DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #2019

[Anonymous No.]

This is a Japanese language learning thread designed by and for those interested in traditional otaku media such as anime, manga, bara, visual novels, light novels, and Japanese video games.
If you have no interest in the above or want to request a translation, this is not the thread for you.

Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Old guide site below.
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Last thread: >>19957123

[Anonymous No.]

I'M FIRST BUT I CANT ACTUALLY POST ON 4CHAN RIGHT NOW FUCK MY LIFE

[Anonymous No.]

>reusing the picture

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder manga isn't reading

[Anonymous No.]

can someone explain potential form for a brainlet like me? How would 日本語を話せる differ from 日本語を話す

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969588
I fucked up, I meant
（私は）日本語が話せる
vs
日本語が話す

[Pitch Accent Advice from Duoli(...) No.]

>Hi! My advice is to concentrate on the pronunciation provided by Duo and not bother much about learning pitch. It is not taught in courses and does not figure in most dictionaries because it does not actually cause misunderstandings in context. Furthermore, pitch varies between prefectures, and an unaccented Japanese is perfectly fine for all purposes. Usually, only people like voice actors and news announcers would need to study it for their work.

[Anonymous No.]

When Matt announced that he considered Patreon I was so happy as his viewer - more content from Matt, he deserves some money for his hard work right! Many people thought the same...
しかし, he now makes content for people who PAY, he doesn't give a single fuck about all the viewers who were with him since day 1 if they don't PAY. He basically ignored the biggest chunk of his fanbase for monetary profit. He's giving people some scraps trying to milk them to the core, he should be making videos 24/7 with such support and no single responsibility in his life.

Look how much content he releases, I thought being a YouTuber + having Patreon = a lot of compelling 'nitty-gritty' content, yet he releases like 1-3 videos per month. his Patrons don't get a lot more either. He gave people advice and backed away from it, but the review of said advice is only available to his biggest fans i.e. those who pay. Rest of his supporters didn't get shit. You can't even TALK to him without paying.

Damn you Matt you fucking jew, I thought you said you didn't need money because you were from affluent family, your meditation doesn't help you much if you still haven't found the profit in being poor but humble.

[Anonymous No.]

可愛いアニメ娘が顔に座って欲しい

[Anonymous No.]

>hurr durr he scams his patrons
he's actually working harder than any of you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969519
What are some good audiobooks for a beginner level?

I wanna go all in with the 18h of immersion stuff. I need some books that I can just have on in the bg that aren't loaded with advanced vocab and grammar, what do you recommend?

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>>19969588
One is causative, ie. one thing is causing the event to happen or is granting permission. The other is just stative, ie, you're doing the action.

[Anonymous No.]

>get a stupid questions
>point out to Tae Kim's grammar guide's page with an answer

is this the redpilled way of teaching newfags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969627
extract audio from peppa pig yt channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCldXjuJ7Qg8wTNktOnVXkGw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969636
that make sense, thanks anon.

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>>19969640
You need an English grammar guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969588
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/potential
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/causepass

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>>19969648
treat me as an average Jap who doesn's speak proper English and you'll be fine

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>>19969646
Ok, just an fyi. I'm literally a beginner, probably lower level than you (still doing RTK and halfway through Tae Kim), I just highlighted the words with Rikai-chan, and read the descriptions. So I recommend you either start using Rikaichan/Yomichan to help you with this sort of stuff, or that you cross-reference what I said with someone more knowledgable.

Probably both.

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

とおくへいきたい

[Anonymous No.]

someone who hasn't finished Tae Kim shouldn't be asking questions here nor should he start reading stuff in Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969670
ぼくはげんき

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969679
世界の果てに行こう

二人で

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969611
リア＞アニメ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969644
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCldXjuJ7Qg8wTNktOnVXkGw
I was gonna scoff at the idea, but after giving a quick listen to some of them, and realizing that I can understand a good chunk of it, I humbled myself and said "fuck it."

So here we go. Thanks anon.

After that, what would be good? Just throwing myself at any audiobook in the Cornucopia?

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>>19969695
Can anybody explain whats the difference between 行きましょう and 行こう to me?

[Anonymous No.]

どうして男の人は日本語を習うの大変好きだけど、女の人は韓国を習うの方が日本語よりもっともっと好き？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969703
Why is this pig family so cute

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>>19969710
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/desire#Making_a_motion_to_do_something_using_the_volitional_form_casual
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/desire#Making_a_motion_to_do_something_using_the_volitional_form_polite

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969713
Are you pretending to be nuke with that japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969701
大間違う

[Anonymous No.]

i dont think nuke chan is even capable of producing that much of a car wreck

[Anonymous No.]

Setting my browser to Japanese and simply looking at view counts and subscriber counts on YouTube has really helped me with learning how the numbers work in Japanese and what they equate to in English.

Give it a try, 皆.

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>>19969718
oh, so 行きましょう is just a polite form of inviting someone to go somwhere, and 行こう is more casual?

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>>19969735
>i dont think nuke chan is even capable of producing that much of a car wreck
wait for his interracial kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969726
それはこっちのセリフだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969742
>inviting someone to
That's not what the volitional form does, but yes, 行きましょう is just a more formal way of saying 行こう.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969751
I thought the volitional form was only for making suggestions, is that wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

don't spoonfeed that retard

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969519
I just restarted my kanji deck (all in one kanji) since I want to start from the beginning but now it's showing cards twice (recognize and recall) instead of being a single card. How do I fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969748
いや、コッチのセリフだ

[Anonymous No.]

People incapable of doing their own research should just give up. Parasites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969695
じゃあ

げつめんりょこう

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969771
Select the deck, then click browse then go to current deck and then select cards from there you can delete all the cards tagged with either recognition or recall

[Anonymous No.]

dont worry people incapable will ultimately give up

its the law of the jungle

focus on the nihongo dreams that can be saved

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969781
Would you say people coming to this thread and asking questions not a form of research then?

[Anonymous No.]

それよりさ、２Dお尻について話しましょう

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969786
Thanks, but can you merge them? I clearly remember having cards once but they would show up as either recognition or recall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969710
行こうは

行きましょうより

フレンドリー

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969799
Thanks bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969785
宇宙船作ろう

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th-AqMvvBzE

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969793
I never tried merging two decks so i wouldn't know, but i did start with the one you are doing and edited/added cards as needed.

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>>19969812
うちゅうりょこうといえば

にほんでゆうめいなのはこっちだとおもう
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo

[Anonymous No.]

>捏ねる
>to argue for argument's sake
what does it mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969762
Yes. You can use the volitional form in reference to yourself, even. See よう２ in:
https://core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/entries/907.htm

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969818
はなひげっ

[Anonymous No.]

someone with superior doctoring skills do something with this

[Anonymous No.]

you should just read shokomeza it was actually a enjoyable read

[Anonymous No.]

good to know cause its actually on my to read list

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969847
殿下 said it was bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969789
>２D
お断りします

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969858
idk who that is but if you have the wrong expectations going in because its romeo you deserve to writhe in your discontent

[Anonymous No.]

I read a magazine interview that I thought was a bit above my understanding but I did pretty well. Can I ask one question and check another thing?

個人的にボイスで好きなのが リンですね。女性の好みもあるけど（笑）

The second sentence is confusing me. Is he saying he has a woman's taste or is he joking that he liked a female VA?

採用理由は僕の曲“ひと耳惚れ”ですね．いつか彼女の声をあててほしいと思っていたんです。

Is he saying that when he heard her sing, it was like 'love at first listen'? Then he says he hoped she'd consider the voice role?

Thanks for the help!

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>>19969599
>native english speakers literally cant speak any other language without sounding like they ve got mouth full of pasta

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>>19969871
This is a reddit repost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969822
Very interesting, thanks anon.

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>>19969871

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>>19969781
Sometimes they annoy me, particularly when I help them once and/or refer them to a resource that could answer their questions like tae kim, but they ask followups that could have already been answered if they heeded my advice. Other times I feel generous.

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>>19969879
>>19969886
I was in a good mood after making it through a four page magazine interview with only two questions, but fuck me I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969893
yeah unfortunately fuck you

no hard feelings

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969820
esl? it means to argue because you want to argue and not because you care about what you're arguing about

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969893
yes fuck you go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969879
How do you know? Do you browse the reditto?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969891
you can tell a man how to fish but it's up to them to want to learn

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969905
>>19969909
Out of curiosity, do you guys actually know the answers or do you just enjoy shitting on people who have nowhere to turn to for Japanese help and do all their own studying and researching, but once in a while would just like some clarification from an actual human being?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969820
屁理屈するという意味だ

[Anonymous No.]

やっぱしよつばとまかったか？
what the hell とまかった means?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969920
did you misquote that first one because that was an answer
people usually don't know the answer but there is some truth in that you should stop worrying about it and move forward

[Anonymous No.]

satania chan fucken owns ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969935
It isn't a misquote, someone who worked on the show was talking about how impressive it was for a VA to sound more adult-like in the sequel, then this guy just butted in with "Btw my personal favourite is Rin", then his justification following it. It's partially why I'm so interested in knowing what his justification is, it seemed like such an awkward insert in the interview.

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>>19969920
Welcome to nu-djt which is basically a bunch of dekinai posing as fluent (lowercase posters), beginners (you) and the occasional cool guy (me)

[Anonymous No.]

welcome to djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969955
i don't pose as fluent i put this in every third post
i don't know japanese but

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969955
i can talk to you in japanese right now if you want

i havent immersed for this week so i wont sound as good as usual but

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969965
まあ、一番強いペラペラ外人になった。ありがとう、マット殿。

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone made a fork of Rikaichamp with Anki support yet?

[Anonymous No.]

わたしはゲイになった

ありがと お世話になったav女優さん

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

nice self own?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970021
now say that again but in japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>とか何とか言っちゃって　
>ホントは４継やりたいんでしょ

you seem concerned, but what you really want is to run 4-by-100, right?

what makes the "concerned"?

[Anonymous No.]

バカバカしい人と会話したくない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970048
しゃきっとしろ

ぼけなす！

[Anonymous No.]

yoshi time for reading

[Anonymous No.]

小さいbrained人なら無視 : )

[Anonymous No.]

Show me a VN with better prose

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970067
which one is this

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970069
さよならを教えて

[Anonymous No.]

how cute he's reading his third VN

[Anonymous No.]

thanks for the jikoshoukai anchan

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970111
Even though you cannot see this post, know that I checked your post.

[Anonymous No.]

i just dont wnana get aids for one fuckin day

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969933
やっぱり

よつば

うまかったか？

こうじゃない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970067

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970125
I think you won.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970115
そうはありえない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970125
cc is only good because its easy for casual babs to read

the ones with good prose are the ones that are so discombobulated and dense that they are actually just not fun at all to read and youd rather die than continue

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970146
Muramasa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969933
やっぱし　よつばと　まかったか？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969982
RikaiRebuilt
https://forum.koohii.com/thread-15119.html

I haven't used it yet, but if I ever update Firefox and I can't use Rikaisama anymore, I'll try it.

[Anonymous No.]

Where the fuck can you find japanese people to chat with on Line

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970146
whats the gravitys rainbow of visual novels

[Anonymous No.]

have you tried line its a good platform to chat with japanese folks from japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970133
よくみて

やっぱしよつば

うまかったか

だよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970177
Literally the game he posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970177
https://vndb.org/v9093

[Anonymous No.]

sweaty wheelchair ass and flyin planes my favorite

[Anonymous No.]

both of those are translated though so they cant be any good

[Anonymous No.]

Saihate no Ima is not translated and will never be.

[Anonymous No.]

o i thought you were referring to cc ok then well whats the infinite jest of vns

[Anonymous No.]

not even ghs is crazy enough to attempt ima and thats saying something

btw >>19970146 and >>19970070 are the same character

good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970227
>btw >>19970146 and >>19970070 are the same character
do i have to read romeos works in release order to fully appreciate them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970218
素晴らしき日々

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>>19970236
heres a lil mind blower for the uninitiated

its called rewrite for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

素晴らしき日マ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970115
yes, you are right. I have no idea how I thought that u was a to. I should go to bed probably.. Thanks a lot anon.

