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What are the great sages tax policy? Do they maintain a standing army? What do they do in times of flood and famine? And what about all those who sympathize with the secret history association? Do the great sages pursue a policy of repression and oppression? And what of their children? Are they killed along with their parents, or are they subjected to indoctrination to be loyal to the Youkai regime?

>> No.20824318

Mating press

>> No.20824387

Those hags just want to take it easy and oppress the Villagers into compliance. So they have Reimu do the work for them.

>> No.20826954

>>20824293
Gensokyo is a anarchist state

>> No.20826963

Lady Okina taxes me with her constant sexual appetite, but I will bear it for my lover!

>> No.20827031
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20827031

I really like Ran!

>> No.20827880

>>20824293
>Do the great sages pursue a policy of repression and oppression?
Actually, they do pursue a policy of repression and oppression. It's been stated by canon for several years now.

>> No.20827945

Nice filename faggot.

>> No.20829348

>>20824387
What happens if Reimu wants to rule?

>> No.20829907

>>20824293
If you can force the grim reapers to back off, you can force the taxmen to back off.

>> No.20830533

They don't even technically "rule", because rule is antithetical to Gensokyo's ideals

>> No.20830838

>>20826954
Gensokyo consists of several micronations including the Human Village, Tengu Fiefdom, and Kappa Republic. The sages are more like the Papacy in that technically they don't "rule" per say, but going against their wishes is liable to give the other nations an excuse to war with and otherwise abuse you as now you're operating outside of their protection.

>> No.20831030

>>20830838
The Holy Youkai Empire

>> No.20831042

>>20827031

Everyone loves the Kitsunes until they steal your liver when you're not looking

>> No.20831516

>>20830838
What about the Lunarian refugee camp? Or the satori sanctuary and the Oni-Government in exile?

>> No.20832718

there are no taxes in gensokyo. thats why its heaven.

>> No.20833185

>>20829907
So if you can become a shikaisen to cheat death, can you become a zeikaisen to cheat taxes?

>> No.20833423

>>20824293
Gensokyo is placed in Mexico so there's no law there.
Shikieiki being a dumbass that can't do shit, shegets payed a bribe of 100 million yen from Yukarin "El Gapo" Guzman.

>> No.20833453

>>20831516
The lunarian NEETs were a point of contention but Yukari scared the shit out of Eirin and they fell in line under sage rule.

>> No.20833474

>>20829348
Then they kill her.

>> No.20833508
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>>20833423
>Yukarin "El Gapo" Guzman
I liked your post

>> No.20833593 [DELETED] 

>>20833423
>Shikieiki
Go back to 2008. That's not her name. It's Eiki.

>> No.20834693

>>20833508
Thanks

>> No.20834745
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20834745

Lunar mommy best sage

>> No.20834763

>>20824293
Which of these h*gs is the smelliest?

>> No.20834778 [DELETED] 

>>20830838
What about Myourenology?

>> No.20834790

>>20834763
Ran smells like a wet dog. Yukari smells like an old lady. Chen smells like cat pee. Kasen smells like sex. Okina is a god and Eirin is a lunarian and thus don't smell like impure beings.

>> No.20837289

>>20830533
Pretty sure they're shadow cabals

>> No.20837525

>>20830838
That's a good way of putting it

>> No.20837578

>>20834745
>retards think she is an oni
Good to know Okinafags are reddit level.

>> No.20839437

>>20834790
>Kasen
Wrong.
Kasen smells like flowers.
Sanae isn't a sage but smells like sex and semen.

>> No.20839439

>>20837578
Wrong.

>> No.20839478

>>20834790
Chen(male) smells like cat semen. So does Ran.

>> No.20839552
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20839552

for me it's kasen

>> No.20841101

>>20839437
kasen smells like amorphophallus titanum

>> No.20841614

>>20830838
How is Human/Youkai marriage viewed?

>> No.20842754

>>20826963
She must be lacking.

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>>20834745
>>>>>>>>>>primaries only
nigga u got 12 brain tumors

>> No.20845084 [DELETED] 

>>20844138
Please do not abuse the quote function like that. Only one > is necessary. And please do not talk like you're in Black Twitter on /jp/.

>> No.20845421
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20845421

God I want to cum on that smug face.

>> No.20845426

>>20826954
Gensokyo is a Patchwork.

>> No.20846443

>>20845421
What a horny girl!

>> No.20846550

>>20845421
god i wish the floor was my balls

>> No.20846668

>>20845426
moldbug fags out of jp

>> No.20846884

>>20846550
fuck off spacejin

>> No.20849893

>>20824318
I don't get it.

>> No.20850389
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20850389

>Flood and famine
Let them fucking die

>> No.20850448

>>20850389
youkai moe

>> No.20853073

>>20850389
Sounds about right.

>> No.20853082

>>20850389
Wait, doesn’t she need to keep the humans alive so she can keep existing?

>> No.20854149

>>20853082
No

>> No.20856080

>>20839478
But I'm not a cat.

>> No.20856479

Not that we know Kasen used to be a monster as well. Is there anybody that still seriously doubts that the Youkai sages are going to be endgame villains?

>> No.20856569

>>20856479
Me, because Okina is a god and not a monster!

>> No.20856598 [DELETED] 

>>20856479
Okina's job is to protect Gensokyo.

>> No.20858983

>>20854149
Then what exactly are yukari? Isn't youkai power comes from human emotion?

>> No.20859017

>>20858983
there's not really a good answer aside from phantoms, monsters, and illusions. they all have different methods of survival, some youkai need to eat people for sustenance, others survive off people's belief in them, and some just need to scare people to keep existing

>> No.20859024

>>20824293

Youkai can avert natural disasters, humans don't live long enough to avoid manipulation by the youkai, they manipulate by altering written history and spying (at least Yukari does)

>> No.20859249

>>20824293
I sympathise with this re(ally)-tired lunar sage.

>> No.20859864

>>20845421
I'm not finding the sauce with reverse image

>> No.20860450

>>20858983
>>20853082
She doesn't need all of them, she just needs them to fear youkai. Letting some die because "she's their enemy" is a good way to keep that going.

>> No.20860511

Did no one else recognize this old tg copypasta?

>> No.20860620

>>20856479
None of them so far seem to have done anything really wrong

>> No.20861142

>>20860620
Subjugating Humanity into a 1984 world is not evil?

>> No.20861258

>>20859864
It's from the last chapter of WaHH

>>20861142
gensokyo is not a 1984 world

>> No.20863547

>>20824293
How are Human-Youkai relations viewed? While Gensokyo was made in order to preserve the Youkai race, one cannot deny that a few individuals from both sides have intermingled out of love or lust, a few even marrying in secret. And in their union, a few Hybrids were born. The most famous being the shop owner Rinnosuke. If Youkai need Human fear, then wouldn't this be detrimental. How are the Great Sages supposed to combat this?

