djt - daily japanese thread #2504

[Anonymous No.]

epic guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

previous thread: >>25781552

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>>25815966

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>>25816057
definitely bait

[Anonymous No.]

re: japanese and middle chinese, japanese reflects final -t and -k and a rather small amount of initials that mandarin doesnt, and merges the rest mercilessly including tone, although in goon you can find rather inconsistent voicing

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Ano saa, kono sure wa chotto "are"

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>>25816036
wanna read vagabond but its prolly hard and i cba to struggle through stuff anymore

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>>25796281
>considering asians age well
Not true tho
https://youtu.be/QzyWzWPILHM

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>>25816057
i chuckled

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>>25816057
lmaoo

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>>25815942
its wrong

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>>25816130
read it as くだらねぇ

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>>25816036
isnt this bitch from hololive wtf im going to murder the op

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>>25816080
tasikani、sou ieba sou kamo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Nb-CjIZYQ

what the fuck is this monster?

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>>25816094
>its prolly hard and i cba to struggle through stuff anymore
unironically ngmi

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25816065
rip..

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>>25816079
off the top of my head, the only MC initial that japanese does not merge with anything, and which Mandarin merged, is the ng- initial in kan-on only. everything else in Japanese is merged with at least one more or several other MC initials

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please click here for the non-streamerwhore thread
>>25816070

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>>25816177
i havent read or watching anything i struggle with a lot in like a year and ive made a fuckton of progress, just incremental increases in difficulty that somewhat correspond to my own improvement works fine

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>>25816175
it's highly symmetric which makes it easy to remember

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>>25816188
don't care whats in the op

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>>25816214
i care but not enough to start posting in another thread

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>>25816175
Thats not a kanji, thats a magic spell.

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>>25816214
thread ops are like anime ops
they set the mood/stage on which everything flows from

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Get better taste in livers.

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>>25816240
yea but what can u do

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>>25816240
lmao go meditate and calm down brother

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that every second spent on DJT will decrease your chances of making it by 1%

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jamal input vs quizmaster animecards who has the stronger superpower

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>>25816259
neither because youll never know japanese regardless of how much you promote either of the two

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>>25816259
theyre both sub 5 inches guaranteed

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>>25816254
mark my words
this general will become a hololive colony by spring 2021

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yea thats not gonna happen were all nijisanjibros here

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always wanted a 7 inch stinger

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>>25816296
no it wont lol

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>>25816296
not if we teach them how epic vns are

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>>25816281
i promote both because there are no good namefags otherwise

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>>25816335
you can promote me ill always be better

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>>25816351
give me your name i'll make some PR posts about you down the line

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>>25816335
ciaran is pretty well known and knows more japanese than matt and quizmaster combined

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>>25816383
yea but his posts are boring

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Tobira Guy is the ducking best

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>>25816400
then why not bunkobonfag? hes been in the business less than quizmaster, can read pretty well, and has like 5 different personalities.

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>>25816383
>ciaran is pretty well known
?

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ciaRAN

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>>25816420
made a good amount of posts about him but felt like shit later on because im not reading any bunkobonns and it made me sad about my own nihongo "life", think its much better for the soul to endorse someone like jamal who you kinda know to be shit, deep down

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>>25816456
i shit on jamal but deep down i know he's jouzu

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i make 100-200 posts a day i still dont have a name

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>>25816471
waiting for his second stream so much

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>>25816175
what pen is he using and what's a good general-purpose pen set

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>>25816486
I Christen you the 200 posts guy. Live in Christ, my ninja.

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>>25815999
>japanese onyomi are often closer to middle chinese pronunciations for characters than modern mandarin chinese pronunciations are to them
"often" here simply means it's not rare to find such examples, but retards take it as Japanese pronunciation overall being closer to middle Chinese than modern Mandarin when that really isn't anywhere close to being true.

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>>25816175
how do rtk friends read this one

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>>25816528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGRkIuVzhs

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>>25816543
those types tend to thing the two-thirds preserved 入声 and /kj/ in on'yomi is all there is middle chinese lol

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Please teach me the meaning of "Yabai"

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>>25816566
man that looks satisfying to write with...

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>>25816065
damn karbin deleted his videos again good thing I saved them this time

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25816763
https://vocaroo.com/dGvMevuB1ot

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25816811
dont worry dude we have chronicled his existence he definitely existed

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安倍将軍の妻がドアの向こう側にある彼の死のベッドにいる間にボディーガードをファックしている。

https://streamable.com/4e9blo

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>>25816834
youre a sick bully

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25816848
how is that bullying i want the best 4 him in my heart and never want him to be sad but hes gotta get serious or hes gonna be in real trouble dude

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im gay but i kinda like how carvin looks would have made him suck my cock

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>>25816870
serious about what

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25816883
stop makin vids about how he wants or needs to do x and just actually do it

its the same reason ppl cant learn japanese they come here or go wherever instead of do the thing they need to do which is spend time w. some 2d girls

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>>25816848
i've been saying this but no one listened

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>>25816933
i listened to you

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>>25816906
he wouldnt be making those vids if he could
its actually a desperate cry for help which is sort of pitiable when you think about it

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>>25816906
youre being like a shepherd counting another shepherds' sheep

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25816968
its unfortunate but the only one who cna save him is him

he has to do the doing and no one else can do what he needs to do for him

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y'all done quizzing and ready to do some real acquiring

i'll wait for u

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>>25816870
youre making fun of him for coming out and exposing his weaknesses and failings how is that remotely wanting the best for him

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>>25816998
state your name

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25817006
he doesnt need to do that on the internet he needs to go bust his ass simple as

they call it tough love for a reason dude

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Should I come back to the Discord???

I 1 shot the haard quiz but then left cause there was some Scottish pedo posting

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>>25817050
scottish pedo is gone he was bullied out

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>>25817049
this isnt tough love its just thinly veiled mocking
you talk as if its your obligation to shit on him "because its the internet" gtfo

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quiz has been a better influence on Calvin than jamal you can't prove me wrong

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>>25817049
u are almost 50 but you think like those teenager bullies from cliche movies. amazing

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amazing watching jamal slowly turn into the villain of djt

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i actually hope djt is overrun by idiot vtube retards that will be the push i need to quit forever

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>>25817247
they'll dance on jamal's unnamed grave for sure

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>>25817221
hes always been one just not as big as quiz

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>>25817314
quiz is on his way out thankfully

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cant tell if you guys are good or bad yesterday you were cheering for marys dox today youre condemning jamal for bullying calvin

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>>25817356
i just like being a contrarian

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>>25817356
wasn't cheering yesterday, im just here to condemn jamal

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i have two personalities
nicest person you will ever meet and twisted fucking psychopath

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>>25817356
neutral evil w/ some lawful characters thrown in

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>>25817356
mary is legitimately evil and cruel though, you shouldn't feel anything for "people" like him

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>>25817356
wow it's almost as if we are different people with different opinions

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>>25817410
hot

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>>25817435
name anything evil and cruel he has said or done other than some anti-woke 発言s

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>>25816065
;_:

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reminder that quiz is legitimately brain damaged

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25817084
just cuz u say its that doesnt mean its that get over urself

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

and with that i bid thee oyasumo

ur gonna have to hold that shit till next time

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>>25817643
wish i was a weird faced japanese female or w/e other interesting lifeform

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>>25817643
dont know why but looking at the pic i feel very sad for her

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>>25817612
stupid skiddy pants

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made a bunch of questionable quality posts here now watch the thread get better without me cause I'm leaving

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dont care

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>>25817612
oyasumi chuu

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Why is /djt/ so bad at english?
There are people here who refuse to capitalize and punctuate their sentences.

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>>25817491
>>25814720 for starters he's racist

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https://youtu.be/x01HmvQY0_A
gambaro

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>>25817792
you realize that's a good thing in the view of like 90% of users here right

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>>25817792
so

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>>25817781
funny thing is you didnt capitalize properly either
difference is now youre a mixedcase mongrel

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>>25817792
he didn't say being nonwhite is bad tho

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nanatsuiro drops ending was so bad I might quit japanese

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>>25817807
he's also hurt a lot of people go through the last thread

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>>25817792
it always makes me laugh that immigrant quiz is racist

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>>25817833
nah not gonna do that

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>>25817833
by pointing out that they couldnt pass the n5 discord quiz?

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>>25817819
you don't know what that meme means?

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>>25817850
it means being an uggo just like matt is. not a racist thing in of itself overall

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>>25817804
it's a loud minority of /pol/turds

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>>25817862
nope

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>>25817862
the meme is explicitly about racial purity and makes very negative caricatures of "mixed races"

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>>25817903
dont care

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>>25817871
you're delusional if you don't think the majority of users across all of 4chan are OK with "racism" in the form you're ascribing to quiz

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>>25817792
nothing wrong with that

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>>25817836
from white to white country

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>>25817911
whether you care or not makes 0 difference about the fact that the meme is racist

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>>25817903
that's just the reality of race mixing, its not trying to be unjust. we all know what it means. its a reality that exists for all of all racial makeups

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I see a lot of tools to make learning easier for japanese. it almost feels like i just need to put in the effort. with all the tools for flash cards and quick access dictionaries. What else is there that would make this process easier?

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>>25817945
the "reality" you're quoting is debunked racial pseudoscience from the last century

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>>25817945
uh it's not the reality at all, just in your head dude

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>>25817976
nope

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>>25817976
ugly is ugly, no need for science

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>>25817990
vacuous assertion

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>>25817952
joining the discord and making fun of quiz by @ing him

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>>25818014
using big words doesnt make you a scientist

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>>25818000
don't shift the goalposts, the meme has explicit racial connotations beyond mere appearance

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>>25817976
shouldn't be making bold claims about what's pseudoscience and what's debunked when you don't understand a topic. you're relying on cues and tells instead of direct knowledge. take the high road and abstain from having an opinion!

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>>25818027
irrelevant
don't care

[hunter richard No.]

bam bam forknut

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>>25818037
I mean, reality itself is "racist" if you want to take it that far. whose 脳内 is thw お花畑 here? that is the question (hint: not mine)

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>>25817945
why are /pol/turds always like this?
>racist? i don't know what u mean... ho ho ho
>oh no, u silly, it's not racist cuz i call this science in my head, gotcha ho ho ho
always denying the obvious shit they are doing, trying to gaslight people

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>>25818053
it is not my "opinion" that assertions about race mixing as potrayed in the meme are false

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yeah the anti-racism person won

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>>25818076
dunno what portrayal you're talking about

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>>25818065
>I mean, reality itself is "racist"
what do you mean

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>>25818075
denying what? that mixed race people are commonly ugly according to most people? doesn't take a scientist to figure out and is not racist because its the cold hard truth

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>>25818079
ciaran stop instigating.

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>>25816036
Previous threads
>>25781552 #2503
>>25736232 #2502
>>25687342 #2501
>>25626195 #2500
>>25591424 #2499

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>>25818119
thanks

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>>25818111
theres a lot of mixed-race models and celebrities tho they're not ugly

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>>25818099
yes that is precisely the problem you use meme while pretending to not know what it's about or being genuinely retarded to the point you're incapable of looking up and comprehending something so simple

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>>25818105
reality has races and shit. and those are sexually attractive to different degrees on average. racist innit

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>>25818139
yeah and black men are more sexually attractive on average than white men

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>>25818139
>reality has races and shit
lol you're being unclear about your own argument cuz you know it's wrong

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Is Matt literally retarded?
https://streamable.com/ftef7c

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>>25818138
i wasn't originally involved in this conversation. can you stop playing games and just spell out what you mean? if someone asks you for clarification and it would take you 5 seconds to do so then do so instead of assuming bad faith. because i really don't know what you mean. do you mean it's been debunked that "mutts" look ugly? is there a study using composites of people from different races and their mixes with subjects asked to rate them? no? then wtf are you talking about? stop hiding behind ambiguity. i'm sick of you pussies doing this.

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>>25818179
yeah you didnt need to post that to support your claim

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>>25818165
the question is whether making memes that reflect anything else but lefty pipe dream fantasy is racist or just essentially making peace with reality and being positive and happy w/o weird delusions about races supposedly not existing or w/e other schizo suicide shit

>>25818175
just trying to see if were clear on the really basic understandings

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でもタイツはすきなんでしょう

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>>25818295
nope

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>>25818183
quiz referenced a meme that has explicit racist connotations to describe matt then argued the meme isn't racist which is objectively false and finally pretended to be oblivious to the meme's well established connotations
whether matt happens to incidentally fit the potrayal of the meme in any form is irrelevant and of no concern to me

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Damn QM is so based

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watching you dumb monkeys call each other racist is lowering my iq

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>>25818339
your iq must be negative by now

[Anonymous No.]

