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2059114 No.2059114 [Reply] [Original]

Before I start, don't highlight the spoilers below until you've read everything else that I'm about to post (of course, people will do it anyway)

According to wiki, this game came out December 30th 2003 while Fate Stay/Night came out January 30th 2004

Anyways, so here I am, playing an old 2.5D fighting game that I've never played before. So I pick a character, and the first thing I notice is that the character has a costume like this...

Well, looks can be a coincidence so...

>> No.2059116
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And then I find out that while he's normally unarmed, when he attacks, he can materialize swords out of thin air and he can dual wield like so...

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AND THEN, I find out that he can THROW SWORDS LIKE CIEL (as in, throwing 3 waves of swords)

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>> No.2059128

0/10

>> No.2059132

well the ciel part doesn't matter because Tsuki came out in 2000

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Then I find out that his overdrive (Sorta like Final Arc where you have to enter an overdrive mode before you can do the overdrive like how in melty, you have to enter blood heat before you can do the final arc) consists of knocking the opponent into the air, impaling him/her with shitloads of materialized swords, and then impale him/her some more.

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>> No.2059157

>>2059141
In pure theory, it's doubtful someone copied the other when they came out this close (and at least one of them had the ideas fleshed out much sooner)

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>> No.2059162
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k, so, was archer so awesome that the idea of him was replicated by 2 different people/companies/groups at the same time?

Or was somebody leaking/stealing information?

>> No.2059172

>>2059146
>over a 1000 hits
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.2059173

>>2059162
You do realize you have not even given the game's title yet.

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>> No.2059174

>>2059172
He does 64 hits.

>> No.2059184

moar like nice fightan game you made, faggot.
6/10 for the effort

>> No.2059199

>>2059173
Sorry, was coming in this post. Just had to look for the youtube link first.

Anyways, the game name is Hinokakera: Fragments of Eclipse and here's a youtube video of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDF23EkMAws&fmt=18

>>2059172
where do you see 1000 hits anyway? That's over 1000 damage...

Also, overdrives deal more damage the higher your super bar is and you can actually push into enemy super bar territory (you and your enemy fight over the super bar. The total is 200 but you can have 150 max so you can sorta take some of the enemy's super bar away from him if you're constantly attacking)

>> No.2059210

>>2059199
IIRC, this is a doujin game, with a few installments/updates.
Was this guy present on the first one (or whichever came before F/SN)?

>> No.2059211

more like... every male character in the game dresses like him

>> No.2059222

>>2059210
yea, he was in the first release. The other versions added 3 characters, some naked Angel looking character, a maid with double uzis, and an awakened version of one of the female characters.

>> No.2059229

>>2059199
Strictly speaking, that guy from Bleach with Zenbonzakura(I remember the sword but not his name?) has unlimited PINK swords.

The shtick is not THAT new, in a sense.
It stands out in F/SN due to it's setting.

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White haired dude in red and black (with silver highlights) who summons swords out of nowhere and has an ultimate technique of uncountable swords?

Shit yeah, Archer's GAR enough to be in existence a full month before his story was actually released.

>> No.2059237

Here it is in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOSLESajsVY

>> No.2059241

>>2059229
I know. When I first saw this guy's overdrive, I went to look it up. Bleach (manga) came out 2002 according to manga-updates. I think we saw that captain (Byakuya? Don't remember anymore since I've stopped reading that Piece of Shit formerly known as Bleach)'s Bankai around chapter 150 or so. That means at least 3 years, so that means it came out around 2005. This game came out (well, at the end of) 2003 so...

>> No.2059254

>>2059241
Strictly speaking, August 2001.
AKa, MID 2004.
Christ, 2003-4, the SWORD era or something.

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>>2059254

Year of the Zantetsuken.

>> No.2059276

>>2059254
Either way, it would not have been possible for this game to copy from Bleach since you'd have to account for coding time and what not. And even then, it came out before we ever saw his Bankai.

Now Kubo copying from this is debatable since all he needs to do is draw it and say he pulled it out of his ass.

>> No.2059280

>>2059276
Who cares about Bleach anyway...

The point is that attacks and dressing style are eerily similar.
Mail Nasu?

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>>2059280
Why bother? OP is fooling with us; that's an alternate costume for Silvis. He's normally in white.

>> No.2059312

Needs a pic of Archer and Silvis brofisting.

>> No.2059314

>>2059311

Was it one added later?
That might be a reference to Archer, then.

>> No.2059318

>>2059311
The costume color is somewhat LESS important (robe design is still not far away). They are still pretty similar.

>> No.2059320

>>2059318
all the dudes are wearing similar robes

>> No.2059325

>>2059311
notice I said, >has a

And either way, it wouldn't change the fact that he looks like archer with his alternate costume, nor does it change the fact that their abilities (pulling swords out of thin air and dual wielding) are similar.

>> No.2059328

>>2059320
...Point taken.

