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New guide:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/
Old guide for those afraid of change:
https://djtguide.neocities.org/

Remember: Don't listen to any advice from DJT
前スレ: >>21039019

>> No.21047594

>>21046334

>> No.21047598

Please don't turn this into another e-celeb thread.

>> No.21047619
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>> No.21047624

I just don't fucking care anymore about learning vocab, I'll just read a lot, look a lot up until I understand shit. Is that a good strategy? In some way, at least?
I'm just tired of having to repeat vocab all the time when I just want to have more input.

>> No.21047655

>>21047624
When I read I read. I don't bother obsessively mining everything I see because I don't care. I will look shit up and leave it at that. Some things stick and some don't. If you see stuff often enough you get the hang of it anyways. No one is forced to use Anki to do this.

>> No.21047667

>>21047439
Seems to me that the answer they want to hear is clearly A but I'm not sure why D would be wrong either.

>> No.21047703

>>21047655
anki is useful if you want fast vocab gains and decreased lookups. if you don't care about speed of vocab gains, or already have really infrequent lookups, then you don't need anki. for someone who still needs to look up every 5-10 sentences or even more often than that, anki is the superior choice for filling in those holes.

>> No.21047707

who here is into leveling up their metacognitive awareness?

>> No.21047722

who here is into eating ass ?

>> No.21047733

>>21047722
>eating ass
黒人見つけた

>> No.21047737

Is it true that if you are having too much fun studying you aren't working hard enough? Should I do more Anki and review grammar books instead of reading?

>> No.21047743

>>21047737
Yes. Having fun indicates that you are merely using the skills you already have, not developing new ones.

>> No.21047765

>>21047737
nope, i gamified my anki with rewards and visual stimulation and i've learned over 300 words the past month while having fun, plus reading a lot. don't listen to that grandpa over there.

>> No.21047771

What should I do if I start forgetting a lot of kanji? (RTK)
At this point I'm overwhelmed with reviews in Anki and I just keep forgetting more and more and adding more and more reviews each day.

>> No.21047775

>>21047737
Yes learning is at odds with having fun. Every time you feel yourself slip over the fun threshhold you should self correct as soon as possible to push it back across the learning boundary or else all that time is going to waste.

>> No.21047777

>>21047771
give up on RTK and learn Japanese

>> No.21047785

>>21047771
It's time to double down. Do you want to learn Japanese or not? Better whip your weak brain into shape or give up forever. You should increase your daily new cards for a while to really show your resolve.

>> No.21047815

>>21047771
Stop adding new cards, and do you reps and watch more anime until things calm down in anki.

>> No.21047834

>>21047624
sounds good

>> No.21047841

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dql2DJCyz0I

>> No.21047842

>>21047771
fix your awkward stories and stop doing new cards for a few days.

>> No.21047847

>>21047842
actual good advice on djt


珍しいでございますね

>> No.21047874

>>21047771
stop doing retarded kanji remembering and just watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime ftw

>> No.21047877

>>21047874
do this but the opposite

>> No.21047894

if u do the opposite u wont learn japanese

just like the rest of em

>> No.21047917

gaijin shoujo wo mitara ore wa kanojo wo kansuru

>> No.21047929

watashiwa gayjin

>> No.21047986

what does なんじゃない after a noun mean? the なん part is what's confusing me.

>> No.21047996

っんだよ

>> No.21048003

7000 words in anki, spent hundred of hours reading VN and LN

so why is there three words I can't read each sentence on this new VN I just started?

>> No.21048006

cuz ur still new to japanese

>> No.21048064

>>21048003
because 7k words is fuck all you need at least +20k

>> No.21048071

>>21048003
because either you haven't learned those words yet, or you did but forgot them. できねーよ

>> No.21048073

sometimes I wish I were an ankidrone just so I would know the exact size of my vocabulary

>> No.21048078

i just settle for being able to crack open a nice visual game on a whim and enjoy it instead

>> No.21048087

>>21048003
sounds like you didn't watch senpai's Q&A vid but japanese is a hard language because it has many more words than languages like chinese.

>> No.21048090

I checked Matt's vocab answers and they were all correct. More confirmation that JCAT is a random number generator.

>> No.21048099

ok thx for the update chief but keep this post in mind before posting again >>21047598

>> No.21048108
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21048108

Help I still don't know when 開く is pronounced ひらく or あく.

>> No.21048110

>>21048090
you probably don't have the ability to tell if they're correct or not desu lol. as if you know what nuance each word has

>> No.21048114

>>21048108
too fuckin bad dude gonna just have to deal with a life of uncertainty

>> No.21048136
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21048136

Newstudent here
why the hell the past of 寝る becomes 寝った and きる becomes きった
while 見る becomes 見た and 考える turn into 考えた if all of them are る verbs? shouldn't all of them just end in った?

>> No.21048148

>>21048136
wait till i blow ur mind and show u 寝た

>> No.21048170

Is it counter productive if I'm n4 dekinai and I want to watch something fairly difficult without subs instead of slice of life?
I like slice of life the most I think, but I'm getting burned out like fuck recently. Barely have any patience for half an episode

>> No.21048183

>Admittedly rake jcat twice
>still get 84%
lolol

>> No.21048186

>>21048136
three of those are ichidan verbs and one is a godan verb. Your conjugation of 寝った is wrong, its 寝た. Accordingly the Ichidan verbs all end in た and the one Godan verb you had ends in った

>> No.21048191

小惑星を学ぶのが大好き

>> No.21048194

>>21048191
小学生を学ぶのが大好き

>> No.21048197

>>21048136
It doesn't. 寝る becomes 寝た and 着る becomes 着た.
Also pretty sure every guide tells you this, but some verbs that end in "ru" are actually u-verbs.
Like 参る turns into 参った.

>> No.21048200

>>21048110
https://youtu.be/8r4NjebYf7g?t=2216
Show me one wrong answer.
Don't tell me you don't have three minutes to watch the vocab section when you're shitposting here.

>> No.21048202

>>21048108
how does it ever even matter?

>> No.21048204

>>21048136
>>21048186
And I'm heavily assuming your きる is actually 切る and not 着る or else it would be 着た as well. Jus magical.

>> No.21048210

>>21048200
>>21047598

>> No.21048211 [DELETED] 

Stupid question, but is there a way to review how many new cards you have went through in Anki?
I wanna know how many new words I learned so far

>> No.21048214 [DELETED] 

God-tier reason to watch anime:
>learning 日本語
Acceptable reasons to watch anime:
>animation
>cute girls
>fanservice
>lolis
>shotas
>escape from real life
Retarded reasons to watch anime:
>plot
>philosophical depth
>storytelling
>realism
>engaging character development
>to shit on it later

>> No.21048216

>>21048211
you dont know that till its at least matured and you're retarded if you didnt know that

>> No.21048221

>>21048170
productivity doesnt matter

>> No.21048228

rip the anime greentext post it was mostly bad

>> No.21048242

>>21048170
It's only counterproductive, to me at least, if you can't learn something beneficial from input. If it's difficult in the sense that you probably won't understand much, but there's a lot of beneficial stuff you could learn, that doesn't seem counterproductive

>> No.21048248

if u wanna do it its not counterproductive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kMJKiSUXUs

>> No.21048250

this thread has taken a bad turn we need a banger god damn it

>> No.21048257

i posted the banger

>> No.21048267

>>21048257
debateble

>> No.21048273

How do people here slavisly stick to some fantasy plan on what media they should consume? Nigga just do whatever the fuck you want.

I read / watch / play whatever I feel like and worry about figuring out the Japanese while I do whatever it is I want to do. Why do people make everything so complicated?

>> No.21048281

>>21048273
now this is a post i can get behind

https://streamable.com/s3yep

>> No.21048285

>>21048273
umm immerse more which is known to us all so..

>> No.21048299

>>21048273
his guts are missing in my imaginary adventure

>> No.21048307
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21048307

What the fuck?

>> No.21048308

Define immersion.

>> No.21048311

>>21048273
>Nigga just do whatever the fuck you want.
we'd all stop learning japanese tomorrow if we did this. don't give advice.

>> No.21048318

>>21048307
bring on teh eros fuckboy

>> No.21048362

>>21048136
>why the hell the past of 寝る becomes 寝った
It doesn't, it's 寝た
>and きる because きった
it would help to specify the verb you're talking about, as multiple verbs use きる
>shouldn't all of them just end in った?
Why would they? What says they all should? (These are the questions you should be asking yourself, then look into them)

It's best, in my opinion to think about verbs that end in る as either being いる/える verbs, or not いる/える verbs. If a verb has the final sound いる or える (走る, 見る, 知る, 食べる), then it MIGHT conjugate regularly. By regularly I mean 見る for example 見た, 見て, etc. If you don't like me using "regularly" that's fine, but just know that I mean by dropping the stem off and then adding the endings. But there are exceptions, like 走る and 知る for example (知った 走った, etc etc). These exceptions are pretty rare though. And verbs that end in る, but don't have the いる / える sound at the end, like 成る (なる) for example, they conjugate like the いる える exceptions (なった, なって etc etc).

>> No.21048371

i cant believe u thought u had something else of value to say to warrant writing that post for something that had already been taken care of

>> No.21048372

>>21048311
>we
Nice delusion. Sucks to be you.

>> No.21048387

>>21048372
>it's not a tiny minuscule fraction of learners who find it boring to consume shit they don't understand
talk about delusion

>> No.21048390

>>21048387
Who are you quoting?

>> No.21048397

before u fight i just want u all to know ur retarded and im smarter wealthier and more handsome than u

protect urself and obey my commands at all times lets have a clean tardfight

>> No.21048400

>>21048371
>had already been taken care of
>thinking clarifying which verbs were godan and which were ichidan verbs actually solves the problem
できないやつだねぇぇ

>> No.21048403

i shut u down like 2 threads ago dont @ me like i havent forgotten

>> No.21048409

u havent forgotten* those keys r 2 close together

>> No.21048411

>>21048403
>議論がない

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>>21048307

>> No.21048421

>>21048400
oh it's the retard who kept writing 漢字を読めない that explains a lot

>> No.21048422

>>21048397
wealthier and handsomer? likely. but smarter? no way in hell buddy i've smashed you too many times now

>> No.21048432

If you guys could find a single mistake in Matt-sama's jcat the streamable link would be permanently added to the OP but instead you're forced to settle for snipping out two questions where he complained a little before giving the right answer.

>> No.21048434

>>21048421
>forgetting that was proven to be natural
>not having an argument
できない

>> No.21048445

>>21048432
it's already been established that no one here has scored higher, and future results from here can't be trusted because of cheating.

>> No.21048461

>>21048422
So do you know Japanese yet?

>> No.21048467

>>21048461
no and i don't plan on learning it. this is DET

>> No.21048471

>>21048467
>no
Good.

>> No.21048474

>>21048471
glad someone else is on the same wavelength. best stuff gets translated already.

>> No.21048475

>>21048090
>More confirmation that JCAT is a random number generator.
maybe it takes time taken for each answer into account

>> No.21048476

>>21048422
i cant think of any times mostly cuz im 2 busy owning feel free to try tho any time any place step up to get noogied by ur nice uncle : )

>> No.21048479

>>21048474
Don't get me wrong, I've already learned it. I'm just glad you won't.

>> No.21048480

What's with these two 通り魔 damaging the 平和 itt

>> No.21048482

>>21048479
you realized how pointless it was and appreciate my high IQ decision not to do it. makes sense thank you

>> No.21048487

we still havent made it back to anything resembling heiwa dude

the last few threads are going to take months to recover from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WaMgpAwM7A

>> No.21048492

>>21048482
I suppose we can leave it at that.

>> No.21048495

>>21048492
i'm not leaving shit buddy

>> No.21048497

>>21048003
LNs use a lot of words that are very uncommon in other kinds of books. がんばれー and take your time, anki is your friend.

>> No.21048499

if u were sincere about that u wouldnt have hit that post button

>> No.21048504

>>21048073
even if you are you won’t know lol. if you wanna know it’s better to use japanese text analyzer.

>> No.21048506

>>21048495
I am - done eating dinner and gonna go back to reading an untranslated VN on my PlayStation Vita handheld game console. See you around.

>> No.21048507

>>21048387
>everybody here hates japanese content as much as me
talk about delusion

>> No.21048511

>>21048507
you didn't even call me out on using the wrong word lol what an idiot japanese content sucks when you don't know shit

>> No.21048512

>>21048506
imagining georges wife saying this exact post as she xd out of that convo w. matt

>> No.21048513

>>21048495
but uve left so much shit in the thread already

>> No.21048517

>>21048513
i intentionally phrased my post in that way to invite a response like this so be thankful

>> No.21048523

>>21048511
if it sucks when u suck it will prob still suck if u ever dont
but ull never know cuz ull never not suck if u cant enjoy it now

>> No.21048525

Thinking of learning Japanese. Do I need to learn Chinese and Korean first or can I jump right into it?

