General Nutaku and DMM thread 228

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Last thread: >>18709971

Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>English DMM Wiki
http://aigis.wikia.com/wiki/Aigis_Wiki
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Osawari chat
https://discord.gg/n6uRd3n
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Kanpani-Girls
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

X-Overd:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?

Kamihime
>Jp Wiki
http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/
>Eng wiki
http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Kamihime_Project_Wikia

ShiroPro:
>Jp Wiki
http://scre.swiki.jp/
>Eng DMM Wiki
http://shiroprore.wikia.com

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>18732100
I will show you the dance of my people

[Anonymous No.]

I activated the apparatus and now I can't turn it off.
What have I done?!

[Anonymous No.]

Guy who started goddess kiss yesterday here. Not that I intended to actually play this seriously, but is it even enjoyable to play as a f2p? The free rewards ratio seems to be one of the worst I've ever seen (I've played so far kamihime, aigis, senpro, shiropro, otogi, and taimanin). Stuff like 10 diamonds (1/40th of a roll) for achieving some result seems more like a joke. Leveling itself has become gruesome (more than 50 story battles per level) after not even one full day of playing, and I can barely handle the easiest of the 10 bazillions event difficulties there are. This wouldn't be surprising considering it's the first day, but coupled with how hard it is to level already and the fact that your girls level are tied to your level, it seems a fairly daunting enterprise.
That said, I like the art and the gameplay so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18732268
Watching mechs explode never gets old but I can't say as much for the erst of the game.

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>>18732268
It's really not so bad. Put a little time in and you'll be able to clear all but the very hardest event stuff with no problem. And they're actually pretty generous with Diamond drops. I got to ACE Rank 5 every month the game was active just off of gibs until March.

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>>18732147
You have done very well, name~

Thanks to you, all of Spring Garden will be covered with impossibly strong pests, name~. I can't imagine the surprise on the faces of these evil flower knights when they find out that every event requires 700k power at the lowest difficulty now, name~

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>>18732268
The daily missions are actually a bit more generous compared to others.

You get 120 diamonds for completing them, which is 1/4 of a single roll.
Other games like Senpro, X-overd, etc only gives you 1 stone for completing the dailys and since 1 roll costs 5 stones you only get 1/5 of a single roll from the dailies.

Not to mention the dailies are not the only source of renewable diamonds in Goddess Kiss. You also get diamonds from doing the daily boss raids and the 3v3 PvP. Then you also have the daily login achievements from the Fes missions which gives you free diamonds just from logging in.

Then combine that with the event rewards and the weekly PvP rewards. If you're well established, you can easily get 25,000 diamonds in a month which is enough for around 70 rolls. I'm pretty sure there's no other games on DMM (besides Otogi, that game is just crazy at throwing you free shit) that gives you that much in free rolls in a month.

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>Log into KamiPro
>New union event, fight against the demon gluttony
>Check her out
>She's not a huge, plump, phat ass&tits breeding machine
>And even if, apparently she can't even join your party
>Instead we just get a pallet swapped, boring Lilim
Why bother desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>18732726
All 7 deadly sins demons look the same and their Lilims too.

[Anonymous No.]

Only Aqua Shadow super-EX left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18732793
>All 7 deadly sins demons look the same and their Lilims too.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the objectively worst shrine blacks in Aigis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18733617
Koharu, Elmira, Wurm, Anri

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>>18733617
>>18733660
Add Ibuki to the list

[Anonymous No.]

What is with the Anna idol stage? It says no drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18733617
Deine and Dina
Amanda too but she gets a pass for her passive

[Anonymous No.]

>>18734323
Dina is great because of her AoE spam and 4 block. I've been able to use her as an effective replacement for Fuuko on just about any map. Which means I can also still use Fuuko.

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>>18733617
Eldora is poopoo.

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>>18734465
>Dina is an effective replacement for Fuuko
Ramii should've been the free unit.

[Anonymous No.]

>I apparently sold all my Lacia bonboris in the past year
Heck

[Anonymous No.]

Any guesses on when Karma's revival is? I kinda want to get Reisha.

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>>18733660
Wurm is actually alright

10 seconds of lolnope immortal team is amazing at times

[Anonymous No.]

>>18733717
Tell us why

Buffed up with a dancer she's absolutely amazing, even without her sea creature bonus.

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>>18734714
Probably not for another 6 months.
Hibari should be soon though

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>Fiore's stealth doesn't actually interact with Ranged units that have taunt
Fug I'm sad now. I guess it was too good/broken to work after all.

On a different note, after many months of deliberation having passed since we were given the 2nd Black Ticket, I've finally managed to narrow it down to two final candidates:
Ingrid or Rion?

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>>18735176
Thanks, anon. I think I'll wait for Hibari.

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>>18735270
Ingrid. She has those hips and isn't shadowed by a gold unit.

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>>18733617
Farne because she's ugly.
Phantasm Summoner AW2 is ok though.

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>>18735270
Do you even need to ask?

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>>18735379
you have no taste

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gold dailies really need to be retooled
when most units need like 500k gold or worse 900k worth of an investment to really shine and take over a spot in the main team, 25k per clear with a chance at 30k more (which will never happen outside 1.5x drops) every 6 hours is pain

[Anonymous No.]

>Finally bought the second barracks
>All this extra space now
This trash compactor and fairy stable are the best. I don't even know what to use all of the extra storage space for now.

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>>18735270
Thirding Ingrid. Rion is super cute, to be sure, but Ingrid is a goddess. I kind of regret using one of my tickets on Elyse rather than her, especially since I also have Sylseth and Shiena for extra magical oomph.

The second was non-negotiable and went to Farne. >>18735425 is talking sense here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18735270
My first ticket went to Ingrid immediately. Never regretted it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18735405
>>18735483
>>18735519
My brothers of impeccable taste.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is this rerun black event valkyrie, is she worth farming?

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>>18735302
>>18735405
>>18735483
>>18735519
Alright, thanks fellas.
It probably wouldn't have been as hard of a choice for me if Ingrid's hair was some shade of purple instead of red, but everything else about her is indeed wonderful.

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>>18736479
She's fat though

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>>18736180
She tokenizes valks (and pegasus/dragon riders on AW) so if you want that, get her.

Personally, I don't like her. Her attack is too low for a duelist, and her cost is too high to use as an early ramp. Then again, I don't have her min cost and that last time I used her was pre-AW2.

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Finally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18736180
She's good for the cavalry limited Labyrinth maps. That's about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18736752
Who's that qtp2t and what does she do.

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>>18736764
Not him, but she has SSR-tier art. I would get her too if I didn't have her already.

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>>18736180
I'm getting her for for looks but she doesn't seem useful unless you min-cost and SAW her. I don't know how either 2AW is supposed to be useful when both paths require that you deploy her first to keep her cost low, which isn't even very low to begin with.

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finally. Barely managed to scrape up enough flower gems for this last try

>>18736752
congrats. Team Mini's on a roll

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>>18736764
Proserpina.
She has decent skill set for a SR, but like that anon said, I got her mainly because of her art.
>>18736795
Gratz, another Mini anon.

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>>18736848
Thanks.

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Picked up the 4th anni black ticket pack, going to do a pity and hope for the cute black Jiangshi, wish me luck.

Also, Lapis is the default ticket usage if I don't have her, right?

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>>18736752
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

[Anonymous No.]

free rolls are okay I suppose

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737103
I personally went for Silvia over Lapis, on the grounds that Silvia is cute AND strong as opposed to just being strong.

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>>18737275
>as opposed to just being strong.
Lapis is very cute too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737313
The plat demon summoner is cuter

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>>18737275
Lapis is a top cutie, I just want to grab her horns.

[Anonymous No.]

Done rolling, >>18737103 reporting in.
Blacks: Alice, Kayou (dupe), and I managed to get Shu on one of my last rolls.
Plats: Ameri, Rischelte, Lei-Mei, Mia, Blanche

I think I did pretty well. Should I feed the dupe Kayou to the one I already have, or just take the 400 RC? She's SAW and -1 CR atm.

>>18737275
I actually have Silvia already, or she'd be my pick!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18734323
>Dina
Dem. Just got Deine from ticket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737342
>3 (three) blacks in 150 rolls

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737364
If it makes you feel any better, I was just about to hit my 4th pity without rolling any outside of them.
I was bound to get some luck eventually.

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>>18737342
Selling is the best option, as CR fairies are very common nowadays and 400 RC is very considerable.

Also, are you that anon who started relatively recently? Because I'm very jealous if you are, you're getting an amazing number of blacks while I've just gotten my 14th over two years. Congratulations, in any case.

>>18737275
I'll grant you that Sylvia is very cute, but Lapis looks really soft for a demon and even has yuri potential with Lucia.

There's no shame in picking either with your ticket.

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maid fairy does what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737376
>14th over two years

Not him but I'm at 12 as a F2P that started like 7 months ago so I guess I'm doing pretty well too.

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>>18737376
Aye, I am. I'm the anon that rerolled for Silvia and ticketed Ingrid and Rinne. I'm up to Silvia, Rinne, Ingrid, Towa, Shu, Alice, Kayou, Mireille, Socie, Nataku, Amanda, and Lapis if I get her from ticket. Things are looking really great for me after a rough start with no ranged characters.
Still lacking in ranged a bit, but it's definitely a lot better now. Can't seem to hit any of the really high value plats, though. Thanks anon, I hope luck finds you soon too.

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>>18737387
XP, but would you really want to use her? Look at that cute smile.

[Anonymous No.]

1* clear but
it finally happened
yattazo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737420
>use her

[Anonymous No.]

Here's to hoping that tomorrow's maintenance will grant us new bunny girls as cute as Easter Helenium (which is hard to achieve, but doable). That, or bloom art for her.

[Anonymous No.]

Just tried her out, but I'm terrible at first impressions - is Shu (the black Jiangshi) actually really fucking good or am I just retarded?

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>>18737710
I'm hedging my bets on another rainbow with the revival ability, since it's Easter and all. You're right in Helenium being great, though, and I hope the second week will have bloom art for her as well.

>>18737738
It's still a bit early for a full assessment, but I think the early verdict is that she's broken as they come. 36 seconds of timestop is unbelievable in a game where Melvina's 13 seconds was considered to be black-tier, her class offers reliable damage output in nearly all situations (to the extent that even the heavily nerfed event unit sees extensive use in budget clears), and her twin ramping skills means that she becomes a Leimei (who is already on the upper rungs of plat tier lists) that trades some range for higher attack and multi-targeting.

Where Sylvia is the definitive duelist, she may just be the definitive sustained DPS unit, especially against heavily armored/magic-resistant targets that show up with increasing frequency in majin maps. You're very lucky to have her.

[Anonymous No.]

For the miracle ticket, I'm assuming Set would be the best pick if I have SSR Cybele, Gaia, and Hastur?

I'm also curious what soul I should be using for general purpose since I'm kind of tight on points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18737710
I hope its some pink haired cuties

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have DMM Kamihime tier list?

[Anonymous No.]

What's good fire SR for my fire team?

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>>18738006
What do you habe and what do you think you lack?

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>>18738048
No SSR

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>>18738172
It actually doesn't seem like you lack anything vital other than starting to level Hephaestus,
I don't believe any SR can be anything other than a sidegrade since with that SR lineup there's nowhere to go but up with SSRs.

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Welp, since I now have to change up my ordering on my next group of AWs and SAWs, who should take priority for what out of Silvia, Lapis, Alice, Mireille, and Shu?