[Anonymous No.]

okay so whats the divine comedy of vns

>>19970240
did he not like his writing in the first one or something

[Anonymous No.]

I have never read a vn

[Anonymous No.]

i suspect its that ima reached no one due to romeo quite literally throwing the book at the reader constantly

rewrite has a fuckin phone gacha game

seems like it worked out

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970278
>ima reached no one
i just havent read it yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970276
No one has, because they're games.

[Anonymous No.]

many sacrifices were made but it was a necessary evil to convey the 1 important message that still didnt make it through lol

truly epic how that all worked out

[Anonymous No.]

素晴らしき日々は癌である

[Anonymous No.]

貴様は俺について何を言った？俺はからネイビーシールスにクラスのトップで終えて、多いアルカイダの秘密レイドに参加された、３００確認キル以上をある。俺はゲリラ戦で訓練されて、全部のアメリカの軍隊のトップ狙撃兵です。お前は俺のターゲットのほかが何もない。俺はお前をかつて地球上にまだ見てなかったことの精度で拭き消す、俺の言葉を覚えて。お前は俺にクソを話して、結果がないで逃げられることを思う？再思う、ボケ。俺らが話していろうに、俺はアメリカ中のスパイの俺の秘密のネットワークを連絡している、今はお前のＩＰにトレースされるので嵐の準備をする、うじ虫。これ哀れなことをお前の人生と呼ぶことを払拭する嵐。お前はもう死んでいる、キッドー。俺はどこでも、いつでもにあって、俺も空拳で七百方法以上でお前を殺せる。 俺は丸腰コンバットに訓練するだけでなく、全部アメリカ海兵隊のアーセナルのアクセスをあって、お前の哀れなお尻を大陸の面に拭き消すためにこれを全く利用して、ちくしょう。お前はお前の「利口な」コメントに何を生じられることを知ると、ひょっと言われなかったでしょう。もできないで、しなかった、今は値段を支払う、ボケ。俺は怒りをお前の体中にウンコして、お前がそれに溺れられる。お前はもう死んでいる、キッドー。

[Anonymous No.]

特にaids

[Anonymous No.]

すごいaids出たわね

[Anonymous No.]

fucking hell, today's anki took a full hour because every single word is the fucking same business-related shit
at 920 words in, should i just go read? i don't want to waste time hating everything and flipping out as i get 練習 wrong for the 80th time

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>>19970375
lmao just press the delete and move on.

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>>19970278
probably the biggest kagari waifuist here, the gacha game sucks dont play it fuck off
generally, all outside of the original VN sucks (although I am learning Japanese so I can understand Cradle's Tale better) because they completely fucked up kagari's character by making it all moe
so I shall stay by the original

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>>19970375
why are you not reading already

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>>19970375
are you in the業 section part of core? it fucking sucked yea. I'm 1300-1400 in now and its much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970393
romeo hates your kind the most and the ways in which he completely destroys you will forever be indecipherable to your 2 bit brain

this is just objectively speaking i have no opinion on the matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970424
this is perhaps the saddest conversation in /djt/ history.

[Anonymous No.]

sadness and happiness are one and the same

[Anonymous No.]

From 73% retention yesterday to 88% today. Anki is a rollercoaster of disappointments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970415
yep, at 900 and it's just like 30 words ending or starting witch characters or characters which have the same kind of sound

>>19970413
to prevent more of these headaches as I don't understand everything, as I'm not even close to far enough into grammar yet

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>>19970439
I really don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970375
Jesus fuck this is why core decks are such a fucking time waste.
Create your own mining deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970424
i bought licensed kagari merch and will buy rewrite+ when it's on steam, i'm sure he'll be plenty happy
i'll just believe whatever I want to, after all the Kagari in my heart is not necessarily bound to all "official" works (and i'm pretty sure this is how it is for everyone) and i'll just love her unconditionally, even if that means straying from the moe path the writers are taking

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>>19970375
i don't really get your issue. why not just suspend those cards? i'm using vncore but if i were doing core2k that's what i'd do.

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>>19970462
i mean i respect that a lot personally but you shouldnt forget that the way she manifests to you should be different than the one you see in the story which leaves you with quite a dilemma

whose kagali do you love yours or kotaros

thinking emoji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970496
I suppose I love my Kagari then, if there must be a distinct line between the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970513
good answer

then you shouldnt have a problem with what kotaro does with his kagali : )

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>>19970522
mm, i never really had a problem where I envy Kotarou or whatnot, as I see him basically as a proxy of me when I'm playing... so that wasn't an issue for me
the issue for me is rather the drastic way Key changed Kagari, so I'll just stick to the Kagari I love, and is inside of me, no matter what any company, any person, or any entity does or tells me

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>>19970442
language is acquired, grammar is acquired, vocabulary is acquired, get out of your comfort zone and go read and listen if you want to know japanese
studying for months wont make it any less of a headache when you don't actually have any japanese knowledge internalized, a bunch of memorized bits of information are less valuable than you think

[Anonymous No.]

rote memorization with anki is faster than reading in the beginning

source: been my experience the past several weeks. only word i remembered recently due to reading alone is 鏡 which is strange because it's not a very useful word. in that same amount of time i've reviewed dozens of super common words in anki that make me notice them more while reading and vice versa. if i'm not reviewing them in anki, chances are i aint remembering them.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

the memorization comes from 10000 hours of anime

youll be surprised what you remembered when you didnt even try come reading time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970600
anki helps in the beginning but anki is a supplement, if you have 900 words in anki already and you're not consuming japanese you're fucking up

[Anonymous No.]

Could someone tell what's the kanji in circle please? I tried to use the IME pad but it was useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970675
瓶

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970675
水瓶
use google translate handwriting input to draw kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970681
>>19970682
Thank you anons.

[Anonymous No.]

this is better than google at reading your bad attempts to draw chinese houses

https://dict.naver.com/linedict/zhendict/dict.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970605
duolingo calm down

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970155
I tried installing it and immediately after Firefox became extremely laggy even though the add-on wasn't even turned on. As soon as I uninstalled it, Firefox went back to normal. What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969670
genki

[Anonymous No.]

I stopped core and started a mining deck. But I'm still riding off the core reviews.
Should I just forget about core and delete it or should I at least mature all the remaining learnt cards first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970828
forget it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970828
depends how deep are you, I would just keep doing them, after a while it gonna go down to like 10 reviews and take like 2 minutes to do.

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>>19969613
>matt makes 4k per month just on patreon
>releases 1 shit tier video per month
>never actually teaches anything in it
>autism tier explanations of meaningless info
fuck out of here muttcuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970874
you gotta pay for the high-end videos like 一番強い外人になりたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970904
ハハハハハ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970920
It's funny because it actually looks like people clapping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970991
888

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit look at these

[Anonymous No.]

大きすぎ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971023
>888
こちらで彼のその意味を何でしたか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971070
完璧

[Anonymous No.]

>>19970874
that dude made a joke, he wasn't serious
you'd know if you weren't autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971097
hachihachihachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971115
I was about 99% sure he was too, but I was happy to risk the 1% to shit on 一番強い様

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971097
パチパチパチ

clapすること

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971148
ああ、わかった、ども

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971125
you can shit on him but it's inevitable that he'll hit $5k on Patreon and make 1 video a month not from the USA, but Japan
I also feel that his channel may grow tremendously with all the MIA stuff, since it could have an appeal to normies who want to learn languages - and MIA will try to become very flexible to cater to every language

in summary I think he might be one of the biggest youtubers in next years if he doesn't fuck this up

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>>19971163
shoo shoo mattjew

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971163
Truly we live in a godless world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971163
Man there has to be a way to stop him.. but his followers are so devote. Not realizing he stole all of his methods and isn't that great himself.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there so many autists here spamming about their favorite eceleb every day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971167
as one of my scifi animes would say we are in the timeline that god abandoned

[Anonymous No.]

same reason you post that question every day were just monkeys on typewriters

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971183
posting about ecelebs in this thread should be made a bannable offense

[Anonymous No.]

something many of you don't get is that for all of us shitposting here is knowingly wasting out time not learning japanese, but for a mattdrone they can confidently believe that they are passively immersing in japanese while shitposting and fluency is on its way, so they can shitpost for hours on end without a single regret

[Anonymous No.]

where do I get raw 1990s-2000s variety shows from? that's a form of entertainment that I enjoy the most, but those fucking subbing groups hardsubbed that shit, I can't find originals because those troglodytes didn't save them up and archive

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971197
それを本当だ、勉強に行くのいる
じゃまたあとで

[Anonymous No.]

As of this posting (Mar 26, 2018), I have neither native level listening fluency nor reading literacy. "So why the hell are you teaching people Japanese?" should be a common, and reasonable retort. I answer that hypothetical critical person with "I'm not teaching Japanese, I'm teaching people how to self-study Japanese. Along with that, employ a technique that will develop native listening fluency at a much faster pace than studying or raw immersion alone."

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971233
good roleplaying but you forgot that mattdrones don't output either

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971242
>can't read japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971248
good roleplaying but you forgot that djt can't read japanese either

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971228
i mean that's 20$ an hour jp lessons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971200
hate to tell you but the further we go in this era the further away that one becomes

all that stuffs gone and is never coming back

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971271
i blame the nips for not saving that up and bending under their hypercapitalistic government

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971263
What could Nuke possible teach you in 4 hours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971291
youd have better luck asking for someones old vhs recordings that they might have except gaining access to such people on the internet is likely impossible

>>19971292
proper deadlift technique

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971180
>Not realizing he stole all of his methods
you realize he's pretty vocal about learning most of what he knows from krashen, antimoon, and ajatt right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971327
he's also pretty vocal about how his secret underground discord crew is running the numbers on new "original" methods as we speak
he was more honest before he started making money

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971379
>is running the numbers on new "original" methods
what are his members doing that is original and new and when did he claim that they're doing something original and new? are you talking about when he said his members are experimenting with doing things their own way after he realized his rtk advice was bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971385
i'm talking about when he explained that all of the unnecessary bullshit he tacked onto krashen wasn't working so his buddies were helping him come up with a new list of unnecessary bullshit to replace it which is now available and paywalled

[Anonymous No.]

matts too busy to make more vids because hes getting his hole dilated by toilet head nightly

[Anonymous No.]

>思わぬ拾い物

What does it mean exactly? That I unexpectedly found something that I should/must keep/buy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971442
g o oooooooo oo o o o oo o o oohttps://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E6%80%9D%E3%82%8F%E3%81%AC%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E7%89%A9 oooooooo g elelellelelel

https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E6%80%9D%E3%82%8F%E3%81%AC%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E7%89%A9
https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E6%80%9D%E3%82%8F%E3%81%AC%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E7%89%A9
https://thesaurus.webliohttps://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E6%80%9D%E3%82%8F%E3%81%AC%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E7%89%A9jp/content/%E6%80%9D%E3%82%8F%E3%81%AC%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E7%89%A9

https://thesaurus.weblio.jp/content/%E6%80%9D%E3%82%8F%E3%81%AC%E6%8B%BE%E3%81%84%E7%89%A9
leleleleleeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

tl for that would be "epic steal ftw"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971163
>I also feel that his channel may grow tremendously with all the MIA stuff, since it could have an appeal to normies who want to learn languages - and MIA will try to become very flexible to cater to every language
>in summary I think he might be one of the biggest youtubers in next years if he doesn't fuck this up
I feel kind of cruel saying it, but Matt just doesn't have the right personality for this to be realistic. Assburgers like Matt simply aren't popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>started AJATT meme back in late March thinking I'd get "really fucking good™" in the most efficient way possible
>6 months later of daily reps, sentence mining, and full immersion, and I am nowhere near becoming fluent in Japanese

The realization came when I went to dinner this previous Tuesday with a relative, my mom's cousin, who had lived throughout Asia for most of her life, including Japan, as a diplomat. My mom told her I'd been studying the language which prompted her to try and talk to me in Japanese. I looked like a complete tool not being able to string together two sentences of conversational Japanese. And to make things worse, whatever I did say, broken as it may have been, came out of me in the thickest accent imaginable. I kept looking at my dad out of nervousness as I struggled, and the look he made as he sipped his beer in silence said it all. Between the awkwardness, and my mom's cousin trying to be a good sport about the whole thing, I felt completely humiliated.

