43 2017 No.16949024 >>16949020 I don't know?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:35:56 2017 No.16949025 >>16949020 By reading the OP. Try that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:36:41 2017 No.16949028 >>16949020 Read the fucking guide

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:44:22 2017 No.16949062 >>16949024 >>16949025 >>16949028 Sorry for being an autistic failure

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 11:57:06 2017 No.16949111 >>16949062 It's okay, the majority of people wanting to learn Japanese are like this, especially on here. Give it your best, anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 12:24:23 2017 No.16949233 http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1493655772478.webm Watching drama for listening practice, didn't know it was so good. It's just like my netorare comics.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:08:36 2017 No.16949482 Why would you say となる instead of になる? Is it just a matter of style?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:09:20 2017 No.16949488 >>16949482 This is explained in the Dictionary of Japanese Grammar. http://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_night.html

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:23:59 2017 No.16949581 日本語を学んだ後何をすべきか

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:25:05 2017 No.16949589 >>16949581 エロゲをプレイするに決まってるじゃん

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:29:23 2017 No.16949616 それはそうだけどなんかもっと楽しいことしたいです

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:29:24 2017 No.16949617 >>16949581 他の言語も学んでこい。ロシア語は楽しいかも・・・

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:30:09 2017 No.16949622 >>16949488 Ah, I missed the small print next to it >used in writing and formal speech only

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:34:11 2017 No.16949644 File: 400 KB, 1080x1920, Ol40ozj.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is this [ha? kiresou] meme?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:34:50 2017 No.16949648 ロシアの殺し屋恐ろしや

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:35:48 2017 No.16949652 >>16949644 isnt that just 2 nekos txting e.o in japan cats can use the telephone

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:36:26 2017 No.16949657 >>16949644 They hate you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 13:37:03 2017 No.16949662 File: 304 KB, 1920x1080, 切れそう.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16949644 First time I heard of it. Must be some youth slang saying they get fed up with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:14:01 2017 No.16949798 how do you memorize kanji that you've been hitting "again" and "again" but can't get into your head? write it up till your hand hurts? search related words and or readings? fuck i hate names sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:15:12 2017 No.16949803 >>16949798 Read more.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:16:58 2017 No.16949810 File: 1.55 MB, 1088x1033, 「。。。。。。」.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16949798 >memorize kanji

Anonymous Mon May 1 14:18:17 2017 No.16949820

I studied for maybe 4-5 months and then wound up stopping for 6 months after falling behind when I went on vacation and then getting discouraged as the reps started to pile up and it became seemingly impossible to make the pile any smaller as I procrastinated more. Anyone have any tips for getting back into it? Should I just try to power through, or maybe ignore the reps for a bit and just try something else, or what?

Anonymous Mon May 1 14:21:46 2017 No.16949842

>>16949798
What does memorize Kanji mean? Writing and reproduction? It's probably a bad way to do it but I typically just find the most common word with that Kanji or the most common/famous name and add it to my mining deck. Not very productive but at least I see it from time to time which makes writing and recalling it easier. I wouldn't memorize anything like meanings because those are hardly beneficial.

>>16949820
This is covered in the Anki manual. Just set new cards to 0 and work through as many cards as you can until the review count is acceptable again. Anki accounts for the time you have been absent and increases the intervals for reviews if you haven't seen a card for longer than intended. You can also increase steps to ensure that those forgotten cards stick better.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:23:20 2017 No.16949847 You anki until you got it, and you don't allow yourself to eat until you memorize it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:23:46 2017 No.16949849 >>16949820 I don't know how big your pile is, but I was in your situation before. Divide number of reps due by 7, do that amount every day 100 reps, 1 hour break, 100 reps, 1 hour break, etc

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:24:33 2017 No.16949854 >>16949847 I've tried that. You end up doing poorly and thinking "ugh can I eat yet?"

Anonymous Mon May 1 14:26:06 2017 No.16949863

>>16949842
Yeah, planned on putting off new cards until I work through my backlog for sure, but I meant more along the lines of general tips for people who are trying to ease their way back in after a long period of idleness, most likely having to relearn a ton of shit that has been forgotten in the intervening month.
>>16949849
I guess I can try this, though it does get a bit daunting after a long break since I'm likely fucking up 80% of them and the delays get shorter and shorter each time, and meanwhile new ones get added to the pile every day too... Tried to get back in a couple of months ago and just got totally discouraged for that reason mostly, felt like every time I sat down to do reviews I was actually making my backlog larger rather than smaller.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:26:07 2017 No.16949865 >>16949847 This reminds me of my anti distraction technique. Whenever I am in danger of distracting myself from my Anki reviews I start masturbating because my hand is now busy and can't be used to navigate my mouse to some kind of distraction.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:31:52 2017 No.16949889 >>16949842 >I wouldn't memorize anything like meanings because those are hardly beneficial. That's for granted. I only focus on readings.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:38:05 2017 No.16949923 >>16949889 Those are even less beneficial.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:39:14 2017 No.16949928 >>16949889 >>/jp/thread/S16804121#p16806982

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:39:18 2017 No.16949930 >>16949923 nonsense, how can you read signs or names otherwise?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:40:00 2017 No.16949937 >>16949930 By knowing japanese? What is this, a riddle?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 14:45:28 2017 No.16949962 愛媛県茨城県千葉県岐阜県 Wow so hard. Names are piss easy. Try this instead 山車

Anonymous Mon May 1 15:12:57 2017 No.16950068

>>16936640
How much time do you spend on each kanji, KKLC-kun? I've been taking so much time that it's possibly counterproductive. My retention is great (~98%) because I've been staring at the little bastards until the mnemonic is deeply rooted in my memory, but I would appreciate being able to spend more time on other areas of study. I don't know where the acceptable compromise between speed and thoroughness lies.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 15:19:43 2017 No.16950091 >>16950068 more time less thoroughness, split your time among multiple tasks

>>	Anonymous Mon May 1 15:36:21 2017 No.16950153 >>16949962 >Names are piss easy. Have a crack: 吹田箕面枚方市交野市四条畷先斗町富田林放出網干金勝喜連瓜破浮気町住道矢田十三雲雀丘花屋敷丼池筋百舌鳥信貴山鴫野住道布忍弥刀安立町正雀近義ノ里立売堀杭全美木多斑鳩我孫子畝傍土師ノ里茨田大宮柴島河堀口深日町太秦私市御幣島野江内代平群

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