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In a all out battle royale (PC-98 included), which touhou would come out victorious?

Danmaku is allowed in the fighting as well

>> No.18631917

So does the battle abide danmaku rules, or is going all out accepted?

>> No.18632024
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>>18631884

>> No.18632054

>>18631917
All out. No bars held against

>> No.18632381

>>18631884
Reimu canonically cannot lose without spellcard rules.

>> No.18632395

Too many variables to say for certain, due to the interplay of special abilities. I suspect that Yorihime probably has the highest odds of victory, though.

>> No.18632469

>>18631884
Hecatia or one of the moonbitches.
There's not really any point of reference for comparing PC-98 characters and newer ones, the setting is still Gensokyo but seems to be for all purposes a separate canon.

>> No.18632488

>>18632395
>>18632469
Id expect this to happen nonetheless, but would anyone even have the capability to upset or overcome them?

>> No.18632553

>>18632488
Depends on what canon you are using.
Combined Canon, PC-98 Canon, or Windows Canon.
I'll leave the argument of which canon is the correct one for elsewhere, but if you are counting both, you end up with a draw.
On any scale with Hecatia on it, the Lunarians don't even rate, so you have to start looking for 'ultimates'.
The reason for this is basically, to keep this short, that Hecatia possesses 'Ultimate Power', but then too does PC-98 Yuuka... and Shinki, for that matter.

In short, OP, your question is impossible to give a correct answer to - especially considering that most of the ones that actually have the raw power to theoretically win would just quit on principle or boredom, and that includes the Lunarians and most of the higher powered Youkai.

>> No.18632610

>>18631884
Probably Eirin. She's got the most flexible powerset of the true immortals. Everybody else just insta-dies to Yuyuko.

>> No.18632656

>>18632610
Yeah, but Yuyuko has to do her thing one by one, giving plenty of time for her to be eliminated by someone (probably her boss Eiki)

>> No.18632677

>>18632610
Yuyuko could go down to the wire, but she could be eliminated if the tree is brought into the fray

>> No.18632684

Rinnosuke and Shingyoku male tie because you can't beat the cock.

>> No.18632725

>>18632684
But could anyone really beat the cock?

>> No.18634020

>>18631884
Oh god another powerlevel thread.
I thought I was done with this trauma.

Ffffuck you OP.
Gpd fucking damn dude. Is peace too much to ask for.

Flan.
She just destroys sit and they vanish.
Poof. Done. Gone. Non existant. Nada.

>> No.18634031

In a deathmatch, the Hourai immortals get a 100% chance at victory regardless of actual battle performance.

>> No.18634047
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Why would you use danmaku when you can just use your abilities. OP confirmed for a baka.

>> No.18634048

>>18634031
Really? Flan just has to keep clasping her hand at them repeatedly until they're fucked up and too tired to fight. Sure, they'll recover, but she can do it again easily, so it's a stalemate.

>> No.18634049

ZUN, easily.

>> No.18634058

hecatia

>> No.18634062

>>18634058
Hecate still get btfo'd by furanda, try again.

>> No.18634066

>>18634047
You're really stupid.

Danmaku hinders them.
Danmaku slows them down, amd lunatic spells cancel completely since they require full attention.

Anon is a dumb dummy dumbhead.

>> No.18634068

>>18634058
Heca loses to flan. Flan cancels "im strongestestestest" shit by exploding their eyes.

Going by ability, Heca's is quite useless, but she can triple team danmaku to fuck up anyone else.

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>>18634066
Slows them from what?
Sakuya? Time stop, dead
Flan? Boom, ende.
Youmu? Yojana ur ass, finite.
Yuyuko? Ups, you're already dead. Too bad.
Etc etc. Powerlevels are bad and you should feel bad. Also hot topic is canonically strongest, end of story.

>> No.18634109

>>18634094
Sakuya's timestop's not gonna do shit if she's surrounded by projectiles, Yorihime already figured this out, anon.
Youmu has to get close, projectiles prevent this. Flan obvious is the big winner.
Yuyuko's ability is uncertain, but if you assumed she can make anyone drop dead instantly from any sight-range she'd be on par with Flandre.

>> No.18634120

>>18634109
But what about those like wriggle? Couldn’t she do some damage anyway with insects, presumably poisonous ones? Even with eirin on the field, this is everyone at once and she might be overwhelmed during the madness

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>>18634109
>Sakuya's timestop's not gonna do shit if she's surrounded by projectiles
>Youmu has to get close, projectiles prevent this
Those were spellcards battles mate. Bullshit is now allowed.

>> No.18634145

Well wouldn't Watatsuki be able to kill absolutely everyone else except the immortals and Reimu by waving a fan around?

>> No.18634191

>>18634094
Dude.
Abilitywise she can only gangrape someone. Nothing more as of now since all we know is that she is the strongest hu to make an appearance to this day.

>> No.18634197

>>18634145
The watashits are just impudent whores.
Stealing people's abilities so you can be worth anything means they're absolutely worthless.