It was a real eye opener for me. I think i'm done with memes. At this point I might as well try Genki, or some other shit that delivers. It's weird too because I have gone through RTK and can garner the meaning of pretty much most Japanese text, but now I find that it's all useless because I can't put any of that into practice. I apologize for the long post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971432
lol, he's helping him spend them patreon bucks on some coke. Toilet head sounds gacked out like he's coming off of some powder. Then when questioned about there sexuality pic related lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971486
its not cruel he sucks and is mostly a fraud

>>19971488
your big mistake was just not being honest that you can understand roughly some shit but you dont speak to anybody so talking is impossible (無理) and then your biggest mistake is not asking to learn anything you can from her

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
>I think i'm done with memes. At this point I might as well try Genki, or some other shit that delivers.
comedy gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
that's what happens when you tell people you're learning a language
>At this point I might as well try Genki, or some other shit that delivers.
your eyes haven't been opened

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
It's not surprising if you've never practiced output.
How much can you understand though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971495
my minds starting to write a yaoi doujin i do not want and it involves them talking to each other in japanese lmao this is the worst

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/9jhx5p/why_is_the_djt_not_talked_about_more_often_the/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
>thought he would get fluent in japanese
>in 6 months
you fkn wot m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
the thing people dont really understand nowadays is that RTK (Remembering the Kanji for those who are not initiated) is a book that isnt meant to teach people japanese or japanese writing but an aide for remembering it. the problem is people assume it is a Kanji reference book or a self-learning book. its purpose is to help you not forget the Kanji you have already learned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971523
Sadly this guy will end up on matts patreon. He seems like a good kid too.

[Anonymous No.]

problem with rtk is you encode kanji data into english words and have to decode and encode back and forth which pretty much permanently cripples your japanese

one of you 下僕s post that vid of the rtk kid in japan you know the one it starts with dramatic music and throwing the rtk book up on a desk

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971449
what vocabulary do i need to do searches for stuff like this without having to ask djt again?

for example i think 区別 is one

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971546
thing is that reddit post is most likely a samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971549
I tried rtk and I tried memorizing words and it takes me 10 times as long to memorize a word without knowing the kanji. For me rtk to vocab is the only way. I can forget english words later.

[Anonymous No.]

How have people here still not learned to spot reddit pasta by now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971523
Anti-piracy fags confirmed for leddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
It's been 6 months and you haven't yet practiced output. What in the world makes you think that it's not working?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971566
have you ever considered you dont have to look at a new word and force yourself to memorize it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971562
i literally just dropped it into google my dude that pretty much works for any surface level explanation of grammar and vocab
once you get good you can ask shit about nuance and what not on chiebukuro
also have this https://yizhizhai.wordpress.com/2012/12/13/a-quicker-way-to-filter-google-search-results-by-language/

[Anonymous No.]

how does djt feel about the nebulousness of the legality of our cornucopia of resources

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971582
He's trying to get the most gaijin accent ever

[Anonymous No.]

i think youre all a bunch of bloody thieves who dont appreciate shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971582
so he can learn 鏡 while forgetting basic shit like つもり？ lol fuck that.

[Anonymous No.]

i mean you wouldnt download a kuruma

[Anonymous No.]

id pirate a copy of your consciousnesses upload it into a sex doll and shit in its mouth if i could

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971592
So?

[Anonymous No.]

shoo shoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971605
have you tried just shitting in your own mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971592
i could stop being a neet so i could pay for shit but then i wouldn't learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwWYu7SGRg

kaufmann once again saying monolingual doesn't matter. who's right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971647
monolingual doesnt matter if youre getting enough of the target language
see literally every heritage speaker

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971647

[Anonymous No.]

The 2k core with sentences, audio, kanji, vocab all in one is probably the greatest source of japanese in existence. Regardless of whatever else you do, make sure you do that. It's helped tremendously with my pronounciation, listening, vocab, etc, etc. Pure. gold.

[Anonymous No.]

i do vncore with 2 hours of reading and 2 hours of listening so i find core2k's sentences and audio superfluous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971692
link me

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971677
refrain from making assumptions about the efficacy of your learning methods until your vocabulary is greater than 2000 words

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971647
monolingual isnt a thing you always do or you always dont

theres times when you should be using only japanese but that doesnt have to be all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971692
Is it this 2k core? Because I tried another core2k and it was shit, but this one is actually dope.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I being retarded if I purposely undo if I get a card wrong in anki instead of hitting again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971693
https://mega.nz/#!f4UmEY5D!E7Ud3TZPhdLazDWktsj9NWIDXaItXRjAdKVBSCogoFc

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971738
someone scan this is it a virus

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971737
イェス

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971743
idk i searched for it in the archive because someone posted it previously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971748
there's a version on the cor with typo fixes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971752
oh didn't know that. deleted my post.

[Anonymous No.]

is vncore truly the best thing since krashen

[Anonymous No.]

idk how good or bad it is but the word list itself is def better than core 2k/6k and it's good that it stops at 1000ish instead of like 2k or 6k because that's when you need to either start mining or drop anki

sentences and voices would be nice but aren't actually that important in the grand scheme of things unless you're ankidroning

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971762
it might be awful. i'm a beginner so i don't know shit. but i like that it's straight up frequency and only has 1250 words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971766
>sentences and voices
dogen said that's the most important thing in the beginning because it will help you read in their actualy speach patterns, he says audio in general on repeat is much greater than anything writen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971782
>straight up frequency
based on some VNs*
and the first thing i'm reading is a VN so that works out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971786
you get that from input, not anki.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, /djt/
I simply don't understand the fucking が particle. Is there ANY resource that explains it for complete retards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971794
no
no one can explain it
ignore ga until youve finished learning the language
then take everything you know how to say and subtract what you dont know how to say from it and bam
youve got the definition of ga

[Anonymous No.]

read tae kim and replace は and が with the mini-phrases tae kim uses for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971791
Yea but audio sentences + writing/vocab in anki, done like it is in this 2k I'm doing is really really good.

[Anonymous No.]

が is just the things that arent は unless theres a reason for it to be one of the other crazy particles lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971794
consume more content, you will get the feel. tae kim does OK job, so doesn't Genki ( Chapter 8 i think)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971804
refrain from making assumptions about the efficacy of your learning methods until your vocabulary is greater than 2000 words

[Anonymous No.]

dont think just feel be like water my friend

[Anonymous No.]

i dont wanna evaporate

[Anonymous No.]

yeah but its soon going to winter and youll be ice cold cj

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_T4eObNXg
also video one of the series

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971794
Haaha I remember those days. Ga is fkn easy. You won't truly understand it till you know the language better but just think of it like this.. When you say a sentence every part of the sentence is equal usually, but when you want to empasize something like: Assume there are 5 watches at a store, but you and the person you are talking to know there is a particular watch you wanted. Instead of saying "I bought A watch" (は）you could say "I bought THEE watch." (が)
tl;dr its for emphasizing
We do it in english but usually by stressing, they use a particle instead

[Anonymous No.]

>Takes 3 months to get to 2k Vocab
>Average jap college student knows 40k

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971828
Can you do me a favor and re-record the text in this with your voice and upload it to vocaroo?
I just can't...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971840
no i have a gay voice. but all its videos have subtitles so just mute it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971828
>black car
>white car
i thought the apartheid is over

[Anonymous No.]

you guys are actually gay if you dont like her voice like legit no goon shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971845
>i have a gay voice
OwO

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971847
>her
It's a dude trying to talk high pitched with audio processing and speech impediment

[Anonymous No.]

its a her in my kokolo and thats all that matters fuck you and your sabetsu down with abe

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971233
お前の日本語は上手いですね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
Honest question: Did you understand what she said? If so, then that's a win. You don't want to sacrifice understanding great Japanese just so you can spit out shitty Japanese lines (and not even understand the replies).

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971834
>average Japanese college student has spent their whole life with the language and has had enough time to learn every word that matters, and tons that don't matter too.

Wow it's fucking nothing

[Anonymous No.]

I started learning japanese today and what a fucking retarded writing system they have. Syllabery is shit and Chinese characters are mega shit. Now they just combine these two worst scripts to form the ultimate brainlet writing system. I have so much to complain about this shit but i guess that will do nothing but take away from my studying time so i got no choice but to hold nose and trudge through this stinky language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972016
i've been learning for 3 months and i've embraced kanji but whenever i point out how stupid and garbage it is i'm accused of not learning them for some reason. i don't know why some people are so emotionally invested in the inefficiency of having to learn hundreds of different shapes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
You've fallen into a trap like most people on the internet who think there is a /get rich quick/ scheme with language. The only way to truly learn Japanese is by using Japanese. Putting on 8 hours of noise each day or sentence mining randomly and all that nonsense is not going to help you learn Japanese. The quickest and best way to learn the language is to NEED to learn it. It's by using it. This is why living in Japan is very useful for people learning it. Immersion is thrown around a lot misguidedly by people without thought. However, I can't talk much about AJATT and such methods because I've never really followed them, but what is hard and true is that if you have a need for a language you're going to have an easier time assimilating it. Most of us here are really only interested in Japanese because of manga and visual novels. People like us have no real immediate NEED for real Japanese. Which makes me think you're in the same boat since you're here among us. If you want to escape that then you may want to learn to actually speak the language and make that a priority. Whatever works you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972016
>Because of this mixture of scripts, in addition to a large inventory of kanji characters, the Japanese writing system is often considered to be the most complicated in use anywhere in the world.[1][2]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972034
i'll prove you wrong. i don't need japanese but i'll reach n2 by next september with 4 hours of daily immersion even though i don't NEED japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972030
Yeah true this. I am trying my best to embrace this shit just like how i embraced mind numbing retardation in English. Not just kanji, even kana is fucking shit for me as my native language is abugida(which is same as syllabery but graphemes are related to one another based on vowel or constant sound in it rather than having unique glyph for each syllabel). On the other hand, kanji is just a nightmare for me now, i hope i get over my kanjiphobia soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972050
>my native language is abugida(which is same as syllabery but graphemes are related to one another based on vowel or constant sound in it rather than having unique glyph for each syllabel).
How does that look in practice? Can you post some examples?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972060
Look pic related. Unlike かきくけこ which have nothing common in them, pic related has a shape common between all symbols which is supposed to show that all these symbols have same k consonant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972096
Fuck, forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972102
THE PATRIOTS

[Anonymous No.]

izanagi deliberately made japanese the way it is to keep dirty western pigs from truly appreciating the beauty of eastern pornography

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

whats in the closet

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking get the fuck out of this thread and actually learn some Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

you first

[Anonymous No.]

眠い

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972213
おきてからなにをするのか

かいてからねよう

[Anonymous No.]

寝い

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971488
this is what you get for telling people youre learning japanese before you are fluent

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972030
>emotionally invested in the inefficiency
maybe some are invested, i just try to focus on the positive
you want to learn it so you might as well try to enjoy it, と思う

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972030
Pointing out how stupid Kanji are doesn't solve anything. Go learn a "logical" "easier" language if you're gonna whine at the 3 month mark.

[Anonymous No.]

Another day of reading manga, find rare unknown kanji, guess for 30 mins while reading then next day it is in my new words. Why does this keep happening?

Also I have 140 new words left on core6k, why haven't I seen おめでとう yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972554
>guess for 30 mins
>Also I have 140 new words left on core6k
have you learned what a 辞典 is yet

[Anonymous No.]

how much pepper pig do I have to watch to become fluent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972030
You are just an entitled little shit throwing tantrums when facing the smallest amount of complexity. If you can't appreciate the process then why even try learning in the first place. You should just give up a go back to your safe space already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972554
Cool story bro but manga isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

Man when will Matt release the second part of his Anki settings video? I'd like to start using Anki already but I'm afraid I'll permanently cripple myself by using the wrong settings

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972629
anki is the wrong settings but it can still help

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972569

I wouldn't want to ruin my immersion now would I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972680
>manga
>immersion

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question about japan's medical system for a story. I don't know where to ask so here I am.

