General Nutaku and DMM Thread 187

[Anonymous No.]

Last thread: >>17449331

Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>English DMM Character List
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Units
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
https://discord.gg/n6uRd3n
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Dragon Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://drapro.wiki.fc2.com/

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

X-Overd:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?

Kamihime
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/
>eng dmm wiki
http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Kamihime_Project_Wikia

ShiroPro:
>Jp Wiki
http://scre.swiki.jp/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://shiroprore.wikia.com

Miscellaneous links:
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[Anonymous No.]

I don't really see the point of that jp wiki for DP being there
It's outdated by YEARS

[Anonymous No.]

what uniws are good to prioritize for cost reduction fairies?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn even after the update kamipro is still shit with chrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481011
>The other way around, B Iris (and probably Lapis) supersede Prince's passive aura. Although from what I remember, AW Prince changes it, and they stack together. Also, B Iris Skill, Aix, and Verdinath's skills all cancel each other out and only the highest applies.

Wait how does this work? Prince gives a 20% buff to atk and def. When B. Iris activates her skill the unit loses it's 20% def buff. Okay, but what happens to the atk buff? Does the unit loses its 20% atk buff from the prince too?

[Anonymous No.]

>Kami's up
>Reserved 9k for Diana
>First roll

wat

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481510
No, only the DEF portion will be overwritten. DMM wiki has a pretty good guide about buff/debuff stacking:
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Buffs_and_Debuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481538
I hate you, but grats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481538
Spent 13k, got Ouroboros, dupe Acala (free eye, yey), Metatron, Tyr and Diana. Not sure if worth it, but beggars can't be choosers.

[Anonymous No.]

No new girl for Aigis next week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481496
I am using opera for Kamipro now, fuck chrome.

[Anonymous No.]

Which of the following should I prioritize for CC in Aigis?

>Maribel (Only Gold or higher Armor right now)
>Leona
>Waltz
>Emilia
>Momiji
>Odette

Right now my CC'd units are
>Katie
>Mordebait
>Gold Iris
>Gold Daniela
>Cloris
>Amanda

Is this dragon knight girl available tomorrow worth picking up? I have no idea where to begin with the rest of my units, should I be leveling and CCIng my silvers? I don't have any other Gold (Or higher) healers, so should I be CCing Alissa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481791
Odette

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>>17481836
And after her? Is two mages all I'll ever need for that class?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481883
Wait for that gold bishop in the shop for another mage.
>And after her?
Tanker, Maribel and Momiji are bad tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481921
Is Silver Leanne better? Because she's the only other armor character I have and I heard Miranda was shit so I skipped her

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481791
Odette -> Maribel -> Momiji -> Emilia -> Leona -> Waltz

Odette is good because having a mage is important.
Momiji, Emilia, Maribel, Waltz are only good when starting out. You eventually get better units via revival or gacha'ing.
Leona is the most important unit but only matters for late game.

Dragon Knight? You mean Lucille? She's good as an off-tank or a melee character with range attacks. She can help you get far in the story mode.

It's always important to level up healers, archers, and witches if they're silver. Once they hit level 55, some get really good bonuses. Assuming this is DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481947
>>17481921
Is power creep really that bad in this game? Maybe I'll just stop now if plats are considered that shitty, doesn't sound that fun to be so gated in who you can actually use later on

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481958
It's not that, it's just you coincidentally have units that got out shadowed.

Maribel and Emilia has subpar stats, but that is made up with in Holy Awakening. But the game gets harder later where that doesn't matter. Heavy Armors need to be tanky or do a lot of damage, and valkyries are honestly just in a rough spot.

Odette is still solid.
Momiji just has a bad skill but most Samurais are terrible aside from Hibari.
Waltz isn't bad, just the other gacha sisters are a bit better. She's at least better than Hana. But dancers are dancers, just supplementary stats for the most part. I've done all the maps with Hana over any other dancer because I never ended up levelling another one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481958
They buff older units all the time. But some plats are better, some worse. Maribel is completely useless if you have Bernice and Hibari (both available for free in GRs/Revivals). Momiji is just bad.
Emilia is superseded by event black Valk and there's always Mischa for low-cost valking.
Waltz is okay, she has permanent SAW, which is very useful.

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>>17481984
>They buff units all the time
>Now let me list all these units that are apparently unusable in a game that has been out for years as far as I understand
I don't get it

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>>17481958
Units are usually evaluated as good or bad depending on their performance in endgame content, which is very restrictive.

You can clear regular content using whatever you like, so a unit being shit doesn't really matter as long as you aren't bringing her to high-tier majin maps or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482004
I think everyone including devs gave up on these units. They would need HUGE buffs to become popular, and thats not going to happen.
Besides, black is always better than plat, so its not like Maribel and Momiji ever had chance to compete with Hibari to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482004
They buff them, but it's insignificant. Stuff like ATK or DEF increase is nice, but in the end, every one else is still better.

>>17482010
Not all the time, players use niche characters all the time for Majin maps. Doesn't make them better in general. Puppeteers and Sailors for example.

Honestly, if you wanna have fun playing the game, level up whoever you like. Katie has been one of my favorites forever and I never switched her out with any other soldier. If you wanna play meta, save up for Emperor who will help you 90% of the time.

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>>17482004
Maribel was one of first events in the game, 4 years ago. First batch of event units was kind of ridiculous, we had Anya and Karma on one hand and shit like Maribel on another.
Kind of understandable, as they didn't have idea about what kind of game they are making at that time.

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>>17482027
>Puppeteers and Sailors for example.
Puppeteers and sailors are pretty good classes, though. It's just that they're difficult to use in blind runs, so there's no point in bringing them to maps you can clear in one go. Same with units like dancers and royal guards, who are not particularly weak in regular content but don't really warrant use either.

>Honestly, if you wanna have fun playing the game, level up whoever you like. Katie has been one of my favorites forever and I never switched her out with any other soldier.
But yeah, that's good advice and great taste. You can mostly raise whomever you want in Aigis and get away with it.

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>>17482021
>I think everyone including devs gave up on these units. They would need HUGE buffs to become popular, and thats not going to happen.
What's the point of awakening and skill awakening then? Seems like an easy way to fix bad units if they wanted to

>>17482037
>mostly
who falls outside of mostly

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>>17481485
Soldiers, Merchants, Frontline Tacticians are the big three classes. After that, things like Rearguard Tacticians and Archers.

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>>17482027
>Katie has been one of my favorites forever and I never switched her out with any other soldier
Because KT is one of best soldiers due to 10 cost and her def buff. And with AW2 she's going to be staple unit for a long time.
Such example doesn't really help your point.

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>>17481958
This isn't even a case of power creep, this is a case of "Hey, these units were considered absolute fucking dogshit when they came out like 3 years ago. Are they good units now?"

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>>17482039
>What's the point of awakening and skill awakening then? Seems like an easy way to fix bad units if they wanted to
Sometimes they have good ideas. Sometimes they're really unimaginative. Monica was a subpar pirate, and now she has a niche as a tank killer. It's just luck.

>mostly
Sapphire units.

>>17482043
It was easier and better for the most part to use Lisolette or Aria. Costing Katie down was difficult for a time, and only just now got the AW2 that makes her massively good.

If you want another example, I mentioned I used Hana for Majin maps that uses dancers. I have Marnie and Waltz, but I still managed to do the maps with Hana, who is ultimately the worst dancer.

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>>17482053
But if they were shit 3 years ago isn't that even less of an excuse to why they would be shit now? They had 3 years to buff them and/or correct them with new mechanics added to the game like skill awakening

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>>17482066
It's more that the devs went
>Holy Awakening sure is broken, it makes Maribel and Emilia unkillable
>how about we give them TRUE holy awakening so it's even more strong but lets keep their stats subpar
>while we do that, lets make it so that there is less of a reason to have valkyries on blind runs and lets give other classes the ability to tank better than HA's

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482082
>lets give other classes the ability to tank better than HA's
You are being unfair, Gellius is still tanking champion.

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>>17482091
>You are being unfair, Gellius is still tanking champion.
Who gives the fuck about male units. And while I do exaggerate, they make it easier and easier to finish maps without the need of a HA. Either via dodge, obscene amount of damage, stuns, or Karma. I use Dina, and there not many times where I can use her to tank Majins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482109
I bet after HA AW2 they will make some ridiculous content where you can't survive unless you throw AW2 HAs at it.

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>>17482131
for one thing, armors are nowhere close to the best tanks right now, for another, the only way to force you to tank no matter what is to give something millions of health which is just dumb, for another, they absolutely never make things that there's only one way to do, and for another, there's so many ways to buff and debuff things that it's impossible to make something that there's only one way to tank

so how much are you betting

[Anonymous No.]

So how many SC do I need on average to roll a rate-up platinum unit?

Also should I be doing this swarm/raid event that ends on the 24th? DMM

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482176
>Also should I be doing this swarm/raid event that ends on the 24th? DMM

Why not? Rewards will help you out.

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>>17482183
Is it something that needs to be run multiple times? I'm not sure if I should be doing that or dailies to prepare for the next event

most hard tier dailies still stomp me, same with revivals and all my team has low as fuck affection

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482192
>Is it something that needs to be run multiple times?
Yes. You need to kill 10,000 units via multiple runs. It gets boring but if you need fairies and if you can complete it, you can get 50 rubies which always helps.

