/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」 第2089番

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/DJT/「Daily Japanese Thread」第2089番 Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:10:54 2019 No.20699232 [Reply] [Original]

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Last thread: >>20691676

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:17:03 2019 No.20699271 yosh time for shitposting

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:19:47 2019 No.20699285 File: 74 KB, 872x735, jlpt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maybe I should have listened to the "manga isn't reading" guy. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:20:27 2019 No.20699289 >>20699232 私は日本語の学生犬フラフィーだ。

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:21:02 2019 No.20699293 congrats thats awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:22:15 2019 No.20699302 if someone uploads a pitch accent epwing ill give you a big ちゅー

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:23:48 2019 No.20699309 File: 93 KB, 1024x1024, 1546301107968.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of big ちゅーs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:25:19 2019 No.20699321 File: 29 KB, 736x314, whenwilltheylearn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :D

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:27:08 2019 No.20699327 File: 371 KB, 1254x1771, 1517382112101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20699285 Wow, I didn't think /djt/ posters had actually ever passed any level of jlpt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:31:52 2019 No.20699363 why would you read manga when you could read novels? i feel like manga is nothing more than a means to end, getting you from tae kim to light novels. i honestly dont think there are enough fun mangas out there that you could get to n1 like uwa-poster

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:34:37 2019 No.20699379

>>20699363
you would read manga because you are interested in the story... same reason you would read a book. you don't just read books because they are books right? there has to be something of interest otherwise you are torturing yourself like you're in school and doing required readings. and depending on the manga the vocabulary can be much more difficult than any normal front shelf novel due to being otaku media etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:35:03 2019 No.20699381 >>20699363 There are, and there's eromanga too. I also watch anime and occasionally read VNs and other stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:41:29 2019 No.20699410 i know matt used to love anki and then he did his i deleted anki video and did a 180 on it but then i see in all his recent videos he has anki installed and it looks like he uses it daily. did he effectively do a 360 on anki?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:42:25 2019 No.20699414 File: 687 KB, 1127x1600, a29e660a4d489d899e1115248afa6d19IMG_089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20699363 manga has pretty images

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:43:51 2019 No.20699420 >>20699414 what's that from? the scan quality looks pretty high

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:44:16 2019 No.20699425 >>20699414 That manga is so stupid like holy shit. Below hentai tier

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:45:00 2019 No.20699430 >>20699410 addictions are hard to break especially when youve had them for years

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:51:33 2019 No.20699472

>>20699410
he doesnt like anime anymore and based on that last qna it seems like he barely uses jp for anything but normal irl shit anymore so hes gotta drown himself in anki and making dumb videos to feel like he didnt waste his seishun eating in the toilet while passively listening to boring podcasts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:53:19 2019 No.20699483 >>20699472 3k/m . Not totally wasted

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:54:15 2019 No.20699486 >>20699483 people who know less nihongo than him make more so does it actually have anything to do with the time he wasted

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:54:26 2019 No.20699487 >>20699483 2.4 and falling

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:57:55 2019 No.20699502 >>20699486 Do they make those money from nihongo though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:59:05 2019 No.20699507 >>20699502 george made enough money translating to support a family launch a business and play pedo games on stream without having read a novel so yeah lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:59:47 2019 No.20699511 >>20699502 good point he isn't making money doing translation or interpretation or working in japan he is uploading english youtube videos and making english websites and talking on discord in english

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:00:56 2019 No.20699516 >>20699507 Shrug INTERNET bragging rights then. Welp he can always change his profession to cult leader.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:02:35 2019 No.20699525 >>20699502 thats what im sayin is matt makin money from the nihongo not really he doesnt need to know nihongo to tell people how to learn nihongo as has been demonstrated countless times by those more successful than him

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:03:47 2019 No.20699529 >>20699379 >has never read a nonfiction anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:05:35 2019 No.20699540 >>20699529 you mad kids manga is more difficult than your history textbook?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:08:12 2019 No.20699547 >>20699540 >he thinks nonfiction means history books please read some エッセイ集s. let me rec my nigga 林真理子’s 今夜も思い出し笑い series

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:09:46 2019 No.20699553 >>20699547 alright thanks ill check it out

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:23:03 2019 No.20699623 >>20699232 So this is the thread to learn japanese? wow Where should i start? Kana? I like that game on djtguide. Please don't bully

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:27:26 2019 No.20699645 >>20699285 Good job. Are you going to keep hanging around these threads, or just spend the rest of your time reading untranslated eroge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:28:10 2019 No.20699654 memeに引っかかっちまった柴犬飼いたい

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:32:28 2019 No.20699687

>>20699547
>>20699553
yeah i cant find that anywhere for free and i don't want to spend money importing stuff i'm unsure about, so if there's anything else you can recommend that is online ill look into it but otherwise im gonna just keep reading fiction probably for forever

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:39:52 2019 No.20699726 Fucking promontory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:41:36 2019 No.20699735 what the FUCk is a promontory

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:41:53 2019 No.20699738 Is there something I could read in only kana with western style spaces? My kana is so bad I need to read a complete book with it or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:45:06 2019 No.20699749 >>20699735 Heisig would know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:46:44 2019 No.20699758 >>20699738 just eat some manga or graded readers with light kanji or lots of furigana no reason you have to avoid kanji entirely while youre shit at kana

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:47:26 2019 No.20699761

>>20699623
I would say it highly depends on your interests. Kana is probably a must and if you are interested in written things prepare yourself to learn lots of random symbols that make different sounds depending on how they are arranged. But if you find something you like, it will be almost easy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 15:49:14 2019 No.20699767 >>20699758 Kanji make me nervous I don't want them in my texts, I can't even accept furigana. Please, there has to be something...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:03:09 2019 No.20699837 >>20699767 ポケモン金・銀

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:07:20 2019 No.20699856 >>20699232 Someone give me a quick rundown on what's so different about the new guide?

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:09:11 2019 No.20699868
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wtf was it with horrible subs a few years ago?
>それからリボンぐらいだって
>And I should at least wear lipstick...

those fukkers translated リボン as LIPSTICK.

its almost made on purpose. its from nonnonbyori

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:09:38 2019 No.20699872 >>20699738 I hope you're just pretending to be retarded This is honestly the worst post I've seen all year

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:11:51 2019 No.20699889 >>20699738 to be honest i think you should learn korean instead of japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:19:52 2019 No.20699947 i missed the start of the thread but lets put on our lipsticks and get it poppin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzOAsyzM8E4#t=153

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:26:26 2019 No.20700000

>>20699872
>>20699889
please, why do you even care what I do in my free time? It's just a pain that there seems to be nothing really to just focus on hiragana, except for maybe japanese teen girl twitter. People recommended Yotsubato to me, but it's fucking filled with kanji. It's perfectly fine if you guys have a blast learning those symbols, but I'm having already a hard time with hiragana only, even Katakana is too much for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:27:27 2019 No.20700007 >>20700000 Nice

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:30:39 2019 No.20700025 >>20700000 no one cares what u do in ur free time just the same as we dont care to read ur posts also i dont care how many consecutive same numbers are in ur post number

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:33:30 2019 No.20700042 私は暃ず閠しいですけど、挧です。

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:33:36 2019 No.20700043

>>20700000
i don't care what you do in ur free time 勘違いしないで theres some kanji in there but basically what we are saying is you might as well not even learn how to read (and really you can't anyways) if you aren't willing to learn kanji since it's an inseparable part of the written language

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:34:37 2019 No.20700050 now thats a tundere post if ive ever seen one just suck that dudes dick

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:35:35 2019 No.20700068 File: 174 KB, 986x702, DgvGAPrUYAAaz3o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20700025 yeah just keep pretending, but you know better than anyone that you can't deny the wisdom of the quintuplets.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:35:51 2019 No.20700071

>>20699363
Most light novels are poorly written and there is a lot of manga out there of much higher quality than said light novels.
>i honestly dont think there are enough fun mangas out there that you could get to n1 like uwa-poster
It is possible to read and enjoy more than one type of media.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:36:05 2019 No.20700073 >>20700000 if youre givin up before you start do i even need to say youre not gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:38:34 2019 No.20700100 >>20700071 >It is possible to read and enjoy more than one type of media. its possible but when you have all the based eroge in the world its waste not want not innit

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:41:32 2019 No.20700123

>>20700043
>勘違いしないで
baka, you know I can't read that.

Yeah I know, I don't even want to read (I'm not even fox and the grapes'ing). But I kinda already struggle with the kana in Tae Kim because I only ever SRSed it a bit and I'm pretty insecure if I read a word correctly. So I though reading some larger text in plain kana would be beneficial. But I don't want to learn 2000 kanji just to achieve that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:42:34 2019 No.20700131 >>20700123 roughly translated that bit of nihongo says i wanna puff ur petey

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:46:13 2019 No.20700158

>>20699738
Manabi reader is pretty helpful, since it has a ton of different articles/books to read (even Reddit), and you can find the definition of a word by simply tapping on it. Some articles also show what level it is (n5-n1) so that should help as well. It does have some furigana, but there are also western style spaces, so make your choice.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:48:23 2019 No.20700171

>>20700000
Assuming your not trolling you shouldn't avoid kanji. There's no point in just learning kana. Read an simple vn like hanabira. When you scan kanji you have to read the reading in hiragana so your practicing everything in the order of importance. Other than that just get one of the kana Anki decks and blast through it you will eventually learn. Don't worry about mixing up katakana in the begging just recognize your mistakes and move on.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:53:06 2019 No.20700194

>>20700123
get comfortable with sucking and stop trying to avoid difficulty if you want to have any chance at ever learning nihongo
by the way memorizing 2000 symbols is a waste of time just fuckin expose yourself to what youre afraid of and let the pattern recognition device inside your skull do its thing

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:56:12 2019 No.20700210

>>20700158
I tried a few of those readers, but I haven't found any where you can switch to kana only and funi is annoying and too small. Also it's mostly news or some random ass articles. I would prefer childrens books or something. I'm quite surprised that such material seems so hard to come by. It's like everybody wan't to go from zero to new york times articles.

>>20700171
I have no use for written japanese except for the learning materials. Luckily enough most seem to kinda let you get away with kana and it really helps with the pronunciation. But kanji is complete waste of time if you are not planning on reading anything.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:56:27 2019 No.20700212

>>20700123
idk man just do it anyway. kana isn't even a big deal. scan a bunch of words with yomichan and practice that way as the other anon suggested. i did that before i even started reading and it helped a lot. it should only take a few weeks at most for it to become really really easy to remember the kana.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:58:04 2019 No.20700225 I'm not interested in reading per se either but I have a mega brain that enables me to suck it up and read anyway because it's an invaluable tool for learning the language and assisting with audio.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:58:26 2019 No.20700231 >>20700194 I wouldn't even mind learning 2000 symbols. But having 2000 symbols that have different readings and meanings depending on how you combine them is extremely irrational. My anus is not prepared for this.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:01:08 2019 No.20700256

>>20700123
if you don't want to read then you really only need to learn kana to the point where you can type it with an ime so that when you hear something you can look it up in a dictionary like jisho.org. i don't think you need to spend the time reading texts to learn kana since your goal isn't to read anyways. put all your time into listening

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:02:36 2019 No.20700266 >>20700231 if you have an incurable fear of chinese drawings what are you even doing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:05:27 2019 No.20700286 >>20700266 anki decks with audio, anime, podcasts. But now I kinda struggle with Tae Kim and I hate it. Progress way too slow, because I need to check if I read the kana correctly at the beginning of each lesson.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:05:45 2019 No.20700287 File: 85 KB, 1544x849, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] u should b able to solve this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:07:09 2019 No.20700297 i suck so bad at japanese i literally read 権兵衛 as kakuheiki today

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:09:20 2019 No.20700313 if u never read the word before can u really be blamed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:09:42 2019 No.20700315 >>20700287 Retardo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:12:03 2019 No.20700329 >>20700000 play mother 2 on snes >>20700287 what is gei

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:13:57 2019 No.20700338 >明日また会えるよね Why for Aeru yo ne you don't write あえるよね

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:13:58 2019 No.20700339 >>20700297 I can see why you read 権 as kaku because 確 but why 衞 as ki

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:14:13 2019 No.20700342 >>20700313 i had seen it a few times before :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:14:25 2019 No.20700344 >>20700210 Are you suggesting your going to try and learn the language with our reading. Good luck buddy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:14:38 2019 No.20700345 File: 129 KB, 600x450, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20700329 look at this nihongo knowin boy also u can play that but why dont u play one of ur grandpas classics

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:16:50 2019 No.20700359 >>20700345 looks like it'd be hard to get it to run on a modern computer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:18:26 2019 No.20700365 >>20699285 Teach me your ways What study method worked best for you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:20:12 2019 No.20700373 i finished my second full novel this month today but i still have to use much more brain power reading jap compared to english + its a lot slower. will this really go away with time?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:21:38 2019 No.20700381 >>20700373 yeah but it takes a long time but as long as you keep reading stuff you genuinely like and are interested in it'll be okay the biggest danger is burning out and stopping. other than that you're invincible

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:21:59 2019 No.20700383 why is the /djt/ on /int/ so much better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:22:04 2019 No.20700385 >>20700359 u can just use a pc98 emulator if u have to neko projects pretty good it has lifelike disk drive sounds and simulates disk reads and read times ftw doesnt beat the real thing but i still appreciate all the finer points included in it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:22:46 2019 No.20700389 >>20700383 Moderation is almost nonexistent here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:23:10 2019 No.20700392 moderation isnt the problem its ur posts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:23:11 2019 No.20700393 >>20700286 what i meant was what are you even doing with your life to be learning a language you will never be able to read demo gambare

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:23:21 2019 No.20700394 >>20700383 i thought it was supposed to be super dead all the time, is that where the real party is? should we go there?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:24:15 2019 No.20700403 >>20700394 i wouldnt say its where the party is but it is where u should go yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:24:42 2019 No.20700406 if you even think about going to /int/ you should definitely go to /int/ and stay there

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:25:13 2019 No.20700410 >>20700394 people actually help there. it's pretty comfy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:25:38 2019 No.20700414 >>20700381 how long did it take for you? how many books would you say?

