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[Anonymous No.]

overpopulated dojo edition

old: >>20320810

>New? Start here:
https://pastebin.com/RbQDNtmt

>Mods:
http://pastebin.com/HcTtYVsn

>E+ Changelogs:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29

>Elona Custom Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:25014

>Elona+ Custom-G Release Thread:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29336

>Omake Overhaul English Release Thread:
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:28909

>Current Version:
Elona+ 1.84 (11/21/2018)
Elona Omake Overhaul EN (14/09/2018)
>Latest Custom:
E+C 1.84.1 (11/05/2018)
Elona+ Custom-G 1.84.1.3
Omake Overhaul EN Hack 20180914 (09/14/2018)


Errors? Set the compatibility of the .exe to WINDOWS 7.
Using GIMP to create a sprite or PCC? Select "do not write color space" and save it as a 24-bit BMP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20410236
Does that random patch of grass in the bedroom bother anyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20410241
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also, has any of the old mods like the Wild Arms music pack and the monstergirl character pack been updated to work with more current patches?
I went back to my ancient E+ 1.47 install from 2015 because I cba to get those working.

[Anonymous No.]

I am a mutant about to level up. I have all limbs that a normal Yerles would have but I am not sure for what slots I should aim for my last 3 slots.
I have made a prolog file in order to find the best combinations for unique (non-weapon) artifacts and select my next slots based on the results but I am not sure if unique artifacts really matter during the late game. Any suggestions?

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>>20410236
>Elona+ 1.84 (11/21/2018)
1.85 (2018-12-05)
>E+C 1.84.1 (11/05/2018)
1.85.3 (2018-12-12)
>Elona+ Custom-G 1.84.1.3
1.85.1.1 (2018-12-09)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20410874
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20410822
Hands. This is my old gavela rushed mutant, pretty much all hands. Most versatile slot. Very easy to fill it with good shit for defense and offense early on with guaranteed artifacts, objectively the most valuable slot if you are lucky enough to get living weapons.
Insanely broken with continious attacks. Its been a long time since I bothered to play this char, since I got burnt out after making it, but I was happy with the results. You should get about 5 hands. 90 attacks. Ranged. Very nice. Get a wep with timestop and proc it, then use continuous attacks, very very nice. There are even guns which guarantee this. Kill things waaay above your level. Veeery nice. Good fun.
You could also consider stopping at 13 to avoid the complicated body mutation, but its only gonna be like 10% for you, rather than the 50% for me and if need be you can just bandaid it like I did via cores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411129
Thank you very much for your tip!
I thought that finishing the 1st act and getting to the doctor before getting any slots was pretty much impossible, how did you do it? I do not really care about the complicated body thing, I will be using a mount at least until I get to grind my speed stat, I already have the Jure festival bike thing.
Just to make sure, holding weapons will not de not affect my magical abilities, right? This should only be caused by shields and armor as far as I know.
Also, would you happen to know if unique artifacts and armor in general get obsolete by late game by randomly generated artifacts?

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>>20411215
>Just to make sure, holding weapons will not de not affect my magical abilities, right? This should only be caused by shields and armor as far as I know.
Dual wielding, shields, and medium/heavy armor all penalize your casting success rate.

>>20411215
>Also, would you happen to know if unique artifacts and armor in general get obsolete by late game by randomly generated artifacts?
Living weapons invalidate all but a few standart weapons. Standarts generally can't compete godly artifact fusion randarts, but the better ones are good enough.

[Anonymous No.]

What does "modifies hit bonus" mean? Extra hp for the player that has it equipped? Higher hit chance? Something else?

[Anonymous No.]

There are people here that probably already know about this, but I saw it in the code and wanted to share, this is from custom-g but should apply to custom too. Class does indeed make a difference in the potentials gained from sleeping, if I understood this right each class gives a guaranteed 4% potential gain, 2 attributes gaining 2%, except for the Tourist, apparently the Tourist class is the only one that gains 3% and all in one attribute, fucking speed, Tourist is the only class that gains speed potential from sleeping. I'm not sure if speed is a possible potential to be raised at random but Tourist will guarantee 3% raised every time as long as the bed allows potential gain. As you can see skills that you get at character creation receive a bonus too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411572
It's been mentioned a few times in the wiki, but only on comments I think. Someone should probably edit the class page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411129
how do you hit anything without any arm slots with rubynus gloves?

[Anonymous No.]

I wish a hypnotist would be fun to play.
The special abilities are kinda limited, I want to brainwash things into being my meat puppets or even pets, not put them to sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411836
I wish plus had more feats to be honest, all those +stat feats are pure shit and should just be removed. Omake Overhaul has a lot of cool passives, like the weapon traits that give extra effects to weapon types. It's a shame that OO doesn't come with a source file, otherwise I would try to mod in these feats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411215
>I thought that finishing the 1st act and getting to the doctor before getting any slots was pretty much impossible, how did you do it?
Standard tactic is to catch high-level monsters in monster balls and then inherit them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411215
You need to do a very tedious process of running past everything with an overpowered pet and actively going out of your way to lose exp. I can't remember if I killed myself, ate rotten food, or something else. This is because I believe every single class starts with stealth and it WILL level you otherwise. And you need to rush to find many big dads for hp to trade for the parts. It took a long time, hence me getting burnt out after finishing.

I always pick warmage for better cast rate. Since duel wielding does penalize it, for the player. But not for pets.

Living weapons are godlike above everything else. Anything I'm using in that pic that's not in a hand probably has +hits or similar which is hard to get outside of them in those slots.

>>20411825
With continuous attacks I swing enough times I probably don't even get through 1/4 before things die. (Can't remember how many times, or check, since Elona keeps freezing suddenly) On anything tough I can just use timestop ammo for guaranteed timestop. You can't miss during timestop.

[Anonymous No.]

hey hello everyone!

havent been here in a while, how elin doing??

[Anonymous No.]

>>20411505
It's attack accuracy. Elona's equipment fundamentally works the same way most roguelikes do. A piece of equipment's stats are set up something like this:

2d6 (11,12) [13,14]

The 2d6 is a weapon's damage dice. When you attack the game rolls two 6-sided dice and uses that as your base damage (which is then modified by various skills, enchantments, etc). So for 2d6 the minimum damage is 2 and the maximum damage is 12, and the average is 7.

The numbers in parentheses are attack modifiers, the first one is the hit bonus and the second is the damage bonus. So the item in our example above would have a +11 enchantment to accuracy and +12 to damage.

The numbers in the brackets are defense modifiers. The first one is your DV and the second is your PV. So the item in the example would give a +13 bonus to your chance to dodge and a +14 bonus to your damage reduction.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna play a sorcerer (kinda like a witch), with a scythe as a close range weapon. Do I need staves for casting? If so, do I put the staff in my 2. hand slot or into the shooting slot? My damage is absolute ass in close range. I took Farmer to get a headstart on the scythe. In terms of casting, some small, basic things work. Any tips? I havent played in a really long while

[Anonymous No.]

>>20414189
You don't strictly need staves, but you want weapons with the "enhances your spells" enchantment and generally you find that on staves. Zeome's scythe of void is an alright spell enhancer, so you could shoot for that. Stuff like the vital flayer (E+ only) is much better though. SoV in your weapon hand and VF in your throwing slot might work. I'm not sure if spell enhancement shows up on living weapons, but if it does then a living scythe would work as well as anything else.

