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18594937 No.18594937 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't you creating your own doujin works, /jp/? You take so much from otaku culture, but have you ever considered giving back? There's OC threads from time to time, but haven't you ever been a little more ambitious than just a portrait of a cute girl or a single music track? It's really weird you could put out two albums but not a single person other than rika-nipa-wooh guy makes manga, for instance.

Even if it's just a 4koma, how about trying to make a fancomic of whatever otaku things you like, without using some template as a base, and posting it here?

>> No.18595012

>>18594937
Drawing is way too complicated.

>> No.18595013

I'm terribad at writing or coming up with funny relatable jokes.

>> No.18595043

Creating doujin content takes talent, hard work and time. Consuming otaku culture only takes time.

>> No.18595053
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18595053

Dedication and follow-through are not the strong suits of neets. I tried to make a 24 page comic for 24 hour comic day, but it fell through.
I think starting off small with SMART (google it) goals is key to growth.
You're not going to start off with your magnum opus. And its easy to get discouraged when you have unrealistic expectations. I personally set myself up for failure, wanted to make an entire VN when I can't complete a small project.
It has to do with being realistic and accepting where you're at. Then starting small and appreciating the progress you're making even when its slow.

>> No.18595088

>>18594937
Honestly, I have no time. I just study, play touhou and post here. That's how I spend my days.

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18595105

Drawing with a mouse is hard so I gave up after a week.

>> No.18595108

If I post it here jp will hate it.

>> No.18595343 [DELETED] 

>>18595013
Just make a comic about girls discussing whether it's better to each a corndog from the top or from the side.

>>18595043
>takes talent, hard work
No it doesn't. There are plenty of poor quality, scribbly works. All it takes is love.

>>18595053
which is why I suggested people just make a 4koma or similar 1 page comic and post it.

>>18595108
No bully in this thread

>> No.18595349

>>18595013
Just make a comic about girls discussing whether it's better to eat a corndog from the top or from the side.

>>18595043
>takes talent, hard work
No it doesn't. There are plenty of poor quality, scribbly works. All it takes is love.

>>18595053
Which is why I suggested people just make a 4koma or similar 1 page comic and post it.

>>18595108
No bully in this thread

>> No.18595414

>>18595349
Why bother making something if it;s going to be low quality?

>> No.18595434

I made draw thread!!
>>18595249

>> No.18595505
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18595505

rate my oc

>> No.18595517

>>18594937
I intend to draw a short comic (around a dozen pages) about Yuukarin's morning routine immediately once I'm able to draw good-looking faces consistently. Mainly to test how long it takes me to create a page.
My end goal is making great vanilla doujins with her.

Also, the /oc/ thread has had more albums published on bandicamp in the last 12 months than what you say.

>> No.18595519

>>18595414
Doujin spirit. Or to say you could.
What's the point of being negative?

>>18595434
This is a no bully thread so I won't complain about how it's unlike the proper OC thread. Instead I will say I like the idea of a drawing focused, maybe even improvement focused thread. However I made this thread with the expectation of people making stuff like in >>18404672 but as a comic. Stuff like that one umineko 4koma guy, you know the one I mean. Stuff like yassy's doujins that descend into scribbles halfway through. Or even just 4chanesque slightly more detailed stick figure comics.

You should put a link to flockdraw or some oekaki in yours. Maybe people will be at least willing to mess around in an oekaki program.

>> No.18595552

>>18595505
had a giggle/10

>> No.18595568

>>18595517
>Also, the /oc/ thread has had more albums published on bandicamp in the last 12 months than what you say.
I meant /jp/'s actual albums. The compilation ones.

>> No.18595634

>>18595519
Yeah, but I'll be known as the guy that did that bad comic.

