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What are /jp/'s thoughts on Welcome to the NHK? I just finished it and I know this isn't /a/ but I'd rather not discuss it there. You guys love Marimite too right, so I'll assume it's ok.

I now feel like my life is worth more.

>> No.2115152

I read the novel and felt like more shit than I do already.

>> No.2115153

I just wish I had some girl like that in my life.

But then she'd be 3D and I'd regret my wish...

Eh.

>> No.2115155

Its pretty good but its gonna take more than an anime/manga to make me change my ways.

It is inspiring though.

>> No.2115162

I couldn't relate to Satou at all, he was so normal it was really unbelievable he'd fall so far down the path he did.

>> No.2115164

>>2115162
I know exactly how you feel.

Actually, it seems like the people who write stories about NEETs really don't understand what they're writing about at all, because they character is always way more normal than the real deal.

>> No.2115166

>>2115162
I know exactly how you feel.

Actually, it seems like the people who write stories about NEETs really don't understand what they're writing about at all, because the character is always way more normal than the real deal.

>> No.2115170

>>2115166

Um, the person who wrote NHK was a hikikomori himself. NHK is basically his auto-biography.

>> No.2115174

>>2115170
Right, right. It's not like he said that just so it would sell better or anything.

>> No.2115179

>>2115170
Haha what? If that's true I feel it's more along the lines of self proclaimed.

>> No.2115187

the novel needed more puri-puri~n

>> No.2115189

>>2115187
You mean puru puru pururin?

>> No.2115199

>>2115162
>>2115166

Also, you don't have to be a complete social retard/otaku/whatever to become a hikikomori. There's a lot of things that can set it off.

>> No.2115200
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2115200

Ressentiment is more /jp/ related than Welcome to the NHK could hope to be.

Theres Me-Teru no Kimochi if you want something about a hikkikomori, but its pretty mediocre.

>> No.2115205

>marimite
fuck yeah

>nhk
no thanks

he shouldve just made that pururin shit an anime instead

>> No.2115216

>he shouldve just made that pururin shit an anime instead
/jp/, where shit is taste and taste is shit

>> No.2115215

>>2115153
I actually had a girl like this in my life. She eventually gave up on me, then she became a slut.

>> No.2115218
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>>2115200
Jesus fuck that artstyle is ugly.

>> No.2115219
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>> No.2115220

So because we like the Marimite somehow NHK can be discussed here, right? That's quite the botched logic you have there, OP.

>> No.2115221

>>2115200
Ressentiment made me realize that while I might be above average in appearance right now, I will eventually grow old, fat and disgusting.

>> No.2115222

>>2115220

NHK Is a light novel. Light Novel's are /jp/.

>> No.2115224

>>2115220
Considering they're both novels, yeeah.

>> No.2115251

I don't like it.

>> No.2115254

I liked it but couldn't relate to it very well as I'm not an unhappy NEET, I do what I do because I enjoy it not because I'm scared of going out or any of that lame shit.

>> No.2115258

>>2115199
Like? I mean, people become hikki because they suck at communicating with people, that's it. If there was anything else you could simply go to the doctor and have it cured, right?

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2115263

NHK: Haven't watched the anime but the manga ending was the biggest cop out since Don Quixote.

Ressentiment: Great but I'm not too keen on all the fantasy stuff, needs more scanslations. (Boys on the Run needs scans too!)

Me~Teru: Mediocre at best, but the author manages to nail the thought processes pretty good at certain stages. Pictures related.

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>>2115263

>> No.2115266

>>2115258
>people become hikki because they suck at communicating with people
The thread will eventually turn into (further)shit but this is hilarious. Please go on.

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>>2115265

>> No.2115278

>>2115258
People in real life aren't as varied and interesting as you'd want them to be. Someone could be a hikki because they find people boring or don't have the same interests as most people.

>> No.2115279

>>2115258
What about the ones who just hate people and hate being around them?

>> No.2115289

>>2115279
They turn into serial killers, not hikikomori.

>> No.2115328
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2115328

I turned hikki for a simple reason: I've worked graveyard shifts since I got out of college in '04. Instead of going to the office now, I just VPN from home. I stopped going to clubs and theaters and shit because people are too fucking noisy and PIG DISGUSTING. the grocery store is a block away, and I pay all my bills online. I only have to see the sun when my figures or computer components or random shit ordered on the internet arrives by fedex.

While I'm concerned that I haven't had pussy since I divorced my wife in '00, and my mother keeps mentioning that I'm thirty with no grandchildren for her to spoil, I'm at the same time reassured that I'll never have to deal with such a vehemently psychotic and histrionic bitch like that again.

>> No.2115333

>>2115328
>Instead of going to the office now, I just VPN from home.
You have a nice boss.

