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How many more days of this?

>> No.31301471
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>> No.31301550

>>31301471
I never thought I'd see the day where this would be meido's second largest crime.

>> No.31301702

The more you complain, the more threads will be made to spite you.

>> No.31302393

>>31301471
I HATE IT!

>> No.31302477

>>31302393
HE HATES IT!

>> No.31302710

Mods will get over their power trip fight soon, just sit tight and enjoy the show.
Creating more threads discussing this will only fan the fires

>> No.31302797

Pretty fucking lame if you ask me. It's funny how they respond to what they call shitposting by... shitposting.
Half of the hololive threads have no substance, they're there just to fill /jp/. I actually enjoy some of the idols, and some people are just starting to get into touhou from all this traction.
We've had a general in /v/ just about constantly though so, aight.
I'm too busy actually playing the games instead of fighting board culture. This may or may not go away, but there will be another touhou game.
Every single year, maybe even two.

>> No.31305051

>>31302797
>Half

>> No.31305124

>>31301174
It's not going to end.
The mods have always hated this board and now they have their chance to kill it.

>> No.31305575

>>31302710
>fight
dude
what fight, all I've been hearing lately is fighting. fighting over what? the board was fine. it barely needed moderation outside of two threads that were already taken care of.

>> No.31305592

>>31305124
the redditors from /qa/ have always held a bitter hatred of /jp/ after /jp/ put it under occupation that one time

>> No.31305731

>>31302797
there's shitposting because people can't take it easy anymore anon

>> No.31305818

>>31301174
Probably forever.

Mods not doing anything, janitors not doing anything, Hiroshimoot not doing anything. While it's the holidays it started before Christmas, Christmas is over, and moderation actions have been taken, but no announcements, no nothing about the obvious issue. Doesn't matter that no one likes it. Doesn't matter that a /jpg/ board would bother users of /jp/ 0%, it's bullshit and annoying as fuck and obviously should be fixed but the fucking idiots who run this site don't give a fuck about boards that aren't /v/. Fuck them.
Too bad moot left, he'd definitely split the board. I mean that's why /jp/ exists in the first place.

>> No.31305882

>>31305575
You know how one meido was containing the Holo threads? A different mod hates Vtubers or something, and hates the more active moderation style, so they seem to have called for the usual restraints to be taken off and for people to not moderate it as much.
Which is odd, because no one had any issue with how things were except for the occasional burst of new threads that got cleaned up between new ones. But it only takes one piece of shit in the bowl to ruin a recipe, right?

>> No.31306148

>>31305882
It would be fine if there were at least any guidelines at all but there is no moderation left at all. Personally I found it unfair everything had to go into containment threads except touhou and the occasional VN thread and it's a ridiculous situation that the vast majority of a board's userbase is confined to two threads. But there is no moderation left at all. Nothing gets deleted, nothing is off topic anymore, anything goes. You can make twenty threads about the same thing and nothing happens. You can detail threads and nothing happens. A week ago frogs were deleted on sight and now you can just do whatever. What is this shit?

>> No.31306193

>>31305882
>A different mod hates Vtubers or something, and hates the more active moderation style, so they seem to have called for the usual restraints to be taken off and for people to not moderate it as much.
It would literally be easier to make them a board. /jp/ barely needed attention before they came here. With the other methods of moderation, all they'd have to do is disable links on that board or make it so only OP can post images and the rest of the board is text. They'd spend more time fighting eachother than actually discussing anything.

>> No.31306211

>>31306148
strike time

>> No.31306233 [DELETED] 

>>31306211
>strike time
>

>> No.31306267

>>31306211
>strike time
?

>> No.31306273

>>31301702
>>31302710
Faggot mods are waiting for people to stop complaining so they can smugly wipe their hands clean and declare that this objectively bad decision was actually fine so they don't have to walk it back.

>> No.31306363

>>31306273
I agree that continuing to complain is a good idea. Not being sarcastic. It's painfully fucking irritating that /v/ has been split like 7 times arbitrarily but /jp/ is fucked by generals. We already had a problem before this: the idol threads choking the board (not vtubers, literally 3DPD idols). Why the fuck are there generals here? So bullshit

>> No.31306392

>>31306193
Neither of the threads want their own board, the majority want to go back to the normal days before all of this. The megathread posters have basically kept to themselves because the last time the usual mod posted, they said they didn't want this either, and to just keep on posting like usual and wait it out. People making independent threads are called out for being retards in the megathreads, mostly.
That would've been the easiest option, maintaining the status quo, maybe dropping the meido a few extra jannies to make sure no one does something stupid, and everything would've worked just fine. But noooo, here we are instead.
Hopefully someone fucking gets their act together and goes back to normal.

>> No.31306449

>>31306392
Well don't speak for me because I think the megathreads are hot garbage but I still don't think /jp/ can handle this

>> No.31306479

>>31306273
I'm betting this is the case. I've already given up on it.

>> No.31306498

>>31306267
they're on strike.

>> No.31306527

So is the mod team making fun of sharkmeido on /qa/ and destroying jp to fuck with him?

>> No.31306532

>>31306449
That's fine, not everyone is the same on that, but the majority have been when it comes to the posters on there. Doesn't mean you're part of the majority, or that it's automatically right, even if I agree with them.