>> No.21048530

it was never about japanese

u just wanted to feel close to something new

unfortunately u fucked up real bad and shoulda just got close to jesus instead

u could be on the fast track to heaven right now if u did

>> No.21048536

>>21048525
in the same way RTK doesn't teach you japanese but vastly increases your learning efficiency, that logic can be used to compel people to learn korean and chinese. so yes you should learn them.

RTGayers don't have a genuine response to this. gg

>> No.21048539

>>21048136
and this is why studying grammar is important, friends

>> No.21048544

>>21048170
it will be difficult and you’ll understand very little (20% or less probs) but if the stuff you’ll be able to pick up seems worth it then all power to you! i’d personally at least try going with japanese subs though

>> No.21048547

>>21048536
>learning Japanese doesn't teach you Japanese

>> No.21048548

>>21048539
its really not u would know this from just watching anime w. eng subs lol

>> No.21048552

>>21048397
nigga no one here is richer than me in wealth or intellect haha i’m おかねもち AND かしこい bitch

>> No.21048558

You wouldn't even get a change against me in a 西部劇. Keep dreaming bouzu

>> No.21048560

>>21048530
heaven isn’t real bro just meditate

>> No.21048567

How to regain focus when reading? I feel like after I've read about 10 pages my mind is just burnt out.

>> No.21048569

>all these dekinai sucking their own cocks when they can't even best Matt-sama

omoshiroi desune

>> No.21048575

>>21048547
define learning japanese cuz trust me 95% of u are not and the results speak for themselves

wheres baller sky guy i guess hes still playin tenshi ping pong while the rest of u jiggle ur codpieces while i have to watch it all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHiGbolFFGw#t=252

>>21048552
idk i was mostly shooting fish in a barrel w. the monetary wealth angle but im the levitating dude from the 311 down video lmao

anyway if u wanna empty out the pockets of ur heart ull find urs are infinitely emptier than mine

>> No.21048581

>>21048567
Read more.

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>>21048575
>the rest of u
no love for my suffering

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いちばんきちょうなどうぐ

>> No.21048613

>>21048598
r u the guy stuck in a eternal suckass vn that never ends lol

>> No.21048622

>>21048613
no there was a big breakthrough >>21044377
i even held ctrl for 20 fucking minutes for true end
its good if someone knows what i went through though

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>>21048622
should go with one from the chart next time

>> No.21048645

tho that image was pretty good lol

>> No.21048650

>>21048575
>define learning Japanese
The acquisition of the Japanese language needed to read, listen, write, or speak in Japanese - it can be the acquisition of one of these aspects or multiple aspects (though these skills are, to varying degrees, inherently intermixed with one another).

>> No.21048653

>>21048650
now explain how ur doing this

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>>21048631
thats the plan

>> No.21048662

>>21048659
that 1s pretty good it really did almost feel like the good old days

>> No.21048673

reminder: waito piggus can never truly learn japanese

>> No.21048674

>>21048653
rtk, reading news articles, watching native material (youtubers, shows, etc), listening to native podcasts

>> No.21048679

>>21048673
できないヤツは言う

>> No.21048681

>>21048567
train your mind to have stronger and more effortless attentional capacity and less distractibility.

>> No.21048682

>>21048659
btw it also has a actual banger op lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdB1YB4vPBM#t=81

>>21048674
asked for an explanation not a list of retarded things u do (some of which may be of some benefit)

>> No.21048693

>>21048673
dewa ii desu
watashi wa hanbun ratino desu

>> No.21048696

i dont think u understand how fucked up "ratino" looks lmao

>> No.21048699

>>21048682
an explanation of what? all you said was "now explain how you're doing this", which I clearly did. if you wanted something else be mad at yourself for not elaborating. I dare you to actually elaborate without bitching.

>> No.21048705

>>21048699
just read this post >>21048653 again and see if some ur cranial nerves and synapses and shit start firing lol

seems like ive already found the root of the problem based on what u just said tho

>> No.21048714

>>21048705
read it, answered your question.

>> No.21048720

>>21048714
then were back to >>21048682

god that op bangs tho lol

>> No.21048723

>>21048720
then we're back to >>21048699

>> No.21048728

>浴衣
>浴
>浴びる
Why do Japanese literally go into public in bath robes?

>> No.21048734

if i was truly heartless id just tell u to keep reloading ur save till u figure out the flag

but ill give u a hinto

ur at the river ur watching the water flow by studying it very intently

however this is not solving ur hydration issue until u get what its got and put it in u

i want u 2 explain that process of putting it in u

now keep in mind i can visibly tell u are very dehydrated and have ashy elbows and shit

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21048763

Finally returned to learning Japanese after a 3 month break where I lost interest. Doesn't feel like my comprehension level has really gone down much, if at all, though I do feel like my reading speed has gotten pretty sluggish compared to what it was before. Hopefully I should be able to fix that before long though.

Anyway, I was part way through a VN when I quit, and despite thinking I was only about 50% of the way through it, it turns out the remaining routes are really short compared to the ones I'd already cleared (finished one of them in a single day yesterday and got about half way through one of the remaining two today).

Since it seems like I will probably have finished this VN by either the end of tomorrow or Tuesday, does anyone have any recommendations for what I could read next? Because of the huge break I took, I don't have anything lined up. I can handle slice of life content just fine at the level I'm currently at, so something a bit more plot-heavy (but not Muramasa-tier difficult) seems like it would be a suitable challenge at this stage. Don't really care about the genre, so long as the story and characters are good/interesting.

>> No.21048767

>>21048763
Try CROSS十CHANNEL.

>> No.21048782

imagine a nihongoer reading cross channel never noticing anything in how it reads lol and thats just the surface level

>> No.21048784

>>21048767
I thought that was supposed to be Muramasa-tier difficult?

>> No.21048790

>>21048784
the thing that makes cross channel so good is because its actually mostly easy and enjoyable to read before u know it the whole thing will be over

its one of those easy to get into difficult to master hentai games if u catch my drift : )

>> No.21048794

>>21048784
Don't worry, it only has 2271 kanji as oppposed to Muramasa's 3086. It's a breeze to read. See http://wiki.wareya.moe/TLWiki%20Stats

>> No.21048802

i just realized that because vns drop feed sentences i spend more time attempting to understand the sentence than i would if all the text were laid out in front of me on a page

>> No.21048807

>>21048802
so u mean u try to understand half of a sentence or something before clicking on ? lol

>> No.21048813

>>21048807
i mean that even if i get the gist of a sentence in a VN i'll spend minutes trying to understand why it means what it means instead of just inferring it based on the words used and the context. so it takes me forever to get through it.

>> No.21048821

>>21048813
so u mean u get stuck on a sentence but it makes more sense when u have the paragraph so to speak

yah i mean i get that but here try this when reading a epic hentai game

skip the mental step of "trying" to understand

just read the shit

eventually ull see where things are going much faster that u prolly wont have this issue

>> No.21048823

>>21048790
>>21048794
Alright, might give that a shot then.

If anyone has any other suggestions though, I'm still open to them.

>> No.21048827

is it impossible to type 人妻 with windows ime. I clicked auto convert option in advanced settings too

>> No.21048842

>>21048827
To get づ you have to type du. It's fixed like that. So you need to put "hitoduma" in the IME.

This handy guide points it out: http://nihonshock.com/2010/04/12-japanese-ime-tips/

>> No.21048846

like oh my god guys its impossible to type 気づく w. windows ime like i totally clicked whatever in the settings too

>> No.21048849

>>21048794
>http://wiki.wareya.moe/TLWiki%20Stats
What's with the lack of correlation between line count and file size here? How is it that ChuSinGura 46+1 with its 346,498 lines has a smaller size than Kikaijikake no Eve -Dea Ex Machina- which only has 45,143 lines? Which statistic is the better indicator of length?

>> No.21048850

btw link the hentai u were lookin for my ninja lol

>> No.21048852

>>21048827
IMEs use this romanization instead of Hepburn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon-shiki_romanization

>> No.21048857

>>21048849
Not sure, but TLWiki stats are inconsistent because they were ripped by various people through different methods. http://wiki.wareya.moe/Stats is more reliable but has less stuff.
>Which statistic is the better indicator of length?
Script size.

>> No.21048878

>>21048849
NVL vs ADV.

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21048880

>>21048852
this chart is more complete for babys first ime

>> No.21048883

>>21048108
ドアが開く
ドアを開く
its that easy man

>> No.21048890

hiraku the tobira lol

>> No.21048891

>>21048857
>Script size.
By which you mean file size, right?

>>21048878
Both of those are ADV though.

>> No.21048899

>>21048108
Google. Search something like "開く あく ひらく 違い" on Japanese Google.

>> No.21048919

どうやってassを食べるの ?

>> No.21048933

>>21048919
貴方はゲイですね

>> No.21048937

>>21048849
ChuSinGura's lines were probably counted wrong.

>> No.21048938

まずは相手のbutt cheeksを開いて

>> No.21048945

>>21048933
まあね

>> No.21048962

>>21048108
This isn't a definitive answer by any means, but 1. it should be known that ひらく can apparently be used for both transitive and intransitive situations, and あく is strictly for intransitive situations (開く, not 空く or 明く) and 2. I looked up 「が開く」(intransitive) and all of the readings were あく, and for を開く (transitive) all of the readings were ひらく. So as a rule of thumb you're probably fine reading the intransitive instances as あく and ひらく for transitive instances.

>> No.21048967

>>21048962
I didn't clarify, I looked up sentences in jisho.org using 「が開く」and 「を開く」 and those were my results. Just so we're 透明

>> No.21048969

ドアが悪

>> No.21048996

>>21048967
i think what u wanted to say here was 明確 unless u were talking about ur skin tone

>> No.21049005

>>21047707
nah
>>21047722
yea

>> No.21049015

>>21047771
pretty much >>21047842

adding daily cards is gonna suck ass no matter what if you're behind
adding cards is essentially useless if you're behind on review, whats the point of learning something new if you haven't mastered what you need to first

>> No.21049018

>>21048108
how do you know how "read" is pronounced? context

>> No.21049028

>>21048996
no, I wanted to make a pun. I know 透明 is used with physical attributes

>> No.21049030

>tfw bought genki+wanikaniand already learned hiragana+katakana and some kanji in 1.5 months thank to it
Feels fucking great man, I’m going to start speaking in Japanese now and forming my own thoughts to reach fluency more quickly

>> No.21049033

>>21049030
is this bait

>> No.21049034

>>21049030
literally worst b8 of 2019. go back to the drawing board

>> No.21049035

>>21049028
oh uh ok but no one is gonna see it that way because u were literally referencing jisho.org in ur post which immediately makes u look retarded

>> No.21049039

>>21049035
cry more

>> No.21049040

>>21048782
When you say "how it reads," do you mean like stylistically? A masterwork that can only be appreciated after reading enough normal stuff?

>> No.21049042

lol you guys are so insecure

>> No.21049043

projection

>> No.21049049

>>21049040
its nothing that serious if u have any sense of what poetry sounds like ull get it right away

the masterwork discussion is for all the below the surface goodies : )

>> No.21049052

>>21049039
sry didnt mean to own u so hard maybe u could 開くur 心 and forgive me haha

>> No.21049057

>>21049052
皮肉なこと

>> No.21049068

whats a good site to download raw manga

>> No.21049069

皮肉にもわたしはゲイ

>> No.21049072

>>21049040
To put it very simply, Romeo is far more intelligent than anyone reading this thread, including myself. There are a great deal of very high level concepts in Cross Channel and any aspiring reader is going to need to accept that he probably doesn’t understand it all. From there, you reach the point of actually researching and interpreting all this shit, which could take years, honestly. And then you also have to consider that the vast majority of people just don’t have the level of reading comprehension or education necessary to really start to approach interpreting and understanding Cross Channel on anything but a surface level.

>> No.21049077

>>21049072
not gonna lie all i was thinking about was nanakas drawers while reading that post

>> No.21049102
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21049102

im still just thinkin back to what a fuckin experience this writing was

>> No.21049118

>>21049035
woah dude, autistic dekinai who are never gonna get fluent in Japanese are gonna think I'm stupid? omg nooooo I'm so distraught.