What's wrong with being racist

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>>25818272
you don't honestly think anyone claims that race "doesn't exist" you just desperately want all lefties to be retarded but as for whether or not racial categories are biological? they're obviously labels made up for the convenience of the world's colonizers

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>>25818377
racists are either low iq or schizo

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epic japanese language related discussion going on right now guys real shame i dont feel like inviting janny to read it

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dont care

[Anonymous No.]

race is a social construct just like hills and mountains and valleys are yet they also refer to something real. end of discussion let's move on

[Anonymous No.]

bros the latest episode of rental kanojo is too cringe it physically hurts. i paused it. i don't think i can keep watching

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>>25817023
for what

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looks like we got a sn*tch boys *cracks knuckles*

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>>25818403
didn't watch any episodes of it

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So I wanted to learn Japanese recently for many reasons and started to take japanese on Duolingo a little over 2 months ago now. After looking up how effective it is, I have seen a few posts talking about how it doesn't teach grammar effectively and teaches illogical sentences. (Which i have encountered only 1 so far which is すみません、私はりんごです. Which means "Excuse me I am apple") But almost every bad review and post dated back to around 2017.

Now it seems since then they added a "tips" feature which seems to pull up a lecture explaining grammar, basic words and explanations as vital as like how -ます is used for verbs how how verbs normally come at the end of sentences etc. And upon scrolling down, it seems the lessons will begin to teach some really core stuff and in depth things such as government, food, honorifics, travel, events, science and almost tons of other things.

So it seems to have massively improved and gives the much needed explanations now (mostly, since some lessons dont have a lecture). But I have a question for anyone who's fully used it.

Is it best to continue using Duolingo to learn Japanese? I have already finished many lessons and am soon to be taking the 2nd placement test, but I'm worried that even by the end of the course I'll still have no idea how to speak in a slightly literate manner. I feel like it's been effective so far, and it has seemed to improve a ton over the years, so I am probably overreacting. But i want to know if the course is a reliable method.

TL:dr: The app seems to have improved but I'm concerned if it's a reliable source.

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>すみません、私はりんごです. Which means "Excuse me I am apple"
sumimasen as for me its apple desu

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>>25818401
>>25818379
>>25818309
>>25818272
why werent your posts delete ???

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wtf the thread died were u all banned or is this some kind of shadowban that doesnt let me see new posts

[Anonymous No.]

sigh

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>>25818444
そうですね。私はPCです。

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すみません、私はチキンクリスプです

[Anonymous No.]

sumimasen as for watashi it's mcchicken desu

[Anonymous No.]

test

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>>25818520
it worked

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>>25818436
lol

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>>25818543
what are you testing

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>>25818604
that wasnt me >:(

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>>25818604
The delete button apparently.

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>>25818436
>Which i have encountered only 1 so far which is すみません、私はりんごです. Which means "Excuse me I am apple"
thought learnjapanese was better than this

[Anonymous No.]

I hope this kind of post is allowed in here, but here's something really cool I discovered while learning kanji. In the anime No Game No Life the brother is 空（そら）and the sister is 白（しろ）, when you put them together like 空白 it's read as くうはく meaning blank space. Hence "together we are blank". I wonder if they chose the names specifically for this.

It's probably not that interesting, just wanted to share >___<

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>>25818677
nigga they think genki 2/completing Duolingo makes you advanced lmao

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>>25818729
that was interesting and i think your emotes are sort of endearing.

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>>25818436
i hope this is a reddit post

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>>25818729
Nice. I loved this anime. Sadly I don’t kanji. But I do know Hiragana and some Katakana so I’m able to read it. But by the end of this year I hope I know at least 100 kanji words.

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>>25818729
i hope this is a reddit post

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>>25818729
I love the little moments like these. Japanese is full of little realizations as you make progress.

[Anonymous No.]

calvin never really liked anime or moe or anything stereotypically otaku, and claimed he just wanted to learn japanese because he thought it’d be cool, so he was never really one of us.
he was the japanese learning equivalent of an /r9k/er who pretends to be chad by buying fancy clothes and going to the gym but still acts and thinks like a social skills-deficient nerd.
even if he made it at learning japanese hed probably never feel anything from reading nakige like suika and kanon.

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>>25818770
cant believe this post is real, one of you fuckers planted it and i refuse to believe otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

why did my cute emoteposter get deleted guys

[Anonymous No.]

janny?

[Anonymous No.]

yes

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>>25818819
idk the whole thread just got NUKEd hard lol (post your reading streams more often if you're reading this marine guy!)

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>>25818795
I have trouble believing anyone can be learning Japanese while hating all of its modern popular culture, and I feel like people who pretend to only be interested in Japan's "rich cultural history" like samurai and shit are the most weeb of all.

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>>25818856
i think theres lots of people who might associate japan with normalfag friendly stuff like tall, modern-style skyscrapers in central tokyo, fast trains, and video games, who probably imagine japan as an east asian equivalent of switzerland or something (very safe and highly developed), and who rarely ever think of moe or lolis or ecchi or anything else commonly associated with reclusive otaku so maybe for them japan is like some kind of technologically advanced paradise that has all of the benefits that other east asian countries do with none of china’s pollution or none of singapore’s extreme crampedness, hence why they might wanna learn japan because they like nujabes or something like that.

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>>25818956
yeah and those people are a very small minority don't kid yourself

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>>25818971
nah they seem to be the majority in the comments section of youtube videos of “foreigner has cash af tiny apartment in the tokyo metropolitan area and gives you a tour of it” and “relaxing recording of sounds on a rainy day in a busy east asian city”

[Anonymous No.]

real janni hours i sleep

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>>25819004
it’s your own fault for clicking on weebbait videos.
if you were smart, you’d know better than to click on shit linked from here or suggested by (((the algorithm))).

[Anonymous No.]

Will vtubers become more popular than anime in the next few years?

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>>25819004
well of course but that's becuase those are normalfag videos to begin with
on the other hand yt is overflowing with users who have some sort of anime/manga dp

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>>25819034
Probably yeah. Can't wait for the vtuber anime.

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>>25819034
they already are
most anime are so unpopular that they end up losing more than they make
vtubers on the other hand are free and are watched by hundreds of thousands of eop gaikokujin

[Anonymous No.]

pretty horrible
stupid gaijin will start interfering with production and creative work

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819060
vtubers have a better way to monetize their foreign weeb fanbase via youtube while anime has trouble cashing in on that popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

hey queef weren't you going to make your vtuber debut

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>>25819034
how do those retards watch something they cant understand

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>>25819120
true power of white noise fags
natural born immersion tards

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>>25819120
>Posted in a general that encourages you to watch thins you don't understand

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>>25819154
no one whos made it says this

[Anonymous No.]

that feel when you accidentally own yourself by calling japanese white noise

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819167
its white noise for eop yes

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@25819154
stfu uppercaser

[Anonymous No.]

The only person who advocates for incomprehensible input these days is Matt. Nobody else believes you’ll be able to get your Japanese seeds sprouting without lots of fertilizer (textbooks), well-irrigated soil (dictionary usage + SRS), and sunlight (easily comprehensible input).

[Anonymous No.]

matt is the only japanese learner who matters though

[Anonymous No.]

You’re still an EOP if you can’t understand audio-only content that has no transcription.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819200
>>25819210
die uppercaser

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819204
>The only Japanese learner who matters is the one who doesn’t get you anywhere unless you’re smart enough to totally ignore all of his advice

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>>25819200
the latest q and a from matt: he said that the best way to learn is from content that you can understand almost all of it

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154
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who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

the sentences in my mind

[Anonymous No.]

schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

imagine being so bad you have to distinguish between comprehensible and incomprehensible

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819237
Being in his Q&A videos means he must clearly not want people who do not pay him money to know this.

[Anonymous No.]

dont have to imagine that

[Anonymous No.]

yeah i'm sure peppa pig is as comprehensible as genji monogatari for a beginner

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819269
Even if I could understand everything in Japanese, there would still be lots of other learners for whom most content would be mostly incomprehensible, and very little content would be mostly comprehensible. I wasn’t really talking about myself as much as I was talking about all those beginners who may occasionally stumble across this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubers are n1+ because its unscripted and in one take

[Anonymous No.]

hey uppercaser
dont even fucking talk to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819306
stfu or ill crush your windpipe
>>25819313
vtubers are n6 and you have to go back to your containment thread

[Anonymous No.]

>monogatari
trash

[Anonymous No.]

お邪魔しました

[Anonymous No.]

331
not as much as your post

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819294
For an absolute beginner, they’re both perfectly incomprehensible. It is only by the means of learning bits of Japanese words, sentences, and acquiring the ability to recognize them on their own that one passes over to the extremely wide net of partly comprehensible content.

[Anonymous No.]

331
ok snowflake

[Anonymous No.]

@25819340
maybe they shouldnt be a absolute beginner then ??? like read some tae kim and do some anki reps for 1 week and youll be able to comprehend some peppa pig

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819331
Would you rather read Stereogatari?

[Anonymous No.]

watching raw sol anime you cant understand is the easiest way for beginner retards to start acquiring the comprehensible input meme has no excuse

[Anonymous No.]

i only listen to ciarans advice

[Anonymous No.]

watching 10k hours of eng subbed anime is the only way to prepare for starting to acquire japanese without getting crippled by textbookshit
if you only do 4k hours like jamal did you might probably get fucked up though

[Anonymous No.]

https://ja.forvo.com/word/虎穴に入らずんば虎児を得ず

is quizmaster the one who requests all the sayings like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819389
just because he made it doesnt mean he did it in the most efficient way. unless you think youre doing yourself any good reading rtk and writing down chinese characters like a retard

[Anonymous No.]

bakemonogatari is hard to follow but surprisingly not many new words in there for me. mostly get the new ones from oshino

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819331
good post

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819438
donning kroger noobs always think they know best

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819458
lold

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819438
i would rather be safe than sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819448
stfu moe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819474
you're wrong every time stop trying

[Anonymous No.]

bakemonogatari is pretty good ngl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJ4ChpQANg

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819474
think hes banned lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819477
schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819474
moe is too busy acquiring japanese to post here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819481
hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819504
retard

[Anonymous No.]

didnt quizslur and his buttbuddies get btfo a few deletes ago for posting off topic garbage lol

[Anonymous No.]

I fapped to Mayoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819481
really good vid

[Anonymous No.]

Hello is this the based and redpilled thread where we talk about language learning and IQ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819529
not really there are a lot of iq and race denialists here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819523
we all do

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819538
Race might be a social construct, but there’s no way you can deny that some people are better at abstract, logical thinking than others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819510
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819551
ok, so?
language is concrete and relies less on rational thinking than it does on feeling and memory

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819529
you dont get based until you watch the libido kamen channel

[Anonymous No.]

acquired いざ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819582
i acquired いざという時 but not いざ itself

[Anonymous No.]

acquired kachiteni

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819592
they're the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819578
Isn’t that the Jewish guy who talks about how otakuism is a real religion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819574
some people are just born with talents, my dad had photographic memory and extreme arithmetic ability until late into his 40s (now he chills) for example and i suck at both memory and math
so its not hard to imagine just like that there must be people out there born with high ability in picking up language and getting used to the native feel very quickly

[Anonymous No.]

just one noob question and i'll go away: do i start anki immediately after hiragana/katakana or should i wait until i have a grasp on the fundamentals of grammar before i start drilling kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819620
hes not jewish

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819640
kanji in the morning grammar in the night

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819644
have you seen his videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819640
you can use anki for studying grammar too

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819670
yes but i dont know what jewish people look like except stereotypically

[Anonymous No.]

its funny how i only have disdain for otaku and otaku content creators despite being such a heavy consumer

[Anonymous No.]

inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.]

?

[Anonymous No.]

ロシアのあのん

ポストできなくなってるのん？

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820196

mined this the other day from tonakoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820123
i've never even met an otaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820539
most of em are in nippon but they are unironically real

[Anonymous No.]

i'm going through a vocab deck and i'm already seeing different meanings being applied elsewhere that isn't shown on the card, which has like 1 meaning. how the fuck do people learn and deal with different meanings when the fucking word has like 20 definitions in jisho and they're all like "lol usually written in kana"

[Anonymous No.]

