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The touhou metal scene has been fucking dead since 2015 and listening to the latest AGENT 0 song gave me a shot of nostalgia.
I fucking hate that things have to end. Makes me want to start my own project.

>> No.22607365

Demetori's been pushing out albums up to 2018 and last I checked he was in a compilation album recently though I forget which one. Other than him you're right that its kinda slowing down, but I'm pretty sure that's all arranges as a whole. I honestly can't remember the last time a jazz album that wasn't by the NEETs dropped.

>> No.22607394

>>22607365
Yes, it's not exclusive to metal, this is just the one genre I'm most familiar with.
Demetori is still up and running, yeah. Shame they also started to get progressively more boring to listen to. That compilation song was a step in the right direction though,

>> No.22607484

>>22607248
>Makes me want to start my own project
Do it, i'm waiting.

>> No.22608153

>>22607484
I would need to find an available drummer. Not too keen on using programmed shit

>> No.22610574
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>>22607248
Undead Corporation is still releasing album at least last year, and Unlucky Morpheus just returned only to release remasters.
Then I just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2y8NGcxEs
Not sure it's up your alley.

>> No.22610589

Oh yeah, and Iron Attack is still active I believe.

>> No.22611270

>>22608153
excuses. You can still find a drummer after having programmed shit.

>> No.22611612

>>22607248
metal in general has been kind of on the downturn for a while, dude

>> No.22611667

>>22611612
Touhou too

>> No.22611669

>>22611667
No, that's reclining.

>> No.22611672

>>22611669
(also in all seriousness no, Touhou is on the rise)

>> No.22611684

>>22611672
Hasn't it been on the downturn every Comiket of the past like 5 years, except for one?

>> No.22611711

>>22611684
That means nothing. It's selling better than ever and still has two of its OWN *massive* conventions. In fact, one's opening up in my prefecture next year come to think of it, which is new. There are more manga out, more fanwork initiatives, there's a regular magazine and there have been incentives to tie all the disparate music circles together. Kids are into it and talking about it, and it's not just because of memes anymore since most of the series is readily available digitally...

I wasn't joking, Touhou is on the rise.

>> No.22611785

>>22607365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIHfxjXipPM
it's a weird time when we get full jazz arrangements from meme channels and actual doujin circles don't bother anymore

>> No.22611798
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22611798

Music scene in general has been narrowed down to pop and techno stuff more so than previous years. Not many other genres have made it into mainstream attention nowadays.
That goes to Touhou music scene too and it's even more appearent, though Touhou still has tons of typical jap rock constantly being released and less electronic stuff aside from pop. On the other hand, metal, jazz, traditional, orchestra, etc have been losing presence in the last few years.
Compare that to the golden age of 2009-2015 where you can find 3-5 circles for any possible genre and overall has a lot more of presence variety. Now we went from having tons of 2hu metal circles, from mild to hardcore, to only having Iron Attack and possibly UC, and from Tutti Sound, Morrigan, Carrotwine, etc to only NEETs and only recently HariHara in orchestra scene. Just from that you can assume that other genres are dying in 2hu music scene.
I wish someone could prove me wrong and I'm just missing a lot of hidden stuff.

>> No.22612514

>>22611612
Dunno what you're talking about. 2019 has been great for metal.

>> No.22612525

>>22610574
I follow Diabolic Phantasma since their inception. They're pretty alright but I stopped hearing from them ever since their last EP released.

>> No.22612570
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>>22611798

I don't know how eurobeat touhou circles have been in the past but each Comiket and Reitaisai I usually have from 7-10 new eurobeat albums on my to-buy list. So at least that genre is doing very well and there are clear differences in the styles of each circle so new content feels varied despite being the same genre.

I do wish Demetori was more active and that EastNewSounds and ZYTOKINE would go back to the style they had 5 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQJsXiLBI2c

Can't wait for Eurobeat Union and A-One's C97 previews

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>>22612525
Well their album last year is pretty recent to me, compared to most similiar metal circles that have gone/disbanded since 2016.
They also held a concert on March.