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wow

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>>18738204
AW you gold because you're gonna go fucking poor motherfucker

>>18738211
whoa

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>>18738214
No problems on that front, I stockpiled around 4mil for when I did my next big drawing session.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18738194
I think I still lack of heal, Brynhildr isn't enough, and repalce Fortuna for someone else

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>>18738204
Frankly, you're at liberty to proceed as you like. I'd say Sylvia and Lapis, though, since the former gains a very useful token from her AW and the latter will solve your ranged damage problems for good.

Shu-Xian is also a very good choice, as while her tokens aren't necessary for regular content, her skill + SAW combination makes her a premier ranged threat.

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>>18738286
Appreciated, anon, always thankful for the advice. Those seem like my big 3 power blacks as things stand, since Rinne is AW2 and SAW already, as is Ingrid, so I suppose it does make sense to make sure they're kitted out next.

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http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ220928

These are some pretty awful waifu choices.

Not nearly as awful as my black pulls though.

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>>18739071
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2462749

>Listed as anime
Huh, I thought it was some bad dlsite game or a set of CGs.

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>Fleurety's design comes from the cancelled version of kamihime from 2015
Huh, that's nice

[Anonymous No.]

So is it known what Idol anna does?

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>>18730964
Apparently we got a garden object.

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>>18739721
Any clue when the current gachas/events are changing?

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>>18739728
in about 1 hour

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>>18739721
We as in everyone or we as in the people who finished it? Because I logged in last night and it wouldn't let me do anything else. Then I logged in later and it still wouldn't but the totals on the main menu had gone up anyway.

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>>18739764
... give or take an hour.

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So Adenium wasn't a brown girl, or a glasses girl (surprising no one, but one can dream), but she's very welcome nonetheless. Let's hope that she'll get plenty of yuri art in the future.

Not much of a clue whom the others are. Birdsfoot Trefoil (the genus Lotus, incidentally), some kind of campion and Pear, maybe?

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>>18739895
>off with their heads
Why would she get yuri though?
Last one definitely looks pearish.

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>>18739926
>Why would she get yuri though?
She's the hero of Lotus Lake and seems to be loved as much as Ume and Sakura are admired by the Blossom Hill cast.

Flowering Rush in particular is completely smitten with her, it'll be good to see the two of them meet on-screen.

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>>18739941
Oh the superfluffy one? That's pretty cute.

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>>18736848
Does every girl from KamiPro come from the same artist?

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>>18738269
You could just do it like me and let the soul be the healer.

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>>18739895
Pear girl is actually quince.

[Anonymous No.]

How does this voting event work in kamipro?

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>>18740335
Same as last year.
10 AP spent in quests equals 1 voting ticket of each rarity, 2500 AP total needed for all rewards.
Most popular kamihime end up in a rateup gacha and have a pretty high chance of getting a new version in the future,

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>>18740354
I see thanks. Is there any reason why you need to click the button to change the points into tickets?

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>>18737830
You can always go the berserk route with Morgan (and her soul weapon) + Cybele/Hastur/Titania/Cu Chu

[Anonymous No.]

ah? Nutaku Kamihime Gem Gacha now drops Idea Cores

[Anonymous No.]

Oh no

[Anonymous No.]

>>18740466
What's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18740486
It's Stamina

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>>18737830
>I'm assuming Set would be the best pick if I have SSR Cybele, Gaia, and Hastur?
Unless you want to go for the highly memetic route suggested by the other anon, yes. You'd have completed the dreamteam.
>for general purpose
You mean with your wind team? Since you have everything covered (assuming ex skill propaganda for solo) anything that doesn't focus on healing or defense would do: Arthur, Mordred, Herakles or Morgan. Personally I'd either go with Arthur+Shingen skill or Herakles for raids. If by tight on points you mean for MP I'd probably avoid Morgan since she is the most niche of them all.

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>>18740226
I see, thought it was pear because of wine but turns out that quince wine is a thing too. Other girls are Agrostemma and Adzuki too, so at least everything was right to family level this time, though my guesses continue to be abysmal.

Still, birdsfoot trefoil would probably make for an interesting knight, since it's even the birth flower of the same day as lotus (July 8). That they would look similar is a given, but would there be a Prince and Pauper plot? Or something like Kagemusha, where she protects the queen from assassinations by acting as her double in dangerous times?

Most likely option, though, is that Rabbitear Iris keeps her in a dungeon somewhere and uses her as an outlet for her forbidden love towards her queen. Between Lotus/Rabbitear Iris, Flowering Rush/Adenium and Baikamo/Skullcap, LL is quickly establishing itself as the /ll/ nation.

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>>18740454
Damn, they really upgraded the shitty gem gacha.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me or does the Nutaki KamiPro event run horrible? I got a good 3-5 second delay after every skill I use in the raid battle.

[Anonymous No.]

I went to look for last year's winners of the popularity contest to see who got a new version or AW and the only ones that came out losing (getting nothing at all) were:

Shamas, Gaia and Svarog for the SSRs
Ramiel, Cybele and Tsukuyomi for the SRs
And just Perun for the Rs.

Maybe one of these days.

[Anonymous No.]

Biggest bait and switch since Fullmoon Maple.

This is some next level bullying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18739895
Nice. The event girl is the best designed one for a change. And the others are all pretty meh. Seems like I'll be able to save some flower gems the coming 2 weeks.

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>>18740633
It does every event in the first couple hours.

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>>18740747
Ah, alright. They just recently got done with a big update and server issues as well, so it's understandable.

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>>18740700
>And the others are all pretty meh
>Adzuki
I would hate to see the world through your eyes anon.

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>>18732434
>>18732500
I guess you guys are right, apparently they also give rewards outside the regular rewards sections and I got showered in diamonds after reaching some level 20. It was also much easier once I got into a 無言OK union and abused mercenaries. According to the jp wiki they used to give 20 rolls instead of 10 right after you started playing, pity I've missed that.
Also what's up with the en wiki, some characters have Korean names and made up Korean backstories? That's outright weird.

[Anonymous No.]

Jewels prereg is giving +10 rolls after not posting to twitter now.

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>>18740797
I already rolled an hour ago and don't get the 5 extra rolls

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>>18740840
whoops, meant for >>18740827

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>>18740840
Well theoretically it reset half an hour ago so try reloading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18740853
I did. Whatever, it's only five rolls anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18740454
Oh snap
Is it still 100 draws per day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18740454
They also drop those fangs, which makes limit breaking so much easier. Also, check out the Material Shop, they updated those as well.

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>>18740808
>According to the jp wiki they used to give 20 rolls instead of 10 right after you started playing, pity I've missed that.
I don't really recall that. They might have meant the pre-release bonuses you could get that they ran before the game started and were given out early on. I don't ever recall a period where we were just thrown 20-rolls. But I'm a forgetful bastard, too. Regardless, you didn't miss much.

>Also what's up with the en wiki, some characters have Korean names and made up Korean backstories? That's outright weird.
Dude, I didn't even know there was an English wiki. If it's infested with panheads, I'm not likely to take a look, either.

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>>18740967
What you don't want to know about Jung E-young (Tina for non-gooks like us) and how she "grew up in the Catholic orphanage, located on the outskirts of Pusan, South Korea."?

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>>18741003

[Anonymous No.]

http://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/detail/dmmgames_0056/

Lol. They started selling Red Corruption's CG set on DMM.

[Anonymous No.]

Free 2015 FKG gold, who did you pick?

Pic related, I missed my Santa loli.

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>>18739895
I'm kinda sad they skipped Easter and went straight for hanami. There goes any hope for new bunnies for this year, or for Easter Helenium bloom next week.

On the upside, they handed out an exchange ticket for any gold flower that was introduced in 2015, so I guess it's finally time for me to get Ivy.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like Iris Mysteria is switching to an X-overd style gameplay. Not bad, X-Overd's gameplay is pretty decent. Too bad its pay2win.

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>>18741135
I have good news then, since looks like there is indeed an Easter event in the works, though it'll be slightly late. We'll have flower viewing for these two weeks, and Easter after it.

Ivy is a respectable choice, but I'll probably be going for Nandina (if she's available, as she came right at the tail end of 2015). I used my previous ticket on Red Tulip, and it just wouldn't do to keep these two very close friends apart.

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>>18741123
I didn't wake up this morning thinking I'd be granted an opportunity to get her, but she's a unit I've wanted since I began playing about five months ago and was on the top of my 5* wishlist so of course I had to go with Wood Sorrel.

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>>18741369
Solid choice. Lady Sorrel approves.

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus Christ, having to wait 5 seconds for a skill to perform is so infuriating. All the while my Union members just autoattack with 3000 damage and let Gluttony heal up for 60,000. The event has just started today and I already feel like completely ignoring it.

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>>18731927
thank you for using my pic on top of this thread :)
i forgot to signet my pic so if you interest in my pic, plz visit my pixiv also, thx!

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=68010904

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>>18741601
Gluttony was basically devised to fuck with auto attack leeches.

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>>18741686
I just wish you could solo her, like regular raid battles. But she's open for everyone at the union and it's just a matter of time before some level 20-30 dude walks in and uses autoattacks, which makes the fight like 2x-3x longer than it should be.

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>>18741669
Good porn but needs more yuri.

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>>18741669
>Kanon, Rino, Kokoro, Sharqi
This is a good Pixiv and you should be proud of it.

Looking forward to Kanon's 2AW. She still has the cutest tummy in Aigis, but barely, because Shiena now offers some serious competition in the navel department.

>>18741707
>needs more yuri
You can say that about everything, though. Is there anything that isn't improved by yuri?

[Anonymous No.]

So that's what the maintenance was for. They simply forgot to reset the subjugation count.

I thought it's a little weird that we can continue were we left off last time and get all the rewards without doing anything.
Glad I already received them before the support noticed.

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>>18741702
Why don't you join a union with higher levels then? Much better for your sanity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18741884
I was just lucky enough to finally have one. Applied to several unions, but none other than the one I'm in took me.

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>>18741900
I'm sure i saw Embryon recruiting people on one of the last previous threads. You could try your luck there. Too late for this one tho.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, I got that cutie that was just added to the gem gacha. In my opinion, she is the best looking R Kamihime, on par with Zeruel. But I won't actively use her, she's an R after all and it shows.

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>>18741991
Just so you know both her and Zeruel get limiteds later this year

[Anonymous No.]

>>18742012
Oof, fuck me... Gonna need to save my jewels then!

[Anonymous No.]

>>18740847
...and again with three 6* girls. But this time I'll keep them

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>>18741741
thank you! im also looking forward Kanon's 2AW in this month. I hope she has still cute tummy :)

>>18741707
I also want to see yuri of Ramii and Fuuko

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>>18741991
She looks like a slut. Is she a cuckhime?

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>>18742210
No.
Kamihime's past that.
Now all you get besides vanilla is some occasional yuri.

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[Anonymous No.]

>Proserpina might actually rank high in the voting
I had no idea she was that popular.
It's understandable, though, she is the cutest there is after all

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>>18742224
I actually liked the variety in fetishes we had

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>>18742256

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>>18742404
I would proofread for those niggas for free

[Anonymous No.]

So, apparently, there were difficulties connecting to FKG on DMM? As an apology, they are giving out 30 Gems as well as a boatload of stuff as compensation. I didn't know it was that serious.

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>>18742460
This feels like a bimonthly dose now.

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>>18742460
Yeah, I couldn't connect for about 8 hours after maint.

[Anonymous No.]

>So, apparently, there were difficulties connecting to FKG on DMM?

Yes, I got error messages and had to reload a few times earlier today. Thought it's just a normal busy server thing, because of the new event

[Anonymous No.]

> go to work when maint started
> come back home greeted by boatload of gems
Best devs.