>> No.31306571

Why not move to another website? Isn't there another Imageboards that'd make a /jp/ for us

>> No.31306620

I'm tired of arguing with Holo-posters. They're tired of arguing too. Everyone's tired.

>> No.31306644

>>31306571
That path has danger ahead of it, because no one wants to make the next 8 mistake. It'd take a lot of time, effort, and trust to find someone to do it right and keep it going well.

>> No.31306672

>>31306479
If, like hypothethised, this decisicion was motivated by laziness then surely they'll soon realize that just reverting things to the way that worked would be easier than having to be constantly deleting meta threads.

>> No.31306706

>>31306672
And admit they were wrong?

>> No.31306751
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"The mods aren't deleting the things I hate waaaaaaaaaa" is this thread.

>> No.31306752

>>31306706
They could just say going back to the old way was actually them implementing a new way if they want to be really ego preserving about it, since there was never an official policy before.

>> No.31306836

>>31306751
*Things everyone hate
FTFY

>> No.31306851

>>31306498
On strike for what?

>> No.31306859

I don't get the laziness hypothesis. How is this easier if sharkmeido was keeping an eye on the generals anyway?

>> No.31306877

>>31306751
Even holofans are mad because roommate posting isn't deleted anymore.

>> No.31306940

>>31306851
mods fucking up their board

>> No.31306947

>>31306859
>>31306193
>/jp/ barely needed attention before they came here.

>> No.31306951

>>31306877
we are? why did no one tell me?

>> No.31306966

>>31306947
yes

>> No.31307001

>>31306859
Every hypothesis so far assumes that the mods are irrational.

>> No.31307036

>>31306947
yes

>> No.31307037

>>31306966
/jp/ used to be a shitposting hellhole.

>> No.31307059

>>31307001
There isn't really a rational explanation for this. The only one that assumes that they're competent is that they want this outcome, and are actively trying to make things worse for a reason that's hard to understand.

>> No.31307064

>>31307001
I assuming that mods hate 2hufags for some random reason and don't look at the board enough to remember that anyone else exists.

>> No.31307079

>>31307037
Did you read the 2012 archives or something? Holoshits only made the board worse.

>> No.31307096

>>31307001
Well some of them were already ousted for being assholes.
Lazy is one thing, propagating is not.

>> No.31307112

they are going to let vtubers go rampage here because there's a mod from other board that is more important and don't like the spam
this place is going to be used as containment

it's over

>> No.31307150

>>31307059
>>31307064
I wouldn't say mods intentionally fucking up the site they're supposed to be moderating out of spite counts as rational.

>> No.31307219

>>31307112
Senior mods removed the mod that was a Gura vtuber fan, and he was the one keeping the board in check, removed all the jannies, made a /qa/ post to make fun of /jp/ and now laugh at the shitshow. This isn't about vtubers vs touhou, this is about moderation being removed from /jp/.

>> No.31307271

>>31307150
Well, do you have a better idea? I'm honestly stumped as to any rational reasoning when the problem was taking care of itself before.
There was a mod who was willingly dedicated to the topic, with the only issue being a jannie shortage. The Holoposters were mostly content in their containment threads, 2hus were mostly safe, and the other generals weren't having to fight to live every thread and could keep at their own pace. All that was really needed was a more formal understanding to define the boundaries, and it would've been fine. But then this happened instead.
Honestly, it boggles the mind.

>> No.31307288

>>31301174
Never. It's over, the NEET ronin have no home now.

>> No.31307367

>>31307150
It counts as rational if site upkeep isn't their goal.
>>31307112
>>31307219
I'll accept this reasoning, although I'm peeved to be caught in the crossfire.

>> No.31307392

>>31307271
I don't think it's a far-fetched idea to think that the mods are just straight up fucking retarded.

>> No.31307452

>>31307219
That mod probably isn't taken out though, more likely that they're kneecapped.
One of the popular girls was having a karaoke stream yesterday, and the image limit was hit, but a mod was killing the threads manually whenever they hit the image limit so that they could keep posting until the karaoke was done. That doesn't seem like something the retards who decided this would do, right?
More likely that they're being overruled by someone saying that Vtubers aren't mandated to be in a single thread, despite the general consensus that it's for the best that way.

>> No.31307454

>>31306951
Cause you're probably a /qa/ or /cgl/ nigger.

>> No.31307542
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It takes all my easiness to take it easy like this.

>> No.31307552

>>31307454
ooga booga hol up soyn how did you know an shiet

>> No.31307594

Maybe this is all a trick to teach people a vtuber board is a bad idea

>> No.31307699

>>31307452
that's the gist of it, yeah.

>> No.31307749

>>31307594
well they have done the exact opposite if so

>> No.31307800

>>31307452
but why is posting about the actresses behind the vtuber characters acceptable now when it wasn't ever before?

>> No.31307896

>>31307800
Apparently one of the mods, actually named uwu I think, called Vtubers e-thots and said that they don't deserve "special treatment," but at the same time, I still see those softdox posts deleted from time to time. It's odd, and it feels like the jannies aren't being given any good direction on how to operate now.
Still, they really have to get up on that, some of the stuff that they let people post now are of minors, and that's a fucking huge red flag in the law's eyes.