>> No.21049123
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21049123

cant we all stop fighting and be iidati

>> No.21049130
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21049130

can’t wait to play this

>> No.21049140

>>21049068
just google the name of the manga in japanese + “.zip だうんろーど”

>> No.21049144

>>21049130
Pc version has option for both jp text and dialogue, if you didnt know

>> No.21049149
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21049149

can’t wait to play this

>> No.21049157

>>21049149
i'm just imagining how long it would take me to read through those long-ass rape sequences with a text hooker and a baby tier understanding of the language. in the english version they already felt neverending, yeesh

>> No.21049189

invoking the old masters to ask a stupid beginner question:
how do i stop using guides and looking up recommended play orders for VNs?

>> No.21049207

>>21049189
>>21048273

>> No.21049238

>>21048530
jesus is always there for you guy

>> No.21049291

>>21049189
have u tried not doing that

>> No.21049320

Kats Rogo
Matt Bonder
Matthew Hawkins
Benjamin Yang
Luke Truman

>> No.21049333

>>21049320
someday ill be on that list without even having to pay them to talk to me

>> No.21049347

>>21049189
why would you? games usually have an important play order (for games with a single writer, or any non moe/nuki ge) OR only two routes matter (the true route and the other route the main scenario writer wrote)

>> No.21049378

>>21049102
Picked up.

>> No.21049381

>>21049333
I hope you do, DJTshitters have a 100% failure rate

>> No.21049399

>>21047986
Im pretty sure it means the same as "isn't it?" at the end of a sentence

>> No.21049441

>>21047581
working on homework for a japanese class im taking. the assignment is to write about your hometown
trying to make a sentence that uses the format of
(more than two things) の中で(one of the things)が一番(something)です。
does this sentence make sense?
ニューヨークはきれいくないと(insert my tiny hometown here)は大きくないからニューヨークと(insert my tiny hometown here)とボストンの中でボストンが一番大すきです。

>> No.21049463

>>21049441
Feels pretty awkward, but not too grammatically incorrect.
Conjugating きれい like that is completely wrong, though.

>> No.21049466
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21049466

>>21049441
>きれいくない

>> No.21049472

>>21049441
あんまりよくないかなあ

>東海岸の大都市の中でボストンが一番大きな町です。

こういうかんじだよ

>> No.21049481

>>21049472
>>21049466
>>21049463
thanks.

>> No.21049495

I guess while I'm at it I'll ask another question.
We have to use either どこにも or どこかに in a sentence and this one also seems a bit weird.
私はどこかに大きい町を住んでいるつもりです。
I had already written the sentence without どこかに and threw it in after
I'm trying to say something along the lines of "I intend to live anywhere as long as it's a big city"
this sentence was originally supposed to check the box for using つもり

>> No.21049499
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21049499

I'm having trouble understanding the text in the image.

静葉はどっち?

お姉ちゃんの方
中ボスの方
穣ってない方
(What does 方 mean here?)

私だってそれなりにあるんだからね

*それなりにあるけど妹と比べられて気にしてるカンジでどうか

(Can you break down the meaning of these?)

>> No.21049514

>>21049495
かなりかえたほうがいい

>"I intend to live anywhere as long as it's a big city"
>それなりに大きい町に住んでいるの/んだ

>> No.21049563

Can someone upload 宵物語 please?

>> No.21049582

>can't stop translating everything to english automatically in my head
When does this stop?

>> No.21049589

>>21049582
after you’ve read and listened more

>> No.21049632

How do you explain the difference between それ and その? It's something that doesn't even exist in English, right?

>> No.21049642
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21049642

今日花束貰った!嬉しい(*´ω`*)

>> No.21049680
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21049680

Anyone else can't wait for Matt to release
1. the epic MIA video - a 4 part video series or a single 35 minute video, will absolutely redpill you on the only real way to speak Japanese exactly like how a Japanese man would, complete with pitch accent and a native-like ability to read the atmosphere
2. the two fully fleshed out 5-stage MIA approaches, with every planned article and video finally being written and done, so you know exactly how to learn Japanese like a native every single step (maybe every single day) of the way

>> No.21049701

Anyone else can't wait for Matt to release
1. the epic MIA video - a 4 part video series or a single 35 minute video, will absolutely redpill you on the only real way to speak Japanese exactly like how Matt would, complete with pitch accent and a Matt-like ability to read the atmosphere
2. the two fully fleshed out 5-stage MIA approaches, with every planned article and video finally being written and done, so you know exactly how to learn Japanese like Matt every single step (maybe every single 瓶) of the way

>> No.21049704

>>21049701
Lol, do your Genki drills, rote memorize kanji, and keep watching anime with English subs. Scrub.

>> No.21049705

0/3

>> No.21049706

>>21049680
Stop posting about that autistic homo

>> No.21049722
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21049722

https://www.aozora.gr.jp/cards/001341/files/49669_40537.html

When are you going to drop the games and novels made for little kids and start reading real Japanese?

>> No.21049724
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21049724

Can anyone translate this please it's on a shirt I found

>> No.21049730

>>21049722
Only after 1 year of listening to Japanese without reading ANYTHING in it at all.

>> No.21049732

>>21049724
なんかかいてあるけど

あんまりたいしたことはかいてないとおもうよ

>> No.21049768

>>21049732
i don't believe you

>> No.21049771

>……ただ俺が、その場所の記憶とともに思い出すのは、別荘に持ち込んだドリー○キャス○でプレイした『サ○ラ大○』シリーズだったり、全話マラソン視聴した『君○望○○○』や『○月○○姫』のアニメだったりで、山奥の別荘に一週間も泊とまっておきながら朝から晩まで何やってたんだと自分を省かえりみずにはいられない
would anyone like to fill in the blanks?

>> No.21049775

How often is "you" or "your" implied in Japanese? I find that it's omitted quite often.

>> No.21049790

Imagine being so far into the autism spectrum you think immersion doesn't work

>> No.21049825
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21049825

Immersion sucks~!

>> No.21049840

>>21049771
http://fuseji.net/

>> No.21049857

>>21049840
thanks anon.

>> No.21049864
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21049864

yooshi, time for immersion

>> No.21049898

>BritVSJapan got an okay girlfriend 2 years into AJATT and has been happily immersing for close to 4 years now
>Nick was hardcore immersing for close to 3 years but ragequit because he got ostracized after outing the mainland Chinese TA-downlow prostitute "girlfriend" he was dating who was shagging one of the Japanese professors at his university
>instead of just moving to Tokyo or another prefecture (he was studying in some lame part of Japan) he flies back to murrica and doesn't want to have anything to do with Japan ever again

>> No.21049903

>>21049632
>That is a pen
>That pen is green
それ is the "that" in the first, and その is the "that" in the second. English is a dumb language for losing that distinction, even its closest relative Frisian still has it.

>> No.21049929

never really felt the joy of reading all my life till japanese

>> No.21049945
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21049945

めっだまっやき

めだまっやき

おいしいと

うれしい

>> No.21049947

>>21049929
You'll also enjoy your unfixable gaijin accent for your whole life, since you decided to learn reading first.

>> No.21049953

Is it really hard for you to set up your room like this and live this lifestyle for at least 2 or 3 years to get native level fluent good in Japanese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Qxr8OGkaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34i9lr94pI&list=PLcQH2ZuCaXSZ0RrQZap_4r-oYiCaRB4vx&index=6

>> No.21049956

>>21049929
I know that feeling. I forced myself to like reading for the sake of my Japanese.

>> No.21049963

>have you ever taken the kanji KANtei?
Is this the power of MIA?

>> No.21049965

>>21049947
vocaroo dot com
toradora dot jpg

>> No.21049966

>>21049947
I've done a few thousand hours listening. Why make things up?

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21049971

>>21049953
I hate listening though. I would rather just wear these and read a book.

>> No.21049976

>>21049963
After eight years of 100% immersion you'll realise that vowels are completely optional as long as the kougou of your words is clear.

>> No.21049988

If you could switch places with Matt and gain his Japanese ability, you'd book a plane to Tokyo and immediately start chatting up the qts in Shibuya and Ginza, you would.

>> No.21049990

>>21049903
So the latter is only used when you're describing it with an adjective?

>> No.21049993

>>21049988
ginzas all old women lol

>> No.21050012

>>21049988
if i was matt i wouldnt flirt for the same reason matt doesnt flirt the dude has a hard enough time with casual social interaction
and even ur master matt knows that knowing nihongo lowers your chances of hooking up in japan

>> No.21050021

who the fuck cares if Matt read 廣義 as こうごう when he should have read it as こうぎ - when it only happened once?
so what if Matt confused the pitch accent of 箸 for the one of 橋 - something that only happened once, and will likely never happen again?
meanwhile your accent is gaijin as fuck and will sound gayjin as fuck as long as you live

>> No.21050028

>>21050012
Matt's only real irl friend at this point is Yoga, picking up girls is not something he has a right to have a credible opinion about, Tkyosam does know how, however. Still Matt is an expert in learning Japanese to native-level fluency though, complete with pitch accent and ability to read the atmosphere.

>> No.21050037

>>21049988
Women got nothing to offer me why would I

>> No.21050043

>>21049990
それ is a pronoun, which means it replaces a noun or a noun phrase.
>[The fact that your niece is going to Italy to study artisanal olive oil making under tutelage of the Pope] is great!
>[That] is great!
その is an adjective, which means it modifies a noun or noun phrase.
>That man kicked a baby
>That jar of honey was sealed 2000 years ago
>That summer I went sky diving with Freddy Mercury
>That way of running is going to destroy your knees before you reach 40.
Which man/jar/summer/way of running? Not this one, THAT one.

>> No.21050059

>>21050043
I think I get it? My problem is I try to rationalize it with English rather than Japanese.

>> No.21050069

>>21050059
i dont know grammar but id just describe その as sort of the same except its attached to additional information
i want that
i want that pen
that is tall
that person is tall

>> No.21050073

>>21050069
>except its attached to additional information
But is this always the case with no exceptions? If so this makes more sense to me.

>> No.21050077

>>21050059
Just remember that この, その, and あの all have the possessive の. こ - here close to me, の - possessive 's. Here's pen, the pen belonging to things near me.

>> No.21050091

>>21050077
こそあどだよ

どぬけてるとおもう

>> No.21050101

>>21050059
If you kinda get it's time to stop worrying about it because it'll be second nature to you in no time if you actually spend some time with japanese

>> No.21050133

>>21049976
still appreciating this post

>> No.21050143

>>21049988
Yo why do people here still think its a requirement to get a Japanese gf to know Japanese? In fact the guys with the most broken as fuck Japanese get those Jap girls most often. And why? Because those women are out for a different experience. They are not looking for something Japanese or else they would just date a Japanese guy. The last thing they want is some foreigner pretending he's Japanese.

As for the ones who are not looking for something else, they'll never date a fucking foreigner anyways if all they want is a genuine Japanese husband. Know your target audience. If your motivation is to get fucking laid, doing any of this here is the most pointless shit you could possibly do. You'd be better served to spend the same amount of time on /fit/ and then just randomly go to Japan for a few weeks.

>> No.21050177

>>21050143
There are Jap women who are into western guys but don't like that they can't talk with them.

>> No.21050190

>>21049118
u can deflect everything except ur true sugata in the kagami lol

>>21049238
hes there for u 2 dude whenever ur ready

>>21049976
lol

>>21050021
u dont know enough japanese to make a convincing sounding post to argue from that side

>>21050143
u got issues

>> No.21050263

kyou no kotobah wa
髑髏

>> No.21050272

kyous anime wa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWqm6av_MCQ

>> No.21050326

jamalはゲイです

>> No.21050343

はい

>> No.21050370

Okay what's the cringiest "top" koohii story in your opinion

I vote for 労, at over 600 upvotes:
Those jocks who always tried to show their muscles in the schoolhouse are now the ones out there doing manual labor jobs while we sit here and learn Japanese. Ha!

i would never forget the bloody kanji, that's for sure.

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21050375

>>21050370

>> No.21050409

>>21049929
rarepotato said if you don't like reading in your native language you won't like reading in japanese

and he was right. i'm screwed

>> No.21050420

idk who that is but i wouldnt say i like reading i just like reading shit i like and very much dont like reading the shit i dont

>> No.21050430

>>21050409
what are you in it for
>>21050420
better than i would have put it

>> No.21050431

>>21050370
https://kanji.koohii.com/study/kanji/favor

Nuke's story for "favor". It's cringey both in how it gets the stroke order wrong and that it's the most favorited story on the site.