Are medical costs reimbursed/taken care of the same way they are in most of the EU, or is more like the american system where you literally pay for everything? A lot of characters have that cliché sick sister they have to take care of, but I'm not sure about it.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm reading something about a protagonist who basically steals all his weapons from other people. In the sentence: '扱いが難しそうな武器を軽々と振り回して使いこなす主人公は、やはりずば抜けた戦闘センスの持ち主?', does the second part of the sentence refer to 主人公 or the person who previously owned the weapon? The fact that ずば抜けた is in the past tense is throwing me off. Thanks anyone who wants to deal with my pedantry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972784
It refers to the 主人公

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972784
>やはりずば抜けた戦闘センスの持ち主?'

What part of this DOESN'T seem like it's alluding to the 主人公? Do you think the guys whose weapons he steals possessed バツグンの戦闘センス？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972816
Thank you.

>>19972830
I was pretty confident it was referring to the protagonist, but I've never come across ずば抜けた before and it being in past tense threw me off as the sentences beforehand were talking about weapons' previous owners. Never hurts to check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972784
センスはわせいえいご？

えいごにするとpotentialだとおもう

[Anonymous No.]

ずば抜けたは

extraordinaryあたりなのはわかる

せんとうはtactics

むずかしいなあ

[Anonymous No.]

>after 1 month of meditation, 2 months of studying how to learn Japanese, finally finished with Remembering the Kana after just 3 months (99% retention rate in Anki)
>decide to play my first VN confident I'm gonna understand a nice amount of it
>can't even read the title because it's in Kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972999
Why would you be confident you can understand a nice amount of Japanese when you've never learned Japanese before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972999
> finally finished with Remembering the Kana
> he fell for it

[Anonymous No.]

How would you translate 限界オタク into English?

I kinda get the meaning that it's sort of the next stage of キモヲタ, that it's such an offputting excessive otaku that you just can't hold back anymore and scream "holy christ look at that guy"

But what would be a fitting term in English? I've been considering marginal otaku or fringe otaku, but I'm not sure either really gets the point across, that it's sort of a disrespectful channer-style term for being way too nerdy about something.

Unless yahoo answers is fucking with me and its meaning is simpler than that, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973113
Autismo 9000.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973113

??? I've only ever seen 限界 used like that to describe something TO THE MAX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q3z_OCA1Uk

ひっさつ！ひっさつ！限界パワーだ　ひゃくれつパンチ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973113
Peak otaku? Apex otaku?

[Anonymous No.]

じゃそろそろ事業にいく

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971523
Subhuman decided to snitch on our secret club. Nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973213
じゅぎょうでしょ

じぎょうだとなにかわかんない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972569

How to look something up in the dictionary if you don't recognize the kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973307
てめえに分かってもらいたくて言ったわけじゃあねえんだよタコ

[Anonymous No.]

>The best japanese teacher on YouTube has some sort of speech impediment + garbage audio equipment that make it pretty much impossible to listen to her for extended periods of time (more than 5 minutes)

What do?

[Anonymous No.]

subs > dubs

[Anonymous No.]

What was your goal when you started learning Japanese? Mine was simply to read raw manga, which I am doing although this place made me feel unsatisfied because I am not at native fluency.

I have no plans to learn to write, or speak Japanese. Just reading is fine for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
speaking with my gf in her native language

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
First off manga isn't reading
Second off an awesome goal for anyone would be to watch some sick ass manga like this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
I was drunk and wanted to be able to read kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

this is trending in japan. can you read it?

[Anonymous No.]

Should I start RTK?
I'm around 2.5k words deep into core 6k

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973690
You should've dropped core long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
understanding variety shows with idols

[Anonymous No.]

>>19972578
>why even try learning
because there's native material i want to understand. kanji are still stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

one of the most surprising things to me was that kanji aren't actually difficult and they make the language easier
Jap is like baby Chink with its kana embracing kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973558
Is it real? How can that even happen? What's the chi lookalike thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974031
kanji will be replaced one day. they need spaces and more katakana loan words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19966614
deja vu on teh famicom

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973558
what are they talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974031
How are Chinese characters that dont follow the phonetic radical and hide whole native words inside them not difficult and make the language easier?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974118
because they have intrinsic meaning that helps me much more than soulless kana/latin script?? I went through RTK so you may not understand me and still struggle with them, that's understandable

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974131
i went through RTK so i have a strong recall for the daily use kanji but i still recognize that kanji are gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974131
RTK doesnt help with the problems I pointed out in kanji

[Anonymous No.]

Kanji serve as a natural pleb filter. Otherwise normalfags would ruin Japanese culture decades ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974031

I havent seriously begun on kanji yet, but i cant fathom how you can learn to read this language as fast as english.

With some kanji having like 8 readings, you gotta quickly decipher the whole context and choose the right reading over and over, between an extremely big pile of options.

Either im stupid, or it gets much better with time, but it seems daunting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974145
don't associate me with this retard btw:
>>19974228

[Anonymous No.]

rtk doesnt give you japanese meaning it gives you retarded english story meaning

youre not gonna think the same thing as a japanese person when you see a lot of kanjis

period

kanji makes japanese easier because its more information packed in a smaller space

thats it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971647
Steve as always. Every original thought Matt has ends up being wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971647
yung steve looks like hell in that vid

[Anonymous No.]

Recently I started to dream in Japanese. It feels so weird.

[Anonymous No.]

wait till you have hentai dreams and wake up cold and sticky ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973558
>Your dick!
>[censored]'s thing is fine??
>I'm sorry I hit it by mistake. I was tired and i accidentally hit it.
(white panel)
>I didn't think about it(?)/ I liked it?
>I'm fine
(green again)
>I'm really sorry.
>Thank you, I was really worried.
>See you tomorrow

im probably wrong but she did something to his cock i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974344
>I'm sorry I hit it by mistake. I was tired and i accidentally hit it.
yeah I probably TLed it wrong..

Thank you, I wanted it to hit it? I'm not sure how to translate お疲れ様です。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974374
Mr. Tired

[Anonymous No.]

most esteemed sir sleepy

[Anonymous No.]

I love kanji when they are alone, they can carry meanings, and it makes sense.

What i hate is compounded kanji where its hard to see the meaning of the two kanjis individual meanings, but becomes a totally 3rd meaning.

[Anonymous No.]

its like when you mix 2 colors and get aids

[Anonymous No.]

https://jn1et.com/jlpt-n0/
>"N0" grammar
>it's the simplest and easiest stuff to learn from anime/manga/VNs
Studying using JLPT resources is a meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974402
>not loving ateji
>not loving simpler kanji with the same sound or form being used in place of more complex kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974374
>お疲れ様です
have you never heard that in animes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974414
>learning anything from reading
nice meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974374
He accidently wrote the おちんちん when trying to write お疲れ様

[Anonymous No.]

you cant just do that you gotta let them do more of this >>19974344

[Anonymous No.]

time to do RTK!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974497

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974228
Just like in English, you learn to recognize words by their shape. You don't even need to know what a radical is in order to do this, much less be able to identify a kanji in isolation or write it from memory.

Ignore assburgers like Matt who just enjoy making things as overcomplicated and autistic as possible telling you that you need to "learn" all the kanji by doing RTK or some such first before you can start learning Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974497
>new: 100
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/AbN-U-zmHT0?t=535

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974446
I dont really watch anime, maybe I watched 3 or 4 shows all together.

[Anonymous No.]

matt while getting anally drilled by toilet head: もっと強く 俺のケツマンコに あぁ 早くっ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974526
I hope you're not trying to learn Japanese buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974526
shame on a ninja

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974344
>>[censored]'s thing is fine??
"Did [censored matter] go okay?"

>>I'm sorry I hit it by mistake. I was tired and i accidentally hit it.
"Sorry, I made a typo. I meant to type お疲れ様です!" (something along the line of "thanks for your hard work today")

>>I didn't think about it(?)/ I liked it?
>>I'm fine
"I was wondering what on earth you were talking about"
"(the matter) went fine."

[Anonymous No.]

how a simple typo created a bond that will last a lifetime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974497
私の同じだぁ！
何で？！あんたは私なのか＠

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974572
privatenosamejidaa
whatde?antahaprivatenanoka@

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974545
I want to play The great ace attorney though.. Capcom is fucking gay and didn't port it.

[Anonymous No.]

capcom is fuckin gay thats most certainly true

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw theres a single kanji i have failed 35 times in a row in anki now.

Rest are fine. Fuck sometimes i dont understand how i work...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974617
which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974625

Just a super mega simple 空く for empty

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974629
guess you ought to do RTK

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974643

Yea im just starting the whole thing, so im kinda all over the place since i know i should do both grammar, anki, RTK and kana repetition, so im not sure which order i should prioritize my learning.

Guess ill start on RTK tomorrow

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974629
Add more words you know with the same kanji, like 空っぽ or something. More words = more associations = easier to remember.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974652
>Guess ill start on RTK tomorrow
And so we lost another one...

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974652
Just do 20-30 a day RTK and you'll be done with kanji in a few months, then you can concentrate on the actual japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974604
that's it faggot
*takes out arcade stick*

[Anonymous No.]

> 入
Did the nips steal it from the greeks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974617
It happens to me too. Not yet 35 in a row, but soon (度)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974714
calvin.. no..

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
When I started it was probably to read LNs because I really enjoyed anime like Zero no Tsukaima and Shakugan no Shana. I thought if I could read Japanese then I could read the rest of the story without having to wait for anime sequels that may never come. Now, after having read 1 LN, I realize reading books is really boring compared to watching anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
I want to leave my shithole country and move to Japan.
Also read raw manga and Soseki

[Anonymous No.]

sooseji

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
I wanna go there as an exchange student in uni and maybe get an engineering job from there and live there.

[Anonymous No.]

Just started on RTK, but im confused if im doing it right.

Im supposed to see the Kanji, read the small story and imagine how the visuals match the story with the earlier kanji as building blocks, and thus it will make me remember kanji because theres other visuals/imagination/stories connected to them? (and writing the kanji and meaning down after of course)


Or am i understanding it incorrectly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975032
Yea, you see the word, if you can recall the kanji, well enough to write it down press "good" if not, press again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975040

Ohh... im supposed to use the first 20 in the anki deck, after reading the first 20 in the book?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975053
You don't really need the book for anything else than for the radicals, and i haven't bothered with that either for quite some time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975081

I thought the mini stories in the books were required, or do you make your own stories/imaginations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975089
The mini stories should be included in the anki deck, if they aren't on yours, get another deck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975094

Ahh i see. Okay last question, in the RTK method, is there a great focus on remembering the japanese reading, or is that more for the 2K anki deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19969519
>>19975104
Read the guide before asking stupid questions.
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Seriously though, it's pretty much what you would get as replies from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975104
I haven't bothered with the jap readings at all, seem difficult, i'll learn them when i learn the words associated with the particular kanji, for now i'm only learning to draw and recognize squiggly chinese lines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975116

Well, i did read the guides, but sometimes people are special like me, and dont understand the guides or explanations. Getting them in another way helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975125
stop lying. you're just lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

theres really nothing to be ashamed of in not reading the guide its a hunka shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974871
One book isn't enough to judge whether you like books since 90% are garbage. Imagine watching one random seasonal anime and determining whether you like anime based off that.

[Anonymous No.]

you like anime because they have big eyes and funny color hair and short skirts and long legs which is mostly universal

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975135

From what i gather, the guide says i should learn that kanji are made of, and try learn the kanji's meaning.

But that doesnt mean i cant get confused. I dont know if its implied i should know the japanese spelling of the word like in the 2K deck.

It says readings are through vocab, and that might mean readings is 2K deck only, but as a non-native english speaker im simply not 100% sure, hence my questions.

[Anonymous No.]

恵那なら二階の部屋にいる
what's Nara's purpose here?

[Anonymous No.]

I like anime cuz it's mature like me and the creators understand me.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 私ならゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

そうならばわたしはゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
I'm unironically in it for the porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975160
if its nara youre asking about then you should consult the net

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
I wanted to interpret and understand Japanese erotic games on anything but a surface level.