> I'm not sure if I should be doing that or dailies to prepare for the next event
Pretty sure there isn't an event next week. Daily maps and orbs drops are increasing next week.

>most hard tier dailies still stomp me, same with revivals and all my team has low as fuck affection
Yeah, it gets hard. To be honest, I'd use my crystals to gacha every once in a while to get a black unit. Would keep 5-10 in my inventory just for emergencies.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, Dullahan is hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482198
I was saving my rolls for Zenovia because she's the only gacha unit I really want (that isn't black or an event unit)

I only have 93 or something though so probably won't get her anyways whenever she goes on rateup next

I'm guessing if I'm relatively new just farm the lowest charisma cost one for the swarm? Is this dark elf event something I should be worrying about right now? I have a few cc'd units but not for every class yet

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>>17482206
Good luck on your gachas. Some people tend to do better than others after finding out a pattern that works for them. I know it's superstition but it helps sometimes. I use to never gacha unless I roll a silver on the free/1000g gacha. But only gacha 4 times. That landed me a good number of blacks but it hasn't worked since. And it usually never give me plats.

>I'm guessing if I'm relatively new just farm the lowest charisma cost one for the swarm? Is this dark elf event something I should be worrying about right now? I have a few cc'd units but not for every class yet
Yeah just do the lowest cost one. It's tedious though, so it's understandable if you want to skip it. Roana is a good unit since it's one of the few units not affected by stuns, which will help against Zombie Dragon. However, Avengers are not an all purpose class. I say just clear any maps you can and complete it another time.

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>>17482206
>Is this dark elf event something I should be worrying about right now?
If you have SC surplus, you should get one copy of her since she's only free melee unit with paralysis immunity. Well, angels also get it via Mirno, but they aren't kind of thing you would use to tank Dracolich.

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>>17482176
Depends on how many Plats are on the rate-up. I'd say probably about 150 or so if you want a rate-up Plat, but if you want a specific rate-up Plat and there's like 3 on there, then the price will go up.

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>>17482240
I only started playing recently but so far all the rateup I've seen have had at least two plats on rateup, is there any rhyme or reason to who goes on rateup when or does it just cycle? I kinda feel like hordeing until my chances peak, I wouldn't want to roll for her in those gachas with 8+ rateup units or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482246
It usually feels pretty random, but sometimes they do ones like "Units who ramp" or "Units who just got buffed" kinda things.

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>>17482131
Honestly all the event maps except higher-leveled Demon King maps are trivially easy and boring by now, I haven't had a decent challenge in ages.

[Anonymous No.]

*Blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482311
They did announce they will make more harder maps and every time they buff units it's usually an indication of stronger enemies.

>>17482327
Hi Saria, I hope you are happy to know I keep you in my team always despite having B.Iris.

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>>17482327
B. Iris should take note, this is how a saint should dress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482311
There's a new event type coming soon, Total War I think, that should keep you occupied.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish Stamina regenerated at 1/30m.
Hell just shaving off 10 or 15 minutes off the timer would be an improvement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482201
Villager approved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482492
Fuck no. I stopped playing X-OverD because I couldn't keep up with stamina regen.
Go play something else if you are unemployed neet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482347
>B.Iris
Elyse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17482715
I just don't like waiting a full day if I got 2 90/12 stages back to back.
Only another half day because I failed both. It's frustrating, really.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder why Aigis still didn't implement the most obvious skill — revive specified fallen unit and make its death not count as loss of 3*.
Such black would sell like crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17481930
Leeanne is great. Push her to CC55 and she'll have more defense than a gold heavy does pre-AW. She's also a really common drop in events, so it's easy to min cost her.

Don't neglect your silvers.

>>17482055
Some sapphires are okay. Most are the prototype for their classes and are complete garbage because by the time they figure out what to do with the class they'll give you a free unit in an event that's infinitely better and refuse to fix them. (Looking at you, Time Nico.)

Then you have units like Charme, Meteor, Lahti, and the angel that still hold up well enough to actually use in a lot of situations, as well as a number of other units that are pretty okay.

>>17482131
This assumes that heavy AW2 will ever happen. They haven't even so much as mentioned it, so I'm afraid to think how much longer it's going to be.

>>17482759
If you're a retard, sure. That's not how you write Elyse in Japanese. Don't excuse Nutaku's dumbass translations.

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>>17483054
Elyse is a far better choice than the retarded B.Iris
Black is not her name or title and neither is B.
Saint Iris is decently translated name and title while St Iris would work well in shorthand.

Why use a prefix that isn't there when there's a perfectly good one to use.

Proper names are 聖女イリス, Saint Iris and St Iris
Official names are Elyse and 聖女イリス
Shit names are Black Iris or B.Iris

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483208
Let's just call the black unit Iris and the gold unit Aeris and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.]

lagihime still not fixed, starts freezing my pc whenever I start it in opera

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483228
Aerith*

>>17483275
buy a better machine

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483281
i5, gtx750 ti, 16gb ram
I don't need a better machine for this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483275
I'm using Iron, working well still

[Anonymous No.]

so if i skill awake for a second time in aigis my skill will get back to normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483303
Try opening that frame into a separate tab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483354
Yes, you can swap back and forth as much as you want (provided you have the resources).

[Anonymous No.]

Should I be CCing my silvers before fusing them so I get skill levels with my cost reductions? This sounds expensive.

What silver units are a priority for a new player?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483413
Silvers don't change skill on CC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483413
Generally, silvers do not change skills when CC'd. Only gold units do along with a few plats and blacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483426
So should I be CCIng for plats and golds then? And is there even any way to get a second Yukata Daniela right now?

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>>17483413
The only silver that's potentially worth doing that with is Gadoras, since he changes from Strengthen Attack III to IV, but even that isn't generally worth doing.

>>17483428
Better to just use rainbow fairies so you aren't using up so many resources to CC them, but you can if you want. You typically don't get a lot of duplicates of golds that change skills. Plats don't usually change skills in general.

And no, only the one.

[Anonymous No.]

I've done this stupid gold rush with the sphinxes 3 times now and have yet to see the first drop on the list.
I can't kill the sphinxes, I've tried, don't tell me the drops are gated behind them, jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483472
They aren't. Got them all on my second run.

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>>17483446
Do people usually use their CR fairies on blacks? And what skills should I prioritize for leveling? Damage up? Reinforcements?

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>>17483525
If you mean time fairies, blacks are typically what they're used on, yes. But you basically only get one of those per year and you'll need to use your first to CC Anya.

Honestly, don't worry too much about skills. Very few skills are so important that you need to force yourself to level them up and most of the time you won't bother until you're ready to SAW someone.

That said, defense and attack up skills are pretty good immediate returns. Reinforcements will generally knock one second or less of initial/reuse timer off per level, so not a great return on investment. Range boosts are generally pretty meh beyond the base increase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483544
I have this fairy that just says "Cost" instead of "Exp" so I assumed that was a cost reduction fairy

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483525
CR fairies are usually rarity-gated, so you get a gold CR fairy that can only be used on golds and so on. The super-rare time fairy should only be used on blacks/good plats that are already at -2 CR, since she can be used on any rarity and guarantees a CR.

Attack up skills are usually optimal for using rainbow fairies on.

>>17482840
Honestly, there are a bunch of new skills/classes they can make. I'd be fine with a witch/chronowitch that "stores" shots when not attacking something and drops 4-5 attacks' worth of damage on the first unit that comes into range, for example.

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>>17483561
>CR fairies are usually rarity gated
according to the wiki you can't even get them without spending 250+ crystals a month so is it even relevant

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>>17483559
There are some that are based on rarity (gold, platinum, black) but they only work on that rarity so you don't have a choice. There's also the time fairy which is a guaranteed cost reduction on any rarity, and there's a similar fairy in the trading post that works on any rarity but isn't guaranteed.

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>>17483613
You are confusing time fairies with rarity CR fairies. He's talking about latter.

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>>17483613
Eventually you'll be getting quite a few from the 3rd scene quests and certain event rewards (notably, item collection milestones).

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>>17483621
The fairy in the trading post is a time fairy and does net you a guaranteed CR.

>>17483613
You do get them for free once in a while, as >>17483626 says. But CRing is a very long-term business, I started with the original Metus event and I only have 3 shrine girls at mincost, 4 at -2 CR and 4-5 at -1 CR thanks to the fairies.

But cost generally isn't a big issue, especially after you get some CRs on your early deployment units like archers, healers and especially soldiers.

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>>17483665
Ok, it's just that ever since I CC'd Katie I feel like my units are too high cost to deal with some maps like spirits daily H

And I'm not strong enough to do the Katie gold rush map, at least I doubt I am

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>>17483686
>And I'm not strong enough to do the Katie gold rush map
Drops are guaranteed on the first run and all you gotta do is kill 11 mooks, I think even Bashira at max level without even CCing can do that, and even if she dies, there's only 19 other enemies in the map, you can't fail the stage once you get the 11 kills.
And that's assuming you literally never deploy any other unit.

[Anonymous No.]

Dropped everything into trying to get Metatron.

Oh well, now I have almost all Rs and SRs to toy around with.