As far as your damage goes, if you dual wield, keep your main hand weapon no higher 4s weight and your off hand no higher than 1.5s. Two handing a scythe will help your damage and accuracy as long as it weighs more than 4s, which most scythes will. For casting you want to specialize in a small number spells, probably best to focus on magic dart right now. Your equipment affects your casting chances, you get a penalty for dual wielding, shields, medium armor, and heavy armor, so ideally you will want to two hand a scythe and keep your equipment's total weight at or below 15s. Riding penalizes your casting chance so you may want to avoid that as well. Once you win your first business card in a casino, you should change your class to warmage as that class will give you +5% to your casting success rate. Type it in all lower case: "warmage"

Using two completely different sources of damage is never going to be optimal, but as long as you're willing to grind a bit more than a pure caster there's no reason why it shouldn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20414620
Thank you kindly for that in depth answer friend

[Anonymous No.]

How did she got to be a goddess with such low brain cells?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20414794
Where did you get her picture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20414870
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

Is the maid mansion a noob trap? i feel like 2M gold is too much for a simple place to drop things off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415031
>2 mil isn't pocket change

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>>20415031
No, 2M shouldn't be a huge amount by act 2. Farm grand leach eggs in a ranch with a high cook skill and you'll pull in more than that each week.

>>20414794
As kumiromi says, she didn't used to be like that. Apparently something horrible happened in the past. Also, deities are based on raw power, not smarts. That's more of a modern revision as humans started valuing smarts more over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415031
It's the only way to have a second house, and the maids offer useful services.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415097
Such as?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415152
Training, wizard, inspecting your party members, and bartender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415179
So,vernis? plus vernis has shena

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415185
Sure. A second vernis on the south continent you own with maids.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20414875
Her avatar I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415207
There's always next time for goddess pussy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415273

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>>20415031
It gives you a statue that generates money every day for free and sometimes platinum coins/medals, so it's definitely worth getting just for that. Just place it at the entrance of your house and use it whenever you come in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415793
At a few thousand a pop, it'll take some thousands of days to turn a profit. The plat and medals are nice, but quite rare.

The picnic baskets are the better deal, in my opinion. You can use the excess large baskets to make your own later, and never need pot of pots again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20415031
No, kinda. Its a trap only specifically if you are a noob. If you are not, you buy it because money has no real value. I don't consider any of its features worth caring about, but I buy it anyways, simply because I have no reason not to

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416094
Being able to recall near Arcbelc is worth 2m in my book.

[Anonymous No.]

I need a opinion,what bell/quickling pet should i get for lv30-60? my gameplan usually goes like this

Early game:quickling archer
Mid game:??? (need opinion here)
Late game:Bell of termination

would a grass dancer do the trick?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416136
doesn't really matter, hp can now be bought with hp, they are functionally identical

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416262
Termination got 2000 speed and fast pets dont really gain Ap at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416281
Get some hero chesses with little sisters or music tickets. I did that with my projet and now she became the main character and I am only there to heal/buff her

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416281
They literally gain double the players AP from all sources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416361
Yeah, but:
>INI 1674/2000

[Anonymous No.]

How do i unmark it? i wanna drop this thing and it doesnt show up in my inventory

[Anonymous No.]

>>20416434
* in examine menu

[Anonymous No.]

would you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20417856
Post source

[Anonymous No.]

>>20417893
pixiv

[Anonymous No.]

So did someone ever checked the code and saw if its possible to get 100% etherwind resist with Elea race,shena panty,Vindale cloak and hero cloak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20418089
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Etherwind#Elona.2B_.281.26.2C_presumably_earlier_versions.29
tl;dr: No. Elfs get less corruption, but never zero. Etherwind resistance items reduces chance of corruption, but not to zero. Multiple items don't stack.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a true final 'bonus boss' on this game? any enemy stronger than the inner gods? not counting void as those are repeats

[Anonymous No.]

>>20417856
pls be boi nips

[Anonymous No.]

>>20419593
You're the final boss.
The true enemy
The one you must slay is your weak self
grind everything to 9999 anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>20419690
>grind everything to 9999 anon
The true path to enlightenment is to recompile the game after removing any skill caps.
It's actually extremely easy to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20419797
slow brainer here,what does this mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20419895
To remove the caps you just need to erase the 9999 from any limit lines. If you meant recompiling you can google it there's a wiki thread, and download the custom g version there's a simple guide in the readme of that.

[Anonymous No.]

Can a big daddy be selected as the dungeon boss?

[Anonymous No.]

To this day,two years after discovering this game and i still havent gotten a statue of ehekatl,what i am doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

so the best way to pimp a pet is giving it "It enhances metabolism" gear and stuffing it down with herbs?

[Anonymous No.]

Are wizards and golems still excellent years later?

[Anonymous No.]

An alien race with impregnation skill would be pretty neat,as long as they arent aggresive towards you

[Anonymous No.]

Do i need to change the order of this?

[Anonymous No.]

I tried this game months ago. I ran into dungeons and died dozens of times and accidentally attacked some people in town and then stopped playing. Is this a normal first experience? People seem to be having so much fun with the game so I wish I could get it too

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425438
>accidentally attacked some people in town
You don't just accedentally attack someone, you psycho

[Anonymous No.]

>>20419593
Gwen the pitiless

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425398
I think you could change the Shadow Step distance from 2 to 1 and it should be perfect. If that gives errors or something, try doing it this way instead:
>Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
>Target Distance < 6: Shadow Step
>Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)
That's always worked without fail for me.

>>20425438
>Is this a normal first experience?
Sounds about average. Stay out of dungeons until you and your little girl are properly equipped. Your medium-term goal should be to get married so that if you stop playing again, your future characters can inherit stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425597
Is this a bad setting?

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>>20425660
It's definitely suboptimal. Instead of thinking in terms of target distance, you need to think in terms of condition probability. There are three conditions you're trying to cover:
-the target is distant and Shadow Step is available
-the target is distant and Shadow Step is unavailable
-the target is adjacent
Remember, Custom AI goes from top to bottom and executes the first valid line it finds. For example, you could have three or four different actions set to trigger on "Target Distance = 1", and it'd just check them in order and use the first available one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425529
I remember clicking a button and my guy would automatically throw a pebble or something at a stranger

>>20425597
Thanks, I'll probably try again soon and do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425732
Oh,very well,my like of thinking was

>its too far? teleport to it
>moves away? chase it
>once conditions are met,attack

yours sounds more logical

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425817
You probably had a rock equipped, also since you didn't get a message warning you about the action you probably just killed a bard or a begger alas nothing of importance was lost

[Anonymous No.]

I cant get past this mission on the main quest,did i broke something?

I could already enter the abyss princess castle without beating the nine heads,i never got the option to take me there and do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20426105
Shit nevermind i am retarded,i never entered larna after being transported i always used scroll of return in the wilderness tile right beside it

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425438
>Is this a normal first experience?
Yup! Your character is pretty pathetic to start out and you'll want to be cautious for a little while. Probably the most important thing to helping a brand new character is PV (ie armor).

When you make a new character you can select 3 feats, and a few of them give you useful, 100% accurate attacks that can also help to get you off the ground. Hypnotist is a weak attack that never misses and inflicts sleep on anything not immune. Sleeping enemies can't dodge, so your little girl can finish them off once you use hypnosis. Vampiric ability will give you an unavoidable, weak life draining ability which can also be very useful when your accuracy is garbage. If you're playing Elona Plus you can also take strings assassin which gives you an unavoidable attack with high damage and the ability to set traps on the ground. Taking more than one of these is redundant, but any one of them will help immensely in getting off the ground. As for other feats, exorcist is an extremely good quality of life option. Dimensional move helps a ton if you're getting killed at the start, but some people recommend against it since there are spells and items that replicate the same effect. I'd say 100% take dimensional move in vanilla Elona and Elona Plus since there aren't many valuable feats, but consider taking something else in Omake Overhaul Elona where there are tons of extremely powerful feats.