>> No.21050434

>>21050430
the prestige

>> No.21050444

nuke chans aight tho

https://streamable.com/0ql94

>> No.21050449

>>21050431
>2007
>still studying N3 books

>> No.21050450

i dont like creating stories for remembering the kanji. this method is nice, but i feel like i waste too much time creating those... i just memorize the components and thats it

>> No.21050458

sometimes u dont even need a story



it just comes to u

>> No.21050465

>>21050458
I like 嫐る more

>> No.21050468

>>21050450
don't need to create stories. just use koohii's stories, maintain a retention rate of 90%, then slam dunk RTK+anki into the windows recycle bin when you realize how much time you wasted beyond the first 500

>> No.21050475

>>21050465
why thats less penises

>> No.21050484

>>21050370
>睾
>Tip: primitives given in the book are: blood + happiness. But should be: drop + eye (/net) + happiness. Story: As you squeeze the last drop out of your testicles you go cross-eyed with happiness.

Someone didn't understand that computer fonts are different from handwriting

>> No.21050509

>>21050475
does that not make it better

>> No.21050515

>>21050468
nah, i dont waste anytime. Even memorize those koohii stories seems like a waste of time. My retention rate is of about 93-96% and it takes me 10-15min (at most) to keep those on anki.

>> No.21050516

>>21050509
when u self insert as the girl it doesnt

>> No.21050525

>>21050515
you're either a super genius or you're not doing RTK and you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.21050530

>>21050516
when i self insert as the girl shes レズ though

>> No.21050531

>>21050516
unless ur a bi girl

>> No.21050543

>>21050530
thats gross what u want is mad dick

>>21050531
girls cant even do anything w. each other but lick e.o clams or eat ass

>> No.21050551

>>21050543
we have hands and fingers ...? also, pegging

>> No.21050556

boys have hands and fingers and the best finger of all instead of using some silicone or whatever fakedick

>> No.21050560

>>21050449
wtf Nuke's been studying nip since 2007 and he's still a bluepilled /r/lrnjap redditard?

>> No.21050563

>>21050543
u forgot rub clams
the inability to do anything makes it much more passionate dont u think
u have to try way harder and longer

>> No.21050564

>>21050525
Im most certainly not a genius by any definition this word has lol
And yeah, I'm not doing RTK the way heisig intended. I just use the kanji on the front and keyword on the back. Just "reading", never writing them.

>> No.21050565

>>21050560
he wasnt studying japanese but he could get a phd in flashcards lol

>> No.21050569

how pissed is nuke about the mueller report

>> No.21050571

>>21050551
dont think your tranny dick can get hard enough to peg

>> No.21050572

>>21050560
no matt got him hes truly fucked now

>> No.21050574

>>21050563
scissoring actually just looks retarded have u ever seen it ? its like comical how much of a genetic failure scissorers are u almost wanna help them

>> No.21050577

>>21050143
Exactly this >>21050177
Wanting to speak Japanese fluently doesn't automatically mean you want to become Japanese. Matt and Nick fell for that bs "I wanna fit in I want nips to see me as a nip too waaah" while Khatz and Tkyosam decided to get the best of both worlds instead: a gaijin pass and being able to use their fluency when it suits them, i.e. to get better service, preferential treatment, easier permanent residency, etc.

>> No.21050581

>>21050569
oh shit thx 4 the reminder to avoid all mainstream mass media and just play videogames for the next like month at least lmao

>> No.21050585

>>21050564
>Im most certainly not a genius by any definition this word has lol
Obviously.
So you refuse to use your brain's ability to form logical connections, you refuse to take the extra two seconds per character to actually be literate somewhere down the line?
Why are you even """doing""" RTK? Just go stare at the character while learning vocab.

>> No.21050587

>>21050565
>watch Nuke's lets review japanese
>the most inane and asinine flashcard formats ever, timestamped sub2srs + cloze + morphman + pictures
lmao, can't get more autistic than that

>> No.21050588

>>21050571
I'm a cis girl...

>> No.21050590

>>21050577
honestly if u arent a fuckin rockstar or otherwise cool interesting dude being a japanese knower makes u instant second class citizen

never reveal ur power level

>> No.21050591

>>21050569
what is this mueller report?

>> No.21050592

>>21050585
i wouldn't take it this far but if he's just "staring at the characters" then doing lazy kanji or w/e the fuck he's doing is utterly pointless and he should just be doing core and reading more

>> No.21050596

>>21050574
in 3d its embarrassing but a good hentie dojun can make anything work plus no regrets until 賢者モード

>> No.21050604

>>21050585
Why did you get so angry? wtf lol
I think its obvious, but somehow you are still wondering. I do "RTK" because it makes much easier to memorize new vocabs. Isnt it the reason why everyone uses it?
And what are those 2 extra seconds per character you are talking about? writing? its not worth for me. If you like, please feel free to keep writing them. It must feel nice being able to write them for memory. I mean it. I just dont feel like doing it

>> No.21050608

>>21050572
I don't know how Matt is fine with Nuke and not the Jalup guy when they both sell premade decks, at least Jalup gets you to become monolingual eventually, Nuke just helps you become able to read Genki and NHK News Easy without furigana, at best.
Also how the fuck Nuke is a mod on Matt's Discord, Nuke been at it for 12 years and hasn't changed his muh Genki bluepill bs studying methods at all, which is the polar opposite of MIA/mAttJATT

>> No.21050610

>>21050596
well if its a henty dojy then theres much better shit to enjoy than 2 cunts black bars over them smashed together lookin like head on collision on the wangan lmao

>> No.21050620

>>21050564
>I just use the kanji on the front and keyword on the back. Just "reading", never writing them.
That's Lazy Kanji, you're not the first genius to figure that out, Khatz started peddling that in 2009 and Matt made it a core part of Casual MattJatt (aka the MIA Balanced Approach) in 2018.

>> No.21050630

>>21050610
i just aint a huge cock lover u know but i respect other tastes

>> No.21050632

>>21050604
Except you're not doing RTK, or anything like it. Doing RTK means using mnemonics to anchor components to a keyword. The mnemonic will introduce a logical reason for the character to be the way it is, making it stick easier, and you will almost automatically be able to write it.
You're just cramming radicals. How many are you able to do a day?

>> No.21050638

>>21050630
im just sayin when it comes to cock the more the merrier

i mean its just basic math when u add more cocks the fun multiplier increases

what do more vagines do ? nothin

>> No.21050641

>>21050620

I used to think this is what people call lazy kanji. But a couple of weeks ago, an anon proved me wrong linking me to a khatz post where he was teaching this lazy kanji method, and it basically consisted of keyword on the front and kanji on the back, but passing as good even if you got a couple of things wrong. Which, for me, it seems like quit a shit method, but whatever, right

>> No.21050645

i mean think about it u cant put ur dick in2 2 vagines but u can put 2 cocks in a vagine

its just simple fuckin math

>> No.21050659

>>21050645
i get what ur sayin but too many vagine makes my dick harder than too many dick i cant do nothin about that

>> No.21050660

>>21050632
Yep. Perhaps I should be more clear about it. I just use Rtk keywords and kanji components names. Also the Rtk list which is in a very well structured order. Is it better now?

About how many a day, I used to add 30 daily. Now I just do the reviews, which is around 150 daily, while also adding kanjis not on Rtk using the previous components

>> No.21050663

everytime i do my rtk reviews and see nukemarine mentioned in 2007 I laugh my ass off

sorry nuke

>> No.21050671

>>21050659
what if the vagine was urs ? think about it as ur anus quivers at the thought of being the girl in a bukkake porno

>> No.21050680

>>21050663
I deserve it.

>> No.21050684

>>21050484
the books are about learning handwritten kanji from memory yet the book constantly provides the printed font primitives

really makes one think

>> No.21050688

>>21050663
try to focus on your own studies and not on whatever another person is/was doing. It might improve your skills, just saying

>> No.21050690

when i do rtk a second time i'll treat 言 as "microphone" since it's easier to visualize than "words" or whatever my mnemonic was. thanks nuke.

>> No.21050692

>>21050680
so stop deserving it and become a rippana nihongo guy

u can start by watching this >>21050272

u can even read the light novella too

>> No.21050705

まずこれ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbp7HlmIQbg

>> No.21050706

>>21050671
u dont even need to be a girl to have 3 or 4 dicks in u but maybe u do for 5 or 6
i havent thought about self inserting covered in tinpo miruku ill have to think over it
i respect it and read some of the dojos here and there but ur undersellin some uses of vagine

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21050709

>>21050684
>>21050484
theres two different ways of writing this. realistically all the printed forms can be handwritten in that way and people do write them like that irl. even characters like 令 are written by 30% of japanese the printed way (according to MEXT sample surveys)

>> No.21050721

>>21050680
no you don't, not really

especially when i use your stories so often

but i can't help it, sorry




the best thing about koohii stories is that half of them are about the iraq war and george w. bush etc.

so last decade so natsukashii...

>> No.21050723

>>21050690
I imagined that primitive as a scroll with words.

>> No.21050727

>>21050709
that's not blood tho

so the koohii story is right

learning both ways is asinine, and learning the printed way, the less common way is asinine

>> No.21050728

>>21050706
ive seen some shit with ears and eyesockets dude u wouldnt believe

also jizz is the magic juice

also ill give u the floor to sell us on why u think cavernous bologna sandwiches are the truth cuz im interested for ur take

>> No.21050731

>>21049320
but whats dolly's full name?

>> No.21050734

>>21050731
pedro pendejo

>> No.21050736
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21050736

>>21050727
it's not really clear which way is the most common way to write rare characters though. most people arent going to know which one of these is actually correct because dictionaries usually have the non-blood one. presumably blood is actually correct though.

>> No.21050743

>>21050731
Chang

>> No.21050751

>>21050731
Cure Dolly

>> No.21050759

>>21050736
why is MEXT so worthless and can't standardise this shit

>> No.21050762

cuz its not a big deal unless ur a fuckin gaijin shitter

>> No.21050764

>>21050028
>Matt is an expert in learning Japanese to native-level fluency though
How is he an expert? It took him at least 5 years given the information we have, probably more that he's not owning up to. Does doing something once make you an expert? If he used his methods to learn another language in the amount of time he's claiming then I'd consider calling him an expert, right now he's just someone who Made It and thinks he knows what's best now, actively shitting on more acclaimed research like Krashen and Asher.

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21050771

>>21050709
It is just as stupid as writing 'a' and 'g' in printed form

>> No.21050773

>>21050764
who gives a shit if it took him 5 years to become the best gaijin there ever was? you won't accomplish what he has in 20 years you pathetic little shit.

>> No.21050774

>>21050764
sorry u definitely cant call this dude an expert LOL https://streamable.com/gvk0o

>> No.21050788

>>21050773
>Who cares if it took him 5 years?
You should since he lies and claims you can do it in 1 year doing what he did.
>Best gaijin
It's not hard being better than people like Nuke, most of the people Matt's level also learned Japanese modesty and aren't leeching off people's money for "Talking With Me Rights".

>> No.21050795

>>21050788
>and claims you can do it in 1 year doing what he did.
no he doesn't. the fuck? he says it takes 3 years minimum to get fluent.
>most of the people Matt's level
only person like that is dogen and that's just in terms of pitch accent. matt is on a whole other level when it comes to foreigners who learned japanese as adults while living outside japan.

>> No.21050802

>>21050795
matt is still a child and definitely started coming into contact with japanese as a child so if ur gonna write ur thinly veiled fake praise posts at least get ur shit right retardo

>> No.21050803

>>21050788
>You should since he lies and claims you can do it in 1 year doing what he did.
Matt claims it will take 5 years to master a language to the level that he has based on his most autistic method (Perfectionist Approach).
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/
>With the exception of Stage 5, which has no tangible end, each stage is estimated to take the majority of people between 6 months and 1 year to complete.
The same amount of time it took him personally.

>> No.21050807

>>21050771
it's obviously not lol. you're retarded if you think so. the distinction between those two is entirely arbitrary. many many japanese people wouldn't be able to tell you which was the printed and which was handwritten of some characters (MEXT has done surveys on this too)

>> No.21050808

>>21050802
when i say adult i just mean beyond the critical period. he is a master.

>> No.21050812

>>21050802
Matt tried AJATT for the first time in late 2010, when he was 15. He declared July 23, 2011 as the official start of his AJATT journey, at age 16.
So he wasn't a child when he started, since the EZPZ Language Learning Child Magic ends at age 12.

>> No.21050820

>>21050812
oh i didnt realize u had to do ajatt in the critical period too LOL

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>>21050728
when ur bringin in eyesockets and ears theres really no limit
ur already halfway there when ur self inserting with a nikutubo to fill with magic juice instead of the holes ur blessed enough to have already
i prob cant sell u on it the same way u cant sell me on pic related
u just have to feel that desire

>> No.21050835

tho i will agree he never came into contact with japanese in the "ezpz" period cuz hes still so suckass u can tell he looks at japanese and converts it all to english in his mind thats why he fucks up so much on the actual japanese part of it but is able to convert general abstract meaning to english fine cuz he did rtgay or w/e LOL

>> No.21050844

Daily Matt Thread

>> No.21050859

i literally only come here to discuss matt and other japanese learning e-celebs

coming here to actually learn something is absolutely worthless, but it's a great place to gossip

>> No.21050860
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21050860

we post about him so much but he doesn't give two shits about 4chan. makes you think

>> No.21050866

>>21050827
i mean i guess i can understand multiple vaginas if ur workin a few girls like finger puppets but like look theres no parades with vagina floats

they proudly roll down the streets with giant dick floats

theres a good reason for this

>> No.21050870

why are you reading 4chan and not that book you started?