[Anonymous No.]

>All my shit needs these silver mages to CC
fuck

Also are rogues worth using at all? I only have Cecily and Cypria right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483686
>>17483705
It's also worth noting that everybody gets a free Alegria (experience fairy for gold rarity) per day for this week, which goes a long way in emergency leveling useful golds like Iris, Margeret, Reno, Mehlis and Claire that you may have.

Also, if you're the fellow waiting on Zenobia with 93 SCs, many of your silver/gold units may become obsolete once you get to 150 SC and roll your first shrine batch. You're sure to get at least 2 shrine units that way (using 150 SC in a month entitles you to a summon ticket that only contains platinum/black shrine units, and you can buy another of these tickets for 500 rainbow crystals, which you'll reach in 30 rolls), and likely to have about 4-5 to get you started.

Well, that's only if Zenobia actually gets featured again by that time, though.

>>17483758
They deal good damage and are a nice option to have due to their low cost (so you can use them to block an escaping wolf or something in rush maps), but their dodge is somewhat unreliable for high-tier content.

Cypria has a pretty useful SAW, though. Not amazing, but she's definitely a workable unit if you want to raise her.

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>>17483686
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHz538fjds0
Here's a 1-unit run for reference.

[Anonymous No.]

So, what is Dullahan's Ragnarok gimmick?

Any recommended light team compositions vs her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483845
She has 1 turn dooms and decrepify and not much else. Bring cleanse if anything and pound her hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483665
Sorry, you're right, I was confused about the skill fairy with the tiny hat. Thought she was cost for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483758
If you have AW Berna, sure.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm, there's no announcement for the next weekly revival after Roana, guess they're stopping it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483960
One year worth of semen

[Anonymous No.]

>>17483054
>Meteor
Wait, Meteor is good? Her start time and reuse are terrible.

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>>17484024
If you have time to run her skill timer down, her meteors hit harder than Aisha's, even before she got SAW. She doesn't have the range Aisha does, but it's still pretty good range (300/400).

She easily has one of the better damage skills in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

What should I do with units I dont want like this gold blacksmith guy I keep rolling in Aigis? just keep him? or is there benefits to dismissing gold+ units

[Anonymous No.]

>>17484337
you get rainbow crystals. build enough you can save up for platinum cards.

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>>17484337

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>>17484343
>>17484348
Is discharging blacks even worth it? And are the tickets their own pool or do they take into account the active gacha?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17484367
No, there is no reason to discharge blacks that aren't dupes. And it's any gacha black/plat, I don't think chance ups matter.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, another free pick-your-5* ticket on DMM FKG.

[Anonymous No.]

Nutakupleb here, working on my Fire lineup. Currently have Ares, Svarog, Amaterasu and Agni in my main team with Brynhildr and Motu as subs. Any future fire element kamihime I should keep my eyes on? Any recommended setups? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17484582
There's a bit of a problem with fire: you definitely want Belial, the 100% fire eidolon, however it comes with Uriel which will be THE worst SSR hime until they will fix her, and IIRC she's not even 15x, just 5x. On the other hand, you also want Daji (DATA up, Berserk) which comes right after Belial/Uriel, so if went all in with Belial, you might run out of jewels to get Daji. You will be able to miracle ticket her at some point (not the first time) if you have miracle tickets on Nutaku. Mars, which comes after Daji is also good but again, you''ll probably have no crystals at this point. They're all close together so be careful and plan accurately. As always, sheer skill with the gacha is what you really need, just pull everything with a single 10 roll and you'll be good. Svarog will awaken to be one of the strongest attackers around, awakened Ares is also ok I guess. Skip Enma.
Also of note should be Takemikadzuchi (SR), but she's in between Belial and Daji so again, not enough time to get them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17484657
What about Beelzebub after Mars?
She has party rampage as well, and hers has 6T CD with 3T uptime, meaning if you use hers first and then Daji's when it runs out you can be under rampage for 5 out of every 6 turns, and that's super silly.

[Anonymous No.]

I for one am somewhat ready for our new overlords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485336
Yo, lemme get in on this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17484966
The problem with Beelz is that by the time she's introduced you will want your team to be geared towards long fights (soloing Disastre, off-element event Ragna and now Guild Order. Especially Guild Order). And she's pretty terrible at those. The chances of her dying are high when mobs triple attack for 2.5k/hit and having your team with no skill/burst for 5 turns might just mean your whole team will die to a charge attack (we're talking about 15k+ AOE damage here). For everything else, you simply don't need the extreme firepower granted by 5/6 turns of berserk. If fire isn't your main party and you use it only on element/you whale and have 20k HP, then she's silly strong of course, but those conditions are rather limiting, in my opinion.
> and hers has 6T CD with 3T uptime
It becomes a 5T uptime at +. I guess some people might want to avoid leveling it up, but still it's pretty messy.

Well, she's very far away so it doesn't make much sense to make calculation based on her if you're on Nutaku anyways. When the time comes, I'd personally save for either Summer Sol reissue or Summer Metatron instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485336
Marry Kill Fuck

In that order

[Anonymous No.]

>>17484570
I thought the 2.5 year anniversary thing was a gimmick, but turns out that they're serious about it. Well, I guess that's FKG for you.

Who are you folks going to pick? I'm almost certain to go for Iris, though Pineapple and Yarrow are pretty tempting too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485463
Wait, Summer Meta is actually good? Or is it just because of her being limited as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485526
I'm between Hop and Flamingo Plant. I picked Iris for the 2-year seed; it was totally worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485526
Toad Lily summer. I can't roll her during last time

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485485
>fucks the boring girl instead of the expert dick bully
Anon, why?

[Anonymous No.]

do silvers need max SLv to get their abilities or just lv55 is enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485651
The latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485546
Both. She's good, especially if you have Daji+Jeanne(+Adramelech+Ikaros...), then she can basically burst every 3 turns or so on average with extra damage.
It's not like there are many other good choices to begin with, Enma and Ares are meh at best, so what's left (Assuming Amaterasu, Svarog and Daji as base) are Mars, post-fix Uriel, Summer Sol, Summer Met, and being at 12 SSRs it's unlikely fire will get another any time soon (most other elements are at 10 more or less). She's cute too, I'd roll. Actually I rolled for both Met and Sol and got nothing but that's just me and my shit luck at work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485657
I have made a horrible mistake

[Anonymous No.]

Are either of these DMM point bundle things on aigis any good if I don't care about being not f2p?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485737
if you think you are struggling in a level, it can help you get the 3 stars

[Wata No.]

>>17485336
>>17485444
450 SC on her during rate up and I still can't get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485791
Yeah got her on last pick-up she was in with Aisha, Estelle, Kibahime. Got all of them but kibahime in 300.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485791
>>17486271
Yeah i've spent 200 or so trying and failed, hopefully next pickup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17486271
I tried rolling during that pickup. Nothing in ~130 SC.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw was gonna save up the entire month but they put Clarice and then Altair back to back on spotlight

[Anonymous No.]

UI Updates:
-Story Missions will now be split by arc
-Dailies/Story will have an Info button that provides data on enemies and drops
-AW Orbs UI will be reworked; you can now click them to confirm data?

-Len revival
-Jungle 4* Challenges
-Sta/Cha now overflow on Rankup

I guess the next AW reveal will be on the 24th. Shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17487150
>overflow
Nice

[Anonymous No.]

Kamihime question? Any good strategy for using tickets for Dullahan? Is there any bug with drop rates right now? Should I stockpile tickets until the end of the event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17487374
I use them at the end of a day. So far, I got only 1 Dullahan out of maybe 200 tickets. Doubt the drops are bugged, as I've seen friends with them already MLB.

[Anonymous No.]

So, did anyone manage to kill sphinxes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17487898
Yes, but not all three in one go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17487898
Managed to burst one down with Frederica and Daisy. But that god-beast event is going to be a real pain on my end, the only status-immune unit I have is the unhealable Racua.

On other news, I logged on Girls Symphony on a whim and turns out that it got a yucca before FKG... sort of, since it's actually Jukka. I think the referenced musician (Jukka Kuoppamäki?) is still alive too, and getting to see people draw a cute girl based on your accomplishments is clearly one of the greatest honors one can have, so good for him.

[Anonymous No.]

do anyone know the artist of Harem Heroes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488173
what, you want to call him out on plagiarizing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488202
No I don't even know what I could do with his nick/name but I like his work.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate raid events. Due to player interaction the lag is much worse, they're not fun and take longer to complete
Rewards are good though

[Anonymous No.]

gold cost for awakenings is too harsh, I wish they'd lower it a bit

[Anonymous No.]

Will Aigis ever be playable

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488704
If you mean Aigis is still running like shit on your browser, try Opera v18.0.1284.68

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488894
>use opera to play all my browser kusoge
>kamihime stops working after a "chrome update"
>don't even have chrome installed
How does nutaku do this lads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488894
no I mean will Goddess Aigis ever be playable

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488960
>"chrome update"
>credit card stops working
I should have used paypal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488980
She technically was, for a day at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488960
Dunno

I switched from Opera to Chrome due to it just running the kusoges better.

Haven't had any issues beyond the standard raid crashing, despite abusing my RAM to it's limits all the time. Even now with the chrome 60 "issues".

