Katakana

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Katakana Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:21:42 2019 No.22417724 [Reply] [Original]

Could someone please explain, why does katakana exist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:28:25 2019 No.22417742 For loan words

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:30:07 2019 No.22417747 >>22417742 so half the japanese language at this point

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:31:17 2019 No.22417750 >>22417742 Sure,but if it is phonetically identical to hiragana, then whats the point?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:48:20 2019 No.22417782 >>22417750 Japanese is way more readable because of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 03:53:09 2019 No.22417789 >>22417724 so you'll ask this retarded question.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 04:03:11 2019 No.22417813 >>22417782 By readable you mean understable?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 04:12:38 2019 No.22417835 >>22417782 it does sound like satisfying answer I'll take it for now

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 04:13:27 2019 No.22417839
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>>22417724
It was originally shorthand used for different kanji by buddhist monks.
From what I can tell it was developed independently from hiragana and was actually considered more "official" than hiragana.
But fuck if I know.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 06:32:34 2019 No.22418308

Katakana was invented by the Korans during WWII. The Koreans used it to secretly communicate with each other and to assist in building the underground railroad, which they used to smuggle jews out of the country so they wouldn't be holocausted by the Japanese. Thankfully a bright young Japanese man by the name of Aran Churingu cracked the Korean's nefarious code and allowed the Japanese to shut down the railroad and finish off the remaining Jews in the area. After WWII the Japanese adopted the code into their own language in order to serve as a constant reminder to both the Koreans and the Jews not to mess with Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 10:36:34 2019 No.22419230 >>22418308 That's bullshit but I believe it.

>>	Hamburgerz Wed Nov 13 10:37:53 2019 No.22419236 >>22419230 Welcome to Hungry Jax, may we take your lobster? >>22417564

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:55:35 2019 No.22419740
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>>22418308

you are completely wrong lol

Katakana was invented by Japanese monks around A.D.900.
They tried to read Chinese letters "Kan-Bun"(漢文) by using Japanese sounds, so then monks cut out a part of each kanji and made letters like this pic.

By the way, Hiragana was invented for women over 1k yrs ago, but since the Edo period, it became very popular with the common people, so Japanese people basically use Hiragana.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 12:59:05 2019 No.22419757 >>22417724 >katakana >>22414366 Will 4chan ever have non-retarded mods one day?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 13:22:52 2019 No.22419858 >>22417724 The japanese language is such a clusterfuck that to make it work in writing form requires 3 different systems.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:01:18 2019 No.22420049 >>22417813 no, he means readable Altogether, kanji, hiragana, and katakana do work well

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:10:52 2019 No.22420110 Do foreigners ask these questions about standard and cursive English letters?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:25:20 2019 No.22420187 File: 325 KB, 571x800, catorine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22417724 because this kata kana grape your ana, onahole mid-boss chan

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 14:29:27 2019 No.22420199 >>22420110 dude, britbongs are so weird they are fapping with left or right hand's pinky stating in a posh accent "indeed or in deep"

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 15:42:45 2019 No.22420511 >>22419858 Not to mention TWO. THOUSAND. of fucking complex characters. Imagine if the youth don't spend time learning them. More time for another subjects, or even free time, so they don't kill themselves for social pressure

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:09:37 2019 No.22420624 >>22420110 On that note, I wonder how many Japanese people ask the same question as OP. (because I've certainly seen English speakers as that question about cursive)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:32:19 2019 No.22420709 >>22419858 Not really. You could easily write it with hiragana alone. >>22420511 It's not as hard as you think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 16:35:03 2019 No.22420721 File: 76 KB, 580x308, kuzushiji-strips.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22420110 Dude, every language has cursive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 13:41:01 2019 No.22425594 >>22420110 Or about capital and lowercase even

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 13:43:51 2019 No.22425603 >>22425594 Tsk tsk anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 13:50:59 2019 No.22425637 >>22417724 It makes playing games in Japanese convenient

Anonymous Thu Nov 14 18:14:21 2019 No.22426770
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>>22420721
Japanese cursive is beautiful, but I have no clue how to read it. I think you just need to be able to guess the Kanji based on context.

Srot of lkie how you can raed tihs steencne jsut fnie, eevn tohguh it's hrad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 20:09:03 2019 No.22427189 >>22417724 ワイノット？

>>	Anonymous of the Valley of the(...) Thu Nov 14 20:12:12 2019 No.22427204 >>22417813 As in it's easier to grasp the fact that something is a loan word at first glance without having to intuit it based on context.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 20:34:50 2019 No.22427303 File: 566 KB, 633x569, n.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22427189 wainotsuto why not...? not sure what does it mean

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 20:43:51 2019 No.22427345 File: 89 KB, 850x697, Wynaut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22427303

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 15 01:38:59 2019 No.22428562 >>22418308 I like your headcanon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 15 23:17:19 2019 No.22433334 >>22417742 Reminder that Hepburn romanization was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 16 00:42:10 2019 No.22433610 >>22419757 Do an experiment for me: Ask the same question in that general and see how far you get. And OP was probably not looking for just one answer, but a discussion about it. DJT regulars intentionally ignore Japanese language questions.