>> No.18595654

>>18595505
would buy

>> No.18595973
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>>18595552
>>18595654
thanks for the encouragement
now take a look at my magnum opus

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>>18595634
That spot was taken by me. just kidding.
you can't be remembered as a creator of bad comics if no one remembers you

>> No.18596857

>>18595973
Cartesian af bro

>> No.18597323

>>18594937
I can't draw, even after spending a year trying to learn.
I can't compose any halfway decent music.
I can write but nobody is going to read a wall of text with no images.
I know how to program but making a game requires art and music skills, which I don't have and don't have the ability to learn. I've played around with Danmakufu but was not impresssed, if I made a game I'd probably write it from scratch in C++ using a library like SDL or OpenGL. I'd rather not touch DirectX.

>> No.18597334

>>18595973
>くだっし`

>> No.18597377

his さ doesn't look anything like a っ. you may be dislexic.

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>>18597334
don't bully me ``kudasai´´

>> No.18597509

>>18595505
me on the table

>> No.18597527

because i'm a depressed neet

>> No.18597592
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[ERROR]

I was writing some comics months ago
http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/05/chapter-1.html
http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/08/reikos-love-story-ch-2.html
http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/06/tea-love.html
http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-case-of-dokuza-ch-1.html


But i took a break to work on art. (pic) is current level.
And im currently writing a new story, that I will begin drawing in may.

>> No.18597596

Dont know if it comes under otaku culture or not, I want to make a bullet hell side scrolling game, kinda like cave story but with more bullets and less map. So Cave Story+Touhou with OC.
I dont even have average programming skills yet.

>> No.18597658

>>18594937
Two reasons

People know who i am;they know i browse this site more than likely
I'm in no position to so any of that.
I could churn outs some stuff but by the time I'm finally able to, it'll all be gone in the dust as a mere memory.

As for the second.
Normalfags.

>> No.18597680

>>18597527
having an actual hobby that's creative takes your mind off depression, if you are on meds throw them in the bin and realize that whole ''depression'' is only in your head, if you want it to be.

>> No.18598473

>>18594937
>Why aren't you creating your own doujin works
Because there are no doujin events were I live

>> No.18598501

>>18597592
The old lady in the black dress looks absolutely horrendous. The others are a bit better, but you clearly need to read a book on perspective first. Hampton/Robertson might be a bit too hard for you, but Norling is pretty easy to understand.

>> No.18598548

I lack the motivation to learn an artistic skill which I could use to create doujinshi or doujin music. I also lack the motivation to utilize my underdeveloped programming skills to actually create a game. I lack the confidence to publish my fanfiction ideas. Basically, I'm large-sized garbage.

You know all those cooking-themed SoL episodes featuring a girl in the kitchen who learns that the real key to making delicious food is to think of the person you're making it for? I suspect that in order to create fan work "that person" has to consist of a community you care about. Maybe a truly artistic soul like ZUN or whatever can be motivated to create works only for themselves but I think a lot of other people need that community around them, and for my own part I don't have one of those.

>> No.18598857

>>18598548
Just be a meme master and draw whatever's trending on twitter or pixiv.

>> No.18599320

>>18594937
As some here have mentioned, it's both time-consuming and difficult to see projects through to completion, regardless of how small they seem. I tried making a character fanbook some time last year but ended up trashing it. I've recently taken to redoing it but it's still a ways off from completion; I'm currently only on the second draft of the storyboard.
While I love every moment of working on it, it is a long and difficult process. Perhaps it's perfectionism, or procrastination, or just simple laziness, but I struggle to finish more than a page every week.

But there's no doubt a lot of anons here on /jp/ that have great ambitions for themselves, though. The OC threads are full of them. I think we're all just a bit misguided and, as >>18595053 said, unrealistic with our expectations and end up biting off more than we can chew. Starting off small definitely seems to be the key here.

>> No.18599963

>>18595973
>the mansion is actually decent
anon wtf

>> No.18600245

>>18594937
I made that .gif years ago. I can't believe someone saved it.

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18600562

Not OC but doodled in flockmod.