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489011
kewl as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488980
She was, but faggot Dan ruined it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489081
The game works fine on my firefox, but its my main browser and its super inconvenient to play in it
I installed Iron like people recommended, got same freezes as I do in Opera

I dunno what to think at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489114
Try firefox dev or palemoon

[Anonymous No.]

>>17485737
Yes, both of them give SC on top of the other stuff btw. So it's not like you're trading in Points for Affection Items and stuff, you're trading in Points for SC + all the other bonuses that come with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17487150
Is it too late to expect a new unit announcement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489396
Drop boost week == no events/units.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489011
is it there more animations like this from aigis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489602
If you mean the unit, there's an idle sprite and a single frame death sprite.

If you meant the game in general, wikianon makes them by request here:
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Kuremisago/Sprite_Gifs

[Anonymous No.]

Damn half-anniversary for Nutaku Kamipro already

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489711
How time flies. Has RNG been kind to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489763
Yeah so far so good.
4 SSRs Aphro,Shiva, Michael and Acala.

Wish I had a Dark one, but Im not complaining with the results

[Anonymous No.]

>roll 100 SC in aigis
>no blacks, two dupe plats
JUST

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490010

[Anonymous No.]

If I'm going to buy SC in Aigis I might as well get this 10k DMM point thing right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490149
Yes, the additional goodies make it VERY worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490149
It is a good investment yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17489624
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490157
>>17490159
Are the two blessing spirits something that gets used after CC? Or awakening

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490170
The 2 spirits give 150k exp each, which is enough to take a unit from 1->99. You should only be using them on a freshly AWed black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490170
You use them after awakening for a free 1 to 99
use on girls that will gain a lot of power from being 99 like anya, hibari etc

[Anonymous No.]

When the FUCK can I get Liana again in Aigis

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490197
I'm thinking by the end of the year. The revival schedule has basically looped back around to the beginning, and there are about 10 more revivable events in between Len's and Liana's.

[Anonymous No.]

What are Onis good for in Aigis? Are they super bandits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490396
Pretty much, they also attack all nearby ground enemies.
Kibahime is the cutest too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490423
I got two Itsukis instead, I just wanted a chance at Deine RIP

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490396
>>17490445

Huge damage AoE brutes. At the cost of needing more sortie points they have ridiculous amount of health. Pretty good for clearing out mobs of units like in subjugation maps or for off-tanking non-boss minions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490458
Better than Fuuko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490423
One day I'll be blessed to get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490518
They both have their upsides and downsides.

Itsuki is physical, and has 2k more health than Fuuko. 1.2 damage increase against undeads and demons. She's something you can just drop in front of a big unit and she will probably survive.

Fuuko's downside is she starts out ranged, so you gotta wait 17.5 seconds to do melee. When she is in melee though, she isn't as tanky, does magic damage, and I'm pretty sure her attack speed is slower.

So generally, it depends on the situation. Fuuko's flight form though is something to take advantage of, assuming you do not have other units who do the same thing such as Faa (monkey girl), Konoha (tengu), Nataku (spear wielding hermit).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17487150
>-Sta/Cha now overflow on Rankup
Holy fuck if Nutaku Aigis will have to wait 3 years to get this feature then I will go apeshit on Nordland on ULMF

[Anonymous No.]

>>17488980
Who cares about playable, when will she be fuckable????

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490576
Fuuko doesn't do magic damage.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't get this blasted last drop from the sphinx level. Does the gold that map drops even sell for 20 of those crystals? If not then I'm not going to bother anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491058
It's actually the gold Avenger you can sometimes buy off the trading post
He sells for 1 RC though

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491183
Oh lame, this mission is just a waste of time then.

[Anonymous No.]

So did Aigis get harder in the past two years or something? I am having trouble with the AW Orb dailies, specifically White Archer and Legendary Pirate. All the video guides I can find (poor troopers, VP games) seem to no longer work insofar as I can tell, since I can copy their layout with the same units and still leak like an old faucet. Is there some buff I'm not getting or did the difficulty get harder, rendering the guides on youtube obsolete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491203
But think of all the units you could AW by having a gold
Avenger, right

[Anonymous No.]

>everyone rejoices at Guild Order, finally something challenging
>turns out it's literally a joke: "you thought this was hard? Too bad you don't have to actually beat it to get the rewards".
Well played, Kamipro devs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491280
Really?
Aren't there some mission points you can't get unless you actually clear it?
And IIRC there's only 10 MP available right now despite the reward milestones capping at 20.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491261
The game is largely unchanged as those maps are concerned. Some balance tweaks have happened, but very little stat reduction has occurred. Valkyries got a stat cut in exchange for a cost reduction and chrono witches literally just got an attack cut and cost increase in exchange for being able to hit two units at once, but those are the only reductions I can remember.

Should work the same as always since those maps haven't been touched at all. Check some of the JP YT channels. Atarimesan has some pretty fool-proof strategies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491295
Half of them actually required you to clear the quest with certain conditions, like using specific Soul or hime types.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491261
>>17491359
Sorry, that's for DMM, and I guess you might be playing Nutaku. Same strategy videos should apply, but ignore the thing about chrono witches since Nutaku doesn't have them. I think they already got the valkyrie adjustments, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491295
Yes but you still get 2 crystals without clearing it. People who complete everything will simply be a couple of weeks ahead of people who can't go past stage 4. They actually haven't locked any "otherwise unobtainable whatever" behind actually beating the boss. Similar to off-element raid missions, where they just give you event tickets.
It's like they don't understand the concept of game progression: which kind of game rewards winning by simply giving you twice the stuff you get from losing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491359
Thanks for the heads up. Atarimesan looks like he has some good stuff. Shame his deployment for Legendary Pirate involves Bashira as the first unit.

I'm starting to think that Bashira and Spica are basically two units you absolutely must have to play this game. I started before she was the tutorial unit, and the Shrine hates me. Having no multishot archer seems to gimp my deployment every other map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491398
You can possibly replace her with a capped Daniela depending on the enemy, but Spica's a different story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491406
Not him, but are Clair and Yukata Daniela good enough until I get Spica?

[Anonymous No.]

Goddamn Pale Rider, the artists of Kamihime Pro know all my strike zones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491470
this tbqh she's qt as hell.
inb4 her scenes are getting lost in the forest and getting raped

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491453
Claire will be good. She's a great gold worth taking all the way if you wanted. Yukata Daniela is basically just an improved version of the regular Daniela, so she should be good, too.

I can't say they'll replace Spica, as Spica's value lies in her AW passive, but they'll be solid archers for sure, and it never hurts to have 3-4 good archers even after you do get her.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we know when Aria, Beatricia or Echidna are getting a re-run

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490518
With Itsuki, better at clearing, but nowhere near as good at tanking unless you're tanking Magic or if True Damage becomes a real thing for enemy auto-attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

What should my core set of units be for Aigis if I'm just aiming to begin being able to 3* daily revival/new event maps?

Like how many of each unit CC'd should I have

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491624
It's vague to suggest something like that, get like 2 healers, 2 archers, a heavy, a soldier and fill the rest in with what you have / like such as mages, wizards, and other useful ranged. More CCs / AWs the better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491645
For Healer's who's better Alissa or this Gold dude (Roberto or some shit)

And what about characters like Princesses, Bandits, Rogues, Royal Guard, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

is aigis down or something

[Anonymous No.]

How do eidolons work? Do their Atk and Hp just get added to your himes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490663
Wait, really? I used her for one of the maps on the latest Majin and she was doing damaged to the armored guys.

>>17491624
One soldier, 2 Healers, 2 Archers, a mixture of magic damage (Mage, Witch, Princess, Fencer, etc.), 1-2 off tanks, Mage Armor/HA are optional. Units with auto-retreat built in are good for blind runs. Usually it's best to just make a team of units that do heavy amounts of damage so defense doesn't become an issue.

>>17491679
Golden Alissa is better, also the best silver healer.
Sedis/Chydis is purchasable on the shop, and you usually only need one copy, then reduce her by one more via another copy or platinum reduction fairy. She is good, having a long range and attack, but is very fragile.
Juno gives 7% buff to other healers, but unlike other healers turns into an attacking unit (similar to Necromancers) when you use her skill. She's part of the revival section so you can get her whenever it's up.
Liana, who gets revived at least once a year, is pretty good. Has the unique ability to free units from stun, and she has a very long range. However due to being black, it's gonna take a lot of resources to cost reduce her.

Royal Guards are honestly kinda bleh. I see very little point to use them.

Princesses are pretty strong depending on who you have. Melee magic damage is pretty rare.

Bandits are good as off tanks. You can drop them off someone on the corner with a healer and most of the time they won't die due to their large amounts of health. When you AW them, they all get Gold Get and they get a 50% attack increase against armored units.

Rogues are tricky. Early on in the game, they're a good unit to drop and assassinate certain units. If there's a line of enemies for example: Soldier, Soldier, HA, and Mage, you drop the Rogue to kill the mage and quickly retreat her. Later on, Cypria, Sayo, Seven, are all used for defensive purposes. Betty is used for gold get, Cypria mostly used for her increase rate on female affection items. Ada is sadly kinda useless.

If there's any other class you're curious about just ask because I'm running out of space.