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>>18742460
>>18742499
Yeah, there were serious log-in problems until a short while ago. This is relatively common though, nowadays it's mostly seen as an extra source of flower stones.

They once went down for three days and gave out 130 stones plus a mountain of other items, which resulted in "nice, here comes compensation" and "we should DDoS their servers so that they hand out more" kind of comments every time we got a maintenance extension afterwards.

>>18742519
Best devs indeed. I sometimes worry whether I've been obnoxious in praising FKG non-stop, but then I remember times like these.

I even got a yukata Viola from the compensation of that day.

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>>18742597
My only complaint of this game so far is that i'm burning with the desire to roll and none of these gachas interest me. Wonder how many gems I can stock up until the next one I like.

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>>18741165
Thanks for the heads up, guess I'll only try one 11 roll for Azuki then and save the rest for Easter.

>>18741141
They also mentioned that the two princesses from the story will be added as members of your team, so I'm really looking forward to the revival.

[Anonymous No.]

Apple got a new contender it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18742855
What are the odds that pear and nashifruit will also have a fine appreciation for waifus?

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>>18742855
>these madmen actually bred Apple with Hop
They will multiply out of control and the entire human race will be replaced by yuri fruit knights in six months' time, but it will be an end fit for a king.

That explains the bottles too, they're karinshu. A genius design as expected.

>>18742895
Almost certain, the entire apple subfamily seems to have flawless tastes in general. We have seven girls from that group (Apple, Firethorn, Flowering Quince, Chinese Quince, Quince, Loquat and Japanese Rowan) and five of these are down the path of lilies (in addition to the obvious three, Japanese Rowan admires Peach and Loquat is part of Mikan's childhood friends group). Apple's yuri power is so high that she's corrupting everyone related to her, it's only a matter of time before the rest of Spring Garden follows suit.

Speaking of prospective yuri couples, it could be nice to have a Safflower who works for Saffron's fashion company (since its flower meaning is "dress, cosmetics"), vehemently ships Echinacea and Saffron together (since she's distantly related to the former as a daisy, and Echinacea herself has a ton of quotes that show she cares for Saffron more than herself), and wants to get them together by eliminating the knightmaster from the equation.

Making up backstories about knights who aren't even hinted to exist is kind of silly, but it can't be helped now. Muhaaaa~

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>>18743020
>They will multiply out of control and the entire human race will be replaced by yuri fruit knights in six months' time

Its up to danchou to give them all the dick and bring them back from their Yuri delusions. I'll take on that challenge.

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>>18743030
Carefull what you wish for. He's canonically monogamous.

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>>18743035
Its for the sake of the world so it cant be helped. I'm sure my wife wouldnt be mad if I have to save the human race from extinction by dicking lesbian knights and bring them back from their fruity delusion.

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>>18741123
I opted for Dragon Fruit/Sankakusaboten.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone getting error 400s on Aigis? I checked both Kamihime and Shiropro and I can play them fine, it's only Aigis.

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>>18741123
Stuck between Lantana and Oncidium, i'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking hell, I keep getting thunders even though it's the only element I haven't touched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18741123
Gonna toss everything at Nightshade and Streptocarpus' Gacha when it returns, so it depends on what I get there. Leaning towards Oncidium right now though.

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>>18743035
Wut

[Anonymous No.]

Day 1 update of the popularity contest

Top 10 SSRs
Satan
Sol
Frey
Shamas
Uriel
Samael
Gaia
Ryuoh
Osiris
Mammon
Runner ups: Amaterasu, Nepthys

Top 10 SRs
Hypnos
Artemis
Diana
Amon
Kingu
Nike
Andhaka
Manes
Jehuty
Beelzebub
Runner ups: Ramiel, Nyarlhatothep

Top 10 Rs
Boreas
Ratri
Charis
Konohana Sakuya
Nergal
Yagamihime
Kama
Aten
Perun
Zeruel
Runner ups: Chaos, Neith

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>>18741135
>Ivy
>>18743578
>Nightshade
You anons are alright.

[Anonymous No.]

Heard before that Lapis makes the fairy dailies a joke, anyone mind explaining to me?

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>>18744017
just plant her at good spot with some healer and blockers and magic damage units ect.

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>>18744017
Lapis makes most maps a joke

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>>18743785
How much did they change in the end last time? Is day 1 reliable?

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>>18744017
Not sure, the dailies are a joke to begin with.

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>>18740406
>>18740504
Awesome, thanks for the advice anons, I'll probably just take the safe route and pick up Set since I have neither Titania/Cu.

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>>18741123
It's a hard decision.

[Anonymous No.]

Rune Delver or Rune Slayer for Ingrid AW2?
Rune Slayer's art is amazing, but I can always build the second copy for that if Delver is the way to go - the extra range seems really nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18744384
Yep. The extra range is where it's at.

You will of course raise your 2nd copy for the other's art, anon.

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>>18744384
I liked how some anon put it the other day when people were talking about the new AW2:

>Rune Delver is the dork class that gets into heated arguments over whether this rune is supposed to have this meaning or that, while Rune Slayers make a lot of grammar errors with their runes but they can kill things by writing "ur ded lol" in the air.
>Rune Slayers were called so because their spelling was that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

I made a thing on the wiki to help people choose who to pick with their ticket.

This temporary page should show every gacha gold released before 2016.
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/User:Yil/Sandbox2

[Anonymous No.]

>>18744017
Lapis can clear all god-tier dailies.
Fairy: fen-shui at right of road edge, lapis on the left, aw prince between them. Whatever you want support around them.

Affection: Lapis on middle isle, war priest below her, fenshui behind Lapis, prince nearby. Then some support if you want.

Crystal: Lapis top-right of road, archer next to her, fenshui below them, prince between them all, archer to the left of fenshui. Token-spam or support to tank enemy damage, activate Lapis skill on final wave.

Armors: Soldier near bottom-left point, Fenshui and Lapis behind soldier. Runesword guards top-right entrance, Emperor bottom-right, some healer for them two. (I just place 2 self-regen doggos at top right and bottom right each and they handle right side entirely themselves)

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>>18744437
Ingrid makes my dick happier than any other character, the 2nd copy is destined to be raised.
Thanks for the confirmation on Delver.

>>18744447
Welp, that got a laugh out of me..

[Anonymous No.]

>>18744479
サンキューな

[Anonymous No.]

This is pretty amazing for just 250 stones, despite the lack of rainbows.

More importantly, I almost have enough muhuu~ for an optimal rarity promotion. Not sure whether I want to go ahead with it, though, since I have 6 ampule-maxed golds (Sankakusaboten, Catchfly, Lily, Mountain Lily, Maiden-Lily and Toadlily) waiting for the process.

Also surprising is that she has five different garden animations. Dangerously cute.

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>>18744608
>Have 200 crystals saved up and think its a nice amount
>Its not enough for a rainbow

Just how bad are the rates in this game

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>>18744384
I went for 2 Ingrids and deploy both regularly. The range is much more noticeable, but having an indecently bulky Ingrid is also nice.

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>>18744623
0.5% for rainbow.

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>>18744623
Saving up these crystals took like 3 weeks here, so it's easy come, easy go. Rainbows are still really rare though: as a free player I only have 14 after 38 months of play, and that's still incredibly lucky.

That's why the guaranteed ways to get free rainbows are so important. I'm impatient enough that I can't save for more than a few weeks without going on a rolling spree (the waits for Mimosa and Cacao notwithstanding), but even I am keeping my hard-earned rainbow medals for a girl that truly captures my heart.

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>>18743406
Well, the decision is easier now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18744678
>That's why the guaranteed ways to get free rainbows are so important.
What are those?

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>>18744678
>250 stones.
>took 3 weeks.
Nope, not really.

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>>18744490
Great, thanks anon. The fairy daily was the only one I couldn't clear the last difficulty of because I'm an idiot.

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>>18744685
Rainbow medals and rarity promotion. Both are extremely long-term projects, but they're also the only luck-independent ways to get specific rainbows for a free player.

You get bond crystals whenever you fuse or sell a girl (you get the same amount either way, so fuse your golds if you can help it). You can exchange these for D-medals, and exchange D-medals for D-tickets, which have 92.5% gold/7.5% rainbow rates. Every time you fail to get a rainbow from a D-ticket, you get 30 rainbow medals. Every time you roll a gold/rainbow dupe from the gacha, you also get 2/50 rainbow medals. Once you reach 300 rainbow medals, you can trade these for any gacha rainbow, and this list is kept up to date with each event, so you can sit on your medals to instantly snag any new girl that captures your fancy. It takes about a year to get a rainbow through this method.

Whenever you roll the gacha, you also get rarity promotion crystals (2 per 5-roll, 22 per 11-roll). These are used to turn 5* and lower knights into 6* versions with stats, skills and abilities on par with gacha rainbows. The price depends on the rarity and skill/slot status of the girl, with SL5/4-slot gacha golds taking 500. Golds that receive rarity promotions get a discount gacha (30 flower stones, 12% gold chance but no rainbows) to help you get some extra dupes/rarity crystals. If you take care to only promote maxed out girls, and are willing to use the no-rainbow banners for some extra crystals, you will get enough flower stones to fuel two promotions per year.

>>18744692
I'm fairly sure it was three weeks, since I started storing up once the discount gacha for Waterlily/Anemone popped up, and that was on March 12.

This month was an outlier since we just got 80 extra stones thanks to the gratitude campaign and today's server troubles, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Do they ever do buffed gachas in FKG? Or is it just rarity promotion?

I want to roll for some of the buffed girls.

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>>18744821
>willing to use the no-rainbow banners for some extra crystals
Keep in mind that this is somewhat self-defeating since the flower stones you spend getting 500 crystals would have gotten you one gacha rainbow on average if used in the normal gachas. You can end up with one rainbow for the price of two.

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>>18744877
The "1 rainbow, 2 gold" spotlights are probably the best if you're shooting for a specific girl. You may have to wait quite long, though, given the number of rainbows in the game.

All gacha girls also get a re-run banner six months after their initial introduction, when their revival event starts. If you've missed a really cute girl who was released recently, saving up for that date is a good idea since it ensures that she'll show up for you to roll.

>>18744887
That's a good point. These 12% deals don't really seem to be well-received in general, especially since the second anniversary's no-strings-attached 30-flower stone banner is still fresh on everyone's minds.

I wonder how much that deal affected Japanese Anemone's status as a top ranker in the popularity contest. Her appearance is amazing enough by itself, though.

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>>18744877
I don't remember a banner like that in previous buff waves, though I didn't pay too much attention either, since banners with large rate-up pools are not that useful. There are ability-based banners once in a while, though, and that may be what you're looking for, since many buffs involve revamps of certain ability groups (this one had criticals and solar drive, for example).

The "1 rainbow, 2 gold" spotlights are still probably the best if you're shooting for a specific girl, but you may have to wait quite long because of the number of rainbows in the game. All gacha girls also get a re-run banner six months after their initial introduction, so if you've missed a really cute girl who was released recently, saving up for that date is a good idea.

>>18744887
That's a good point. These 12% deals don't really seem to be well-received in general, especially since the second anniversary's no-strings-attached 30-flower stone banner is still fresh on everyone's minds.

I wonder how much that deal affected Japanese Anemone's status as a top ranker in the popularity contest. Her appearance is amazing enough by itself, though.

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>>18744969
How long until they rerun a banner that ran in february for example?

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>>18744996
If it's a gacha #1 banner (which introduces new girls), there would be a guaranteed revival in August. Otherwise it's up to luck, and the exact same banner may not ever return.