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:26:58 2019 No.20700432

>>20700344
Yeah I'm pretty much following the advice to only immerse in stuff I enjoy. It's working quite ok so far. Like I said, main problem is learning material, but I'm not that much into textbooks anyways. Tae Kim however seems a quite reasonable introduction to grammar and japanese really has some quite foreign concepts, coming from western based languages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:28:19 2019 No.20700444 >>20700385 god those emu guys are quite the autistic ones, aren't they? But good for them I suppose.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:28:22 2019 No.20700447

>>20700414
i'm not even good yet and i've read hardly any fucking books (maybe a total of 10 LNs and 2 or so VNs) but the difference in speed from when I first started out to now is ridiculous. the first LN i read took me more than a month to finish, but now i can do one in a week or so if i really sit down and dig into it.
ive been studying for two years and have not made good use of my time

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:29:02 2019 No.20700456 >>20700392 Wtf? I'm always contributing quality posts here in lowercase.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:29:10 2019 No.20700458 >>20700385 >lifelike disk drive sounds and simulates disk reads and read times ftw nostalgia is truly a disease

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:30:45 2019 No.20700470 >>20700171 >Read an simple vn like hanabira the meme claims another

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:31:35 2019 No.20700476 >>20700393 Well I watch tons of anime. So many that I think learning nip is well worth my time and I should have started 20 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:31:57 2019 No.20700481 >>20699761 God there is so much I've almost puked. Before starting with the Tae's guide should I learn all kana, right? Are the youtube video lessons good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:33:29 2019 No.20700494 >>20700476 almost all anime is subbed and the subs will even translate all the signs and blackboards you cant read

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:33:47 2019 No.20700497

even if you guys are right that you should only read interesting material even if it's difficult (hence no hanahira), i will ignore your advice and do it the inefficient way. and if i make a video talking about it later i'll come off more authoritatively than some random posters here so your message will NEVER spread and inefficiency will win. :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:34:25 2019 No.20700506 >>20700403 >>20700406 >>20700410 i went to take a peek and man that shit is uhhh they sure are arguing about production. nobody over there is having any fun and they're all pretty rude. id rather sit here with my friends and read eroge

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:34:34 2019 No.20700508 Is there an easier way to import a large amount of mined vocab with sound, other than using yomichan connect and having to mouseover them all one by one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:35:22 2019 No.20700517 >>20700506 nice blog

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:35:37 2019 No.20700519 >>20700481 落ち着いて the shit looked scary to me too and now after 3 months it's not scary, it just looks like a bunch of shit i'll get around to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:35:56 2019 No.20700521 >>20700494 yeah but it's tedious to always read and you miss out on many little details in the background and stuff and you won't understand many nuances. Also I consider this basically a free language with some minor initial ramp up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:36:25 2019 No.20700525 whenever i see people overwhelmed with kana, kanji or even grammar i cant help but feel really relieved that ill literally never have to learn those things from the beginning ever again

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:36:38 2019 No.20700527 >>20700506 that's why i'm here. we all hate on jamal but without him where would jp's djt be? just another sad lifeless general.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:36:44 2019 No.20700529 >>20700517 tune in next time for when i tell you about my time posting in djt "and then jamal posted a rap vid and it was cool"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:38:25 2019 No.20700545 >>20700521 >basically a free language 笑う

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:39:18 2019 No.20700555

>>20700432
Even for me whose read intensely for 6 months I still need to follow a long a subtitle to understand anime. Just accept that without the written word you can't get past a certain point in the language. There's no content because it's out of your reach. Being able to listen comes after being able to read. Unless you have some really patient Japanese friends. Even then I don't think you'll get very far.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:41:11 2019 No.20700568

>>20700481
Realistically you should at least be prepared to invest 1h each that. I highly recommend starting out with a core deck. Check the OP for further instructions. Some people recommend other ways, but I think knowing 1000-2000 common words will make further studying so much more fun. Depending on your determination and brain size this wont take you that long. But don't force yourself or you will burn out. Just do as much as you can, but try to get some routine going.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:42:46 2019 No.20700582 you could watch 10k hours of conan and if you can still pay attention by the end maybe youll have gotten somewhere

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:46:58 2019 No.20700605 File: 188 KB, 1716x1641, chrome_2019-01-23_16-44-57.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Damn this veronin dude is legit, reading all that in his first year of studying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:47:45 2019 No.20700611 >>20700605 who?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:48:13 2019 No.20700616 >>20699645 Both, except manga instead of eroge (most of the time.) >>20700365 Tae Kim, subbed anime, raw manga and Google. I used Anki for a while in the beginning, but eventually I realized it had become pointless and quit it forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:48:50 2019 No.20700619 >>20700568 You mean 1h/day, right? It'll took me 1-2 weeks to learn all Kana. My brain is pretty small. And what about Kanji? Is there a full list? Should I download those softwares from mega?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:49:17 2019 No.20700628 https://r25.jp/article/636770561265930998 How famous is Hiroyuki in Japan? Was an interesting read though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:49:48 2019 No.20700630 >>20700605 fuck off niwaka

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:50:12 2019 No.20700632 >>20700605 dudes bunk as fuck putting shokomeza as a 1/5 lmfao i mean dont get me wrong its pure fun enjoyable no ulterior motives romeo but im pretty sure he missed all the wit and high iq humor

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:50:15 2019 No.20700633 File: 1.86 MB, 1920x1080, 1540635620351.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] learn nihongo so you don't have to face quality localization

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:50:17 2019 No.20700634 File: 163 KB, 650x560, 1515633293910.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20700619 >Is there a full list? Oh you sweet child

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:51:05 2019 No.20700637 >>20700632 thats not a list based on quality it's a list based on "how easy could a beginner read this" still incredibly whack imo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:51:13 2019 No.20700639 >>20700633 i see uve found one of my scanlations

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:51:32 2019 No.20700643 >>20700628 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niconico#Features https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2channel he's kind of a big deal historically speaking

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:52:20 2019 No.20700648

>>20700555
Look you don't have to listen to some random dude on the internet. But I have seen this many times. Reading and Listening are simply not the same things, and please believe me when I say that you cripple yourself with the subs. This is basically the same mistake especially the japanese people do. They are so incredibly good with written engrish, I would argue even better than the average american. But when it comes to understanding or speaking, they are completely lost. I guarantee you that when you turn off subs and watch daily anime for three weeks max, you will be at the same level as reading.

Btw. I'm at 3 months and I feel already comfortable watching Totoro. I suppose I understand about 75% of the words and probably 95% from context, but I'm sure I'm missing / misunderstanding many grammar related things. But it's an incredibly easy movie, so there is that.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:53:16 2019 No.20700659

>>20700637
no thats what i mean like baby shitting in diaper is not going to read shokomeza right at all it would have been most consistent with his list to have it be a 2 considering all the other 2s

its still retarded as fuck to have a difficulty scale bc lol but yah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:53:27 2019 No.20700661 >>20700648 >I would argue even better than the average american. basketball americans aren't the average

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:53:37 2019 No.20700663 >>20700605 Imagine being more concerned with "reading" "kamige" with a texthooker to brag about it on the internet than actually enjoying those games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:54:08 2019 No.20700667 >>20700648 Considering totoro's target audience is literally 5 year olds I don't think you should hold that up as an accomplishment

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:54:17 2019 No.20700669 >>20700648 could u put the "btw im at 3 months" thing at the start of ur post so i dont read 3 lines of idiot spew tia

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:56:02 2019 No.20700683 File: 1.09 MB, 1920x1200, 1544458365101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSHzosSNjbM How long would it take a chess genius to learn Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:57:16 2019 No.20700691 >>20700611 >>20700630 >>20700663 All these fags so jelly that they didn't progress that fast by no-lifing through dozens of VNs while still being a top MAL reviewer and moderator

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:58:14 2019 No.20700695 you cant really use jealous and mal in the same sentence if you want me to take your b8 seriously

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 17:59:43 2019 No.20700704 Why do you guys care about the JLPT? It's not an accurate representation of someones Japanese ability at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:00:07 2019 No.20700708 i don't think the monumental task of learning japanese is worth understanding the nuance of what anime characters are saying but idk i don't have a much better reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:00:42 2019 No.20700713 >>20700691 oh he's...MAL reviewer. was just curious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:01:04 2019 No.20700716 >>20700704 Imagine trying to prove to someone you know and understand Japanese without a reference.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:01:55 2019 No.20700726

>>20700619
1h a day, yes sorry. I think it's a reasonable investment. Some neets here invest(ed) way more, but of course that's not feasible for anyone and I guess you have to be a pretty intense person, to do such a thing.

1-2 weeks for kana is completely fine and normal. You shouldn't listen too much to what other people say. This is not a contest and you can't trust random people on the net.

I'm not the expert on kanji, since I only know about 3 or 4. There are many different ways and I presume in the end the results will be pretty much the same. If you want to read books and games and stuff I would choose a route that introduces words from the beginning. Otherwise you will invest months in learning random symbols, that have no real meaning until later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:02:02 2019 No.20700728 >>20700632 >all the wit and high iq humor post some examples

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:03:01 2019 No.20700738 >>20700643 for being a jew

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:03:49 2019 No.20700746 >>20700683 1.5 year max for JLPT n1

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:04:13 2019 No.20700751 >>20700716 you can trick people into thinking you know japanese based on crossing arbitrary thresholds that they've no clue about. sure i guess. doesn't really answer his question tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:04:21 2019 No.20700752 >>20700716 There's a million better ways to prove to someone that you know Japanese than showing them a your JLPT score.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:05:57 2019 No.20700765 >>20700695 come on at least give me a pity (you)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:07:12 2019 No.20700776 File: 130 KB, 580x353, 等価交換.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20700765 here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:08:05 2019 No.20700787 >month 6 and より still confuses me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:08:11 2019 No.20700789 File: 160 KB, 1280x720, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20700728

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:08:40 2019 No.20700795 >>20700776 doumo desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:08:47 2019 No.20700797 >>20700789 i dont get it

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:10:25 2019 No.20700823

>>20700669
My advice comes from experience with learning other languages, like for example english. And believe me when I say that I have seen many people struggle with listening comprehension and it's always the same pattern. If you watch with subs you will loose your concentration after a short period of time and your brain will only read the subs. It's the evolutionary smart thing to do, brain processing power is expensive and it will always go for the shortcuts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:12:48 2019 No.20700842 read more idiot spew and still remain unimpressed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:13:01 2019 No.20700843 File: 122 KB, 1081x1534, kimiwastukiyo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OK girls I need to take my studying more seriously, I'm going to go read this now. I will not use 4channel until I finish. Until then, take care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:14:02 2019 No.20700851 >>20700716 this post permanently crippled my intelligence

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:14:55 2019 No.20700859 >>20700843 looks gay

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:15:04 2019 No.20700862 >>20700843 otomodati gambare

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:15:54 2019 No.20700870 >>20700494 Most subbed anime's quality is OK at best

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:16:03 2019 No.20700872 >>20700843 why are anime names so fucking cancer

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:16:09 2019 No.20700874

Can you read this post written by khatz without looking up any kanji

いつも通りのネットサーフィン（おググり）がてらに、「まったり冗長」っていうブログにてこの記事を。ブログ全体は文体も内容も個性的で面黒いから、是非ご覧あれ。

漢字ヲタでもある拙者に刺激を与えて呉れる内容ばかり。特にこれ：

『むしろＮ○Ｋが「洪水」をテロップで
「こう水」と表記したりしてる方がよっぽど問題かと。全然難しくねぇだろ。』

ドカーーーーーン！大同感！！

阿呆かっ、NHK？！（然様、俺は堂々と名前を申すゾ！）やっぱ阿呆だナァ。なんか、「昆虫」を「こん虫」、「寡夫」を「か夫」、「改竄」を「改ざん」、「哺乳類」を「ほ乳類」などと表記しやがて、「っざっけんなよ！」と申させる場面が多い。NHKって、イイ所（例を挙げれば：「サラリーマンNEO」）もあれば、とんでもなく阿呆らしい所も無きにしも非ず。まあ、NHKというより文部科学省かも知れんが。おっと、政府批判しちゃった。

「でも『改竄』が難しいよ！」とかホザく方もいらっしゃるでしょうが、拙者が存じるに、いわゆる「難しさ」は、使用を忌避する原因ではなく、寧ろその結果なんだ。使ったら人に覚えられる。使わないと死語（死字）になる。だからGHQみたいに日本国民を蔑まずドンドン漢字使えっつーの！ってか、ホンマに字が難しいと判断したら振り仮名でも振ったら、振り仮名？

それじゃ、短い内容でスイマシェン（ていうか、済むけど（笑））。また今度ね！

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:17:48 2019 No.20700893 >>20700874 >ネットサーフィン nah I stopped there after cringing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:18:00 2019 No.20700896 >>20700842 why are some guys so stubborn? Just watch those anime raw. What would be the worst thing that could happen? That you unlearn japanese? Just pick an easy one like Totoro, Shirokuma Cafe or Kemono Friends.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:18:39 2019 No.20700900 >>20700896 doesn't matter man

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:20:26 2019 No.20700919 >>20700874 this is the guy mattvsjapan worshiped ?? lmfao explains why he communicates like this as well

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:21:10 2019 No.20700923 if i read a foreigner writing japanese and i don't understand it i just attribute it to them being foreign and not me not understanding japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:21:19 2019 No.20700924 >>20700787 >よ The O on the bottom tells me it's Yo >り Looks sort of like い tells me it's Ri