諦めるが良い

[Anonymous No.]

why don't people do streams where they read manga
feels like itd be pretty epic and also its a pain to set up preread since ocr often fails

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820648
who would want to watch someone who needs an ocr anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820657
no thats the point you can be fairly sure people arent cheating

[Anonymous No.]

Why do anons keep warning me against coming to this thread and just stick to reading the OP?
what's wrong with you guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820677
show some posts of people warning you first

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820677
join the discord

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820696
horrible place filled with horrible people. your lot showed its true colors above a few hours ago

[Anonymous No.]

なつっぽいものたべたい

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820685
i've been told that a few times but i have to go through archives to find the posts
>>25820685
what discord?
>>25820696
what's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820731
youre fooling no one

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820748
i don't know what to tell you anon
i was just honestly curious and more so now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820677
I've been here for a few months and it seems like it's mostly for spam and gossiping about/worshiping/hating on random
"e-celebrities"

[Anonymous No.]

im pretty blessed to have been born a gaijin

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820762
shit bait
only question is if youre deliberately trolling or are actually so stupid your blunder escaped your notice

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820804
sansei

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820850
just like baseball hehehe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820821
whatever you say

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820601
just keep reading and don't worry too much about the 200 meanings of かける they'll fall into place eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820971
yeah thats what happens when you get in a scuffle with high iq guy

[Anonymous No.]

もうがまんできない

なすびほしい

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820971
so youll shamelessly carry on with the act after being called out
go spam your shit in discord if youre this bored

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820999
>just keep reading and don't worry too much about the 200 meanings of かける they'll fall into place eventually
yeah and u will end up with like 197 pieces for 197 spots that dont exist and create your own language like godfather and become really delusional u are really good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821042
There's another thread on /jp/ right now where this was being asked, lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821102
link thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821034
oh i got a nasubi for you alright

[Anonymous No.]

'ate textbooks
'ate anki
'ate study
luv me a fast scroll through tae kim
luv me some incomprehensible raw anime
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

im ngmi sad truth shit life oshimai desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25812554
no there isn't. it doesn't take only 15 seconds to pause, look the word up, process the new word in the context of the story, AND make the card. theres rewinding and other unaccounted for steps that makes it take longer too

[Anonymous No.]

>>25819636
the problem is that genetics isnt the main issue for most people who struggle with language acquisition. the problem is too much overthinking and planning and conceptualizing of the language, and too little compelling native input.

[Anonymous No.]

i quit
deleting everything
hopefully i never come back here

[Anonymous No.]

諦めるがいい

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821352
lmaoooooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820601
its easier to learn the other meanings of a word if you've already solidified one of them and learned how to read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821313
ngmi isn't a thing unless you're a normie with no time to spare or get shit advice and burn yourself out in beginner stages
it's literally just vinnie to victory after a certain point

[Anonymous No.]

So how much of these threads are dekinai coping?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821397
your post and the one above you

[Anonymous No.]

諦めなさい

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821414
and this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821384
i swear im going to close this tab today and never come back again
>>25821387
its a thing because im too tired of trying and straining so much i cant go on i never had it in me anyway lol wasted years of my life like a retard and got nowhere got nothing only struggled

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821433
can you explain the specific problems you are having with your input

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821433
あきらめな

[Anonymous No.]

>>25820601
>>25821095
>how the fuck do people learn and deal with different meanings when the fucking word has like 20 definitions in jisho and they're all like "lol usually written in kana"
anon, you've already done this countless times with your native language. there's no special shit here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821451
almost nothing in things i care about reading is i+1
this is so pathetic i cant read two paragraphs of japanese without stumbling over some totally incomprehensible jumble looking mess and even for "easy" sentences i know all the words of i sometimes fuck up the grammar and get the wrong meaning
i swear i tried so hard but now i realize was lying to myself laugh and mock me i deserve it i put my 100% in but 100% of 0 is still 0 after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821387
>it's literally just vinnie to victory after a certain point
please tell everybody what you are doing
everybody kills themself trying to go from like a 12000 card anki deck to wherever they want to be (usu 20000 or whatever) because the lack of a sense of victory/achievement/whatever is insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821557
>i deserve it
not really

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821573
reading enjoyable content while learning is the victory
anime and mangafags probably don't know this feel

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821498
being confused is natural here
the people who did this are cruel
erase all this nonsense and even putting something as dumbed down as put da thing on da ting would cause less harm

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821641
wait until you find かかる

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821634
this isnt even like the argument anon was trying to make
>reading enjoyable content while learning is the victory
hai hai soiu no iikara

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821591
its a thing in my life ive worked on just because i really liked not because anyone told me to do it or because it might be useful or for whatever other reason and they say nothing makes for stronger motivation
i had the best tools the best resources everything you need to succeed most people would agree but ive still failed hard so the problem is me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821634
when can we expect a stream from you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821641
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821726
is that your ambition, daily e-celeb thread? sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821670
i dont want 2, i already took it off
i had to download cripple creator jisho just to screen shot that jargon

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821757
nah i wont remember you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821716
you still learned some japanese you're just not where you want to be yet. if you're not willing to find easier input to work with for a while so you can build more comfort with the language instead of getting so frustrated, well that's your decision. but there are many ways for you to keep improving upon what you've learned/acquired so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821712
it sounds like he attributes accomplishment to the size of his anki deck rather than being able to consume content, which you can do with vns because of text hooking which lets you acquire vocab as you read without much effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821763
lol its just the intransitive version of かける

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821754
i dont get it, im not reading all that to figure it, if ur trying to say my english sucks or something im well aware

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821806
wow thanks mind blown
gotta go let godfather know asap

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821716
have you tried watching like 1000 hours of raw anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821833
B)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821808
"put" has a billion meanings too, but nobody sits down and tries to learn the >50 meanings of that word. You just have to learn the meanings as you read/hear them in context, you already do this naturally in your own native language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821841
he doesn't want to watch stuff he doesnt understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821878
The first part of this post sounds a bit retarded but you get the idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821781
nah its cool dude thank you but dont waste any more words on me this is the pathetic end of a failed journey you all can carry on but i think im just going to lie down here and retire for good these stupid dreams of making it are just too painful to have and retards like me cant stop hoping a little again that somehow itll work out, ive run my course i have to end it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821944
some people just prefer to suffer i guess

[Anonymous No.]

gonna make it (me)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821964
im quitting because im suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821993
and you're suffering because of unrealistic expectations

[Anonymous No.]

maybe if you read the ajatt table of contents like matt suggested...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822048
how is it unrealistic to want to read just two paragraphs

[Anonymous No.]

you are still here that means you are not even good at giving up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822134
i said ill close the tab today and im just about to go to bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822097
because you don't have anywhere near the amount of time exposed to the raw language as natives (or gaijin) who can read those "two paragraphs" without any issues. it'd be one thing if you've been immersed in native media and reading for 5,000+ hours and were still having these issues. but i bet you haven't even reached 1,000 hours of input, yet you think there's something wrong with you because you can't do what takes natives 13+ years of near nonstop exposure to the language to do, in the short amount of time that you've been at it.

[Anonymous No.]

but youre right i think im going to do one thing right in my life im going to quit now
goodbye and thank you everyone, i really hope all of you make it wishing for you is all this cripple can do
lol guess i finally did it i reached the ngmi end 眠り

[Anonymous No.]

dont care lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822239
holy BAAAASED post bro was thinkin the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822048
true story
for a (sadly) decent amount of time i set unrealistic expectations for my nihongo and everytihing went to shit, i did still progress during this time, not as much as i did prior though.
prior to this i was having a great time and effortlessly fulfilled these unrealistic expectations without even knowing them or having imposed them on myself
i blame the the hardcore cult, brainwashed me pretty bad

basically never have the thought "alright time to take my japanese seriously" cus it might backfire really fukn hard and u might end up suffering
i have no doubt loyal ajatters suffered big time nd hated it

[Anonymous No.]

communities like djt where people pretend its the norm to know the whole language in 3 years or some shit is part of why a lot of people quit or get so easily frustrated and impatient about their progress. the gag is most of the people promoting those dumb unrealistic views dont even know japanese themselves. just a bunch of retards sabotaging eachother

[Anonymous No.]

it should be pretty obvious that you cant learn a whole language that it takes natives 20 years to learn in a couple of years

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822278
good post i agree no doubt
hardcore ajatters and most anyone who thinks in extremes like them is going to have a shit time. find input you like and just get into it and stop worrying about all these expectations and speed. that will ruin the whole experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822293
its worse on the discord since they know everyone and people who are higher levels will often point out when someone who has been learning longer is supposedly worse than them

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822278
the video where matt talks about his ajatt journey (war) says it all, dude is burnt lifeless in it

[Anonymous No.]

can we even speak japanaise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822404
i might find out soon since im gonna try to call my japanese friend in a bit

[Anonymous No.]

i mean he did say he wasted years of his life on nip

if you can't even read 2 fucking paragraphs after doing that then yeah ngmi lmao
at least he learned his place, one less retard itt i say

[Anonymous No.]

おなすうりきれやってん

バナナしこたまかってきた

いただきます

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822754
i got a banana that you can siko right here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25816550
10 rice fields in the soil of 4 cliffs enclosed mouths moons cows water sprinkles days over mountains with two symmetrical sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>25816175
my name

[Anonymous No.]

ここはせかいの

はきだめ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>25816036
Mikoti...

[Anonymous No.]

>>25822496
>years of his life
we don't know exactly what he was doing with those years. it's quite possible (likely, even) for someones "years spent on japanese" to have consisted of something like-
20% doing textbook or grammar shit
30% ankidroning
40% planning or ruminating over what they "should" be doing or watching youtube videos about learning japanese
and only 10% actually getting comprehensible native input

[Anonymous No.]

>>25823239
>meanwhile KLCchads learn all relevant readings and some vocab instead of retarded "keywords" that leaves you illiterate after months of "work"

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>25823928
nice selfie faggot, here, let me upvote your blog

[Anonymous No.]

口吻

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25823939

[Anonymous No.]

宿題は難しくなさそうだから、一時間だけでやりたい
the homework doesn't seem difficult, so... ???

the first part makes perfect sense to me, but then i get lost. 一時間だ means "an hour", けど means "but/although" and やりたい　means "want to do". is that right? what's being conveyed here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25824105

have another look at the sentence, then look again at what you wrote beneath it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25824158
oh lmao thx wtf is with me today

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25824105
gonna get ur butt beat soredake

tl note: soredake means simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>25824105
そのにほんご

へん

[Anonymous No.]

>>25824323
well it's from a native but it does seem kinda... contrived? like that's not how i'd expect it to be said usually

[Anonymous No.]

>>25824352
ぜんごおしえて

かなりへんだから

[Anonymous No.]

わたしはゲイ
ただそれだけのこと

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25824352
idk when i googled it i saw the hinative link where the fuck up u made is actually in the original text where in ur post its not and now im mind fucked on waht u were even trying to do here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25821641
have you tried just feeling it out

[Anonymous No.]

today's patreon q&a day, hell yeah

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

>>25821641
luckily i just learned it from anime ftw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A99oObaTiXQ#t=41

[Anonymous No.]

calvin is like route 1 pokemon level human meat vehicle

[Anonymous No.]

>>25824983

this should be the de facto response to any 掛ける question

[Anonymous No.]

Does nobody here find it embarrassing to accept having been into changing their customary posting style over to lowercasing solely for the sake of pleasing one poster who does not really know Japanese despite having spent over 20 years learning it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825200
no because i didnt do that

[jamal input !l08I6k8X8M No.]

no need to be a sore loser someones gotta be 1ban tuyoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825250
Tsuyogari na jinkaku ga attemo hitoshii na nouryoku ga nakereba doukeshi no you na mono ni shika mienai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825540
>hitoshii na
omaemoda

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825540
Why would anybody write a sentence in romanized Japanese with spaces?

[Anonymous No.]

just droppin by to mention that kingdom is so god DAMN sick. it gets good at 20-25 tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825697
the anime is really good too its just a shame that the cg is the worst ive ever seen for the first 3 seasons. it's actually incredibly jarring when they switch between the two. season 4 looks to be better in that regard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825713

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825771
>bipoc
Is this a new acronym, or at least one that's only been getting pushed recently? I'm seeing it everywhere all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.]

たまにはゲームする

３Ｄができないのはつらい

ようんです

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825697
https://youtu.be/sWmfYj1zdHw?t=599

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825844
男と女のラブゲーム

[Anonymous No.]

dear djt.
today i deinstalled matts "low key anki" addons and i didnt know i missed the "hard" button so much.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIoILN_KrhU

[Anonymous No.]