>>17491687
Maintenance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491798
>Royal Guards are honestly kinda bleh. I see very little point to use them.
>tfw my single gacha black is Mireille
>10 rainbow faeries trying to get her to to 5/5 and still no success

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491798
The princess I have is Melvina

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491806
If you love Mireilla, forget everything I say. Aigis isn't about using the best team, it's about loving your girls and using all of them as much as you can to show your love. To be honest, I do not know how fast Royal Guards can deal damage I never used either of my Royal Guards, mostly because I feel like my Alice just does a better job. Maybe I'm wrong. She looks like a good off-tank.

>>17491808
>Melvina
Ouch. She's great as a stun bot but mostly that's it. The other princesses all have good offense/defense capabilities, but Melvina really just looks like she is only used for her passive. Stunning units can be great, since it lowers their defenses and you have time to place down units or wait for skills. Still, she has the princess ability to do melee magic damage which can help against physical resisted enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491798
>Ada is sadly kinda useless
sad, she's the cutest one outside of Cecily and Berna

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491830
If you love her, use her anyways. I just don't know what she can do except assassinate certain units.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491823
I feel like Mireille will only really shine after I get her SAW to bounce back all the damage and get enough HP totals to tank the damage she's bouncing off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491857
SAWs are usually an upgrade. I can count on my hand how many units that don't need SAWs.

[Anonymous No.]

How are Len and Lin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491879
>Len
Good for tanking, not sure if she's better than Leona since negating damage is a crazy ability.

>Lin
Really good after she got her SAW. I feel like monks are underrated class. They can off-tank, some of them can clear waves with good AoE, they do a lot of damage, and they're pretty cheap to deploy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491485
She is afraid her inexperience will leave MC-kun unsatisfied, so she kidnaps the first villagers and rape-practices on him. Hot scene though.

>>17491700
Exactly so.

[Anonymous No.]

>a year after Pale Rider is introduced, White, Red or Black Rider are still yet to be seen in DMM
Come again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491823
>>17491857
Royal guards are all about defense. Mireille is one of the best tanks you can have with high HP, defense and a really long skill duration. She won't be as useful for dailies, but you should keep her in mind when you plan to tank strong enemies such as golems in later maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17491470
>dat assfang
DAMN

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490638
Yea, what is sex with the Aigis Goddess like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17490010
>spend 100 SC
>get 2 blacks

Get on my level

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492362
Like this, maybe
https://exhentai.org/g/1009422/de7ad82ba1/

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492362
Imagine a pussy as hot and welcoming as a warmed up new onahole.

Breast softer than the most well made oppai pad.

And ass so plump but firm you could've sworn you were touching an unused dakimakura.

[Anonymous No.]

when's gold Cecily

she deserves better

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492212
What's the regeneration rate for Royal Guards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492436
>gold Cecily
>assassination III
>SAW is either a buff on assassination, ATK or def
I love Cecily, but I do not trust devs on making a good Rogue.

>>17492467
20 HP/0.5

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492379
So, it is what dreams are made of

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492490
Only thing she doesn't have is the anal sucking capacity that is Chloe's butthole.

[Anonymous No.]

If anyone remembers what I said about the game giving me a bunch of light SRs and that I'd need an SSR to even care... Well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492527
Is that your only SSR? What rank are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492537
It's ordered by newest acquisition.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else getting
"ただいまアクセスが集中しております。 しばらくお待ちください。"
When trying to login to DMM. Happens on both mobile and PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492685
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492685
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

Cool UI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492923
Also, in-game list of dailies so you don't have to check wiki for orbs.

[Anonymous No.]

Table with days of week when they drop, and list of classes which need this orb when clicked.

[Anonymous No.]

How many awakened units do you need to clear the map that gives the skill awakening fairy? Can you clear it with just Spica?

I only have Spica and B. Iris awakened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492946
they throw out Saki, Sybilla, Dine and Aisha at you. you're gonna need more than that. I don't remember how newbies can do the map, you probably have to just find a video.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492942
Finally. That is so much more useful. I don't know why they removed the orb symbols before, it was so annoying to read through everything.

[Anonymous No.]

It feels like such a waste to grind for one type of orb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492966
>>17492942
Don't you guys just hate Thursdays? Only useful one is Magic Fencer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493029
My only RFs are Charlotte and Anemone so not even that really

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493043
RF orbs are needed by shitton of other classes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493029
I hate Mondays even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493043
Princesses, Dragon Princesses, Swordmasters, and others I'm sure I'm forgetting.

>>17493049
Right, Mondays suck too. If only they put Healer, Fencers, Mages, and Valkyrie on the same day. 5th drop can be rogue or witch or soldier or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17492951
Just checked the videos on youtube. Welp, guess I won't be SAWing shit for a long while.

Is there any other way to get SAW fairies besides that map?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493064
It's just princesses, dragon princesses, and majins. Rune fencers too. Swordmasters require rune fencers but not the rune fencer orbs.
There are a lot of princesses, though.

[Anonymous No.]

New guild order shit on kamihime.
FYI your soul doesn't count for the one of each kamihime type (attack, balance, defence, healer, tricky) mission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493078
Labyrinth maps. I think you're getting way ahead of yourself anyways. Spica and B. Iris are one of the few units that don't need SAW. Spica is arguable, but I prefer her range increase and attack.

>>17493086
I felt like I was wrong on SM's but I didn't bother checking.

[Anonymous No.]

Hurrah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493094
> B. Iris doesn't need SAW
Dude, what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493108
So, unless I'm retarded, is there any point to her SAW? Using her in majin maps or long story maps is pretty good because some maps usually have two big waves to deal with. Those are two good times to use her skill.

You're unable to do that when you SAW her. And while the buff is better, it is not going to make your characters able to tank bosses like Majins or any other enemy intended to one shot your units. Especially since most Majins do magic damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493131
Recharge is only 40 sec longer in exchange for much bigger def buff, 20 sec longer skill uptime and boosted healing rate.
80 sec of uptime is enough to deal with almost all cases of this buff actually being needed, including majin maps. You can tank earlier waves w/out it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493148
I feel like you would have to prematurely activate her skill so you can time it to be active for both waves. 2 minutes is kind of a really long recharge time. It feels like SAW would be a bit better on Shuten Douji and Agares, but irrelevant on the other maps. Story map Magic City and Jungle might prefer this too, but I am not sure by how much.

I guess for a newbie that doesn't have much gacha units could benefit a lot from the buff since your weak units will be better. By end game, tanking and defense ends up meaning little when you can just deal shit tons of damage instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493177
>By end game, tanking and defense ends up meaning little
Did you even try clearing Furfur above lv5 yourself?
You get flooded by high-attack demons from all sides, plus reflected damage from furfur and his bats, you need tons of healing power and tons of def buffs. Many videos use B. iris, and all of these have her SAWed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493207
>Did you even try clearing Furfur above lv5 yourself?

Yes, and I did lvl.10 without her SAW. That part isn't even hard, it's Furfur himself and the last wave of the bats.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally got holy grail of daily missions, single team which can clear all kami+AWThief dailies

[Anonymous No.]

so is that swimsuit Elaine any good if I don't have any valks?
the 10% defense penalty doesn't look too major considering 50% dodge is the tradeoff

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493305
Very good. You got better Carrie and she can tank magic damage with hug HP boost and it's globat buff too
Carrie plat when? She's mascot of the game at one point

[Anonymous No.]

Wanted Maple but zoinks scoob
Nutaku FKG continues to bribe me to play it over DMM's

[Anonymous No.]

What's the desert map for exp grinding in Aigis again? How much better is it than Return to Ruins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493902
Base scramble II is the best for a very long while, especially during 1.5x drop rate ups. 2 iron soldiers, 2 bronze soldiers and 2 bronzes for any class all at lvl 20 and for 40 charisma make it great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493902
What is your team? It's best to buy shop buff and get AW prince then farming at jungle maps

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493938
Cloris CC
Katie CC
Iris (Gold) CC
Daniela (Gold) CC
Amanda CC
Mordebait CC
Cecily
Daniela
Leeanne
Alissa
Odette
Momiji
Kerry
Melvina

And then for golds/plats I have that aren't in my team

Mehlis, Maribel, dark skin plat Dancer, Waltz, Cypria, Clair, Leona, Emilia, Adele, Eliza, Rachel, gold ninja girl, Itsuki

[Anonymous No.]

We are getting a trade-post rotation in Nutaku Aigis tonight. If any of you still hasn't got Chydis it might be a good idea to use today's boosted daily to get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493952
You team doesn't strong enough, just farming at Base scramble II, use SCs at this droprate event in Monday daillies to CC more unit. Level up more healer, atleast 3 healers , 2 archers, Clair is very good, 2 mages, Odette is good. CC Leona and level up her skill to 4, don't forget Itsuki, just level up her some level here and there, she will be your key unit for AW prince maps

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494049
>CC Leona and level up her skill to 4
I don't have skill fairies though

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494049
I forgot to mention I also have the blonde little girl canon unit (Gold), the Royal guard chick from the beginner pack and the Gold thief who does drop rate shit or something. Not the rogue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17493902
Either Base Scramble II or Oasis. Either could be a little better for you than the other depending on things like your leveling habits and gold reserves, but those are the two best to use pretty much up until you unlock the bonus orc map in the jungle chapter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494072
Well, you can run current subjugation map, then use skill fairies for Daniela(gold) and Clair first, archer with Att up III is very important. Leona after that.
>>17494077
Canon and thief aren't very useful in early game, you can ignore them.
>Royal guard chick
She is your main tank if you didn't rolled any good tanker, but her block 2 is her downside

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494171
Is Adele better than Belinda (Who I don't have but once she's revived I will)?