>>	- Wed Jan 23 18:24:33 2019 No.20700951 is there a way to import the nhk accent dictionary into yomichan, the importer fails. or a way to rearrange the order the dictionarys show up so jmdict isnt first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:25:17 2019 No.20700956 How hard is Gyakuten Saiban to play?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:25:19 2019 No.20700957 >>20700874 >面黒い Didn't read past this meme bullshit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:25:25 2019 No.20700959 The new guys don't even know the dept of ma*t-sama's greatness. Why even live

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:25:29 2019 No.20700961 >>20700924 ノシツソン

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:26:04 2019 No.20700968 >>20700959 >dept is he greek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:26:55 2019 No.20700975 >>20700951 check off show advanced options to reorder dictionaries

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:28:13 2019 No.20700988 >>20700968 He's not. Only my keyboard

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:39:45 2019 No.20701073
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Are their any Japanese Youtubers (or any other video site) that speak like normal human beings? Every single one I find just screeches autisically at everything and is just generally obnoxious as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:41:31 2019 No.20701085 >>20700956 its literally a game for children its not even really text heavy i recommend it if uve never played

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:42:33 2019 No.20701089 >>20701073 i never thought ud give me the chance to dig out a classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCTKIqfmiWo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:43:20 2019 No.20701090 >>20700961 Anon that's unfair and you know it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:44:23 2019 No.20701097 >>20701085 Never played....in Japanese

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:46:35 2019 No.20701112 >>20701097 if u already know everything i dont think i personally recommend even tho this is generally good practice i just dont have a good feeling about this 1

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:47:30 2019 No.20701118 >>20701112 Its been a while since I have so I probably have missed some of the "tricks"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:50:42 2019 No.20701129 >>20701089 This is great because he’s genuinely scared shitless instead of the over the top fake bullshit that most Youtubers today to react to every little thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:54:43 2019 No.20701154 >>20701129 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCTKIqfmiWo#t=153 fuckin gets me every time lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:02:33 2019 No.20701190 File: 38 KB, 640x357, INhvLYZePx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People were recommending katanagatari but it's a wall of kanji and all samurai speak.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:06:29 2019 No.20701208 >>20701073 tons, you just have to find the ones into what you are into, or maybe you're into stuff that draws out the autism

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:10:14 2019 No.20701225 >>20701208 >tons >provides literally no links Thanks, anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:10:56 2019 No.20701230 >>20701190 i thought katanagatari would be full of katanagatana what bullshit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:12:02 2019 No.20701236 Any good systems to import kindle into anki? None of them include dictionaries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:14:32 2019 No.20701244 Is there a way to sync the anki in my computer with the anki in my smartphone? Sorry if dumb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:14:44 2019 No.20701248 Do you guys ever have words you’ve heard/seen in context a million times and looked them up over and over again and still constantly forget what they mean? I swear I have the memory of a fucking brain-dead giraffe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:16:26 2019 No.20701258 sometimes i think of how much more nihongo i could consume if i left but then someone asks about creating flash cards from their kindle and im glad im still here

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:17:46 2019 No.20701271 >>20701248 it happens and its probably what convinces people they cant learn without anki but itll work itself out

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:23:53 2019 No.20701302 >>20701271 The difference is a decade or a couple of years though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:25:14 2019 No.20701308 >>20701271 or just speed up the "forgetting over and over and looking it up over and over" part and learn it quickly with anki

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:27:00 2019 No.20701316 the drones surround their queen

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:28:49 2019 No.20701326 >>20701225 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XOpQTc3I7Q

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:38:11 2019 No.20701366

>>20701073
get into ones that do livestream/radio type content, those are the ones that make their bank by speaking like normal human beings
here's my guilty pleasure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnzRIkWBNeM

alternatively use youtube to listen to voice actor commentary & radio shows

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:41:10 2019 No.20701381 >>20701089 >ふざけんなよ bollocks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:44:51 2019 No.20701401 >>20701366 You're going to end up sounding like a girl if you develope off of that. But I like how clear it is and women generally are easy to hear. I need to find a guy that rambles on like that in his late 20's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:46:51 2019 No.20701407 >>20701073 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_VDJjR8cRw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:49:42 2019 No.20701422 >>20701326 watch that fucken pigg

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:50:32 2019 No.20701424 >>20700616 So watching subbed anime actually helps your listening? I thought watching with subs didn't help listening much because you're also spending time reading subs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:51:34 2019 No.20701433 if ur a retard and focus on the subs thats ur fault and in no way makes the subs bad its ur brain thats bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:52:34 2019 No.20701440 btw the subs are prolly still bad dogshit even but its important and after 10000 hours of it ull thank me and say i wish i started sooner

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:54:01 2019 No.20701446

>>20701401
>You're going to end up sounding like a girl
only if it's the only exposure you have, which would make it pretty hard to enjoy because these people talk about a lot of shit you need to have cultural context on

i also happen to be into shit like https://youtu.be/UxGnSkxQsZY

and competitive pokemon (literally shoot me) so speaking of otaku males in their late 20s i have no shortage of content like this to enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mIECIm-5L4

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:54:23 2019 No.20701448 maybe he meant japanese subs

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:56:57 2019 No.20701460 >>20701448 I did yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:56:57 2019 No.20701461 listening is one part decoding one part comprehending subs help comprehension but not your ability to decode audio having good comprehension helps you fill in hard to decode blanks therefore subs help your listening ability qed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:57:29 2019 No.20701466 File: 83 KB, 1440x810, kyouko10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20701433 this is the truth but another, less fortunate truth is that most people's brains are bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:58:40 2019 No.20701472 oh well if u use jp subs early on u better not be fuckin trash cuz ur just gonna make watching anything miserable

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 19:59:12 2019 No.20701476 Newfag here, what’s with the retard(s?) that type like they’re in the third grade and never actually reply to anyone? Never seen this type of autism before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:00:18 2019 No.20701481 weve got a geriatric in here who would literally suck dick to relive his old forum days so we humor him

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:01:05 2019 No.20701486 newfag here whats with this dude that fakeposts newfag and other misc newbie posts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:01:53 2019 No.20701492 larping for yous innit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:06:21 2019 No.20701512 File: 148 KB, 1000x462, NTtDBFMRxH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the 'you just might make it' sub feed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:06:35 2019 No.20701513 larping for yous and not getting any must feel pretty bad have some pity >>20701476

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:07:37 2019 No.20701516 if u use anki u drone fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:08:08 2019 No.20701518 >>20701476 No moderators so nothing we can do about it. Try /int/'s DJT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:10:14 2019 No.20701527 being concerned about capital letter and puncuation in english >not going to make it

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:12:26 2019 No.20701536
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lets do something meaningful and decide right now what the best nihongo rap track from 2018 was

heres the finalists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdxfJIz4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5y4L4bneyM#t=77
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVO6L0PSEWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quJvkUlpIVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGX7kfoptaM#t=17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE-OhJlaRHk

https://www.strawpoll.me/17291171

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:13:14 2019 No.20701539 The hardest part about reading kanji is that the characters are so FUCKING small on anything with a screen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:18:42 2019 No.20701563 >>20701527 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:21:29 2019 No.20701574 >>20701518 That's not true, try using the N word

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:21:53 2019 No.20701579 >>20701536 i vote for suchiboys because they are epic, you can tally that down cos i'm not opening the strawpoll

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:22:54 2019 No.20701586 if write ins are allowed put one down for soredake

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:25:25 2019 No.20701596 File: 10 KB, 240x180, 240px-Swan_boat_at_Ohori_park.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeee~

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:25:35 2019 No.20701599 im not keepign track of either the strawpoll or how many in thread votes i just wanted to post a bunch of dope vids lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:26:37 2019 No.20701604 desu we could also just do a which sushi boys is best sushi of 2k18 thatd b equally valid i think

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:31:37 2019 No.20701631 File: 53 KB, 481x358, 2lcY9nGd7e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 286 all new words this week, 80% ret

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:34:21 2019 No.20701643 >>20699285 Is N1 high, or is N5 high? New to all of this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:45:29 2019 No.20701709 theyre both low

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:48:09 2019 No.20701725 >>20701643 N1 is the hardest, N5 the easiest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:48:23 2019 No.20701728 >>20701302 >>20701308 read this https://pastebin.com/vCf9QHir

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:53:29 2019 No.20701758 its been a year since arguing if thanatos is nihongo or chuugokugo rappu ive gained some real precious memories sinsetuna tomodati hontoo ni aligatou

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:53:35 2019 No.20701759 >>20701728 shutup rarepotato you just underestimate the positive effect core10k had on you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 20:56:17 2019 No.20701771 get your facts straight zyagaimo didnt do core10k he just read the sentences a few times

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:01:11 2019 No.20701794
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I'm starting again.
Only ever went up to lesson 5 of Genki 1.
I realize I had forgotten even some katakana.
This time I surely won't drop it... but it's so intimidating. Be honest /djt/, am I gonna make it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:01:55 2019 No.20701798 >>20701794 Absolutely fucking not lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:05:52 2019 No.20701820 File: 222 KB, 640x360, raw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20701798 Ok Also, anyone else tried using DuoLingo on the side? So far I've completed the first few stages and I find it completely useless

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:08:54 2019 No.20701835

I stumbled upon a popular lets player who doesn't have any English subtitles whatsoever and seems to be entirely relevant only to Japs

incredibly entertaining, even though I don't understand most of it, he also does that thing where if there's text of any kind, he'll read it because he loves the sound of his own voice or something

very good for my dumb ass brain

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:14:26 2019 No.20701860 >>20701794 Just read the japanese in the genkis don't waste time on the english unless absolutely necessary. Be efficient and just get adapted to nihongo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:14:40 2019 No.20701861 >>20701820 >DuoLingo jesus stop. just read and mine words and/or do a deck like core2k or vncore.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:33:52 2019 No.20701995 >>20701835 Well fucking link him anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:36:32 2019 No.20702020 >>20701835 is it this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geJ8RX-HkKk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:42:20 2019 No.20702054 >>20701835 there are millions of these you just gotta look jikkyou are very good for your japanese i have it on good authority

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:43:10 2019 No.20702059 >>20701820 do whatever you think is fun. the beginning doesnt matter you just have to get through it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:01:37 2019 No.20702171 File: 25 KB, 1675x451, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why in the fuck is this structure spelled out in the DoJG grammar deck when it's immediately obvious if you already know both words?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:05:48 2019 No.20702200 I just change my method every month and whatever method it is I come on here and say it's the best way

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:07:19 2019 No.20702206 私は暃ず閠しいですけど、挧です。

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:13:04 2019 No.20702235 >>20702171 So you know it's a grammar concept and not just words that coincidentally work together.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:14:02 2019 No.20702239 File: 34 KB, 362x500, police.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20702235

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:22:40 2019 No.20702297

>>20702171
Grammar isn't the same thing as phrasing. It's obvious what 重要なのは means if you know all the parts but from a learner's perspective it's important to note that that's one of the ways "the important thing is" is expressed. I assume that's the thought process that went into including that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:23:42 2019 No.20702304 >>20702171 welcome to gaijin grammar

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:26:56 2019 No.20702325 >>20702304 Is it just me or is Japanese basically child grammar? >Before eat this >While we ate apple it was good

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:32:09 2019 No.20702350 >>20702325 no, you're just learning child japanese because you're a baby gaijin if you want real grammar i posted some in the last thread, give it a shot :-)　>>20696306

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:51:47 2019 No.20702460 >>20702350 makes sense to me any question you wanna ask

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:53:20 2019 No.20702470 the question is in your heart and u will know when it has been answered

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 22:54:02 2019 No.20702473 is the answer about recovering from a life of crime

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:09:20 2019 No.20702542 meh bought book 4 of japanese from zero.. going to skim it for a day and see if it's productive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:10:16 2019 No.20702549 >>20702542 why would you buy his books he's a good guy and has good (spoken) japanese but he's obviously a bad teacher

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:13:46 2019 No.20702558 >>20702549 Mix thing s up a bit and skim through it. Sometimes those books make something click somewhere. I don't expect much but it was only 10 bucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:14:46 2019 No.20702562 >>20702558 well whatever works for you i guess honestly if you're still at a stage where grammar books are useful you should just read more if you're capable of reading imo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:35:58 2019 No.20702650 >>20702549 Does JFZ actually have good spoken japanese? It's hard to believe that when he can't understand basic words in kid video games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:44:29 2019 No.20702691 >>20702650 he grew up in japan and worked as a professional interpreter for many years and interacts with japanese people in a natural fluent manner including using idiomatically appropriate metaphors and avoiding gaijin-isms

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:47:28 2019 No.20702698 >>20702691 this although he can't hear a lot of basic words in random videos and he can't read books.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:49:26 2019 No.20702707

>>20702650
I'm skimming it now already on page 30. Actually it's nothing but dialogue orientated and he almost only uses hiragana. Lot of keigo too, since this is volume 4. I'm just going to read all of the japanese in it, but it's like god damn over 400 pages.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:51:49 2019 No.20702716

>>20702691
It's just baffling there is zero evidence of that in the videos where he plays dragon quest or 12 year old girl quest.
I guess he's just illiterate and stupid, but otherwise "knows" japanese, as in maybe has japanese skills similar to an illiterate and particularly stupid native.