>> No.20863578 [DELETED] 

>>20863547
Why do you capitalize human and youkai as if they're proper nouns? This needs to stop. And Touhou will never deal with sex so please take your shitty fanon eroge visual novel plot somewhere else. Rinnosuke is the exception and not the rule.

>> No.20863598

Touhou might never deal with sex but when I go to Gensokyo, ohohoho, oh boy!

>> No.20863717

Touhou might never deal with sex but when I read doujins, ohohoho, oh boy!

>> No.20863750
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>>20863578
And yet, you see female youkai trying to tempt human males. Why is that?

>> No.20863842

>>20841614
Varies
Most give zero fucks because it doesn't affect them
Yukari might care due to her fetish for meddling in absolutely fucking everything

>> No.20863919

>>20834745

Okina matara

What a wonderful sage

>> No.20865377

>>20863750
hnggg

>> No.20865429
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>>20824293
Friendly reminder that for normal humans, Gensokyo is a horrible place to live.
The villagers constantly live in fear of the yokai are though they aren't hunted and eaten, they are still livestock raised to power the youkai via emotions and their personal happiness or wellbeing is of no concern to the powers that be. If a human from the outside world gets spirited away to Gensokyo, they're hunted down and eaten by the various youkai. Most if not all the youkai shown to us in the games are known human eaters, either by their race's description or quotes they say about eating humans in games ie. Rumia, Mystia, Sekibanki, Rin etc.
Your favorite touhou probably dines on human flesh on a regular basis and would probably eat you too if you actually went to Gensokyo.

>> No.20865498

>>20865429
>Your favorite touhou probably dines on human flesh on a regular basis and would probably eat you too if you actually went to Gensokyo.
Nah we'd be chill. Worst she'd do is steal my soul, enslave my mind and possess my body, but its ok since I'd like that.

>> No.20865528

>>20865429
>Your favorite touhou probably dines on human flesh on a regular basis and would probably eat you too if you actually went to Gensokyo

Actually my favorite touhou canonically would do her best to make sure that i'm NOT eaten by a rabid little girl.

>> No.20865545

>>20865528
hi mokoufag

>> No.20865654
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>>20865545
Wrong

>> No.20866488

>>20865498
No you won't.

>> No.20866500

>>20863598
Not if I get there first, pal

>> No.20866545

>>20865429
>another secret history fag
You wouldn't even know how to lead yourselves if your puny 'revolution' even paid out. It's best to leave it all up to the wise sages. I already alerted the youkai gestapo of your IP btw

>> No.20866874

>>20865429
Daily reminder that this is false and the human village is explicitly NOT feasted upon; all of the human meat is acquired from the outside world.

>> No.20866971

>>20865429
That's okay
Still a better fate than what awaits most people in our normal world

>> No.20867021

>>20866874
>all of the human meat is acquired from the outside world.
People from within gensokyo have been killed/eaten in the manga

>> No.20868685

>>20867021
Not an argument.

>> No.20871578

>>20866971
that's true

>> No.20872041

>>20867021
Nope. There was once instance where bones were found at the bottom of a well, nobody knew who it was since nobody had went missing.

>> No.20872244

>>20824293
Which ever one is an AnCap.

>> No.20872736

>>20872244
RIP Gensokyo, collapsed in an instant

>> No.20874384

>>20856598
Why is that a good thing?

>>20860620
>Okina.
Literally brainwashes people into becoming her slaves.

>Kasen.
Was a murderous Oni.

>Yukari.
Child murdering sociopathic serial killer.

>All of them.
Creating Gensokyo by trapping thousands of innocent people.

>>20861258
>gensokyo is not a 1984 world
It's still a shitty dystopia though.

>> No.20874392

>>20865429
This.

>>20866874
He literally said that. But he also pointed out that 1: They are still trapped in Gensokyo against their will. 2: They are still basically used as emotion livestock.

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>>20856598
>>20856569
Y'all're right. Okina's not an evil monster, just a jerk. Kasen, on the other hand, seems to be partially evil.

>> No.20874428

>>20874403
Brainwashing is evil, anon.

>> No.20874971

>>20874384
Out of all the things you mentioned, only Yukari's point seems like it's actually bad or in some way a problem

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>>20868685
>>20874384
>>20874392
>>20874971
wew

>> No.20876291

>>20833423
>Gensokyo is placed in Mexico so there's no law there.
>Shikieiki being a dumbass that can't do shit, shegets payed a bribe of 100 million yen from Yukarin "El Gapo" Guzman.

So shrines are basically fronts for Youkai cartels/protection rackets.

>> No.20877526

>>20874384
>Attempting to apply human politics and morals to the youkai population
Ya'll realize that even though they look like humans, that they're still a completely separate species, right? Rinnosuke is a big damn anomaly, and I'd question the claim that he's a halfbreed of some kind. In Gensokyo, even for plain humans, long lives and freaky powers aren't unheard of.

So, here's the breakdown:

>Okina
A god that brainwashes humans. So what's new? Hey, they seem to be enjoying themselves anyway, so who gives a damn.

>Yukari
So she eats people. And your point is? Humans also have to consume the flesh of other living things to survive. Humans have a tendency to play with their food as well. Glass houses, yada yada.

>Kasen
Okay, so she killed a lot of people. She's an oni, its what they do. What gets me, is this "righteous crusade" that she's on right now. Seriously, she's practically babysitting a species that's weaker than her. Of course, I do guess that the livestock do a bit better with a shepherd managing them...

>trapping thousands of "innocent people"
Again, glass houses.

What is your definition of "evil"? Is it simply anything that doesn't treat human life as sacred?
If so, that makes every last atom in all the cosmos "evil", as not one of them gives a damn about this unfathomably self-important collection of matter which calls itself "human".

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>>20824293
>>20826954
Gensokyo has plenty of 'rules' such as the spellcard rules, which keeps Gensokyo's residents from killing each other. Reimu also has a set of rules that she follows ... sometimes. She certainly cared about following the rules when she murdered Fortune Teller.

The only time I know of where Yukari sought punishment was in Impossible Spell Card. That may be because Seija didn't necessarily threaten Gensokyo, but rather threatened Yukari's leadership. While the damage from physical destruction and bad weather could be repaired, the seeds of rebellion are much more troublesome. Yukari put a bounty on Seija and let everyone else break the spellcard rules in pursuit of her, and turned all of Seija's allies against her. Does this mean that Yukari cares more about her authority than the welfare of her state?

