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274237 No.274237 [Reply] [Original]

Time for a hikikomori head count. Type here if you think the term applies to you.

Here

>> No.274241

All of us.

>> No.274251

Why would you be in /jp/ otherwise?

>> No.274257

i'm set to go to korea to teach english. do I count?

>> No.274258

>>274237
You might as well just say "Ok everyone that is reading this post in this thread"

>> No.274266

>>274257
what kind of credentials do you need to do that? is the government going to give you a place to live?

>> No.274267

i never leave the house except to go to uni, do i count?

>> No.274282
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274282

i was a year ago, except for the living with my mom part , but i have school now, and i never eat whats in the house, i always leave the house for some fast food or korean bbq. i wish i could go back.

>> No.274283

>>274267
no, going to scool means you have a cance of being sucessful

>> No.274287

Does wishing to be a hikkikomori count?

>> No.274289

>>274266
you need
1) a pulse
2) no criminal record
3) a bachelor's degree
4) to be able to speak english

and yes, they give you free housing and airfare

>> No.274292

To be defined as a hikikomori, one must not leave the house for 6 months because of mental/social issues.

>> No.274295

SOUP /jp/?

>> No.274298

>>274289
>free housing
Are you fucking serious?

>> No.274308

>>274298
yes, but you still need to pay for utilities and food.

>> No.274320

I know I can't really comprehend what it's like to be a real hikki. But I've been doing nothing for the past week and I just met up with a friend yesterday and watched Kiki's Delivery Service again, the theme song always cheers me up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di4ShM5lYuI

>> No.274310

Authentic hikkikomori here. Don't go to school and work from home, so I never go outside.

>> No.274316

>>274298
He means a free Hut with a bed of hay.

>> No.274322

>>274310
but you work.

>> No.274334
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>>274316

actually it's more likely you'll be given one of these apartments in the background

>> No.274350

>>274334
Oh ok then. A free Hut with a bed of hay and a window.

>> No.274356

>>274350
And a nice view of THE LAKE

>> No.274362

I'm here.

I live with my parents and don't work, being an underaged free loader is awesome - No?

To be honest it's shit, I never thought having nothing to do would be the source of my depression.

>> No.274363

>>274289
do you have to major in teaching or english or something? I heard that it's pretty difficult to be a teacher in korea, does that not count for foreigners?

>> No.274367

>>274356
Isn't it nice knowing you'll have a way to suicide?

>> No.274371

I only leave this room to sleep and grab snacks.
Here.

>> No.274390

>>274363
you just need to have a bachelor's degree from an accredited 4-year university. english majors get paid slightly more.

it's not hard at all to get a teaching position in Korea, if you're willing to jump through hoops. the problem is that thanks to a pedo teacher (Mr. Swirl-Face) there's been stricter requirements - you now need a criminal background check done.

>> No.274400

29, living at mommies. No job. Watching anime right now. Posting on /jp/. Going to play Mountain of Faith in 10 minutes.

>> No.274409

>>274390
Yeh, but dont you need to speak Korean?

I'm seriously thinking about it, if you have an Masters do you get paid more?

>> No.274419

I was a hiki for 3 years straight (maybe left the house once a year max); I finally decided to go back to school in september. I miss the lifestyle, but it's outweighed by the thought of living on my own and moving out.

>> No.274420

Here.

22, live alone, work at home, no friends, only leave the house to get groceries. I'm considering home delivery so I can become a 100% hiki.

>> No.274432

>>274420
What kind of work do you do?

>> No.274440

>>274432
Webmaster/Graphic Design.

>> No.274447

>>274409
You don't need to speak Korean, but it helps. The alphabet, hangul, is super-easy to learn, so you shouldn't have any trouble there.

if you have a Master's in English, yeah you get paid more; otherwise it's the same as a bachelor's. Make sure you teach at a public school, or else you'll end up getting jewed by a hagwon

>> No.274472

>>274447
how the hell are you supposed to work there if you can't speak the language?