>>20702698
>he can't hear a lot of basic words in random videos
haven't seen this yet, wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:54:51 2019 No.20702729 >>20702716 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzIp2PtS-Wk

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 23:59:07 2019 No.20702748 >>20702729 well at least he's classy

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:06:35 2019 No.20702772

>>20702716
>I guess he's just illiterate and stupid, but otherwise "knows" japanese, as in maybe has japanese skills similar to an illiterate and particularly stupid native.
maybe a little worse than an illiterate and particularly stupid native adult, maybe as good as an illiterate and particularly stupid tween

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:11:20 2019 No.20702782 そうやすね

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:16:54 2019 No.20702794 >>20700683 Richard Feynman failed at it so never

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:18:48 2019 No.20702799 >>20702794 reminder that feynman failed at japanese because some idiot tried to teach him keigo before he knew the language

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:25:46 2019 No.20702816 >>20702799 they told him thats just the way it is and he threw a hissy fit over it, if youre thinking too much over feeling its on you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:27:02 2019 No.20702818 >>20702816 nah they literally tried to teach him keigo before he knew any real japanese like even baby shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:29:14 2019 No.20702823 File: 257 KB, 1600x1280, 258623.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20702729 fucking poverty breasts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:31:10 2019 No.20702826 >>20702818 それで？

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:36:27 2019 No.20702843 >>20702823 Senpai considers that to be poverty?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:41:27 2019 No.20702860 >>20699285 You're crazy smart. Did you use anki to expose yourself to kanji or you just read a lot? Also how many hours of anime?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 00:42:30 2019 No.20702862 >>20700616 Tae Kim grammar book or tae kim anki?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:34:46 2019 No.20702987 Does 私の always mean "My"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:56:39 2019 No.20703069 >>20702987 No. You're trying to translate too directly in to English. Instead, feel the grammar of Japanese. "私の" could mean me, mine, my... in any case it doesn't translate so directly. 本気で私のこと愛しているっていうの？ Do you really love me? No homo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:58:02 2019 No.20703071 >>20703069 I see, but in general it's possessive right?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:04:12 2019 No.20703092

>>20703071
Yeah, in general. But it's not to be confused with the unrelated usage #2 that goes at the end of a sentence.

1. http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/no_particle
2. http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/explanation

I hope you know about the threads on >>>/int/japanese

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:04:48 2019 No.20703096 Why is raw manga not considered good learning material? They all have Furigana which makes it easy to follow along.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:05:06 2019 No.20703099

>>20703071
The rough translation of 私のこと would be something like "about me" or "things about me". So in general, yeah, it's possessive.
But it's the sort of thing you get the feel for in time, as you keep improving. I suggest just rolling with it as possessive for now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:10:54 2019 No.20703118 Why the fuck would someone write 嘘 over うそ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:14:15 2019 No.20703137 >>20703118 the former proves you have a high IQ

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:41:49 2019 No.20703197

>>20702860
Both - I stopped using Anki once I realized that I had already become able to retain and expand my vocabulary without the aid of flashcards.
Approximately 1200 hours since November 2015, which is when I started studying the language. Not sure how many hours in total, maybe 2500-3000 or so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:46:02 2019 No.20703204 How long did it take you guys to memorize hiragana and katakana? I think i’ve memorized about 30 in about 2hrs over the span of 7 days.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:47:55 2019 No.20703207 >>20703204 A bit of study over the span of a couple of months. Fully internalized it in HS though.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 02:50:15 2019 No.20703209

I am having difficulty understanding the second line of this ED.

https://youtu.be/kxQTG07Lzbw

よぉ理解できるよ能力がチンコ一緒に歌おうよ！

With my current level of nihongo, I think this means "I understand. Your talent is your dick, so let's sing" but that doesn't really make sense. Am I missing something here? Does チンコ mean something else in this context?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 03:00:41 2019 No.20703223 >>20701995 and get slammed for my shit taste alright, you got me, it's キヨ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 03:14:12 2019 No.20703255 >>20703209 Ha, you're not mishearing it. Can the word がちんこ save the day? https://jisho.org/search/がちんこ >competing in earnest (n)

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 04:00:15 2019 No.20703319

I know most of the words in a short story but when listening I can only pick up about 5% of the words. The speech is relatively slow.
Should I start with something simpler (kinda like i+1 but for audio) or should I stick with the same thing and just listen to it 100 times since I know all the words?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 04:13:31 2019 No.20703343 i did 150 kanji reviews today and passed them all. you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:09:25 2019 No.20703491 Are there any 実況 sites other than nico and youtube? The only one of the game I want to watch on nico was deleted for whatever reason, and there doesn't seem to be anything else... I guess I shouldn't have expected much considering it's an ero RPG

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:09:35 2019 No.20703492 >>20703319 just listen to things that are cute and interesting that's more important than speed or repetition

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:12:32 2019 No.20703499 >>20703492 What's more important for a beginner, slower speed or knowing the words (even if you can't hear them well yet)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:13:53 2019 No.20703501 >>20703499 consuming things you have an extreme interest in and avoiding anything that doesnt excite you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:23:42 2019 No.20703524 >>20703501 Ok but regurgitated info aside, I gave two options: Slower speed or known words. Please save horse lives by not beating them to death. I know that interest is king.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:24:48 2019 No.20703526 >>20703096 it is good learning material but people like to be cheeky and say that manga isn't reading

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:26:20 2019 No.20703527 おはようおにいいちゃん瞼このかんじなんかいいかんじ？

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:29:38 2019 No.20703534 >>20703524 consuming things you have an extreme interest in and avoiding anything that doesnt excite you

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:32:11 2019 No.20703537

>>20703534
You're preaching to the choir, bucko. Of the two options and only the two options (slower speed or known words), which is more important? Not the most important, just of those two. I didn't want to think that there were people smart enough to know content is king but still stupid enough to not understand a simple question. Like fuck I'm trying to be respectful since I'm asking for info but this is getting ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:33:16 2019 No.20703544 >>20703537 consuming things you have an extreme interest in and avoiding anything that doesnt excite you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:35:36 2019 No.20703554 >>20703537 you will get faster and know more words if you consume things you have an extreme interest in and avoid things that doesn't excite you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:36:41 2019 No.20703557 File: 161 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_2019-01-24-10-35-01-594_me.ccrama.redditslide.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:37:08 2019 No.20703559 >>20703554 >>20703544 This has to be ankidrones false flagging.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:44:41 2019 No.20703582

>>20703537
It doesn't matter dude, listen to whatever you want. 100 hours of a variety of content and your listening will catch up to your reading ability anyway. Getting those hours in is more important than anything else so listen to whatever interests you the most.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:47:31 2019 No.20703587 >>20703559 we're just letting you know that you're retarded and wasting time on trival shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:47:34 2019 No.20703588 >>20703582 >Either or as long as you do it enough Nice thanks, guess I'll go for words then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:49:08 2019 No.20703590 >>20703588 based retard

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:50:40 2019 No.20703593

>>20703587
Not him but technically you're actually retarded for saying he's retarded because it does matter. You want the speed to be slow enough that you can process what's being said but not so slow that you cripple yourself. Known words are also important so you can actually learn to parse the words. I'd say known words is more important by far because you need to know what's actually being said but I assume he actually means knowing all the words or knowing maybe half of them... in which case, I'd just say do the known words and slow down the audio to maybe .80 or .70 of natural speed.

Anyway tl;dr his question wasn't retarded, you might be though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:54:01 2019 No.20703604 >>20703593 this is the kind of guy who will make a post on reddit about how he finally got n2 after studying for 10 years

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:55:13 2019 No.20703607 >>20703604 Krashen posts on reddit? I mean I guess I'm not surprised, reddit does get a lot more useful posters, some of which being field experts, while DJT gets shitposters and Nukemarine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:55:42 2019 No.20703610 >>20703593 sorry to hear that you failed n5.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 05:58:27 2019 No.20703618

>>20703593
It doesn't really matter though, if that anon can read his short story then he'll know enough to improve his listening no matter what content he chooses. Worry about ease is pointless because interest is what's most important since that's what will decide how many hours he puts in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:01:40 2019 No.20703631 >>20703618 That's also not true, i+1 is more important for actually learning and interest is only important to motivate you to keep going. It doesn't matter how interested in something you are, if it's i+100 you're not going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:04:37 2019 No.20703640 >>20703631 He's not acquiring language though, he's developing his ear, which has lagged behind his reading ability. Besides, >When enough comprehensible input is provided, i+1 is present.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:06:30 2019 No.20703648 >>20703631 Why do you ask questions here if you're already so smart and all knowing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:08:07 2019 No.20703655 >>20703648 Imagine being so schizo you think anyone who disagrees with you is the same person. >>20703640 You seem to be disagreeing with me but your green text agrees with me so I'm confused.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:10:02 2019 No.20703664 >>20703655 Imagine being so embarrassed about being exposed you lie on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:12:38 2019 No.20703675 >>20703664 Imagine being this retarded. Oh wait. Do you have anything meaningful to add or are you just going to continue trying to deflect the fact you were wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:13:57 2019 No.20703680 >>20703675 You'll pass the N2 next year, calm down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:14:32 2019 No.20703683 >>20703680 >Being so embarrassed that you were wrong that you try THIS HARD to change the subject.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:16:26 2019 No.20703685 File: 48 KB, 916x614, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:18:16 2019 No.20703691 okay guys time to go back to your childrens books, reading VERY slowly and listening at 0.0000000005% speed we'll pass the n5 together!!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:19:20 2019 No.20703693 If I listened to Krashen at 0.0000000005% speed I would still get more info in an hour than I get in a week in DJT lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:19:33 2019 No.20703694 just watch pepper pig

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:20:35 2019 No.20703697 File: 16 KB, 244x222, press 2 make ur yumes come true.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] info isnt how u learn japanese pressing this button is

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:20:44 2019 No.20703698

>>20703655
My point is anon's Japanese is at the level that he can consume pretty much anything and still get something out of it, so it doesn't really matter what he chooses. Also talk of i+1 doesn't apply because if one can read a sentence that can't be understood through listening, i.e. it's in one's i already, then the meaning of that sentence will eventually become clear through repeated listening no matter how complex it is which wouldn't be true for a sentence that isn't i or i+1. Acquiring language and developing listening are two different things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:23:17 2019 No.20703705 >>20703697 i like the file name haha its like make ur dreams come true but u replaced dreams with yumes haha (the japanese word for dreams haha)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:23:33 2019 No.20703706 >>20703698 >Acquiring language and developing listening are two different things. I agree with everything but this but I'm also the guy who doesn't think written language is language so there's that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:24:18 2019 No.20703708 >>20703705 gotta keep it i+1 for the kids : )

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:33:00 2019 No.20703736 Anki makes me miserable

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:37:42 2019 No.20703753 >>20703736 try doing it at 0.0000000005% speed i hear that helps

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:53:51 2019 No.20703796

>>20703705
It's like when kids learn their second language (you wouldn't relate to that if you're an eop), they can't help mixing it with their native language. Of course, the novelty's supposed to wear out as you learn said second language eventually and they should resume speaking their native language properly, but jamal never learned japanese and it seems he's restricted his own made up language.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 06:57:38 2019 No.20703807 File: 48 KB, 640x428, a12496eb-7515-4563-a5b5-250b24b1d9c1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] おにいちゃんおさしみこのまえいつたべた？

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:04:37 2019 No.20703837 >>20703807 nigga thats fucking raw fish im not gonna taberu that shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:22:31 2019 No.20703912 Should I add words to my Core6K deck when I'm mining or should I run two decks alongside eachother?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:35:07 2019 No.20703965 Do you guys include the time OPs/EDs take when counting hours of input? I always have a dilemma as whether to track shows as ~20 minutes or their full length (24/25 minutes)Am I just autistic?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:36:00 2019 No.20703969 ur definitely on the spectrum

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:36:01 2019 No.20703970 >>20703837 シュリンプ　えびも？

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:38:31 2019 No.20703978 えびは海のゴキブリマジきしょ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 07:48:46 2019 No.20704008 >>20703978 ロブスターいせえびも？

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:21:57 2019 No.20704121 >>20699363 >>20699379 >>20699381 >>20699414 >>20700616 Manga isn't reading though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:32:46 2019 No.20704160 >>20702020 picked up

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:44:08 2019 No.20704219

>>20703965
i dont track time i just enjoy the content you should try that
if you want to really play the numbers game though cutting out the op and ed isnt enough you need to go through every episode and cut out every period of silence that lasts more than 3 seconds
gasping yelling and moaning count as silence

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 08:53:34 2019 No.20704253 言って https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F64yFFnZfkI

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:01:07 2019 No.20704290 わたしはゲイと言ってました

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:02:16 2019 No.20704298 go back to roel

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:04:29 2019 No.20704309 File: 1.47 MB, 3185x1348, 1381769819807.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:10:29 2019 No.20704342 for real though post some real shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw7nMbCMR0g

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:19:11 2019 No.20704381 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBPnA2BgqLg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:23:00 2019 No.20704402 i was amped until the bookaru hit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:23:22 2019 No.20704403 >>20704298 Based I fucking love her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFTV3IIjeNw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:23:30 2019 No.20704404 >>20704309 Is the 美味しう not a mistake? also the general kanji use seems quite unnatural

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:25:54 2019 No.20704407 >>20702325 you're just translating it shittily to make it seem that way

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:28:23 2019 No.20704413 >>20704404 it should be 美味しそう and the kanji usage is not that rare

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:38:16 2019 No.20704442 About to hit 2k in the Core 2k/6k deck, do (You) personally suggest carrying on for the rest of the deck or stopping at the 2k? The trade off is my time spent trying to actually read novels / VNs.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:41:11 2019 No.20704451

>>20704442
i cant remember if i quit core at 1k or 2k but at one point i had wished i kept srsing it until 6k and then later on i didnt regret stopping it at all. if you think it helps you go for it. if you think it takes away time from reading real japanese then quit it is all i can say

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:47:31 2019 No.20704464
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>>20704442
>>20704451
also read that pastebin posted earlier. basically the 2000 most common words you are going to see so often if you read. you cant help but know them so having them in srs is kind of a waste of time in a way