>> No.21050871

>>21050774
>fall
>I suck at seasons
>what's haru in english?

>> No.21050873

he cares a lot about his haters etc. which is just a facet of his autistic mentality

why do you think he started meditating

but i'm not a hater i'm a fan

>> No.21050880

desu i make that mistake all the time

not in my mind, but in vocalising the proper word

but i'm an ESL and a japanese beginner

whatever, i don't judge a nigga when he livestreams shit

>> No.21050884

>>21050860
the funny thing about this 1 is u didnt even use the right word *grammatically* in ur retard meme image LOL

>>21050871
thats just the surface level lol the true lol came well before that part

>> No.21050889

>>21050884
>the true lol came well before that part
When he says that it's a trick question?

>> No.21050890

>>21050560
you can’t really blame him desu, the dude is quite old

>> No.21050894

>>21050889
ill help u out

pretend the question is a wheres waldo puzzle and きせつ is waldo

>> No.21050898

>>21050866
u gotta get everybody involved maybe thats ur disconnect u gotta be the center
disembodied vaginas look fuckin stupid thats why u need the whole picture to appreciate but by contrast dicks look better alone

>> No.21050901

>>21050894
lmfao

>> No.21050909

tho

desu

>> No.21050911

https://streamable.com/l6h0h

>> No.21050913

i don't give two shits about 4chan either desu

>> No.21050914

>>21050884
but it's not my image dude why the hell would you insult me for it? not cool

>> No.21050926

>>21050820
Matt started AJATT 3 years after the Critical Period, you low IQ Genkitard

>> No.21050934

>>21050859
>coming here to actually learn something
Got you bro, here's the only link you need
https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-0/perfectionist-path-overview/
Do it from beginning to end

>> No.21050941

>>21050914
sorry ur guilty by association

>>21050926
? why did u @ me

>> No.21050945

i just ate some of my mom's brownies and i shouldn't have because my stomach is feeling a tad bit weird to the point i got distracted from what i'm reading to post this.

>> No.21050947

>>21050812
Learning a language in your teens is still significantly easier than learning it after ~25

>> No.21050955

>>21050934
already did

am fluent

>> No.21050957

How to learn Japanese
https://youtu.be/XcSPFZ1tGJE?t=1316

>> No.21050962

>>21050945
congrats u ate ur moms fentanyl brownies and ur going to die lol

>> No.21050966

>>21050947
>is still significantly easier than learning it after ~25
lol no that's just on average because some people hit puberty later than others. but you can tell matt was a full blown man when he was 16 if you check out his old vlogs.

>> No.21050975

>>21050966
lmfoa

>> No.21050981
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21050981

time to dig out the classic look at these chompers

>> No.21050994

>>21050957
can u believe the anon who didnt want to read kanji was just maintaining his uncrippled accent

>> No.21051010
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21051010

Reminder that music is the surest way to improve your listening comprehension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf4U3sIggdk

>> No.21051012

>>21049499
お姫様よりも君の方が好き
それに、それなりに「好き」ですから覚えておきなさいよ
君だって好きじゃなくて、君だから好きなんですよ

>> No.21051018

>>21050957
How about actually studying instead of listening to some basement fucker talk shite?

>> No.21051019

reminder u will never be good enough to critically think on ur own

https://streamable.com/jqr1d

>> No.21051023

>>21051019
wtf is this

not djt eceleb can't watch

fuck off

>> No.21051052

I already went through 3 study sections and you guys are still talking about matt, about shit, and not studying. Can it get more dekinai than this?

>> No.21051055

it did as soon as u pressed the post button

>> No.21051056

>>21051052
>3 study sections
Might as well slit your wrist. Studying with Genki is literally self-harm.

>> No.21051063

>>21051019
*Premature Reading Warning*
*Only Watch If You Have Confirmed 1,095 Hours of Active Listening*

>> No.21051064

>>21051056
Genki? Thanks, but not thanks.

>> No.21051073

>>21051063
sometimes u gotta put em in deeper end (this isnt even that deep its high schooler tier shit)

>> No.21051077

>>21051052
if u didnt learn kisetu and tosyabutu from following along its ur own fault

>> No.21051092

>>21051052
>3 study sections
haha

>> No.21051098

>>21051019
i can read some of the sentences in this but can't understand them when narrated. am i not gonna make it?

>> No.21051100

>>21051077
lol

>>21051092
can you explain why is it funny?
Whats wrong with study sections? I don't believe people are productive for long terms (at least I can say for sure that I am not).
So I divide it in study sections of 20~25 minutes.
Would you mind telling me why it is funny?

>> No.21051104

>>21051098
she talks like shit but pretty fuckin normally

>> No.21051135

>>21051098
you just need more listening practice

>> No.21051171

>>21051098
From
March 25, 2019 to March 25, 2020
Watch anime all day everyday, convert it to audio and put it on your mp3 player if you have to leave the house/do something else
From
March 26, 2020 onwards
That's when you start reading

>> No.21051178

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6rXueq8N4

>> No.21051200
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21051200

やれ。

>> No.21051203

なにを

>> No.21051211
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>>21051203
妹を。

>> No.21051228

だからなにをするかわからん

>> No.21051230
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21051230

妹をやれよ

>> No.21051256

やれってなにを

>> No.21051257

If you lrn2read before you lrn2listen
Instead of your brain using pure sound (that sounds completely Japanese) to understand
Your brain uses words in your head (that have been tinged with English sounding Japanese) to understand instead
https://youtu.be/HXzrkX3apOk?t=4883

>> No.21051266

they didnt listen to me when i told them about perma crippling their brain

maybe if nothing else matty boy can be the poster child for that

>> No.21051272

this is probably a retarded question but how tf am I supposed to make sentence cards if I’m not supposed to read in the beginning

>> No.21051277

im gonna beat ur butt

>> No.21051281

imagine "reading" something that isnt voiced
esp if u havent watched ur eng subbed anime

>> No.21051293

literal insanity lol

this is literally those ppl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOP4Z3H4K24#t=118

>> No.21051297

熊が森を行っていった。燃える車を見た。彼はそれに乗って燃えた。

>> No.21051304

>>21051297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUz9xCTOPRw&

>> No.21051331

>>21051272
>if I’m not supposed to read in the beginning
not falling for this crap would be one solution

>> No.21051345

What is the worst thing about the Japanese language?

>> No.21051347

>>21051272
It's easy, you just jot down the things you heard in international phonetic alphabet notation.

>> No.21051350

>>21051345
The people learning it.

>> No.21051354

>>21051257
Wrong. Reading is the best way to acquire vocabulary (see, e.g. "Reading and Vocabulary Acquisition: Supporting Evidence and Some Objections," S. Krashen) and once you have a large vocabulary it becomes much easier to acquire the correct pronunciation by listening while reading along with transcripts of comprehensible material.

There, now you have two plausible-sounding theories that directly contradict each other, both with the same amount of empirical evidence which is to say none at all.

>> No.21051357
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21051357

Look at this cool new Chinese word I found
激烈

>> No.21051370
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21051370

>read first, then practice listening
>listen first, then practice reading
Dumb. Why not both? Fast vocab and better phonetics. Easy.

>> No.21051385

Is Japanese pronunciation really that different for native English speakers? (I'm native German, it's basically the same as German in most aspects)

>> No.21051389

Listening first is unnecessary if you already watched anime for a couple of years.

>> No.21051398

基礎練
きそねり? きそれん?

>> No.21051399

>>21051389
huh breathing is unnecessary if ur oxygen/co2 levels are properly regulated in the blood

>> No.21051401

>>21051385
I think it's very hard for English speakers.
English speakers also tend to have a very strong accent when they speak German, I'm sure you've heard that.
German natives probably have it the easiest learning Japanese pronunciation.

>> No.21051406

>>21051399
I don't get it.

>> No.21051412
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21051412

Can I use this?

>> No.21051422

>>21051412
casually, if you're among friends. And ofc you have to be a guy.

>> No.21051429

>>21051401
I mostly hear german accents with english, but if I just look at the ways English natives pronounce German loanwords ...
English is more ... "flowy" with pronunciation and German and Japanese tend to seperate their syllables more. I'm not a linguist so I don't know any terms for that kind of thing.

>> No.21051433

>>21051385
Kind of, but not really. The default vowels are a little different, and some people (like Matt) overcompensate when trying to use the Japanese vowels. Also, pitch accent is a bit different from stress accent, but only because it's not responsible for changing the qualities and lengths of vowels very much. Long vowels also actually exist. Aside from that, there's nothing difficult about Japanese phonetics at all.

>> No.21051438

>>21051429
Sounds about right.
We're lucky, I guess.

>> No.21051444

>>21051354
heh ez point win

>> No.21051455

>>21051433
>and some people (like Matt) overcompensate when trying to use the Japanese vowels
Exact example of this btw.
https://streamable.com/erhnw

>> No.21051509

>>21051455
Wait, I thought he was doing this for emphasis so that people can understand him better???

>> No.21051521

>>21051455
lmfao whys matt talking in katakana lol

>> No.21051531

>>21051455
Now snip one where he actually makes a mistake in the answer.

>> No.21051565

>>21051531
read the thread

>> No.21051582

>>21051565
No one posted any mistakes apart from him momentarily confusing fall with spring.

>> No.21051585

matt is so based and redpilled

i want to have gay children with him

>> No.21051594

if i could get him anally pregnant id let him have the baby but i would raise it

>> No.21051607

it's mpreg, not anally pregnant

>> No.21051620

im uh gonna stick with ass baby

>> No.21051629

>>21051582
there was a discussion about it and everything

>> No.21051637

dudes got stockholm syndrome for a fuckin baby ass neckbeard faggot

>> No.21051642

>>21051620
u should appreciate mpreg because it looks like mpeg now thats a real blast to the past

>> No.21051649

>>21051642
mpreg sounds too official like ur about that life tho

>> No.21051651

>>21051620
ur not gonna find any fanfics with the tag "ass baby". Try for mpreg instead to fuel your fantasies.

>> No.21051653

ill write the new fantasy

*kicks old lady in head on a subway*

worldstar that my ninjas

>> No.21051656

>>21051629
I'm not gonna read all your gay-ass posts but the most discussion I see from ctrl+f is this guy >>21050894 failing to understand that Matt was talking about the question not mentioning 春. It assumes that you know that snow melts from the mountains in fall (spring). Perhaps a silly complaint but the fact that it uses the word きせつ is irrelevant to both the correct answer and Matt's complaint

>> No.21051662

>>21051649
if ur gonna commit ur ass to that even just once u gotta make sure its done right

>> No.21051664

>>21051656
newsflash there was no question at any point

show me a question in that clip

>> No.21051673

>>21051662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KonlrTyevVo&t=331s

>> No.21051684

>>21051664
How can there be an answer if there was no question?

>> No.21051691

>>21051684
fill in the blank

わたしは__

>> No.21051701

>>21051691
あなたのおホモだちです

>> No.21051711

>>21051691
>>21051701
get yourselves a room

>> No.21051713

>e-celeb posting

>> No.21051718

>>21051701
まあそりゃそうだけどさ

>>21051711
u can come to the bukkake party 2 if u want

>> No.21051727

>>21051691
わたしは足利義満

>> No.21051746

>>21051727
はじめまして足利義満さん

わたしはhttps://soundcloud.com/nichibeihiphop/mouri-motonari#t=0:12

>> No.21051749

>>21051656
cry more

>> No.21051774

Man I wish English had such cools concepts as 即答. Really makes you appreciate Japanese.

>> No.21051803

my mom's friend hasn't left so i can't go downstairs and heat up some pizza snacks. have to keep reading instead

>> No.21051815

why not just get ur own mini fridge/freezer and microwave for ur room

>> No.21051816

>>21051774
How does english not have that concept?

>> No.21051826

>>21051816
It's just more "Matt is an idiot" memes, I'm sure you get the kougou.

>> No.21051837

>>21051815
don't have a job

>> No.21051844

>>21051826
matt is a 工具 lol

>>21051837
well dang aint u sick of livin this way

>> No.21051846

>>21051774
yea i'm not sure if he literally means the concept of "answering without thinking" doesn't exist in english (it obviously does) or if he's merely referring to the pithy-ness of the word in japanese that makes it easier to laugh about.