The fairy, golem, and mutant races are all bad choices for a beginner. Yerles is a good all-rounder. I always go with Juere for the convenience factor, but Yerles is absolutely more powerful.

Beyond that just don't bite off more than you can chew. A new character is better off doing safe jobs at the help wanted board rather than hitting dungeons right away. If you do visit dungeons, make sure they're only level 1 or 2 and expand gradually. The puppy cave near Vernis is a guaranteed level 2 dungeon that regenerates every time you visit and is a good place to gather basic equipment. Watch out for kobolds as they inflict dim status and can easily kill you. Also be aware that since floors regenerate in the puppy cave, anything you leave behind is lost forever. This includes items dropped when you die.

[Anonymous No.]

I did anons! my pet finally soloed enthumesis!

As a reward i cooked it corpse and fed it to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>20426283
I played Elona Plus. I'll save your reply for later, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>20425438
It is indeed your typical experience starting out. I ended up with a stupid OP gun and steamrolled the rest of the game with it.

[Anonymous No.]

Does a potion of descent have any use whatsoever? Any benefit to keeping my level low beyond random encounters?

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>>20429485
If a high-stats mob is the same level as your pet, you can use a potion to reduce your pet's levels by one and splice the mob into your pet. Repeat as many times as needed, or until you run out of potions.

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>>20429485
Bless a potion of descent and drink it to gain a level for more hp and skill points. Drink potions of descent to keep the level scaling under control in vanilla Elona. Give potions of descent to a newly-obtained pet so they gain more feats in Omake Overhaul Elona. They're pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

The cucumber maneki isn't actually all that difficult to defeat, it just takes forever to whittle down its health.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20431043
Annoyingly enough the bastard thing quickly killed my magicargot pet before it finally died.

[Anonymous No.]

how rare are skeleton keys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20432044
The E+ fixedart? Very. If you found it, you're lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20432130
No i am trying to find one,dungeon diving lv200+ things

[Anonymous No.]

Worship ehekatl or yacatect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20432134
If you haven't already, you might want to check with Melget to see if an NPC adventurer found it. Custom translated her several versions ago.
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Melget_the_informer

[Anonymous No.]

>>20432181
Oh shit i didnt knew this was a thing,thanks a bunch anon

sadly the only things all had were statues of creator,if only there was a deliberate way to get rid of adventurers

[Anonymous No.]

JUST ANSWER ME

[Anonymous No.]

Can I refill wells with pee?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20432811
gotchu senpai

[Anonymous No.]

I just discovered that i can make my pet use knockout instead of melee attack and last hit/monster ball the enemy for easier training

i am so fucking retarded for not seeing it before

[Anonymous No.]

>>20433077
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20433571
Custom AI, duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>20433005
>106

[Anonymous No.]

What game mode do you guys play at? Be honest. I honestly always want to play on essential but I just don't have the patience to grind anymore, so I end up playing overdose every time. And I feel that some skills have very low effect per level, which makes them quite a bit shittier in comparison since they need high levels to be noticeable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20433005
>Duties and content

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>>20435329
i have always played on overdose anon,its a single player game nobody gives a putit what you are doing as long as you are having fun

[Anonymous No.]

whos your waifu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20435329
Loss, and I self-impose ironman and permadeath rules outside of Plus. I know Elona's not really made for it, but I've played so many "real" roguelikes that it feels wrong to keep going after I die.

[Anonymous No.]

At what martial arts level should i stop using claws/tonfas to get the multi attack bonus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436190
How many +attack fixedarts do you have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436222
1 proximity assist weapon and 1 extra attack chance on weapons

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436269
>1 proximity assist weapon
Proximity assist is its own system, completely unrelated to the normal extra attack system.
>1 extra attack chance
Since you've only got the one, I'll assume it's the Twin Edge? With 600 enchant power, increasing the limit from 3 to 7 possible extra attacks would increase your average damage by about 1.9%. Personally, I wouldn't worry about it until you've gotten at least one more extraattack fixedart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436537
its from the smash tonfa

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436558
Well, that's only half the power of the Twin Edge. Still, if you can get the Smash Tonfa, you could probably get the Twin Edge and Cestus of Meteors. With those three items equipped, going barehanded would increase your average damage by about 31%.

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>>20436718
Do i just remove her tonfas then? ignore the mechanical binder as i am still trying to find a good body armor equip

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god what the fuck is up with happy bed drops in 1.85+. I just had 4 drop in the span of a minute, on the same floor. Two of them dropped directly one after another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436785
Update, it's 6 beds now.

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>>20436793
Wow anon you should worship ehekatl

IF ONLY SHE GAVE ME A STATUE OF HER

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436785
>>20436793
Probably because monster races depend on dungeon type so it's easier to find lots of fairies now.

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>>20436749
>Do i just remove her tonfas then?
That'd probably work fine. Replacing the Zweibel with the Smash Tonfa in the Shoot slot would increase your extra attack chance a bit, but I'm not sure it'd be worth losing the Zwiebel's critrate boost.

[Anonymous No.]

Dubs decided the race/class I'm rolling.
I'm a beginner, so please nothing too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20437123
Elea farmer

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>>20436843
An occasional +77 to luck is really not that useful. If you need to open a chest or something you can get +100 from blessed food, and if you really need to maximize your rewards from gambling or treasure chests or whatever, you'll want to wait for a lucky day's +777 boost.

>>20437123
Juere Warmage

[Anonymous No.]

>>20437123
Golem Pianist

[Anonymous No.]

>>20437206
I just want it for bragging rights and autism

is there any english guide to make custom NPC enemies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20436793
Update: I just got two lucky days in a row. I think a higher power might be at work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20437572
JUST FUCK EHEKATL AT THIS POINT ANON,ITS A SIGNAL

[Anonymous No.]

Completely new to this.
Is this game really as insane as memetubers make it sound?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438402
On a first glance it is, but everything has its logic and you'll get used to it.

[Anonymous No.]

why are lightsabers good exactly? they look weak compared to some late game drop weapons like the white hawk or moonlight

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438517
They always have 100% pierce. The damage they deal is always the damage you'll get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438531
Then why bother using their lower dice damage roll over higher rolls?

[Anonymous No.]

SHE CAN CLONE HERSELF?

[Anonymous No.]

I miss OP anon,anyways,can rocks/shurikens actually have good enchantments?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438543
The other anon just told you. The fact that their damage isn't reduced by armor means lightsabers ultimately do more damage than other weapons.

>>20438654
>I miss OP anon,anyways,can rocks/shurikens actually have good enchantments?
Yeah. In particular, living rocks and shurikens in Elona Plus can get enchantments just as ridiculously good as any other weapon. But they're still E+ ranged weapons so their damage will never be good. They make fine resistance stat sticks though.

I don't know how good throwing weapons are in late game vanilla Elona, but hypnosis + grenades are one of the most powerful early game options. All weapon types can be made good in Omake Overhaul, though I have no idea how throwing competes with the other options.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438547
What on earth made you think you could take God inside Ehekatl with 6000 hp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438710
My pet did the fighting,i just cheered her

I WANTED TO TRY ANON!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20435493
Yaksha. She looks really nice in that artsyle

>>20435329
The default one. I usually just play this game for like a month once a year but its cozy month

[Anonymous No.]

Whats usually the best item to use for artifact fusion and what enchantments should i put on it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438775
Make a full set of randart gear that resists everything, then make a gene file so your future characters can inherit endgame-tier equipment.

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>>20438775
Any item you plan to use forever, so probably whatever your best item is. Elemental damage (probably just magic element) is good on weapons, though a living weapon is almost as good as an AF weapon and consumes considerably fewer resources. Elemental resists are good on everything else. If your resists are in order then just do whatever.