>> No.2115331

I was never hikki, just had agoraphobia. After I got cured I was mad at people who choose to stay in the house. Then I was out in the world for a few months and I understood. Fucking world sucks.

>> No.2115337

>>2115328
>got out of college '04
>married '00
>divorced
You must be one ugly motherfucker.

>> No.2115341

>>2115337
What does college have to do with appearance?

>> No.2115346

>>2115289
What if you're a serial killer and hikikomori?

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>>2115333
He's pretty cool.
>>2115337
So ugly it hurts.

>> No.2115354

>>2115341
It seems that you married before college so I would say that you felt like
you didn't have many choices in women. Also, since you were married
straight out of high school (I'm assuming) or a little later, I'm assuming
you are one of those get-married-early couples that usually consist of an
ugly male and an ugly/fat/both female. Most people that aren't ugly don't
get married so quickly. Or you could have lived in a small town where
your chances of being ugly are higher because people that live in the
boonies look like shit.

>> No.2115357

>>2115354
Wait. I have no idea who is who because everyone posts anonymously.
Oh-shit-what-is-this-i-don't-even

>> No.2115365

>>2115357
Yeah, I wasn't the divorced guy, I was just wondering what the logic behind it was. But I understand now and it makes sense.

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2115388

I cannot get the Pururin song out of my head. It even has a fake opening! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CawJv5I820&feature=related

I enjoyed the series very much,though I probably relate more to Yamazaki's passion for doujin though not at all for his figure collection.

>>2115162
>>2115166
The "real deal" may have been more normal and high-achieving than you think. I have a hunch that a bunch of the people on /jp/ used to be high-performing students who lost interest in things once they got really into otakuism in whichever form. If the person was already a low-performing, antisocial student it really wouldn't matter or surprise people that he's NEET, and he can feel free to casually hang out with the other otaku with low grades at anime club or whatever, but if he was of high academic status he'd feel huge pressure to not let people know about what he's currently like, and can't stand to face former acquaintances, and thus is more likely to become a real hikkikomori.

Not only was the author a recovering hikkikomori, but years after writing writing Welcome to the NHK? he admitted in an interview that he was once again "reduced to a NEET, ... living as a parasite on the royalties from this book.

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2115410

http://www.4chan.org/rules.php
>3. Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography.
>off-topic

This thread is reportable. I have done so, and invite all sages and silent onlookers to do so as well.

>> No.2115421

>>2115410

'sup normalbro reportfag.

>> No.2115441

>>2115410
How can you possibly be described as a parasite when your livelihood is something you produced?

>> No.2115453

>>2115410
>HURR DURR I REPORT U!

shut up the adults are talking.

>> No.2115455

>>2115410
Fuck off!

>> No.2115463

>>2115410
I FUCKING HATE YOU MOTHERUCKER STOP SAGING MY THREADS AND REPORTING THEM UGHHH IM SO MAD IM GOING TO FUCKING KILL U

>> No.2115471

>>2115199
Being a Hikkikomori or shut-in doesn't really directly correlate with anything to do with otaku-ism, just that there's a great deal of overlap. There's already stuff like social/general anxiety disorders, agoraphobia, etc that leads to being a hikki, and I think Satou accurately portrayed signs of these.

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2115479

>>2115463
>>2115455
>>2115441
>>2115421
lol u mad?

>> No.2115481

>>2115410
>off-topic

Best threads on /jp/ are derailed threads.

>> No.2115484

>>2115481
This is very true.

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>>2115471
I was under the impression that hikki was a choice. You're not a hikki if you actually have serious mental isues keeping you from leaving.

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>>2115493
Whoopsie *issues
I hate typos...

>> No.2115504

>>2115493
Actually, you're not a hikki if you DON'T have underlying issues.

>> No.2115501

What the fuck is a hikkikomori?

>> No.2115506

>>2115501
It's Japanese for shut-in but people here seem to be running under the mistaken idea that it's some mysterious word with deeper meaning.

>> No.2115511

>>2115506
Many thanks, anon.

>> No.2115517

>>2115493

Being a NEET is a choice, being a Hikki though may or may not have something to do with any mental issues.

If you're both a shut-in and a NEET, then you've got yourself a problem.

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>>2115493
わたし、きれい?

>> No.2115523

>>2115517
>If you're both a shut-in and a NEET, then you've got yourself a problem.
/jp/ is rather problematic, huh...

>> No.2115525

>>2115517
I think it would be rather difficult to be a complete shut-in without also being a NEET.

>> No.2115526

>>2115517
>If you're both a shut-in and a NEET, then you've got yourself a problem.
What? Why? What if you just don't see any point in going outside?