>> No.31307905

>>31307452
This does seem like hiro's doing.

>>31307800
The amount of threads is now too much for the current mods to handle, probably. In one place it could be policed efficiently.

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>>31302797
Can Touhou fans max out threads (both post and image limit) for a month?

>> No.31307940

>>31307542
i can't take it ez anymore

>> No.31307987

>>31302393
IT IS DESPISED BY HIM!

>> No.31308018

>>31307800
I would believe that was another questionable decision from senior mods
>>31307219
>This isn't about vtubers vs touhou, this is about moderation being removed from /jp/
Agreed. I think most of the us/them (or baiting that) posts are falseflagging.

>> No.31308036

>>31302393
THE OBJECT OF ATTENTION IS THE SOURCE OF GREAT LOATHING BY THE AFOREMENTIONED INDIVIDUAL!

>> No.31308116

>>31308018
>I think most of the us/them (or baiting that) posts are falseflagging.
there's some dude whose spamming the kuso thread image like they've found the pic yesterday. you think that's also one of them as well? cause i think so.

>> No.31308177

>>31308116
Haven't been keeping a close enough eye on it to tell. Not unlikely, I guess.

>> No.31308257

>>31308116
I feel like the general situation right now is just enabling the most new of newfags to go crazy. More likely to be a retard who got a new toy and wants to show off how they know something.

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>>31307929
Of course but y would u do that?
Just let it pass like a kidney stone. We get enough hate just for existing as it is.
Now look at it from a holoshit lovers point of view.
This board was fine until christmas eve. I had and continue to have no issue with hololive enthusiasts but don't spam an entire board with "a".
If you pay attention some of those blatantly obnoxious posts are being nuked.
Any thread with a legit interest in a given thing has been staying around and that's ok. Just needs a bit of organized chaos.

>> No.31308575

>>31302393
him no likey

>> No.31308621

I want to go back to posting on /jp/ how it was before this month.
I want to talk to my friends again in the slow threads. I want to lurk the even slower ones as well.

>> No.31308626

>>31301174
Now, if you learn to use filters.

>> No.31308669

OH NO NO NO NO 2HUBROS
WE GOT TOO COCKY

>> No.31308695

Meido, please just give us a sign. Why can't this board go back to normal.

>> No.31308698

>>31308621
Hoping the VN threads stick around. I don't have the power level required to participate regularly, but would like to join in when certain content drops.

>> No.31308811

>>31308698
They're dead unless they show up again.
>>/jp/thread/S31190199
The catalog is clogged, so I can't see anything other than the group majority threads and a few generals inbetween if they hit bumplimit. I saw some that archived 60-200s range.

>> No.31308829
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>>31308018
To a degree, but some people actually believed it. There's a completely false fanfic thats been accepted as the truth regarding a couple of vtubers, thats kinda hard to explain, but the point is that they went into "the enemies thread" to spread it and just got met with confusion, because it was roughly "vtuber A at one company got vtuber B fired, then because B got fired vtuber C at another company got fired as B and C were close friends, thus it's the A's fault". The problem is A didn't cause B to retire, B is one of the maybe 5 vtubers out of thousands who went on and explicitly said who they were after their debut and marked it up to essentially not wanting to be an entertainer, just a musician, but then went into a block and decided to call it quits, being found by her new producer and moving on as a singer. A couple weeks after B said this in their tweet, C did a stream vaguely talking about how close she was with B, and then dropped the bomb of "B was forcibly retired", which was kinda proof they never actually talked as someone else who isn't a vtuber and thus doesn't get a letter had been hinting at it since before B's statement that she was going through a really rough creative block. On top of the fact that B and C have never actually talked before. Then C went into her (C's) upcoming debut and said some bad things about both companies, which later was the direct cause to her getting fired within weeks, because as it turns out, shitting on a company you're recruited into in a public space is a bad idea!

Does this confuse you? Because it also confused me when I saw it happen.
tl;dr Some of these people unironically believe in this "them versus us" mentality, and it's scary how that kinda shit festers and grows into something unbelievable. Of course there's still falseflagging, but don't write even half of it off as just that.

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WHO NIGGY HERE

>> No.31308875

>>31308856
DAMN

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>>31308875
Bet you didn't see this coming.

>> No.31308986

>>31308829
this drama shit is complete insanity

>> No.31309079

>>31308986
It is absolutely fucking insane. I have no idea how any of that madness even began to start, because there's actual drama they could be talking about instead. I think it's because A was currently a shitposting target, but it takes several leaps in logic to make all of that up.

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>>31308856
>>31308896
Why did you leave us in this chaos, Y10NRDY?

>> No.31309143

>>31308896
the cat thread archived
iykyk
but for real, teach us.
teach us!

>> No.31309170

>>31308811
What a bummer. Only had a couple months to go, too.
The generals that archived early a few days ago were unexpectedly overwhelmed when the moderation change happened. I expect some to hold on with a greater quantity of bumping/reduced post quality in order to stay afloat.
>>31308829
I have no idea what that wall of text has to do with the situation at hand, but alright. I still think most of it is deliberate shitstirring.
How do you make an angry group of people (/jp/ posters) less angry at you (mods who made a bad decision)? By turning them against each other.
On paper, it seems especially easy in this situation, since many posters were already biased against holos. I'm actually surprised it hasn't worked better. Most of the serious posters I've seen haven't been enthusiastic about pinning the blame on anyone except mods.