>> No.21051850
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21051850

why is this word so rare?

>> No.21051854

>>21051803
iktf

>> No.21051861

>>21051850
idk dude kogu dogu whats the difference really

>> No.21051865

>>21050859
>it's a great place to gossip
get a life lol you sound like a woman

>> No.21051870

im officially opening recruit for my djt harem

if ur a girl feel free 2 apply if ur a cute boy u may also apply looking forward 2 hearing from u all yoroshiku lol

>> No.21051873

>>21051865
this is my life

>> No.21051881

>>21051870
Girl, am applying.

>> No.21051884

>>21051870
im not cute but i can pretend to be a girl (:

>> No.21051885

>>21050873
>why do you think he started meditating
ironically people who willingly waste their time gossiping about people they've never met need to meditate more than anyone else lol talk about an undisciplined mind and inferiority complex

>> No.21051889

how do 尻 (しり・コウ) and 尾(お・ビ) make 尻尾(しっぽ)

>> No.21051893

>>21051885
here comes the meditation pseudobabble squad

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>>21051826
Oh, I see. Sorry, been away for a while now. I see Jamal is still tanking the signal noise ratio.
Honestly this MIA method isn't that bad, all things considered. The passive learning bullshit is acceptable overhead if it also gets a person to read more.

>> No.21051898

>>21049771
Holy shit, how do you not know this?

>> No.21051901

>>21051398
れん

>> No.21051905

>>21051897
theres only signal noise because u havent set ur tuner to the right frequency : )

>> No.21051908

btw i realized u younguns dont know how radio waves or "dempa" work lol so maybe that metaphor was 2 dated for all u spotify internet radio fags

>> No.21051909

>>21051897
>The passive learning bullshit is acceptable overhead if it also gets a person to read more.
why would it do that

>> No.21051924

>>21051893
your mind keeps making sounds about other people who you can't help but obsessively discuss, that's not pseudobabble that's an accurate description of your experience lol

>> No.21051928

>>21051901
Thanks anon.

>> No.21051932

>>21051924
my mind doesn't make sounds, i'm not schizophrenic lol

>> No.21051935

>>21051924
not everyone is past or present (you)

>> No.21051938

I'm going to learn Chinese first for 2 or 3 years, so pitch accent will easy peasy nativeasy when I get around to Japanese after that.

>> No.21051941

but chinese doesn't have pitch accents

>> No.21051943

>>21051905
You could help me do that by using a trip or at least a name.

>>21051909
If you're committed to immersion then you're also reading in only that language... all your books, vidya, news, forums, etc. I mean the guy in those videos even has manga wallpapering his room. Right? Or did I miss something?

>> No.21051945

all i ever wanted was one sunday karbin blog post why oh why did he have to die again

>> No.21051950

>>21051943
turns out the signal noise comes from within for u

>> No.21051952

>>21051932
if your brain generates thoughts at all (which it must in order for you to type them out on a web forum) then that's literally making sounds lol. you must seriously lack self-awareness if you think only schizophrenics have thoughts.

>> No.21051955

>>21051952
moving goal posts again huh?

first it's "making sounds" then it's "having thoughts"

hmmm yikes

>> No.21051956

>>21051950
Get a trip or a name so I can tell my extension to highlight your posts. That way, I can find and read your contributions more quickly.

>> No.21051957

>>21051897
Matt literally encourages reading LESS, not MORE.

>> No.21051959

>>21051956
i tried that for a while not much changed

>> No.21051966

>>21051955
lol what... words aren't sounds?

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>>21051959
It won't change anything for you. It helps everyone else find your posts easier.

>> No.21051974

>>21051967
no i mean i still chatted w. ppl just the same they definitely didnt ignore my posts by means of "filtering" and the thread just sucked like it mostly always does

>> No.21051978

>>21051966
i'm afraid you have a mental illness if you can't distinguish between abstract concepts and physically occurring phenomena

>> No.21051985

>>21051952
>>21051966
not everyone has an internal monologue

>> No.21051986

>>21051945
is he still posting on matt's discord? maybe he wants his fans to have to become matt patreons

>> No.21051991

why doesnt xiaovin make his own disscord

id actualyl join it and talk to him and get his mind right

>> No.21051998

he could ask the internet to run his life for him
i remember someone doin that over a decade ago when youtube was fresh

>> No.21052001

>>21051998
fuck micromanaging that nigga

>> No.21052003

>>21051978
>lol, i don't. the brain processes internal sounds the same as external ones. they activate the same neural networks and appear the same way in consciousness. that's also why you can have dialogues in your dreams.

sheesh, look at the lengths you went to avoid acknowledging the fact that you think about ecelebs uncontrollably.

>> No.21052006

>>21052003
get well soon my mentally ill friend

>> No.21052009

>>21051974
I don't care what others do. If it doesn't hurt the thread you may as well do it.
>the thread just sucked like it mostly always does
Why do you spend time in a place you don't like?

>>21051957
I mean, from that site:
>I did literally everything in my life in Japanese: my computer and phone were set to Japanese, I constantly kept headphones in and listened to Japanese podcasts all day, I watched copious amounts of raw anime, J-drama, and J-movies, and read heaps of manga and Japanese novels.

>> No.21052012

>>21052009
just cuz it sux doesnt mean i dont like it i still find shit to lol at daily

>> No.21052013

>>21052001
it wouldnt really work anyway cuz he cant commit to anything

>> No.21052022

>>21052009
theres a timestamp in a video somewhere of him sayin that when he "read" he just looked for words he didnt know and he didnt look them up he just put them in a list to make anki cards out of later cuz he didnt care about reading he just wanted to keep the sick anki stats goin
but what other anon is sayin is that matt currently pushes the idea that if you read early youll permanently cripple your accent so you gotta go audio only for a year

>> No.21052032

>>21052006
lol you'll say anything to avoid becoming aware of your own maladaptive patterns huh? lying to yourself ultimately hurts you the most. remember, only insecure people gossip. have a nice day.

>> No.21052037

well time to finally get acquainted with subs2srs and morphman

luckily based britvsjapan and mattvsjapan wrote guides for each respectively

i sure do admire their dedication to helping fellow japanese learners :)

>> No.21052039

>>21052032
are you saying all women are insecure?

ruh roh sounds like chauvinist talk to me!

>> No.21052043

>>21052037
Use Matt's "audio only on front, English word on the back" cutting edge technique, too ;)

>> No.21052047

>>21052043
uhhh and i why would i want that?

i almost finished rtk1 and finished core2k

in fact it's about time for the monolingual transition but my meditation sessions are too short for that :)

>> No.21052056

i like girls if they like me but im not gonna be the one to like them first

>> No.21052062

>>21052043
have you not heard of the monolingual audio transition
audio i+1 sentence on front
audio word on back followed by audio tts of a dictionary entry on that word

>> No.21052066

my mom found out i was going through the monolingual transition and now she says i cant watch matt's youtube anymore wtf am i supposed to do guys i cried myself to sleep last night

>> No.21052071

>>21052039
>are you saying all women are insecure?
not all women gossip, but many of them do and yes, the ones who do are insecure. men are often very insecure as well, and that's the very thing driving most of their disturbing internet behavior.

>> No.21052079

>>21052066
>i'm not supposed to output yet but dame dame zettai dame okaasan

>> No.21052086

>>21052037
>>21052043
>>21052062
if any of you are actually serious about upping your listening skill, just do transcription. listen to anime raw or audio-only, type what you hear, and check with the j-subs. for words you don't know, you can just transcribe the pronunciation you hear in hiragana. do this every day for a different section of the audio and you'll get really good pretty fast.

>> No.21052120

>>21052022
Is no one bothered by the fact that it's not just that Matt's advice would be about what he did to learn Japanese, but what he now assumed would be good to learn Japanese, but never did himself and in fact doesnt know anyone in the world who actually implemented his ideas and learned Japanese?

This is what ultimately threw me off completely. I get what he did to learn Japanese. Do a shit ton of stuff in Japanese and be obsessed with Anki. That's as far as I would trust his advice on anything.

>> No.21052125

Imagine wasting your time with something as pointless as pitch accent.

>> No.21052132

sikamo anki LOL

>> No.21052136

>>21052120
just like khatz before him he realized he couldn't sell what he actually did so he's making up a bunch of shit to pile on top of it. for khatz it was MCDs and silver spoon, for matt it's "optimizations"

>> No.21052140

or u can just take the non bullshit free approach and just watch 10k hours of eng subbed anime and become capable to do the rest urself

>> No.21052186

>>21051898
i feel bad for not knowing tsukihime but i've never heard of the other ones.

>> No.21052191

>>21052186
You've never heard of Sakura Taisen and KGNE? You don't know what a Dreamcast is?

>> No.21052199

>>21052140
how would that help at all

>> No.21052207

>>21052199
if ur one of the chosen elites it will work out like this guy >>21052191

but guys like this ? >>21052186 theyll never make it

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I'm gonna make it, lads.

>> No.21052235

>>21052231
What are you doing? Sentence cards, RTK?

>> No.21052238

>>21052231
behold flashtards

>> No.21052257

>>21052231
実に不快だ

>> No.21052260

>>21052231
How many new cards are you adding every day? Are you happy?

>> No.21052279

I still get tripped up on what kureru and morau means based on who's talking about who and what after hundreds of hours of input.

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>>21052231
lol

>> No.21052290

>>21052279
why cant u just feel it yet ?

>> No.21052294

>>21052279
Read your Rubins.

>> No.21052298

can't wait to post my review count. it'll get a few (you)'s

>> No.21052305

>>21052298
don't forget to post review time so we could judge you mercilessly

>> No.21052306

>>21052298
ive already got u beat im sure

>> No.21052311

i thought anki was a meme we use to troll redditor newfags

no one actually uses that piece of junk, right?

>> No.21052316

>>21052305
>>21052306
it's the opposite of what you're expecting

>> No.21052328

Inadequate stories

The stories presented are too sexualized and sexist. You can't have a kanji for gates (#1616) without someone naming it lesbians and making them do nothing but be a fetiche. Also, many stories don't consider diversity and rely on old cultural standards to create a story, only reinforcing a system of opression. You might think this kind of problematization doesn't belong here, but I still can't shake off the image of two lesbians moaning and a guy trying to get to them (#1623). This is awful. Even if it achieves the goal of the book, this type of content shouldn't be allowed in the community.
Furthermore, as someone else in the comments has pointed out, even though RTK is mainly read by adults, children have to be able to read a study book like this and be kept away from sexual content.

Time to rethink the goals of this community and what can be allowed in here.

>> No.21052333

Unpleasant to read through and full of mistakes

This deck has too many sexual references to the stories. The stories add very little to the reading of even a PDF version of Heisig's RTK, and this deck arrangement of RTK show a lack of clue as it relates to Heisig's subtle arrangement of material. Too much self-congratulatory time is spent criticizing the originator of this Kanji mnemonic system when it is actually the deck creators that misinterprets the keys and primitives as in the keys for Flesh, Dr., and Decameron.

I guess the deck's creators didn't factor in that I would sit down with
my daughter to go through the deck. So academically primitive.Great for mysoginist teen-agers.

>> No.21052385

>>21052328
picked the fuck up

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>>21052282
>no mature reviews
Fooling nobody kiddo.

>>21052282

>> No.21052399

>>21052389
i started learning japanese 35 days ago and had 7 mature reviews already, you just can't see them in that resolution :)

>> No.21052408

>>21052333
>>21052328
why do these fags even start learning japanese? does this language attract trannies or something

>> No.21052420

>>21052125
RTK3, pitch accent, and atmosphere reading are only if you really want to be as good at Japanese as a Japanese guy is.

>> No.21052427

>>21052328
Lol, I remember seeing that review. I was using Adam from JALUP's RTK deck but I got that deck too just for the stories lmao.

>> No.21052430

>>21052125
imagine coping this bad because you're too lazy to do something

>> No.21052435

pitch accent more like bitch accent lol

>> No.21052449

>>21052009
>and read heaps of manga and Japanese novels.
This is a straight-up lie.

>> No.21052457

>>21052449
half of 50 novels is 25 novels dude. give credit where credit is due. and that's JUST full-fledged novels. he read plenty of other content.

>> No.21052464

>download music off nyaa
>title, tags and all in romaji
I hate this!