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>>2059318
Robe design is completely different. Archer's doing the black spandex thing with added-on red sleeves, and a funky sarong-type thing that's open in the front. This guy is wearing a stereotypical trenchcoat.

>> No.2059352

>>2059325
This is more sword replication anyway, as they're all the exact same weapon. Pulling things out of nowhere is standard, whether it be swords, hammers, or baseball bats (bugs bunny, 196x). Making a shitload of weapons and have them use themselves is also standard when you have a weapon-user and can't think of a special move for them.

tl;dr: Nothing to see here. Move along.

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similar, yes...

>> No.2059357

But what's up with the costume similarity, bros?

Was it an altcostume applied in one of the later patches, after Fate was released (and presumably got popular)?

>> No.2059359

>>2059358

Lookin' kinda SQUALL LEONHART there bro.

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yea, they're all similar alright

>> No.2059364

>>2059362
Bancho Cloud vs Terry Bogard with a sword?

>> No.2059367
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More similar robes!

>> No.2059369

why is aya/immortal such a slut

>> No.2059383

>>2059352
My mistake; Bugs did that in the 30s.

>>2059357
There's really not very much similarity. The guy is wearing a red trenchcoat with black highlights. Red looks good, but is a terrible base color, and can't really have any color of highlights besides black. That's the only costume similarity, it's explained by simple color choice and requirements, and it's on an alternate costume.

>> No.2059386

>>2059114
Fate/Stay Night was not completed in a month's time. The game and its components were in works for quite a bit.

It's a coincidence.

>> No.2059389

>>2059367
you made a good point until that picture, paint those red and black and it's as similar to Archer as Silvis' robe is.

>> No.2059392

>>2059386

Actually, Fate/Stay Night was a story written back when Nasu was in HIGH SCHOOL.

But then, that was when Shirou was a girl and King Arthur was King Arthur.

>> No.2059395

>>2059389
Moreso, because they're actually open in the front.

>> No.2059408

>>2059389
lol, quick, shop it for me because I don't have photoshop on this laptop.

Anyways, was googling on the change logs, don't really see anything anything related to color... Seems like the 2nd patch added netplay, assault/technique modes and some config options and the third patch added a couple characters and a vn like storymode... The only thing I could find related to color was that the last costume had to be unlocked by beating arcade mode (and no, that costume you see Silvis wearing there did not need to be unlocked).

>> No.2059417

>>2059408
sorry, versions, not patches. versions as in 1.xx, 2.xx, 3.xx

>> No.2059434

I love how he's ignoring the strong arguments and picking out the weak ones. It's almost like he's trying to prove something, instead of just showing us something he thought was interesting.

>> No.2059435

>>2059392
Penisworms were....vaginaworms?

I'm trying to picture that....it's not exactly working well. Unless they're basically...fleshy socks?

>> No.2059446

>>2059435
Not everyone was reversed, idiot.
Nor were all the characters in the same used in the same fashion.

>> No.2059450

>>2059434
Strong arguments require solid proof. All we really have are theories and opinions on this being a coincidence...

>> No.2059466

>>2059450

Here is one dumbfuck, you do not honestly believe that they created F S/N in less that TWO YEARS?

>> No.2059478

>>2059466
I NEVER SAID I DIDN'T THINK THAT THIS WAS A COINCIDENCE. NOR DID I EVER SAY THAT FATE STAY/NIGHT COPIED FROM THIS GAME OR THAT THIS GAME COPIED FROM FATE STAY/NIGHT.

Caps locks cruise control for cool. Anyways...

That's why I pointed out that they were released within a month of each other, that it's doubtful that they copied off of each other. All I'm doing is entertaining the notion of what-if. You're the one who's deadset on declaring that there's absolutely no other way than it being a coincidence.

>> No.2059496

Yeah, not sure why people thought we were arguing.

>> No.2059508

>>2059478
you should state not quite early in your posts bro, posting lengthy descriptions and screenies can only make others think that you believe that it's true.

>> No.2059512

you should state that quite early in your posts bro, posting lengthy descriptions and screenies can only make others think that you believe that it's true.

>> No.2059519

>>2059512
Hey you deserve whatever you interpret from a post. It's not OP's fault if some idiot jumps the gun.

>> No.2059534

>>2059512
It's in the spoilers in the first post. I thought anybody with some semblance of intellect could figure out that I understand that they were released too close for one game to copy anything from the other. Of course, I thought wrong (or of course, people don't 1. read the spoilers or 2. possess intellect) but it's only human to make miscalculations and assumptions like those.

>> No.2059538

>>2059519
And OP deserves whatever arguments he get, it's not anon's fault if OP is idiotic enough to think that he was clear.

>> No.2059539

>>2059534
meant to say >(or of course, SOME people don't 1. r

>> No.2059544

>>2059538
like I said, it is my fault to assume that everybody here is intelligent. And I apologize for that. So there you have it.

>> No.2059586

>>2059435
Living Fleshlights

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