This is assuming E+. I haven't tried artifact fusion in OO, but I hear you can stack "chance to nullify damage" enchantments until you have a 100% chance to nullify anything whatsoever.

Does anyone know if putting elemental damage on a claw or tonfa gives you elemental martial arts?

[Anonymous No.]

how is the value of meat/eggs calculated? anyone has a formula? what's the best pet for ranching?

I had a ranch full of chickens when I killed Zeom, and in three years they produced literally thousands of eggs. Too bad they're fairly worthless to me at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20438775
the best item is a godly item that has less than 500~600 points of enchant already on it after you have turned it raw using a material kit. alternatively, a godly weapon with a proc and very little else.

best enchant for armor: ~6 levels of each non-magic resistance, 30~40 levels of resist magic, every single immunity, resistance vs bleeding, see invisible, protection against mutation, protection against aliens, 1500 points of enhanced spells, then situational stuff depending on what your primary damage is (e.g. interlock shooting, absolute pierce, extra attacks, +skill, etc.)

If you have points left over after getting all of the above, dump it in extra magic resistance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20439976
oh, also extra fire resistance is handy if you want to play with Meteor.

[Anonymous No.]

E+ question: Was Sense Quality recently changed somewhat? Sometimes I'd pick up already identified potions, books, scrolls and rods in dungeons, and after some time the unidentified stuff (read: NOT equips) I carry becomes identified, even crap like cards/figurines/trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20435493
Searching for Kumiromi and not finding her made me realize she isn't a girl.

I didn't know after all this time. If I knew, I would've liked her more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20439991
Yeah. It does that now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20439942
>Does anyone know if putting elemental damage on a claw or tonfa gives you elemental martial arts?
I'm pretty sure you can't put elemental damage enchantments on them. Or procs like Gravity Sphere, for that matter.

>>20439991
>Was Sense Quality recently changed somewhat?
If by "recently" you mean "last year", then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20440877
>If by "recently" you mean "last year", then yes.
The absolute state of the wikia. There isn't even info about what shit you can dig/mine in the new Nefia dungeon types (lake/mine/grave/nest)

[Anonymous No.]

>>20441092
Not to mention, little boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>20439976
Isnt there a cap for resist? doesnt usually having superb+ makes adding any more useless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20440150
Doesnt matter,all the gods are useless compared to him

at least the ratio is balanced with 4 male gods and 4 female gods

[Anonymous No.]

i cant find any beetles anywhere :*(
theyre not in nefia, low level hunting quests, world map, nowhere

[Anonymous No.]

What's a better way of getting my fishing up other than spam fishing in my house?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20442140
Get to act 2, buy the win rod, spam fishing in your house with it.
You literally can do nothing but spam it or put your bonus points in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20442293
Alright thanks anon, just wanted to make sure i wasn't wasting time spam fishing.

[Anonymous No.]

Getting back into the game, what version should I play if I played a shit ton of E+ and got burned out two years ago, updated E+ or Omake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443179
Start with Omake Overhaul ENhack. If you end up hating the platinum grind, try Custom-G instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443179
Not much reason to play Omake when Omake Overhaul is available. Elona+ Custom-G is overall the most recommendable version of E+ too. Anyway, here's the basics of each:

E+ has:
Much faster character growth
Normal enemies that go up to level 200 (scaling enemies go higher)
A three act story, with each act having its own towns, quests, bosses, etc.
Learning skills is fast and easy and the game rewards you for learning everything
Balance that strongly favors martial arts and magic. Dual wielding is kinda bad and ranged weapons are garbage.
Living weapons are extremely powerful to the point of rendering other weapons pointless for much of the game
Killing strong enemies awards a resource called AP which can, among other things, permanently increase your speed and health. AP makes early game pets viable for a whole playthrough and makes the riding skill far less important
An annoying thirst system with pissing mechanics (removed in E+C-G, carrying a magaqua in your inventory also prevents you from becoming thirsty in regular E+)
Lots of unique items and they're generally easy to obtain come midgame, so you don't need to be very reliant on random drops
Monsters in towns despawn over time so you can't mess things up as bad as you can in vanilla, for better or worse
Changing item materials and enchanting equipment are easy and relatively cheap. It's easy to get basic equipment together at the start
Late game you can add new enchantments to items, making it easier to get a full set of resistances and anything else you need

Omake Overhaul has:
Slower character growth, similar to vanilla Elona
One act, same as vanilla Elona
Normal enemies go up to level 50 (scaling enemies go higher)
More random quests and encounters with various NPCs
Adventurers are far more significant. They appear occasionally in dungeons and have much stronger equipment than in vanilla or E+. Eventually a rival adventurer will arrive who becomes more powerful every time she is defeated
Learning skills is slow and expensive and you're better off not learning skills that won't be useful to your build
You can found your own town and recruit NPCs to live in it
Grindy and powerful equipment crafting system
A ton of new, powerful feats for different character builds
Extremely powerful spellmaking system available in the mage guild
Food can be blessed by the gods, and blessed foods greatly increases pets' stats and potentials. Blessed food makes it easy for early game pets to keep up late game, though it has very little effect on the player
Balance that strongly favors magic and weapons. Ranged weapons are better than in vanilla and E+. Martial arts are usable but you're putting in extra work for inferior results
Equipment in the deep void and high-end player-crafted equipment are absolutely monstrously strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>20442140
You could get a book of fishing and read that in Noyel or something. The E+ super lure will make the actual fishing go much faster if you need Ehekatl favor, but I don't believe it's any good for training the skill.

>>20443179
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention but if you go with Omake Overhaul, the EN hack version is overall preferable. It's a bunch of optional, mostly convenience features like faster material gathering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443386
Reminder ENhack has a custom balance menu. You can just increase the Platinum gain if you find it too grindy. EXP modifier and other stuff too if you find it too slow. My only problem with Omake Overhaul is the lack of high level shit like plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443470
Somehow I forgot one of the most important changes in Omake Overhaul: random dungeons are massively improved. Monsters of different types infight with each other and different dungeons have their own special gimmicks like dungeons where NPCs of different religions fight to the death, dark dungeons, no-magic and magic-only dungeons, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443566
>My only problem with Omake Overhaul is the lack of high level shit like plus.
Same. Mechanically I think it's almost a straight upgrade over E+, but after you beat Zeome there's nothing to do but grind the void forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>Teleport out of dungeon after killing boss
>It deletes my zombies
>All of them
>They're just gone, none of them died, there are no coffins, they simply do not exist anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443663
>Mechanically I think it's almost a straight upgrade over E+
I feel the same way, besides the lack of high level enemies the only thing that I think would be nice to add is more Special Actions, I really like that Plus added a lot of them, they also make fights more interesting and I think you could go even further by making every skill have at least one special action at lv 50 and another one at 100 to give some nice stuff to look forward to.when leveling up. I really like that some skills give spacts in plus but it feels off when some have them and some don't.

[Anonymous No.]

Does each god have a personal 'uber' follower/pet? i cant seem to find the mani one,example

Opatos-Urcaguary
Izpalt-Sophia
Lulwy-Arasiel
Yacatect-Karavika
Jure-Rovid
Ehekatl-Frisia
Kumiromi-Amurdad
Mani-???

[Anonymous No.]

>>20445453
Garziem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443593
A shame you have absolutely no control on the spawning of these and half of them do not have rewards worth caring about.

[Anonymous No.]

Will Elona work on my grandmas laptop? It has 1.5GHz proc and 992 mb ram

[Anonymous No.]