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>>31309110
Baby, I never left you.

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>>31309143
It's coming. Be patient.

>> No.31309335

>>31309170
>I have no idea what that wall of text has to do with the situation at hand, but alright. I still think most of it is deliberate shitstirring.
The basic gist of it is "some of these people live in a completely different world than reality", providing the most autistic example on both my end and theirs I could provide with my limited knowledge.

>> No.31309361

>>31308811
Why is there a translated vns thread on /jp/ anyway? shouldn't it be in /vg/ instead?

>> No.31309379

>>31309170
>I'm actually surprised it hasn't worked better.
Being from the Holo side more, I have to wonder if it had anything to do with the 2hu crossover stream a few days before everything happened. One of them played that new bubble bobble game, and the thread really starting going into 2hu for a while. Even one of the mods made an apperance talking about how 2hu and Holos can get along. Maybe that sentiment starting to build just before the other mods fucked things up had an impact?
>>31309079
That's interesting, where can I go to read up about it?

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>>31309253
I don't know what's happening but I like it

>> No.31309537

>>31309379
>crossover stream
I don't know, maybe. It probably had to do with how well people were coexisting before shit hit the fan. I really never witnessed any infighting, nor did I personally mind either majority group as things were before. Everyone was minding their own business, and everyone was taken by surprise at the same time.

>> No.31309586

>>31309170
>I'm actually surprised it hasn't worked better.
I don't think there's any real acrimony between the two camps, despite some people trying to force it a bit. The main feeling I get is that this is a half-assed half-measure that pleases no-one. Touhou will always survive on /jp/, but all the other, smaller threads will be lost and that's the real loss.

>> No.31309588

>>31308856
yabai yabai...

>> No.31309611

>>31301174
I'm holofag but I hate the state of /jp/, fucking tranny dogfucker mod i hope he kills himself soon.

>> No.31309620

>>31309379
>Even one of the mods made an apperance talking about how 2hu and Holos can get along.
That's more damning for the Hololive threads than it is... whatever the opposite of damning is. Thread's don't need to get along, and if there's already an anti-touhou sentiment there to the point mods notice and talk about it is not a good look.

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Tourist but oldfag here. Would it help if 2hus organize themselves into generals just to keep the activity high and actually bump off the holo splinter threads? I know generals aren't /jp/ culture, but wouldn't a rebirth of traffic and OC preferable to extinction?

>> No.31309741

>>31309586
>all the other, smaller threads will be lost and that's the real loss.
Don't let them get away with this decision then. There's still time to change it back.

>> No.31309743

>>31309661
Nah, it'd never work.
For example if you tried to make an /oldhag/ general you'd end up with Okinaposters and Junkoposters doxxing each other and sending each other letterbombs.

>> No.31309753

>>31309661
>generals generals generals
this is why 4chan keeps getting worse

>> No.31309776

>>31309586
Yeah. I always got the impression that touhou threads were filling up empty space on the board. If things ever get really, really dire, I could imagine them condensing to 1 thread and surviving (although not in an ideal way for them). The same can't be said for many topics.
>>31309661
Again, 2hu and holo aren't the only things on /jp/. The niche topics are the ones really in danger, and they won't survive with that plan or in the current state of /jp/.

>> No.31309891

People don't understand that 2hufags are a part of the smaller threads

>> No.31309918

>>31306620
it's all so tiring
lets just go to sleep together and piss on the floor when we wake up 2hubro
ill see you at the next /jp/ meetup

>> No.31309946

>>31309620
It wasn't talking about them not liking the 2hus, the thread culture was actually pretty chill about 2hu since one person came in to complain that his thread got killed, and anons made sure to pay attention to that one and see if he was still ok. But there was an idea that 2hu fans and Holo fans were two separate groups of fans that only shared a board, but the mod wanted to make it clear that you can/should like both.
>>30958438
That's the post I'm talking about. A lot of people got their feet wet when it comes to 2hu from that.

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>>31301174
Can you stop doomposting already newfag?

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>>31302393

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>>31309611
I'm a touhoufag and I'm with you buddy.
Mods are being fags. I have no issue with you.
Other decent interests are getting screwed over too.

>> No.31310029

>>31309661
Splinter threads have been bumped off, but then they get made again, or made with a different topic but roughly about the same person so they take up more space on the board, a rebirth of OC when its frogposting is unwanted, and you're retarded if you think out of all the options there are bending over and spreading our cheeks while asking them to screw up gently is the best choice. I'm not saying "we gotta fight them with our stone filled fumos!" but for fucks sake, man, people don't just open the gates when there's an invasion.

>> No.31310070

>>31309661
>Would it help if 2hus organize themselves into generals just to keep the activity high and actually bump off the holo splinter threads?
No.
It wouldn't.
If you're an oldfag, they you might already know that 4chan is based off of 2chan. 2chan has a VTuber board and two Touhou boards.
Endless generals will not work when it is shown already that both can survive separately from one another. All this does is force both to compete over something artificial.