>> No.22612594

>>22611711
>It's selling better than ever
You have no idea what are you talking about, are you?

>> No.22612613

>>22612594
I'm not him, but I actually don't have any idea. Could you explain?

>> No.22612657

>>22612594
Depends on what he's talking about.
Touhou games? Yes. ZUN's booth during WBaWC release was the most crowded ever according to some sources, and Steam release definitely raised the sales significantly.
Touhou metal? No. Most existing metal circles have gone and the interest has pretty much dropped. Even among few ones left I say only Demetori and Iron Attack that I can see still doing fine.

>> No.22612658

>>22612613

>comiket 2011
https://touhou.arrangement-chronicle.com/event/series/コミックマーケット/コミックマーケット80
>Reitaisai 2010
https://touhou.arrangement-chronicle.com/event/series/博麗神社例大祭/博麗神社例大祭8

>comiket 2019
https://touhou.arrangement-chronicle.com/event/series/コミックマーケット/コミックマーケット96
>reitaisai 2019
https://touhou.arrangement-chronicle.com/event/series/博麗神社例大祭/博麗神社例大祭16

>> No.22612665

>>22612658
Made a typo, reitaisai 2010 is actually 2011

>> No.22612679

>>22612657
Classic anecdata.
Well here's some anecdata from me.
2007-2012 - tens of great doujin games every year, a bunch of doujin animations, the golden age of touhou music.
2015-2019 - fucking nothing
My anecdata > your anecdata.

>> No.22612719

>>22612679
Well it would be great to see the actual numbers.

>> No.22612731

>>22612719
Three posts up.

>> No.22612744
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>>22612731
Touhou is doing well then.
Good to know.

>> No.22612751

https://soundcloud.com/mokemoke_p/broken-dreams-feat
Sounds like Situation Report is releasing an album for the first time in 5 years at comiket.
With PC-98 tracks no less.

>> No.22612771

>>22612751
Not bad at all, not bad at all. Not my style, but it's good to see ANY kind of movement in the genre.

>> No.22612850

https://soundcloud.com/eru-aether/rinne-disc01-ssh-side-cfdemo
https://soundcloud.com/eru-aether/rinne-disc02-eru-side-cfdemo
Here's an upcoming 埼玉最終兵器＆Aether best of album with a couple of new tracks from WBaWC.

>> No.22612881

https://soundcloud.com/user-554313509-491386819/8mjgg6rehjpr
Upcoming best of album from かちかち山 with new songs.

>> No.22612888

>>22612850
I don't think he's looking for synthetic metal.

>> No.22612902

>>22612888

What's wrong with synthetic metal?

>> No.22612920

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQeqWTLv9kQ
I guess an album with this and other tracks will be released this comiket so looks forward to other songs with incredibly good lyrics.
>>22612888
I'm just posting whatever vaguely fits the description of 'metal'. Maybe someone else will appreciate it.

>> No.22613088
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>>22612902
Let's just say hand-played metal is something actual metal fans appreciate. You can tell what he's looking for from the circle name he dropped and bunch of previous suggestions.
I do like Aether and synth metal (not that I'm a true metal fan in the first place, mind you), but I don't think it shouldn't be grouped with organic metal.
I want to say that organic metal is usually influenced by popular metal bands as its appeal compared to synth metal but technically it's not something exclusive.

>> No.22613096

>>22613088
>shouldn't
*should

>> No.22613112

>>22613088
I personally don't mind synth metal but I do know people that would regurgitate on the spot if they were to listen to it.

>> No.22614028

https://youtu.be/wyMBQxoQHpI
https://youtu.be/5RlrQ70fc9E
This is the closest thing to a music thread right now, I need Touhou doujin remixes and covers that ellicit the religious feeling (sic) like these two songs (and the rest of the MoP OST) do especially well. That sapphire surrealist feeling that is intertwined and interlinked with mono no aware. Thanks!