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:49:38 2019 No.20704471 >>20704253 Been listening to this song so much lately, really love it. Although I love just about everything from ヨルしか to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:51:47 2019 No.20704479 >>20704442 i didnt do core but i stopped at something like 1500 vocab and >>20704451 >at one point i had wished i kept srsing it until 6k and then later on i didnt regret stopping it at all this keep takin in that compellin content and itll work out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 09:56:24 2019 No.20704499 >>20701424 just don't read the subs. Only look at them if there is a word you don't know

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:03:17 2019 No.20704536 >>20704499 if youre at the point where subs can help you with this wouldnt that be almost every line

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:13:26 2019 No.20704586 >>20702235 what in the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:33:47 2019 No.20704662 File: 94 KB, 251x240, 1515594762545.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Passed N3, later virgins

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:35:39 2019 No.20704671 no if u passed n3 that means ur djt posting career has just begun

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:35:52 2019 No.20704674 Suggest me some good jpop fellow ninjas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:38:24 2019 No.20704686 >>20703607 >some of which being field experts lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:40:11 2019 No.20704695 >>20704662 like 3 people in here just got the n1 with like 97%

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:46:07 2019 No.20704715 >>20699285 When did you drop anki? Like how many cards in

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:48:46 2019 No.20704731 >>20704715 I never did. It's the only way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:51:35 2019 No.20704742 >>20704731 This guy's real name stands by the definition of nerd when you open a dictionary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:52:06 2019 No.20704746 >>20703965 i don't count ops/eds because i skip them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:52:30 2019 No.20704749 >>20704731 I'm going to go buy my N1 before I pick up Anki again for writing just to spite you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:54:12 2019 No.20704757 what is the bump limit for thse threads?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:00:14 2019 No.20704782 >>20704757 300

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:00:19 2019 No.20704783 >>20704479 Did you quit reviewing those 1k-2k words you had already SRS'd or did you completely abandon anki at that point?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:12:45 2019 No.20704833 >>20704715 I'm not sure. Maybe 10000-12000 or so. >>20704731 Yes I did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:17:09 2019 No.20704852 File: 44 KB, 1000x461, obxSXcmTSD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf is this notepad george uses? seems super helpful for japanese note taking

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:17:45 2019 No.20704859

>>20704783
half were in a deck i deleted because i did dumb shit and had bad retention on vocab that was useless to me
other half from proper mining i kept reviewing when i stopped adding cards and started to take reading more seriously but i consider that more wasted time
by the time i really started to feel like my vocab was growing after all that extra work in anki seemed very inefficient
if i were to theorize id say that the shit you got in anki is divided into two categories
theres shit that youre doing alright on which youll get down fine through continued exposure in reading
and theres shit that youre having a hard time getting down which youre not really ready for without running into more contextual examples and related words and you are wasting your time on trying to force it
that second category also stands out when youre reading and makes you feel like you aint learnin shit but you just gotta relax and let the nihongo come to you while you just focus on enjoying the content
my experience is hardly controlled enough to be evidence though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:19:35 2019 No.20704871 >>20704852 >Learn Japanese From Zero!19 日前 >We have a bunch of custom tools in Word. Also made it easier to use on a live stream. I haven't really talked about it on a video though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:21:47 2019 No.20704885 >>20704871 cool thanks, I'll have to figure out how to get my evernote to do some of that shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:44:24 2019 No.20704960 食べちゃいかんのじゃないか can someone explain this verb conjugation for me? whats かんの doing here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:44:48 2019 No.20704961 >>20704464 read the manga instead. anime looks like garbage

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:49:48 2019 No.20704975 >>20704960 maybe たべちゃいかんのじゃないか

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:53:27 2019 No.20704994 File: 52 KB, 400x400, 1545828735472.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm a Tae Kim man myself. Seems to be the conservative choice. Has George got something better going?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:00:06 2019 No.20705018 >>20704960 ちゃ = slurring of てはいかん = slurring of いけないたべちゃいかん = 食べてはいけない

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:01:03 2019 No.20705024 >>20704994 now this is a status quo post

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:02:56 2019 No.20705032 >>20705018 >ちゃ = slurring of ては

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:04:54 2019 No.20705036 this should be good

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:04:54 2019 No.20705037 >>20705032 Give me a better explanation then nerd ;)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:08:04 2019 No.20705050 >>20704994 Dictionary of Japanese Grammar shits on both of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:10:13 2019 No.20705057 >>20704961 it is garbage. im not gonna do either since they are both kind of stupid but i think i learned 林間学校 from the manga so i have to thank it for that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:10:17 2019 No.20705058 its funny how scrubs poo poo eng subbed anime but use english guides and resources that do even less for u

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:11:28 2019 No.20705063 >>20705032 ちゃ〔連語〕《連語「ては」の音変化》「ては」のくだけた言い方。ちゃあ。「食べ―いけません」「遅れ―たいへんだ」

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:14:06 2019 No.20705071 ちゃ the thing u drink when it is time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:16:18 2019 No.20705079 >>20705018 based anon, thank you very much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:26:20 2019 No.20705119 取る・撮る・録る・盗る・摂る・採る・執る wtf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:28:23 2019 No.20705122 File: 402 KB, 1080x2220, Screenshot_20190124-122653_Twitter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does this mean

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:29:58 2019 No.20705128 >>20705122 means im fed up wit all this bullshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:30:22 2019 No.20705130 >>20705063 >>20705071 how the FUCK does anyone learn this language

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:32:13 2019 No.20705138 >>20705058 Thats why i like dojg its to the point examples and 2/3rds of it is japanese and easy to understand. They abreviate all of the english too like s.o. (someone) s.t. (something). It's ahead of it's time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:33:02 2019 No.20705141 The eternal new year's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:33:16 2019 No.20705144 >>20705130 somewhere on a japanese board they're saying the same thing about english right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:33:39 2019 No.20705146 >>20705130 There are three simple rules that will guarantee your success. Put in some effort, be persistent and don't be a whiny bitch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:33:53 2019 No.20705150 >>20705130 dewa djwah chya not hard to see. english slang and slurs are way worse. especially american no ebonics desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:34:35 2019 No.20705154 >>20699232 Honestly, how long does it take to learn japanese? I am italian btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:34:57 2019 No.20705155 >>20705144 greentexting eigo rap lyrics like they do

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:36:33 2019 No.20705161 >>20705018 Am I going to make it if I didn't realize until now that ちゃ isn't related to ちゃう?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:36:54 2019 No.20705162 >>20705154 18 months if you're a dedicated neet 3 years if not a neet but consistent 15 years if you're nuke

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:37:09 2019 No.20705163 File: 357 KB, 2069x969, hentai chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20705130 there are 3 simple things that will guarantee ur success https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzOAsyzM8E4#t=153 10000 hours of eng subbed anime pic soredake

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:39:46 2019 No.20705171 >>20705154 日本語を勉強はちょっと難しい対してイタリア語と英語です。 maybe idk if i wrotw that right. for english and italian speakers learning japanese is a lttle difficult. the thing is at least its a cool language

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:40:05 2019 No.20705176 >>20705162 18 months if you are a genius, i guess I know that those who study japanese at the university after 4-5 years still don't know it very fluently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:40:19 2019 No.20705177 >>20705161 No, it's over for you buddy. Time to give up

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:40:35 2019 No.20705179 holy shit ive never seen some1 that ded lmfao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:41:07 2019 No.20705181 >>20705171 But it kinda seems similar to latin?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:41:18 2019 No.20705182 >>20705171 Dude, what. You need to watch more anime.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:42:09 2019 No.20705184 Let's face it. Watching anime doesn't help at all

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:42:26 2019 No.20705187 >>20705171 Oh no the resident dago is back in action!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:42:34 2019 No.20705189 >>20705181 japanese? idk i dont have latin studies, all i know is italian was pretty easy for me to learn >>20705179 abroad in japan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:42:52 2019 No.20705191 fuck i read that post im scared i wanted to make it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:43:07 2019 No.20705192 it helps a lot anyone whos put in the time to watch 10000 hours of it >>20705187 lmfao i havent heard dago in like 20 years ftw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:43:38 2019 No.20705195 >>20705189 What's your native language?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:43:53 2019 No.20705196

To those who choose not to take the JLPT, why? I searched the archives a little bit but found nothing relevant (if I missed it give me a link). I have studied Japanese for a few years, but have never been interested in the JLPT, and don’t see myself taking it in the future. I’m interested in hearing why other learners decide not to take it/ have no interest in the JLPT, if anyone cares to share.

My reasons are:
>Never believed standardized tests were a good way to measure ones ability.
>Don’t foresee my future where a certification like that will be required.
>After having studied from various JLPT books (mosty grammar), realized that constantly reading native material helps me remember new grammar points better than studying them in the abstract.
>Don’t like that it only tests reading and listening.

Having said that, this isn’t a post to shit on the JLPT or be like “why do people even take it?!” I know it’s really valuable for some people’s futures, and other people like the motivational aspect of test taking, or want to see how they compare to others, etc. Just interested about why others decide not to take it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:44:29 2019 No.20705198 it costs money and i already know japanese next

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:44:58 2019 No.20705200 Is JLPT important in Japan? Do they ask you that for giving a a job?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:45:07 2019 No.20705202

>>20705176
Most of them are so bad they can't even pass n1, and I took japanese in college for a year and didn't learn shit. I learned more in a month of neetdom then I did that whole year. It's a snowball effect. When you have all that time to anime, read, and anki they all help eachother and your progress will be pretty rapid. You're forgetting like 93% of what you learn so it's more of a constant exposure thing than anything. Speaking of which I need to close this tab and get back to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:45:19 2019 No.20705203 >>20705187 私はイタリア人じゃない >>20705195 english

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:45:36 2019 No.20705204 >>20705184 Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:48:25 2019 No.20705217 >>20705196 n2 and 1 are super imporant for employment >>20705202 the issue with learning japanese in uni is its formalised in the wrong manner imo. plus theres way too many chinese people doing japanese it becomes rather alienating

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:49:49 2019 No.20705221 if ur gonna make posts that bad u can start capitalizing ur sentences again

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:50:04 2019 No.20705222 >>20705203 Fuck off Anthonio you're not fooling anyone!

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:51:10 2019 No.20705228

>>20705184
It obviously helps, just like any form of exposure to native content. I found Anime particularly helpful early on when I was still only finding my bearings, it's just not very efficient and very limited compared to the absurdly broad spectrum of things you can find if you expose yourself to other forms of media, so it won't get you beyond basic level by itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:52:16 2019 No.20705231 ill take a guy who just learned a language over a guy who claims to have done more efficient learning of a language any day

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:53:02 2019 No.20705233 >>20705231 luckily you dont make up the majority of patreon supporters so our kingdom is safe

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:53:11 2019 No.20705234 >>20705196 I don't a reason not to do something. It works the other way around. What good would taking JLPT do me besides giving me a vague assessment of my proficiency with Japanese, which I don't really care about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:53:49 2019 No.20705238 >>20705171 you wrote gibberish

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:54:28 2019 No.20705240 >>20705234 >I don't a reason not to do something. I don't need a reason*

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:54:45 2019 No.20705242

>>20705196
This is reddit. I hate pointless faggot-ass circlejerk posts like these. Like there's any fucking reason you'd need to hear why people don't care about the JLPT if you've spelled out the reasons. The only ones left out would be commute, money, etc. Who cares to hear about that? What was the point of this? It was probably to signal how you don't care about the JLPT. I don't care about it either but I don't need to farm upboats on some faggot ass website. I fucking hate plebbit. Fucking shit hole.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:54:47 2019 No.20705243 imagine literally paying this guy money https://streamable.com/hlr5f

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:57:55 2019 No.20705255 >>20705243 it's crazy how much better he is than george though. proves how immersion in your own country is way more beneficial than small talk in japan

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:03:47 2019 No.20705279

I'm quite interested in literacy levels in Nippon. Let's take a construction worker that was pretty lazy and bad at school. Will such a guy be able to read a simple book for children, like for example Harry Potter? How about regular news papers? I simply can't imagine that such a person, would be able to actively hold 2000 kanji in his brain. I'm not even sure if 400 is even realistic.
Is there a special kind of public aid for such retards, or are they simply left out to die on the streets?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:03:56 2019 No.20705280 matts so good thats why he still has 0 proof vids/content and instead exhibits all the signs that hes complete garbo like this https://streamable.com/yr6fm even this guy is better https://streamable.com/x545u

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:08:19 2019 No.20705296 >>20705280 God fucking damnit, I have the exact same uniqlo jacket as this guy I'm fucked

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:10:47 2019 No.20705302 >>20705280 what book is he referring to with the philosophical stuff? without that context its hard to tell what we're supposed to take from the clip

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:11:57 2019 No.20705307 >>20705279 The school I attended held night classes for mature students so I imagine theres some stream for people that want to learn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:13:09 2019 No.20705308 >>20705279 (You)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:13:28 2019 No.20705311 >>20705171 Based lowercase posters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:14:03 2019 No.20705312 >>20705280 whos the second guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:16:05 2019 No.20705320 Why learn Japanese when you can learn Esperanto

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:16:58 2019 No.20705324 >https://djtguide.neocities.org/cor.html SO, which software is usefull to learn all the 2136 Jōyō kanji?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:17:19 2019 No.20705327

>>20705312
idk some dude someone linked like last week he literally died in the middle of a video from a charlie horse or some shit and broke nihongo mode to get up and stumble off to groan and express pain in english and then sat down and started talking in nihongo again it was the funniest shit i ever saw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:17:19 2019 No.20705328 >>20705280 he has patreon videos that have been posted and memed here where his speaking is a billion times better than george's

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:18:03 2019 No.20705329

>>20705307
You mean native people? I suspect there has to be some kind of peasant problem. You shouldn't forget, that many if not most people read close to nothing in their daily lives. I imagine it's quite hard for them to remember all the kanji correctly and I'm not even sure if they even knew them all at some point. Otherwise every student would make only A's in kanji class, but I'm pretty sure that there are many who are barely making it, if not completely fail the classes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:18:54 2019 No.20705332 Is japanese grammar easy? I read that if you learn all the kanji then it's all downhill from there

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:20:41 2019 No.20705339 https://streamable.com/l6h0h a billion times better than what now

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:22:59 2019 No.20705345

>>20705332
I think it depends on how anal you are about it. Grammar is always hard if you want to master it. Not even native speakers have good grammar if you ask linguists with a grammar fetish. Other than that I think japanese is pretty easy and is a pretty savage tier language, comparable to native american or african tribe languages.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:23:33 2019 No.20705348 あはははは、かっこいい（汗）

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:24:33 2019 No.20705350 >>20705327 if youve got that link im key for it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:25:41 2019 No.20705353 >>20705350 i fuckin dont dude and i cant look for it right now but that dude was the shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:27:10 2019 No.20705360 >>20705345 >pretty easy and is a pretty savage tier language you mean they usually use a very poor grammar?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:28:12 2019 No.20705363

>>20705329
Yeah natives that were over 18, I think into their 20's? I mean classes are divided by general grade but I'm not sure exactly how bad they are. Even if you don't read newspapers anything digital and most books have furigana plus NHK has a simple news section

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:28:38 2019 No.20705365 >>20705332 10000 hours of anime teach you grammar

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:29:23 2019 No.20705372 僕が悪かったですよんね！

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:29:24 2019 No.20705373 >>20705339 yea like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:32:37 2019 No.20705380 >>20705324 How about you read the guide before asking?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:32:57 2019 No.20705382

>>20705348
>かっこいい
That was pretty hard to read, why didn't you simply type 格好いい.