So should i reset the AP of a pet like a bell ASAP or can be done anytime? what if i already used hero cheese/herbs on her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443892
For me, what's just as important as its high level enemies is the way that E+ awards you with new items and mechanics as you progress. Like how you get the AP system and the awesome swimsuit after Zeome and artifact fusion after Meshera Alpha. It gives you a goal to work towards.

As for special actions, I feel that E+ is too bloated. I wouldn't be against more special actions than vanilla and OO have and some of E+'s special actions improve the game by a lot - knockout and call familiar are great. But in E+ you wind up with like 4 pages of special actions, many of obsolete standard actions (eg. ensemble, reading party), and many of which are situational or scale up badly.

>>20446532
Yeah but in the worst case scenario you play a normal dungeon and you're no worse off. And even the ones without good rewards can be a fun change of pace. A bigger problem is that most of them don't scale up past level 50 very well, and then all there is to do is hit the void where you don't get any of those special rules or rewards. Omake Overhaul could really use something like Elona+'s black gem.

[Anonymous No.]

If all I want are music tickets, would sexy dance be better than ensemble? Or does the fact that ensemble adds multiple party members' skills together make it the better choice long-term?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20447164
Sexy Dance is fast, but low-power. Good for low-level crowds. Ensemble takes a while, but is high-power. Good for high-level crowds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20447164
Generic playing music with stradi gets me them faster, but I only hve one pet. Ensemble takes far too long

[Anonymous No.]

Do pets have an AP gain limit like the player?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20443807
Do you had the DD cementery key in inventory?

[Anonymous No.]

what sort of limbs does a mutant caster want?

[Anonymous No.]

what does 'Chara quality up' do exactly? wiki page tends to leave some details off

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448117
Your pet's character data has a value called CDATA_QUALITY. It sets that value to 4, aka FIX_QUALITY_GODLY. This has a wide variety of beneficial effects on pets:
-75% chance to avoid negative hexes, duration reduced by 80% if not avoided (except for Death Word)
-Level-based random chance to avoid blindness, confusion, paralysis, MPoison, poison, sleep, fear, and dim
-Bleeding is reduced by 80%
-Sanity damage is reduced by 50%
-Increased chance to resist paralysis/wince/chills from lightning/fire/ice damage
-0.1% passive chance per turn to recover from anorexia, vomiting, or drunkenness
-Does not take damage from having cursed equipment (not sure whether or not this is the blood-drinking)
-Unaffected by the Touch of Weakness and Memory Poison special actions, stats are also not lowered by the effect of Formless Fetter, Misteltein, or a High Potion of Disaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448479
The short version is that it gives a pet resistances like those special enemies whose names are written like <this>. It's worth getting but I'd prioritize speed and the barrier feat above it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448479
That means that once you get that on a pet you can ditch all its status effect inmunity gear and focus on something else? sounds too good for 1000 AP

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448584
Whats the pet speed cap with AP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448479
>More pet bias
finna play OO boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>20447936
Yea. They came back next time I played the game after I made a new zombie, put it in the key, then took it out. So apparently they just won't displaying properly. Doubly weird since I never retrieved them and put them in the key, the coffins were just in it all of a sudden

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448051
Weapons. For everything. You want to be tanky? Weapons. You want to be a mage? Weapons. Its always weapons. So hands. Weapons can get + spell damage, + resist and immunities, all on the same weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448608
500 in act 2 and 800 in act 3. I usually get their speed to ~300, then get barrier, then get chara quality up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448788
>800
Was it worth trading 1200 Speed in exchange for gaining AP? my pet was a bell of termination

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448797
Depends on what you want. A bell with barrier and life boosting from AP will be indestructible, but losing 60% speed obviously hurts a lot. For a bell of termination I'd personally rather load them up with rubynus equipment instead of resetting them for AP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448829
Fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448843
If you're in it for the (very) long haul resetting is the right choice. You can eventually get that speed back but you can't get a lot of the good stuff from AP anywhere else. And getting 300 life's worth of hero cheese doesn't sound much better than 1200 speed's worth of speed uppers and hermes blood. And hey, act 4 is coming, maybe there'll be a new speed cap.

[Anonymous No.]

I updated Elona after putting it off but i can't get the music from chinese anon's pack to work anymore, someone help me out?

[Anonymous No.]

Have any of y'all tried the partial translation of oomsest? How is its South Tyris content?

[Anonymous No.]

>Hurr durr how i shut down buttons in a game with retardedly strong pushblock

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448608
800

[Anonymous No.]

>>20410236
The google drive link for E+ is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>20449798
Water is wet

[Anonymous No.]

I think throwing cursed whiskey as someone suggested isnt working

Sweets of the witch did stalled him some turns but those are limited amounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>20450255
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>20449848
Oh fuck i didnt check the bloodyshade link before hand, im a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>20450264
Pretty sure the old drugging and overdose methods don't work anymore thanks to nerfing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20448738
That's the main point of the DD key, it just also acts as a storage container. Zombies don't actually follow you from map to map, you have to manually retrieve them and drag the coffins around. Then redeploy them on the next map. The DD key automates this process.

However, if your inventory is full, such as after a dungeon run, you'll not have the inventory space. The DD key will then attempt to store the zombies in itself. This can be a problem. For instance if you die to Zeome and have a full Inventory and dd key so it can't store the zombies. They'll stay on the map with Zeome, which resets every time you visit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20450388
Could a horde of pets with shena panty pelt him to death perhaps? they only turn to stardust if the PC has two right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20451872
No, it's the PC or any pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20451889
To clarify, fixedart equipment specifically turns into stardust when added to the player's inventory while already carried by the player or a party member, or while already present in the player's vicinity (the current map).

[Anonymous No.]

><Rovid> is very protective of Jure, and will voice complaints (or completely stop) various actions (kissing, squeezing, marriage, impregnation, brushing, sleep sharing) when they are done to/with her if they are both on the same map. These lines appear only as "Action was arrested by Rovid!" under the English settings.

thats creepy,now i know what to aim for when i get to level 176

[Anonymous No.]

does a single "protects you from ether disease" counteracts a ether weapon fastening effect? say shena panty countering railgun negative effect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20451889
Fill home with prostitutes,and wait until two gods duke it out and pick the loot of the loser?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20452501
It does not counter completely iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

what is the diference between custom and custom-g? sorry im new to this game

[Anonymous No.]

>>20456289
Elona Vanilla is the original game. Elona+ is the fork that was updated after that. Elona Custom is basically +, but translated to English. Custom-G takes Custom and tweaks some of the things that were introduced in +.

[Anonymous No.]

Do living claws count as weapons or armor in E+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20457455
I'm pretty sure it's impossible for living claws to exist.

[Anonymous No.]

A pet no matter the INI will eventually gain AP from the void right? if things like this start to appear i mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>20441258
technically there is a cap, but it's very high. If you have high enough magic resist eventually the shitty arithmetic engine the game uses will round the damage multiplier down to zero, and you become completely immune. You can definitely stack it way above superb+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20458564
I just stopped at superb+ mark,didnt found a reason to add more

[Anonymous No.]

>>20456289
E+ Custom is an english fan translation of Elona+ with a few optional additions like customizing ally AI. E+ Custom-G is a mod of E+C that makes a few changes, mostly removing unpopular recent additions to Elona+ like thirst and pissing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460624
>thirst and pissing

Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? Not enough micromanagement for their severe autism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20461009
What I heard was that some friend of Ano's wanted it. Although I can't imagine why he agreed to actually add it...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20464513
If there's one thing I know about Ano it's that he loves his bloat.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Arbalest still drop from Rogue Archers?
I've been trying to get it for quite a while, pretty sure I've killed over 1K of them, but it has yet to drop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20460624
>pissing
Wait, that was added too? I thought it was just the thirst mechanic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20466405
Could anyone confirm or deny? I'm at 2K kills now and I really want to know if I am wasting my time or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467174
There's a "marking" special action which increases your thirst and generates urine on the ground. Characters may also piss involuntarily from being hit with a body blow or inflicted with fear after drinking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20467250
They should still drop from rogue archers. I think it generates when the rogue archer spawns so if you're save scumming the same archer you're wasting your time.