>> No.31310244

>>31307037
/jp/ used to be a shitposting hellhole a decade ago, yes.
why are holoniggers so disingenuous?

>> No.31310293

>>31309891
I can say pretty confidently that both of the small threads I read generally consist of people here for that specific autism.
Also
>falseflagging mentioned
>thread suddenly floods with shitposting
Maybe I'm paranoid, but hmm...

>> No.31310502

>>31309946
>BASED MEIDO BASED BASED
god these replies are awful

>> No.31310639

>>31310502
Based really needs to be filtered into いいね already.

>> No.31310644

Maybe meido is trying to force us into liking vtubershit.

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>>31310502
Well, this is the userbase of that thread in particular afterall.

>> No.31310686

>>31310502
Yeah not really the people you want to "unite" with

>> No.31310760

>>31310644
it only made me dislike vtubers more

>> No.31310812

>>31310502
Not as bad as the Suigintou GET.

>> No.31310818

>>31310644
There's a difference between eating a tasty pizza willingly and having someone trash your house and then force you to eat a tasty pizza at gunpoint.

>> No.31310825

>>31310760
same

>> No.31310911

every thread you create I will start 2 from vtubers until you stop complaining because your threads get drowned and you are effectively wiped out from this board.

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31310950

>>31310911
You don't even know english.

>> No.31310981

>>31310911
Learn english.

>> No.31311016

>>31310911
1. Fuck off /qa/
2. No you won't
3. Even if you did it would expedite the creation of a vtuber board anyway

>> No.31311033

>>31310812
Yeah I saw that

>> No.31311078

>>31310950 >>31310981
Make me hijos de puta

>> No.31311188

>>31311078
ooga booga, here's a pity (You)

>> No.31311201

>>31310683
Its not exactly news that hololive have bring plenty of tourists to /jp/ and current siuation even brings various shitposters from other sources.

>> No.31311239

>>31311078
Damn Germans, when will they learn

>> No.31311302

>>31310070
>even 2chan knows to separate the two

Well mods? Lets go. You know what to do.

>> No.31311440

Stop flooding /jp/ with threads dedicated to vtubers. They're unnecessary, you're not alone on this board and the onahole general can barely keep up with the spam.

>> No.31311601

>>31311440
It's falseflaggers and faggots. Most of /hlgg/ and /hlg/ doesn't want this.

>> No.31311694
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>>31310812
>>30000772
>>30000923
>>30000452
>>30000633
>>30000638
>>30000736
Rozen Maiden or how that shit is called is irrelevant and always was. This is the Touhou board, retards, and Touhou is known by everyone, even if they don't even know a shit about it or care about it. I only knew about the maid character because of desu posting, but everything else? Irrelevant. Pointless. Absolutely fucking WHO, WHEN, WHAT and WHERE. That's the difference between your pathetic shit anime and an actual successful franchise loved by everyone that keeps producing great fan arts, music, doujin, content of any kind. What did your desu shit anime produce? I'll tell you what: autism.
This board wouldn't exist without Touhou, and we wouldn't be here discussing Hololive (another thing more relevant and fun than your retarded anime nobody but 3 faggots and another 3 who died from old age watched). We should cast off every single faggot who didn't even get a single 1cc on any Touhou game on Normal, just to filter pathetic retards like you that think that spamming "desu" 1 billion times is any fun or do not possess the ability to push a few buttons and dodge a few bullets for 40 mins.

Not my fault you're coping because you wasted 20 years here. Go desu yourself out of existence. This is not even about "muh culture", because the board culture is Touhou, everything else is us allowing you on this board discussing your worthless shit. It's time to let go, oldfarts, everything you used to love is fucking pathetic compared to Touhou. Kneel and suck ZUN's dick, and remember to take it easy, so that I can keep see you seething here forever. Long live Touhou.
>but my defining 4chan culture
Died instantly, was unpopular, boring and stale and nobody cares about it anymore. Just like you, by the way.
>T-Touhou is dying too
False. Seethe, it's over retards. I just destroyed you.

>> No.31311709

>>31311302
I think mods want /jp/ to be the vtuber board anyway. Things are going to go in that direction as the tourists overwhelm the existing userbase. There will be a massive influx as vtubers get more popular. It's gonna be cancer. I can see why some people who currently find the holo generals comfy dislike that, too.
If the vtuber people don't want their own board (and I could imagine why they wouldn't), you can even just put them back in containment threads. I think the only reason not to is that mods would have to roll back a decision, admitting fault.

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>>31310502
welcome to nu-/jp/, I hope you enjoy your stay

>> No.31311783

>>31311694
Who are you quoting?

>> No.31311822
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>>31311694
cool it my guy

>> No.31311866
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31311866

Splitting threads up into individual vtubers isn't even nearly as fun as just having a single community. I feel bad for the holofags who have to keep track of 2-3 threads at the same time

>> No.31311888

>>31311078
untermensch

>> No.31311892

>>31310818
This is a stupid analogy, because it implies that vtubers are "tasty".
I don't care about girls doing cute anime noises, I'm not 13 anymore. I don't live off parasocial relations.