>> No.274476

>>274440
How do you like it? Fun times?

>> No.274480

>>274440
How's the pay? Enough to get by comfortably?

I was thinking of getting a part time job/or going back to school. That way I'll be doing something productive and helping my parents out.

>> No.274499

I havent left my house since early February. I live with my mother and she buys everything I need. I have dropped out of college, and I do not have a job. It's quite nice, but I know this will all come back and kick me in the ass in the future. Oh well.

>> No.274525

>>274480
around 2000USD/month. keep in mind you don't have to pay any rent, just utilities and food.
>>274472
if you're teaching public like I am, you have an English-speaking korean co-teacher that helps plan the lesson. if you're teaching private, good luck whitey, hope you get paid on time LOL

>> No.274527

Uni dropout, work in a middle management position at some call center.

Used to live on my own. Parents got divorced and the mum needed some extra income, so now I rent my old room back home.

Not quite a hikki, but skirting the boundaries.

>> No.274557

>>274480
>>274476
The money is enough to pay rent, utilities and food with enough leftover to support my animu figure habit. Can't say it's really fun or anything, but I can think of a lot worse. Shit, I'm just happy to have a job.

>> No.274548

>>274525

Ok then, I'm going to wrap up my bsc, get my masters and then this time next year I can be planning to go to Korea to teach! Of course I will learn Hangul and some intermediate Korean to start off though.

Is it really as awesome as it sounds? Because it sounds awesome.

>> No.274562

Hmm. Did you notice?
Almost every Hikki you meet types properly, and with a certain -tone-. I have not yet seen an actual one that types with chatspeak, or lacks this linguistic quality.
Huh; food for thought.

>> No.274579

>>274562
LOL LIEK I KNO RITE?~?~?!?!?! xD ^____6

>> No.274584

>>274562>>274562

I noticed this too.

Hikkis seem to fit into the 'Satou' archetype quite well in my opinion. They're quite cynical, for good reason I guess.

>> No.274594

>>274548
If I ever get out of the Hikki scene I suppose teaching English in Japan wouldn't be so bad. That nigger (Nigger from Gaijin Smash) is teaching in Japan and he seems to be doing fine.

>> No.274603

I want to teach english in japan, my aunt is a teacher here where i live and she said it took her 8 years to get her bachelors degree but I think she said it took longer because she was raising her children. Is this shit true? eight years to fucking get a degree so you can live in japan and have a job?

>> No.274605

I would love to be a hikki, but I such a luxury isn't possible for me. My parents would throw me out on my ass if I didn't go to school, and then I'd have to get a job. Aside from going to school though, I probably leave the house once a month to visit relatives. Does this count?

>> No.274608

>>274322
Yeah, how am I supposed to support myself if I don't? -_-

>> No.274615

>>274562

The majority of the hikki type are well versed in linguistics and whatnot. Time spent for learning how to be socially compatible is instead spent on expanding their vocabulary, if only to be better than the teenage mongoloids who prowl the internet.

>> No.274619

>>274562
Unless the hikki is a troll.
But yeah, interesting find. I have never noticed it before.

>> No.274629

>>274594
What the fuck happened to that dude? Is he still in Japan? Does he have any new stuff? I stopped reading his articles after the website change.

>> No.274631

>>274605
Do online schooling like myself. Simple, and effective.

>> No.274635

>>274548
it's a job. nothing special. you aren't changing the world or anything, but it's easy to get if you're white (the gooks love having whiteys teach their kids English)

>> No.274650

>>274635
they want native speakers

>> No.274657

>>274629
he quit teaching and he's marrying a Jap

>> No.274663

You are now conscious of your typing style.

>> No.274672

>>274657
Are you shitting me, that nigger got a J-waifu?

>> No.274674

>>274605
Lazy slob =/= Hikkikomori.

>> No.274680

>>274657
that nig in nippon is a nigger so he can't marry in nippon

>> No.274686

I have no social contact outside of school.