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>>20877715
Like all tyrants, Yukari wants to cement her position even at the expense of those who live under her rule. But she does care about keeping the system in place. Most who have ambitions to rule at least part of Gensokyo only wish to replace Yukari and the sage's positions as rulers, not change the actual system in any fundamental way. To the humans, fairies, and unaligned youkai, all that would change is who you bow down to at any given moment.

So when someone like Seija comes along and threatens the entire system, all those who have a stake in keeping it up, for their own ends or because they think it's the best they could hope for, will come down on their heads. Seija was hunted down, had the state propaganda machine slander her, and was abandoned for her continued resistance by her former allies turned dogs of the state. Such is the life of an insurrectionary anarchist like herself until the seeds of agitation take root in the underclass of Gensokyo. But maybe Seija was successful and the seeds have been planted, but have yet to sprout.

>> No.20878688

>>20853082
That's a lie. She just keeps humans around as play things.

>> No.20880151
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20880151

Humans men need to breed with Youkai women for the future of Gensokyo.

>> No.20880661

>>20880151
This, but unironically. We can create a master race of half youkai with all of the youkais strengths, and none of their weakness, as well as achieving peace between youkai and humans

>> No.20880695

>>20880151
>>20880661
Reminds me of that dream where I had sex with Meiring missionary-style for the sole reason of procreation. I must help propagate the youkai race! For Yukari-sama!

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20881723

>>20880151
>>20880661
>>20880695
>race traitor want to fill Gensokyo with disgusting half-breeds

>> No.20881735

>>20881723
please tell me who you are quoting

>> No.20881759
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>>20881723
Hello discount counterfeit Akyuu.

>> No.20882255

>>20874428
If that's true, then the ending of 1984 was a downer.

>> No.20882298

>>20882255
triple dubs confirms the ending of 1984 was indeed a downer

>> No.20882300

>>20863919
Okina matara

Ain't no passing craze

>> No.20882632

>>20882255
Pretty sure it ended in a happy note.

>> No.20883008

>>20882255
But it was alright, everything was alright, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Gensokyo.

>> No.20884436

>>20883008
Beautiful.

>> No.20884594

>>20880661
Indeed, creating a master race has led to peace 100% of the time. It is the perfect idea.

>> No.20884758

>>20884594
well so far every time people tried the master race never finished completion, but this time it will.

>> No.20885640

>>20884758
This, we got to believe.

>> No.20885882

>>20880151

This. OPEN BARRIERS FOR GENSOKYO.

>> No.20886799
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20886799

>>20881723
There nothing wrong with Race-Mixing.

>> No.20886955

>>20885882
When the outside world send its people, they are not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re /jp/. And some, I assume, are good people.

>> No.20887009

>>20886955
>they are not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems

Exactly with those dubs of truth, why would gensokyo need another person with problems who brings nothing to the table? it's common knowledge that the more pure a person is the better they taste to and stronger they make youkai, so unless you are both good at a valuable skill, and are a good person, they have no reason to allow you to cross the border.

>> No.20887849

>>20886955
@realYukariYakumo
"Reimu formally PUT ON NOTICE for ignoring border crossers! Big Trouble! The borders are a disaster, if something happens can't blame the sages!"

>> No.20887855

>>20886799
Species.
Youkai is not a race.

>> No.20887929

>>20887009
highly impure is just as delicious as highly pure

>> No.20888429

>>20880151
>Polluting human blood.
People like you are why burning and stakes were invented.

>> No.20888433

>>20882255
...The ending of 1984 was a downer.

>> No.20888438

>>20887009
Actually, youkai love the taste of criminals and people with mental problems. It's basically their equivalent of junk food.

>> No.20888471

>>20888433
In what way? The ending was a good one for the main character.

>But it was alright, everything was alright, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
How is that bad?

>> No.20888506

>>20888471
Because he was basically completely broken. Even though his body was still alive, his mind was gone.

>> No.20889884

>>20887929
>>20888438

Both true, but consider that animals who eat hermits become youkai, and youkai who eat hermits become more powerful, now if you were aiming to enter gensokyo, would you want to tell the youkai "i'm delicious" or "I am both delicious and good for you"

>> No.20891591

>>20865429
This.

>> No.20892876

>>20889884
animals that eat humans become youkai too

>> No.20893046

>>20887855
You focus on that?

>> No.20895554

>>20892876
notice you said humans, plural, and typically they don't transform until they have killed and eaten enough people to become feared.

With hermits however, just a small amount of flesh is needed to become a youkai.

>> No.20895739

>>20895554
in any case if you're only entering gensokyo just because yukari thinks you're going to make someone a good meal you're probably fucked

>> No.20895778

>>20895739
Obviously, which is why you should bring more to the table than just being food.

>> No.20898066

>>20895778
Good looks

>> No.20898100

>>20895778
Like an absolutely MASSIVE high score

>> No.20898172

>>20872736
It already is basically augmented anarchy. Where its lawless with a few major exceptions like the Great Harukai Barrier and the Spell Card Rules to ensure its long term harmony.

>> No.20898382

>>20898172
Last time I check, the Human Village Market has regulations.

>> No.20898390

>>20898382
for the most part it's just "no weird shit" which is why kourindou is a thing.

>> No.20898843

>>20877715
I don't think he means anarchy as in lack of rules, just that power is spread out among the sages in a way that no one can dominate and set their own rule by force and any attempt would lead to massive destruction.

>>20827880
Eirin seems isolationist and Yukari seems to want to preserve the order.

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20898868

>>20898843
>Yukari seems to want to preserve the order.

>> No.20898970

>>20898868
Execute other...

>> No.20899015

>>20877526
>Ya'll realize that even though they look like humans, that they're still a completely separate species, right?
Its not okay because none humans do it. Nothing about that makes the suffering any less real or unjustifiable. I would engage more but that's secondary shit.

>> No.20899122

>>20898100
are you talking about the entrance examination?

>> No.20899473

>>20898172
Ancap isn't anarchy unless you're saying Gensokyo is the sage's private property. Then all you're saying is that the sages are feudal lords who let lesser gods and youkai in once they pay tribute.

>> No.20899619

Some-kind of anarchy-kraterocracy?

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20901138

What's happening on this thread, /jp/? I hope it ain't sedition or dissent.

>> No.20902555

>>20901138
I want to put on a sin sack on my face, run to her almost naked with my heart boxers, show her my dick and run away.
I think I would make every chan proud.