[Anonymous No.]

porn is so fucking boring. yea sure i like to wack off to hentai but you're just trying to meme when you claim it's your motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975032
>Just started on RTK, but im confused if im doing it right.
The fact that you're doing it at all means you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

sounds to me like you cant keep it up for longer than a few screens

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975195
i've had multi hour sessions but they can't be a motivation for learning japanese. quit the memes now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973370
Watch anime without subtitles.
Read/eat untranslated VNs and manga.

[Anonymous No.]

have you ever considered that youre just an end user of porn but thats not all there is to it for the truly woke

[Anonymous No.]

the one male interest youd never expect to waver is jerking off
porn is the least transient reason to learn a language
no meme

[Anonymous No.]

I am a consumer when i cum
I use a product to jizz me off

[Anonymous No.]

theres no consumption going on if youve got yer sea legs

[Anonymous No.]

the only thing left is to consume your own cum

[Anonymous No.]

just blow it all over your own face like youre in a bukkake porno and then take a selfie and make the v sign and tweet that shit

[Anonymous No.]

dont use twatter itll permanently cripple every language youve acquired to any degree including sign and morse code

[Anonymous No.]

>grind up 500+ verbs in anki
>don't recognize half of them anyway when reading because of all the fucking conjugations and yotsuba kanjiless talk

[Anonymous No.]

Cichlids tend to be highly territorial and socially competitive. They're constantly vying for some rock or hole to "own". Usually it is recommended to overstock a cichlid tank slightly in order to disperse aggression. With three fish it's easy for the most aggressive alpha to pick on and injure the weakest link. With twelve fish the most aggressive alpha will have that many more others to compete with/take out his aggression on. Sometimes, however, the weakest link still emerges. When this happens multiple fish might pick on the weakling and chase him/her around, disallowing them from entering any kind of territory among the rocks (they like rocks). They drive this weaker fish to stay toward the top reaches of the tank. Eventually the fish just starts hanging out there naturally because it knows it'll get bullied if it comes down. Then, after some time of giving up on fighting for its own territory and competing with the other fish, the weakling just...gives up. Even if the other fish have left them alone by then, and the fish isn't physically injured or lacking food or anything, the fish doesn't even try to reenter "society" anymore and just...dies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975252
Great. You know what to fix next. 千里の道も一歩から

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975154
You don't learn the readings with RTK. You only learn the kanji and the keyword. You learn the readings later when you learn vocab with either the Core deck, a mining deck, or some other vocab deck.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/9jhx5p/why_is_the_djt_not_talked_about_more_often_the/

I really hope those reddit retards don't cause the site to be DMCA'd :[

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975385
oh shit fuck, whoever is managing that site take offline for at least a week, quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

yes better act now reddit is coming lmao

[Anonymous No.]

i for one welcome our new shift key using enter key double pressing eternally reading genki refugees

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975385
Pirates deserve to be reported.

[Anonymous No.]

bloody thieving mother fuckers

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974526
At least watch naruto

>>19974879
That's nice and all but manga isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>cracks open pop and procrastinates rereading parts of tae kim and reading articles i previously ignored like と's function in phrases like という because i've seen this stuff in what i'm reading several times and i always struggle to comprehend what's going on even though i've read basic explanations that と means something is being quoted/referred to and という and と思う means "X is named/is called/i thought/" but the sentence still doesn't make much sense to me

[Anonymous No.]

>pops open your crack and fucks you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975514
Post the sentence, I promise not to make fun of you.

[Anonymous No.]

post the sentence i will be rude and vaguely point you in the right direction without giving you the answer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975528
>>19975535
if i read an explanation and still don't get it next time i come across it i'll post it here so you can laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

make no mistake i dont think its funny

well ok i think this is funny >>19974344

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975385
Oh my god. Yeah something needs to be done. The site needs to be taken down for a bit or something.
Reddit I know you're reading this. You chose to go to Reddit, you use your Reddit resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>get stuck watching japanese super mario maker playing girl and delay doing daily anki indefinitely

[Anonymous No.]

i think we linguists should be kind to reddit refugees. they're just looking for a better life. and besides, environment is all that matters so given enough time they'll assimilate perfectly into our culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975579
>listen to it on speakers
>she starts moaning

[Anonymous No.]

I FUKKING LOVE SUBS2SRS

NOW I BUKAKKE MYSELF IN COMPELLING CONTENT 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975580
They themselves are wholly responsible for their horrid environment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975630
課労死

[Anonymous No.]

Fuu reddit contamination . What a cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975580
To adapt better to our culture they should be reminded at every occasion of how pathetic and disgusting they are. Which is what we do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975559
i don't give a shit if reddtors use it, just don't link a site full of pirated materials on fucking reddit. how is that.

[Anonymous No.]

>use Subs2SRS to extract the audio from an audio
>3 of the episodes have the same audio
I thought I was going crazy because I kept hearing the same things over and over. I wonder how that happened.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone got some personal recommendations for novels/light novels? all i read is manga right now, and like everyone says, it's not enough. visual novels are fucking boring, so i can't say that's a good solution.
i'd use the cornucopia, but it's filled with shit like mayo chiki, so i don't know where to begin.

[Anonymous No.]

>visual novels are fucking boring
And you're a fucking faggot. What else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975734
konosuba
spice and wolf
Gosick

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975731
if your episode numbers don't have the same amount of numerals, the ordering can get fucked up. e.g. it'll go 9, 10, 101, 102, instead of 9, 10, 11, 12.
009, 010, 011, would correct that.

[Anonymous No.]

https://neocities.org/site/itazuraneko/stats
>implying being posted on reddit is going to change anything at all

[Anonymous No.]

what's the difference between lns and vns? i thought they were the same shit except one has sound and lets you make choices occasionally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975762
Light Novels are books, Visual Novels are games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975759
that's not the one that was linked in the main post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975768
are they similar in terms of story quality and difficulty?

>Visual Novels are games.
i guess technically but it's basically just a choose your own adventure book with sounds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975769
why did you respond to my post

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975756
That's a good guess, but the all the numbers are double digits. I'll figure it out later.

>>19975783
Are you trying to say they are both the same just because they have written text? Some VNs are actual games, like Baldr Sky and Utawarerumono.

The average LN and the average VN are probably about the same difficulty I would think. There are some very difficult VNs but I've never heard of a very difficult LN. Quality is probably about the same. The majority of them are shit, but with some really good ones mixed in.

[Anonymous No.]

https://neocities.org/site/boirodaisuki/stats
寂しさを

[Anonymous No.]

would　ここにいるだけ means only X exist here, or X only exists here? like Only happiness exist (in this place) or Happiness only exist (in this place)

dunno if I'm making much sense since im a dirty ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975844
how does it feel to be losing to a site i dont even link anymore but im totally getting a degree in web design and the relaunch is totally coming dattebayo

https://neocities.org/site/nihongobyjamal/stats

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975869
it can mean "all that there is about the situation is that it is here" or "this is the only place where it is" but not "it is the only thing that is here"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975880
最低、悲しい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975869
post the full sentence sven

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975844
I don't know what's the point of that site so it's already an achievement

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the original OP image without DJT and website watermark? This really needs to added to my dekinai chan folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975908

[Anonymous No.]

please help me make sense of this conjugation..
（わざわざ）買ってもらわなくても
ok so first is 買ってもらう which is to buy and then give(the speaker)
but he used negative もらわなくても
where i got confused, what's くても does here?

this is hard.. ;_:

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976002
oh.. is it ない＋くてもいい？
なくてもいい？　＞ don't have to buy it for me? is it common to drop the いい　in casual speech?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975734
Manga isn't reading, dumbass.
Here's your recommendation https://vndb.org/v5392

[Anonymous No.]

>ちょうど今近くで取材終わってさ　
>メシでもどうかと思ったんだけど

>i just finished an interview and was wondering
>if you are hungry

can somebody pls explain the translation?

どうかと思う 【どうかとおもう】
[v5u,exp] to think (something) is improper; to question; to have a problem with

how is the "was wondering if you are hungry" derived from this.

[Anonymous No.]

beauty in its purest form

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976013
You got it and yes.

[Anonymous No.]

can you make them exercise and diet and get skinny >>19976016

[Anonymous No.]

the only exercise you get albeit good exercise is fuckin

[Anonymous No.]

tsk a man can dream well thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975824
>There are some very difficult VNs but I've never heard of a very difficult LN.

Bakemonogatari is a good example of a hard light novel, and i found it as difficult as higurashi, which is the hardest visual novel i know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976028
>ちょうど今近くで取材終わってさ
I just finished 取材 nearby
>メシでもどうかと思ったんだけど
and I thought "how about a meal or something," but... [how would you feel about that?]

[Anonymous No.]

lmao ↑

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976095 was for >>19976084

[Anonymous No.]

>と思います

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976095
Why are you laughing at my accurate if overliteral translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976084
Tatami galaxy is also said to be diffcult.

[Anonymous No.]

This is why we have the post citation feature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976095 was for >>19976118

[Anonymous No.]

sometimes shit happens dude instead of quoting the post that i thought was right above me ima just let me nuts hang and fix it later if it goes wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>19971523
>Interesting that they leave off Wanikani in the guide. Maybe there's some beef lol
is he right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976217
the only beef is with the idea that because something is behind a paywall then it has to be good or work or not be a steaming pile of money grubbing shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976224
worst thing about wanki kani is that you can't even choose your level lol, "oh you already know 500ish kanji?" tough luck start from level 1 lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976106
That's a "regular" novel, not a LN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975395
>>19975559
Maintainer for the original neocities is MIA, unfortunately.

Hoping a few anons have a back-up of all the resources there just in case. I don't really give a shit about the textbooks, etc., but losing that archive of raw manga and LNs or the DJT library would be devastating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976084

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976283
>>19975425

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976283
like why would you post that like its someone elses problem instead of just download it all yourself you thieving wanker

[Anonymous No.]

>>19975385
>>19976283
Oh fuck. Some cockmongler posted the itazuraneko link there too.

>>19975425
It takes one moralfag to go and flag a bunch of the mega links for copyright infringement, and if they're all linked to one or just a handful of accounts which get deleted as a result, EVERYTHING in the CoR will be gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976317
>>19976302

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976302
maybe he doesn't have the space for it you cock sucking retard. god I want you banned so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976356
if you cant do anything you shouldnt cry about it and instead figure out how to do something

eat shit you little nothing keep wishing

[Anonymous No.]

is 10 new words per day a lot?

[Anonymous No.]

The original websitekeeper said that all links to the manga library are throwaway accounts to which the files are imported from the primary unlisted backup. Probably the cornucopia too. I don't know about the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

fret for your manga comics and fret for your light novellas

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976447
depends, I do 25, but its a mixture of mining, genki book vocab and optimized 6k. there is a lot of overlap and the optimized deck doesn't show too many different kanjis in row, so it's not bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976317
I'd just like to know what goes through a moralfag's mind to where they support massive corporations over some people just trying to learn to better themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

im pretty sure its not a "moral fag" that would report your little manga stash but just a shit head that intentionally wants to fuck with you

after all im against stealing and piracy (try b4 u buy is not lawfully acceptable but i morally accept it) and im not trying to get your mangas taken away

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976529
esp when getting RAW LNs in a lot of countries is a total pain in the ass lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976538
>after all im against stealing and piracy
imagine being so fucking beta

[Anonymous No.]

>mega dot nz / # F!6iphSZTC!gLQcBzoq0eJU4rXPdOTc8g
>itazuraneko dot neocities dot org / library / manga.html # back
free mega account with burner email + import folder option = backups

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976573
the internet isnt just one giant grab bag

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976590
pretty sure you were a punching bag at school, that's why you are so fucked in the head

[Anonymous No.]