>>25825886
かぐやさまは

あれ

あたしはおもしろくはない

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/8J6_EQA5TVk
the amakouinta rabbit hole goes really far lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>playing old gbasp games
>everything is in kana

will this hinder comprehension in the long run? i have 4 games to finish

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826086
>>25826101
thanks, ill soldier through it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826111
i dont believe that story

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826537
yes and 売女 means a woman who buys all her clothes on sale

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826865
Why not just admit that all women are annoying and have weird issues instead of keeping on fooling yourself into believing that ugly bitches will somehow be nicer than pretty-looking girls?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826895
i used that radical because its the one i gave up on I just couldnt picture that shit on my mind, none of it makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

i dont need to remember the turtle kanji
i can just feel it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826907
that way of thinking sounds more incel to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826993
t. so ignorant of the way east asian people age that he has to compare them against whyppo to get an idea of how old someone is

[Anonymous No.]

do you think that japan will be more strict to letting foreigners in after abe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827196
we should say 黄熱

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827196
whats next after japan?
indonesia? taiwan? turkey?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827272
https://youtu.be/CLyq6H0JWv0
korea
honestly still kinda want to switch

[Anonymous No.]

if 20k vocab is my endgame target, what percent of that vocab is comprised only of the 2,136 jouyou kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827322
why even set a target at all? just read, nigga
literally just text hook a vn and keep going until you find that you never find any new words to add, or until they just stick after seeing them in context a few times
fucking around with anki milestones gets you nowhere but on the ngmi dekinai train

[Anonymous No.]

'ate anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827322
at 20k you haven't even started haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827524
he sucks at it so much that he cant read a kids story without the aid of a tutor (despite the fact korean doesnt use any hanja) and doesnt even understand spongebob dubbed, but claims he’s just fluent because he can cut around corners and say everything he feels like he needs to know how to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827322
20k is not your endgame target that's barely the fluency of a middle schooler not even being ironic

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827428
>>25827438
>>25827543
20k isn't really my endgame target but i'm just trying to get a jist of what portion of commonly used vocab is covered by jouyou. i know from experience that learning new vocab with familiar kanji is super easy and really a great experience overall so i'm curious how much of that i have in my future once i've acquired those 2k kanji. trying to give myself something to look forward to

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827619
until i got there it felt like an epic quest to get at least one reading for every jouyou kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827619
it really depends on what exactly youre reading. if youre reading piss-easy vns and lns you might find lots of the secondary school level kanji words (like 憚る) with furigana and lots of words written in half-hiragana half-kanji (like 簒奪 as さん奪), but if youre reading more historical or fantasy stuff, you might find a bit more rare words, a few of which might have rare kanji, and if youre reading literary-ish stuff, you might find rare kanji variants for common words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827879
none of those could debate on japanese politics in japanese as far as im aware

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827963
guess i was fluent after core 6k and never knew it

[Anonymous No.]

i’m gonna set my max new cards to 0 for a couple of days because i’m not remembering the shit i already learned. ngmi or gmi?

[Anonymous No.]

any tricks to remembering verb pronunciations

words with one kanji for three mora are extremely difficult to remember
to me it's all like randomly generated sounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828233
>>25827322
same guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828293
why would you defile my post with that vocaroo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828366
> The word itself derives through Old French from the Latin word mansio "dwelling"
you wouldnt call a straw hut a “mansion”, would you?

[Anonymous No.]

i dont understand the appeal of v-tubers, someone please fill me in

[Anonymous No.]

wait wtf this is nothing like 女中 in my japanese cartoons

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828584
>no mature cards were studied today

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828623
tango N5, 25 per day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828623
>15 cards per day seems kinda low for rtk
whats the point of going higher than that if anon is still gonna have to wait like another year or so till theyve acquired words wilth all of those 2.2k kanji?
might as well just go at 10 cards per day so they can match their pace to doing core10k

[Anonymous No.]

day 5 of my switch to otacard update:
i had a good run but i dont think this language is for me
will be deleting anki and giving up on learning japanese
waiting for subs aint that bad honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828677
i'm a beginner, i've only got like 70 mature cards total

[Anonymous No.]

sorry i dont get this joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828300
これをちゃんとこたえられるあのんがいたら

あたしのポストをよんでいたひとだよ

[Anonymous No.]

otacards are a meme just like sentence cards
imagine how many calvins could get saved if we told them to do kanjidamage instead of that other shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828707
bye
>>25828797
vocab cards aren't a meme they're the norm

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828680
ok cus 500/30 = around 17, i guess you haven't studied the whole month yet.

doing anki for over an hour is going to burn you out quick.

i suggest increasing interval modifier, and using this tool (optimizer section) to find the optimal new cards/ interval modifier

https://pheartheceal.github.io/anki-optimizer/

[Anonymous No.]

>2 hours of anki every single day

[Anonymous No.]

WE WUZ 召使い N SHIEET

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828848
just switch to vocab cards already you'll get them done 3 times faster

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828834
Yeah it's only been about three weeks or so

thanks for the advice and the link, that looks really useful

[Anonymous No.]

atheism man coined the word back in the 1970s
the concept itself is older and is called “ideology” in political discourse

[Anonymous No.]

https://streamable.com/l2c2ay

[Anonymous No.]

damn the nig from black panther died

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828951
lol at the two japanese dictionaries he has on his bookmarks tab and the google translate addon despite also having yomichan installed, and the one nhentai tab right at the corner
im seriously feeling like none of this shit is real.

[Anonymous No.]

once you reach intermediate level which agf is at 1 dictionary just doesnt cut it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829072
but was he kangz n shiet

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829113
long live the kang

[Anonymous No.]

>>25828951
lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

retards have discovered cure dolly's comment section

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829176
they were always there
you mightve just not noticed them before

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1299514769959841792

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829176
watchu mean? post screencaps

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829155
mature cards i do in seconds, new ones i read out each syllable and the meaning in my head
i'll probably get faster eventually, just a few months in

[Anonymous No.]

Yuru Yuri is one of the most boring shows i've ever seen

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829255
you lack soul

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829255
for real. the yuri aspect doesn't even make sense or add anything but somehow i think that's the only thing that stopped it from being lost in the garbage bin of generic seasonal anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829283
fuck escapism we reading essay集 bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829363
it was fun to watch

you should've ignored qm's fanboys and just kept playing it

[Anonymous No.]

how can i translate 関連を調べる here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829582
maybe if you used anki and yomichan...

[Anonymous No.]

imagine what jamal looks like in real life

[Anonymous No.]

imagine how different your life would possibly be if your dad nutted one second earlier or later

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829225

[Anonymous No.]

>>25830185
is this person an esl i literally don't understand what they're trying to express

[Anonymous No.]

>>25830525
probably not a schizo but definitely an autist

[Anonymous No.]

>>25830643
??

[Anonymous No.]

>>25830684
くさそ

[Anonymous No.]

cure dolly r34 when
also i want her that granny futa cock in my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>25830836
i will pray for you brother

[Anonymous No.]

you dont know japanese unless you answer my page 7 question 4 homework for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831375
hahahaha ひったくったな

[Anonymous No.]

>>25827605
>>25827645
>>25827684
no. that kind of 語彙力 doesn't come from anki it comes from input. you will end up like qm if you try to memorize all those words in anki. only use anki till your amount of lookups is cut down to a comfortable level then just keep getting input indefinitely and your vocab will keep growing steadily

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831436
Whats wrong with being like quiz?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829723
i wonder if they fixed the eigo for the anime ver

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829255
yea it sucks ass. bottom of the barrel cgdct there are so many better options

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that natives find it cringe when foreigners force using kanji in words that are usually in kana

[Anonymous No.]

dont care about natives

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831781
no they just think you're a tryhard gaijin wanting to show off

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831873
>don't you hit that fucking spacebar

[Anonymous No.]

757
dont worry natives dont care about you either

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831877
were you in the group reading stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>finally done with japshit for the day
TIME TO PLAY SOME FUCKING GAMES HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831969
waste of time learning all of it, just do the 1 - 3 key vocab per kanji and get it done in 5 months
RTKucks spend months learning just the keywords, not even meanings

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831966
they better be in japanese or ur ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831986
you talk a lot of shit but i'm wondering if you can back it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832008
no, i've pirated wasteland 3
i spend literally all day, every day on japanese. 12 hours now, might stay up for 6 and play vidya

[Anonymous No.]

>RTKucks spend months learning just the keywords, not even meanings
thats because kanji are not words
disclaimer - i do not approve of rtk or any other similar method

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832015
seems kinda ゲイ to be interested in seeing if another man can back that thang up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832069
it's even more gay hanging on another man's nuts all day

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832069
>69
this is an epic post

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832068
that's the point, it's literally a waste of time. you don't learn anything other than being able to make mnemonics
with kklc at least you can say you know the kanji and several words using each of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832000
You don't want to learn important vocabulary items such as 火田? Jokes aside, though, I need the extra reinforcement to get readings to stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832097
good thing i dont do that than haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832015
oh i'm sorry you're all butthurt about facts but no one needs to prove anything to see that he was bumbling like a gaijin retard lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832111
if anything kklc is worse since it wants you to memorize more
its way better to memorize words that just so happens to contain kanji rather than 'learning' a kanji along side a bunch of words one doesnt know yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832160
you don't remember the kanji with rtk, you just think you do. you can just study radicals for the exact same effect, except it takes 30 minutes instead of 1 - 3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>あんまりハメはずすなよ
>"What the hell? Is he telling his students not to fuck too much over summer vacation?"
>"oh"

[Anonymous No.]

>>25831966
https://youtu.be/xwFASZKhHC8

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832226

>>25832046

[Anonymous No.]

just biked the fastest 10k in a while
now im gonna pick a bunkobon i put on hold like 2 months ago back up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832181
rtk doesn't teach you kanji readings or all the meanings of a kanji or even any japanese as you might like to put it
but saying
>you don't remember the kanji with rtk, you just think you do
in terms of production and recognition of the individual glyphs is such an incredibly stupid statement it's hard to take it seriously
also, rtk does not just use radicals, it uses a primitive system

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832225
>clearly you know don't know anything about kklc
i will not deny that since the only thing i did to start reading and watching was like 1k premade word cards in anki
>>25832217
why? because you said so?
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832316
trust me dude i am your 先輩 drop kklc and just watch and read the stuff you want obliviously while looking up stuff you dont understand once in a while

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832344
i think no one would make it so talking about it is moot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832369
i might at some point in the next year if people want it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832379
either way, the kindle reader for pc easily lets you make anki cards
i don't think anyone's shared the files anywhere yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832392
why not make a small group and split the work, could get it done in just a few weeks with minimum individual effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832403
easier to remember what happened in an anime than a page of a book

when you can connect stories and experiences to kanji/vocab that is how you remember and learn

kklc is shite my boy, that's why rtk is also better

[Anonymous No.]

quiz revolutionized japanese learning with his animecards method but apparently some of you guys can’t get over that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832419
Yeah I guess that's what I'd have to use. I was wrong about his website anyway. I looked a little further and he only sells pdfs for the first 3 books. Thanks for letting me know about it, it looks very useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832448
true

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832403
>that haphazardly encountering and looking up new words through reading
you do know that context clues give away the meaning of words most of the time right

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832448
relabeled and namestamped what was already out there from years very revolutionary yes

[Anonymous No.]

wtf is this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832482
irrelevant to the argument

[Anonymous No.]

apparently posting nukechan's 嫁の写真 is instant ban

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832444
where is the evidence that learning words in an arbitrary order but from anime contexts is better than learning words in kklc order/any systematic kanji compound order via example sentence contexts

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832659
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330825027_Memorization_A_Proven_Method_of_Learning
read

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832680
stop being lazy and type a proper reply or don't bother at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832695
do you happen to have dark pigment

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832721
irrelevant but no

[Anonymous No.]

>>25817823
It's just a normal-ass ending. I enjoyed it but didn't care enough to play the alternative routes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826055
worse
>playing mario tennis gba (story mode)
>fucking unreadable kanji
no ocr or poor handwriting attempt works with them, fuck this gay earth

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832832
okay show a single instance of people capturing anime audio on the same level as sharex enables so no broken shit like subs2srs i'm waiting

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832852
audacity has always existed

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

anime cards are actuallly revolutionary put so many learners on the right track

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832957
true

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832936
exactly. thus, rtk and high quality context sentences/vocab will always be the superior way of learning.

kklc is soulless and bland with premade mnemonics and order that will be much less effective comparatively in learning and memorization.