>> No.20904455

>>20899619
Sirta

>> No.20905068

>>20880151
Soon

>> No.20905635

>>20886955
Gensokyo won't survive without mass outside world immigration. Humans do the jobs the Youkai won't do.

>> No.20905700

>>20905635
humans don't even have jobs to do, all they do is subsistence farm and fuck fairies all day

>> No.20906565

>>20901138
No big sister, we love big sister.

>> No.20906705

>>20901138
I don't see a holster for the pistol.

>> No.20906723

>>20906705
Do you need one if you can just have a gap armory?

>> No.20906789

>>20906723
Probably not but I was just thinking it'd be a part of the getup.

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>>20888429
It's already happening in the Village, anon. They realize that Diversity is strength.

>> No.20908278

>>20865429
At least someone said the truth.

>> No.20910896

>>20865429
Anyone who agrees with this post is either samefag or retarded.

>> No.20911549

>>20910896
Truth hurts, doesn't it.

>> No.20911587

>>20911549
Nah.

>> No.20914828

>>20865429
B-But mah harem!

>> No.20916079

>>20914828
screw a harem I just want to be friends with and learn from people like Marisa and Byakuren.

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>>20916079
Marisa wants you to accept her present.

>> No.20916107
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20916107

I love eirin as a sage!

>> No.20916440

>>20916093
99% of this board wants to eat Marisa's poo-poo like it was ice cream. I'm in the 1% that don't, we don't need that sickness on /jp/!

>> No.20917009

>>20916440
Thank you anon, Living in the village would be peak cozy, especially with so many interesting people within walking distance, and thats excluding all the dangerous youkai, but even then once you die, you can meet even more interesting people.

>> No.20917014

>>20826954
>anarchist state
Dry water.

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>>20865429
>Your favorite touhou probably dines on human flesh on a regular basis and would probably eat you too if you actually went to Gensokyo.
wrong

>> No.20920424

>>20918713
Somebody has to taste the meals Remilia eats. That tends to be the cook.

>> No.20920430

>>20898382
It has no government, and accordingly no law enforcement in place to actually enforce any regulations. The only law is mob justice.

>> No.20920459

>>20920430
No wonder 2hus get raped there all the time

>> No.20920510

>>20877526
>Ya'll realize that even though they look like humans, that they're still a completely separate species
That matters because? Evil is still evil, unless you can find a better definition of evil.

>So what's new?
R/Atheism is that way.

All joking side though, it's pretty evidently a rarity in Gensokyo or the outside world. Even Hecatia still gets followers the old fashioned way, and she's the queen of hell.

>And your point is?
That she's a sociopathic mass murderer that should be put down for the good of everybody. This isn't that complex, anon.

>Humans also have to consume the flesh of other living things to survive.
There is a difference between eating plants and eating living sapient things. I know that, as somebody that does probably want to die, this can be hard to understand. But killing people is generally viewed as wrong by almost every sensible system of morality on the planet.

>Humans have a tendency to play with their food as well.
There is a name for people like that: Sociopaths.

>What gets me, is this "righteous crusade" that she's on right now.
Why? She wants to make the world a better place, and understands that the best way to do that is to make the Hakurei Shrine Maiden a decent person rather than a selfish thrall to a immoral sociopathic youkai.

>Again, glass houses.
1: Most people view concentration camps as a bad thing. 2: You can't apply the actions of the few to justify crimes committed against many.

>What is your definition of "evil"?
A willful desire to inflict misery and pain for utterly selfish reasons. It's not something exclusive to youkai, to be sure. But at least most humans still have something resembling empathy. Youkai like Yukari only understand feelings insofar that they know how much fun is it to make people suffer.

>> No.20920520

>>20889884
You shouldn't be trying to enter Gensokyo, period.

>> No.20920531

oh look! another moralfag grimsokyo thread

impolite sage

>> No.20920535

>>20917009
>Wanting to live in the village.
Why the fuck would you want that? You do realize literally the entire point of the human village is that "spiritually rich society" is a meme, right? And the only people actually benefiting from such a society are evil malicious supernatural creatures.

>> No.20920541

>>20920531
Not a argument.

>> No.20920543

>>20920541
nice crossboard lingo. fuck off scum.

>> No.20920565

>>20920543
Still not a argument. Try harder, for your own sake.

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>>20920531
Truth Hurts

>> No.20922054

>>20920535
better than outside the village, in the hypothetical "you end up in gensokyo"

>> No.20922728

>>20922054
Wronh

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>>20824293
Isn't Junko a sage too?

>> No.20922911

>>20922900
she's a cute, such fluff

>> No.20923733

>>20922054
If you made it to the human village, you can just leave Gensokyo via Reimu. Which you should do considering most outsiders that decide to say canonically don't do very well.

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>>20920543
Replying to redditors is pointless, anon. Just don't.

>> No.20924356

>>20924221
Also not a argument. I love how you people will come up with any mad argument, any insane conspiracy theory, any stupid attempt to shut down my words. If there is any better evidence that you don't actually have a counterargument, that you know deep down that i'm right, it's this.

>> No.20924379

Reminder that ZUN doesn't think mass murder and brainwashing is okay. And Gensokyo is therefore not supposed to be a nice place.

>> No.20924399

IDK guys, reading FS shows that it's a pretty nice place. Sure it's not perfectly safe but it's still nice.

>> No.20924467

>>20924399
> reading FS shows that it's a pretty nice place.
How the fuck do you get that idea from FS? That's like, the one manga that goes out of its way to portray the human village as little more than manipulated youkai cattle. The happy ending is basically Kosuzu no longer being a normal human, and getting all of the privileges that come with that.

>> No.20924859

>>20922900
No

>> No.20925155

>>20824293
Gensokyo must be like heaven, but instead of angels, there are youkai.

>> No.20925198

>>20924467
The manipulation is basically a political styled one, and almost literally makes no difference in the actual village life, which the youkai actively have to defend from natural disasters.

>> No.20925270

>>20925198
>The manipulation is basically a political styled one
And that makes it better because?

>and almost literally makes no difference in the actual village life
Right. Which is why Kosuzu almost died because of youkai manipulating her. Like, do you somehow think people being manipulated to serve the needs of youkai somehow isn't going to result in people dying? Most youkai would happily have the human village sacrifice to their own children if it means they would get one more dollar.

>which the youkai actively have to defend from natural disasters.
The only reason they bother is because their society is too weak that it would literally not survive a natural disaster. Like every other good thing youkai do, it's just fixing the mistakes they caused by trapping these people against their will in the first place.