[Anonymous No.]

Any way to prevent taking naps in the world map? Annoying that I'm missing out on proper sleep and breakfast.

[Anonymous No.]

So does this mean dominate more necro dancers? Or will this cap out before i hit my ally cap?

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here, just trying to understand something. So because Custom-G is 1.85.1 and Custom is 1.85.4, I can't install Custom-G until it's updated to match Custom, right?

And to install them I just drag the folder into Elona+'s folder? There's an image talking about compiling shit in the folder for Custom, and no mention of that on either the pastebin or the Elona+Custom release page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20472010
>I can't install Custom-G until it's updated to match Custom, right?
The last few Custom releases didn't make any changes to the game itself (just more improvements to the source code and backporting a couple fixes from Custom-G), so the current release of Custom-G should've worked with them. I had no idea 1.85.4 was out, though. (When is BloodyShade going to make a new release thread? The old one hit its post limit...)
Glancing at the source code, I _think_ 1.85.1.1 would still work on top of 1.85.4, but I remember reading that the next Custom release was going to fix a few outstanding bugs, so I'll start working on 1.85.4.1 right away to incorporate the fixes. Hopefully I'll be able to implement a "don't take naps while traveling" gameplay tweak while I'm at it.
>There's an image talking about compiling shit in the folder for Custom
That's mostly for people who want to mod the game themselves. I want to save future modders the trouble I went through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20472307
Oh, okay. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

So uh, all I did was unzipped Elona Plus, then copied Elona Plus Custom into the folder, overwriting when prompted. I'm running in compatibility mode for Win7, and I can get in-game just fine, but opening my journal crashes the game.

Also, after the journal crashed the game, my custom music stopped working.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20473596
>the journal crashed the game
https://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29336
>1.85.4.1 is out. Changelog:
>Fixed the journal entry for Miles Traveled checking "gdata()" instead of "gdata(GDATA_FLAG_MILES_TRAVELLED)"[...]

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't played this game since last year, what changed?

[Anonymous No.]

Any reason why i cant summmon lulwy in truce ground? i got 4800 favor and when i try praying in november she doesn't appear,i already got all her other rewards

[Anonymous No.]

>>20473916

now you can drink piss and get addicted to smoking

[Anonymous No.]

Etherwind stopped appearing in my game what the fuck did i broke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20474451
you can only summon one god per november.

[Anonymous No.]

I have been experimenting with the ranch mechanic a bit, and here's what I have found.

1. You can raise the weight of your ranch animals with animal feed. How much weight is gained is dependent on the +'s on the feed.
The most economical way to make animal feed is farm rice -> onigiri -> feed, since that gets you a large number of +'s.

Unfortunately, increasing the weight of pets only increases the meat value. Egg value is unchanged. Also the weight doesn't pass on to its offspring. Considering how much work it is to make the feed, in all I feel it's a waste of time.

2. Chickens breed fast and will get you massive amounts of eggs, in the thousands. They don't sell for much (at least, not relative to the work of cooking), but you can use it for cooking training. dump the results in your shop.

3. far as I can tell, best money making from ranch is eggs rather than meat/milk. Specifically, indigo lobster eggs. A good breeding animal is one that weighs a lot and has high breeding power. The indigo lobster seems to be optimal in this respect. Lobster eggs weigh 100s each, so careful you don't get crushed.

4. there is no need to keep a breeder around after a ranch is full. Either start a new ranch or disown the pet, to keep the pet count down.

5. The optimal number of animals per ranch depends on breed power - chickens will tolerate overcrowding, but something with low BP will breed super slow in overcrowded conditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20474885
do wishes count towards that total? i summoned ehekatl to get her on my home on a earlier month

[Anonymous No.]

>>20474945
dunno. I suppose the way to find out is to wait a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20474734
Nevermind i am an idiot,with opatos slow ass boots days past so fast that etherwind sometimes just gets downright skipped,literally one day every 2 steps at 10 speed

[Anonymous No.]

Did you decorate for the holidays jaypea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20476317
I dont have the creative drive to decorate or change my home i just throw things around,i am even considering finally buying the palace deed after i get kumi in to have all the gods at my house

[Anonymous No.]

Any reason why he spawned with a love potion?

[Anonymous No.]

HELLO? WHAT?

[Anonymous No.]

Next OP needs to update the URL for Custom's release thread (BloodyShade had to make a new one since the old one hit the post limit):
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:29851
Also, Custom 1.85.5 is out. Anyone who ran into the journal crash problem playing 1.85.4 should upgrade, because 1.85.5 was released specifically to fix it. (The only other changes it makes are removing the duplicate code for gaining Smile Field and renaming GDATA_FLAG_MILES_TRAVELLED to GDATA_FLAG_MILES_TRAVELED.)
I'll put out Custom-G 1.85.5.1 in a bit, even if the only change that wasn't already in 1.85.4.1 is the renamed variable. Don't want newbies getting confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20479210
What happens if it hatches?

[Anonymous No.]

Any way i can make them accidentally aggro each other? do i just leave booze scattered before doing this or fill the place with prostitutes?

[Anonymous No.]

So Uh, is this multiple weapons = more hits a meme or should I be adding hands? I currently have 3 and use one for that beast shield, two for martial weapons. Not sure if adding hands is worth the speed hit though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481584
>martial weapons
There's no such thing. As far as the game's concerned, you have three shields equipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481584
Since you're using martial arts, adding hands won't give you extra hits. You actually get more potential hits by leaving your hand slots empty, though the best build for that is to have no hands at all. More claws and tonfas could be useful too. Generally hands are the most useful part to add unless you're doing something like no hands martial arts or the two hand skill with no hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481622
>two hand skill with no hands.
Whoops, that should be two hand skill with one hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481622
Say,what happens if you got no hands? does martial still levels and considers you clawless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481633
Normally you can make up to four attacks per turn for each weapon you have equipped (martial arts is treated as one "weapon" no matter how many hands and claws you have). E+ makes an exception for martial arts, which can make up to eight attacks per turn if you have nothing equipped in any of your hand slots. It's not worth doing if you don't have equipment that grants extra attacks (though I see you have a good amount of them).

You'll lose the damage bonus and enchantments from your equipment, so whether this is worth doing depends on your situation. You can still equip a claw in your shoot slot if you have something more important than your vital flayer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481633
The martial arts skill functions the same whether you have zero hands or ten. I assume E+ also gives you the multihit bonus if you have no hands, but I have not tried it.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey i got inner ehekatl weapon at least,i will try doing it so kumiromi dies instead, that +600 con bonus sounds sweet for my pet

i closed all 8 of them in a pool and pet shadow stepped in to attack the one i aggroed,after that it was a ragarok wreck and ekekatl died after aggroing all the other gods with her death beam by accident

I couldnt get the drops without getting killed so i simply replaced by ruined castle with a shack to see if it was doable to collect them after

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481747
very informative!

[Anonymous No.]

>>20410236
Have you people gone to Noyel and celebrate The Holy Night and the one true goddess?

[Anonymous No.]

Im playing omake overhaul and eating a random wild plant just boosted all of my stat potentials. Anyone know what that was?

[Anonymous No.]