>> No.31311915

>>31311694
tage id eashy

>> No.31311962

>>31311866
I'm sure you guys are looking forward to character wars between different vtubers. That will get worse when you're not all in the same place. Good luck.

>> No.31312598

>>31311601
>/hlgg/
move it to /trash/ where it belongs, this shouldn't even be part of the issue

>> No.31312633

>>31308501
>>31307929
>>31310016
>>31311694
>>31311866
I came to jp for hlg threads in mid-June, and I can confidently say that the majority of these individual chuuba threads are going to lose momentum within a week, as there really isn't enough there for a single chuuba to stimulate more than a couple week's worth of discussion.
The only time the individual threads get more than 50 replies are when they are either rampantly roommate posting, shizo posting, or when there is a specific event spurring on discussion.
These fractured hololive threads suck scrote, anyone who wants them/is making them is just trying to harm jp for fun. Neither side wants this, and there is no real reason for a couple of individual holo threads per day.

>> No.31312698

>>31312633
no real reason for more than a couple individual holo threads per day* fuck

>> No.31313225

>>31311016
>le /qa/ boogeyman
How tiresome.
The board that has max 100-200 users vs the board (or rather holoniggers) with 1000s. I wonder who's the cause behind the threads.

>> No.31313288

>>31311601
/hlgg/ shouldn't exist in the first place, it's english vtubers. if english indies get told to fuck off to trash then naturally holoshitters should too, but holy based poggers mod keeps his favourites on the board.

>> No.31315878

>>31301471
The words.. just popped immediately into my head... What is this..?

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>>31310502
Welcome to the homogeneous internet mono-culture.

Now off to rack up those internet points!

>> No.31316979

>>31313225
this could easily be the work of 10 or 20 dedicated autists, and i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it was. pretty much all the real holofags on the board are still sticking to their generals.

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>>31316979
I'll let you guess who is who.
It could be 10 autists from /cgl/ for all we know, but it's much more likely people saw an opportunity to shit up the board and took it.

>> No.31318292

>>31313225
Hmm, I'm sure someone who popped into the thread, misused the quote function and used outdated /v/-slang is someone who cares about /jp/ and not a /qa/ shit stirrer trying to deflect the blame.
You'd have had more credibility if you just kept your mouth shut.

>> No.31319285

>>31316150
cool boogeyman, but like I said, you might want to switch it up. you're supposed to use /pol/ to deflect blame because they're the fastest board on this site.
you're not supposed to use a board that is 2500% slower than yours.

>> No.31319334

>>31311709
Touhou's been a dying fad for years. What's the point of /jp/ just being a Touhou board?

>> No.31319356

>>31319285
/pol/ is too busy worrying about January 6.

>> No.31319441

>>31319356
A third of them probably flocked to /int/ to learn japanese anyway.

>> No.31319499

>>31301471
>naver
it was a fucking korean who made this all along

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>>31301174
As a Holofag I want this shit to end already. The General threads are getting worse by the day

>> No.31319600

>>31319503
>The General threads are getting worse by the day
wdym

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>>31313225
Aah yes, a boogeyman, when it only takes two different dedicated autists to derail an entire thread, Face it, the meidos don't give a single fuck anymore.
>>31316750
>>31316801
>>>/qa/3738436

>> No.31319720

>>31310502
You don't agree?

>> No.31319817

>>31319503
General threads, as a rule, only get "better" when whatever the topic is becomes irrelevant and entertaining to all but primary source consumers. And even then anons at large will just call it "dead."
HYPE attracts increasingly tangential and meta commentary because anons begin coming to thread just as a general chatroom around a topic, and have increasingly less reservations in getting whatever engagement they want out of it.

It's like putting fish in a barrel. Have enough fish, and eventually someone is just going to enjoy taking potshots at the barrel.

>> No.31319861

>>31319672
Both those posts are deleted

>> No.31319950

>>31319861
Yeah, if only all the other /v/ tier posts got deleted but unless its clearly spelled out he doesn't give a fuck.

>> No.31320089

Mods already getting tired of this fad, soon the vtuber posting will slow down.

>> No.31320289

>>31319817
>and entertaining
*unentertaining
Not a word, I meant boring.

>>31319950
>but unless its clearly spelled out he doesn't give a fuck
Since jannies don't reveal themselves if they want to keep their hot pockets, not sure what you are expecting. The only time anything was spelled out on /jp/ recently was when a mod mentioned the auto-archiving of threads at a certain post count, which is literally a technical change in how threads operate. If that's what is deemed sufficiently large to spell out, I'm pretty sure this is all minor in comparison.
Anyway, I think you're starting with the argument they don't give a fuck, and using inductive reasoning from there.

>> No.31320297

>>31319600
Doxxposting, baitpost and retards replying to those post, less and less discussion about the fucking streams, less original content, falseflaggers and more shit like that. Of course this was already happening before but nowhere as bad as this. If you want proof just read the threads of today.
>>31319817
Spot on

>> No.31320447

>>31320297
I'll take a look.

>> No.31320697

>>31320297
Yeah the threads are cancer right now, but in Spring they were the first time in a while I found a community online I fit into. Nothing gold can last

>> No.31321250 [DELETED] 

>>31320297
Well, there's no way to stop idiots.
The best way would be to either wait until it blows over, resort to gatekeeping, or return to the old ways of /jp/.