>小さな子供の頭は、消し飛んでなくなってしまった
>消し飛んでなくなってしまった。
japs do love making their verbs needlessly long and add redundancy huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976599
why you so mad because you blindly steal without even understanding what it means

btw my school life was rosy and epic and i look back on it fondly

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976607
>you blindly steal without even understanding what it means
what what means? stop fucking up everyone's fun with your gay rules straight out of leddit
you are still a piece of shit even though you don't steal things on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976538
>little manga stash
2198 series consisting of 17912 volumes, over a terabyte of data, is a tad more significant than a little collection.
Are you the "manga isn't reading" retard?

[Anonymous No.]

if only the quality wasn't so shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976616
they arent my rules they are the rules

im not fucking up anyones fun you can steal if you want to just try to comprehend what youre actually doing the next time you do it

>>19976621
how much of that data is actually text

also no but this is a good angle to take in response to your particular post so yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976625
Yeah, you are that retard. Seek help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976630
5% of the IPs on DJT are responsible for 95% of the shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976628
>they are the rules
so you obey every law just because it's a law? you're a hypocrite if you say so because everyone breaks some law from time to time even in minor ways
I thought you had some arguments backing up your stance on piracy, but what you came up is just
>I can't think for myself, the government needs to do it for me, they can tell me what's right and what's wrong

you aren't even a person

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976644
congratulation on being in the 5%

>>19976645
you assume things about me you assume things about everyone else when you say im ruining their fun

do you actually think before you post or do you just blindly attack like you blindly steal you blind little feral child : )

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976656
stop using emotes it's against the unwritten rules of this place you roastie/basedboy

[Anonymous No.]

Reply to this post with top 5 most contributing post in this thread so far: go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976683
>>19969958

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976683
>>19969946

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976683
>>19969713

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976683
>>19971070

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976683
>>19971523

[Anonymous No.]

>習う
Would most Japanese pronounce this in a way that Americans would perceive as "nala" instead of "nara" or could this word be pronounced either way and the speaker from jpod101 just happened to sound more like the former? I'm wondering how interchangeable Ls and Rs really are. Probably just depends.

[Anonymous No.]

it riterarry make no difference just say naraowっ

[Anonymous No.]

tfw anglos can't pronounce japanese

[Anonymous No.]

*angros

[Anonymous No.]

I'm using the Core 2K/6K deck and struggling to remember certain words but others just stick in my head, the core 2K is designed just to get basic vocab before you actually start learning right?

In the meantime of doing the Core 2K (I'm around 200 in) should I be doing something else or just doing this? It says to do grammar guide once you're a while into the core 2K

Would it be a good idea to learn radicals while doing the Core 2K so I can learn kanji easier in the future?

[Anonymous No.]

it would be a good idea to watch 10000 hours of anime for epic win

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976889
You should read the grammar guide and then start reading while doing core2k so that reading will reinforce the words showing up in anki and vice versa. This is obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976621
Manga is awesome I love it it's just not reading.
Did you get your feelings hurt from someone calling the stash little? It's not little it's okay don't worry.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason to keep doing anki? I would rather read or play games I spend on the time doing Anki

[Anonymous No.]

how auto pilot are you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976985
If you're at a point where the benefits of anki aren't obvious to you, why do you even have to ask?

[Anonymous No.]

I can't stop watching ペッパピッグ I maybe understand one word a sentence but it's so comfy.

[Anonymous No.]

watch that fuckin pig

[Anonymous No.]

In order to get myself to read more, I thought I'd try to set a time frame on reading books. I don't have much free time, so I feel like one LN per week would be an okay pace that I'd see decent improvement in my comprehensionryoku. Is that too slow?

[Anonymous No.]

forcing yourself not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977181
budgeting your time and sticking to it is good time management

good luck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977180
They played hide and seek and joji fucking hid in his dad's newspaper. What an absolute genius

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977186
I'm not forcing anything, it's just that I have a lot of different hobbies and limited time to budget for them when wageslavery is taken into account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977070
Im not sure if im at a point where Anki is no longer beneficial to me, but I guess dropping it might be better since I dont enjoy doing it at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977289
I'll tell you right now that I'm at the point where Anki is beneficial to me still but I dropped it anyway because I only have enough time for "read" or "do anki and burn out."

[Anonymous No.]

screw anki, just stare at the squigly writing till it makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977311
I don't get how people get burnt out.. you don't get burnt out reading books, just learn to love anki like I do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977313
instead of posting this crap post a page from rokudenashi blues next time please

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977313
Looks like i still have a lot of Kanji left to learn!

[Anonymous No.]

nihongo

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977311
same
>>19977321
books are more stimulating than anki desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977333
i just spam omigoto over and over lol

[Anonymous No.]

please respond to this post with an illustration from the LN you're currently reading or a screenshot of the VN you're currently playing. a manga page is fine too. i just want to know what all of my incredibly beautiful and fun-to-be-around friends ITT are doing right now.

this chapter fucked me up. i hope the kid was ok in the end

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized now that I've been typing so much in hiragana, even when I'm typing in English I tend to hit the keys in groups of two.
li ke im ty pi ng th is wa y.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977350

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977356
jsyk when you make posts like this it reaffirms me in knowing that this thread is worth coming to

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977356
I like her tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977356
易しい読む

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977394
>む

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977354
why don't you type some for us, big boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19976977
Why do you dedicate so much of your life shitting up this thread? Without you this thread would be decent. What is your personal beef with djt?

[Anonymous No.]

the rare learned japanese but never uses it cause he hates everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977350
so uhhhh
i guess nobody's readin anything or consuming content of any sort. ya'll really only come here for the jokes and funposting? it's not like i'm looking for recommendations

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977556
im still going through yotsuba.. I refuse to turn the page until i look upe very unknown grammar point which is usually 1 per page.. middle of volume 2 right now..

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977584
>e very unknown grammar point
if you are pretty sure on what is being said you don't need to check why the grammar makes it that way, memorized rules/facts are not acquired language

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977556
Rereading dies irae to gently immerse myself back into Japanese after a 6 month break. After that it'll be time for the big boy stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977646
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977676
convincing counterpoint

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977556
I am slowly turning gay watching Ushizawa play Dragon Quest Builders after someone posted screenshots of it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFOr-8WAcLc&list=PLyqi9vd697GINWLbaQQJ2r001gkBp_VuX

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977556
Sorry, but I haven't been reading anything lately. I just started watching Hai to Gensou no Grimgar though.

[Anonymous No.]

What does it feel like it "make it"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977556
I"m doing core decks and immersing in japanese video content. Best thing for me at my level. I'll read manga when I don't have to look words up anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977779
>I'll read manga when I don't have to look words up anymore.
so never?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977787
More like a few more months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977795
how many words will you be at then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977778
i'll let you know next summer

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977799
I'm at about 5000 now, but now that I finished joyo I'm moving pretty fast. I'm mostly concerned with listening and vocab. Then after I can do that really well I'll go hard on manga for a bit. I'm about a year in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977778
Surprisingly anticlimactic. Enjoy while you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977825
focusing on listening before reading is reasonable, but expect to have a hard time with reading even if you finish core6k first, and set your sights higher than manga if you're getting comfortable with grammar already

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvlqLDKtQ-4
this dude is great for listening practice

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977858
Yea I'm excited to read a book one day, but I think I got a ways. Maybe I'll just dive into something but right now I'm feeling good progress doing what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977863
what is this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977887
this is what youre reduced to using your nip for when you dont like anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977887
クリスの部屋

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977863
nice the sounds of paint drying my favorite

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977892
苦しいね

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977912
better than learning a bunch of anime gibberish youll never use in a convo

[Anonymous No.]

new video from our guy. can't wait to optimize my anki decks

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977546
It really doesn't take much time to scan through the swamp real quick every once in a while and I don't think correcting people is shitting up a thread but let's just end the conversation here instead of shitting up the thread for real.

>>19977556
Here you go dude read about Kariya livin the tough life. Or you can scroll up a little bit and see some awesome manga.
>>19977779
You'll never read manga because manga isn't reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977933
>/ourgay/
can't wait for him to explain how numbers work for 45 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977928
what does he say that you wouldn't learn in anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977939
your gimmicks better when you just keep your posts short and to the point with the tag line

when you start trying to talk it stops working and you just become hella gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977960
tell that to the toilet cleaner who deletes my posts otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977949
He speaks super clear, doesn't talk about nonsense like 魔法、化け物、よかい、etc. I like anime and jdramas too but you do learn a lot of useless words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977973
have you ever just considered that your posts arent posts

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uurlmW96GOg

>Calculating the Ideal Retention Rate
I don't know what's going to be worse, an hour of him talking just to say it's 100%, or an hour of him trying to rationalize that anything less than 100% is somehow "ideal"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977974
>conversations about 魔法、化け物、よかい、etc don't exist
>you can only talk about sports, politics, and regular tv
damn i guess /a/ isnt real and neither are any of the online conversations nips have about anime

[Anonymous No.]

the worst is that someone here is actually going to watch it

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977974
you really shouldnt have taken that bait now you just look really cute and im gonna have to take you home with me and fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977949
You can't understand because you don't know Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977974
>doesn't talk about nonsense like 魔法、化け物、よかい
Sad life for you

[Anonymous No.]

イエスキリスト

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977996
he said i'm a subarashii ii yatsu but also a fusen
i won't let your ya take me down

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977974
he talked about plenty of nonsense
are you intending to speak japanese but never about your interests?
>>19977996
i only watch anime and i found him easy to understand which is why i asked

[Anonymous No.]

before you can learn japanese you must learn calculus

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978015
No, you learn japanese by learning calculus in japanese!

[Anonymous No.]

Skimmed the Matt video, the OFFICIAL IDEAL RETENTION RATE is anywhere between 65% and 80%

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978021

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977974
>よかい

[Anonymous No.]

the ideal retention rate is whatever you remember knowingly or unknowingly from watching 10000 hours of anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978024
did he make any attempt to justify the numbers he pulled out of his ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978043
Yes, with an equation he pulled out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.]

should I watch gachimans spiderman lets plays or just play the game myself?

[Anonymous No.]

from what ive seen posted thus far my assumption is he used a combination of his high school precalc class knowledge combined with the epic formulas on wikipedia to tell you the ratio of flashcards you need to remember to become ichaban tuyoi gayjeen

[Anonymous No.]

err excuse me formulae*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978047
how much can he fit up there

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978069
more with each passing night

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978072
aint that the truth we should be happy for the guy

[Anonymous No.]

that guys gonna be poopin in diapers because his hole will be nigh uncontrollable due to repeated abuse before his patreons learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

its what happens when you turn your back on 2d

[Anonymous No.]

>>19974539

[Anonymous No.]

one of these days im going to tweet our posts to matt until he blocks me

[Anonymous No.]

My opinion is that everyone has a natural retention rate and there is no way to change it. You can add more reps and that will increase the retention rate but then you are taking more time to cover the same amount of words. Then you get into situations where you could either be spending 1 hour a day in Anki and getting 70% retention, or 1.5 hours and getting 80%. Which is better? I'd go with the first one because I hate Anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978024
60 min video to explain what I intutively figured out my first week of Anki.. I did like his point about not getting hung up on hard words and just suspending them and do a bunch of easy words with that time. I spend like 10 times as long on some words than others so that was actually a pretty good tip.

[Anonymous No.]

matt prolly made the video to try to come off smart again to his subs and that rest assured even though he isnt making the promised amount of content hes still really smart because look at all this math wow and his subs should continue to sub because hes really smart and as a result they can learn japanese just being in proximity of his epic intelligence

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978132
luckily that plan will work perfectly because that's why they subbed in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978139
why you lyin
he's growing it out in exchange for yoga teaching him programming

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978139
more like pre and post chemo for when he gets epic rectal cancer from the anal sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978139
I wish you would stop making fun of Matt for balding. His hairline is very similar to mine :(

[Anonymous No.]

kino angry birds za mobii mimashita. kekko omoshirokatta deshtia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978118
The hard words seem to come most naturally when reading them anyway

Like I can't for the life of me remember what fucking 様子 means on its own in a flash card, but it never DOESN'T make sense when I see it in the news or hear it somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

itu demo ii yo

[Anonymous No.]

this is fucked up
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9C%9F%E4%BD%90%E5%BC%81
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwd9IPowmfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaJdFgPzjxA

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978398
forgot omake pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978381
ikuッ

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

たいうふうきてる

やばいやばい

[Anonymous No.]