Finally managed to get the gods to kill kumiromi,2 more died as a bonus,now i need to get a shack and collect the drops,then move to the maid mansion

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>20481778
What graphics pack are you using? Your game looks ace.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know how smithing works in omake overhaul? I can never tell what the odds for success are, 99% of the time everything will fail, then the game will grant me a streak of highly improbable success streaks for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20487448
I mostly mix and match different things,what are you looking for in particular?

After much Savescumming pet managed to kill all 8 inner gods as far as i am concerned game is done for me for the time being i can relax,sorry for the shitty decoration i am not very creative in that regard

[Anonymous No.]

how do you guys do your custom AI? Mine is like this:

if MP > 10% and
HP < 70%, cast cure of jure

if MP > 10% and
buff != speed, cast speed

if MP > 10% and
buff != shield, cast shield

if MP > 10% and
buff != hero, cast hero

if player distance <= 3 and
player HP < 80%, cast healing rain

if enemy distance > 1
move forward

if enemy distance = 1
attack melee

if player distance >= 1
move forward

so:
>if injured, heal self
>buff up
>if player is nearby and need healing, heal player
>go attack enemy in melee
>if there are no enemies to attack, stick to the player.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20489431
I'm planning on using something like this for my kung-fu slimegirl waifu:
>Self HP < 90%: Super Regen
>Self Buff != Attribute: Attribute
>Self Buff != Clear Mind: Clear Mind
>Player Status = Brainwash: Squeeze [preserve entity as target]
>Player Status = Brainwash: Move (Forward) [preserve entity as target]
>Self Status = Brainwash: Attribute Shield
>Self Gauge = 100%: Fire Breath
>Target Status != Gravity: Gravity Sphere
>Target Distance = 1: Body Blow
>Target Distance = 1: Explosive Fist
>Target Distance = 1: Attack (Melee)
>Target Distance < 6: Uncontrol
>Target Distance < 6: Shadow Step
>Target Distance < 5: Distant Attack7
>Target Distance > 1: Move (Forward)
Haven't had a chance to teach her all the special actions yet, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>20485530
It was food blessed by one of the gods. If it boosted all potentials it was either blessed by Kumiromi or Inari. You can bless food yourself dropping unblessed (cursed is fine) food on an altar to your god, standing over it, and praying. Note that the potential increases are much greater for pets than for the player. For the player about 0.5% potential for food blessed by gods other than Kumi and Inari. Those two boost all primary stats but only add like 0.2%. You want your pets to be eating blessed food constantly to keep their potentials at 400%. You can get a huge stack of puff puff bread or seeds, bless them all at once, and then leave it in your pet's inventory and, with your permission, they'll auto eat as they get hungry.

Special steamed meat buns are an exception in that when blessed they raise stats instead of potentials. Meat buns blessed by Lulwy or Mani raise speed, a good way to keep low level pets competitive in the long term.

>>20487664
I don't know what the odds are, but your chances of success are higher with lower quality materials. Raising your constitution is also supposed to help. Mica is the lowest level ore, and for skins it's based on the monster's level. It's very powerful but I find it grindy and unfun.

By the way, there's a WIP english translation of OOMSEST floating around now. It isn't finished but it's in a perfectly perfectly playable state and its conveniences and other features are good enough that I'd recommend it over OO EN Hack at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

What should I change the game and detailed settings to?

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>>20490259
Auto turn speed to highest.

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>>20490259
Find config.txt in your game directory and change windowW. to 1248 and windowH. to 760, otherwise you cannot see the top row of the map.

[Anonymous No.]

All hail Eyth

[Anonymous No.]

I (My pet) slayed all the inner gods,what do i do now? collect all the cards?

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>>20492354
https://youtu.be/wNtxgxYY7sI

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I dont get it,you can get up to 800 points of speed from AP or once you have 800 speed he stops offering it?

say,i start with 100 and get 800 from AP,end with 900

Or i start with 10,get 790 from AP and he stops offering it?

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Just started playing a Lich Wizard right now, never had so much fun. I always played tanky melee types or ranged stuff since I was clueless about spellcasting and thought wizards were really squishy.

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>>20494111
If your base speed is higher than 800, Leold won't raise it any higher. You can have 799 base speed and Leold will raise it by the usual 20 up to 819, but won't push it any higher than that.

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>>20495501
Lich caster (probably best to class change to warmage) is a very strong candidate for the best combo in Elona+. It ain't bad in OO/OOmsest either.

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Anyone know what magic equip and super armour does? Couldnt find anything on the wiki

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>>20495851
Magic armor = magic stat up when wearing medium armor
Super armor = pv up when wearing heavy armor
They're like Emergency Evasion but with the different armor classes. Personally as a spellcaster I think magic armor is a huge rip-off since you're forced to take the casting penalty to use it but whatever.

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>>20495851
Elona+ special actions have their own page.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Special_action_(Elona%2B)

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>>20491030
The key to cutting off as little as possible seems to be to have the width as a multiple of 48 and the height 8 less than a multiple of 48. Your resolution wouldn't cut anything off, but neither would, say, 1584 x 808.

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I have been messing with the custom NPC feature and it seems i cant add gods special actions to a pet,would had been funny to see it spaming mew mew mew and tornados

Also my game throws a error if i close it after summon a custom NPC

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>>20496262
Aren't those supposed to require 100% gauge or something? I remember that my gauge would drop into negative numbers when I used those skills in wizard mode.

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>>20496305
I cant seem to find them in custom AI,i will try making the pet get to gauge full and test out,stuff like jure bleeding heal,ehekatl beams of death and lulwy tornado summons i mean

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>>20495501 here
Got my first two wishes in ~1 hour of playing. Check out what I got.

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>>20496355

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I just checked the artifact fusion page and there is not a single jewel that adds "it speeds up your metabolism" bonus,did i missed something? i want my pet to choke on herbs nonstop

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>>20496362
Now that's pretty fucking hayai. Garok it and artifact upgrade with only speed ups and post results.

>>20496411
That flavor text just means + Healing.

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>>20496321
Custom AI doesn't allow everything. There's a blacklist of disallowed spells (e.g. Door Creation, Return, Wizard's Harvest, Meteor), and a whitelist of allowed special actions.

>>20496355
>>20496362
Solid early-game wishes. Planning on doing Noyel courier jobs for quick cash, eh?

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>>20496426
What? its not that pets go hungry faster?

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>>20496442
Oh those * marked ones mean forbidden,though they meant buggy or glitchy

i guess that solves an issue,Now i only need to figure out how to edit their stats separately,How do japanese creators make manekis with 2000 speed for example

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>>20496445
No it literally just increases your healing skill, the same as any other enchantment that increases a skill. There are jewels that add it but it's not what you're looking for.

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>>20496457
You could check Propman's stuff from the mod pastebin. I've never been able to find how he made all that stuff, though.

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Anyone else think the Enthumesis is bullshit?
ive just hit my eighth death to fucking emission, While my SP and mana are being drained, the boss is non stop spawning more fucking minions.
What do anons?

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>>20496445
If you want faster hunger, just amplify the shit out of their speed, and lower yours. I did something similar with fairies where they would near 1k speed to shit out seeds, and I sat on a snail with legs + opatos' leg weights.
>Snail with legs.

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>>20496538
My bell of termination soloed it,the more pressing issue was not getting punched to hell by what comes out next,i dont got patience to grind numbers and i just use that pet in every file as my carry

spaming dimensional move if it got too close as the 'chaos child' managed to stall it until other things happened and finally defeated it,pet got one hit killed by a punch trying to defend me valiantly

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>>20496564
Guess it doesnt help ive gone solo up until this point does it?

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>>20496580
If you are a solo player sure,as i said i dont got the patience to grind for myself i rather let a grossly broken pet carry the shit out of me so i can enjoy the rest of the game

Also i find that this game is highly unkind to melee/close combat characters due to all the magic spam flooding the screen

[Anonymous No.]