[Anonymous No.]

>all this FKG discussion
Post teams.

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>>18745091
>Rape rarity promoted already
Good team.

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>>18745171
>>18745091
>Girl called rape
>Her H-scene isnt rape

False advertising

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone figured out how to use the fishing hermit girl that we got from the previous event in Aigis?

[Anonymous No.]

When will FKG add a mileage system like aigis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18745570
When will Aigis let me skip the summon animation like FKG?

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>>18745577
This, along with the ability to roll 10 at once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18745577
You could skip it before but the new animation made it so we can't. I appreciate the ability of having a guaranteed plat and black rarity on whatever banner I wish over the rest anyway.

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>>18745091
It's not team 1 but it's the one I use for most stages.

[Anonymous No.]

Not having hanamomo is killing me, I should have picked her with the anniv ticket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18743397
Guess I'll just drop the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Gunner 2AW incoming, Freddie once again proving that redheads with lots of firepower are top shelf.

>>18743397
>>18746529
Are you 100% positive that your system's clock is synced to internet time? Aigis is really finicky about that.

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>>18746631
loliceptfag here, tell me about the games he play

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746631
>Finally an actually cute event unit

Holy shit, about time. I absolutely love everything about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746648
>alchemist

Ew.

Well, at least she's automatically better than the shitty glasses one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746631
Fucking thicc man

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>>18745175
She's only called that because of some autist who was rampaging through the wiki back then. We should probably change her back to Field Mustard.

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>>18746811
Sadly you're not getting rid of that guy. He fucking stalks that wiki. He'll just change back whatever you change it to. Couldn't even leave "Oncidium" alone.

I mean seriously, just go check the activity history. He has nothing better to do than just be there all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746811
Isn't she already Field Mustard on the Wiki?

I just call her Canola or Aburana, regardless. Whichever one I feel like using.

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>>18746820
One thing I've never understood is that if he's so insistent about the naming conventions, then why the fuck doesn't he change the Snake Gourd page to Serpent Guord? That's the official translation for Karasuuri, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746845
Never mind, I see the redirect.

IIRC, FKGfan/MrHueHue was recently banned from Himeuta, so it might be safe to change back now.

Still using Canola though.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the black Valk on revival worth going hard on, or should I just get around to getting Black Emperor and trying to max skill/mincost him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746866
The problem with Reshia is that she's godawful even for event black standards. She's not cheap to deploy (which is the reason why you want valkyries for), and she's horrible even as a duelist for anything larger than ogres.

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>>18746631
Time for my dreams of her being useable to be fully destroyed.

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>>18746880
Sounds like a definite skip to me, then.
Thanks anon, looks like I'll get working on White Emperor, who I just realized I fucked up the name of in my first post.

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>>18746648
Thic chestlet. She looks like a dwarf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746631
That cannon kinda looks like a poor man's Adversa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746859
>Canola
I actually go out of my way to avoid using that, because it's the farmer equivalent to Orchid Wydleri. In the 1970s, some Canadian oilseed growers decided that their crop won't sell well when it's called rape. This was a good idea and evidently not uncommon in the fruit scene, hence why avocado and kiwi were once called alligator pear and Chinese gooseberry, except instead of like, oil mustard or something, the name they chose for it was fucking Canada Oil. At least it wasn't the Americans because otherwise we'd have to call it freedom turnip.

Field Mustard sounds better than Rape though, so I'll go with that instead.

>>18746820
Not to insult him, given the amount of stalking I do on this thread, but isn't that the guy who couldn't tell a centipede from a millipede?

This is some "what kind of bird is this" level shit, so he's probably some kind of android produced in a lab. Let's not crush his dreams of growing flowers instead of becoming the remorseless killing machine he was created to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18745091
Reached that stage when I can't put all my rainbows in one team.

I wonder how much time I'll have to wait for Botan rarity upgrade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747072
I think it's just the autistic kid who thinks the ENG FKG name translations are what EVERY single person should call the characters no matter what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747132
>>18747072
Shouldn't we just get him banned?
He was told many times to not touch DMM wiki with nutaku garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

Field mustard redirects to Rapeseed to turnip rape

Is it even possible to rape turnips?

[Anonymous No.]

Also, FKG experts, pls help. In addition to >>18747118, I have Higanbana and that rainbow with cross in my reserve, and 300 rainbow medals ready. What should I do to fucking clear Aqua Shadow EX?
I have plenty of various golds too, and 2 gold tickets unused.

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>>18747171
Please don't rape Turnip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747199
You can't clear EX with that team already?

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>>18747171
It's just the Latin rapum, which is turnip. Hence why broomrape, despite actually molesting broom plants, was named for its bulbous root nodules instead of its parasitic nature.

It's unrelated to rapere, which produced things like rapture, raptor, rapacious and rapt in addition to the other kind of rape.

>>18747199
Beyond the usual tactics of attack reduction, dodge, barrier, resurrection and strong single-target rainbows, it's up to crossing your fingers and praying, unfortunately. A full-investment solar drive squad works great too, but you're missing too many components for that.

This is the team I did it with, and I had several close calls before clinching it. Strawberry Candle was part of the finishing party as expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747243
>Broom rape
Sounds pretty painful if you ask me. I wouldn't go that far even in my H-games.

I still have a giggle every time I see her name anyway. She's so cute but she has a very unfortunate English name.

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>>18747199
What? I've cleared a good number of them with this team. You ought to be able to brute force them with that many rainbows.

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>>18747253
It's cute how she's comrades with Heather and Kochia, because they're all plants that were commonly used to make brooms.

And damn, forgot to mention the thing I made that post for: Turnip rape is literally just "turnip turnip".

>>18747255
I think the advice is about the Re: Sakura & Ume stage, which is head and shoulders above the regular EX stages.

Running a gauntlet of every EX with no heals in between would probably be easier than that nightmare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747278
>Re: Sakura & Ume stage
Which, coincidentally, is commonly referred to as "Ume and Sakura's rape dungeon"

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746631
>Freddie once again proving that redheads with lots of firepower are top shelf.
She's... not a redhead though? She's very obviously a light brunette. Hazelnut, if you will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747286
If Turnip rape is turnip turnip then does that mean Ume & Sakura have a turnip dungeon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747278
Oh, I see now, mb. Yeah, that one is another level of bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747286
As expected of Blossom Hill's strongest.

Also Blossom Hill's cutest, TAKTO really was inspired while designing these two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747298
Do these look like the faces of people who would do lewd things to turnip in a dungeon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747319
You never know, maybe. A wise hawk hides its talons so maybe they locked away turnip in their dungeon and nobody knows why they did it or what they plan to do to the poor girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747319
Their IPS daughter is really scary, though.

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>KamiPro added an auto-feature during sexscenes
>It seemingly only advances during voice acting, not the descriptions of whats happening
ONE STEP FORWARD
TWO STEPS BACK

[Anonymous No.]

God fucking dammit is it even possible to drop a decent SSR accessory? What are you guys using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747453
Been doing them religiously since release and I have yet an accessory with 3 good lines.
So far, my team is using a mix of SR/SSRs with ATK+/Double ATK+/HP/DEF. I'd love some affliction rate up for those that focus on debuffing, but no such luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746631
Those fucking hips. Hot damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746631
My first black roll on the gatcha. I'm glad I AW'd her.

[Anonymous No.]

If you were to farm gold on Aigis outside of the armor dailies, where would you do it? Is Pastoral Gate + selling the drops still one of the strategies?

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any anons who played Granblue Fantasy before picking up KamiPro here? How did you get used to how KamiPro plays? I've always wanted to pick up the game for cute girls and H, but the game feels so bad to play from a gameplay perspective. Having experienced Granblue Fantasy, I cannot play KamiPro since it feels like a massive downgrade from what I am used to playing. The lack of 2x SSR rateups and accessible ways for newer players to catch up really hurts my motivations as well.

Do you guys just muster strong wills/throw money at the game to force yourselves to enjoy it? Do I need to forget everything about Granblue? Do I just play and hope they will eventually implement more changes to make the gameplay more like Granblue? It's been two fucking years and you can still only use the supports of people on your friend's list. What happens if I am cursed to never roll a 100% gacha summon? Am I stuck using shit supports forever and will always lose in raids to whales and luckfags who can go 120% x 120%?

That's another thing that I'd like to ask: is the game P2W? Are there any magna/F2P pools that lets non-whales do almost as well as whales (i.e. F2P user and whale have same himes in party, but different pools and F2P gets 1st place in the raid because 1st place refreshes burst chains while the whale plays the game on slow speed) or do whales just flatout outdamage F2P no matter what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18746920
Were you thinking about that black emperor or did you watch too much porn?

[Anonymous No.]

>Inayama drew both Ingrid and Frederica
>We get aw2 fencer then aw2 gunner
>The only artist left with 2+ blacks who are possible candidates for aw2 is Tasaka Shinnosuke
Noooo we are getting HA and Bandits next

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747664

[Anonymous No.]

>>18747589
It's late so I'll try to give an almost coherent

>Are there any anons who played Granblue Fantasy before picking up KamiPro here? How did you get used to how KamiPro plays?
I just treat it like a diet grubble, no real stress from having to do all my daily hards, magnas and HLs ad infinitum because I never have enough quartz.
It's just >fun for me.

> The lack of 2x SSR rateups and accessible ways for newer players to catch up really hurts my motivations as well.
Legfest equivalents don't seem to be a thing that will be implemented soon, but as for the latter they've been working on that sort of decently enough. The grind for advent events now is pretty minimal for the bare minimum (MLB summon and weapon, which in contranst to grabble, don't have garbage stat totals which render them unusable and actually make up most of your grid), game's kinda generous with login campaigns and now the anniversary gives you an alright jumpstart with a free 10 roll and an SR pick ticket, which would help you start forming a first party, and trading for orichalcum/eidolon orbs lets you get gear from past events that tends to still hold up now.

>The lack of 2x SSR rateups and accessible ways for newer players to catch up really hurts my motivations as well.
Like I said, I just take it easy.
>Do I just play and hope they will eventually implement more changes to make the gameplay more like Granblue? It's been two fucking years and you can still only use the supports of people on your friend's list
If you mean about getting the summon aura effect from non-friends, that's been a thing for over a year now. If you mean actually being able to use the call on turn 1, then that's still a no. Not that I particularly mind since there isn't any call that you absolutely would want on the first turn.

>What happens if I am cursed to never roll a 100% gacha summon? Am I stuck using shit supports forever and will always lose in raids to whales and luckfags who can go 120% x 120%?
I guess you would be stuck going 45 + 120% and just exploiting the fact that whales are just not very smart people. Even then not many whales would have more than one or two 100% summons, LBd even.

>is the game P2W?
Hardly, a grid full of fucking raid SRs at SL20 does well enough for the great majority of content. You just upgrade with SSRs as you go getting them.

>Are there any magna/F2P pools that lets non-whales do almost as well as whales
Honestly considering how grids in this game contribute so very little to party DATA, you could beat a superwhale just by lucking out your triples.
New pseudo-atma weapons are coming and I'm certain I saw one at least have DATA as a skill so we'll see.

>do whales just flatout outdamage F2P no matter what?
Not really?
I mean in extreme cases like a whale with 2 xFLB Hanuman and multiple MLB scissors or whatever the hell you aren't winning, but it's the same as trying to MVP race a Varuna whale, you just don't, that's why they're extremes.

Give it a shot, it's a 50%, you either like it or you don't.
Rerolling is also a thing you could try if you absolutely feel you need 100% to start the game.

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>>18747597
I was thinking black rarity emperor because I'd totally blanked on his name.