I'm pretty deadset on using Cloris since she's one of the units who got me into the game so she's not getting dropped. Also is Anna good for anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494220
Belinda is better.

Adele's skills have attack+, but Belinda's SAW has more attack+ as well as a range boost, and her AW passive will boost the attack of all witches in the party, including your Cloris.

Anna isn't good for much. You can throw her into a party if you just need a slot filler just to give the prince a passive buff, but I wouldn't bother deploying her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494220
Adele is a great witch, boosts everyones health by 10% on AW, she never leaves my team even though I have a better witch. Adele is much better than Belinda.

[Anonymous No.]

What are Sailors good for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494241
>Adele is much better than Belinda.
Nah, son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494252
Delivering large packs of AoE damage over short time from melee slots. They are used in subjugation events and majin events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494261
>Subjugation events
That's like the sea monster swarm thing that's going on right now right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494264
Yes.
But you'd need them SAWed to be effective.

[Anonymous No.]

How often does the trading post rotate? I want Louise and Spica

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494241
This guy is right. You don't use witch much when your team is strong enough, and 10% HP boost is fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494273
DMM - About once a month
Nutaku - Nobody fucking knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494284
I'm on DMM, so I guess I'll wait a few more weeks.

Is there any rhyme or reason to revival events order by the way? I know the daily revival order but not the actual events

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494256
Look at their SAW timers, Belindas are hot shit at 75 and 37.5 for 2x damage and range for 30 seconds, Adeles are 45 and 22.5 for 1.6x AOE damage for 35 (+30%) seconds.
If you want you can even use Adeles normal skill for 1.9x damage for 45 (+30%) seconds with 25 and 12.5 seconds reuse and initial timers.
The only thing Belinda has is range with skill, outside of skill its 10 less than Adele and about 70 attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494301
Are you using Adele's skill every time it's up on normal mobs are are you holding it for something it actually matters on? I'm betting it's the latter, which is where Belinda excels over her anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494306
Not him but I'd rather use Adele purely for the AoE damage as a pseudo Despia with more range but less speed. Add a Towa as well to cover the latter.
The 10% HP is the best part, though.

[Anonymous No.]

How hard is it to get 200 demon crystals once you have a decent team? Or rather how long does it take. Getting time and demon crystals seems rough as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494401
The most you can get from a single god-tier run of the daily is 21.

But that said, you can have 200 in like two weeks or so on DMM due to the crystal daily running twice a week. I don't remember if Nutaku has the updated schedule or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494459
Nutaku only have 1 daily of it a week and its the same, only fairy daily is twice a week with unique droprates to Nutaku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494867
I'm surprised they gave the Nutaku version orb dailies and SAW dailies on the weekend and didn't update the schedule to have repeats for crystals/gold.

Actually, I guess I'm not that surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494306
Well first off, even if you are saving the skill for a boss, normally you'd like to be able to use the skill more than once per map unless it's an absolutely game-changing skill like Saint Iris's 2.5x Ally Def Buff or Lapis' 1.5x Ally Attack Buff, or something like Narsus/Aisha map clear. Even in that case, Adele is still way, way better. There's a reason people shit over units with the generic Range Up skills while preferring units with Attack Multiplier. The ONLY time a Range Up skill is actually useful is if it lets you hit a stationary boss that you wouldn't otherwise be able to, and then hopefully kill it before it starts moving. Or if it lets you hit enemies that are locked into melee combat in an area the ranged unit can't normally reach because you want to keep them outside of an enemy aura/AoE (which is usually only just to make the map end faster). For the stationary boss especially, you want good duration/cooldown ratio (which Bellinda definitely doesn't have). Have you even done anything more difficult than generic God-tier maps? There's tons of Subjugations and Majins where you want to use a skill multiple times within the same run, especially if it's something like just Self-Attack 2x and Self-Range 2x. No seriously, go look up any decent level Majins. Do they use their units' skills only once? They rotate their skills pretty damn frequently, because boss and sub-bosses don't die in a single skill activation, or they're replaced by even more sub-bosses.

>>17494220
I imagine Anna (Beach Anna especially) might have some uses for low level f2p players for buffing their AW Prince during Subjugations, but not much use outside of that. People usually don't even bring her along for the Prince Title Buffs, since the free slot is more important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494878
Yeah its not that surprising, still atleast we get to roll around with our 2x 100% drop rate for plat fairys.
The game is in a incredibly solid position now, no sign whatsoever of how things used to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494883
You know how you can convince me of how to use witches against high level majins? Find me someone who actually uses witches in high level majins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494935
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31647305

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495048
Oh, wow. Look at that.

Belinda. SAW Belinda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495062
I'm not the guy you were talking to earlier, just kinda skimmed through your conversation and linked a video because you asked.

Witches are kinda niche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495105
Wasn't looking to crucify you over the video or anything, so both sorry and thanks. I just like that as rare as a witch is in high level majins, it turned out to be literally the exact one I'm arguing for.

I admittedly could find a video or two with a Despia, too, but I don't know that black units necessarily count by virtue of being black units and inherently way better than their class. Even checking that chart up there, you can see that Despia's DPS far outclasses any other witch by roughly twice as much or more no matter which AW2 you take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495143
Well, as you can also see in the video Ryuryu was used. Prim was used too in other videos and she has her own niche. Figuneria is a mini-Despia and probably the second best platinum Witch because of her SAW. Not to say witches are super strong but they do have uses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495143
Yeah one of the few witches I saw in last majinn videos was Despia, most people who bother posting them have great units anyway and mostly see double demon summoners / miyabi.

[Anonymous No.]

Opinions on using golds for awakening? Or should that be a last resort? I don't know if it's better to level up a silver for it or just nuke a duplicate gold. Of course, they're all duplicates, I wouldn't use my only copy for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>yes thank you Nutaku for taking out the meta-event out of the game so I miss out on half the rewards I'm so thankful I don't have to experience the same content DMM got and get fucked on lower rewards please shit down my mouth sirs, please

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495354
You get crystals deposited directly into your accounts for posts like those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495351
I wouldn't recommend it, personally. At the very least they tend to be worth the 20 rainbow crystals moreso than the low-effort AW fodder.

It's only 4000 EXP to take a silver from 1 to 30 for CC, obviously less if you have a higher starting level. The hard part is keeping a supply of silver fairies around.

Exceptions could be made for event golds, as few and far between as they are, since they're worth diddly as rainbow crystals are concerned.

>>17495354
ULMF is cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495438
I completely and entirely forgot about RC. Thanks for the reminder my dude. I'll just grind up some silvers since I have a small surplus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495354
Shut the fuck up, 0nymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495639
Back to ULMF, razisgosu

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495657
no u

Your constant bitching would've been justified a year ago, when we were actually getting droughts of no/gutted content.

Nowadays, Nutaku Aigis isn't perfect, but it's also been the best it's been since those dark times, and your obnoxious "gutted content git fucked gaijin" attitude and unrealistic expectations over the most trivial shit is really fucking grating at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

What's more efficient for just gold, the 6 or 3 stam gold daily?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495945
3

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495722
Are you unironically going Nutaku Defense Force mode on fucking /jp/?
Don't you have shit to eat somewhere else?
From what I see you're getting Katie's first subjugation, Joy is of course just being handed to you and you don't get the DC reward, which obviously sucks, 160 DC is roughly two weeks of farming on mission alone... and that's on DMM where it's bi-weekly.
Instead you take the knee and suck Nutaku's dick being all grateful that you have events at all?
I'm speechless. I guess EOPs get the treatment they deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17494401
Easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>Three 60 charisma 3 stamina gold armor dailies
>No plat drops
Nice "higher drop" meme DMM shills

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496314
>60/3 for plat cans
You poor boy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496326
Is there a better one? I can't do the high level one

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496292
It's called being fucking realistic.

You really think they'd scale a 375 million server-wide kill reward for Nutaku population? No, the easier thing to do would just be to drop it. It sucks, but it's hardly what I would call "gutting content".

That's like blaming Dev Tea for not letting Nutaku decide what Maurette's rarity should be on our server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496330
80/3 has highest droprate, 80/6 has more than one chance to drop plat armor

[Anonymous No.]

>>17495722

>Nutaku Aigis may be shit relative to DMM Aigis, but at least it's better than when NOTHING happened, so I'm not complaining :)))
Fucking retard
Good job admitting you're one of ULMF shitters
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496430
>implying >>17495354 wasn't a ULMF shitter too

It's been a while since the thread went to shit over Dev Tea shenanigans. That alone should serve as a testament to their lack of recent fuck-ups.