Anonymous Sat Nov 16 08:22:40 2019 No.22434846

>>22417750
>if it is phonetically identical to hiragana, then whats the point?
Because the Japs are too retarded to pronounce single consonants.
Several phonemes are also absent from Japanese and so Japs never learned to pronounce them.
They also can't hear the difference between L and R.
They also use them for expressive writing.
Think like typing in ALL CAPS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 16 11:26:47 2019 No.22435596 >>22427303 Its "wainotto"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 16 15:00:01 2019 No.22436492 >>22425637 This I hate pixelated Nihon. It makes it dificult to make out what is written there if the text is small enough to be barely comprehensible but readable if you plant your face directly to the screen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 11:24:19 2019 No.22441329 File: 625 KB, 1984x1953, pixelated nihon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22436492 >I hate pixelated Nihon

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 12:26:34 2019 No.22441582 >>22417724 For no good reason at all. There's also no good reason Kanji exists, because you could use the same excuse to say that's why Katakana exists.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 12:46:39 2019 No.22441662 >>22420110 There's no such thing as cursive English letters, it's called Roman letters, furthermore it's an alternative way of writing that's not mixed into grammar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 17 13:26:40 2019 No.22441789 >>22441582 Trying to read anything in Japanese without kanji would be a living nightmare. You'd have to read out loud for anything to make any sense at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 13:26:13 2019 No.22447258 >>22417724 What's your opinion on wasei eigo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 17:13:12 2019 No.22448071 >>22447258 judging by the article on wikipedia, it is something cool and weird

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 18 17:22:36 2019 No.22448124 >>22441789 ばか　がいじん　の　もうそう

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 20 12:40:22 2019 No.22456989 >>22447258 It's the equivalent of weeabos using "sugoii", "kawaii", etc in their sentences.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 20 23:10:39 2019 No.22459415 >>22456989 So it's tottemo kakui?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 21 17:30:58 2019 No.22463233 >>22417724 This is a comfy thread for /jp/. If djt is as bad as you all say it is then this thread must be a nice breakaway. You aren’t archiving just yet. I’m actually learning things in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 22 02:11:38 2019 No.22465057 >>22463233 Not yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 22 02:57:53 2019 No.22465132 File: 97 KB, 339x352, 15560340011870-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22465057 Why won't you let it die?

Anonymous Fri Nov 22 03:04:51 2019 No.22465153

>>22417724
Because you can immediately narrow down what it's there for at a glance, be it a foreign word, a sound effect, or some kind of fictional name for something. Without spaces there's a need for weird things like this to be able to tell distinguish words from one another. Why couldn't they just use spaces? Beats the shit outta me

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 22 16:48:52 2019 No.22468043 >>22465132 ... because.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 22 16:55:34 2019 No.22468068 >>22419740 thats what the gook-jew alliance wants you to believe

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 22 16:58:09 2019 No.22468073 >>22468068 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 22 20:28:19 2019 No.22468783 File: 469 KB, 1600x1200, 1549981082833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Since the thread refuses to die, might as well ask you to sing along, hiragana and katakana minimum, no kanji exp needed https://files.catbox.moe/7wc4h9.mp4

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 23 00:24:52 2019 No.22469690 >>22468783 nice song

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 23 00:37:27 2019 No.22469719 >>22468783 anime is fucking trash

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 23 00:59:37 2019 No.22469767 >>22469719 If you don’t like Anime, you don’t belong on the 4chan domain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 23 11:51:52 2019 No.22471995 >>22469767 Isn't there more to Japanese culture than just anime?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 24 16:12:41 2019 No.22479045 File: 538 KB, 1000x1000, 1483667305260.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22471995 Yeah but anime is a cornerstone of 4chan, like it or not

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 24 16:58:24 2019 No.22479238 >>22469767 I like Touhou and I am thankful every day that it is not anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 18:23:46 2019 No.22484373 >>22479238 There is Touhou anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 25 21:20:15 2019 No.22485022 >>22484373 No there isn’t.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 00:28:52 2019 No.22485694 >>22434846 amerifats can't tell the difference between ん and ん LUL

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 26 22:57:14 2019 No.22490450 >>22485694 I dont get it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 10:04:07 2019 No.22492483 >>22465153 >Why couldn't they just use spaces? I always wonder why? Japanese language is so archaic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 27 13:40:24 2019 No.22493466 >>22479045 This. By default anime is allowed in all boards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 28 11:08:48 2019 No.22497946 >>22485694 Imagine typing the same letter twice and calling others retarded. Pinnacle of bad bait.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 11:22:37 2019 No.22502785 >>22497946 That's the joke.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 15:13:54 2019 No.22503694 >>22502785 That is not a joke, that is shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 29 15:35:44 2019 No.22503805 >>22503694 XXXXXDDDDDDDD epic JUST epin /jp/ro xxxxXXdDDDD LOOOOOOOOOOL im can't stop laugh HOOOOLY shit whatr th HELL man just epic

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:34:02 2019 No.22507070 >>22503694 If you didnt get the joke means you're not unstupid enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 21:23:39 2019 No.22511903 >>22507070 I get the joke, it’s just so stupid that it’s unfunny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 22:45:50 2019 No.22512274 >>22511903 thanks man my sides have losted it

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