>> No.21052475

>>21052464
well maybe u should download ur music somewhere better lol fuckin noobshit

>> No.21052482

how about downloading a life nerds

>> No.21052489

>>21052457
reading 25 novels worth of novels over the course of 8 years is the opposite of "heaps" of novels
that's less than the compulsory reading in elementary and middle school made me read

>> No.21052490

>>21052464
get musicbrainz picard to analyze and change the title of your music

>> No.21052494

>>21052475
I don't have time to get into your 1337 sell your sister and two kidneys and 1億 ratio required for access private trackers!

>> No.21052495

>>21052482
well sure why not itll go well with my downloaded car

>> No.21052499

>>21052489
>reading 25 novels worth of novels over the course of 8 years
over the course of 3 years. afterwards he went into maintenance and pitch accent mode. don't be disingenuous.

>> No.21052500

Cant wait for the cringefest when m*tt posts videos of him speaking Japanese with a native speaker. He sounded so akward and extremely gaijin in those last few videos he posted

>> No.21052506

>>21052499
ok, 5 years then :)
you can't just discount the time when you were sitting around in your room listening to anime when you count how long it took you to not finish 50 books

>> No.21052509

>>21052500
that's because he didn't listen to japanese for a year straight without even looking at a single kanji.
because that's how you mess up your accent.

>> No.21052516

How much does a LN count as a book? Like, half a novel?

>> No.21052520

>>21052516
An LN is literally just a normal novel. Unless you're reading, like, literally GJ-Bu, which is simple short stories interspersed CONSTANTLY with illustrations, like an adult picture book.

>> No.21052521

>>21052506
there is a time where he tried to improve his comprehension and there was a time where he didn't. what sense does it make to mention the 5 years he didn't? if you do that you render a comparison between him and other learners meaningless.

>> No.21052525

>>21052509
should have listened to khatz

>> No.21052533

>>21052521
you mean the three years he didn't.
he didn't exclusively read over a 3 year period. not even he has said that. stop deluding yourself.

>> No.21052537

Imagine not being a German native speaker who has perfect Japanese pronunciation, before even starting to learn it.

>> No.21052538

>>21052490
Oh didn't know that's a thing, that's cool. Is it actually able to identify and tag most Japanese music correctly?

>> No.21052542

>>21052537
I pity all non-German-natives.

>> No.21052546

>>21052533
yea he did. he said he read and listened constantly over those 3 years, mining every word he didn't know in novels that he read. then he went into maintenance mode.

>> No.21052548

>>21052546
Reading more during one period of time does not mean that you did not read at all during other periods of time.

>> No.21052549

>>21052537
why does it seem like every other language in the world claims this and yet none of you can back it up whereas english speakers at least have dogen?

>> No.21052551

just a tip for beginners:
do not try this one

https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/%E5%B7%9D%E5%8E%9F%E7%A4%AB_%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89/%E5%B7%9D%E5%8E%9F%E7%A4%AB_%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8901/index.html

>> No.21052554

>>21052464
retyping the japanese yourself would be good practice

>> No.21052556

imagine being a grown ass woman who has raised some kids and then talking to some kid with the alias "mattvsjapan" on the internet just to check out his nihongo level and being so disgusted and annoyed u just immediately x out of that shit and go bake cookies or w.e lmao

>> No.21052558

>>21052551
>furigana
i shake with rage whenever i see it

>> No.21052561

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCMrriHfXiI

matt should interview this guy in japanese

>> No.21052569

>>21052549
it's usually spanish and german
>dogen
it's about pronounciation of the syllables, not the pitch accent of specific words
germans don't get pitch accent for free

>> No.21052574

>>21052558
Why?

>> No.21052576

If you used the energy you're wasting spewing unwarranted hate on Matt, and followed his advice blindly instead, you'd be all up in all the eroge you could ever want after 2 years (first year - listening only, second year - when you start reading).

>> No.21052577

>>21052569
>it's about pronounciation of the syllables, not the pitch accent of specific words
you do realize dogen teaches more than pitch accent right

>> No.21052579

>>21052561
hed never interview someone with both nihongo ability and self esteem

hed get busted on his shit too quickly

>> No.21052582

If your language is one of the following: Spanish, Greek, Georgian, Serbo-Croatian, and Esperanto (impossible for it to be your native language), then congrats—you can easily master Japanese pronunciation. All of these languages have exactly five vowel sounds, just like Japanese.

>> No.21052583

>>21052577
This, Dogen teaches:
Part I: Intro to Phonetics (1-4)
Part II: Pitch Accent (5-32)
Part III: Consonants
Part IV: Vowels
Part V: Other Aspects of Pronunciation

>> No.21052588

>>21051455
holy shit

>> No.21052600

So, I'm already finishing my studies for today (while people laughed when I said I was on my forth study section 3 to 4 hours ago) and you guys are still on Matt? Interesting.

>> No.21052603

they wont stop dude

>> No.21052611

i wanna donate to dogen for a month and download his vids

>> No.21052615

>>21052582
That feeling when your native tongue has a 17 vowel phonemes and pitch accent

>> No.21052618

>>21052615
english?

>> No.21052621

>>21052611
so do it he at least seems to understand japanese in addition to talking like an anime character unlike matt

the only reason i can think of to not pay for dogens content is he lists himself as a comedy channel but theres no comedy in any of his vids ?

>> No.21052622

>>21052611
They are all available freely on youtube

>> No.21052624

>>21052600
>study session
lmao

>> No.21052628

>>21052621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcB6dViF8E

>> No.21052629

>>21052290
you say that but idk what it means. i guess it just doesn't work

>> No.21052633

>>21052624
Yep. Probably you were the one laughing about it and I'm still not sure why. I guess it can't be helped

>> No.21052635

>>21052633
pointless nerd shit. study when you feel like it, don't when you don't.

>> No.21052636

>>21052622
you mean unlisted?

>> No.21052637

>>21052628
How is this supposed to teach Japanese to anyone??

>> No.21052640

>>21052637
i think it's just a vehicle for him to assert his status as #1 gaijin

>> No.21052644

>>21052637
超役に立つ10の日本語フレーズ

>> No.21052645

>>21052628
this is not edutainment at all its just hella ass

>> No.21052647

>>21052636
Yeah. People have made playlists of those.

>> No.21052651

>>21052647
mind sharing?

>> No.21052652

>>21052637
It's not remember this is a guy who believes that it's more important to practice speaking the same 20 phrases for a year to get the accent just right before you move on to learn anything in the language.

In fact he was quite content with being much worse at Japanese than everyone else he hung around with just so he could improve that accent of his.

Why anyone would think that's the way to go I have no fucking idea. I think it's that weird obsession with wanting to be Japanese again.

>> No.21052654

>>21052645
it's not edutainment it's a deconstruction of the street jvlogger gaijin subculture

>> No.21052656

>>21052651
Literally search dogen pitch accent on youtube

>> No.21052659

>>21052654
what is that

>> No.21052661

wew the mattdrones are strong tonight

>> No.21052662

>>21052654
sorry i dont pursue that kind of content in the first place so it doesnt do anything for me but look gay

>> No.21052664

>>21052659
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jvloggers

>> No.21052667

>>21052652
I thought it was just a saying or something, but are there really people that want to be Japanese? Like, speaking the language, liking the popculture and maybe even living there sounds cool, but I'm never going to be a real Japanese person and I don't want that either.

>> No.21052669

How high is Matt's IQ?

>> No.21052673

>>21052652
You don't have to shit on Dogen just because people shit on Matt, dude. Chill out.

>> No.21052677

>>21052669
IQ doesn't correlate with language capability or talent. Professional intelligence tests done by psychologists aren't IQ tests, but rather tests in different categories, like mathematical understanding, memory and language ability.
Source: Took one when I was a kid.

>> No.21052678

>>21052669
jewish and articulate despite what the haters say. verbal is at least 130 but could be as high as 135 or 140. everything else is probably lower, say 110-120, so his IQ is probably 120-130.

>> No.21052682

>>21052667
I think it used to be way more prevalent 10 odd years ago than it is today. But there were a lot of genuine weeaboos over the years.

Getting a perfect Japanese accent is a parlor trick at best. It's neat to sound like a fucking idiot every time you open your mouth, but don't bend over backwards and try for months and months on end to just make your pronunciation better while you neglect other parts of language acquisition.

Japanese won't really care. It doesn't matter much professionally and you are most likely not asian anyways so no one is going to mistake you for being Japanese either way.

>>21052673
Eh it's okay he's not too bad overall, but his obsession still werids me out a bit.

>> No.21052683

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWYRayhtf-A

>> No.21052684
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>>21052677
>but rather tests in different categories, like mathematical understanding, memory and language ability.
that's what an IQ test looks like u idiot

>> No.21052688

>>21052683
lingual steve got fuckin wrecked hes actually dead and out of the game now dude sorry

>> No.21052689

>>21052656
>dogen pitch accent
thanks dudete

>> No.21052693

why did jamal turn on steve? he tells people not to worry about stuff like anki (unless they want to) and other nonsense and just read and listen.

>> No.21052694

>>21052693
someone link the katakoto comment for this boy

>> No.21052697

sure feels good to know 3000 languages to a point of academic proficiency, i can feel the tamunyeh pouring into my blood

>> No.21052698

>>21052694
it's been like 30 years since he lived and spoke in japan and consumed japanese material and he's learned a dozen languages since then. cut him some slack. that doesn't render his advice bad. jamal should LOVE steve.

>> No.21052699

>>21052684
Well, yeah, but the professional one isn't called an IQ test and doesn't give you a number either, but rather a listing of how you scored in each category (below average, average, above average, far above average) and shit like that
Aka you can't even say what your IQ is despite having been tested

>> No.21052702

>>21052698
i mean i used to but that was one of the most savage owns ive seen and i have no choice but to side with it

also cuz steve doesnt do it for free "fuck the jews"

>> No.21052705

>>21052699
there is no "the professional one". there are several different kinds that are used and i just posted one.

>> No.21052706

>>21052702
nice try not-jamal

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>>21052706
trust me its me dude

>> No.21052716

>>21052709
>filename isn't キャプチャ
nah

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21052728

Ppl here using AJATT? At university / alongside a STEM subject / alongside work? How's it going? Criticisms? Does it work?
Unrelated, do ppl here have Japanese friends on discord et al? Can you talk with them? Anyone here ( I suppose not cause this is a learning thread) fluent?
And finally, did people realise Japan was/wasn't what they thought it was? How long did that take?

>> No.21052733

>>21052716
if u search that image im sure itll come back 2 one of my great posts

>> No.21052734

baits are getting smarter

>> No.21052740

maybe matt would have a better accent if he took passive immersion seriously what do you think

>> No.21052757

>>21052728
I have a married middle aged Japanese salaryman friend on discord (I brought him over from skype)

so we get drunk on weekends and talk to each other until his wife comes to the room and screams at him to stop making noise and go to sleep or he starts spilling alcohol on his expensive electronics

>> No.21052759

i should be learning statistics and reading studies so that i can best understand what's true or false in a wide variety of topics but instead i'm learning something as pointless as japanese fuck

>> No.21052772

are you trying to flex because half of us here are STEM graduates and there are even PhDs here

>> No.21052777

>>21052728
I am in grad school in a STEM subject. I do as much Japanese as I can fit in a day. Which amounts to at least 4-6 hours. I'm not trying to follow AJATT but that time is mostly filled with immersion and some Anki (< 30 minutes per day).

I have some Japanese people I talk to regularly on the internet but I am far from fluent.

I never had such misconceptions about Japan because I went there multiple times before I decided to start studying the language.

>> No.21052785

>>21052757
Any topics you find interesting to hear the Japanese take on specifically? Like attitudes to technology / cyberpunk stuff? Or are you just chatting the shit to practice Japanese?
I always found the sarariman attitude to be crazy from my pov - why dedicate yourself to a company which couldn't care less about you? Is it a hangover from initial economic Westernisation, or is it cultural?

>> No.21052790

>>21052777
What misconceptions do you think the average Japanese learning speculator might have apart from the obvious 'it's not like an anime'?
And how does one find Japanese people to talk to online?

>> No.21052813
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oh matt

>> No.21052815

>>21052785
he's a different beast in that regard

he mostly cares about his hobbies and despises people who obsess over money, status etc.

he's a close friend of mine and i've known him for many years so we just talk about goings on, in-jokes and other stuff of our mutual internet hangout

when he gets really drunk he loses the ability to speak english and i lose the ability to speak japanese so that's where the real fun starts

>> No.21052818

>>21052790
>What misconceptions do you think the average Japanese learning speculator might have apart from the obvious 'it's not like an anime'?
A lot of people seem to consider Japanese people "fake" or "cold". Especially Americans. I'm German so nothing about the Japanese demeanor bothers me.

If you come from a culture where it's normal to be social in every situation you're going to be weirded out. Japanese can be quite social but it's very dependent on the situation you're in. I've had a lot more people chat me up in a bar at night, but it never happens during the day somewhere out in public.