Unfortunately for you, I'm not going to humor another Nutaku vs. DMM shitstorm for your entertainment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496369
>You really think they'd scale a 375 million server-wide kill reward for Nutaku population?
Yep, they could do exactly that, what's the fucking effort here? Just changing some numbers? They have all the playerbase data.
But they're lazy and the gaijins aren't worth their effort.
More than that, the gaijins are perfectly fine with an inferior version of their game. So why fucking bother trying? The cash cow will keep milking itself because people who insist on criticizing Nutaku/DevTea get called "whiners" and people keep fucking bringing up that fucking empty period of no events, like it's some crucial reference point - A PERIOD THAT WAS NEVER MADE UP FOR IN ANY WAY, BY THE WAY, AND LEFT A HOLE FOR CATCHING UP UP TO THIS DAY.

And it looks like a pretty clear content of gutting content to me. 3 SC replaced the plat armor in reward tiers. DC reward scrapped. That shit adds up. You get inferior rewards. Period.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496411
>80/3
I can't clear that I barely have 3 CC units

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496452
>It's been a while since the thread went to shit over Dev Tea shenanigans. That alone should serve as a testament to their lack of recent fuck-ups.
Ahahahah. Right. Because the monitored whale circlejerk over there is a great indicator of content quality. 90% of them having dual accounts on DMM Aigis as well, so they don't even care about Nutaku Aigis quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496466
You call it complacency, I call it being realistic.

Yeah, we never get 60+ SC rewards like DMM did, for the shit they pulled in year 1-2. What's the point in complaining about that now? You should've left Nutaku a long time ago if you were expecting them to ever make up for that. Or at least bitch to them directly about it, not on here or ULMF.

Complaining about the plat armor is nitpicking. You get like 2-3 of them every event these days, not to mention the 2x drop rates every other month. I have like 30 of the damn things sitting around in my mailbox + barracks. We need fairy barracks more.

Losing 160 DCs does suck, but those aren't in terribly short supply either.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Expecting freebies on the same level of DMM is idiotic. I won't say to be thankful, but you're accomplishing nothing by whining to the players about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496508
I'm talking about this thread. Granted, what little Nutaku Aigis discussion left on this thread gets drowned out by Nutaku Kamihime and DMM Aigis/FKG/etc., but the point still applies. Now that Nutaku has a consistent event schedule and hasn't pulled any punches with excluding lolis, no one's complaining.

The ULMF thread actually had several unrelated shitstorms, mostly related to that Angelic faggot. It only took how many years for them to finally ban him for good?

[Anonymous No.]

So I decided to farm for Lin, I got her to SL5 and 10 cost (Pre-CC) should I keep farming or is this serviceable until she comes back again?

[Anonymous No.]

>random maintenance in nutaku kamipro

m-maybe it will finally fix the lag for chrome

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496411
Considering Gold Get and Noel's passice, does 80/3 give more gold for clearing it than 80/6?

[Anonymous No.]

80/3 and 60/3 both give more gold in two runs than 80/6 does in one. But they eat a lot more charisma and 80/3 isn't sustainable for more than a few runs without refills since it eats more charisma than you can generate at the pace of the required stamina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17496805
Canary Beta seemed to work fine for me, if you're still having problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497194
It game runs fine for me as well, although it's a bummer that I can't get browsec to work on it to reroll.

[Anonymous No.]

>Dear Gamers

Event Materials Exchanges for all Advent Battle events ending before 08/02(PDT) will be closed as of 20:00 08/24 (PDT).

Make sure you to exchanged materials with items you got from these event before they're gone!

Thank you for your consideration and continued support.

Sincerely
The Devs

It's over guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497371
N-no

[Anonymous No.]

I started out in nutaku, I was convinced to move.

Thank fuck I moved. All the Nutaku players sound like they're in total agony.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, back to this kind of draw, I see.
That 1/11 5* last week must have been a server error

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497371
explain further.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497422
2 free pots a day on every advent. Never needed to pay real dollars for them.

It's over.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I get Cynthia, Gretel or the dark knight instead of a plat ticket?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497486
Cynthia is mostly only good for very, very long maps. She herself isn't strong, but is a good magnet for magic damage.

Gretel, um, I really am not sure what the purpose is for Dark Stalkers. A tanky Rogue? I honestly have never seen her used.

Dark Knight, generally, is super strong and is used a lot by end gamers. It's like having a tankier, physical damage version of Sybilla. Major downside: You are using a male character.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll just leave this here

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497603
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497486
roll that ticket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497613

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497756
I waited for so long for her to get her glasses back in 2AW too. I feel betrayed, removing a cute girl's glasses should be made a capital offense.

Well, at least we've gotten Pingpong Mum's long-awaited glasses version fairly recently. Leave it to Sasayuki to save the glasses scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>96/97
Who the fuck got away from me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498462
Most likely one of worms

[Anonymous No.]

I can finally fix the fuck up I made early on by CCing Katie as soon as she hit 30? God fucking bless. It's about time Nutaku. Though, skimming the thread, it seems we got jewed on rewards too? That's shitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498120
Removing a girl's glasses is only ever a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

So what the fuck does 'Joy' actually do?
The game gives exactly zero explaination. she has 'no skills'

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498820
Gives 150k exp. Meaning you can raise a black from aw1 to aw99 in one go. Use it wisely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498813
Heads up: You will be hated for this, but only because it is the truth and they will not accept it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498831
holy shit, I guess I'll be holding onto this for a while then, until a good candidate for it arrives.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow fuck this. Why did they lock Joy on the 600 one time kill reward? Only well established player can get her.

I looked at the wiki and Joy was given to every player that got at least 1000 total kills in DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

Not bad for blind run I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498659
160 DC and a plat armor. The DC loss is a bummer, but not a dealbreaker. Plat armor is negligible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17498951
Yep. If you've played Aigis on Nutaku for less than half a year you're basically fucked. You need some strong units to handle the princess rush at the end of the subjugation.
Meanwhile on DMM you did it twice and you got your Joy.

Of course, nobody will bat an eye at this, because ULMF kiddies who are in most direct contact with Nutaku on the issue are all fat whales who can run it blind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499292
>The DC loss is a bummer, but not a dealbreaker.
Crystal Keeper G gives you up to 21 DC per 8 Stamina. Considering it's way below 100% drop rate, let's still round that down to an optimistic 20 DC per run. That's 60 DC per 24 Stamina on Thursday.
That's three weeks of farming Crystal Keeper G alone.
No, not a dealbereaker, but considering we JUST got a third (!!!) TP rotation on Nutaku, it would help a LOT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499402
You really aren't that fucked, just buy the shrine buff and its piss easy, you won't need any AW units.

[Anonymous No.]

>all dailies are available during the weekend now
Jesus christ time to farm affection

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499423
>JUST
>BUY
>THE
>SHRINE
>BUFFS
>GOY

Oh sure let me just have my wallet fix the massive fuck up that is locking a reward behind difficulty gate that wasn't there in the original iteration.

I mean, I did manage to do 600 kills on the event myself, but telling the less experienced players to just buff up is being a dick. Especially because they don't even need the buffs to farm some harder unit farm/item collection event, but need it for one, single mission completion.
Besides, even with the 20% buffs, Sybilla can wipe your team clean if you lack someone who can tank her long enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17497486
Grab based Danchou and then never buy any of the other units (unless you don't have a good rear tactician, then get Leona).

>>17499444
Just for this week, but yeah, I'm hitting the affection maps as hard as I can for the next two days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499447
When you have to buy 7SC just to get the shrine buff you're being retarded especially if you're arguing on the side of newer players.
If you aren't good enough to do it then 7sc for Joy is well worth it, and if you aren't saving about 10-20 sc for events then you're fucking up.
If you got Lyche a little over a month and a half ago you have someone great to tank Sybilla with the 30% buffs.

Not everyone can get everything but its not as half as hard as you're saying if you want it done, don't forget you have almost a month to raise your team up first before you should attempt it if you're fairly new.

[Anonymous No.]

I need black fairies. Is the kami one the best still even on 1.5x drop rate? I was thinking maybe one of the lower missions could be cheaper and more efficient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499505
God tier is the best. Two black fairies can drop and a queen is guaranteed to.

[Anonymous No.]

man why they have to delay Minitary girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499447
>telling the less experienced players to just buff up is being a dick

Name one subjugation that a newbie can be expected to fully clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499447
>telling the less experienced players to just buff up is being a dick

Name one subjugation that a newbie can be expected to fully clear. Without buffs. Or any event, really.

No shit, you're supposed to have a decently rounded team before taking these on to begin with. You don't need an all-AW team, but we're well past the point that most players are expected to have a few of them. Most G maps and star trials are the same thing.

This is exactly what I'm talking about with your incessant whining.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't have Olivie but I have Cornelia and Grace (and whole bunch of AWed event plats). Should I try adopt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLkCq7tPgwY or I need some completely different approach?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499935
He doesn't even touch Olivies skill so using Cornelia and Grace should be overkill in terms of defense, you should be fine so long as you have the recent event units.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499778
>Name one subjugation that a newbie can be expected to fully clear. Without buffs. Or any event, really.
Not that guy but that's the problem. Why the fuck did they put Joy on the highest difficulty? Only whales and long time players can get her.