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>>18747664
Misa aw and saw soon too I hope.

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>>18747677
>Like I said, I just take it easy.
was meant to be in response to
>Do you guys just muster strong wills/throw money at the game to force yourselves to enjoy it?

And I forgot to mention all my input was on the DMM version.

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>>18747664
Makirin
Get ready for Birb Sophie (completada) and Twintails Sophie (poder maximo)

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>>18747677
Thanks for the detailed response. Diet grubble seems to be a nice way to describe things.

>If you mean about getting the summon aura effect from non-friends, that's been a thing for over a year now. If you mean actually being able to use the call on turn 1, then that's still a no. Not that I particularly mind since there isn't any call that you absolutely would want on the first turn.
Thanks for pointing this out for me. I assumed that since I wasn't able to use supports on turn 1 that I wasn't getting the elemental boost. That makes things a lot better.

I guess the plan with this game is to take things easy and build grids one event weapon at a time? It'll feel weird since LB3 magna grids are quite easy to build in grubble but there's no need to rush grids in this game I guess.

It's also nice to know that the only ones with a serious advantage are hyperwhales. I wonder if they will go the KMR route some day and start implementing elemental resistance so that whales can't use their same party and grid to dominate most content.

Again, thanks anon.

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>>18747589
I started Kamipro, then I started GBF to see the original and dropped it soon afterwards.
> The lack of 2x SSR rateups and accessible ways for newer players to catch up really hurts my motivations as well.
At a certain point in time, the lack of the legfes was a real problem. If you started kamipro at the very beginning, you would have lots of extra stones so it didn't matter. Right now it also doesn't matter since you can easily get an absurd amount of stones (3000 + tickets per event, + great amounts of login rewards) that makes up for the lack of 2x. If you were unfortunate enough to start it when I did, it was bad yeah. But it's not anymore.
>accessible ways for newer players to catch up really hurts my motivations as well.
This is straight up ridiculous. There is pretty much no way to catch up in GBF beside whaling right now. If you're not trolling, you might think this if you're an old GBF player, one of those who started very early. When I started it was already completely unfeasible to catch up: you need all grids, most of which need other endgame grid to get a chance at farming them. Not to mention farming for Jittenshuu etc. Comapre it to Kamipro where you get your best weapons from advents, which can be effectively cleared with SR grids.
>is the game P2W?
There's no competition in this game besides unions. Even then, the rewards for said competition is only more stones. You can't outdamage a p2p player who plays seriously but as a f2p you can do literally everything with ONE good grid. And by everything I mean everything you have to solo, you can solo it off-element: guild order, access5 etc. as a f2p of course. With no 100% eidola either (although having one helps, you can always find someone who has one to help you).

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>>18747713
>There is pretty much no way to catch up in GBF beside whaling right now.
You probably shouldn't talk about a game you've never played with any authority honestly.

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>>18747713
Rainbow meta and the GBF legit just not starting until you hit HL (because otherwise all you do is just farm your magna grid to get ready for HL to begin with) actually is kind of a peeve I have with the game myself.
SRs also being absolute garbage for the longest time (like until early 2017) making it so every character you got from the gacha that isn't an SSR (that is ACTUALLY good, so get Carmelina and her tits out of here) also was kinda bad when in comparison Kamihime had shit like Beelzebub from day 1.

but fuck magna II
all I wanted was dark to be good and all I got was A FUCKING STICK and no shit the best magna grids getting even better
I will kill KMR

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>>18747727
Are you trolling me? Explain to me how you can catch up on all grids? Because I certainly couldn't, and I played as the neet I am for some months before dropping it. I managed to get "halfway" through my wind grid. At least if I don't count how underskilled my weapons were, I just farmed my magnas at every chance I got and gathered as many SSR I could. I was still so far away from being able to farm the Xeno bosses I just dropped it. I mean I needed a fire grid to farm the Wind Xeno. But How do I get a fire grid good enough? I have to farm a Magna water grid. But I didn't even finish my magna wind grid... Repeat ad nauseam. It's impossible.

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>>18747727
He's right though.

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>>18747713
>This is straight up ridiculous. There is pretty much no way to catch up in GBF beside whaling right now.
I can't speak from personal experience but I have a friend who started pretty recently and is now rank 140+ and two 5* GW characters after roughly 3-4 months of playing. He has at least a basic 3* magna grid for all elements and has even participated in a few U.Baha HL runs with his main pool.

I'm not sure how far 3-4 months will get me in Kamihime seeing as how it looks like progression is highly dependent on farming ATK SRs while replacing them with MLB event ATK SSRs but it won't be getting me anywhere near lategame that's for sure.

I can understand how overwhelmed a new player feels towards the grind though however but I think it's at least reassuring on the Granblue side that new players can at least leech magna raids for a steady supply of skill level fodder and ATK SSRs.

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>>18747765
>and is now rank 140+ and two 5* GW characters after roughly 3-4 months of playing.
Is your friend a SEAnig or something?
I've been playing for like 8 months and hardly have 1 finished grid with the rest being unleveled and only rank 110.

The ping is honestly discouraging. There's raid trains where I can't do anything and miss out on multiple runs because the boss died before I was done loading the fight to begin with.

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I would also like to add that I actually really liked GBF art (except for the battle sprites) and the relative complexity of the bosses (some of them at least). Even with the new ragnas in Kamipro there is nothing like that still and I would never argue that, if you are already ahead in GBF, you should switch to Kamipro for the gameplay.
>>18747765
> He has at least a basic 3* magna grid for all elements and has even participated in a few U.Baha HL runs with his main pool.
I have literally no idea how he did that in 4 months. As I said before, I had a single 3LB magna grid (plus a few other weapons here and there) for my main element after 2 magnafes. IIRC there's one every two months.
>won't be getting me anywhere near lategame that's for sure.
Actually, an SR grid at max skill level can probably carry you through everything besides acces5. Not sure about GO but you don't even need to actually beat GO to get the mats you need.

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>>18747778
>IIRC there's one every two months.
That's how much things have changed.
The current magfes refuses to end.

It's leading up to 2 full months and you can fucking bet it's gonna get extended for golden week at least another 2 weeks. I just want it to be over. I can't even host some HLs now because most people are busy building their mII grids and the rest are filthy leeches.

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>>18747782
Well that's certainly better. Maybe I wouldn't have dropped it if I started now? Who knows.

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>>18747798
You have less than 2 minutes to log on and do a 10 roll while still under legfest.

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>>18747741
You could have taken advantage of multiple magnafests to grind basic grids for every element. There have been a lot of free pulls over the past year as well that could have given you a nice variety of characters for each element along with Moons to trade in for a healthy supply of AP and BP refills. You could have gotten a strong friend or guildmate to help secure 2nd place in magna raids for the extra chance to flip or red chest SSR. Granblue gives its players a ton of chances to catch up and is continuing to do so with so many QOL updates each year that makes it less harder for new players to get into the game.

>>18747774
He is no SEAfag but he had a lot of help. 8 months with only one finished grid sounds like you weren't able to get much help though which is unfortunate. Even I was able to finish one grid in ~4 months of casual playing when I first started - back when magnas were 5 BP, players could only hold up to 5 BP at a time, and BP regenerated at a rate of 1 every 20 minutes. There were no Moons to trade in for BP as well and magnafest had only happened once during those 4 months.

>>18747778
>Actually, an SR grid at max skill level can probably carry you through everything besides acces5. Not sure about GO but you don't even need to actually beat GO to get the mats you need.
That sounds pretty nice.

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>>18747805
>You could have taken advantage of multiple magnafests to grind basic grids for every element.
That's what I tried to do. As I said before, there were two magnafest in the 4 months I played. I played for 6+ hours a day during those. I still couldn't get more than one grid done, and it didn't matter because I didn't have the skill levels needed to tackle harder content. In Kamipro you can skill SSRs up to 20 easily with SRs. In fact, I'm still skilling my MLB SSRs with SR: with just 4 skill level 3 SRs and some Rs you can still skill up a skill level 24 weapon with 100% chance. In GBF you need SSR fodder since like level 10 or something? I don't remember, but that too was absurd. Plus the Bahamut weapons (I started after the event where they gave one for free too...) were even worse, and you needed that because of the multipliers (which don't exist in Kamipro).
My head hurts just remembering these things.

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>>18747838
Better to have a game with content than a clone with no content. You're also playing extremely suboptimally if you're not swimming in fodder spending that much time playing.

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Cute! I actually like her normal outfit and animation more, but I'm glad she became a top-tier idol. I wanted to ask, is she time-limited or would I theoretically be able to get her like 3 months from now, too? It doesn't say anywhere, but AFAIK those alternate outfits are always time limited to get.

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>>18747765
>two 5* GW characters after roughly 3-4 months of playing
You'd have to be so autistic to do this I'm not even sure it's possible as an actual human with responsibilities.

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>>18747858
>Better to have a game with content than a clone with no content.
I agree. If I had decent grids on GBF I would probably play that instead. Alas, I don't (nor do I have as much time as I had back then anymore), and instead I have a strong grid in Kamipro which at least makes it possible for me to actually play it and not leeching.

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>>18747871
Non-themed (read: holiday) alternate versions are not limited with the exception of (I guess?) Dark Amaterasu.
In a couple months, Beelzebub, Eligor and Mephistopheles are gonna get fire versions that also aren't limited, and Caspiel (and some other I forgot?) gets a light version too.

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>>18747804
Thanks for the heads up anon. Unfortunately I completely missed your post though.

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>>18747933
Oh no I remember, Caspiel gets her light variant during the Trivia event which also has Artemis SSR and dark Diana

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shimapan

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>>18748019
>Hey, Pale Rider, how many levels of Miku expy are you on?
>Pale Rider: I don't know like maybe 4 or 5.
>You're like a baby, watch this

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Just bought 20.000 gold by mistake. Spilled milk, etc., I will just get another choice ticket next time it comes out.

Got pity Shu-Xian which I wanted so I got black ticket now... Any advice? I'm thinking Moltena or Silvia but maybe some veteran sees weak spot in my team? I am not dick-picking. I consider making Youkai team for fun. Never got past level 5 Majin.

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>>18748040
PS Rinne also considered, but I have 2 good healers already...

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>>18748040
>>18748040
>Shu-Xian
>pity black
She's on par with actually broken blacks like Mortena/Silvia/Lapis.
Nevertheless if I were you, I'd go for Miyabi, actually. Miyabi + Lapis/Elysse is just nonsense-tier of ridiculous, with the former often making makai maps a cakewalk. Silvia is also a decent alternative.

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>>18748102
I think by pity black he meant the guaranteed roll.

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>>18748040
Any black archer, black dancer.

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>>18748040
go for the black dancer, you have a very solid team and the dancer scales (ridiculously) with how good your team is.

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>>18745091
I've come to realize that my team's numbers are quite weak considering I'm past 800 days of login bonus already. Effective strength is decent though thanks to Saffron soloing nearly everything.

Sadly, my OCD dictates me to fully amp a unit before I put her in my team. I have Stock almost good to go, and about 5+ other girls I want to upgrade to create one or more ultimate loli strike teams (Baikamo, Bamboo, Bride Hanamomo, Begonia, Money Tree, Bride Nerine, Lion's Ear, omghowwillievergetalltheseampoules).

With the newly introduced rainbow amps, I sure hope they'll add more ways to get regular ones soon ...


>>18747199
Based on my personal experience, Saffron is the solution to all your problems. Thanks to her, I never thought the Sakura/Ume stage was that hard; I actually had more problems with the Higanbana one.