>> No.274688

>>274657
The same one that gave him the "Octopus"? ◕ ◡ ◕

>> No.274698

>>274631
I doubt my parents would go for that, sadly. My dad seemed pretty interested in it, but I doubt my mom would go for it. I really screwed up in High School. I almost couldn't graduate because I barely passed Algebra 2 since homework was like 60% of the class grade. I haven't studied a day since middle school, and only do the homework I could finish up during school. She knows that if I didn't attend classes I'd just shelve the work and spend all my time fapping and trolling 4chan.

Over the past month I've just felt so unmotivated. I don't even know why I wake up in the morning. I can't even sit down and finish watching an episode of a random anime anymore, let alone a whole series. I spend all day practically sitting around drooling on myself.

>> No.274702

>>274688
No, I believe it's some other J-girl. I haven't read any of his articles in a while but I'm quite sure they broke up.

>> No.274710

>>274698
tell you dad that he can put her in her place because she is just a woman and her opinion is always wrong

>> No.274718

>>274698
I spend all my days drooling as well, i only listen to animu ops.

>> No.274719

>>274674
You mean hikikomori's aren't lazy slobs?

>> No.274721

>>274562
Spare me the pretense.

>> No.274733

>>274698
Didn't you ever have real panic moments of motivation though? I used to have those before tests etc and it really gave me the drive to at least scrape into a good university. Come to think of it, the realization hits me sometimes that I am at one of the best universities in the world, I just sit in my room in London and think 'How the fuck did I end up here? I'm so damn lazy!'

>> No.274735

>>274698
Me too.

At first I thought with all this free time I'd have would be used to watch animu but I just don't feel like it. The most I can watch is four episodes a day. Which isn't much compared to my 'Animu Marathons' I used to have instead of studying for a test.

>> No.274752

I'm a rehabilited (is that how it's written?) Hikikomori, altough a fail one, I kind of have a social life, it's been almost three years since I decided to leave my house, before that I didn't leave my room for about 1 and half year, except when I needed to buy stuff

>> No.274761

About the hikikomoris being very linguistic idea, what about mathematical? Or good at science?

>> No.274767

Well, not really, but I'm as close as you can come while being at college, living in a double-occupancy dorm room, and having a job. I have all my classes done before 11AM MWF, and 2PM TR, so I can sleep until 8-10PM. I do my one job (collecting recyclables) at 10PM when people are less likely to be in the halls an my other job is working at the student radio station 3-6AM, so my only contact is the occasional "SKYNYRD!" request.

The last time I hung out with anybody (and the only time, since this semester started) was playing a bit of Wii with a kid I knew from last semester for a couple hours. I occasionally call my out-of-state best friend, but that's it.

It's not entirely bad. I'd like to have a girlfriend (not picky), but don't really care for the rest of the young adult world and most young adults. Despite awesome ACT scores, I'd have been better off with a short trade school, I think.

>> No.274772

>>274719
No I mean lazy slobs aren't hikkikomoris. People tend to think because you sit on your arse all day it makes you a hikkikomori.

If the above were true, I'm sure at least half of America could be considered hikkikomori.

>> No.274798

>>274772
If being a hikikomori was productive, it wouldn't be seen as a problem.

>> No.274809

Does it help having a sister if you are a hikikomori?

>> No.274818

>>274809
How the fuck would having a sister help you?

>> No.274832

>>274733
Nah. Not that I can recall. When I first started to fail a few of my classes my parents canceled the internet and took away my video games and stuff to try and motivate me, but I still didn't bother to try bringing them up. I just slept all day. They eventually gave up and just stopped punishing me. When I look back on how I acted I really hate myself.

Whenever I do feel motivated to start a project, I always think along the lines of "It's too late to start tonight. I'll do it first thing in the morning." And then the morning comes and I go back to drooling all over myself.

>> No.274830

>>274798
I am productive a lot at home. Mostly to my health as I work out everyday. I never leave the house nor do I have a job. I don't even want a job.