Seriously why do Nutaku hates newbies? I'm only level 70 there's no way I'm going to perfect the last map even with shrine buffs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499996
Show us your units maybe its possible, you do have just under a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499971
Yeah, didn't need to use Cornelia, turns out Anya can clear pretty much everything herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500079
It's impossible. I only have the core silvers from Katie's quest plus Bashira.

I also have Grace and Ricola but I can't even CC them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500126
You have time and Grace, you can do it if you focus on it. Give me the account and I can do it easy before the times up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499996
The fact that it was given away so easily on DMM honestly feels like an outlier.

Consider the Time Fairy in Anya's event. Newbies couldn't easily get full stars either, not to mention shrine buffs being grossly overpriced back then, so those people were SOL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499996
I'm Lv 140 and can only dream of Joy.

Why must happiness be unreachable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500126
Its pretty hard to have Ricola but not the silvers to CC her considering everyone gets them alongside Ricola, thats a pretty wierd thing to bring up. Do some story missions for the silvers, they're not that hard and they'll give you what you need.

[Anonymous No.]

5/5 FINALLY CHRIST
I must've used like 12 skill faeries on the last level alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500140
We got Happy twice just as easily though.(1000 kills in a subjugation and on a 30/1 GR anniversary map).

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500335
Never again, apparently. Gotta pay for Happy and Joy now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499778
>This is exactly what I'm talking about with your incessant whining.
??? Fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500335
>>17500353
Speaking of which, when can Nutaku expect another Joy?
We're still fucked because we are yet to see black armors, and plat armors are removed from reward pools now too, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>17499778
>Name one subjugation that a newbie can be expected to fully clear. Without buffs. Or any event, really.
Name one subjugation that had the best reward locked behind the full clear and didn't on DMM Aigis. Or any event, really.

A basic fact can't seem to penetrate that thick skull of yours here: the difficulty alone is not the problem. It's the fact you NEED to do the most difficult challenge of the event for a reward that you DIDN'T NEED to do so on the original, DMM iteration of the SAME EVENT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500426
>>17500414
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=1001522&postcount=29107

>>17500426
Name one subjugation that made the second-best reward easier to get on Nutaku than on DMM.

So newbies have to work/whale harder to get Joy, but can also get the 3 SCs way easier. Not the best compromise, but it's not "Nutakufags get cucked" like you'd like to imply.

But let's not delude ourselves here. You're just looking for an excuse to bitch and moan. If the last reward was the SCs instead of Joy, you'd still be bitching, as with that ULMF post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500488
I'd hope everyone would be bitching if the last reward was 3 SCs instead of Joy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500488
>linking to some chucklefuck on ULMF
>/jp/ is one person
Holy FUCK
PLEASE STAY THERE AND NEVER RETURN

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500499
I'm not >>17495354, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>17500497
If Nutaku didn't get Joy whatsoever, then yeah, sure.

But ULMFfag is complaining that it's gated harder than it is on DMM, which while true, isn't worth the tantrum he's throwing.

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>>17500512
Trying to attribute any Anon here to anyone from the outside is fundamentally stupid.
>>17500488
See this is the fucking problem exactly - smug fucks who dig up others' posts and make "counter-arguments" based on them.
Classic Reddit debating tactics. Just fuck off from here with this shit.
>>17500522
Have you considered the fact that maybe.
MAYBE.
More than one person on /jp/ doesn't like Nutaku and what DevTea did this event?

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>>17500529
Most of the people who don't like what Nutaku/DevTea did already moved onto DMM.

Trying to make comparisons to DMM and playing the victim card this late in the game is just stirring the pot.

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Getting 600 is super-easy for everyone but those 0.00000001% of players who started this month. This is simply not an issue.

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New game launched on DMM 18+: http://pc-play.games.dmm.co.jp/play/kibadoh_r/

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>>17500529
Have you considered that all the argueing in this thread started from outside and was essentially admitted to?
Even if you are not the guy that started it all you do write like him and agree with him and its common to assume people are samefags from before reddit even became well known. In the end all everyone argueing about this is doing is shitting up the thread.

If you play on Nutaku fine but don't bitch that it doesn't copy DMM, you've had 2 years of it doing whatever the fuck it wants, now is no different and no amount of bitching has accomplished anything.

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Night Assassin or Enforcer for Berna, I assume former just for disgusting assassinate chance?

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>>17500626
Just AW both

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Anyone got a 600 clear video? Can't find one.

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>>17500694
>>17499935 This guy posted one.

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>>17500694
Can also check the #video_channel on Discord.

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>haven't logged in Nutaku Aigis in a year
>still can clear it without trying in first try
Can't catch some surprising flying shits tho

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>>17500623
>was essentially admitted to

What because somebody posted a screencap off a shitty ULMF post?
You're awfully attached to this whole issue yourself, why are you so butthurt that someone else is butthurt?

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I goof by SAWing Frederica?

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Didn't expect this formation to work, did it pretty much random, based on my older 2 arch - 2 pirate - mirno - swordmaster setup. Constant buffing and power inflation certainly made dailies much easier.

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>>17500817
Actually it was the replies to it that made it clear. As it is all this is is useless bitching that will never get resolved and should've died out years ago.

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>>17500826
Nah. True damage is good, and so is short duration/CD because they allow you to activate her skill on a wave-by-wave basis instead of wasting your uptime between waves. Her SAW is perfectly respectable.

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>>17500817
Good job admitting to being butthurt over something everyone else either put up with or got sick of a year ago.

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>>17500834
that looks like overkill

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>>17500846
>As it is all this is is useless bitching that will never get resolved and should've died out years ago.
Yesss, goy, good goy, don't bother criticizing Nutaku, don't bother criticizing DevTea, be grateful for what you get goy.
You get less rewards? You get less SC? My good goy, you can just BUY more! B U Y more SC with your money if you get less through events!
And be grateful that we allow you to play our grorious waifu tower defense game at all! What's that goy? What about the event schedule hole??? WHAT ABOUT IT??? Do you want me to SHUT NUTAKU AIGIS DOWN???
...
That's what I thought.
Now buy the SC. Good goy.

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>>17500960
If you want to bitch do it where it'll be heard, get back to ULMF or the aigis discord, where Nutaku actually listens to.
I really wish they would shut Nutaku down just so you'd piss off.

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>>17500973
Yes, goy, that's the spirit! Shun all those who dare criticize Nutaku! THEY are the enemy! How DARE they fucking whine that you get an infe- excellent English iteration of our game??

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> opened ULMF first time in a year to down-rate this raving retard
> Lafate post at the top
> closed the tab in disgust
Why it came back? I thought it left ulmf bullies forever.

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>>17501008
>unironically going to an internet forum to give someone le downboats
Neck yourself, seriously.

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Dodged a bullet there.
I would've used miracle ticket on her but got it from single roll meme.
With that finally I got a full main water team.

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>>17502826
Still stuck on Nutaku trying to reroll Ryu-Oh + Aphro/Nike. Grats though.

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>>17497593
>>17497752
>>17499460
I already have a level 99 Leora.

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I hate raid events, they're so damn grindy

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>>17503104
I like them, once you got a decent team you can auto them. Wish the drop rate on +1 weapons/eidolons was higher.

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>>17503131
You can auto any event, but connecting to a raid takes longer than starting a SP quest because of netcode
When you're supposed to grind 300 items, that's a lot of time spend on shitty loading screens before you can press the auto button and alt-tab to something else

[Anonymous No.]

Just realized how much plat stuff I have built up so wondering who the better witch would be between Prim / Figuneria. Was probably gonna use Belinda as the 2nd since I can farm her pretty easily.

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>>17503636
They shit out so many plat units every week, all gold and silver units seem worthless in comparison

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>>17503674
There are plenty of golds you'd keep even in full-black team: KT, Noel, Fedora, Leda, Aria, Mehlis.
Same for silvers, plenty of them are strong enough, but have much lower cost than plats/blacks and thus are usable in certain cases. I'm using Mischa much more often than black/plat valks, for example.

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>>17503636
If I had to pick one it'd be Prim, she has infinite stealth with SAW and a clone that doesn't take up a deployment slot. Though Figuneria is pretty good too and probably better than raising Belinda.
I'd say Belinda is a great witch only for people who don't have 2 plat+ witches.

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Noticed I had 6 shards for a roll, figured I'd try my luck at getting a silver. Immediately got excited when I saw the bright yellow, and what do my eyes see? THE FOURTH. FUCKING. VINCENT. Can you just stop Aigis? Give me something useful instead, Fran can handle things.

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>>17503920
He's there
Always
Watching you from violating his daughteru.

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>>17503928
Listen. Okay. Listen. I saved her. I gave her purpose. I GAVE HER LOVE. And she destroys anything I throw her at.

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>>17503920
Well, that isn't much of a cause for complaint. Free 20 RC is free 20 RC.

>>17503741
I'd say both instead of Belinda too. Prim can be deployed in situations no other witch can, but sometimes you'll want Fignelia's solid DPS and excellent skill uptime instead.

>新イベント「緊急任務　鬼教官と補習授業」の開始に伴い、
Also, upcoming FKG event sounds interesting, given what has been happening in the diary maps. Wonder if it'll tie in with the supporting cast from that storyline.

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>>17503928

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>>17504038
Best dad.

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>>17504435
Indeed.

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new thread
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