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>>18748285
Yeah, you have the same number of 6* as me there and there's no way I could get that Ex stage done.

Saffron can go die in a fire.

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>shiropro event
holy fuck it's Lu Bu.

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>>18748353
>got lazy after getting enough orbs for a 10 roll and just did story missions
Welp, time to do the rest.

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>got her from the free roll
There goes my luck for this month

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>>18748384
I got a dupe Behemoth. Maybe its cleanse effect will be useful in a year or so.

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>>18748384
Please don't die anon.

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>thought I was getting plenty of rolls already just logging in on Kamihime
>decide to actually do the event since it's the 2nd anniversary and all
>literally rolling every 5 minutes
Jesus christ

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>>18748506
>>thought I was getting plenty of rolls already just logging in on Kamihime
1 free roll a day isn't 'plenty'. It's pretty stingy. GBF was doing 10-100 free rolls a day.

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>>18748537
I meant logging in over a long time.
I made like 21k doing the bare minimum over 3 months.

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Finally got all event blacks from reissues so I'm free to buy White Fodder with my surplus TC now

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>>18748040
>>18748102
>>18748159
>>18748171
Thanks anones. I hope it is not troll. I have never used dancer before, hope it is not beyond my skill. I will make it my pick after leveling up Shu-Xian.

Any brotips for plat/other blacks leveling priority? I think Blanche is quite obvious for now. I wish there was Moltena for synergy.

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What's the best cuckhime I can pick with the SR miracle ticket?

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>>18748636
You won't be disappointed. Combine Miyabi + Lapis + any damage dealer of your choice and watch things evaporate.
Get an Aisha 2AW if possible, 40% cooldown reduction is great, just pick which one you want to focus - melee (dragon) or ranged (turtle).

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http://fkg.blog.jp/archives/75590330.html
>Winter Rose's centipede, linked to Nidhoruga raid bosses (turns out that "oruga" is Spanish for caterpillar) -> Nidhoggr
>Nidhoggr's rival, linked to Hraes Vlinder raid bosses ("vlinder" is Dutch for butterfly) and the powder you gather during his event -> Hraesvelgr
>Earthworms (?) sealed under Mizu Hallway, probably reserved for later development -> Midgardsormr (ミズガルズズオルム so it's still Mizu)
Another nice catch by 2ch anons there. FKG continues its long game of planting hints early on and harvesting them after 2 years, naming ojisan is showing his true power now.

I'm surprised by this kind of foresight, since some of it was developed even before FKG made it big. Did they really sit in a meeting and say "well, our fledgling browser game will probably die in six months like all the other DMM games, but just in case it doesn't, here's our setting's plot for the next ten years"?

>>18748636
>I hope it is not troll, I have never used dancer before
No worries there, dancers are some of the strongest units in the right team and don't take too much planning to use. Their core strength is coordinated burst damage, and since their boost works on a per-hit basis, they are best combined with units that may have lower attack but shit out a lot of projectiles (Rion first and foremost, then Nanaly, Margeret, Asherah, Elizabeth and so on). As >>18748659 says, Lapis has a lot to gain from them as well (they basically double her damage), and Minerva is also good with them since, despite her high attack, her attack speed is not too shabby.

Your team is really well-developed though, so I don't have a strong recommendation beyond "go all in on Shu". Maybe get Kasumi to AW for the youkai boost and invisibility shenanigans?

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>>18748719
>I'm surprised by this kind of foresight, since some of it was developed even before FKG made it big. Did they really sit in a meeting and say "well, our fledgling browser game will probably die in six months like all the other DMM games, but just in case it doesn't, here's our setting's plot for the next ten years"?
More like
>Here's what we're going to do in two months
>3 years later...

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>>18748719
>Kasumi
O shi-
Didn't realise she got that skill, thanks.

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>>18748719
The overall plot and world building should be the first thing they came up when they designed the game.
It's only matter of the game lasting long enough for them to actual flesh out and develop these plot points.

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>>18748659
I know Aisha needs AW2, but advantage seems insignificant compared to other units that await progress.

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Are they spending more on marketing than in the actual game?

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>>18748870
Well you're not wrong. Get Miyabi and Shu Xian up asap.

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>>18748911
And we still don't know anything about the gameplay or whatever.
Maybe Kamipro success got into their heads.

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>>18748968
Someone said months back it was going to be pvp-heavy.

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>>18745091
>All those rainbows
Too blinding. Then again, this is from last Valentine up to Curry Plant and then resumed from this Valentine.

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>>18749053
Good taste in event girls, anon.

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>>18748968
They've been posting updates about the game systems over the past couple weeks, though.
I'm still optimistic, but I'm worried whether it'll meet THEIR expectations.

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>>18747664
You say that like it isn't what most of us have been waiting for and complaining about every other thread. Personally, I've been sitting on Dina's AW2 units and orbs for about a year and a half.

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>>18745091
おまえ わ．．．？！
Two and a half weeks in the game. Halfway reliably three-star-beat 80 stamina event quests now (as long as I don't forget to solar-blast at the right times)

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>>18745091
>>18749694
wrong pic. Here's the right one

the other pic was meant for >>18748968, just trying to say that
>don't know anything about the gameplay or whatever
is a bit of an exaggeration

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>>18747211
Yes, its the only stage in the game I cannot clear yet.

There's "haha, 60% dmg reduction on first turn, 30% on second for each your squad" + "haha, we OHKO one or two knights per turn". Considering that most of my squads are alpha-strike oriented, it hurts a lot.

>>18748285
Gonna try with Saffron then.

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>>18749786
Sparaxis' pursuit, Hagi's double attack and miss debuff, and Kerria's kerrianess were my MVPs for dealing with them.
The rest of my teams were then mostly stall set-ups to get in the last hits.

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>>18749010
It's garbage then.

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>Union member joins in raid battle
>Doesn't actively participate
>Doesn't even have the fucking courtesy to click auto-attack
Honestly, fuck this union. I'm out as soon as the event is over.

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>>18750351
maybe he accidentally joined and didn't want to steal your PP

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>>18750351
Isn't your current event on nutaku gluttony? Autoattacking would make her possibly regenerate more hp than take damage if he's too low/demon is too high.

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>>18750410
I have absolutely nothing against "Stealing PP" if he would just help in the fight.
>>18750419
See >>18741601. I know I'm bitching around like an old hag today, but come on now. The sheer amount of items you get makes it all more or less bearable, though.

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>>18748285
Okay, what did I miss about Saffron?
She was obliterated on first turn of first (lv130) enemy.

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>everyone just stopped farming the new 90 catast/no more pubs to join
I'll never get my extra access slots.

[Anonymous No.]

Somehow luckied it out, but clearing it four more times is going to be huge challenge.

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>>18750419
Only the expert one heals herself if I remember correctly.

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>>18750542
No one wants to waste 40 min to kill these shit when there are a raid event and 2nd anniversary event going on.

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>3 pity blacks for shu-xing
>3 dupes
Just let me die.

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>>18750622
>3 pity blacks
RIP in the bottom of the ocean

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>>18750515
Saffron's main advantage is her exceptionally cohesive kit: Dodge synergizes with counter, which synergizes with defense up, and her abilities have some of the highest multipliers in their category so she can stall for ages while dishing out respectable damage from counterattacks. But as a defensive rainbow, she really needs extra stats for optimal performance (together with Kerria, she's probably the rainbow who benefits most from high ampules and unlocked equipment slots), so amping her is a must. In addition, the dodge-piercing in Re: Ume & Sakura means that her effectiveness is limited in that stage.

There are many die-hard Saffron fans, but I never really liked her kit (or her, I had expected a big tits drillhair ojou-sama from her teaser lines). She's still overwhelmingly popular, though, and I'll still ship her with Echinacea.

>>18750549
Congrats, but I really wouldn't recommend trying for multiple clears, since that 5-clear quest is only the tip of the iceberg. That quest line goes all the way to 25 clears, so not rushing that one is probably the wise course of action.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone mentioned 病魔の鼠 was a joke with mage prince but does anyone have a video on how to do it as easy and painlessly as possible?

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>>18750767
You still need quite a few other specific things, it's not really a joke.
>Fuuko&others but no AW neccesary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs7F4jfvdQ
>5 2AW, no Fuuko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCB-1ZNly1Y

You probably saw them already, but I don't think there's anything easier than this.

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>>18750959
I saw the 2nd one but I dont have a curse doctor and I dont want to level the revival girl because I dont really like her. What can I replace her with?

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>>18750767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCB-1ZNly1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOTBdQjUnsY

Just search the Japanese name on either NicoNico or Youtube, and you'll get other guides. I question whomever it was that called Plague Rats a "joke" with Kera Prince, because it's still one of the hardest story maps regardless.

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>>18750970
Anything that can kill things fast enough from far enough, more archers or ninjas or whatever. I guess he used her mostly because she can fill many roles at once so he can show off using less units, but as long as you can kill the stuff that rushes at you from afar it should be ok. Ninjas and horse archers are especially nice here since ranged spots are limited. I used a priest warrior to keep the healing up since you won't have damage mitigation without a curse doctor. 2AW Rinne also helps with her untargettability, if you have her you can place her in the center near the bottom safely. If you don't have her blame yourself for not ticketing her.

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>>18751068
>If you don't have her blame yourself for not ticketing her.
I'd rather not spend a hundred dollars on aigis thank you.

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>>18751083
2 tickets are free for everyone and she's the best unit you can choose with them. There's no excuse.

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>>18751170
Not him but I picked Sarah and Ingrid.
I picked Sarah going in blind.

Don't regret either of my choices.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Saki or Chydis still worth picking up from trade post these days?
I have Rinne AW2 for healing, but lack a decent 2nd healer. I've been using gold Iris, I was thinking I'd just raise the plat revival healer, but I'm not sure how good she is.

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>>18751170
But everyone told me if I'm not dickpicking I should pick Aisha and Elyse

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>>18751262
>tfw I dickpicked Aisha and Elyse because they were the only two lolis in the pool

Its not my fault I like little girls.

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>>18751262
did you ask in the year 2016
physical damage mitigation packed on a single target healer and measly mapwide damage ain't top shit at all
especially when for the latter you can just use Leona who's more versatile

[Anonymous No.]

>Set wood sorrel as home screen girl
>She greets me dressed like this

Is this girl an exhibitionist?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is gold such a big bottleneck in Aigis? Raising a single black unit to AW2/SAW costs more than 900000 in gold alone which can take weeks to gather.

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>>18751333
But I can't deploy Leona and delete the entire map in seconds

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>>18751362
Do you completely ignore fame and gold dailies or something?

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>>18747664
>>18747697
So we can expect one class from one artist, then another from another artist, before they go back to the previous artist?

>>18751362
Should've used your SC on gold farming during drop bonus instead of rolling another gold dupe.

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>>18751387
Why do that anymore when you've got pikachu prince instead?

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>>18751448
Because I can use both. A destroy everything team with the theme of huge map AoEs would be pretty fun and satisfying.

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>>18751333
>ain't top shit at all
Too bad I had no way of knowing this as a new player, I still see the two recommended here too.

I've pulled mostly high tier blacks from the shrine anyway so I don't think my naivety has hurt me too much outside of not having RInne for when Barbatos rolls around. But yeah Rinne will probably be my pick if they give us another free black ticket next anni unless they update it with newer characters which I'm doubtful they'd do because of the paid ticket.

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>>18751480
I picked Aisha and Elyse for my starter tickets and I've blasted through most things in the game pretty easily.