>> No.274835

>>274798
Being a Hikikomori means that you are in no way productive, or what good could you do to the world by not having any social contact at all in several months (years?)?

>> No.274853

remember hikkiokomori includes people - who doesn't just "rarely" go out - no the very definition of hikkikomori is people who pee in bottles out of fear for the world outside their bedroom, people who live on the internet, with no understatements there.

To be honest I'm not doing any of those, I go out to school and go home. Sometimes I go out and run. That's about it


So I'm not here in this thread if anybody asks.

>> No.274858

>>274818
Maybe she would be really sweet and nice and help you out. And always hug you and stuff, like sisters do.

>> No.274882

>>274835
I've heard of some hikkis making money with stocks.

>>274858
Sounds nice. I'm so ronery. T___T

>> No.274887

>>274832
Set a time that is quite far away then, but build up to it. Make that date FIRM, never change it... say 2 months from now on the DAY. Then when that day arrives, launch into it.

>> No.274888

As a psych student, I'm sort of interested in hikikomoris. Not a lot of research has been done into them, and it's sort of surprising, really...

>> No.274891

>>274858

This is now an incest thread.

>> No.274894

>>274853
So, what I get from your statement is that Hikikomori is akin to paranoia. Cause peeing in bottles cause you're too scared to go outside is pretty paranoic.

So, using this logic, I can safely say for most guys here that they're not hikikomori. They have problems, but not to the degree of being called a hikikomori.

>> No.274919

>>274894
No, disregard what that person said. He sucks cock.

>>274887
I've been planning on doing something like that. This is in no way really productive but I'm starting a project. I'm going to be making a BJD. If I ever start the project I might post updates if anybody is interested.

>> No.274915

>>274858
If I tried to hug my sister, she would probably slap me.

>> No.274923

>>274888
Just watch welcome to the N.H.K.

I'm serious.

Seriously.

There isn't much to know. They realize that life's a hell of a lot easier if you sponge off of your parents, and the parents let them do it. As soon as they can't get money or sponge off of someone else, they're miraculously cured. In short, it doesn't exist. It's just a persons fear of going out on their own and their parents give them the chance not to.

>> No.274928

>>274915
I wish I had a sister who would slap me if I tried to hug her.

>> No.274933

>>274915
why....? If you genuinely told her how awful you feel and you want to feel close to someone, wouldn't she help?

>> No.274937

>>274853

Hikikomori and agrophobia are really not the same thing.

>> No.274946

Not really a hikki, but definitely introverted. I've got a job, but afternoons and weekends I spend strictly at home.

I did do the whole NEET thing for about six months last spring and goddamn was it depressing. I got sick of anime in that run. A lot of the days were spent just doing nothing, waiting for something to be on tv, browsing the internet for anything interesting or playing some video game to keep me distracted for a while.

I do kinda miss the solitude, though, especially on some cold ass days when you need to go to work and just keep thinking "Man, wouldn't it be awesome to just stay home today...maybe play some TF2".

>> No.274947

>>274915
Way too much tsun-tsun for my liking.

>> No.274973

If I didn't have packages comming in the mail I'd probably never leave my room, most of which are figures, games, and other weeaboo shit.

All paid for by my parents.

>> No.274975

>>274946
I mentioned this in a previous thread actually. Having a balance between solitude and socializing is a good thing. You definately need both, but it's a question of their relationship to one another, a ratio if you will.

I for example only need to go out once every week with my friends at university. Other people may be less than that. But after working/going out, it's just so nice to be on your own. Just lying down... Not doing anything, maybe reading a book or a manga... Solitude really is bliss.

>> No.274977

>>274888
I'd be really interested in reading something about the otaku mindset, I've only read a few books that kinda touch on the subject, but don't really dwell on it.

There was that one guy who wrote Otakuology, which might be of interest, but that's never been translated.

>> No.274984

>>274928
No. You don't.

>> No.274987

parents need to get on their kids backs more about this, geez.

i go to college full time and my mom still talks about how she's sick of me never leaving my room otherwise.