There is no defending Gensoyko. You can't argue it's somehow a good place but the people are also totally youkai cattle. Being youkai cattle is inherently a shitty existence, something characters in universe freely admit. The human village being livable enough that the human villagers can function as a society doesn't change that fact. It's a shitty place, ruled over by evil supernatural entities for the sake of evil supernatural entities. The only reason it's complete destruction isn't a good thing is because that would also kill the few benevolent youkai and gods.

>> No.20925377

>>20925270
>Most youkai would happily have the human village sacrifice to their own children if it means they would get one more dollar.
Literally the same on earth, except those youkai are just horrible people

And the youkai know that there is a limit to how bad they can be, else the human villagers would actually try to fight back against the youkai, which would inevitably lead to the complete death of both parties.

Kosuzu knew she was being manipulated. Akyu states that she actually enjoys life in the current era, the human village fairly frequently participates in festivals and other social events. No matter how you look at it, it's peaceful enough for most of the villagers to live good lives.

>> No.20925680

>>20924859
Why?

>> No.20925840 [DELETED] 

>>20925377
>Literally the same on earth, except those youkai are just horrible people
I don't like my government. But I doubt they would commit mass murder for political gains.

>Kosuzu knew she was being manipulated.
...And? She still nearly died as a result of that.

>Akyu states that she actually enjoys life in the current era
1: Akyuu is privileged as fuck. 2: The reasons why she feels that way aren't canon anymore.

>the human village fairly frequently participates in festivals and other social events.
You know what other place has social events? North Korea. Clearly, that means living in North Korea is awesome.

>No matter how you look at it, it's peaceful enough for most of the villagers to live good lives.
Something being peaceful doesn't automatically make it good. Their lives are still fucking awful, and they are little more than cattle to be used by evil supernatural entities that commit mass murder. Again, North Korea is peaceful. Doesn't somehow make it a good place to live.

>> No.20925857

>>20925377
>Literally the same on earth, except those youkai are just horrible people
I don't like my government. But I doubt they would commit mass murder for one dollar.

>Kosuzu knew she was being manipulated.
And that matters because?

>Akyu states that she actually enjoys life in the current era
1: Akyuu is privileged as fuck. 2: The reasons why she feels that way aren't canon anymore.

>the human village fairly frequently participates in festivals and other social events.
Most places have social events. That doesn't somehow make that place a good place to live. Hell, even North Korea has social events.

>No matter how you look at it, it's peaceful enough for most of the villagers to live good lives.
Something being peaceful doesn't automatically make it good. You can be peaceful, and still utterly miserable. The Human Villagers aren't even utterly miserable, at least most of them. But their lives are still pretty fucking shit.

>> No.20926071

>>20925857
>The Human Villagers aren't even utterly miserable, at least most of them. But their lives are still pretty fucking shit.

They seem pretty okay with it.

>> No.20926096

>>20925857
>north korea is shit
>everything non-western modern age is shit
I guess that's all this guy has.

>> No.20926122

>>20925155
Even better!

>> No.20926145

>>20926071
They seem to tolerate it enough to not collapse as a society. They obviously aren't happy with it and yearn for life in the outside world, but they do still have enough hope in a better tomorrow to keep going.

I mean, let's not forget that literally their entire society runs on hope. When they lost that hope, they almost collapsed overnight.

>>20926096
>north korea is shit
Yes.

>everything non-western modern age is shit
No. But, pre modern standards of living, which the human villagers do have, are complete garbage for most of the population.

>> No.20926155

>>20926145
>and yearn for life in the outside world
which is why they all love kourindou and the man who runs it.

>> No.20926223

>>20926155
They dislike the man who runs it because he's a half blood. It's made perfectly clear in the lore that the human villagers adore the outside world and everything to do with it. They even regularly adopt trends that manage to get through the barrier, like football.

>> No.20926263

>>20926223
>It's made perfectly clear in the lore that the human villagers adore the outside world and everything to do with it

>People inside want out, and create an idealized version of whats out there from what they know
>People outside want in and create an idealized version of whats in there from what they know
Really makes you think

>> No.20926301

>>20926263
While the human villagers do almost certainly idealize the place at least somewhat, they are still correct that it's a 100 times more preferable than living in Gensokyo.

>> No.20926449

>>20926301
while anons do almost certainly idealize the place at least somewhat they are still correct that it's a 100 times more preferable than living in the real world.

>> No.20926474

>>20926449
Nope. Gensokyo sucks, this is established Touhou lore. The outside world being fine is reality.

>> No.20926664

>>20920531
Grimsokyo IS canonical. Make dealings with it, fagget.

>> No.20927064

The humans villagers that know about the reality of their situation are few, but of those few they generally tend to hate it (Fortune Teller, the Secret History Association).

Most humans are largely ignorant of their situation, which is largely intentional due to Keine's efforts to instill collaborationism among the youth she teaches, tengu propaganda papers used to keep the humans passive and entertained, zashiki-warashi and tsukumogami surveilling people and households, and disguised youkai living amongst the villagers, monitoring their activities directly and taking care of any individuals posing a threat to the status quo. It's hard for them to know the truth since their entire perception of reality is manipulated by the youkai elite.

The ignorant go through life passively like most people, but are intrigued in the little information they get about the outside world. Those that do know either try to leave and are likely killed (Fortune Teller), or try to fight and covertly spread awareness among the populous (Secret History Association). The Village is surveillance state equivalent to Stasi East Germany, but even worse since there's nowhere for the humans to run to.

>> No.20927108 [DELETED] 

>>20927064
I'm not actually sure if the Secret History Association know. They know something is up, but the exact details still seem to elude them. I'm also not sure if Keine is actually collaborateur. She seems very pro human village in most of her depictions, and Gensokyo was a very different place back when BAIJR was written. Does she even still run a history school?

Otherwise though, I do pretty much completely agree. Gensokyo is basically a surveillance state, but with even worse standards of living.

>> No.20927115 [DELETED] 

>>20927064

I'm not actually sure if the Secret History Association know. They know something is up, but the exact details still seem to elude them. I'm also not sure if Keine is actually a collaborateur. She seems very pro human village in most of her depictions, and Gensokyo was a very different place back when BAIJR was written. Does she even still run a history school?

Otherwise though, I do pretty much completely agree. Gensokyo is basically a surveillance state, but with even worse standards of living

>> No.20927204

>>20927064
I'm not actually sure if the Secret History Association know. They know something is up, but the exact details still seem to elude them. I'm also not sure if Keine is actually a collaborateur. She seems very pro human village in most of her depictions, and Gensokyo was a very different place back when BAIJR was written. Does she even still run a history school?