おきなわ さようなら

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ML955u8Y0

How about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977556
I'm reading a VN on my PS Vita and don't bother taking screenshots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978381

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978381
B-But I haven't immersed this week! I won't be as good as usual!

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978429
jesus CHRIST
that part where he shows the script and starts explaining had me dumbfounded

[Anonymous No.]

ことしまつたけがやすいみたい

くろでんわがたんしょうに

２トンおくったらしいのが

にほんにもでまわってる

[Anonymous No.]

>study and read diligently for hours per week
>write kanji with perfect proper stroke order
>watch youtubers who live and work in Japan
>terrible grammar and they don't know basic kanji

The fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978637
Gaijin vloggers are pathetic. Look at me I'm in Japan! Who fucking cares. There are so many of them as well.

[Anonymous No.]

How does jisho fuck this up?

[Anonymous No.]

do gaijin vloggers typically trash japan? or do they verbally jerk off japan every time they vlog
i ask because laowai vloggers will frequently shit on china and warn people not to visit

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978700
It's always either one or the other. Although, Chris Broad seems relatively balanced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978637
>Work for english teaching company
>English CEO comes up
>"I've been in Japan for 40 years, still don't know any Japanese though, hahaha"
There are people who move to Japan permanently with no intent of learning the language and it's pretty disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978410
猛烈なお台風様は恐ろしそうね。。。
注意が必要、匿名くん。

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978697
Remove the space and it will detect the word correctly. goo辞書 has a similar parsing behaviour.
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/srch/all/大丈%E3%80%80夫/m0u/

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978637
but do you watch anime son

[Anonymous No.]

>one rep takes 20 seconds
15 minutes in and already his optimization method is flawed

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978779
There's no space, it's whenever I search in a sentence it fucks up like that, not only that word but several others. It would also be nice if it gave results of derivatives on every word like it does when you only search one word or the first word of a sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978792
Do not measure a day in how many reps you did, but how many things you read and understood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978807
Does jisho even have a sentence parser? You might want to try something like http://www.edrdg.org/cgi-bin/wwwjdic/wwwjdic?9T

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978814
if you're wasting an hour a day on anki you're not reading and listening to as much as you could be

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978837
Why does that guy look like Harold

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978814
>>19978845
>Not spending 5 minutes when you first wake up to see 10 words in anki for the first time, then 5 more minutes to review them until they're all done, while reading the rest of the day
You're not going to make it, either of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978898
>do anki reps while at work
>also read the news and a LN all the while
>sadly can't listen tho due to dumb work rules

Anki is best saved for time that would otherwise be wasted. Work is a perfect example of this.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you say "If this is not possible then,"

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979002
できないなら

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979002
中出しの喜び

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979002
無理だったら

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979002
私はゲイ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979002
＿得られないなら

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks guys, I'm too lazy to double check but I'm sure you are all just helpful guys. I'm gonna use >>19979033
this guy's translation because he got dubs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19978776
あめのなか

かさをささずに

はしりだしたりしたいんだけど

おとながとめる

[Anonymous No.]

>280 reviews
くくく
これがだけか？

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979092
>これがだけか
>が
Maybe you should read something instead of doing Anki to avoid making mistakes like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979212
>エイゴで　とうこうしてる

たとえ　ほん１まんさつを　よんでも　にほんごは　わからない　と思う

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979212
anki drone here
I wouldn't make that mistake, please stop degrading us.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NInGVNQkqxc
Listening to it for the 5th time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979212
Hard implications that people who read are unable to make mistakes.

t. LingQ user

[Anonymous No.]

what's the name of the Anki add-on that removes cards automatically after N amount of time?

[Anonymous No.]

What's your favorite Japanese curse word?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979450
Just write it yourself, it's literally 10 lines of python code

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979485
Sasuga Anglos get FTL first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979472
>just learn python lmao
Wow you're cool

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979498
Python is designed to be usable by mentally deficient children. In fact, Anki is written by them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979582
Japanese is spoken by retarded kids too.

[Anonymous No.]

>https://neocities.org/site/itazuraneko/stats
KILL ME

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979064
おとながとがめる

のほうがきがきいていたかもしれない

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
This had better be hours of anime watched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
should've locked it behind matt trivia

[Anonymous No.]

>Know enough japanese to understand most of what is being said in my hentai doujins without having to look stuff up
>Still requires me to focus too much on what's being said which makes me lose my boner.
Life if is full of dilemmas

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
thanks reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
Posting it to Facebook as well just to annoy you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
Take the site off for a week or 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
i tried to tell him that his image wouldn't tell us whether or not reddit would fuck with the visitor count

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
On a call with the FBI as we speak. You're fucked bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>another site uses a guide that may or may not have been intended only for us
oh no it's the end of the fucking world
>mfw the fanbase killed the guide for me
wtf i hate japanese now

[Anonymous No.]

should be happy more people than ever are permanently crippling their japanese

[Anonymous No.]

おなかすいた

おとうふたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980036
If the amount of cripples increases, then us True Learners will be forced to read more of their garbage questions in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

There's like 3-4 lowercasers who are fucking this thread, and if they were banned it could be salvaged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
>uniques barely up
botnetted

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBLdtGXkOnQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>19977980
Anyone knowledgeable on the subject matter watched this video yet? It Matt just talking a load of bollocks or does his theory make sense?

TL;DW:
Matt argues (seemingly based on an image he found in 5 minutes on Google) that increasing your retention rate requires exponentially more work. That is, going from 60% retention to 61% retention requires much less work than going from 80% to 81%, despite the same 1% increase in material remembered.

He then argues based on this that aiming for a lower retention rate reduces your work load, which in turn allows you to learn more new cards per day. He claims that this actually results in you being able to learn more information than you would were you aiming for the default 90% retention, because while your retention rate has only gone down a little, the amount of new cards you can learn each day has gone up by more than enough to offset that drop in retention.

I haven't finished the video yet, but that sums up the ~10 minute introduction. The rest of the video is seemingly just him outlining how he came up with his formula for calculating the ideal retention rate and then giving his conclusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979631
Browsing those featured Neocities sites is a huge nostalgia trip. Remember when Sailor Moon sprites were everywhere in the 90s?

[Anonymous No.]

What's a calendar I can use to keep track of what I learn? Kinda like what Brett Kavanaugh did but for Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980119
I don't know whether his exact numbers are correct but in principle isn't it kind of obvious he's right? It's something you can test and see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980123

[Anonymous No.]

>>19973324
draw it in paint and post it in this thread and we'll help you frend :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980099
From 4k~ to 12.5~ is not a small increase

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980119
problem with his math is it doesnt account for nearly enough variables and frankly intangibles to be something that can be proven with scientific method

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980123
who? clue me in i wanna get in on the ground floor for djts next eceleb

[Anonymous No.]

The new matt tutorial is confusing. Even though it is an hour long, for most people with 90% retention it comes down to just one advise, which is to make your interval modifier 339% and stop caring about retention. Do you guys think it is the right thing to do? Does it apply to sentence cards or RTK cards as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980142
in fact i could disprove it personally

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980169
you should and make the scales fall from the eyes of the blind matt cultists

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980119
NC on the video but what you're saying is the basics of SRS. I mean, you can get near 100% retention by just drilling a single word every second continuously forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980149
Kavanaugh is Trump's pick for the Supreme Court who is embroiled in sexual assault allegations and is now facing an FBI investigation.

Not sure what the calendar bit is in reference to though. I haven't really been paying attention to the trail at all since I'm not a burger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980163
I don't know about recently but when I started the advice was to keep retention at around 80%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980119
This is me some autism. Just fucking read.
Don't make cards from words on your first encounter. Only if you've encountered a word multiple times but you keep forgetting it, then turn it into a card.
Don't even bother adding sentences since it's a word you keep encountering while reading anyway, that'll provide enough context.
Delete older cards with high intervals regularly.

That's all there is to it.

Also watch 10000 hours of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980149
dems realized they can forever stall a supreme court confirmation by throwing baseless allegations at a guy every week or two

[Anonymous No.]

Getting 90% retention, at least on young cards, seems pretty rare in these threads from the screencaps I've seen posted here of people's Anki stats. His assumption that people using Anki for Japanese vocab are by default operating on the level of 90% retention in the first place seems to be wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980203
Ｄ４Ｃ？

よんでないけど

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980204
What if they put forth a female republican candidate? Wouldn't that checkmate them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980212
two words: sentence cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980216
Trump wants a hard conservative on the Supreme Court to help push his agenda through, and you don't find many women who fall into that category.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980216
accuse her of sexual misconduct xD

where my metoo boys at

[Anonymous No.]

お前ら我《ぼく》を倒せるか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980223
An i+1 sentence card is basically a vocab card plus context. And you test yourself on that specific word. Is this right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980275
the sentence on the front is basically why they have such high retention

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980071
This thread is for laughing at dekinais anyway. For learning there are VNs and anime and books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980212
Tell that to my face, not online motherfucker, and see what happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980287
id just ask you to say something in japanese and youd blush and look down at the floor and then id lean you over the nearest waist high object and sensually fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980310
ひっどい！

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980310
ひどすぎるんじゃないですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980223
Sentence cards can't be that great for retention considering Matt said he only did 10-15 cards a day while he was doing AJATT and used to tell people that if they did any more than 20 a day they were going against his advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980275
>i+1 sentence
No such thing. Please stop misappropriating terminology. The term you're looking for is n+1.

[Anonymous No.]

やさいを

たべよう

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980387
they're basicallya cheat dude when i had sentences on my fronts i had 85 % then put them on the back and went down to 65/70 %

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980287
I actually have the same retention %, but I only add words I'm pretty familiar with and just use Anki to help me remember how to read them. I only started this deck 3 weeks ago though so I don't know if it's a good idea or not yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980417
たまにはいいよね

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOw2UPtPUyw

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980441
ブロッコリーは

やさいより

おにくにちかい

[Anonymous No.]

＞deck uses kanji for words that are normally in hiragana
＞know the word when it's in kanji
＞forget it when it's in hiragana

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980418
Is it really worth is considering how much more time they take?

https://youtu.be/uurlmW96GOg?t=892
>3 reps a minute
>180 reps an hour

No wonder he's so desperate to cut down his review load.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980491
This, kids, is what happens when you slack on your 10000 hours of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980491
もっとボイスロイド実況を見てごらんなさい

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980212

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980484
キミのお肉ちょうだい

[Anonymous No.]

How is 蠹 read? I can't find it on my dictionaries and google translate doesn't have it either.

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>>19980653
Jisho has it tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980653
のむし

[Anonymous No.]

ピースの角度は30度

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980653
きくいむし

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980653
しみ

[Anonymous No.]

Come to think of it, I remember an anon making this exact same argument here some time back. I can't remember how many new cards/day he was doing (I feel like it was around 35), but his retention was something like 65%, and he was arguing that 65% of what he was doing equated to more information remembered in total than what other people in the thread were doing. Not many people seemed willing to listen though.

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>>19980688
So you're saying I shouldn't be doing 208 cards/day..

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>>19980688
It's pretty simple reasoning really. Probably didn't need an hour of math and spreadsheets, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

I disagree with the compelling content theory. I think you want content just good enough to not bore you but casual conversation is where you're going to actually be learning. I guess it depends on what your goals are but if you plan on going to japan you need conversation.

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>>19980698
>0
I've seen someone do 6K in 12 days before.

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>>19980163
>make your interval modifier 339%
Where does he say that?

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>>19980688
You're probably trying to guess general feelings in a thread based on a few shitposters, because it's not really an insight. It's obvious that 60% of 100 is more than 90% of 60 for example.

[Anonymous No.]

time you spend doing flawed math is time youre not learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

the trick to Anki is that you want to put in as little time as possible for what you get out of it

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>>19980773
This guy gets it.

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>>19980773
So always only hit easy, again, or uninstall?

[Anonymous No.]

my ultimate dream is to take djt down to the river and have a nice flashcard流し where we say goodbye to these foolish flashcards

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

idk I have fun doing Anki and power leveling like goku in the high gravity chamber. I'm spening 6+ hours a day in it and only take breaks so I don't surpass my listening too far.