>> No.18634220

Well, if winning the battle means having to kill everyone until you're the only one left...

Hence regardless of battle performance.

>> No.18634223

>>18634220
meant to quote >>18634048

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>>18634191
>Abilitywise she can only gangrape someone
Just like pic related ability is to make pretty flower wagons I presume.

>> No.18634261

>>18634225
I mean that's Yuuka. She can do whatever she wishes.

>> No.18634450

Cirno would win. She can't be killed and she can just freeze the other fairies and immortals once all the more powerful people are done killing each other.

>> No.18634489

>>18634450
Ain't no fairies gonna be around if Watatsuki or any other mass-destruction 'hu just destroys the environment.

>> No.18634506

>>18634062
>>18634068
flan got BTFO by the protagonists and isnt invincible

"she can destroy a meteor"
and heca can throw moons around

>> No.18634523

>>18634506
Flan got BTFO'd in spellcard duels. And could destroy moons with ease.
Why not bring up her actual weaknesses since she's got a tonne?

>> No.18634524

>>18634523
how about you crawl back to /reddit/ powerlevelfaggot

>> No.18634534

>>18634524
Make me. Do you have the powerlevel to do so, faggot-kun?

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>>18631884
Doremy fucks off into the dream world and waits for everyone else to kill themselves. She can handle anyone that gets to her as long as she doesn't leave the dream world, and she can send dreamself assassins into the real world to mop up any resistance, up to and including dreamselves of Reimu.

>> No.18634589

kisume

>> No.18634596

>>18634582
Yukari manipulates border of dreams and reality, something something, kill Doremy.

>> No.18634659

>>18634489
Cirno is an ice fairy. All she needs is the concept of coldness to exist.

>> No.18634663

>>18634506
>isnt invincible
Pretty close though. I mean Okuu could probably one hit her with a sun, but other than that, she can be blown into mist and be fine.

>> No.18634780

>>18634659
Concept of coldness would be a youkai thing, Fairies are nature spirits, Cirno needs cold places to exist, if that chilly lake and other cold places were nuked Cirno would vanish.

>> No.18635246
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>>18631884
Yukari-sama, because she is omnipotent.

>> No.18635312

High in the sky is cold. Winter is cold. A breeze can be of cold air.

>> No.18635315

>>18635312
to >>18634780

>> No.18636867

>>18635246
Stop being retarded anon

>> No.18636884

>>18635246
Not omni-potent. Just omni-present. She's looking right over your shoulder.

>> No.18636959

>>18634596
Turning the barrier between dreams and reality to nothing will only extend Doremy's personal domain to everything, giving her complete control over all.

Thanks Yukari! You fucked up!

>> No.18637131

Are the moonbitches really THAT strong? I feel like Flandre, Sakuya, Yuyuko and Yukari could shit on them without spellcard rules, to name a few. Also Reimu wins no matter what since her ability to float above reality takes priority over everything.

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>>18631884
Raymoo because protag, then either of the three groups.

Kaguya/Mokou/(Eirin?) because hourai and they are the only hard counter to Yuyuko's just-point-and-kill-you.

Yuyuko can literally kill everyone except above two immediately and from range, presumably including Yukari.

Yukari can literally walk away from everything, and she seems like the only one to deal with Kaguya and Mokou by just making them go Kars or sending them somewhere far enough underground they'd die from suffocation repeatedly etcaetera. Even then, if that shackles from moonmanga is to be believed, she has problems dealing with infinities, so that's something to take note of.

(Out of those three Yukari is the most prone to being sly, so wisely, should be eliminated upfront.)

Okina and Eiki are somewhere up there, but we don't have much yet on Okina and Eiki has her underworld judge role which would -probably- get suspended in settings where she's a participant.

Scraping the barrel, one of the Youmu's swords can kill people on conceptual level even if the wielder's a dork.

Read a doujin about something like that where Eiki won earlier repetition, and the next one starts with Reimu eliminating Marisa.

>> No.18639608

>>18637131
If they’re that strong, then there’s reasoning why they’re up there

>> No.18639609

>>18636867
Just because something is beyond your understanding doesn't mean it's retarded. You haven't seen what I've seen, but perhaps your eyes will open to the truth one day.
>>18636884
She's both.

>> No.18642974

Yukari can't manipulate all of the borders however she wants. This is heavily implied all throughout the series. Yukari is not an omnipotent god through border magic.

>> No.18643152

>>18639609
Yukari isn't omnipotent. She can't pop off to the moon any time she wants. She had to figure out a loophole just to beat Yorigamis. She has to seclude her kind within the barrier due to humankind's lack of fear.

>> No.18643474

>>18643152
That's how it may seem, because what kind of story would it be if everything was solved in an instant? Naturally, it should be interesting to the audience. Even ZUN said that Yukari doesn't bother to actually use her powers for the purposes of the narrative.

>> No.18644662

>>18643474
Dude. You're really retared. Like really retarded.

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