Otherwise though, I do pretty much completely agree. Gensokyo is basically a surveillance state, but with even worse standards of living

>> No.20927847

>>20927064
>Most humans are largely ignorant of their situation, which is largely intentional due to Keine's efforts to instill collaborationism among the youth she teaches, tengu propaganda papers used to keep the humans passive and entertained, zashiki-warashi and tsukumogami surveilling people and households, and disguised youkai living amongst the villagers, monitoring their activities directly and taking care of any individuals posing a threat to the status quo. It's hard for them to know the truth since their entire perception of reality is manipulated by the youkai elite.

So basically the Human Village is East Germany on steroids?

>> No.20928927

>>20927847
It's East Germany, expect the government are also massive luddites and eat people.

>> No.20931725

>>20928927
East Germany was a worker's paradise.

>> No.20932007

>>20927064
Then why is Sanae still here?

>> No.20932133

>>20932007
sanae isn't the only one, they've said that a human coming from the outside and deciding not to go back isn't unheard of, just uncommon. Living in Gensokyo really only requires that you have the right mindset.

>> No.20934974

>>20932133
>Living in Gensokyo really only requires that you have the right mindset.
wrong!

>> No.20935302

>>20932007
She's a literal demigod that doesn't even live in the human village. I imagine she went to Gensokyo because she wants to be worshiped as a goddess rather than live an die like a normal human.

>>20932133
Again, I think the whole "goddess" thing is a bit more important than the right mindset. Sanae's article in Symposium even mentions that she's one of the very few humans that decide to stay in Gensokyo that also do well. Meaning most humans that do make the choice to stay end up miserable failures.

>> No.20935307

>>20931725
Obvious bait is obvious.

>> No.20935510

>>20824293
>What are the great sages tax policy?

Didn't Yukari trick Remilia into paying taxes or something?

>> No.20935513

>>20935510
That was Eirin. Something I know is going to backfire eventually, and result in Eirin stabbing a arrow through Yukari's cold black heart.

>> No.20935741

>>20932007
She doesn't live under the apartheid state in the Village, she fucks around on youkai mountain and scalps the villagers for worship points like everyone else. She's a part of the system now, and her schemes for gathering more faith will make her even more so as time goes on.

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>>20824293
>What are the great sages tax policy?
Seeing as Gensokyo is a youkai preserve most of all, living in a state of anarcho-kratocracy and loose but stringent rules, there is no tax policy. It is expected of new Youkai that they do not rock the boat too much, under pain of death. Individual accommodations can exist between various powerful groups and newcomers, and different forms of tithes can exist informally, but those are not official or acknowledged.

>Do they maintain a standing army?
Not as a group, but Yukari has a standing interest in Gensokyo continued existence and can mobilize her powers if needed. Gensokyo doesn't need an army but a police force, and the role of the Shrine Maiden can be likened to that police force. Reimu is backed by Yukari and most of Gensokyo's loose power structures.

>What do they do in times of flood and famine?
If caused by the supernatural, send agents to fight the threat. If perfectly natural, nothing, until it threatens the very foundation of Gensokyo, upon which they would probably discretely act to resolve the issue. This is mostly a moot point, as by the sketchy nature of Gensokyo a perfectly natural and long lasting flood or famine seems unlikely.

>And what about all those who sympathize with the secret history association?
The secret history association has no major pulls on the human villagers and no supernatural backing. They aren't seen as threat.

>Do the great sages pursue a policy of repression and oppression?
Neither. The great sages pursue a policy of laissez-faire, subtle social manipulation, and overwhelming force when aroused.

>And what of their children? Are they killed along with their parents, or are they subjected to indoctrination to be loyal to the Youkai regime?
The sages have no standing children.

>> No.20936332

>>20935741
She seems to realize the system is awful though. If the chips came down, and she had to pick a side, then she would almost certainly help the human villagers.

>> No.20936378

>>20936125
Awful. Youkai sages are pure evil, and obvious end game villains.

>> No.20937995

I really love the cute human hermit Kasen!

>> No.20938018

GENSOKYO NEEDS ANARCHY

>> No.20938033

>>20938018
t. Amanojaslut

>> No.20938105

>>20938018
It practically is most of the time

>> No.20939635

>>20938105
It's the worst kind of anarchy though. The type where nobody is free because the people at the top would kill you if you actually used the freedom you supposedly have.

>> No.20940693

>>20936378
That would be the Lunarians

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Great sages? More like great saggers!

>> No.20941318

>>20941286
I want to bury my head between those saggers

>> No.20941911

>>20940693
>The lunarians
Their time in the villain spotlight is already over.

>> No.20941963

>>20936125
>Seeing as Gensokyo is a youkai preserve most of all, living in a state of anarcho-kratocracy

Nigga wat, if anything Gensokyo is nothing but a loose alliance of feudal states.

>> No.20941979

so aside from the whole "you exist just to keep the youkai alive and powerful" which is the exact same way your government sees you, what makes life in the human village bad? is it the non-existant extreme natural disasters? the famines that never happen? the medical skills at eintei? the heatwaves that are literally cooler than the outside world?

>> No.20941989

>>20941979
>which is the exact same way your government sees you
1: That's now how most governments see you. 2: That's now how most governments should see you.

>what makes life in the human village bad?
It's a surveillance state with pre modern living standards and no functional government. It's like living in East Germany or North Korea, expect it's even worse and without any of the few good points those countries had.

>the famines that never happen?
You think this because?

>> No.20942046

>>20941989
>pre modern living standards

alright please define pre modern living standards.

and the evidence for famines not happening is that they're caused by evil gods, and you know what happens when an evil god threatens the entirety of the human village?

>> No.20942068

>>20942046
>alright please define pre modern living standards.
Living standards people had before the modern time period. If you want to be more precise, late Edo living standards. Which, by the standards of the world we have today, are on par with something like North Korea.

>and the evidence for famines not happening is that they're caused by evil gods
Do you have any evidence that ALL famines in the touhou universe are caused by evil gods?

>> No.20942094

>>20942068
I meant describe them goofus

and the evidence is that literally every single natural phenomenon shown is caused or heavily influenced by some god/spiritual entity or concept, including but not limited to, the weather, change in seasons, and even plant growth, by celestials/dragons, the "essence" of the seasons, and fairies.

>> No.20942236

>>20942094
>I meant describe them goofus
Well, to quote wikipedia: "Standard of living refers to the level of wealth, comfort, material goods, and necessities available to a certain socioeconomic class in a certain geographic area, usually a country."

Gensokyo is worse, WAY worse, than the modern world in all of these categories. Wealth is small, and unequally divided. Comfort is practically non existent among the lower and middle class. Material goods, both necessary and luxury, are scarce, with almost no safety net in place to keep unlucky people from starving to death.