The rest should be common knowledge, like Japanese not liking to talk about opinionated things to people and what not.

>And how does one find Japanese people to talk to online?
You can literally talk to Japanese people (in Japanese) on 4chan if you want to. It's not hard.

>> No.21052827

>>21052813
he's right about reddit though. djt has been on the input train for a long time but other communities shit on input as the primary means to achieving fluency. a few people will comment "yea input is obvious bro" but the wider community does not push for input so it rings hollow.

>> No.21052831

>>21052818
germans are white and western european so i'm guessing you're a lot more warmer and open than japs. actually your immigration policy reflects that too. so nah i'm not buying it dude stop bullshitting

>> No.21052833

>>21052818
>You can literally talk to Japanese people (in Japanese) on 4chan if you want to
You mean those aren't expats on /int/'s japanese thread?

>> No.21052837

>>21052813
god i wish i was Matt

>> No.21052842

>>21052827
reddit are clueless about language learning but also think they can get the same results through methods they feel are more efficient because they only study 1 hour a day and achieve 20% comprehension after 1 year

>> No.21052843

>>21052833
there are two threads on /int/

one of them is composed of weebs trying to learn japanese because they want a girlfriend (mega yikes)

the other is japanese oyajis discussing fishing and lures

>> No.21052849

>>21052831
Spoken like a true Yank. Have you met many Germans?

>> No.21052852

I fucking hate Anglos

>> No.21052855 [DELETED] 

>>21052849
no but the fact you want to let in hundreds of thousands of violent brownies from the middle east indicates you're a lot more open and warm than the japanese who let in virtually none. idk why reddit-types try to pretend germans are so cold when you're clearly some of the most disgustingly empathetic people in the world.

>> No.21052867

shut the fuck up u retards.

>> No.21052874

>>21052855
Not Germanon, but I live in yurop and you're retarded. Stop clagging up the thread abd talk about immigration in /pol/ please. Jannies plz delete immigration comment chain.

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>>21052874
it was like 2 posts you crybaby and you're not helping either. i post demonstrated preferences vs. your dumbass stereotypes. i win. fuck off.

>> No.21052885

What percent of /djt/ is actually discussing the Japanese language itself instead of blogging, e-celeb posting, etc.?

>> No.21052890

>>21052538
yes, mostly

>> No.21052892

>>21052885
What aspects of the language would you like to discuss?

>> No.21052895 [DELETED] 

>>21052855
kill yourself retarded ameri

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>>21052884
great job sport

>> No.21052901

>>21052892
Pitch accents.

>> No.21052903

>>21052855
it's not empathy, it's guilt
also making sweeping statements about the personality of a populace based on a piece of immigration policy is really fucking stupid

>> No.21052929

>>21052901
I like to read words and see if I know the pitch accent then check the dictionary to see if I'm right.

>> No.21052937

>>21052901
Are Japanese pitch accents like those in Mandarin? 12345?

>> No.21052948

>>21052937
No. Go watch the Dogen videos

>> No.21052949

>>21052937
It's more like english syllable stress

>> No.21052951

>>21052937
It's like syllable stress but the way it interacts with sentence structure is different and pitch-upsteps are an artifact of prosody rather than part of a given word's "accent".

>> No.21053001

Who made the VN core 1.25k deck? Some anon?

>> No.21053016

>>21053001
wareya

>> No.21053023

thread today: dekinai only
i really hope matt is paying rent for living like this on your heads

>> No.21053032
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>> No.21053052

>>21053032
good times, it's too bad vn difficulty shitposting is gone

>> No.21053065

>>21053052
is this chart bad? i was really hoping it wasnt :(

>> No.21053074

i killed the hentai chart game seeing these old shitty 1s is just lol

>> No.21053075

>>21053065
define bad
it's better than, like https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/cor/gazou/vn1.jpg
but it's worse than jamal's

>> No.21053093

>>21053075
i see. thanks anon

>> No.21053097

>>21053032
I thought that Muramasa was much easier to read than Nasu's overly verbose narration in Fate.

>> No.21053131

Why does djt never talk about the jalup guy? He's good at 日本語 got on japanese TV and works in legal translation.
He's also not a speed like m*tt
https://youtu.be/Xd7cliKwwiY

>> No.21053143

>>21053131
huh i guess i like this guy a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0aOXpyOWrE

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Why does studying Japanese give me an urge to masturbate?

>> No.21053196

dont fap to girls(male)

>> No.21053197

play with it 2 much ull go blind then ull be forced to learn japanese by listening only

>> No.21053203
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>>21053184
Because masturbation is the first and last step to getting good at Japanese.

>> No.21053204

>>21053184
thats because you're using shit to learn Japanese. If you used the high quality books like Japanese for Busy People, you wouldnt feel like it.

>> No.21053208

>>21053075
>it's better than, like https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/cor/gazou/vn1.jpg
That's a general rec chart, not a "reading difficulty" chart.

>> No.21053222

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWYRayhtf-A&t=1088
3rd best language after english and french and made a mistake like that? say it aint so

>> No.21053234

>>21053222
mistake like what

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>>21053203
Ahh, the pits of a cute JC!

>> No.21053242

>>21053208
5/5 on writing and scenario on g-senjou no maou
3/5 visuals on inganock
2/5 on scenario for sengoku rance
2/5 on the doujin release of himawari
5/5 on scenario for ever17

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>> No.21053251

>>21053242
Well, I'm not saying I agree with his opinions, just that it has nothing to do with charts like >>21053032

>> No.21053254

>>21053222
heres a better timestamp 4 that vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWYRayhtf-A#t=1275

>>21053246
holy shit dont ever post this again

>> No.21053266

>>21053254
>holy shit dont ever post this again
What's bad about it? Honest question, I'm relatively new and haven't started reading VNs yet.

>> No.21053271

>>21053266
it has a lot of things that are downright bad recs for "beginners", like twinkle crusaders and baldr sky

>> No.21053275

>>21053271
>it has a lot of things that are downright bad

coulda stopped there

>> No.21053276

>>21053266
It's a troll chart meant to trick beginners into trying to read highly complex works of literature like ティンクルくるせいだーす, 素晴らしき日々 and はなひらっ!

>> No.21053282

>>21053275
yeah that too tho you gotta read some of the garbage to grow into a real man just like little kids eating dirt and sand

>> No.21053290

i just realized whoever made that chart actually read twinkle crusaders thanks to noticing an obscure little detail

>> No.21053322

こんにちは、guys. I just found out about this thread and I would like to share my "method"
I don't like any formal tutoring, so I jumped right onto reading.
I found a light 小説 I wanted to read on itazuranekko.

I mark a sentence and see if there is 漢字 I dont know. If there is, I immediately write that 漢字 down from a couple of times to even 10 times in a row (depending on the complexity of the 漢字). I don't care about stroke order, since I'm not a native 日本語 speaker and dont intend to pretend to be.

Finished with the new 漢字, I paste the sentence on google translator and, through a lot of try and error, I manage to separate the words and write down the meaning for individual words. I then read the sentence a couple of times.
I've been doing this for more than 3 weeks now and I can feel my japanese improving! 頑張って ne

Please share your methods and make recomendations to improve mine, if that's okay to ask here.

有難う御座います

>> No.21053337

長すぎ読んでない

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bakugo is such an unlikable character that the literal droplets of "development" we get simply cannot make up for it. it's like if there were a character that tortured innocent dogs for no reason and by 4 seasons into a show he had developed into a better person who only tortures mice. yea no. i don't even love to hate him. i just hate him.

>> No.21053524

あたしのマンコは本当にかわいいでしょう

>> No.21053533

ur manko smells like fuckin shit and looks like rotten roast beef fuck u and i dont mean sexually faget

>> No.21053591

>>21053322
what’s the point of practicing writing at all if you don’t care about stroke order? that’s just gonna make things harder as you encounter more difficult kanji, instead of easier like it would be if you got stroke order down correctly

>> No.21053603

>>21053522
it really hurts because i genuinely think BNHA has some of the best art in any ongoing shonen manga but i just can't read that shit at all. the way the narrative always treats him like a victim, characters forgive him for no reason no matter what a bitch he is, just no.
ougamadoki zoo was better... isn't an accurate statement, but at least the aquarium arc was pretty good and the characters were okay.

>> No.21053609

>>21053246
the main thing that's funny about this chart to me is the "expected reading times" on a beginner chart. if you're picking your first vn you can expect the duration to be 2, 3, or even 4x what they say to expect.
t. coming up on 100 hours in baldr sky and only just now finished getting my first ending for nanoha.

>> No.21053689

>>21053032
i wonder how steins gate fits in here

>> No.21053702

>>21052740
What do you mean "seriously" ? In his November patreon q and a he said he used passive immersion all the time when he was going hard on ajatt when he was in school. Its my understanding that he makes the distinction that passive immersion in itself isn't beneficial, but if used with material you've already watched/listened to it can have good benefits.

>> No.21053703

私の目標は日本語できることです

>> No.21053722

>>21053689
go find jamal's nihongo chart it's on there iirc. pretty sure it's listed as being 普通 alongside stuff like baldr

>> No.21053725

>>21053703
>日本語できること
日本語ができるようになること

>> No.21053799

daily reminder to use anki. keep your review time 20 to 30 minutes a day. stop adding new words whenever you want. liberally suspend cards you’ve successfully seen in the wild again. and read a lot.

>> No.21053803

daily reminder to get bent nerds

>> No.21053826

>>21053799
And do not add 183 cards

>> No.21053862

>>21053799
i'm still forgetting cards from the premade decks but i am upping the interval limit from 2 weeks to 4 weeks to reduce the reviews from 45 a day to 30 a day, or whatever they'll be.

>> No.21053865

>>21053862
>interval limit
You did this to yourself.

>> No.21053881

>>21053865
yea i wanted to drill certain important grammar points over the past month or two so i set the maximum interval to 2 weeks but i think i'm willing to worsen my retention a bit to keep the reviews down. most of the grammar i'm forgetting is stuff i'm not encountering much or at all while reading so i think it'll be OK.

>> No.21053918

>>21053881
You shouldn't have a reachable interval limit. Anything you forget will be failed and have its interval lowered appropriately. Anything you don't fail will continue to grow. That's the whole fucking point.

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>>21048763
Took me pretty much the entire day of non-stop reading, but I managed to check off another route. Just one more to go now. Hopefully I can finish that tomorrow and move onto something new at long last. I've been reading this VN since mid November of last year, whereas I should've finished it in early-mid January.

I have enjoyed this VN (君が主で執事が俺で) a lot though, which might not be very obvious from the fact that I took a three month break from it and am seemingly eager to finish it. If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have been able to spend the last 3 days straight doing pretty much nothing but reading it non-stop all day. There's a lot of good humour and the characters are all great, and for anyone who likes collecting 四字熟語 there are absolutely tons of them in this. Difficulty-wise, it's not Hanahira or Flyable Heart tier easy, but it's not all that hard either. Definitely recommend it to anyone who has a couple of VNs under their belt and is looking for something new to read.

>> No.21053957

>>21053918
sometimes i forget the term only part of the way through a long interval. by the time i see the word again i could have gone weeks or months without having known it. so i temporarily shortened the maximum interval to practice them more frequently.

>> No.21054001

>>21053702
just thought he's been saying recently that passive immersion isn't a big deal which i thought really separated him from khatz who said you should listen for 24 hours a day

>> No.21054008

did you guys disable the feature that tells you how many days between intervals depending what you answer? i did just curious

>> No.21054039

>>21054008
Is there a reason to do that?

>> No.21054059

>>21054039
displaying the intervals doesn't help you learn at all it just makes you pick based on what you feel like

>> No.21054065

here is a tip for all u dekinais out there, whenever you come across a manga page or a paragraph you can't read that well yet, save it and try after a few months. the hit you get after realizing you are improving helps w/ motivation

t.10 months in but im making it

>> No.21054079

i was 9 months in yesterday but i realized i was doing it all wrong so i'm starting over today.

>> No.21054104

I usually think Aklo is decent but I think his part in this song is the weakest part of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ekjyZPG47U

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>>21054079
You're well on your way to VN e-celebdom!

>> No.21054127

>>21054115
That guy sucked but whoever made that pic is truly obsessed

>> No.21054128

>>21054115
What am I looking here?

>> No.21054135

have y’all ever encountered a VN that didn’t work with ITH text hooker? what did you do

>> No.21054144

>>21054135
I probably have, but I don't know because I don't use a text hooker.

>> No.21054145

>>21054135
Yes. Chose another one

>> No.21054146

>>21054128
lmao exactly

>> No.21054151

>>21054144
you manually look up everything?

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