[Anonymous No.]

theres no point in adding audio/images to a card since, if your imagination is still strong enough, you should be able to recall the full context for a word through a transcription of the sentence where you spotted it.
if you have aphantasia, then i guess youre just fucked and nothing will be able to fix your problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832956
bottom right is the only qt here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833025
>新人がこれからよろしくね
can you even say that also isnt the keigo ぐちゃぐちゃ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832830
Do the key vocab and select one sentence for each. If it's too much, you can just add the sentences to the back of the vocab cards as an example of the word used in context instead of as a separate card.

You can also just read the graded sets alongside your KKLC progress on your phone whenever you feel like it. Using KKLC shouldn't be that much work. I finished it in about 5 or so months doing 13 kanji a day and all the key vocab, which was around 4500 since I did all the vocab for the first 50 kanji as well.

KKLC by itself is more than enough to get a good grasp on everything. I think it's a mistake doing the full 9k+ vocab, which will definitely be unreasonable to do at a solid pace since you'd end up doing 50+ vocab a day on top of the kanji if you did more than 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833139
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833242
>>25833262
>>25832956
BOTTOM LEFT FOR ME

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/TgRte6oSoF8
only good matt vid out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833274
good taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833277
it was so bad he's set it to private lol

[Anonymous No.]

For people doing KKLC, I notice that it only has essential vocabulary marked starting at kanji 51. What did you do regarding the vocab for the first 50 kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833257
quizmaster has 21k audio cards and still pronounces japanese words with a thick german accent so i dont think its really helping him that much

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833277
didn't watch, kklc is better than rtk even if you just want to use the rtk approach
>general meanings instead of keywords
>much more logical order
>has mnemonics for 2300 kanji
>non-retarded radicals
>doesn't have retarded prose and vocabulary from like 1963

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833355
it doesn't help in speaking. for that you need obvious practice and awareness of pitch, and phonetics study which he still neglects to this day.

qm doesn't even put pitch information in most of his cards lol

it does give you the ability to understand spoken japanese tho, which im sure he can do.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/SZwTBJVthhM
my recs are filled with these now and i still love/hate it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833380
>kklc is better than rtk
lol

kanji takes the key flaw with rtk and makes it 1000x worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833474
yes it's almost like you're not suppose to halfass it lmao, GOTTA GO FAST

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833350
pick 1 - 3. the 7200 decks pick for you, but you'll end up deleting around 3000 cards manually if you only want to do the key vocab
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1624275678

[Anonymous No.]

kklc guy is a misinformation agent

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833537
neck yourself, miafag, matt's cock is occupied

[Anonymous No.]

problem with rtk: it's too fast
your brain requires much longer time to learn kanji than 90 days
just look at japanese: it take them years to learn all the joyo kanji.
it is better to emulate the japanese in everything than listen to some foreigner like heisig

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833565
your entire existence is meaningless lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833583
>rtk
>learn
pick one

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833598
i took ritalin a few times and it just made me really horny

[Anonymous No.]

rtk order is much better than kklc's
ordering by components is much easier to remember

>>25833640
you learn how to write and recall kanji. plus you create a mental framework for learning vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.]

think its time to drain the swamp

if you arent learning/acquiring from media alone just leave

[Anonymous No.]

qm’s accent is fucked up in all sorts of ways, not just in regards to p****.

[Anonymous No.]

why use words at all their meanings overlap anyway just jiggle your hairy man tits in grug talk instead LMFAOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833691
you forgot the alcohol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833759
the guy literally says he ordered it in a way that makes it easier to read japanese. which means he favors frequency rather than components.

[Anonymous No.]

feels good to see beginners crippling each other

[Anonymous No.]

acquisition doesnt happen when you look at a word and remember its meaning
it happens when youve seen something so much that you just know it and know when to use it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833904
dont like rtk but didnt nuke do some bastardized version

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833803
you can literally break down any kanji after around 400 in klc

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833935
he put in a bunch of japanese hint words on the front of his cards which he completely ignored for the sake of concentrating on the rtk keyword

[Anonymous No.]

rtk kills 2 birds with one stone
people underestimate how hard it is to learn to write kanji without this system. if you ever want to learn to write kanji you just have to do rtk.

learning to recognize kanji comes naturally as you learn vocab

the skill of creating mnemonics and having the primitives in your brain is extremely useful as you come across new kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834013
theres no point in adding audio clips to cards if youre not gonna do mirroring with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834030
intermediate is just an excuse for saying we hate people who ask stuff about grammar that comes up in tae kim or dojg or who ask about shit that appears in the dictionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834042
alright bro i want to see you learn to understand spoken japanese by only reading
having audio is better than not having it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834037
here come the 'otaku' bunch to tear you into pieces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833932
or when you correctly feel what a new word means upon your first encounter with it because you’re following the context so well that it just falls into place

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834059
intermediate also means you know the jouyou and can read them in 6-7k words

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834062
if you wanna do listening practice listen to some raw audio instead of listening over and over to the same audio clip on the back of a flashcard where youve got the transcription for it

[Anonymous No.]

theres a higher chance of jamal becoming literate than mary fixing his pronunciation by next year lol

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/TgRte6oSoF8?t=1798

watch from this point

[Anonymous No.]

can you just post an example of this terrible accent you are talking about? i want to hear it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834016
welcome

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834152
>jamal is literate and reads way faster than anyone else itt
not even close

[Anonymous No.]

does tobira guy have a younger sister?
has he given her the big bone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834265
not true at all there are several who are pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834265
too bad hes a massive shitposter

[Anonymous No.]

maybe if quiz stanned hololive his accent wouldnt be so bad

[Anonymous No.]

what does stanned mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834398
you know what to do boys
ミッションスタート

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834405
it means be a gay zoomer faggot

[Anonymous No.]

this place is so damn negative and competitive all the time even if you eventually “make it” while frequenting here you’ll barely even enjoy this shit anymore
all the pure newbies like john should probably just leave and find a friendlier and more supportive place to discuss your journey because almost no one here really wants you to succeed or have fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834423
if you need a support group for free to make it you're pretty stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834423
>ouchie my pussy hurts

[Anonymous No.]

I hope this kind of post is allowed in here, but here's something really cool I discovered while learning kanji. In the anime No Game No Life the brother is 空（そら）and the sister is 白（しろ）, when you put them together like 空白 it's read as くうはく meaning blank space. Hence "together we are blank". I wonder if they chose the names specifically for this.

It's probably not that interesting, just wanted to share >___<

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834484
instead of complaining just go over there no one is making you stay here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834501
No one is making you stay in this personal hell, but here you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834506
the difference is im not complaining about it retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834528
I'm not complaining about it, I'm calling it a hivemind circlejerk, which is an objective observation. You're projecting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834621
i need said it was a shithole here those were both from you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834484
Those Japanese language learning subforums on reddit, etc., all reference itazura for resources and guides and with the amount of normalfags in DJT now, the only real difference is that 4chan is designed for discussion, unlike those link aggregation designed sites (reddit, twitter, etc.).
If you probe around Google, itazura is being used by language learning communities all around the web, across various language demographics. It is likely the result of the new owner directly referencing DJT on the site with the discord link to Mary's circlejerk that the thread itself has seen heavy backwash from shitholes like that reddit subforum over the past handful of months. The old owner explicitly removed references to DJT and 4chan from the site to prevent this mess but that went to shit when he gave the site to a literal redditor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834622
>the only difference is i might know japanese
There's a higher likelihood of your years worth of inane spam being a Truman Show style joke and not a sign of genuine untreated mental illness. Either way, bookies aren't going to bet against those odds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834622
what are they doing wrong? not listening enough? not actually feeling the language?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834644
Doesn't seem like you have a solid grasp on the English language.
>the difference is im not complaining about it retard
This implies that while you see how deeply disturbed this general is, you, unlike me (which was a projection on your part to begin with), don't complain about it. Wouldn't the difference be that you like it, not that you don't complain about how bad the thread is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834325
a post claiming to be him read a difficult text really well, but some people claim that was quiz with a voice changer

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834749
give me 8 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834622
i'd rather be good at reading japanese than being able to flow with it while outputting if that's what you mean

[Anonymous No.]

Is this sentence grammatically correct?
友達の町に遊びに行くます

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834801
this feels like a trick question

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834801
○

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834813
Thanks
>>25834836
How is it useless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834831
definitely not. if that's what you were thinking don't bother with outputting. it won't help you at all, and all it can do is give you bad habits

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone itt post on other forums for japanese i need to find a new one

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834884
nobody here is capable
maybe ciaran could totally surpass him if he wanted to in like a years time but he doesn't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834801
i think you meant to post this in int

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834897
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834801
>5 yous
good job, anon

[Anonymous No.]

why do people believe ciarans stories for all we know he could just be an autist whos good at lying

[Anonymous No.]

Rapes Matt's teaching with one single video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J4id5jnEo8

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/3U_Z1dk9Rl8?t=980
the more of this girl i watch the sadder i feel for her
japanese tv is still weird to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835435
i think he's talking about the gay anal crack stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835229
why believe in what anyone says for all we know it would all be lies
but for something to be a lie it needs a truth to be different from
therefore it would seem that truth is a 'default' which then means it is reasonable to assuming something is true unless it contradicts something else which is assumed to be true

[Anonymous No.]

is matt a virgin?

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

どんなときでもぎゅうにゅうだぞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835664
naw leave that shit as a cooking ingredient only

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835713
better start watching them animes boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835826
no wonder hes called yoga

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835713

[Anonymous No.]

where the FUCK is the q&a video

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836270
better to do it then regret it later

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836211
Thank you, anon. I am just retarded I guess, but this has clarified a lot. appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836390
learn to use this:
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1213145732

and start mining my friend
https://streamable.com/3fehlt

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836423
>mia dictionary
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835885
>cm
child molestation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836624
>didst
mined

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836678
im native

[Anonymous No.]

>>25835664
i got some gyuunyuu for you right here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836691
i got some
*puts foot up ass*
for you right here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836706
milken that prostate mmhmmm

[Anonymous No.]

*flips through hamlet*
i just understand it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836724
hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836724

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836786
yeah especially when he says jamal is better than him lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

so if you see for instance 味方 do you just recognize the overall word? or do you recognize each kanji separately? for pretty much every word I just know it overall and don't think about each kanji on its own. is this fine or should i do rtk ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836827
do kklc

[Anonymous No.]

japanese isnt chinese so i dont see the point of trying to learn the "real meaning" for kanji on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836827
the end goal is to recognize it as one independent and indivisible chunk which you don't have to think about to process, but while learning compound kanji words it is helpful to use semantic hints from the individual kanji and associate them with the meaning of the entire word
repeated exposure in input context will make the process automatic and before long you will stop thinking about the components separately

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836932
how long have you been learning japanese for

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836968
ok yeah that's pretty much how I do most compounds words, I wasn't sure if it was better to to that or think about them separately

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836968
>>25837023
mixedcasing? cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837091
RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837132
the caps key isnt going to compensate for your shit english

[Anonymous No.]

hey vocabfags how many cards are you all adding per day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837174
20

[Anonymous No.]

anime is like a beacon of light in this dark world

[Anonymous No.]

feels good leaving dekinais in the dust

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837339
you think 20 is too little for a neet doing this literally all day? im currently at almost 4k if it helps

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837394
nah, it's better to keep it between 15 and 20 because anymore and you're doing too much anki

if you're a neet you can be grinding content which is better for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837394
if youre grinding all day long then you should be doing at least 300 unironically

[Anonymous No.]

What's is the proper way to conjugate godan verbs ending with う?

I kind of confuse.
it is like this?
思った
or like this?
思いますした

i know one is formal and the other dont, but what's is the logic of putting the い or った_

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834254
You know people use scripts and retakes in their native tongue too dumbass lmao

Of course Dogen's good but even good people mess up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837439
思う
思った
思います
思いました
>but what's is the logic of putting the い or った
What's the logic of putting "ed" in "stopped"? It's just the way the language works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837174
15

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837502
No. I need babies to baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837539
then go breastfeed in /int/

[Anonymous No.]

>>25834760
wasn't his thick accent instantly recognizable?
still waiting for an example

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837442
>Of course Dogen's good
huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837604
haaah?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837174
5

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837442
he just sounds unnatural

[Anonymous No.]

this is an intermediate thread please visit the thread on /int/ to get your beginner questions answered

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837670
that wannabe villain isn't the final boss

[Anonymous No.]