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>>31320289
>inductive reasoning
I won't deny that I'm not, but moderation seems extremely more laxed compared to the past 7-8ish months ago. I always forget when the weekend comes around.
I just need to take it easy on the jay

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>>31319817
so prety much same thing as popular stuff starting to attaract new people who just claim to like it but never really had done more than scratched the surface, also as offtopic its quite funny that people like these have any power in whatever fanbase they infest, i blame the fact that there is no gatekeeping at all nowdays since more people means more money in most cases, and well gatekeeping really would cut those profits, and imean prety much every potential fanbase not just /jp/ related stuff.

>> No.31321644

>>31306193
/incel/ - Internet Celebrities

>> No.31321646

>>31301174
>he doesn't know this is the new normal
Lol, were you one of the retards who thought coronavirus would end in April too?

>> No.31321672

Why don't idolshitters and seiyufags just join in and make a thread for their individual personalities? Might as well just fuck this board up completely. Hell, why don't you touhoufags just go full retard and make a thread for every touhou.

>> No.31321758

>>31321672
>Hell, why don't you touhoufags just go full retard and make a thread for every touhou.
But that's what they have always done, which is why it's hilarious they're being such whiny baby hypocrites now.

>> No.31321763

>>31306392
>Neither of the threads want their own board
Speak for yourself faggot. Things are better now.

>> No.31321892

>>31321758
>But that's what they have always done, which is why it's hilarious they're being such whiny baby hypocrites now.
Yeah, that's why I'm telling them to go full retard like what Hololive is doing now. I want all the other generals to break down their disussions as well. Let's all have undividual threads for a good onahole, let's all have individual threads for each seiyuu, let's all have individual threads for japanese shows, let's all bump each other off.

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>>31321758
there is not even enough thread slots for all 2hus so good luck attempting that.

>> No.31322123

>>31322037
There's not enough Touhou discussion to full one thread let alone a whole board

>> No.31322134

who knows

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>>31321758
Yes. I'm very upset. Look at me whining.

>> No.31322185

>>31322123
Doesn't matter. Mods won't get rid of it.

>> No.31322268

>>31320447
If you're particularly interested, look for the one where miko streamed men in black (1997)
Its up there with one of the worst threads this month.

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Any new word from the mods?

Is the IRC really a mod battleground?

>> No.31322326

>>31322123
there is, its not just in state of twitch chat that most of new tourist wants, which also really need some ADHD meds.

>> No.31322598

>>31322326
Nice job contradicting yourself

>> No.31322861

>>31322185
No one's saying get rid of Touhou. The point is: Touhou doesn't need the whole fucking board. Just keep posting Touhou as y'normally do.

>> No.31323067

>>31322861
And I'm not saying get rid of Touhou. All I'm saying is anybody can make whatever they want and the mods won't moderate.

>> No.31323242

The only good thing to come out of this is that Holostars finally have their own general.

>> No.31323364

>>31323242
It didn't even reduce the amount of shitposting in the main holo thread

>> No.31323420

>>31322598
how so? the fact there is not enough place for all the 2hus to have a thread is one thing and the fact that /jp/ regulars dont want to board to be fucking twitch chat is hardly anything contradicting

>> No.31323779

>>31322296
I don't even know how there's a battleground in the first place. You'd think a couple of mods would just come along, say fuck you to the senior mod, and clean up their mess.

>> No.31323831

>>31323364
Why would it?

>> No.31323855

>>31323779
you never know about inner circlejerks.

>> No.31323932

I'm sorry 2hu bros
I was joking about the genocide I didn't actually think it would happen...

>> No.31324114

>>31319334
whether touhou dominates or not isn't so important. what's more important is that the board remains slow enough for more niche topics like the myriad generals and miscellaneous japanese culture threads to survive without 24/7 ambient shitposting and bumping, and that the board culture remains.

>> No.31324975

>>31319334
>fad
>for years

>> No.31332441

>>31309753
4chan getting worse general
>arguin
>greentextin
>2hu postin
revenge for Pearl Harbor edition

>> No.31333907

>>31310070
>2chan has a VTuber board and two Touhou boards.
Then why won't the whining 2hu fans here just go there? Otherwise, quit complaining and just work with the existing threads here.

>> No.31333926

>>31332441
Bros where’s the pastebin wtf

>> No.31333928

>>31324114
>miscellaneous japanese culture threads to survive without 24/7 ambient shitposting and bumping

POST MOAR

If those threads can't survive, then they are not worth having in the first place.

>> No.31333941

for ages and ages i wondered why the mods had this retarded double standard about what franchises were allowed to have character threads and what franchises were not

glad to see they finally fixed the problem

>> No.31334454

>>31333941
>glad to see they finally fixed the problem
lmao

>> No.31334486

>>31323420
>not enough place for all the 2hus to have a thread
How much space do you fucks need? Just make your damned threads.

>> No.31334523

>>31323067
>anybody can make whatever they want
Now that's an exaggeration. Do you see anyone making /sp/ or /pol/ type threads? No.

>> No.31334561

>>31334523
They soon will.

>> No.31335058

>>31323364
What does it have to do with /hlgg/?