>> No.18601118

>>18600562
Cute
Hi Dafty

>> No.18601127

Because I'm a depressed piece of shit who can barely get up in the morning

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18601461

I think I'm done now, sorry for spamming the thread

>> No.18601473

westerners shouldn't even attempt to shit up the doujin ecosystem

so everyone in this thread that isn't japanese needs to cease immediately

>> No.18602148

>>18598857
No

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>>18601473
I don't know about any good western doujinshi but there are at least a few decent western music circles

>> No.18603815

>>18603806
Such as?

>> No.18603822

>>18603815
I personally like this one
https://frozenstarfall.bandcamp.com/album/instrumental-collection-vol-1

>> No.18603886

>>18597680
This isn't how depression works(both actual and "household")

>> No.18603900

>>18601473
If I'll make a comic but won't colour it ,will it count as a doujin?

>> No.18603903

>>18603900
not unless you're japanese trained in the art of japanese animation in japan

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>> No.18604182

>>18604094
Freeze-Ex?

>> No.18604223 [DELETED] 

>>18604094
Not him, I just saved it from the a flockmod thread.

>> No.18604225

>>18604182
Not him, I just saved it from the a flockmod thread.

>> No.18606206

>>18601118
Hi Anon!

>> No.18613155

>>18597596
Plenty of game making programs out there so you barely have to do anything yourself.

>> No.18613936

>>18598857
no followers -> no motivation -> no results -> no followers

people with dreams or aspirations can bootstrap this process but not tumbleweeds

>> No.18613998

>>18613936
just get a bunch of /jp/sies to make dummy accounts and follow you so you look like you're popular, like with that blog ring scam a few years back.

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18617289

>>18594937
>Why aren't you creating your own doujin works, /jp/?

Does this count? I gave the kindergartners Japanese-style kindergarten outfits, complete with dumb yellow hat.

>> No.18617294

>>18617289
That hat is the best part.

>> No.18617302

>>18617289
based lolidev, how are you these days?
wish I had the motivation to finish anything.

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18617383

>>18617302

I spent last week continuing to implement saving/loading. It doesn't save/load everything, but the geometry (houses, etc) outside of a few interactable things (computers and such) save/load. NPCs do, but their AI (behavior part, not stored stats) gets reset. I'm sure there's a bunch of tiny things I'm forgetting to save/load though, which will surely surface later in subtle bugs that will be hard to track down...

>> No.18620167

>>18617383
At least they'll probably be funny bugs

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18620224

>>18617302
>>18617383

I should add, that for a more macro-level update I released the 0.3 pre-alpha on Christmas eve, then for about a week after I did some patches (0.3.1, 0.3.2) for bug-fixing and some performance stuff.

Most of the performance stuff was optimizing the collisions and pathfinding. I redid my intrusive multi list implementation (basically an intrusive linked list that can have a node in multiple non-owning lists), which helped some of my collision-detection. I further optimized it by caching all static geometry (stuff that doesn't move once it's created) and just updating local areas in the precomputed walkability grid when adding/removing some geometry.

For some reason people on high-end nvidia cards get lots of lag though, I'm not sure why. Low-end or older nvidia is fine. AMD seems to be fine. Integrated intel is fine. Like 16fps on a 1080 GTX vs 200fps on an old integrated intel card on a laptop (and on that machine, it's the CPU that bottleknecks it, the rendering only takes up like 5% of everything).

I was busy with other stuff in January-February though so I didn't get to work on it much.

And now I'm not really sure what to do. I have this todo list but I really don't feel like working on any of these things...

>>18620167

Nah, it'll most likely be boring stuff like saving/loading makes all computers unusable, or saving/loading makes bladders empty.

>> No.18624989

>>18620224
Just think, if their bladders are empty, they may be thirsty. If they're always thirsty but never save with their thirst quenched, while you save with your supplies drained, they may end up costing you a fortune in juice boxes.