>>20705360
No I meant it's pretty easy compared to everything that came out of latin / germanic / slavic. I has almost no conjugations and otherwise pretty simple rules. Also they tend to leave away many word. So they often use sentences like.
>me eat
or even
>eat
when it's clear that it's about you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:34:22 2019 No.20705390 >>20705363 I suspect many young lazy neets are completely ridiculing themselves when they first join the workforce. At work people are probably constantly competing with rare kanji to show off how smart they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:35:33 2019 No.20705397 >>20705380 >https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html This one? Sorry, I'm new

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:36:30 2019 No.20705400 >>20705397 Yes you will find everything you will ever need there. Not even kidding, this is probably the best guide you will find all over the interwebs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:38:03 2019 No.20705403 What the fuck guys, you told me core10k was a meme >>>/int/100597890 >>>/int/100598731 >>>/int/100599358

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:40:11 2019 No.20705411 >>20705390 I wonder lol, I doubt anyone cares about that. Plus how would people know?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:41:48 2019 No.20705416 >>20705353 >>20705350 >>20623945 its all gone he probably quit

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:42:55 2019 No.20705422

>>20705382
i don't like using those kanji to spell that word.

also i don't know german or latin but saying there are almost no conjugations in japanese makes it seem like you haven't studied japanese grammar from a japanese point of view. or maybe you have and should clarify your points.

also literally translating japanese to english makes it seem savage but it doesn't really feel that way when it's said in japanese

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:43:33 2019 No.20705426

>>20705403
I think what most people are trying to say is:
>core2k is already enough to start reading with easy and create your own deck that way. You will learn faster words, you picked up from context.
>grinding 10k is boring to most people and not worth the effort
>the deck is generally pretty bad from 6k to 10k

I kinda agree, but I have to say, that a major selling point of the core decks is the audio. I hate doing decks without audio or with artificial audio, because I'm always pronouncing it a little bad when I only read it. I'm hoping for the Tango decks though, there is really hope for a better 10k deck this time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:44:46 2019 No.20705430 I passed N1 bros. Did I make it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:46:37 2019 No.20705438 >>20705345 >pretty easy and is a pretty savage tier language, comparable to native american or african tribe languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquian_languages#Grammatical_features

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:47:03 2019 No.20705439 File: 164 KB, 2048x1608, 1547409667316.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20705430 Me too bro, we fucking made it. Dekinai-chan can suck my dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:47:39 2019 No.20705443 >>20705426 today's mining tools mine audio.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:47:56 2019 No.20705445 >>20705430 Depends on your score.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:51:41 2019 No.20705457 >>20705445 157/180 >>20705439 Grats bro

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:51:52 2019 No.20705459

>>20705422
I'm mean there aren't things like:
Je vais
Tu vas
Il/Elle va
Nous allons
Vous allez
Ils/Elles vont
Past Participle – allé

See more: https://takelessons.com/live/french/common-irregular-french-verbs-z04
There are also verbs that conjugate regularly, but you have to know about 400 of those stupid irregular ones. Then there are grammatical cases and tenses, male and female, singular and plural and shit like that. For example english has 12 common tenses and some additional crazy ones. Every language is different and has different challenges, but compared to that, japanese is easy even compared to english which is already pretty laughable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:52:19 2019 No.20705460 Does Suiseiseki accentuate desu more than is recommended?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:52:39 2019 No.20705461 >>20705400 I see where I should start from...Namasensei

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:58:19 2019 No.20705480 >>20705443 How and from what sources? Or do you refer to mining tools that mine source with audio, like VN's or even Anime?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:58:32 2019 No.20705481 >>20705416 that is bull shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:59:07 2019 No.20705483 I stopped mining and using anki but I don't want to be dependent on dictionaries

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:59:43 2019 No.20705486 >>20705480 japanesepod101 this is old hat shit dude even rikaisama supported it you've been living a lie http://assets.languagepod101.com/dictionary/japanese/audiomp3.php?kana=%E3%81%97%E3%82%87%E3%81%86%E3%81%92%E3%81%8D&kanji=%E8%A1%9D%E6%92%83

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:01:35 2019 No.20705489 >>20705459 oh i see what you mean now yeah. japanese is pretty solid and dependable with few exceptions in regards to how verbs and adjectives conjugate. i can't speak to the difficulty since i only know english and japanese though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:01:46 2019 No.20705490 >>20705196 My horniness is a better indicator for how good at reading vns I am than the jlpt is.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:03:22 2019 No.20705496

>>20705459
Oh maybe I should clarify, because for an english speaker this is probably not obvious. The verb we try to conjugate in frenche here is "aller" which means "to go". So the list there is the same as:
I go
you go
he / she goes
we go
you go
they go
past - went (pretty strange and irregular, isn't it)

Imagine doing this for hundrets of irregular verbs and even for the regular ones there are quite some different categories with different rules. Of course the most common verbs are always the worst (even with japanese), but still.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:06:48 2019 No.20705506 >>20705483 mining?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:07:14 2019 No.20705508 >>20705490 this guy is gonna make it

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:12:50 2019 No.20705523

>>20705489
I'm a beginner with japanese, but the main difficulty I see is when and how to apply certain particles and when and how to leave away stuff. But I don't think it's that bad. The main concepts are pretty foreign, but quite easy to grasp and most things will begin to make sense over time. I don't think it would make much sense to learn more than the 750 Tae Kim grammar cards on Anki (after reading Tae Kim once time)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:14:57 2019 No.20705532 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk-y_pY_YDY

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:21:38 2019 No.20705549 had to pause to lol in less than 3 seconds in hey guys sentenceminer here lmfao

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:22:50 2019 No.20705552

How is 思 used?

I'm very new to learning the language so I apologize if this is a dumb question, but I'm trying to understand how 思 is used.

I can't figure out how to type it, the best I've been able to manage so far is either going to google translate to use the handwriting recognition, then copy/pasting or I recently found I can type shiu to get 思羽 then I can backspace off the 羽.

Where I've seen it most lately is in the word 思ってる (or 思っている) which I think means "a continuous state of thinking" or something like that. I've seen that romanized as ommatte(i)ru, but it seems like the kanji itself is し. It also seems to be written out as おま sometimes, are those just alternate readings?

Does it just mean think by itself, or does it need to be written as 思う to mean think?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:23:36 2019 No.20705555 File: 774 KB, 806x681, 1548187132411.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:24:44 2019 No.20705558 >>20705486 pretty cool thanks. Do you know of any resource that also have a full sentence for each word?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:25:08 2019 No.20705560 >>20705552 思う思い

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:26:55 2019 No.20705567 File: 56 KB, 583x435, 1540299737745.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20705552 >と思う

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:31:54 2019 No.20705582 >>20704695 ye but he got n3 which is 3 times better than n1 can you even read english

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:36:48 2019 No.20705597

>>20705560
look under readings: https://jisho.org/search/%E6%80%9D%20%23kanji

this kanji can be read as "shi" or as "omo" depending on where it is placed and with what other symbols together. You can either memorize this by learning words from context or by learning all readings and meaning for a kanji. Both ways have their pros and cons, but the later approach seems more popular in general.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:37:03 2019 No.20705599 >>20705532 >this run feels completely different he thinks its goin good this time but the next run will be amazing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:38:05 2019 No.20705601 >>20705597 please stop hurting innocent resolutioners to shiimasu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:41:56 2019 No.20705612 >>20701326 is there other stuff like this? Especially audio books would be great. I tried a few anime drama cd's but I think they are still a bit above my level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:43:32 2019 No.20705620 >>20705612 http://momoirocode.web.fc2.com/ The webcomic is pretty good too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:43:32 2019 No.20705621 File: 148 KB, 1909x1073, 思える.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] としいます

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:49:57 2019 No.20705639 >>20705620 >http://momoirocode.web.fc2.com/ This seems extremely promising, but can you give me a hint on how to play it? What word am I looking for? Something like "stream" or "play" perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:50:25 2019 No.20705640 >>20705532 calvin's gay right? i didn't put it all together until i saw his blog theme was pink and then it all made sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:51:42 2019 No.20705647 >>20705555 >Learn hiragana and katakana, this shouldnt take longer than 2 days. 2 weeks in and I still have problems

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:52:27 2019 No.20705649 >>20705647 ignore it. it's completely baseless. plenty of people take weeks to learn the kana and end up OK.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:52:45 2019 No.20705651 >>20705640 Pink is extremely masculine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:53:25 2019 No.20705653 >>20705647 you dont need to be at 100% before you move on just read more

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:53:59 2019 No.20705655 >>20705640 i thought it was to raise breast cancer awareness as hes a fat titty boy who had breast cancer but beat it thanks to early detection

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:54:33 2019 No.20705657 >>20705555 Can you post this pic without the paint editing? It seems helpful

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:56:09 2019 No.20705664 >>20705558 no, you don't want full sentence audio while reviewing anyways, it makes cards take too long

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:56:25 2019 No.20705666 someone pm calvin and let him know djt is here to help

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 14:58:57 2019 No.20705673 >>20705657 The editing is more useful than whatever is under it.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:01:14 2019 No.20705680

Is sengoku rance considered good because of the gameplay, or the story? So far the story seems pretty shallow and I'm not sure it has a lot of reading value especially since 70% of the time I'm spending looking up these ancient names that aren't even pronounced like they're spelled. I found evenicle a lot more fun and compelling.

>>	- Thu Jan 24 15:02:21 2019 No.20705687 >>20705647 just use flash cards until you cant forget them it should only take a day for hiragana. its normal to mix them up especially katakana because theyre designed terribly, just be able to recognize when somethings not right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:02:33 2019 No.20705688 i mean its about conquering nippwn and fuckin bitch generals its like the ultimate sengoku game

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:04:09 2019 No.20705693 Don't forget: anyone who suggests flash cards has never learned a language other than their mother tongue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:04:16 2019 No.20705695 >>20705666 what is calvins twitter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:05:31 2019 No.20705701 >>20705687 >flash cards I used that kana-reading program of the guide.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:05:35 2019 No.20705703 >>20705695 sentenceminer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:07:02 2019 No.20705704 >>20705680 the gameplay is like A+++ tier but the story is still good if you care about the story you should play the series starting from 01 and 03

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:07:09 2019 No.20705706 https://twitter.com/sentenceminer i swear these people are in some sort of matrix and matt is like the architect

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:07:41 2019 No.20705711

Potentially retarded question. When reviewing sentences in Anki, should I only be passing the card if I can both understand the meaning and know what it sounds like? Often times I’ll know the meaning of the kanji and thus of the sentence but can’t recall what it sounds like. Should I be failing the card until I know both the meaning and the sound?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:08:16 2019 No.20705715 is that the best reference you could come up with

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:10:06 2019 No.20705722 >>20705706 matt is charismatic and jewish unlike you 4chan nerds lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:10:43 2019 No.20705725 >>20705711 Imagine if you read this sentence and you don't know the sound of half the words. How would you sound it out in your head?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:11:18 2019 No.20705729 nothin more charismatic than comic books on the walls of his dads house and a neckbeard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:11:28 2019 No.20705731 >>20705711 yes you should fail it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:14:45 2019 No.20705743 my guess is its a converted detached garage which is symbolic of being partially disowned but not completely abandoned i think a lot of us here can relate

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:15:29 2019 No.20705744 Is there any way to order books from Japan without paying my entire life savings in shipping costs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:16:38 2019 No.20705746 pirate them and throw them on your ipad

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:16:54 2019 No.20705747 >>20705744 it's worth it man just read them one at a time and youll have made enough money to buy the next one by the time you finish reading it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:17:38 2019 No.20705750 >>20705744 Order with a friend/friends who you can split the shipping costs with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:18:12 2019 No.20705752 >>20705747 >youll have made enough money to buy the next one speak for yourself some of us cant afford to eat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:19:14 2019 No.20705755 >>20705750 >friend woah now >friends hold your horses

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:19:39 2019 No.20705756 >>20705752 Why are you spending time shitposting on jaypee instead of working your 4th job or stealing your grandmother's silverware?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:20:06 2019 No.20705759 i fucking love yokogaki

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:21:19 2019 No.20705762 >>20705756 >4th job >3rd job >2nd job >job >>20705759 scum