>help a retard
>retard is so retarded he doesn't even (you) you right
lmfao get cucked titty guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837786
I'm still satisfied

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836992
2 years. looked through both kklc and kanjidamage early on, but didnt feel convinced by either of them, since the keywords very often align with the meaning of one word that uses kanji rather than with the kanji itself.
eventually i just ended up realizing it made more sense to learn words, since knowing a single character's meaning doesnt always help that much in guessing the meaning of words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837824
>knowing a single character's meaning doesnt always help that much in guessing the meaning of words
>2 years
checks out

[Anonymous No.]

dunno what that podcast is but i think itd be funny if it was hosted by a guy named moe

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837841
is it because i still dont have enough experience and havent gotten to the stage where i can guess the chinese thinking behind compound-formation or is it because im too deep into flashcarding and reading to care about learning isolated kanji?

[Anonymous No.]

819
dont care lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837862
>Premieres in 19 hours
why did you betray me like this

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_EQDtpYSNM

This man says "Fuck your anki decks" Is he right? Is input the way to go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837913
its because you don't have enough vocab exposure to realize how useful semantic hints from individual kanji can be for learning new kanji compound words (or for simply guessing their meanings if need be) in enough cases to warrant a study of basic kanji meanings

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837913
2 years in is the mount chimborazo of the dunning-kruger range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838000
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837968
he sounds awful
enough for me to not trust him

[Anonymous No.]

>Although Nuke has lived in Japan for 15 years, he wasn’t studying Japanese the entire time
>There were periods of times when he only participated in online language forums and didn’t personally study, and there were times where the study method he used was not effective.
lmao 15 years and this おっさん still isn't fluent

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837987
if theres a word that uses a single kanji on its own like 撃つ or 枝, then it can be regarded as the "meaning" by default for the word.
and if there isnt, ill just assume its a chink word ill never get to see.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope this kind of post is allowed in here, but here's something really cool I discovered while learning kanji. In the anime No Game No Life the brother is 空（そら）and the sister is 白（しろ）, when you put them together like 空白 it's read as くうはく meaning blank space. Hence "together we are blank". I wonder if they chose the names specifically for this.

It's probably not that interesting, just wanted to share >___<

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838073
is this copypasta?

[Anonymous No.]

uwaaaaa
i didnt know that
sugoiii!! o_O

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838016
and the mauna kea of the dunning-kruger range is the 6 year point, which is where matt made his 3 hour long ajatt video

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838073
post this one (1) more time

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837304
mojidoorini boku

[Anonymous No.]

>>25836423
why would you need to mine 遺品 you should already know this from 遺体

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838239
not me

[Anonymous No.]

>dude you gotta learn isolated kanji's meanings and study chinese grammar and stuff so you can understand how words like 芝居 work
no thx

[Anonymous No.]

>turf live
wtf??

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838302
the two things were said by different posters are you ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837968
i remember this guy first guy who i watched about jp before i started

[Anonymous No.]

味: taste
方: direction, person
味方: mate
????

[Anonymous No.]

>>25829176
I know I have! But I haven't posted anything on it yet. I actually came here specifically to ask if what she says is any good

[Anonymous No.]

are cure dollys kinoko videos good immersion content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838432
yes but what youre gonna immerse in is not japanese but rather in elsagate-type videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838000
that's where i am but i think im pretty humble
wonder when i will actually get good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838432
dont watch those it kills brain cells and chips away the soul

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838399
http://gogen-allguide.com/mi/mikata.html
Ateji, apparently

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838453
youll feel like youre good at jap as soon as you notice how much you suck at other stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838453
no i am more humble than you

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838399
昇: rise up
天: heavens
昇天: ascension into heaven
????

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838482
lmao like what

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838502
youre not smart enough to realize how dumb you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838506
idk just try to remember stuff you wanted to do back when you were a kid but ended up never accomplishing

[Anonymous No.]

lol i can do this too
鋼steel
鉄iron
鋼鉄steel

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838497
>cherrypicks a rare example of a word that makes sense in both ancient chinese and english
>uses it to try to btfo the idea that learning isolated kanji's meanings isn't useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838565
the point is anyone can come up with exceptions but that doesn't prove shit, you have to look at the overall trends and the fact is there are enough words where knowing the individual kanji meanings makes the word meaning obvious or at least very easy to remember that learning kanji meaning becomes worth the effort and pays off if you're going to stick with this language
>>25837987

[Anonymous No.]

i lost my boner for japanese ever since that post about how its just retarded chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838684
Can you find that post?

[Anonymous No.]

it's almost a year since i spoke japanese for the first time
i was stuttering and shit and knew exactly how bad i sounded

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838721
more self awareness than quiz

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838742
i mean quiz couldn't speak for shit freely
doesnt seem to mean anything to him so its fine tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838898
you could tell he was decoding not reading also the accent

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838934
orange and orange sound more similar to each other than fuu sui sounds like feng shui

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838921
if youre stuttering and fucking up literal n10 words like いちばん then embarrassingly going back to the start of the line and repeating like an autist only to humiliate yourself again then yes you can't read aloud for shit lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838928
>>25838963
i see so can you post the video you are talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838980
i dont save cringey trash on my pc but im sure someone has that streamable link jamal does for sure as he posted it earlier

[Anonymous No.]

>>25839013
do you have like a minute of reading? i saw a streamable where a word is misread but it has like 3 words of reading

[Anonymous No.]

just found the word 浮き彫り, yet another example of why one shouldnt expect to accurately guess a word's meaning from that of its components

[Anonymous No.]

>>25839124
you can spend all your life cataloguing exceptions no ones gives a shit about just dont blogpost about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25839296
that's the video everyone is talking about? i think there is too little to tell

[Anonymous No.]

>>25839390
nah hes a stupid old fart going senile though and he probably wants to skid his pants real bad rn so whaddya expect lol

[Anonymous No.]

oohh kakkoi w

[Anonymous No.]

>>25839390
>that's the video everyone is talking about?
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>25838934
and latin words too

[Anonymous No.]

miss dotd guy

[Anonymous No.]

ngmi (never gonna make it)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25840607
ok retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25840301
thats from the japanese translation of the sequel to the work that defined loliconism.

[Anonymous No.]

intermediate just means learners can fuck off.
this is the offtopic eceleb worship thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25840878
yeaa bro u tell them !!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25840473
my favroite post in this thread, the irony is real. drunk btw

[Anonymous No.]

i cant believe jamal is married

[Anonymous No.]

i lmfaod so hard here

[Anonymous No.]

>>25841567
the common man dies and goes to isekai paradise. fuck yeah

[Anonymous No.]

https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
how good are you bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>25841828
>breasts too big and prominent to be modest but too small to have my dick buried inside of during paizuri
>arms too thick to be thin but also not really morbidly obese
>lips i dunno just makes me think of like raw fish or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>25841910
i dunno dude i just prefer this sort of illustrations

[Anonymous No.]

>>25841874

[Anonymous No.]

seriously somebody tell me how to start outputting. will i really be able to output if i keep consuming? in the same way that pigs evacuate their bursting guts and roll around in it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842006
producing language actually requires having a reason to say something, which you’ll never get if you spend every single day of your life in your room all alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842066
so theres no way then

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842006
sorry dude nobody knows japanese here you'll have to ask somewhere else

[Anonymous No.]

>yea bro just go out there and get the coughies

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842006
you need to practice outputting if you want to be any good at it. having at least decent comprehension is a great starting however.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842212
quizmaster has this figured out you should ask him

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842006
>in the same way that pigs evacuate their bursting guts and roll around in it?
buta john has this figured out you should ask him

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842212
>someone to pretend to listem to and not correct all my mistakes
マット殿 already debunked this

[Anonymous No.]

matt literally cant speak japanese to 10% of his ability in english

[Anonymous No.]

i remember the one chat log qm posted in japanese was the one where he was chatting with a chinese woman learning japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842401
lol do you have it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842584
false but your post is exactly my point so theres no need to go on

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842603
think very carefully about what you said until you realize the implication. for someone to realize just exactly how dumb they are, they'd have to be able to take a birds eye view of higher scope than they are capable by definition.
i'm not the anon you replied to earlier just wanted to be autistic about semantics

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842670
if they existed we would all be fluent by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842693
there have to be at least a handfull with so many people living in tokyo having nothing better to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842693
very true lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842705
we are talking about a people that self isolated way before corona was a thing. theres just not enough competition on jp youtube for the quality level to match that of the west.

[Anonymous No.]

finished my anki reps and took a huge shit pic related
today is going to be a good day
may the nihango gains be plentiful

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842670
Sakura Miko
Hoshimachi Suisei
Shirakami Fubuki
Minato Aqua
Ookami Mio
Nekomata Okayu
Inugami Korone
Usada Pekora
Uruha Rushia
Houshou Marine
Kiryu Coco
Tsunomaki Watame
Tokoyami Towa

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842622
yea i don't care and i dont need to think hard or carefully about it because i am absolutely, unequivocally correct
there are plenty of retards who know theyre fucking stupid maybe they have an official iq test result with "terminally braindead" written over it or they dropped out of high school or they cant even hold jobs in retail whatever they have access to some form of objective and concrete metric which demonstrates their retardom but they also happen to have enough self awareness and ability to digest their mental evaluation and understand that theyre bottom of the barrel trash in society
does that awareness make them any less of a retard? lmfao no
sort of like the idiot who gets a 0 on the math test he knows hes dumb as fucking bricks
your "semantics" game is naive and fails to incorporate the notion of scope in the application of the definition

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842670
Tsukino Mito

[Anonymous No.]

you weren't talking about their ability to realize _that_ they're dumb, you said they couldn't realize _how_ dumb they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842806
he said good not this vtuber crap

[Anonymous No.]

Ｖはもう

ヤのシになってる

[Anonymous No.]

anybody who agrees that rival gaijin who insist you submit yourself to the antiquated confuscian values of japan and talk like a puff in front of your superiors are gay say "hai!"

[Anonymous No.]

しゅくだいはやくうつさなきゃ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843078
shove a katana up your asshole you dumbfag illiterate shitstain i dont care you dont care i dont care no one cares i wouldnt even care if you killed yourself and your dumb whore of a mum
someone is replying so i will continue to reply and i ALONE will decide when i stop so better get that through your thick fucking n6 skull you sewer dwelling rodent

[Anonymous No.]

not gonna read your post if its more than 2 lines
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843245
>not gonna read your post
i called you illiterate for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843205
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843263
says the retard with a one word vocab lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843289
thats 4 words

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843332
oh are you trying to show off your immense word knowledge now
lol we got a double dekinai scrabble champ here quick call nhk!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843364
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843400
lol i come back half an hour later and he's still feverishly repeating the same demented chant
i wouldnt even have you shine my shoes lest you get your filthy sped drool over me, thats how much i care about what insects like you have to say

i can already picture that gawking retarded face with which youre making these stupid cope posts utterly overwhelmed and flustered hahaha but too bad i dont have all night to play with a dumb sperg
just know i'll always be snickering down at your pathetic struggle to come up with more than a few stock words to reply with, felt good stamping you out going to have a lovely sleep now while you sniffle and suck your thumb lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25843876
>>25842622

[Anonymous No.]

>>25837174
3

[Anonymous No.]

>>25844232
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

いまいそがしいの

ぜんぜんしゅくだいおわんない

[Anonymous No.]

get your days watched up

[Anonymous No.]

>>25845775
a dumb shitposting midget

[Anonymous No.]

why r discords always so cringe and low iq?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25846276
it's not particular to discords, it's just the human condition. even an iq of 115 is low, objectively speaking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25842799
i'm jelly, have been constipated for two weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

feel like flirting with some small youtube channel busu in the comments again

[Anonymous No.]

>>25846577
omg dont

[Anonymous No.]

can I learn jap working full time as a soft Dev?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25846776
wageslaving and nip fit together the same way fish and milk do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25846827
or going on djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>25847188
this is the real deal. godspeed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25847216
are you ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>25847216
?

[Anonymous No.]

しゅくだいがおわらない

[Anonymous No.]

>>25847537

[Anonymous No.]

>>25848045
天の使い

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/ED-kdgPsnPI

[Anonymous No.]

>>25848464
you're almost there bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>25833389
how do I add pitch information to my anki cards?

[Anonymous No.]