>> No.2115529

Why does morning /jp/ suck so much?

Lurk moar.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Iat8YxUp4N0

>> No.2115534

>>2115529

It really does. Doesn't it?

It doesn't help that the weekend is looming and 5 hours ago there was nothing but trolls and shitposts (inb4 someone says that /jp/ is always like that)

>> No.2115535

"According to Michael Zielenziger's book, Shutting out the Sun: How Japan Created its Own Lost Generation, the syndrome is more closely related to PTSD. The hikikomori studied and interviewed for Zielenziger's book were not autistic, but intelligent people who have discovered independent thinking and a sense of self that the current Japanese environment cannot accommodate."
Ohhhh....
>>2115518
Yes♥

>> No.2115544

>>2115525
Not really. You could produce doujinshis and distribute them through an online store, for example.

>> No.2115553

>>2115529
It doesn't seem to mention there but the social worker was arrested later because one of the patients in her clinic died while chained to a bed.

>> No.2115554

>>2115535
I get the feeling that the more abnormal /jp/ users are also "intelligent people who have discovered independent thinking and a sense of self that the current ... environment cannot accommodate."

>> No.2115561

>>2115554

I used to think I was smart and special but then I realized I was neither.

Oh, well.

>> No.2115563

>>2115554
Yes, I agree.

>> No.2115569

>>2115553
It says so in the long video comment. What part of lurk moar is ambiguous to you?

>> No.2115570

>>2115561
That must have sucked, bro.

>> No.2115575

/a/

>> No.2115577

>>2115570

Not really.

>> No.2115586
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2115586

http://www.4chan.org/rules.php
>3. Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography.
>off-topic

This thread is reportable. I have done so, and invite all sages and silent onlookers to do so as well.

>> No.2115588

>>2115575

It's okay because "we" like Marimite, too.

>> No.2115593

>>2115575
>>2115586
Light novels and Japanese cultural phenomena are totally not /jp/ content. Nope, not at all.

>> No.2115601

>>2115593

That's right. Thanks for pointing that out.

>> No.2115608

>>2115561
You're smart and you're special for having completely thrown away the opportunities your intelligence gave you in life.

>> No.2115628

Way to have an NHK thread, bros.

>> No.2115630

>>2115608
Anyone who speaks of "the opportunities intelligence gives you in life" is simply not intelligent enough to realize that nothing good can come of taking these "opportunities."

You cannot be happy if you follow the path laid out for you by society simply because that's what you're told to do. You are the only one who can define "success."

>> No.2115640

>>2115586
It's only a matter of time before he gets banned for doing this in every single thread.

>> No.2115649

>>2115640

He only posts that in off-topic threads.

>> No.2115656

>>2115630
I'm sure you'll be happy being a worthless shut-in who kills himself at thirty.

>> No.2115660

>>5115649
He only posts that in on-topic threads.

>> No.2115661

>>2115649
Not really. I see you post it all over the place.

That being said, this thread does fucking suck.

>> No.2115665

>>2115660

This the only on-topic thread in /jp/ at the moment?

>> No.2115670

>>2115656
>worthless
Oh wow, so my happiness is supposed to be defined by what I do for *you*? That's rich.

>> No.2115668

>>2115630
Fucking
This.

I'm really not interested in the "right way to live" that society shoves down everyone's throats.

>> No.2115674

>>2115661

>I see you post it all over the place.

Is it because there are off-topic threads all over the place? I don't disagree with his judgment of threads very often.

Also, not me.

>> No.2115683

>>2115593

/jp/ - Japan/General

1. All things Japanese welcome!

>> No.2115684

>>2115674
>not me

Same IP.

>> No.2115691

>>2115670
I don't care what you define your happiness as, as long as it doesn't involve being a parasite that leeches off of others.

>> No.2115696

>>2115674
see
>>2115593

>> No.2115699

>>2115691
Get working on the niggers, jews, and Mexicans. Then come back to me.

>> No.2115705

Can someone explain to me the ending of Me~teru no Kimochi?
Who's the little girl at the end?

>> No.2115707

>>2115699
They're perhaps not the most desirable creatures to have around, but they're still far above you.

>> No.2115708

>>2115691
Why shouldn't I become a parasite? I'll ensure my survival and slowly kill bastards like you.

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>>2115683

>1. All things Japanese welcome!

What a cruel joke.

>> No.2115709

>>2115683
/a/

>> No.2115716

>>2115696
see
>>2115709

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>>2115707
Not the fag you were arguing with, fag.

Also, internet tough guys contribute to society? Hurr durr.

>> No.2115721

>>2115716
I guess we should tell those Type-Moon, Nitro+, and Touhou faggots to leave because they all have animu now.

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