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:22:11 2019 No.20705766 >>20705762 If you can shitpost you can work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:23:28 2019 No.20705774 >>20705766 no doubt about it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:28:32 2019 No.20705785 >>20705766 i have social anxiety so no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:31:13 2019 No.20705798 was curious about the hot new text hooker and chuckled when default settings google translated every line now i dont need to learn japanese

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:31:24 2019 No.20705799 social anxiety is the weakest excuse ever all u gotta do is remove ur baby lifeline and ull get over that shit real quick

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:32:42 2019 No.20705805

>>20705711
I think it highly depends on what you want to achieve. If you simply want to be able to read japanese text, don't fail it. However you will have a hard time to go to spoken japanese later like this. It's a common trap for people who highly immerse in written content only. You basically are doing kanji -> english meaning and are skipping japanese.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:39:29 2019 No.20705829 File: 8 KB, 635x156, 語彙.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www1.odn.ne.jp/drinkcat/quiz/test100.html Post 'em. (Note: no zakos please, this one's for the big boys.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:40:40 2019 No.20705835 everyones all about focus on what matters to you kind a shit and thats respectable but the thought of someone spendin years misreadin easy words is really somethin not as bad as the willfully illiterates though

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:40:41 2019 No.20705836

yeah i think you will be able to sight read really quickly that way but you can't say you really know the word if you can't pronounce it. meaning and pronunciation isn't too bad for a flashcard.

theres no rule where you cant split them up into two flashcards either. one where it tests the meaning and one where it tests the reading

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:43:00 2019 No.20705849 File: 59 KB, 477x636, 1517382118273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 米米米 /we/ have the best kanji.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:43:28 2019 No.20705853 >>20705836 So anglos don't know anything then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:45:41 2019 No.20705862 >>20705853 were talkin about to omou vs to siu not about bein mistaken for a native like itiban tuyoi gaizin

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:47:10 2019 No.20705869 >>20705706 >Japanese was the right choice of language for me. I am glad I made the right decision.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:49:46 2019 No.20705876 File: 13 KB, 200x275, 23822[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 聴いてよう、アカリチャン! ん? 良いこと思いつきました! なにゃ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:50:40 2019 No.20705881 if karubin doesnt make it im gonna be so sad ill quit readin for a day like a symbolic pour one out sort of thing anyone with me

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:53:08 2019 No.20705890 >>20705876 ワタシ、ユーメージッキョーシャーニナリマス

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:54:10 2019 No.20705895 File: 21 KB, 400x349, Udklip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] still pretty bad but 50 or so up since i read my last novel. people with higher scores than me, how did you do it? https://www.sokunousokudoku.net/hakarukun/check.php

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 15:55:00 2019 No.20705896 >>20705895 i have the same kind of score as you but i know a bunch of people who read twice as fast as me and they got good by reading a lot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:02:58 2019 No.20705905 File: 13 KB, 500x124, キャプチャ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol i had to hit わからない on a lot of them i had never seen before

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:07:04 2019 No.20705923 >>20705895 I got 566 for 社会人, 縦書き, and I feel like I'm still a very slow reader. I don't think there's anything to do except read more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:07:13 2019 No.20705926 >>20705486 is there a dictionary that can automatically export to anki with audio? It doesn't matter if I have to pay for it, but it should have a usable mobile version.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:08:39 2019 No.20705937 File: 6 KB, 1126x80, 1537597459853.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help me out dudes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:09:56 2019 No.20705941 if u dont know it u click wakaranai no cheating otherwise you are LARPing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:10:06 2019 No.20705943 >>20705937 the 2nd one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:10:13 2019 No.20705944 >>20705937 Pick the answer with こと

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:10:30 2019 No.20705945 >>20705937 all of the above

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:18:58 2019 No.20705972 >>20705937 It says at the top of the page that some words may have more than one correct answer.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:19:08 2019 No.20705973
File: 1.30 MB, 1295x758, ReLief.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Can anyone help me with this sentence?
I can't really wrap my head around what she's saying. "In the end, I irresponsibly cast away my right of choice under the banner of coincidence"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:20:09 2019 No.20705974 >>20705972 fuck I'm stupid and can't read, thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:21:10 2019 No.20705978 >The masu stem of practically all the verbs can be used as a noun, except Sino-Japanes suru-verbs. Wow. Japanese is an amazing language...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:22:03 2019 No.20705982 >masu stem lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:23:43 2019 No.20705991 >>20705982 What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:26:31 2019 No.20706000 >>20705991 It's called 連用形, kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:27:21 2019 No.20706001 >>20706000 what a nerd lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:28:09 2019 No.20706008 >>20706000 Dude I'm still learning chill...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:30:01 2019 No.20706016 its not that the kangxi is important its that genki tier grammar terms are amusing id be happy with continuative form or whatever makes you feel warm inside

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:30:58 2019 No.20706020 what are you learning?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:32:33 2019 No.20706024 im learning about the compelling stories of eroge characters

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:33:40 2019 No.20706028 >>20705973 Not sure why you're calling it a banner, but yeah, that's what it says. What's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:33:57 2019 No.20706029 >>20705890 あほか？

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:34:59 2019 No.20706033 >>20706028 It just seemed like a convoluted sentence so I was doubting if I even read it right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:36:06 2019 No.20706035 >>20706020 I'm learning that 上に can mean "moreover" or "not only, but also...".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:37:12 2019 No.20706042 File: 19 KB, 377x331, yukkuri.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20705895 I read absolutely everything slowly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:37:49 2019 No.20706044 >>20706035 I think it may also mean something along the lines of "seeing that..." or "since x is the case"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:38:45 2019 No.20706047 File: 7 KB, 480x125, 1529756382411.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20705829

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:43:09 2019 No.20706065 Which kanji would you guys want to cum inside of?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:44:20 2019 No.20706072 this one looks tight

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:44:35 2019 No.20706074 凹

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:45:09 2019 No.20706077 >>20706065 膣

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:45:13 2019 No.20706080 >>20706065 姦

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:45:37 2019 No.20706082 >>20706065 蜜壺

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:45:44 2019 No.20706083 wtf it didn't display my こめじるし

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:45:52 2019 No.20706084 >>20706065 call me what you will but for me its all about 膣

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:49:02 2019 No.20706097 >>20706065 For any of you still here, are you seriously trying to learn japanese?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:51:40 2019 No.20706110 no im seriously tryin to read eroge anything else would be misplaced energy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 16:58:36 2019 No.20706136 >>20693741 You can sync anki between your PC and phone retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:00:45 2019 No.20706149 Jesus fucking christ I need to get some fucking adderall to help me concentrate What the hell is wrong with me today

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:01:06 2019 No.20706151 >>20706136 Not him but he probably has an iphone and doesnt feel like wasting $25 retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:03:36 2019 No.20706159 >>20706151 He has already wasted a grand on the iphone lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:06:05 2019 No.20706168 >>20706159 Touché

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:06:38 2019 No.20706172 >>20706149 it happens relax if it lasts a few days try some new content

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:10:20 2019 No.20706185 >>20706159 lol destroyed

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:13:16 2019 No.20706195 i spent an hour alternating between 20 cards in anki and watching english youtube videos and now i don't feel like immersing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:14:08 2019 No.20706198 I know 秘 and 密 from 秘密 but every time I see either of them in other words, I can never remember which one is the ひ and which one is the みつ

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:20:26 2019 No.20706223

>>20706198
Try some associations between the kanji and the sound. Like 秘 would be something like "HI slashed my heart near the tree (or whatever you see the left side of it as)" or for 密 "MIX (sounds like mitsu) the heart between the lid and the mountain"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:22:44 2019 No.20706236 >>20706198 just remember that the one with two parts isnt the one with two kana

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:23:17 2019 No.20706238 >>20706198 its probably cuz 必 is in both of them. it happens to me too which means i need more exposure to the other words

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:23:38 2019 No.20706240 >>20706198 The 密 is the same as in 密接 which is an apt description for me and your mom's relationship.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:27:05 2019 No.20706258 >>20706198 I know that exact feel, 蜂蜜 really helped me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:32:15 2019 No.20706277 >>20705673 post it please

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:33:09 2019 No.20706280 >>20706277 are you not native english? you should be able to read it just fine if you are

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:38:49 2019 No.20706307 >>20706280 i...im not

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:39:54 2019 No.20706316 god i hate esls

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:40:34 2019 No.20706319 How the fuck does イギリス = The UK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:42:15 2019 No.20706327 >>20706280 nah, it's readable. t. esl

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:43:19 2019 No.20706330 >>20706319 Its how the japanese pronounce english

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:45:50 2019 No.20706341 「イギリス」はポルトガル語でイングランドを指すInglez（イングレス）が語源 a two second look up on wikipedia

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:48:34 2019 No.20706353 >>20706341 why are japs such portocucks?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:51:00 2019 No.20706366

everyones pickin on the esl when the harshest thing you could do is actually let him know what it says and let him try to figure out whats wrong with it
>>20706307
壱 learn kana in 2 days using tae kim and realkana
弐 read all tae kim make an anki deck out of every vocab word using rikaisama import and write them all once or twice
参 use dictionary of japanese grammar while reading an easy manga and add every unknown word to anki after writing it once
四 repeat with native material
追 you cant learn kanji individually

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:53:17 2019 No.20706377 oh yeah and it says to listen to dorama or anime on the repeat step

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 17:59:34 2019 No.20706399 >>20706377 jdama and jcartoons*

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:01:16 2019 No.20706407 >>20706366 yeah, too hard. im out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:04:35 2019 No.20706418 >>20706399 its dorama but im a fan of jcartoon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:05:34 2019 No.20706423 Is there no way to read kanji you dont know? Do you seriously just have to memorize them and their readings?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:08:03 2019 No.20706433 >>20706423 you can certainly guess based on the other words that use that kanji but i always double check with a dictionary because there are some crazy exceptional readings that aren't uncommon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:09:08 2019 No.20706438 When you guys say read more, how are you practicing your reading? Are you looking up every word you don’t know? I mostly watch/listen and just read when doing Anki but would like to improve my reading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:12:45 2019 No.20706456 >>20706423 Just memorize what it looks like, it’s stroke order, its 10 definitions and 20 different readings.3,000 times. what’s so hard about that anon :)

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:13:23 2019 No.20706458

>>20706438
Right now im just using manabi reader since i can easily just tap on a word for a definition, and i do that for every word i dont know after trying to say it. This way, i can quickly go through an article while actually picking up a few words passively and improving my reading skills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:14:06 2019 No.20706460 >>20706423 phonetic components help quite a lot. for example 鉱物's 鉱 being kou, 広大's 広 also being kou and 公式's 公 kou as well

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:15:51 2019 No.20706464 Should you ever find yourself having "fun" learning Japanese, stop immediately and reevalute your methods. If you aren't suffering, you're not doing it correctly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:18:36 2019 No.20706472 >>20706456 if you just focus on learning words it's not scary at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:18:37 2019 No.20706473 File: 266 KB, 482x445, 1518319421072.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 気持ち悪いよ

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:22:42 2019 No.20706491

>>20706423
if you memorize anything memorize words
you get better at guessing how to read new words but there will also always be some that you cant possibly guess
>>20706438
if the difficulty is right for it look it up
if its obvious youre not gonna understand a sentence even if you do look shit up then dont

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:25:21 2019 No.20706501

>>20706464
true. i've spent 5 minutes trying to understand what という is doing in a sentence. if i dropped it and moved on i would enjoy the immersion more but i wouldn't know what was being communicated in that sentence even if i could infer it so i'll just get confused againt next time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:37:37 2019 No.20706559 >>20706501 if you cant piece together an english translation you arent ready to read another sentence

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:39:10 2019 No.20706566 >>20706559 right that's why i've spent about 20 minutes now stuck on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:44:10 2019 No.20706596 Is there a way to make Anki show me reviews before new cards?