>> No.274992

>>274975
That's what I'm kinda striving for, but it's a lot easier to get the solitude part. Although I'm stil waiting to move out of my mom's so I can have REAL solitude.

>> No.274993

I've noticed some people can be partial hikkis at college. They never go out, always stay in their rooms, hardly ever turn up for classes yet they can still come away with really good results. Being that clever certainly has it's benefits.

>> No.274994

>>274984
Well it would be nice if she didn't slap me and accepted the hug but just having a sister would be nice.

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>>274987

>> No.275002

>>274996
I loled

>> No.275004

Technically it wouldn't, but in outward appearance it certainly would, but I am able to go out when necessary, and I do attend a single class at a State University. Otherwise I rarely go outside, and spend most of my time in my room.

>> No.275006

I have social anxiety disorder. Took me 3hrs to work up the courage to leave the apartment to buy food today.

>> No.275010

>>275004
Yeah I just leave the house for a single course I take at a community college. Not much but it's a start.

>> No.275018

Okay, there's something that I've had experienced as far back as I could remember when I was about three years old. About once every two months, I would get these intense episodes of incapacitating fear that would recur and taper off in a span of two to three days. It seems like they are usually triggered by suddenly exposing myself to hot or cold water such as taking a hot shower or by being shocked by a splash of cold water. Likewise, these 'fear attacks' (for a lack of a better term) can also happen when I'm sleep deprived, such as waking up in the early morning to go to school or to work. Actually, there's been many times when the fear became so incapacitating that I had to stay home and hide under the sheets until it goes away and miss school or work for the day.

I can't really describe how it feels exactly very well, it's a very strange sensation. The best I can do is to describe it as feeling an internal chill creep through me compounded by an amalgamation of intense doom, fear, and anxiety.

So far the few psychologists and psychiatrists I've talked to about this have no clue what this is. The closest thing they could approximate this to is panic attacks, but I don't experience any of the physical symptoms of a panic attack such as hyperventilation, palpitations, nausea, etc., only some emotional ones. Many hours spent searching online for people who might have had similar experiences have come up with nothing. It could all well just be some kind of weird ass variety of panic attack. Can anyone else relate to this?

tl;dr Weird kind of panic attack that no one else I know has.

>> No.275022

Does anyone know what I'm talking about, that feeling you get when you haven't done anything for a day or a week or so and you can't remember anything significant you did since you woke up?

>> No.275028

>>275022

Yup....

>> No.275030

If I didn't attend college I would classify as a hikki. During long breaks such as summer vacation I can go weeks on end without leaving the house.

>> No.275033

What a bunch of losers. Grow some balls, wimps.

>> No.275045

>>275033
I'm working on it.

>> No.275048

>>275033
go back to /b/.

>> No.275056

>>275033

You Tell 'em Anonymous!

That'll show 'em!

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>> No.275061

Is it possible to be considered a hikikomori without being a NEET?

>> No.275066

>>275061
no idiot

>> No.275069

>>275061
yes

>> No.275075

I do ok in social situations there are defined ways to act, like at a workplace. Other then that I'm totally lost. Can be uncomfortable, but I don't really mind that much. My couping mechanism is coming right home and reading, surfing. Figure it's pretty healthy compared to what other people do.

>> No.275076

>>275018


Not me.

I'm pretty numb really. No real depression, no real fear, no great bouts of euphoria, but persistent contentment and a steady stream of apathy are my daily diet.

>> No.275118

>>275062
Thats actually pretty good quality for a GIF.

>> No.275148

/r/ archive

>> No.275152

>>275148

ok

>> No.275184

like many other anons in this thread, almost a hikki

I just have... uni

I go to my classes, come back, stay home all day and do absolutely nothing. It's fucking depressing when I think about it. I don't even do anything on the internet, I just refresh /jp/ and /v/ over and over again trying to find something interesting

the worst part is that even though I don't do anything, I still have no motivation for schoolwork... Like, I'm in CS right now and we have assignments sometimes that we need to upload at 23:59 max, and if you upload it one day later, you get minus 5%. If you upload it 2 days later, you get 0%. I haven't turned in one on the first day yet in the past 2 semesters.