>> No.20942240

>>20942094
>and the evidence is that literally every single natural phenomenon shown is caused or heavily influenced by some god/spiritual entity or concept,
The spiritual entity/gods are used to EXPLAIN natural phenomena, not cause them, in the Touhou universe. That's why Kyouko's entire race was almost wiped out by one science magazine.

>> No.20942304

>>20942240 they were wiped out by humans changing their belief of them into the belief of something else retard. And yes they do cause them, dragons make rainbows, Tenshi can literally make the weather whatever she wants, and Suwako can cause mudslides and create land.

>> No.20942408

>>20942236
thats another defenition, describe what specifically is lacking and why it's so necessary for life to not be horrible.

>> No.20942625

>>20942408
>specifically is lacking
Wealth. Comfort. Material goods. Necessities.

>why it's so necessary for life to not be horrible.
Because without such things. Life is tough, unpleasant, and short. Free time is nonexistent. The work is hard and painful. And what few joys you can find are short, and almost certainly bad for you. The only thing that makes life tolerable are the people around you, and the occasional festival.

>> No.20942781

Remember; the Lunarians are behind everything. All the time. Even when they’re not directly involved.

>> No.20942786

>>20942781
Go to sleep Yukari

>> No.20943120

>>20942068
East Germany and North Korea are workers paradise.

>> No.20945545 [DELETED] 

>>20942625
literally only two of those can be measured concretely, and those two are effectively the same thing, and they seem to have plenty of material goods seeing as they don't have to compete for resources.

>>20942625
>Life is tough, unpleasant, and short. Free time is nonexistent. The work is hard and painful. And what few joys you can find are short, and almost certainly bad for you
Ah I see now you're just a shithead who doesn't want to work.

>> No.20945559

>>20942625
>Wealth. Comfort. Material goods. Necessities.
Literally only two of those can be measured concretely, and those two are effectively the same thing, and they seem to have plenty of material goods seeing as they don't have to compete for resources.


>Life is tough, unpleasant, and short. Free time is nonexistent. The work is hard and painful. And what few joys you can find are short, and almost certainly bad for you
Ah I see now you're just a shithead who doesn't want to work a real job.

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>>20827031
I think Ran would be a good snuggle

>> No.20946159

>>20837289
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Gensokyo

>> No.20946175

>>20880695
>ooga booga where the youkai girls at

>> No.20946206

>>20824293
Chen's outfit is really cute!

>> No.20946257

Stop responding to him you retards.

>> No.20946268

>>20946257
and just kill possibly the only youkai of being a fucking prick online?

>> No.20947048

>>20946268
Yes.

>> No.20947296

>>20945559
>Literally only two of those can be measured concretely
I would say that all of these can be measured to a certain degree. It's pretty easy to measure the comfort of a society with running water and electricity to one without.

>and they seem to have plenty of material goods seeing as they don't have to compete for resources.
Where the fuck do you get that idea from? It's literally not true, considering we know Reimu is poor and a difference in wealth exist within the human village. If anything, the lack of resource production of a pre modern society means you are a lot more likely to starve to death.

>Ah I see now you're just a shithead who doesn't want to work a real job.
What, do you think the only "real" job is doing back breaking labour as a pre modern farmer? Look, you can try to deny it as much as you want, but work in a pre industrial society is awful. Being poor in Gensokyo is far, FAR worse than being poor in any decently developed country.

>> No.20947359

>>20947048
I'm conflicted on the matter though, by not killing him off, I'm demonstrating that I would play nice with youkai in gensokyo, and that would be a pretty big factor from a "would this person benefit the youkai" standpoint.

and @20947296
>implying pre-modern farming was actually that bad
try growing up in a situation where you have to do it, it's not that bad.

>> No.20947377

This is why no one likes Grimsokyotards. Kuso thread.

>> No.20947385

Gensokyo is paradise.

>> No.20947394

Gensokyo sucks if you're not on top.

>> No.20947440

Gensokyo rules even if you're not on top.

>> No.20947455

>>20947359
>try growing up in a situation where you have to do it, it's not that bad.
If you've done it from the day you were born, and you've given up any hope of ever improving your life, then it's not THAT bad. I mean, it's not so bad that suicide is seen as a preferable alternative.

It still sucks though. Pre modern life sucked in general if you weren't rich or powerful. Gensokyo is no exception.

>> No.20947460

>>20947385
Wrong.

>>20947394
Correct.

>>20947440
Wrong.

Gensokyo is shit. The youkai sages are villains. The sooner you just accept this, the better.

>> No.20947481

>>20947385
true
>>20947394
it can if you stop trying to improve yourself
>>20947440
based and sumireko-pilled

>> No.20947482

>>20947481
Fortune Teller got a splitting headache trying to improve his situation

>> No.20947484

>>20947482
>becoming evil
>improving yourself
Laughinghermits.jpg

Good joke though, made me giggle.

>> No.20947500

>>20947484
Who are you quoting?

Also, Fortune Teller did nothing wrong. He rebelled against evil.

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>>20947500
>comiting the greatest sin a human in the village can
>specifically doing so by staging a break from the netherworld using the power of spite
>not evil

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Becoming A Youkai Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Village Like Nigga Become a Hermit Haha

>> No.20947778

>>20861258
Spreading the truth about the human village is punishable by death.

>> No.20947843

>>20947524
Who are you quoting?

>> No.20947866

>>20947524
>Literally becoming a walking youkai rare candy.
>Being chased by the afterlife for centuries.
>Living in a freaking cave.
Hell no, Fortune Teller had the right idea. His only flaw was not killing Reimu first.

>> No.20947871

>>20947481
>it can if you stop trying to improve yourself
That's called: Being put on Yukari's depopulation list.

>based and sumireko-pilled
Literally the only reason Sumireko isn't dead is because she has a hard drive filled with info on Gensokyo back home. Otherwise she would have become youkai food a while ago.

Sumireko is also a walking parody of self insert characters. You aren't supposed to agree with her on anything.

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>>20947843
I believe reimu and the fortune teller respectively

>> No.20948477

>>20947954
Literally 90% of JP would have ended up as the Fortune Teller if they had actually lived in Gensokyo. The remaining 10% would have offed themselves without coming up with such a plan.

>> No.20948502

>>20947954
If he tells fortunes so well how come he couldn't foresee Reimu killing him again? Was that part of his master plan?

>> No.20949001

>>20948502
He did foresee Reimu killing him. Just, not the reason why.

Again, should have just killed her. It's not even that hard, just wait until she's asleep and slit her throat.