There isnt a worse feeling in this game than encountering a grass dancer as a golem

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>>20496620
Never being able to romance shena

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Havent played in a while. What is this elona plus custom G stuff? and will my tiles from 1.68 work with it?

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>>20496638
Astral light pen

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>>20496776
Brb off to ignore the main questline

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>>20496788
Or,hell,just change the sprite and name of your pet/home maid to shena

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>>20496746
>What is this elona plus custom G stuff?
BloodyShade made the source human-readable, so Custom was modded to undo a bunch of dumb changes made by Ano and machine translate all the "Sorry, this is untranslated sentence". It also adds extra tweaks on top of the ones from Custom and a few other things.
>will my tiles from 1.68 work with it?
New items and characters and whatnot have been added since then, so you'll have to edit your BMPs to incorporate them.

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What exactly does "combining spells" do?

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(E+C) Also, whats a more favorable method and/or order of upping gears (scrolls/smith/stardust)?

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>>20497650
Scrolls go up to +2, or +3 if blessed. Greater scrolls go up to +4, or +6 when blessed. Smiths can go up to +10. Stardust goes up to +15. Usually you want to just smith up to +10, or whatever you can afford, and then stardust the rest of the way. You get half price from all smiths if you join the fighters guild. Get your stardust from party time quests.

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Anyone know of a good tile/portrait set for oomsest?

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>>20497696
actually it goes up higher now. +6 for lesser and +9 for greater (blessed). Decent way to save some money in the early game, though since even +10 only costs 91000 w/o fighter guild, it's not worth worrying about.

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>>20497606
Whenever you deal damage with one element, a fraction of it is dealt again in the other. I've yet to find a better late game bread & butter than ice spear with Rasen equipped. Unless I'm fighting something with abnormally high elemental resist, it deals more than crystal spear by a good margin.

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Certain people in this thread, actual Elona players, human beings with brains and emotions, actually, unironically, seriously, unashamedly like Sh*na better than Erystia. What's wrong with you?

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>>20496426
>>20496442
2hs of gameplay later, got a Statue of Ehekatl...
(I have godlike luck in real life, too ;)

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>>20498946
Have you seen Shena's ass?

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>>20499634
>Statue of ehekatl
go to hell

Any reason why custom NPC when captured display the message "some of its power has been swallowed by the world"?

I am making it too high level or something? or giving it too many skills?

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>>20500204
Did you set its species to "god", or recruit it with a soul spindle? I know offhand that both of those result in a depowering.

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>>20500236
I am trying to keep it on low levels so the recruiting penalty doesnt apply,hopefully the ability to give it any SP action in the game makes up for the fact she cant have speed of 2000 like a bell of termination

at that point why not just use karata to spam voracity fang i guess

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>>20500256
Forgot pic,or i could simply make it a normal human class and forget trying to be a speed mofo as my usual self

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>>20499995
Everyone has, it's been used like a public toilet. How do you think it's in such good shape? Erystia is cuter and 100x smarter.

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>>20500271
i would bang pael mom instead and give her daugher little sisters

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>>20500274
Little mutant monsters, IF they dodge the stillbirth stick. They'd be bullied even harder than Pael, and Pael would lose whatever friends she still has once they see her abominable siblings. Why do you hate Pael, anon?

What's the limit to enhancement? You can get to 15 with stardust but living weapons can add onto that (just tried, I'm at 19 and I assume it goes on forever). Furthermore, is it possible to max enhance them at Irma's before leveling up so you get the absolute max number of enhancements, or is there a cutoff limit where you have to take off other skills or you just can't equip it?

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>>20500296
But i cured her of ether corruption,plus i can simply put shena panties on her head as a safe measure while we fug

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>>20500204
If the stats are high enough, you get the god recruitment penalty.

if ( cdata(CDATA_INIT_ATTR, rc) + cdata(CDATA_INIT_SPEED, rc) * 3 > 4000 ) {
cdata(CDATA_CHARACTER_TIER, rc) = CHARACTER_TIER_GOD
}

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>>20500314
Seems like i am staying with karata or termination for the time being i dont see a feasible way to raise a pet speed to 2000 unless they gain it naturally from some other source beside AP

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>>20500296
>I assume it goes on forever
Living weapons can't be leveled past L15, and even then you're having to put up with major bloodsucking. And adding magic damage is a much bigger boost to normal attacks, so unless you've got ten hands and fight solely with Continuous Attacks you're better off with just +15.
>is it possible to max enhance them at Irma's before leveling up
You can't do artifact fusion on living weapons, not since the big randomness purge way back when.

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>>20500304
The cure only stops it from progressing, it doesn't reverse the damage already done.

>>20500340
I meant hardening, like with blacksmiths and stardust. I just found the tidbit in the wiki that mentions it's not limited by anything so disregard that part, and I forgot that they can't be used in fusion.

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All of the graphics mod are outdated, fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Any mathematicians here mind confirming my suspicions that its best to keep weapon skill and tactics equal? Got 200 bonus points and not sure how I should spend them.

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>>20501014
It would be nice if someone could upload their updated stuff.

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Anyone know why my insanity just fuckin skyrocketed? Also, Any way to get this shit down? My adventuring has slowed to a crawl,

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>>20502407
Did the quest to get the statue of jure, went to the undersea castle to wait the 720h to reuse.

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>>20501994
The damage multiplier from tactics is worth about 4 times as much as the multiplier from weapon skill, but weapon skill also improves your accuracy. In OO and its descendants, a weapon's + value multiplies your weapon skill, so weapon skill is king there. Outside of Omake variants, if you don't care about accuracy then just pump tactics.

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>>20502951
Thank you maths man!

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>>20502977
Here are the numbers I have for damage multipliers from different skills in case anyone wants them. These are from Omake Overhaul so there's no guarantee they'll be accurate in vanilla or Plus. All multipliers are from level 2000 in their respective skills, and they're added together, not multiplied, unless stated otherwise.

Weapon skill: 25x. In OO, a weapon's + value multiplies this damage multiplier. A +10 weapon will quadruple it. As OO weapon + values can go well into the hundreds, this is the most important damage skill late game.
Tactics: 90x
Strength: 45x
Two Hand: 60x. Two handing a weapon also multiplies all of your other damage multipliers by 1.5x. This effect is not based on the level of your 2H skill.

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>>20502407
go to Larna and paddle around in the hot springs. Each step heals 1 sanity.

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What do the little asterisks next to the main attributes do? I have them on 5/8 stats.

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>>20503209
It means your equipment sustains those stats.

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Is it possible to fuse an artifact and give it the "It stops time" effect? Going for a star platinum of a character and would like it as a detail.

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>>20503249
Ohh, as in, "it maintains X"? What does that do?

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>>20503270
In Elona Plus, no. In Omake Overhaul, maybe.

>>20503328
It means grudges and such can't damage those stats with their special attacks.

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>>20500360
The game's code supports enhancing up to a rather large value, theoretically you could just take the weapon to +15, then use +4 over and over again. If you abuse versions, technically you can go to an earlier vers, use artifact fusion on the living weapon, then go ahead and mod it, but then even before that living weapons use to have infinite levels, and the bloodsucking could be removed.

As expected living weapons were even more broken back then.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know where these big sprites come from? I downloaded the big assorted sprites pack and they're not in there. This was from my sheet from years ago. No idea where I got them from

[Anonymous No.]

New thread where?

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>>20505007
Golden knight is my wife!

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Anyone know if you can get the "It enhances when charging" effect on gear that can be used with martial arts? Havent found an example of it yet...

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>>20508801
Pretty sure it's weapon only, claws are considered shields since they add to stats instead of operating as weapons.