>> No.22614098

>>22612888
S.S.H is great though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM

>> No.22614127

>>22611798
Probably going to sound a bit entitled but I feel like the lack of people uploading newcomer content from Comiket and other similar events makes it feel like theres less than there is.
It's hard to find brand new artists online without already following other artists or just going to Comiket yourself and looking at the catalog. Uploaders are already used to their NEETs and Iron Attack and know just to get those and rip them.
Either that or new artists all moved to places like iTunes or something, I've seen a few big groups put their music on stores like that.

>> No.22614168

>>22614028
Try this:
https://youtu.be/4n3T849_R_U

>> No.22614288

>>22614168
Thanks, itched the scratch a bit, especially 1:00 to 2:00.

>> No.22614412

>>22614127
I guess it's easier for distribution that way, but nobody here in the west really keeps track of all of that.

IMO, I wonder, are there any "western" arrangement circles? I wonder how a western Touhou metal band would sound like, provided it was more trad or something.

>> No.22614837

>>22607248
i actually own this album. took me a long ttime to get it, and i hold it very dear in my heart. That being said, the same can be said about a lot of circles in general. Alstroemeria fucking sucks now and just copy pastes boring ass EDM songs, though they've been on this decline since the DANCEHALL series first started back in 2011. of memories/trois noir were their last good album before minoshima started basically plagiarizing david guetta

>> No.22614849

>>22614837

Demetori's albums are fucking impossible to find. Wish I could find Offering to The Sukhavati from anywhere.

>> No.22614867

>>22614849
do you have discord? if youre serious about having difficulty in purchasing a copy, i can give you a shout, theres a couple good spots for purchasing cheap online

>> No.22614982

>>22614412
There's german 2hu circle that does EDM shit, and not sure if this count but Orange Jam is an R&B circle whose singer is a Californian and their songs are all in English, though they are still stationed in Japan, I think.

>> No.22615174

>>22614412
Border of Nightmare on Youtube is a metal artist but I think they just do guitar and the rest is digital synthy whatever the terms are.
If there are people who do arrangements in the west its usually just one person and not a whole circle.
I do wish it was easier to keep up with new circles but there's language barriers and if it's not that it's traveling and location and money.

>> No.22615193

>>22612657
>Touhou metal? No
Of course I'm not talking about metal. ZUN's made his games more available and in a lot of ways the source material is better known than it ever was before.

>> No.22615672

Do you seriously want to start a doujin music circle or are you just being retarded?

>> No.22615696

>>22615672
OP is just frustated (and so am I) and most likely won't start anything, but is there anything wrong for gaijins to start their own doujin music circle?

>> No.22615709

>>22615696
No. In fact, if he wanted to start a douijin circle I would probably participate in some way. But he sounds pretty useless based on the OP.

>> No.22615825

>>22614028
Secret Messenger, Re:Volte and some of the Riverside stuff.

>> No.22616982

>>22615672
Yes I do. Currently a bit too busy with university and work but someday I'll get to it. I kinda wanted to try and make some thrashy stuff, kinda in the vein of Toxic Holocaust or something like that.
Not a big fan of the semi-virtuoso style many circles like Iron Attack! or post-2009 Demetori play. All flash, no substance.

>> No.22617010

>>22616982
Oh yeah, I actually already made one or two arranges when I was like, 15. I sucked even more at bass/guitar and had to program a shitty drum beat. I don't have access to those tracks anymore since the laptop I had at the time died, but I think I still have a notebook with some edgy as fuck lyrics.

>> No.22617207

>>22617010
>I don't have access to those tracks anymore since the laptop I had at the time died
I see this so often on this site. Do americans really throw away whole laptop when one part dies?

>> No.22617227

>>22617207
Not American. And it wasn't one part, the laptop burned down and was rendered completely useless.

>> No.22617292

>>22617227
Pretty sure hard drives don't catch fire.

>> No.22625709

>>22607248
who cares

>> No.22632873

>>22607248
2hu metal is reclining

>> No.22636557 [DELETED] 

>>22607248
marisa

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