At first I was skeptical about Aisha but she started to pull her weight and more at AW/SAW. I even got her AW2 for more damage and cool art so I cant say I'm disappointed or that I regret it. I do wish I had stuff like Alice and/or Rinne because I lack early game stuff or stuff to keep my whole team alive but I live in a 7th world country and the thought of spending a hundred dollars on a ticket causes me physical pain so I'll just hope for another free ticket and get Rinne then.

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>>18751480
>free black ticket
How can it be free if you have to pay 100$ for it?

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>>18751503
He's talking about the anniv ticket we got at the end of last year anon

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>>18751503
Two new tickets were made available on the anniversary, anon. A second free ticket that was the same as the first, and the first paid ticket with an extended pool.

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>>18751511
>>18751520
Oh is the level 25 ticket the one added during the anniversary? I only started playing this January so I assumed that's been there for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances that they add another anni ticket next anniversary? I could really use an Altair for early ramping.
The buyable black ticket is only purchasable once, right? Otherwise I'd be hard torn between Altair and Miyabi.

[Anonymous No.]

I picked Aisha and Elyse for my free black tickets. I don't really regret Aisha but Elyse I do regret. I rarely deploy her and regret not getting Rinne instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751573
I'd say there's a pretty good chance they add a new paid and free ticket. The thing about shit like anni celebrations is you're gonna end up looking bad if you don't try to outdo or at the very least go even with the previous years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751243
May as well get Chydis. She's still one of the better units in the class due to high stats and a long-lasting attack/range skill. I mean she's just pure stats, but sometimes that's all you need in a healer.

Saki is... tricky. She's solid DPS against low-defense enemies and exceptionally good at handling swarms of them. With her SAW, she has 312 range and hits three enemies at a time with assassination chance. Ninjas have become a lot more useful since they cut their block down to a natural 0, so they do have a nice niche, but she's a black, so keep cost in mind.

>>18751271
Shoulda picked Dina. She's cuter than both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751751
>312 range
Whoops. Should clarify that this is as Ninjin. It's 260 if you go Jiraiya, but if you want a Jiraiya you should just use Nagi. Saki is for damage. Nagi is for weird ninja tanking strats.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do the aigis devs hate pirate and bandit

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751586
Rinne is overrated. You didn't miss anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751913
>Rinne is overrated
There have been grossly incorrect posts in these threads before but this reached a new height.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751946
Rinne is definitely great and I'm going to try to get her the next chance I can but she's not "Should have gotten her first thing or you're playing the game wrong" good. No unit is that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751962
The thing is she's hands down the best healer in the game and her class and unit passives end up trivializing a lot of content for blind runs.
There is nothing to "overrate" her for because she rightfully deserves any praise she gets from a gameplay perspective.

She isn't absolutely needed to clear most content but she's still one of, if not THE best unit in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm forced to keep playing Kamipro on mobile because the app has a certain issue (that's supposedly common enough?) that makes the game hang until you tap reload when using burst attacks from time to time.
Is this a thing that only happens to me because of my thirdworlder internet or?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751751
Neat, as a semi-recent refugee to the DMM version, I wasn't aware of the ninja AW2s - that definitely makes Saki seem pretty good. Shame about Jiraiya not being the go-to path though, that art is great.
Good point about Chydis, I do really just need pure stats until I hopefully luck into a Salia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752021
If you need raw stats for healing, Elias is an option too.
Range lowers to a little over 200 during skill for supercharged heals, with the added benefit of not being an elven like Chydis so stray AoE splash or some fuckface demon don't kill her by grazing her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752035
Isn't the problem with Elias how long I'll be waiting for her?
I'm not sure where she is in the revival schedule, or what the next few will be. I was hoping to have some time to try and max White Emperor with TCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752048
>Isn't the problem with Elias how long I'll be waiting for her?
Going by the event timeline and given how reruns lately have MOSTLY followed it to a T, new bunch of reissues in order should be Kokoro -> Rösel -> Meiling -> Elias -> Meredith -> Shino -> Erica -> Amy

Meiling was actually reissued rather recently to push Hakunokami early IIRC, so she might just get skipped for Elias right away. And on another note, Erica is a HW themed unit so she might get skipped as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752057
Thanks for the timeline, I ha dno idea what it looked like. I was planning on trying to get a decent Rösel when she came back, despite having Socie, so that's good news.
Are any of the others aside from Elias worth putting effort into? I'm still hoping for Hibari soonish.

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>>18752083
Shino is honestly underrated.
An unhittable token that attacks at the speed of sound for huge (massive under SAW) ranged physical damage is great and I'm kinda sad everyone sleeps on her.
Amy is worth considering as a ranged ramp for those maps where fielding KT first is just not very safe, but a hard pass if you have any of the premium merchants, other than the fact she can restock her tokens.

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>>18751983
>THE best unit in the game
lol, overrated
>The thing is she's hands down the best healer in the game and her class and unit passives end up trivializing a lot of content for blind runs.
You're fucked if you don't have good tanker. She doesn't help you there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752145
>tanks
>needed
???
Just stall with tokens and win?
If you can't beat the boss before running out of tokens you weren't gonna beat that map even with the top tanks anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752104
I'll definitely try to get a good Shino, then. Hopefully I can do as well for her as I did for Metus, if not better (-2 CR, 10/10 skill).
I honestly have no ramp outside of KT, and a Liese that I'm trying to mincost - hell, I haven't even AW'd Katie because I have so many high value blacks that need theirs ASAP.
I tried pretty hard for Diera, did a full 33 rolls on her banner and got cucked with Socie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18751983
>Lapis is the best unit
>New zombie is the best unit
>Rinne is the best unit

Seems like there's a lot of best units in this game

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752162
Oh then Rinne is shit then. glad you understand. You don't need healer for token.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752162
>Rinne is THE best unit in the game
>Just stall with tokens and win

So if I stall with tokens and win with tokens then why do I need Rinne? I can't heal my tokens, tokens will not count as deaths against me and I can place them anywhere without worrying so whats the point in bring a healer then?

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>>18752206
>>18752239
You don't need the tokens until the boss actually starts moving, brain genius.

[Anonymous No.]

I got AW2 Blanche and Moltena at lv 91 and 92 respectively.
Any more exp thrown their way would just be diminishing returns, wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752257
But if I'm going to be tanking the big guys with tokens then why do I need -THE BEST- healer for the trash mobs? Surely I'd be way better off with more firepower and a good enough healer since trash mobs don't hit for much if they even hit at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752284
You haven't done any majin at all, have you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752284
At the upper levels even the adds are dangerous. You won't be able to get away with not tanking at least some of them - high range multiheal gets more and more important as it progresses.

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>>18752306
>You won't be able to get away with not tanking at least some of them
So tanks are necessary after all and you are fucked if you don't have one then. Seems like we're going back to where we started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752316
Have you ever done anything past Pastoral Gate or is this one of those weird things where you're embarassing yourself by ignoring the abundance of ranged/AoE mechanics in the game right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752306
>>18752349
Yeah right, use 500 atk healer to heal 2000HP is fucking easy, whos need good tanker when you have the "BEST" unit in the game with multiheal and AOE

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752349
So let me get this straight. This multihealer is the BEST unit in the game but I'm going to be using tokens to tank the boss because tanks aren't necessary. But I actually need tanks because the adds are dangerous so I can't just stall with tokens all the way.
I'm also going to be taking all my enemies from a safe ranged distance and abusing AoE mechanics to kill them but the healer is the BEST unit in the game right now and not the units deleting my enemies before they pose a threat or the units keeping them at bay without melting in the face of these big bosses.

I understand everything now, I'm sorry to have doubted you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752021
>Shame about Jiraiya not being the go-to path though, that art is great.
Yeah, Ninjin isn't too different from her AW art and Jiraiya is cute. On the plus side, she is a black unit, so you can snag another copy at no cost whenever you pick one and use it for the other anyway.

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>>18751913
How is she overrated? She is probably the most used black healer in videos for harder maps. At least in the ticket pool I would have much preferred picking her over Elyse.

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>>18752365
I run Rinne and Dina and AFK Shuten Doji in the current subjugation with zero buttons pressed just fine though. If you two autistic shitters want to continue to quantify everything in a static vaccuum with no regard for the reality of the actualy gameplay you do you, but there's a lot of factors at play if you ever want to theorycraft something that's actually happening.

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>>18752417
So here's the thing

You don't need hypertanks to deal with the dangerous adds. Medium tier duelists & melee supports do that role decently.

The big bads are so bad that even the hypertanks don't do enough against quite a few.

Then there's stuff like Phenex you can't even tank with either tokens or tank, but still shits out AoE dps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752761
Just use Leona or Nunaly

[Anonymous No.]

>School themed event
>Delinquent giovanni with the most likes and RTs
Nips got good taste.

[Anonymous No.]

List of "should have been a black" platinums:
Jerome
Zenobia
Palfy
Nadia
Konoha
Saria
Elizabeth
Totono
Leora
Livre
Clarice

List of "hah fucking broken" blacks:
Moltena
Altia
Elysse
Aisha
Rinne
Farne
Nanaly/Ashera
Silvia
Teeny
Miyabi
Lapis
Shu Xian

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752982
>Elyse on that list and not Aix
nani?

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>>18752982
God damn, I've been playing Aigis for almost one year and I have none of the units listed there except for Elyse (which I picked from the black ticket).
Guess Aigis-sama hates me. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753041
I have 3 of the blacks and 5 of the plats, where does that put me?

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>>18752761
Phenex has no AoE DPS by itself, and its salamanders and ifrit are generally manageable without Rinne. It can also be tanked because, despite being flying, it still has to slow down and attack something. I tanked it with Sylvia in what might be the dumbest Phenex tactics.

But here's my case for Rinne being the best black in the game: No other map absolutely demands a single unit as much as Barbatos requires Rinne. Elyse trivializes Vepar and can enable some hilarious things against Shuten, but you can do these without her and not miss much. Lapis breaks Glasya (and every other map for that matter), Fiore and Kurama break Furfur, Miyabi lets you completely ignore Bifrons and Phenex, Sylvia can duel endgame bosses with no support, but none of these will make you think "shit, I wish I had this particular unit" as much as Barbatos' stupid fog gimmick and Rinne.

This is because other blacks can cheese out their ace maps, while Rinne reduces Barbatos to a manageable level rather than the biggest pile of bullshit in the game. Multi-targeting, permanent invisibility and the often-overlooked but extremely strong dodge chance are just the icing on the cake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753054
You should add that the new Shu Xian would also break any majin bosses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752699
I run only Sylvia for Shuten doji, whats now?

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>>18753054
Is Barbatos fog that bad? Cant you just use any other feng shui? I remember seeing a video where the majin itself just dies to silvia in a corner of the map where the rest of the video is how to deal with the swarm of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753061
She wouldn't be able to deal with Barbatos, but Kimaris would be trivialized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753041
>>18753053
8 plats and 6 blacks from that list. Moltena is my favourite.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does no one remember Agares and its speed of sound golem/archdemon mooks and 250 "FUCK YOU" area of effect physicals that come out of nowhere because the first form starts rolling out early and dies to a slight breeze

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753068
He is bullshitting. Sylvia makes Barbatos easier more than Rinne. On level 15 you need every black anyway

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>>18753068
In all honesty, Barbatos fog is not that bad, I'm just pissed at it. See, other majin have setups that require you to use your units in new combinations to overcome their gimmicks. I think Shuten is one of the best-designed maps in the game, for example, because it rewards AoE and UP-on-kill mechanics that are not used often in other situations. Barbatos in contrast is the "no fun allowed" majin who is only challenging because it gimps your units.