>> No.18625290

>>18620224
>>18617383
>>18617289

Aren't you afraid of feature creep? It seems like you keep adding more and more stuff to the game but the game itself is still very early in development.

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>>18625290

Actually, I've been largely focusing more on the core stuff and not adding lots of features later I think. Feature creep used to be more of an issue, until I did that and actually worked on the core gameplay/sex stuff.

>>18624989

I see what you're getting at, but thirst isn't related to bladder capacity. They're two separate variables, that are only related due to liquid consumption, but not to each other. Liquid consumption decreases thirst and fills the bladder. Time increases thirst, and peeing empties bladder.

>> No.18625949

>>18625480
Sorry for being new but how is this called? How long have you been working on it? Do you have a WIP download link yet? It seems interesting

>> No.18626012
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18626012

>>18625949

It's called Sim Loli. I've been working on it on and off for about 5 years now. There's a pre-alpha on the thread on the /agdg/ board (2^3-ch).

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>>18626012

>> No.18626084

>>18626049
Go away dude.
We don't need you today.
There's activity on the other boards you should be monitoring.

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>> No.18631883

>>18626012
Not even a lolicon but that's really impressive, I'd definitvely play it!

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>>18626012
wut

>> No.18632346

>>18595505
That /jp/ dream...

>> No.18632695

>>18594937
Well, there's two persons that already created their own fictional universes and they're still expanding. You know which persons I'm talking about, right, /jp/?

>> No.18632796

>>18617289
remove the minorities in that game and everything will look nicer

>> No.18637326

>>18625480
Does the game have an end goal or does it just go on forever?

>> No.18637405

>>18617289
I am very happy that this exists.

>> No.18642166

>>18603900
doujinshi can be colored

>> No.18642353
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18642353

Here's my my fate doujin.

>> No.18642435

I have no creativity

>> No.18642471

>>18642353
Should be "Hands" or "a hand that touches"

>> No.18646875

>>18642435
get inspired by others

>> No.18653425

I've been actively writing a novel the past few months, but /jp/ wouldn't read isekaishit

>> No.18658574
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>>18637405

And I'm happy that all the ロリコン on /jp/ exist!

>>18637326

It's a sandbox with no 'win' condition.

>>18632796

Molest the rainbow, /jp/! Try every flavour!

>> No.18662680

>>18658574
Is this game going to end up being like The Sims?

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18666407

>>18662680

Well, you can customize the basement...

>> No.18668498

I realized I hate making things. It takes effort. Even if I finish it, I look at it and think it sucks, it's shit, I hate what I made, and I'm a modern Dr. Frankenstein that brought an abomination into the world.

>> No.18670767

>>18658574
question. how much knowledge of programming do you have to have to create something like this?

>> No.18670949

>>18670767
I'm not him but I remember making fun of him years ago for being a total newbie with the worst everything. Hopefully he's learned a lot in this time.

>> No.18671006

I have this idea for a 4koma centered around Hecatia and Clownpiece, it should be called "Sweet CP and Hella Hec!"

>> No.18671187

>>18670949
I've always wanted to create something like that, but I didn't have the knowledge. Now that I've got some time I'd want to try.

>> No.18671228

>>18671187
You should start with something small that you can finish in a reasonable time. i.e. not years later.

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>>18594937
I tried to make a Joon but gave up. Does that count?

>> No.18672078

>>18671382
Why is this man dressed up as Joon

>> No.18674755

>>18671382
at least you tried to do something

>> No.18675407

>>18670949

When was this? That is, unless you were the non-gamedev guy talking out his ass about a problem domain he knew nothing about.

>>18670767

Depends how you want to create it.

>>18671187

As >>18671228 says, don't try this as your first game. I had made many games before I started this.

>> No.18681792

>>18617289
What is this?

>> No.18689701

>>18681792
see >>18626012

>> No.18692238

I'm much, much better with writing than I am with art, music, or game design. At least I write fanfics.

>> No.18697687

>>18594937
I'm more a writing person. Not drawing.