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:46:18 2019 No.20706608

>>20706566
i threw it into google translate and the sentence now makes sense. i think という was being used in a way i think of as "the fact that" or "in that manner" (i'm sure there's a technical word to describe encapsulating and referring to a clause), and since it came after a comma i guess that should have been more obvious to me. but i'm still quitting for the day. fuck this retarded language. i hate this gay fucking bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:47:08 2019 No.20706613 >>20706501 post it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:48:14 2019 No.20706616 >>20706608 post the sentence

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:50:40 2019 No.20706624 >>20706596 tools -> preferences -> basic

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:50:53 2019 No.20706625 File: 58 KB, 774x960, 1521304727442.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20706596 It's a built in option under preferences/basic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:55:32 2019 No.20706650 People would really rather die than post a sentence they're having trouble with huh. Why even come here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:56:36 2019 No.20706653 did you hear the man hes quitting for the day its only shitposting from here on out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:58:25 2019 No.20706658 What the fuck is a プレグラ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 18:59:02 2019 No.20706660 >>20706650 One can post but the reply will just be the sentence again with the adverb replaced by ゲイ.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:00:29 2019 No.20706666 >>20706624 Thank you. >>20706625 Thank you but less thanks because you’re a big meanie >:(

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:09:54 2019 No.20706700 File: 217 KB, 1200x846, 1548369139434[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the point of knowing japanese if you can't read handwriting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:15:42 2019 No.20706732 >>20706660 Even Jamal used to give legitimate advice sometimes back when people would ask for help. It's just a matter of saying more than just "lol reading manga rn wtf does これはペンです mean"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:17:41 2019 No.20706739 File: 1.65 MB, 2664x1536, 1525842744289.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the point of living if you never get to read this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:21:37 2019 No.20706759 >>20706739 fellas i can finally read this, does that mean ive made it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:22:05 2019 No.20706763 >>20706739 ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:23:07 2019 No.20706767 >>20706739 anybody got more of these? i really like this style

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:25:24 2019 No.20706784 >>20706739 still havent seen handwriting as cute as this elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:27:30 2019 No.20706800 >>20706759 no you should be able to read that after your first week of studying japanese

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:29:28 2019 No.20706809 >>20706739 Cute handwriting, but I hate how sloppy she is with her よ's. They look like more the right strokes of は.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:35:44 2019 No.20706839 >>20700633 what game is this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:35:53 2019 No.20706840 >>20706800 After your first year, maybe

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:36:36 2019 No.20706845 >>20706840 come on nigga 6 months if youre not on that reddit track

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:39:31 2019 No.20706858

>>20706845
I mean, if nothing else it's just a matter of being exposed to each of those words often enough to be able to recognize them when they're handwritten like that. The actual contents of the letter are definitely first 6 months material, if not even earlier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:52:23 2019 No.20706910 File: 55 KB, 620x348, 3FB0EA84-9F57-4BDC-BC56-A7B9F23FCAEA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >日本語 pleb >watchingのんのんびより >Keep hearing “suki” (好き) >”Hmm they must really like whatever they’re talking about..” >They literally just go skiing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:54:44 2019 No.20706924 >>20706739 3 months in and I can read enough of this to know whats its about and I'm gettin cheesy vibes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:56:22 2019 No.20706933 >>20706910 I remember thinking exactly the same 2 years ago. Keep watching.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:56:48 2019 No.20706935 >>20706839 Sanoba witch

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 19:56:53 2019 No.20706936 >>20706839 Look at the textbox closely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:00:41 2019 No.20706948 i'll never get tired of kaufmann uploading videos where he says the exact same thing for the billionth time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:03:39 2019 No.20706953 >1400 kanji into RTK >check my deck >1399 cards Oh fuck..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:05:43 2019 No.20706962 >>20706953 >RTK Fuck man. I hate knowing people waste time like I did doing RTK.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:09:06 2019 No.20706969 File: 16 KB, 285x285, CA84603A-0795-4730-A10A-045C044EB2CF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20706948 Me neither

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:11:56 2019 No.20706976 >>20706962 Sorry you wasted your own time anon but it’s been incredibly helpful for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:13:03 2019 No.20706980 >>20706976 It's not that it's not helpful. It's that the time investment isn't worth it for anyone, including you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:21:54 2019 No.20707015 >>20706976 A couple hours a day for a few months to learn 3,000 Kanji seems like a solid investment to me, and it’s been well worth it so far. Again, sorry you regret wasting your time, but I’m quite happy with how I’m spending mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:24:25 2019 No.20707033 >>20707015 It's not a solid investment and it wasn't worth it. You could be dedicating more time to learning the actual language. You might be happy with it but that's because ignorance is bliss.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:24:37 2019 No.20707034 >i dont know nihongo and im not even done with rtk but im sure its been helpful

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:32:18 2019 No.20707072 lmao rtk doesn't teach you kanji. you don't know 3000 kanji stop it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:34:13 2019 No.20707077 tfw he sounds like me when i did rtk. i was such a fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:37:14 2019 No.20707093 you cant possibly know how much time youre wastin until you actually start learnin nihongo through some compellin eroge

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:38:20 2019 No.20707099 >>20707093 >compellin eroge name some

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:38:57 2019 No.20707104 https://youtu.be/BPyAFWqJ1fU?t=508 your brain on rtk

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:40:08 2019 No.20707113

Don’t listen to the retards, people that don’t do RTK have some sort of vendetta against it

I did it last year and it was more than worth it, not sure what the fuck these faggots would think is a worthwhile investment if being able to read/write every important kanji in 3-4 months isn’t lmao. It isn’t any more of an investment than learning kanji with some other method

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:42:45 2019 No.20707120 >>20700287 Tamago

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:47:36 2019 No.20707134

I did RTK and I did it properly. What did I get from it? The ability to write individual kanji (not words) and the ability to infer the meaning of some words while reading.

But you know what would have been better? Just learning the fucking words. Fuck dipshits who actually defend it and make people waste hundreds of hours on that nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:50:02 2019 No.20707142 some people just want to LARP and RTK is perfect for that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:52:58 2019 No.20707153 >>20706739 久しぶりだなこの手紙

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:54:28 2019 No.20707156 >>20707113 It's the opposite. People who spend all that time on RTK recommend it because they want other people to waste that time, too. RTK is a gigantic waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:56:42 2019 No.20707165 more like rtgay lol heres what u need https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Ekd6KKXpg#t=16

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:57:00 2019 No.20707166 No wonder none of you ever make it hahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 20:59:59 2019 No.20707184 >>20700297 はつおんはごんべ権兵衛だよ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:00:55 2019 No.20707192 >>20707113 >people that don’t do RTK have some sort of vendetta against it i did rtk and am against it and ive seen multiple posters say the same >being able to read/write every important kanji its only write though innit

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:01:14 2019 No.20707195

I don't know where people get this idea that the Japanese will rip you a new asshole if your Japanese isn't perfect. My Japanese fucking sucks due to being unpracticed with output (I facepalm at my own posts a lot immediately afterwards), and the worst I've seen is somebody not understanding what I just said.

Are the people who get mocked sperges?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:05:59 2019 No.20707216 >>20701244 ankiweb anon

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:07:55 2019 No.20707224

knowing stroke order can be helpful for some kanji recognition software that reads the input by strokes. with some though you can just scribble on the screen regardless of stroke order and it will detect the kanji you need to look up. that is really the only use i have for writing kanji since i don't live in japan. i never completed rtk and i can reliably input any kanji i can't read into the computer just fine. and most kanji i have to do that for aren't in RTK anyways so wtf?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:08:56 2019 No.20707228 >>20707099 a mans gotta find his own path just try shit or if youre not askin for recs pretend i said compellin content and you do what makes you happy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:15:21 2019 No.20707242 >>20707195 whered you hear that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:15:49 2019 No.20707244 >>20707195 上手でしょうね

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:19:33 2019 No.20707258 >>20707195 the japanese aren't going to rip you a new asshole, DJT will

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:23:33 2019 No.20707273 actually never mind DJT will probably just ignore your posts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:46:01 2019 No.20707366 >too sick to be able to sit up straight >can't go to computer to do anki Bros my immersion....

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:59:28 2019 No.20707434 File: 151 KB, 1280x720, tyu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] holy shit

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 21:59:49 2019 No.20707436

>>20707113
finished RTK two months ago, took me roughly two months at 30-50 new kanji a day. currently at 86% mature cards. it has certainly improved my ability to retain vocab and I'd say I'm able to recall the keyword of about 60% of the kanji on first look. however, it's by no means a foolproof method, it's fucking hard work and I'd be reluctant to recommend it to anyone unless they really want to learn how to write. which, let's face it, is a pretty important skill to have if you want to be truly fluent in Japanese and not just some semi-literate anime munching weeb

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:01:04 2019 No.20707439 >>20707434 ヘビー級

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:02:15 2019 No.20707448 >>20707434 >眼鏡ゴミ箱に

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:03:18 2019 No.20707454 >>20707436 Writing is an important skill to have, but handwriting isn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:09:16 2019 No.20707477 behold flashtards lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:09:23 2019 No.20707479 >>20707454 perhaps. personally I enjoy the benefits of kinaesthetic learning through hand writing but obviously it's not for everyone. both sides of the pro-/anti-RTK argument are just dogma at this point desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:15:50 2019 No.20707495 File: 148 KB, 1314x350, rtk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 定期

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:21:41 2019 No.20707520 gotta remember the book is not called learn japanese its called remember the kanji and it works well for that u just need to inform urself before u pick up any old random thing especially on the internet and permanently cripple ur nihongo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:23:06 2019 No.20707524 >>20707479 How is it dogma to recognize that developing the ability to handwrite as a beginner is pointless and that the benefits of better vocab retention are offset by the time invested?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:23:44 2019 No.20707525 >>20705895 4092文字/分

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:25:30 2019 No.20707533 >>20707524 lmfao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:33:20 2019 No.20707557 behold enternal dekinais

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:36:18 2019 No.20707568 starting from the post above this one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:38:14 2019 No.20707574 >>20707557 化け物はとっても怖いですよね

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 22:39:15 2019 No.20707576 more like バカ者

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 23:01:49 2019 No.20707662 >>20702862 He literally said he quit Anki in the same sentence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 23:05:12 2019 No.20707673 How the fuck do I get Windows 10 to prioritize Google IME over Microsoft IME? I have to manually change it every time I boot my PC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 23:13:07 2019 No.20707704 >>20702862 The grammar guide. Why would I use Anki to study grammar?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 23:19:05 2019 No.20707740 >>20707704 same reason you would use anki to remember anything

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 23:22:53 2019 No.20707761 never forget about ankidrones right around the corner

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 23:25:10 2019 No.20707774 >>20707195 My Discord Jap friends all laugh at me when I make a mistake. They're bullies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:12:59 2019 No.20707939 File: 57 KB, 626x58, kannaki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the reading for this word?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:16:33 2019 No.20707955 >>20707939 あまなき

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:16:45 2019 No.20707958 Out of interest, how long do you think it would take for someone to only be able to comprehend spoken and written Japanese without any of the talking or writing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:19:04 2019 No.20707969 >how long do you think it would take for someone to only be able to comprehend spoken [...] Japanese without any of the talking [...]? >>20707955 ok thanks I'll go with that then

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:20:50 2019 No.20707974 What's your primary motivation for learning japanese, anons? Mine is to be able to understand voice works.

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:23:49 2019 No.20707982

>>20707974
if i get a GF i need to have a "skill" that looks like it took effort or intelligence to acquire since women like that dumb shit for evolutionary reasons. and a language with decent content is perfect for that. doesn't take a genius to do it but normies think it does.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:25:14 2019 No.20707985 >>20707974 Manga, eroge, and I enjoy the language itself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:40:59 2019 No.20708050 Out of interest, how long do you think it would take for someone to learn how to write and talk in Japanese without being able to comprehend any of the speech and writing?

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:44:38 2019 No.20708061

>>20707524
well you haven't bothered to demonstrate why learning to write kanji from the beginning of one's studies is detrimental to attaining fluency, that's why I suspect your position is dogmatic. but anyway, how many beginners really start out by only studying RTK and nothing else, aside from AJATT shills?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:45:34 2019 No.20708065 >>20708050 A newborn can do that in 4 years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:45:52 2019 No.20708067 >>20708061 >is detrimental >the benefits of better vocab retention are offset >the benefits of better vocab retention Talk about dogmatic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 00:48:37 2019 No.20708079 File: 35 KB, 556x52, chuu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:06:53 2019 No.20708127 >>20705693 I like this post, Im gonna steal it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:15:04 2019 No.20708147 spoken like a true follower of mattvsjapan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:16:01 2019 No.20708148 Who /MiaAndGonnaMakeIt/ here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:23:01 2019 No.20708177 who "already made it and only here to passive aggressively shitpost at beginners " here

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:25:40 2019 No.20708191 >>20708177 not u

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:28:00 2019 No.20708201 File: 434 KB, 1034x1394, lewds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:28:36 2019 No.20708204 >>20708191 prove it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:29:04 2019 No.20708208 >>20708204 u r itt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:29:48 2019 No.20708211 im actually only metaphysically itt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:32:25 2019 No.20708219 >>20708147 I follow coughman, mutt uses cards a lot.

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:39:59 2019 No.20708258

kaufmann fucking sucks at nip compared to matt but that's not really a bad thing since most people do. we established on djt months ago that of the public japanese learners only dogen is better in terms of output, but based on matt's testimony (which we can trust because he's a trustworthy man who owns up to his mistakes such as with RTK) he got such massive amounts of input that dogen couldn't possibly compare in terms of comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:41:45 2019 No.20708265 Hey dudes I managed to read 4 whole chapters today

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:48:14 2019 No.20708290 >>20708258 >massive amounts of input he's read like 10 books

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:49:08 2019 No.20708295 >>20708258 Kauffman isnt at his peak is what we established.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:51:21 2019 No.20708304 >>20708290 25 or more if he read through 50 about halfway but he SRS'd every word he came across. he did more listening than reading.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:54:07 2019 No.20708316 >>20708304 he's watched like 3000 episodes of anime

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 01:59:21 2019 No.20708337 File: 31 KB, 1705x137, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 02:17:23 2019 No.20708394 >>20708337 うわぁ上手いっすね～

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 02:21:32 2019 No.20708415 >>20708337 上手すぎるw

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 02:29:22 2019 No.20708439 >>20708265 I mean... each chapter of eromanga is still mostly drawings.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 02:44:25 2019 No.20708480 的 See this? This hanzi (kanji for all your Mongolian speakers) right here. It's a pretty badass dude, helped me pass N5.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 02:46:19 2019 No.20708486 >>20708480 Mined!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 03:35:27 2019 No.20708614 guys, I'm bored of the 3000 kanji from RTK series, what other kanji should I learn next?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 03:36:27 2019 No.20708617 >>20708337 what does it say?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 03:37:51 2019 No.20708619 File: 220 KB, 1342x606, djt geniuses.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 03:39:34 2019 No.20708623 File: 309 KB, 2518x1024, djt chad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:01:26 2019 No.20708657 >don't wanna dive into compelling content before i achieve fluency >non-compelling content are not compelling enough the eternal struggle

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:03:05 2019 No.20708659 File: 14 KB, 580x111, matt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>20708657

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:03:14 2019 No.20708660 >>20708657 Just reread/rewatch that compelling content once you get to a higher level.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:10:44 2019 No.20708686 あそびあそばせ

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:11:10 2019 No.20708688 is it normal for srs to make me feel like a total retard as i start

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:12:06 2019 No.20708690 >>20708688 It's normal for srs to make you feel like a retard daily.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:13:07 2019 No.20708694 >>20708686 2期はよ

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 04:25:17 2019 No.20708721 >>20708690 thank u i dont have any friends so i thought i'd ask here

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