Rinne has the advantage of healing through the fog, so instead of bringing a feng shui and dumping her into a far corner to heal herself for the entire map, you can actually use her as a healer. But I think "you have to bring a feng-shui to this map and use her purely to lower the fog DPS, without her contributing anything to actual combat" is the best way to describe the kind of majin Barbatos is. I'd take his stupid tree bow and fuck his ass with it if I could.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753104
>On level 15 you need every black anyway
There are actual runs where you can clear level 15 with only plat units. Kimaris is the exception to the rule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753066
It's almost like you're starting to understand that not every person has every single unit and an easily accessible unit with extremely high versatility is good. Maybe in another year your dumb seanigger/Nutaku brain will evolve beyond a simple primate's line of thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753121
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32501511
Actually there's also Kimaris 15 with plat and below:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm32537822

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753068
At 11+ the range cut gets so bad that Rinne can barely heal the units in spots next to her. Plus, it's a weather effect, not a field effect, so Feng Shui only lowers the duration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753124
But Rinne is the "BEST" unit in the game>>18751983. Are you fucking stupid fanboy chicken out now?

[Anonymous No.]

Who else here is cursed to never draw good plats?
I have a good number of blacks, but I've never drawn a single one of the amazing plats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753194
I'm cursed to draw meme blacks and pretty good plats. Things can always be worse.

>>18753155
This is an english speaking board seanigger, I have no idea what you're saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753202
Whaever makes you sleep at night, troll kun

[Anonymous No.]

Frederika and Moltena are the good blacks in the next pickup, right? I have Blanche to combo with Molt too.
Was thinking I might pull for the chance at Zenobia in the plat pool, especially since I don't have any ramp or good plats, and I'll probably hit a pity black while I do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753194
My main draws good plats and even draws plats from the shard summon. Alt has more blacks but only decent plats. However, the alt's blacks are none of the "top tier" ones but main has some. Which makes it difficult to decide which account to buy the ticket on, maybe I'll just wait for it to come back and pick then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18745091
Here's my newbie team

I only just managed to get all my 4 teams to 80k power by moving units around. I've only been farming events and revivals though, no idea what else to do.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Kamihime still ranking high on DMM?
I was checking the wiki and there was a huge backlash over Amon's buffs/rebalances

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753358
Still top 3 on R-18.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753194
Opposite for me.

Almost all of my non-ticket blacks are niche or shit. And usually ugly hags.

On the plat side, I've been graced with three out of four elementalers, Totono, Saria, Uzume, Livre, Prim, Vivian, Valentine Rino, etc.

Beyond that, I've also got some cute bed waifus like Lilia, Rubinas, and Maple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753358
What did the devs do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753408
She got massive buffs.
Most important is her 25% DEF debuff going from single target B frame (same as Snipe) to AoE C frame.

Thanatos who had a C frame AoE 20% DEF debuff was a common recommended miracle ticket pick for dark to pair up with your soul using Snipe and Satan's own A frame debuff to cap it, and a lot of people seem to think Amon now has made her obsolete and want their money back for the miracle ticket they "wasted", are frustrated with the dev team, discouraged from making another purchase if the things they don't pick eventually get buffed to beat their actual picks, or just getting mad that this rebalance came after like 5 miracle tickets,

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752982
Was the Zenovia buff that big?
I ticketed Altair last time so I haven't used her too much since besides Total War stuff.

>>18753396
>Almost all of my non-ticket blacks are niche or shit. And usually ugly hags.
Your lack of appreciation for your girls is probably the reason behind your poor luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753422
Sound like usual business.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753427
If you have Altia, there's no need for Zenobia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753435
I figure that, I was just surprised that the skill change propelled her that far in strength apparently. It'd be nice to be able to use her more actively again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753435
Wasnt totono the fastest ramper according to some graph?

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>>18753442
Totono and Sabain are initially faster than Altia, doubly so with a rearguard tactician and when they're mincosted, it'll take about a minute or so of ramping for Altia to even out with Totono and Sabain. Jerome is also initially faster than Altia but it doesn't take long for Altia to overpower him.
The only reason Sabain isn't used often despite his high ramping value is because he's very expensive for a unit built for ramping, which is very important on tight maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752145
>You're fucked if you don't have good tanker
I'm fairly sure Prince's kingdom does not use oil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753542
Well, Prince takes all the pussy so it is not surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>Easter Balloon Vine

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753255
>Frederika
>good
Unless you're talking about her looks, not really.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, is Nutaku FKG finally getting its shit together? There's been so many improvements and QOL changes this maintenance (which arguably took them a whole fuckin' day).
Most notably IMO they revamped the special edition/costume knights, so that their status (like [Swimsuit]) displays as a title below instead of part of their name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753739
I take it back, they fucked it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753442
>>18753472
I'm honestly confused as fuck by that graph that keeps getting posted. Wouldn't Diera be faster? She costs 1 more UP to position, sure, but she doens't need to take 15 seconds to start generating UP. How can Totono be faster? They even have the same reuse time. Very confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753756
You have to also consider the initial investment for every ramp. Totono is very dirt cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753756
Outside of the one use SAW by Diera, her UP skill duration is three times as long as Totono's and only generates about 30% more UP overall meaning she's going to fall behind after the initial SAW burst.

[Anonymous No.]

Spoonfeed me like i'm 5 years old, how exactly do I play this game? And how do I make a good team? Because I have no idea what to do or what I should be doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753774
It plays like most tower defense games. One of the things to keep in mind is that girls heal a ton of hp when to "up" them in battle. Max upgrade unleashes a girl's ability except for healers and bells who have incremental buffs. It is sometimes important to time your ups properly if you don't have good healers. Ki management is also a core part of the game. You have one of the best girls in Forbidden City (that 7* fist girl) and her token increases natural ki generation. Renovating (the shiropro equivalent of awakening) lowers a units deployment cost and upgrading cost so it's something to keep in mind. Feeding dupes with unlock item slots and increase the level cap. Try not to defend warehouses for map you find difficult. You should probably try to build around Forbidden City. There are probably a lot other things, just ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753803
>You should probably try to build around Forbidden City.
And how would I do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753812
Basically raise girls that either complement her or shore up her shortcomings. For example, Hagi, your five star gunner's skill allows a unit to block enemies, something Forbidden City can't do herself. You have two archers, Sunpu, a strong cheap attacker with good range, and Okou, a girl who buffs the attack of girls in her range. Okou might seem like a good idea but in shiropro, %buffs don't stack but only the largest one takes effect. Forbidden City has a natural 40% self buff so it might be better to raise Sunpu instead, who is very good at killing flyers, something Forbidden City probably won't get to do often. Raising your 6* is also probably a good idea. Never used that 6* sword but I remember using Maruoka to cheese early map with that snake token.

[Anonymous No.]

what

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753836
What do bell characters do? Like that 5* Bell for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754000
Bells are like Aigis's demon summoners, they deal DoT to enemies in their range. That girl has an aura of -20 def per up to enemies. Renovating her to 6* adds 4% damage dealt to enemies. She also has a token that increases aspd. You can probably use her with Forbidden City.

[Anonymous No.]

I choose this cutie apple with my ticket, hope she's good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754220
She's cute and that's all that matters. We won't know if she's good until she gets rarity growth.

Speaking of which, the wikia has been updated to display stats and abilities of the new 6* forms. A list of upgradable characters can be found here:
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Rarity_Growth#Upgradable_characters

[Anonymous No.]

>>18752982
You forgot Lei-Mei
Shu Xian is straight up better but she's still notable for her enormous range on SAW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18753756
Honestly Diera is better. The graph is biased propaganda by being unnecessarily longer than you actually need a ramper. Diera is just straight up better at ramping when it matters.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone actually post the graph. The graph I remember showed Sabein being best followed by Diera.

[Anonymous No.]

Found the graph and Diera is first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754590
>team Peep wins
Excellent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754618
Team Chocolate is so much higher it transcended the graph.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754590
This graph excludes Sabein because he's still 19 at mincost even though he generates 20 for his ramp skill. This graph also excludes cooldown reduction from rearguard tacticians.

[Anonymous No.]

I just call him Sirbine

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754642
>excludes cooldown reduction from rearguard tacticians
Pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754660
Give 3 minutes and Totono will exceed Diera, yes.
Also, Altair does not benefit from rearguards, so even Jerome will outstrip her ramp by the 2nd usage.

[Anonymous No.]

How good is kurama again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18754804
The last discussion I read about her can be summarized as: her kit does not fit her class, Konoha does the tengu thing better.

[Anonymous No.]

Nutaku's spoiler banners reach new heights by posting bloom art that japanese players don't even have and had no idea was coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755047
Nice catch, it's good to know that the anon who wanted bloom art for Helenium is right on his money. This isn't a first for them though, they also spoiled Allium before we had any idea about her release (I think she wasn't even teased in NND broadcasts and the like, her H-scene on Nutaku's banners was literally the first time she appeared anywhere).

But my "favorite" Nutaku banner is the one they cribbed from this Pixiv artist, most likely without his consent. I mean, outright stealing art is bad enough, but they couldn't even put all the main characters together. What are Maple and Black Baccara doing here?

[Anonymous No.]

Who should I get for my 4th anniversary ticket, based on my blind run, mostly used team? I also got Kurama as a pity black just recently. >>18754804 and got a Cynthia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755492
Maple and Black Baccara are the resident shill characters on Nutaku due to their popularity among the mindless drones that inhabit the Nutaku servers.

I'm not exactly sure why they only bothered to put two of the four starters on the banner, and even less why they decided to crib a Pixiv illustration for shits and giggles, but I'm not surprised at all. You don't even get one of the 4* units for joining Nutaku anymore, so I guess they figured Burnet and Silver Orchid were enough.

(Incidentally, you're given a guaranteed Evening Primrose for joining Nutaku instead of the usual random selection of Burnet/Silver Orchid/Saintpaulia/Field Mustard. You also don't get the free random 5* that comes immediately afterwards, and as you can expect this absolutely wrecks the coherence of the early story. Not that it would've been coherent anyways, due to Nutaku's shit-tier translations.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755532
I'm guessing you tried to get Miyabi and got Kurama instead. Lapis is always a safe ticket pick but having many multi hit girls makes Miyabi just as tempting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755532
Miyabi would pair very well with all that physical dps. Could also look at a more dedicated tank like Cornelia or Mireille. Maybe Altair to replace Jerome?

[Anonymous No.]

Cool, got both golds in 1 pull.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755575
>Maybe Altair to replace Jerome?
I have Totono, just that she's not SAW'ed yet (4/5) Is Totono better than Altia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755542
>Maple and Black Baccara are super popular
Oh yeah, that makes sense. Samurai-type girls being popular with EN players is actually a pretty famous quirk, there were a bunch of comments to that effect over on the DMM side (especially after the EN popularity contest was topped by Black Baccara and Garden Peony).

The anon who posted that "Sangobana is a pure angel" comment (and the "SEX HER" reply) from years ago should also be glad, because that's another minor meme. Even that loli/otomo/pinkhair triad found its way to bbspink somehow, I'm pretty proud of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755589
For the most part, I'd say Alt is better. While they're fairly even as rampers, Altair with her revamped SAW has the stats to easily deal with early swarms of dangerous enemies, which are fairly prevalent in endgame content. Toto, while her tokens are extremely cost-efficient, both disables her own attacks and attracts enemy ranged, which can be dangerous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>18755542
Yeah, why would Nutaku give everyone ded Flower Knights.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Rinne's evasion buff not affect undead or this guy I was watching whacking Shu just lucky?

[Anonymous No.]

>>18756122
>>18756122
>>18756122