>「ジブラさんはラッパーですからね。ラッパーと言ったら、リムジンにですよ、金髪の美女５、６人乗せてシャンパンを飲んで、その後、泡風呂に入る人たちですよ」と（中略）明かしつつ「そんな人の不倫なんて誰がビックリするんですか」とした。

りんり１／５

どうとく１／５

おんがく１／５

[Anonymous No.]

らんま１／２

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wZvpFB4EIo
one of their best ones

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/H2WoWKSPhTE

watch 実況 of your favorite childhood games

[Anonymous No.]

>>25849441
nah ill probably have some completely different マイブーム by then

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvWOkzqsi88

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/bRWQckbQ9tQ?t=39

[Anonymous No.]

>>25849503
just can't imagine being married and like 50 years old coming home after work and putting on the anime op playlist

[Anonymous No.]

gonna watch my favorite anime with my kid and let them interpret it their own way at first then i'll point out things they probably missed

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850079
the comments are maldorous reddit level shit japanese lmao

[Anonymous No.]

gonna watch nge with my kid and ask him to interpret it for me

[Anonymous No.]

watchin the shinji jerkin off scene with my kid and asking him how we would respond in that situation

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850116
i just think its interesting to see what an average person thinks about stuff like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850157
stfu kids don't think baseball is gay just cuz they watch baseball with pops

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850164
yea

[Anonymous No.]

banger here boys

https://youtu.be/dcJGK3uRJQw

[Anonymous No.]

hope we see anime godfather leave a japanese comment

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850786
thankyou jamal-sama

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850758
lol

[Anonymous No.]

cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850926
好き嫌いはダメ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850882
they literally don't make em like this anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851043
k-on

https://streamable.com/wjf228

[Anonymous No.]

alright im falling for the mahoromatic meme wish me luck

[Anonymous No.]

People in this thread don't actually watch anime, do they?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deoq758_aNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH82_NhXC94
this guy ftw

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851356
been watching every single day for 1.5 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851409
>megu
god-tier taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851540
how does this help me acquire japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851540
gonna make one of these add ons post it here then i will go out on the streets at night and scream at the top of my lungs おまいらのbitcoinもらったぞい!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851603
its so in case you forget the definition for one word, you can click it and then be directed to the card where you put the definition for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25852056
why not just use something like the lingoes dictionary’s lookup-by-selection instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25848696
mia japanese add on.
kinda complicated to use, but its worth

also you can just add definitions from japanese dictionaries. the graph and the [0] indicates the pitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>25852127
holy fuck pitch accent shit looks so AIDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851043
you think the people getting paid slave wages working 14 hour days loved making that garbage lmfao?

[Anonymous No.]

bros i still think pinyin tone markings are better than pitch accent markings
dont @ me if youre not into aesthetics

[Anonymous No.]

>>25852252
Because they know it naturally retard of course pitch accent is important in language

[Anonymous No.]

>>25852252
i don't usually see stress accent markings in english dictionaries but stress accent is important

[Anonymous No.]

>>25852374
this.

also where to get the vnbank frequency lists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25850758
Isn't this the guy Matt gave the FLUENT tag on Discord when he joined cause he said he had been studying/living in Japan for X years but then he was revealed to be a dekinai asfuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25848308
Recommend me a novel that's as good as SayoOshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25853187
Recommend me a novel that is substantially better than SayoOshi then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25853187
b-but my literary masterpiece kamige..

[Anonymous No.]

>>25853004
>>25852374
search graph in yomichan settings

i think for the frequency list, im not sure where i got them. probably in these threads a while back

[Anonymous No.]

[None !cHipPAIdfU No.]

how do people normally deal with mining and reviews? i just recently started mining and on average i add like 100-150 new sentence cards a day but i only do 10-15 (sometimes 20 if i feel pushy) new cards per day. i will never get through all of them at this rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>25851409
incredible

[Anonymous No.]

>>25853408
you will probably naturally get sick of it like i did. review those who you habe learned and dont add new ones for a while until the daily reviews become bearable. the trick is that anki shouldnt get in your way of consuming compelling content.

right now i keep my reps to around 50 per day. i have about 170 unlearned cards in my mine deck and i will only add new words when i really want to or once iam down to about 20 new words.

tdlr: dont try to learn japanese with anki. use anki to support your japanese consoomings

[None !cHipPAIdfU No.]

>>25853676
i hope so, i'll keep that in mind
>>25853752
>until the daily reviews become bearable
i'm not complaining about my daily reviews (yet, at least), i have only like 50-60 daily reviews at best
>right now i keep my reps to around 50 per day
do you hard limit the amount of reviews per day? that kinda defeats the purpose of SRS, i wouldn't recommend doing that, i set my max daily reviews number at 9999 (and so should everyone else)
>tdlr: dont try to learn japanese with anki. use anki to support your japanese consoomings
im really not doing that at all, i spent the first 1-2 years of studying/immersing in japanese without almost no anki (i just used it for like the first 500-800 most common kanji/vocab then i gave up). most of the stuff i learned i did with just normal immersion, but i noticed a real plateau in more technical and advanced vocabulary so i decided to actually start mining for real now and i already notice improvements

[Anonymous No.]

>>25853889
>do you hard limit the amount of reviews per day? that kinda defeats the purpose of SRS, i wouldn't recommend doing that, i set my max daily reviews number at 9999 (and so should everyone else)

no i just didnt add new cards until this number naturally showed up because i really rather read some manga or watch some animu than grind anki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25816065
F

https://twitter.com/calvininput/status/1299395734341660674

[None !cHipPAIdfU No.]

>>25853962
>i really rather read some manga or watch some animu than grind anki.
i see
right now im just adding stuff from anime/shows (on netflix using the language learning with netflix extension + mia mining anki add-ons) and vns, it takes me literally like 5 seconds to add a new sentence + definition + audio/image cues to a card, so it's not really a big deal to just keep mining and adding new vocab as i encounter it
the only thing is if i want to watch tv or read manga in my living room, i can't use that but in that case i don't mine

[Anonymous No.]

uhh thank you

[Anonymous No.]

i feel like the japanese learning community is falling apart...

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Ks0-LuQ7DLg
Is 二は不十分 a correct way of saying two werent enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25854301
you need to get out more

[Anonymous No.]

>>25854301
eww he speaks english like a west coaster

[Anonymous No.]

>>25854277
do people not realize how said community is actually keeping them from knowing japanese, and is instead merely a vehicle for certain people to receive money and attention?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25854277
>mia
>japanese learning community
for the past 2 years mia only harmed japanese learning community

[Anonymous No.]

why isn't there any good japanese podcasts

[Anonymous No.]

>>25854741
apple podcasts has a bunch, but yea i don't know if they are any good

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855147
i'll start with 1.

calvin blanco (unawakened)

[Anonymous No.]

anime godfather

[Anonymous No.]

kanken 19 ???

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855377
>seabolt
at least put some effort in your bait fag

[Anonymous No.]

So trying to read through books now, currently just reading some LN and a Murakami book. I want to supplement that with conversation though, does anyone know a good conversation exchange app for native speakers? I figure Japanese is a hot commodity so the time between partners isn't a super big deal to me.
A friend learning Turkish recommended Italki, know of any others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855354
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF1_zmj0lLA
holy shit I physically cringed at this.

[Anonymous No.]

かなりのゲさ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855912
if it were 5s/card it'd have only taken you 45 minutes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855784
why do redditors care about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855912
what's your problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855930
can't shitpost at the same time if you're going for 5 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855912
that’s what you get for being a sentence fag tard, i can’t imagine how bad it must feel

[Anonymous No.]

maaah ano desu me

[Anonymous No.]

idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>25856054
wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857144
not going to read that but anybody who actually thought a class was going to help them learn a language from beginning is retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>25855784
they cant go as hard as men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857163
someone in my japanese class told me that the japanese majors all reach a high school level once they graduate

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>>25857206
yes just like how japanese people learn english and do so well on their tests can speak english. even so, having to make it your major and shutting your self out from any future prospects to allegedly get decent at a language millions can destroy you at? laughable.

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>>25857144
I thought the character limit was a lot less than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857144
Oh my gosh, I thought I was the only one whose first manga in Japanese was よつば XD

By the way, besides all the great tips you just gave, I'd also like to recommend the website "bilingual manga" in which you can find "Yotsuba" amongst other manga series both in Japanese and English. The cool thing is you can switch between the two languages just by clicking one single button which makes it super practical to use. Although, I'd hurry before the site gets shut down as other major websites have been lately...

[Anonymous No.]

it's yotsubato with an to because we follow the story with yotsuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857206
at least the people who finish japanese classes are less likely to be dekinai because they're clearly dedicated unlike miafags who jump on the raw train for a few months before giving up

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy5KsUxxOeM

more like thunderdork bullshittery

[Anonymous No.]

>>25816065
idk the contest or why the picture looks wacky and weird but man that book is pretty based :)

[Anonymous No.]

366
stfu

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>>25857361
you know now that i'm watching this video again. that word really doesn't seem necessary to mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857361
bro that is so slow lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857383
nothing's necessary to mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>wasting time on elaborate trannycards instead of just hooking vinnies
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857361
yeah mattcards are quicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857361
Do people actually do this? I am laffin

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good Higashi Keino if I like LNs and stuff like Nazotoki wa Dinner no Ato De?

Finished the Masquerade Hotel movie adaptation and I found that fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857361
knew his seiyuu sounded familiar. it's viral from ttgl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857447
>Using a text hooker
Never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857458
matt sucks at anything related to anki

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857485
>using the most efficient method to learn japanese via immersion
>not gonna make it
ohnonononono

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857500
It depends how you use it. If you just sit there and mouse over every word it's going to end up as a crutch

[Anonymous No.]

>>25826866
yeah not that guy but watching a recent podcast or something matt did i realized that this dude literally made MIA based off of old memories he had of learning japanese . i think he has some good ideas of course but so many ppl on here treat him as an infallible deity that will lead them to the earthly paradise that is knowing Japanese

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>>25857554
this is literally the daily e-celeb thread, of course the 100 regulars here attach to e-celeb cock like leeches in a turd filled swamp

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857574
he's a youtuber who profits off of a language learning model that he's built off of ajatt. i agree that he has good insights but people like >>25825990 paroting shit that they tangentially overheard explained by him and now treat it as law is Pretty Cringe

[Anonymous No.]

お壇上日おめでとうミクちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857533
how can you make sure you know the correct reading without hovering idgi

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857637
>not learning german to enjoy even more japanese ecelebs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a5fZnHcL4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTmBi8hKhQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857694
the problem with not listening to matt is that you're bound to know less than him. by pure coincidence there will be times where he's wrong on something and you're right, but you won't even realize it. because your reasoning is going to be infinitely more arbitrary and less informed than his. it's safer to assume he's right about everything.

[Anonymous No.]

want to kill people who cant appreciate anime

[Anonymous No.]

GET

[Anonymous No.]

N5 here. Only been studying for about a week so please excuse questions that probably seem really silly
Can someone explain the difference between Arimasen ka and Desu ne in the context of "isn't it"? I've seen both used recently and couldn't tell if one was wrong or not.

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>>25857803
Formality probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857771
thats a good point but i still think that shilling for something like his random anki opinions is pretty cringe

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>>25857772
i took a shower, came back to my pc and suddenly my audio jack doesn't work properly anymore.
have to either apply a little force updwards or pull the headphones out just a tiny bit.

why the fuck does stupid shit like this happen.

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>>25857902
i have wireless headphones so i can go and cook or something and leave them on its pretty nice

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>>25857727
If you studied kanji instead of "learning words" you would actually know words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25832046
another 12 hours done, time for muh vidya

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857993
you'd know 2 or 3 readings at best unless you've literally studied tens of thousands of vocab alongside the kanji, i.e, it'd be hit and miss regardless of your kanji knowledge and a MO dictionary would be useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857967
im pretty picky when it comes to audio, i'll make the switch eventually but i don't feel like trying out headphones for a month until i find a decent one.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMHzBCC440U

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858167
yes, and then instead of having to guess or look up the kanji you just hover the mouse over lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858223
And the word goes into your repository of "things I kind of know that I'll need to look up 50 times before they stick and I can independently distinguish it"

[Anonymous No.]

day 4 of mattcards this is way more efficient than animecards

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858243
nope, you add the word to anki
i've finished kklc. it won't magically let you know every meaning and reading, nor is text hooking a crutch

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858079
Thanks. This helped me find what I was looking for

[Anonymous No.]

miss me with matt ever since he sold out to netflix and watered down learning methods

[Anonymous No.]

are there any useful browser extensions for learning that you can recommend? thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858543
no. none at all. literally zero.