>> No.275188

does it count as social anxiety if its only adults and certain people? sure, im 20, and i can talk to classmates and people who i know are nerdy in some way... but if i have to talk to someone whos older than me or i see as a "superior" i lock up and end up sounding like a lost kid.

"normal" highschool students also terrify me. i can't even stand to be near them without wanting to hide from their dangerous, judging eyes.

yeah i dont go outside a lot.

>> No.275199

>>275184
wow. thats exactly like me, right down to the /v/ and /jp/ part. im pretty ok friends with the other students but no one really hangs out with me and i dont make attempts. then i sit at home and turn in assignments late.

>> No.275205

>>275199

Yeah, the worst part about being a total failure is how you fail at failing. Like I should be playing more Touhou and watching more animu, or honing my FPS or Starcraft skills, but often I just don't feel like it.

>> No.275207

>>275199

>>275184 here,
holy shit, what you just said about being friends with the other students is the same for me

MY OWN CLONE

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275215

I have stopped and thought long and hard, for hours at a time, about what I should do not to "waste" my life. Pretty much comes to the same end; it's a huge amount of work to live that way, and I really don't have the motivation. Scientists think there is a part of the brain responsible for motivation, I guess ours are just underdeveloped.

>> No.275216

Why the fuck do we need threads like this? HEY LOOK AT ME I'M MORE OF A LOSER THAN YOU! HA HA NICE WORK, DUDE!.

Get this shit out of here. We already know how shitty our lives are. We don't need a circle jerk about it. The very definition of hikki prohibits it. you fucking fakes.

>> No.275219

>>275184
>>275199
>>275207
I think almost all of us can relate.

OUR OWN CLONES
NOW NONE OF US WILL BE VIRGINS

>> No.275220

I remember my bout with near hikkiness.. did it for two years.. I still went out of my room.. just only a few times a day

in the end I got bored... worked for a brief moment and then went to school (found I had scholarship money...)

>> No.275224

>>275216

Tsun tsun for ronery threads.

>> No.275227

>>275216
HIKKIES use 2ch to circlejerk.


EDO SOME RESEARCH

>> No.275228

>>275216
Yet I bet you read the whole thread anyway

It's okay Anonymous.

>> No.275232

>>275220

Hikis pity themselves on the internet all the time, what are you talking about?

Why do you think 2ch has a /Hiki/ section?

>> No.275233

>>275207
>>275219
HOORAY we'll all be not virgins together.

is it wierd i actually could care less? so many ronery threads seem to say that i am.

>> No.275238

>>275232
huh? I think you meant to quote >>275216

>> No.275241

>>275238

whoops, misclicked there.
sorry.

>> No.275248

>>275224
>>275227
>>275228
>>275232
Well that was easy. My work here is finished.

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>>275248

Nice one.

>> No.275447

I have not left my house in months. My longest run was several years, however I am not sure how long it was because the past blurs together in a strange way. With all of this free time you would think I actually do something each day like read a book, play a video game, watch tv, study, or practice at something but in reality I have not done any of that today. I often wonder how a full day has passed me by without having done anything.

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>> No.275736

>>275709
Just waiting, just waiting man, for the price to drop on that manga.

>> No.275766

>>275736
How low does it need to be? I can get it here for a little under 10 eurofag monies per volume.

>> No.275910

Its $25 in Australia. Some places don't shrink wrap it. Ive seen several children witness the horror that is Welcome to the NHK

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>> No.276208

While not quite a full-fledged Hikki, I rather enjoy avoiding society, I live my life with only bare necessities and nothing more. Society is a trifling beast.

>> No.276208,1 [INTERNAL] 

Here.

>> No.276208,2 [INTERNAL] 

I can't take it anymore

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