So I try to write story but it's for my own boring tastes. No on wants to read about touhou stories where TEH FATE OF GENSOYKO IS IN THE BALANCE. Or so I've noticed from tracking trends.

And since I'm not gonna throw in a LOOK HOW AWESOME THIS MALE OC IS! EVERYONE WANTS TO FUCK HIM AND HIS POWER LEVEL IS MAXIMUM! because I'm not a faggot.

>> No.18697694

>>18681792
Pedophile Simulator. The maker is just wanting to get V&

>> No.18697932

>>18697694
>get V&
For making a game? In what shithole do you live?

>> No.18698044

>>18697687
>because I'm not a faggot.
Your story contains no yuri either, right?

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18698190

Gay/jp/boy turns into cute girl creature when entering 2hu-land, thinking that it will be waifu heaven. But then forced to go into hiding after being accused for being a heretic witch by the villagers for showing technology that is beyond their understanding. A basic plot of being chased around by everything and everyone, mental/nervous breakdowns every now and then.

>> No.18700209

>>18594937
I can't do any visual stuff.

I can program just fine but I'm the type of person who can come up with lots of ideas for systems and such but I never really have any ideas for a game.

Music is something I can do though. I've released a bunch of stuff on its own but never an album. I peg it down as me being too lazy to have a coherent theme that runs through an album.

Here's a mediocre PC-98-esque WIP. It's using a YM2151 instead of the YM2608 in the pc-98:
https://instaud.io/1XDn

Sorry for the clipping.

>> No.18700286

I wish I could make music too but making sound in a vst is pretty hard. Been trying for two or so years inconsistently to make a kick/snare and still haven't got it. Probably will have to resort to ripping it from other music for now.
And that's not to mention complete absence of music education of any sort.

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18700322

I do want to make my own doujin works. I am okay at drawing and okay at making music. What I lack is dedication, discipline and true skill to keep me from retrospectively hating most of what I do. However, I will still continue to try, and encourage everyone here to do the same. A lot of us have some sort of passion or another, but are stuck in a toxic mindset. The mindset of viewing ourselves of worthless, inferior to others, making us give up before we even really try. We're keeping ourselves hostage and try to break free by succumbing to some sort of substance abuse or end it all by killing ourselves... when we should make ourselves dependent on the love we claim to have for the things we consume, like Touhou, music and drawing, all those beautiful, inspiring things. Love needs work. And so we have to work on ourselves to make us worthy, so we can finally give back what we have been given, tenfold.
I wish you all good luck. Please do your best, /jp/. I am here for you like you have been here for me for many years.

>> No.18700335

>>18700286
I don't really like VSTs personally, though I mostly make music for old videogame systems/ vintage computers.

You don't really need music education. I did all mine in a Chinese orchestra so any western music theory was basically thrown out the window. You do need to at least subconsciously know the REAL basics like keys, scales, chords, rhythm.

>> No.18705646

I want to draw Yukari!

>> No.18705661

>>18700322
I won't lie, I want people to enjoy something I work on. But man, I hate doing it. The process is so boring, and I have no skills. I've had a story slowly come to life in my mind, but I don't want to write it. Writing stuff is too boring.

>> No.18708180

>>18598548
If you don't pur effort in improving you will never have followers
You shouldn't do it for the followers, but because YOU enjoy doing it
Btw if you git gud at programming finding a job will be a lot easier than musical or atistic skills

>> No.18708453

I haven't drawn in quite a while. The last thing I've drawn that was somewhat decent was a Ume style picture of a facebook friend and that was more than 6 years ago. I'm going to have buy myself a tablet soon and take e-classes on how to properly draw.

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>>18700286
Just do it like this my homebay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDD3P1_mtk

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>>18700286
Just do it like this my homeboy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDD3P1_mtk

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Last time i posted in one of these threads my work was removed by the meido.

>> No.18711002

>>18708621
>Impulse tracker

my nigga

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