[Anonymous No.]

imagine matt making these posts about himself

[Anonymous No.]

conspiracy theorists on dorkchan assume the worst of people but much of matt's mind changing can be explained by the fact he's been trying to learn mandarin for the past 4 years but failing because he finds the process utterly boring and now understands what it's like for a lot of language learners

[Anonymous No.]

i think matt legit just dropped mia. he hasn't posted in the discord in 3 days

[Anonymous No.]

hahaha this girl in asakusa told me "sumimassen haite ikenai" when i tried to go into a restaurant that was closed and i told that dumb bitch i iku where i want and walked right in and got a sick shashin in front of the bar. i had to get out of there hella hayai becuase i think she called the cops

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858761
Learning kanji and vocabulary at the same time in a structured method which allows them to reinforce each other, e.g. KKLC

[Anonymous No.]

>>25857383
quiz was very autistic about mining obvious an easy to acquire words. its like he was against acquisition and just wanted to memorize everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858775
it's the best way, but it isn't adhd enough for djt

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858793
making anime cards is addicting

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858775
what is stopping you from simply looking at each kanji as you learn new words

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858811
KKLC is indeed the best, especially now that the graded reading books are done. So you get kanji and vocab together, along with 30,000 example sentences with progressively difficult grammar all keyed to the DoJG so that you can learn grammar at the same time and get context and usage knowledge for everything.

[Anonymous No.]

filtering kklc

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858846
Why would I do it that way when it's already been systematized into a more efficient and easier method?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858865
K L C
K K L C

[Anonymous No.]

dunno why kanjifags are so opposed to just using their eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858647
oh no the japanese learning community is in shambles i gotta postpone my learning until things get better

[Anonymous No.]

kklc fags are deluded to the maximum

i wish their puny cognitive abilities would improve

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858955
while reading japanese and encountering new words, just fukin look at the kanji thats in the word and notice the components that make up each one thats it. your brain will put the patterns together and get familiar with what kanji is in what words.
>the "just learn words" method leads to you kind of but not really knowing the word
if you do what i just said you're not going to have this issue

[Anonymous No.]

yoga is low iq

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859076
they only said iq was heritable. they tiptoed around the race thing except yoga said matt's a jew so he would know about iq

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859127
I think that learning words this way is a good thing, but the writing system of Japanese is too complicated to do it effectively without building a strong base to work with. That's just my experience of course. Just going straight into vocabulary with no kanji study to complement it was impossible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859328
lol i just opened this thread ぎりぎり

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859328
basado

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>>25857771
matt knows japanese. if he argues with me over a meaning of sentence, i'll probably trust him, but his skill does not at all imply he was skilled in choosing proper techniques. I've dealt with plenty of "experts" in my life who were absolute idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859758
don't do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859025
lol stupid pseud

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone explain to me what the fuck I'm supposed to do when I come across something like this?
I understand its supposed to be either
I can hear the sound of the world ending.
or
I can hear the sound of the story ending.
What is this called when they just arbitrarily chose readings for words?
I couldn't find any example of 世界 being read as ものがたり.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25859930
both retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>25854277
has he explained why they've broken up yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25853975
first smart choice he has made

[Anonymous No.]

あのことのために

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858865
dont care

[Anonymous No.]

>>25858647
From the looks of Matt banning yoga from discord he’s the one trying to steal the brand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860214
lmaoooo XDDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860176
>steals AJATT ideas from Khatzumoto (who mostly borrowed them from Antimoon but gave credit when necessary)
>renames his string of stolen ideas plus his shitty suggestions “MIA”
>then calls his 弟子 and coding slave the “cofounder” of MIA
>ends up kicking the cofounder out after realizing he can’t suck anything more out of him

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860176
matt is the brand. he can't steal it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860285
stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860214
>>25860313
>two gay jokes
i think djt is addicted to feminine cocks

[Anonymous No.]

so where's the q&a? wtf he's doing all day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860341
wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

matt has realized he cant tell the truth yet about his revolutionary selective input idea that will completely shift the focus of mia

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860336

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860341
https://youtu.be/3wZvpFB4EIo?t=226

[Anonymous No.]

you aren't fluent tho
no you aren't
nope

[Anonymous No.]

ok you're probably right

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860532
this guy will make it

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck does 兼 mean also and beforehand

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860549
yup he's also destroying pitch accent fags which makes him a god in my book

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860532
>>25860623
no way this guy has only been learning eigo for 3 months

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860694
he hasn't he was already pretty good at english before starting mia

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860532
>As for porn
tae kim was right all along

[Anonymous No.]

i think miaers who get posted on djt are the ones who get the curse of the djt, whereas the ones who dont are the ones who make it

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[Anonymous No.]

>>25860789
post an miaer who hasn't been posted in here and made it

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860623
lmao this guy reading welcome to the nhk in english

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860817
discipline is a good indicator for making it
gawd this guy is going places

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860912
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marshmallow+delayed+gratification

[Anonymous No.]

what is djt's nofap record?

(normalfags with gfs or wives need not reply)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860910
the power of deepl

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860930
4 or 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860980
only if you're a teenager or maybe in your very early 20s

[Anonymous No.]

so you're learning japanese to jack off to your vinnies or nukige or whatever but you stop jacking off so you can learn faster and jack off more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861021
i dont care about your guesses
the data and studies are out there and are well established, thats all that matters
discipline is a pseudoscientific concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861063
completely agree which is why i'm glad you posted a follow up that reinforces the notion that willpower exists as indicated in those marshmallow experiments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861014
yes. fapping usually feels a lot better than usual if i do it only once every 3 days rather than twice a day as usual

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861063
Everything today is about numbers and muh science, it's like think vs feel on a grand scale. Science has become the new age religion.

[Anonymous No.]

so looks like yiff party is down. anyone here a matto paypig? i want to watch the video titled "Patreon Q&A - April 20th, 2019"

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861108
the kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861144
well the scientific method sucks major ass at anything that isn't artificial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861063
maybe because 99.9 percent of humans are completely undisciplined failures not worthy of respecting intellectually, so any test that draws its data from them is completely separate from the few who can consider themselves above animals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861150
don't listen to this guy. kanji tells you the meaning while the furigana is how to read it (pronunciation wise)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861230
I'm not saying it's not useful, but blindly trusting raw data is doing a lot more harm than good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861335
i didn't need any authority to realize the chronic failure of nearly everyone. if you consider me delusional that's fine. i'm just saying that if you consider yourself to be a decent human you shouldn't be paying the slightest attention to the masses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861202
i don't care about consensus. what matters is what the evidence shows. but this question isn't even about that. and you failed to post anything contrary to the fact that delaying gratification is how people define willpower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861375
if you're a decent human you'll recognize the dignity of your fellow humans not be a misanthrope

[Anonymous No.]

This kills the immersion fag. If you can't translate this accurate you will never make it.
>今日は私は魚が好きです

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861455
as for me , today, the fish is like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861515
filtered

[Anonymous No.]

itchy nietzsche

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>>25861518
the game would be different, but marshmallows would no longer be a valid way to approximate discipline. Even then discipline is a matter of the mind. It exists prior to its demonstration as human interact with the outside word, even if the world is used to help forge it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861562
even then,* as humans interact*
sorry

[Anonymous No.]

stfu

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861628
what part of
>even if the world is used to help forge it.
did you not understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>uses a single card format for a few years
>claims its the perfect way of acquiring japanese
is quizmaster the khatzumoto of our times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861675
his deck actually has tons of different card types. he just decided they weren't as good in his second year so he stopped

[Anonymous No.]

rate my tl

ヒーローが必要
夜の果てまでヒーローを求め抜くの
彼は強くて喧嘩からばかりこなくちゃ
ヒーローが必要
朝の光てまでヒーローを求め抜くの
彼はしっかりでもうすぐになるなくちゃ
世より大きなくちゃ

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861765
translating lyircs is never gonna work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861672
the help part. discipline is defined by standards which are constantly subject to change. if i really want to eat marshmallows right now and i succeed in doing that but fail to give my future self the opportunity to eat more marshmallows, i made an unwise judgment and ignorance about reality. but it's not that i'm damned to "be" undisciplined. rather i just gave into a moment of greed and that greed will surely multiply itself. but discipline as is a function of inertia and less commonly (since people tend to be unconscious) knowledge about reality

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861791
doesn’t mean you’ll never need a dictionary or anki. but you’ll be much better at acquiring nuance from context, forming higher quality memories, and using those tools wisely rather than overrelying on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861385
>i don't care about consensus
we're talking about "scientific consensus" not the consensus of armchair pseuds
>>25861385
>what matters is what the evidence shows
yes and the consensus is established from careful scrutiny of the evidence, all detailed in the papers published alongside the studies
>>25861385
>you failed to post anything contrary to the fact that delaying gratification is how people define willpower
i *chose* to not post anything contrary to a debunked claim (which is decidedly not a fact), just like how i won't give evidence contrary the claim that the earth is flat

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861860
these are all just baseless assertions backed by baseless analogies

[Anonymous No.]

gotta remember that the more senses a memory taps into, the stronger it is. acquiring optimally from input means getting your senses online instead of just decoding and analyzing what’s written on a surface level. what are the characters feeling when that event happened in the story? what would the scene look and feel like if you were there? develop your ability to feel what you read/hear with more detail and clarity. not only will you have more fun but your ability to acquire new words and phrases naturally will skyrocket.

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>>25861878
nothing is baseless becuase i am merely quoting the results of established studies. you probably didn't even read the sources listed in the wikipedia section of the link above or make even a cursory search looking for scientific literature on the subject and i absolutely will not do what is your job

[Anonymous No.]

>>25860930
ほぼ２.5年とおもう

[Anonymous No.]

>>25861975
>it's not anyone's "job"
oh it certainly is and you cannot waive your own obligation to search establishing studies just by saying so
>i don't see the point in making vague assertions
not one thing i said is vague. in particular, >>25860957 is an unambiguous and well sourced assertion from the wikipedia article
>after demonstrating an inability to understand a post
only happened in your head
>bombing someone with studies
i clearly said it is your job to locate the studies if you will not accept facts. don't you know how to read? or are you so incapable you can't find anything yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862191
>>25862266
how tf

[Anonymous No.]

holy fuck matt is ruining his credibility on twitter right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862131
yeah and i hope those stupid baguettes kill themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862444
if you are satisfying your sexual urges via sex then nofap is not an accomplishment at all

>dude i've done 3 months of no fap! oh btw i had sex every day with my gf lol

[Anonymous No.]

>matt is now "MIA Founder" on twitter as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862480
for me it would be a huge accomlishment

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862348
>you cannot waive your own obligation to search establishing studies
what obligation? decided by who? i only pointed out that no one's going to bother entertaining your assertions.
>is an unambiguous and well sourced assertion from the wikipedia article
i already pointed out the huge issue with that study though which is that the researchers controlled for factors like income which controls for factors which reflect willpower in the first place. also they looked at variance within income groups and not between, which is called range restriction and would weaken the relationship between gratification and delay. that's a huge oopsie that makes the entire study a dumpster unless i'm missing something.
>i clearly said it is your job to locate the studies if you will not accept facts
but you're just asserting it's a fact. it's no one's job to look for studies or do anything for that matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862503
maybe but it's nowhere near on the same level as no pmo

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862518
>between gratification and delay
between gratification delay and positive life outcomes*

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862500
is it mia if you've found it?

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best way of learning Katakana? I mean just memorizing the characters is one thing, but if I can't really practice reading them a lot, I will forget again. I think Katakana is super annoying in that way. They appear too frequent to just ignore them, but not frequent enough to get really comfy reading them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862518
>what obligation
the obligation to >>25861950
>read the sources listed in the wikipedia section of the link above or make even a cursory search looking for scientific literature on the subject
>decided by who?
the consensus of the scientific community
>huge issue with that study
what is "that"?
>which reflect willpower in the first place
this is a baseless assertion
>but you're just asserting it's a fact
because it is. and unlike flat earthers, i'm not claiming it without evidence, nor am i asserting the evidence exists without specifying where. i have already told you how to find the studies but i am saying i will absolutely not do the work of linking them here individually or explaining their methods/reasoning/conclusions or verifying their data for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862600
read pokemon special or play pokemon games

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862600
not a real problem just keep reading (not being ironic)

[Anonymous No.]

>>25862600
you might as well have asked the nigger general thread cause even niggers can figure this out