[Anonymous No.]

except instead of it being the high gravity chamber its a short bus

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>>19980817
lol

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>>19980736
Nevermind, think I found the bit you're referring to:
https://youtu.be/uurlmW96GOg?t=2573

I'm assuming when he says here you "can make the interval modifier 3.4", what he actually means 340% (though his calculation actually shows it should be 339%).

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>>19980801
No way you sustain that, unless you're a mega turbo autist.

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>>19980909
I'm doing the 18 months to fluency the legends spoke of, already finished rtk, 2k core, almost done with 4k, and tae kim. Listening the rest of the day to podcasts, movies on repeat, and jdramas.

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I'm getting pretty sceptical about this interval modifier thing. Assuming I'm understanding it correctly, with the formula Matt provides, >>19980287 and >>19980429 should be able to bump their interval modifiers up to 576% if they're willing to drop their retention down to 70% to pay for it. That's really hard to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

I can pick anki back up and try an interval modifier of like 400% if you guys want to see someone actually try it and see what happens

[Anonymous No.]

upon exiting the flash card chamber 真の姿は・・・

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYmn3Gwn3oI

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980942
retard

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>>19980979
What am I misunderstanding?

In his log (.7) / log (.9) formula, the .7 bit reflects what you're prepared for your retention rate to drop to and the .9 bit reflects what your current retention rate is, right? So in the case of those two you would change the .9 to .94, wouldn't you?

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>>19980956
You need to change your new cards/day setting appropriately using his spreadsheet as well otherwise there's no point.

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てめえの母さんは娼婦でしたね

[Anonymous No.]

lol how does that even happen

[Anonymous No.]

I can't make sense of this in the bottom right panel.
"For example Shibasaki-kun doesn't like animals. (But?) At last there's something you like (so/even though?), What a waste"
I must be understanding this incorrectly, because I can't make sense of this. Why would anyone say this?

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>>19981096
the za nai is like tag questions in english

[Anonymous No.]

ザ・ない

[Anonymous No.]

*zya

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981103
?
What za nai and what's a tag question

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981103
Oh shit now it makes sense.
動物好きじゃない？ As in "you like animals don't you?"
They should've added a damn question mark.

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>>19981137
>They should've added a damn question mark.
Why? Japanese people can understand it fine without one.

[Anonymous No.]

the 例えば turns it into a question

[Anonymous No.]

sorry I meant into a hypothetical not into a question

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>>19981185
>>19981189
Now I don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.]

the only thing more boring than 2 hours of listening practice was when i was doing 3 hours of RTK. holy FUCK this shit sucks. i can see why matt talks about mindfulness because every 10 seconds my brain stops focusing on the audio and thinks about something else, like posting on djt.

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>For example Shibasaki-kun doesn't like animals
No its

"For example Shibasaki-kin don't you like animals?"
Not sure what this is called in english, but like asking a question with a negative.

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>>19981236
>asking a question with a negative
Don't know the context but wouldn't that make it "you don't like animals?"?

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>>19981264
Nah this is how Japanese works. Sure, if it was just "動物好きじゃない" without context you would assume it's "not liking animals".

It would be more clear if she added a sentence ending particle indicating a question like
>"動物好きじゃないの"
or
>"動物好きじゃないか"
However there are not necessary and can just be done with intonation/context. In this case 例えば makes it a question.

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Does matt prove with hard work you can overcome aspergers? And maybe even learn another language. Is that why he has a following? I think smart people could figure out everything he's taught so far innately.. and it did take him 8 years. I think theirs a sort of low key subconcious story happening here.

[Anonymous No.]

Ayo thinking about starting first vn. Can someone recommend some good eroge for beginner.

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>>19981348
http://vmashup.com/2uKSdLWV

[Anonymous No.]

cum syringeが好きなんだがあんまりないジャンルなんだな
他はartificial inseminationでちょっと引っかかるくらい

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlsPyWfYSEU
This dude got conversationally fluent in 4 years he says. He can even write kanji. Then there is that guy who lived in japan for 17 on youtube and he's still totall shit at japanese. I wonder whats so different. Is it just stupid vs smart?

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>>19981348
Kanojo x Kanojo x Kanojo

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>>19981403
no its exposure time and giving a shit vs not

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>>19981348
装甲悪鬼村正
神咒神威神楽
信天翁航海録
紅殻町博物誌
霞外籠逗留記
花散峪山人考

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981403
normie vs autism

[Anonymous No.]

wait, is the function matt said he "created" the one he got from vlad's vlog where vlad discusses the same phenomenon?

[Anonymous No.]

i mean if you just think about the logic it makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

Should I do VN core or 10k for the first ~2000 words before I start reading?
>inb4 why not just learn nihongo

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It's the basis of SRS. This shouldn't be surprising.

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>>19981551
You should read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981551
Start reading immediately and mine instead. If too scared to do that mine Tae Kim's examples for vocabulary as you're reading through it, that's what I did.

[Anonymous No.]

10000 hours of anime or your gay

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>>19981555
I can read through Tae Kim's examples without a problem. Should I really just go straight into reading..?

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>>19980933
If you can truly stick to that I'll be impressed. I tried to go that route and ended up burning out/giving up on nihongo for years before i got over my ego to try again

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>>19981348
Flyable Heart is a good choice. It's almost Hanahira-tier easy, but unlike Hanahira it's actually interesting. That said, just because something is beginner-friendly doesn't mean you should force yourself to read it. If you don't like it, have a dig through VNDB* and see if anything catches your eye. Better to read something a bit harder if that means reading something which is actually compelling content to you.

*Something to bear in mind when using VNDB: >>19705662

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>>19981564
>I can read through Tae Kim's examples without a problem
Like, you understand all the words without referencing the vocabulary? Just go and read, what's your problem.

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>>19981581
Yeah, both the meanings and readings
>what's your problem.
...I guess I'm just scared. I'm gonna go do that now, thanks

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>>19981579
this is the most fucked up post in this entire thread

dont read flyable fuck unless you want to permanently cripple your ability to enjoy hentai games

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>>19981598
I think you're confusing Flyable Heart with Aqua Blue.

[Anonymous No.]

私はゲイから脳力が高いです

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>>19981608
wrongaroo fucko

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>>19981598
fug I was going to read that. why is it bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981579
Flyable Heart is way easier than Hanahira. Short≠easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981623
its fucking gay and not homosexually

[Anonymous No.]

As for me, gay(reason),
brain power is the one that is tall(result)

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>>19981646

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>>19981659
高い also means "high." "Because im gay my brainryoku is high"

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks! I wouldn't have figured it out without your help! :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>19979450
bump this question

[Anonymous No.]

三浦しおんの最高傑作といえばどれですか。

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>>19981689
I'm sure you're being sarcastic but the other day a beginner was confused about the と in と思います so I decided to genuinely answer things even if it's probably someone who knows better acting silly

It's 2018 cynicism and irony are out, being genuine and loving your friends is in

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>>19981230
Listening practice is easy when you are watching something you really want to watch. Unfortunately it is hard to find, and when I do find it, it is often too hard for me and I drop it. If only I could be interested in cute girls doing cute things instead of action and mecha.

>3 hours of RTK
I couldn't do it. I did 1.5 hours of Anki every day for months, but that was my absolute limit, and I couldn't keep it up and quit.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't vns count as listening practice? You can literally close your eyes and try to understand what was said and easily replay the audio if you want, plus the transcription is right there for you.

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>>19981863
with VNs i'm just trying to read and get as much exposure as possible. for listening practice i use other stuff.

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>>19981863
Sure, but the majority of the text in any given VN is not voiced, so it's gonna be irritating as fuck to do properly.

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>>19981863
In the beginning I considered disabling voices because my listening skills were so superior it felt like cheating.

[Anonymous No.]

Anime with English subtitles are better listening practice than anime with Japanese subtitles as long as you actually try to listen to what is said. English subtitles give you hints about what is being said without outright spelling it out.

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>>19981973
that feels like it just makes listening pointless so i don't bother with any subtitles.

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>>19981973
noobs who want to learn japanese will never understand

its only the people who found they could learn japanese as a result of all that time spent watching all that epic naurto that can understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981973
source: my ass

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figures?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0158409

[Anonymous No.]

>>19980203
solid advice

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>>19982026
>as long as you actually try to listen to what is said

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>>19982063
You've never tried doing what you're telling people to.

[Anonymous No.]

what if it's a show i've already watched enough times to basically memorize the dub

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982080
>implying

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>>19982026
better than that shitty paper

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982095
Who are you quoting, /v/?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QPM81oibA
Are japanese really this illiterate of their own language? One japanese native and one fluent half japanese failing miserably on a "kanji test", with some fairly common ones. Even I beat their scores, and I couldn't pass n3.

This is fake right?

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>>19981551
VN core is only 1250 words, If you know a little bit already you can knock it out in a week. It's apretty good set of vocab and super easy, so it wont hurt anything. Mining through foreign sentences too much can ruin the fun imo.

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>>19982104
You.

[Anonymous No.]

I've realized a pretty major oversight in Matt's new video.

He makes the assumption that your daily reviews = 7 * new cards per day, but this estimate is based on people's experiences with the default Anki settings which aim to give you 90% retention. What happens though when your retention falls (i.e. the amount of cards you fail goes up) is that your daily review load goes up accordingly, so by dropping your retention rate a full 20 percentage points from 90% down to 70%, you can expect that your daily reviews will become much more than 7 * new cards per day in the long term.

Speaking of the long term, because he suggests making the interval modifier so high, it will probably take him and his hapless followers quite some time to realize this.

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>>19982106
>>19974519

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>>19982135
Matts whole video is autistic as fuck. Don't try too hard to make sense of it. There's so many variables he doesn't even bring up and he beats to death the one thing thats common sense.

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>>19982141
But how? How can people defend a language that well adjusted adults who speak it natively can't even read it, to the point where they make "contests" to see who can read the most amount of fairly common words?

How is it possible to defend that?

[Anonymous No.]

*dies*

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982159
It's possible if you're not a dirty redditor. Not that you would know that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982135
lol my daily reviews soared way above even 10x new cards per day

[Anonymous No.]

>>19981927
read more moege

[Anonymous No.]

my daily reviews averaged around 130 in the first couple months and 170 in the third month when i was doing 25 new rtk cards a day

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>>19982159
Most well-adjusted adult English natives probably can't spell the word "mellifluous" or tell you what it means. The thing is that it has absolutely no bearing on daily activities. For Japanese in particular you also don't need to know how a word is read to be able to understand its meaning, they might not know how to read 痩身 but obviously they know what it means.

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>rtk

try doing core 6k for three months with only the word on the front

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982313
it's probably a lot easier overall because i'd be more comfortable with lower retention.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah but you get way more reviews

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982311
>薔薇
Even most Japanese would just use the katakana for rose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982327
it'd be offset by the faster reviews+lower retention. in fact overall it'd take me probably half the time factoring in 50%+ more reviews

[Anonymous No.]

i never said anything about your comfort at all.

[Anonymous No.]

but i did because time and comfort is what matters.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a grammar guide for intermediates after learning all of tae kim? For example tae kim doesnt cover how mo can make phrases mean everything or nothing, and I don't think toiu is covered at all. Also how ni can change how a sentence is read and not just be a direction particle.

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>>19982376
Reading and listening.

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>>19982383
I already do that. It's how I know about these concepts already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982358
This isn't about you. It's about Matt's retarded math and invalid assumptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982376
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982376
you didn't learn all of tae kim

[Anonymous No.]

>>19982436
>>19982448
Clueless fags

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>>19982311
>Most well-adjusted adult English natives probably can't spell the word "mellifluous" or tell you what it means
If you watched the videos, you would realize that none of the kanji come close to that level of obscurity. The most obscure one was probably "toxicity", and if we are going by your logic, almost any English speaker, adult or not, could tell you what that means.

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>>19982467
its called japanese resources which a true intermediate should be able to use lmao

youre the clueless fag if you wanna fight bring it