>> No.20949059

>>20949001
When? He had only just emerged when he was caught, and it's highly doubtful he could have gotten away with it while human.

>> No.20949177

>>20947871
Actually she's just a self-insert for the truly enlightened.

>> No.20949353

>>20949177
Have you even read her backstory or played Urban Legend in Limbo? She's really not portrayed very positively.

>> No.20949364 [DELETED] 

>>20949059
>and it's highly doubtful he could have gotten away with it while human.
1: Why? If anything, it would be way easier for a human to kill Reimu. 2: It would also be a lot harder for anybody to suspect him. Especially if he offs himself the next day. 3: Even if Yukari tracks him down and kills him afterwards. Who cares? He wants to die anyway. It doesn't matter if he offs him or Yukari does it.

There is literally no downside to killing Reimu for his plan. The only reason he didn't do it was because he was a decent person. If he had done what needed to be done, he would have gotten away with everything.

>> No.20949384

>>20949059
>and it's highly doubtful he could have gotten away with it while human.
1: Why? If anything, it would be way easier for a human to sneak into the hakurei shrine and kill her. 2: It would also be pretty unlikely for anybody to suspect him. Especially if he offs himself the next day. 3: Even if Yukari tracks him down and kills him afterwards. Who cares? He wants to die anyway. It doesn't matter if he offs himself or Yukari does it.

There is literally no downside to killing Reimu first. The only reason he didn't do it was because he was too decent of a purpose to murder her in cold blood. If he had done what needed to be done, he would have gotten away with everything.

>> No.20949634

>>20949353
thats her personality, what she does she's very good at.

>> No.20949640

>>20949384
could be his spell/ritual actually required that he kill himself and not be killed, he does say that the spell turned him into a youkai, the book was only to bring himself back.

>> No.20950112

>>20949634
>what she does she's very good at.
But she doesn't do anything she could be good at. She's a nobody with a massive ego, using Gensokyo as her own wish fulfillment paradise despite the fact the place literally views her as food. It almost gets her killed, twice.

>> No.20950120

>>20949640
Even if that is true. It would have been safer to simply kill Reimu and then kill himself afterwards.

>> No.20950231

>>20950120
eh, he thought she'd let him go so he probably didn't care about her.

>> No.20951442

>>20950112
>She's a nobody with a massive ego, using Gensokyo as her own wish fulfillment paradise despite the fact the place literally views her as food. It almost gets her killed, twice.
So the average touhou fan?

>> No.20953525

>>20951442
No

>> No.20955966

>>20947843
Who are you quoting?

>> No.20958153

>>20824293
I don't think Gensokyo is centralized in anyway or form

>> No.20958214

>>20955966
Anonymous No.20947524 (Dead)

>> No.20958302

>>20958214
I am very much not dead! I'm just trying to help other anons avoid the wrath of the Slasher, the lady of the Gap, and the the Yama. though it would seem my efforts are not appreciated

>> No.20959533

>>20958302
Ignore them and speak the truth.

>> No.20960934

>>20958302
Listen to them

>> No.20960942

>>20824293
Politics are right out the window when it's basically a clique of really long lived people.

>> No.20963505

>>20960942
how so?

>> No.20964468

>>20960942
so then american politics are right out the window?

>> No.20965704

>>20964468
No

>> No.20966062

>>20951442
Pretty much. She's a walking parody of bad Touhou fans. Unsurprisingly, actual Touhou fans don't realize this.

>> No.20966063

>>20950231
Indeed. That was his big mistake. Always kill the hakurei shrine maiden.

>> No.20966103

>>20966062
>bad
if she can go to gensokyo and you can't she's better than you, scrub
sumimi is the touhou fan ascended

>> No.20966126

>>20966103
She wants to go to Gensokyo for incredibly stupid and selfish reasons. Almost destroyed Gensokyo when she first visited. And would have been killed by youkai if it wasn't for Reimu escorting her around. She also has the self awareness of a dead mouse.

Again, the fact that you can't see the fact that she's supposed to be a parody of you is proof enough that you don't actually understand Touhou or Gensokyo. It's not, and never has been, a place sane rational people actually want to go.

>> No.20967378

>>20882300
She eats old man cum
For the rest of her days

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>>20865429
wrong

>> No.20969107

>>20966126
Slander and libel

>> No.20970543

>>20966126
What reasons?
>Almost
>Would have
All's well that end's well.
Sumi a based, you don't understand 2hu/gensokyo, kiddo.

>> No.20970545

>>20970543
Wrong!

>> No.20970582

>>20970545
Nope.

>> No.20971126

>>20967411
Kogasa is terrifying poor villagers for her own amusement.

>> No.20972022

>>20971126
but she doesn't eat them!

>> No.20972657

>>20971126
>Kogasa is terrifying
they're only pretending, some of them trusted her enough to let her babysit.

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>>20972657
I trust her enough for baby making

>> No.20975550

>>20966126
> It's not, and never has been, a place sane rational people actually want to go.
Why do you expect us to be sane or rational?

>> No.20976184

>>20975550
I don't. The point is that Sumireko wanting to go to Gensokyo is viewed as a really dumb decision by everybody involved. Up to and including ZUN.

>>20970543
>What reasons?
A combination of looking for excitement and her massive ego.

>All's well that end's well.
Her story isn't even completely over yet. More importantly, her incompetence nearly resulted in the complete destruction of Gensokyo twice. She isn't supposed to be somebody you view as "based". Most people would understand that. Expect, obviously, the people she's supposed to parody.

>> No.20976249

>>20966126
>It's not, and never has been, a place sane rational people actually want to go.

hmm, who could have guessed a place separated from the rest of the world by a barrier of common sense, WOULDN'T be a place sensible people want to go?

But you know what, if you were pretty carefree, and did what seemed like fun, gensokyo would probably be pretty nice.

>> No.20976321

>>20973988
Don't do that

>> No.20980205

>>20976321
Why not?

>> No.20980247

>>20976184
>excitement
Oh dear, someone's visiting a paradise wonderland for excitement, somebody call the fun police!
>massive ego
Just cause she's not an insecure pleb like you.
>isn't over yet
Yeah cause ZUN's gonna have Sumimi blow up Gensokyo or get eaten by youkai, right.
>most people
Most normalfaggots.
>except, obviously, the people
Except, obviously, based and red-pilled sumirekofags.

>> No.20980301

Kuso thread. All of you, kill yourselves.

>> No.20980450

>>20824293
>What are the great sages tax policy?

The Sages are basically cartels running extortion rackets while the Yama is also bribed to let them do whatever they want with impunity.

>> No.20983879

>>20831042
I will love them even more because I need my liver back!

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