>> No.31336187

>>31333907
2chan is a Japanese website
http://www.2chan.net/

>> No.31336229

One day, just one day without 2hutrannies whining and complaining, all i ask for

>> No.31336683

>>31334561
doomposting to a tee

>> No.31336759

>>31309753
It honestly does bug me how anons are so hard set in their ways that they just stick to generals rather than make one-off threads.
Though anyone on /jp/ who dislikes holos being able to make non-general threads now should have no issue when they proceed to do just that.

>> No.31338082

>>31311694
>>T-Touhou is dying too
>False.
Anon, there were only 60k viewers on new gacha announce stream 25 years anniversary stream. Vtubers get 20k on average casual streams.

>> No.31338604

>>31338082
It's almost like people primarily play the games. I don't even agree with that guy, but it's obvious that the viewership of a stream announcing a gacha game doesn't even come close to accurately measuring how many people like Touhou as a whole, that includes the games and manga and all that. Meanwhile, streams are what vtubers do, it's what people follow and get invested in them for. Of course they would average that many views.

>> No.31342305

>>31338082
Granblue Fantasy is one of the biggest gacha games in the world, so is Puzzle and Dragon, and they both get roughly 70-80k for their announcement streams. I've even seen P&D go up to 100k before. The fact that the 25th anniversary stream "only had 60k" when its competing with games that have tens of millions of players and managed to get a slightly worse viewcount isn't a bad thing, you fucking drama queen.

>> No.31342431

>>31301174
>W-why does my dead game not have any threads?!
Stop pretending

>> No.31342649

>>31342431
Who are you quoting?

>> No.31342654

@31342431
Abysmal bait.

>> No.31342726

>>31311694
what's touhou?

>> No.31342728

>>31342649
Literal blindfag detected

>> No.31342776

>>31342726
Sounds like some shitty Undertale rip-off.

>> No.31343076

>>31342305
>>31338604
That guy talks only about youtube viewers, the stream had more viewers on some nip streaming site(at least that's what other anons told me in other threads).

>> No.31343342

>>31343076
The same applies to all of them, but the point is his argument really holds no ground. Which you know, is the same of 90% of the shitposters in this very thread.

>> No.31344159

When in doubt, always blame the mods. I despise Vtuber culture in it's entirety but you don't see me complaining about it, because they're not the ones at fault for how messy things are right now.

>> No.31344678

>>31319817
The problem with this hype around Hololive is even worse than normal as the people that are just attracted because it is popular literally can’t understand the content that is being discussed. If you make a post asking people what they thought of a stream that just finished you will usually get 2-5 replies. If you make a post asking people their height and weight 40+ people will come scurrying out from the floorboards to reply (real example by the way). This also leads to more in fighting between threads and stirring up board drama like we are seeing now. They can’t actually participate in the discussion in the thread so they take what surface level information they have, usually softdoxx infographics or narrative/drama and take them boards like /v/, /vg/, /pol/, and /qa/ so that they can have discussions and answer questions from people who know even less than them. This pisses off people from those boards and brings more and more negative attention and tourists to /jp/.

Hopefully the hype will die down soon and we can return to normal. Purely in principle I don’t thing the individual Holo threads would be that bad for the board (although I also don’t think they are really needed since I think generals are best for live content) but the difference in volume currently is just ruining the board and until the popularity dies way down the mods should be keeping it to one thread.

>> No.31344849

>>31342728
Yeah but who are you quoting?

>> No.31344923

>>31344678
>the people that are just attracted because it is popular literally can’t understand the content that is being discussed.
Seriously though. How many fucking people on the boards that these masses came from actually speak Japanese? I never understood it; vtubers seem like an exclusively N2 thing. I can get listening to something in another language you don't understand, that's how most of the people (like myself) made the decision to properly work on learning Japanese over the past several decades of otaku culture making it's way in any capacity to the west, but to spend hours and hours posting about something in content as it's happening live I.E. without subs, when they haven't even been studying for a full year yet if anything?

I don't understand how that's possible.

>> No.31344927

>>31344849
Blindfag can't figure it out

>> No.31345086

>>31333907
ONLY the JAPANESE can post there genius.

>> No.31345543

>>31301174
This is the new /jp/! You could have faked a disaster by not bumping non-vtuber threads, but you didn't and most things survived which makes the change look better! Good job, /jp/!

>> No.31345606

>>31344923
I mean I guess it’s because of the translated clips but it’s still confusing. Someone can ‘get into’ Hololive watching clips but when they come to the thread they still can’t participate in discussion because there are no real live translations so they either post off topic or go elsewhere to post about it as I was saying.

>> No.31346097

>>31344927
who you be quoting my dude?

>> No.31346184

>>31333928
>If those threads can't survive, then they are not worth having in the first place.
Not an argument
People don't reply because the entire board is on autosage.
Why would you bother replying if you're not even going to bump the thread even though you want to?
You see a thread you want to bump from page 10, but oh no the board is on autosage so replying won't mean jack shit.

>> No.31346843

>>31346184
Almost every other board has to deal with that. And they're just fine.

>> No.31346904

>>31344678
>until the popularity dies way down the mods should be keeping it to one thread.
How many years are you looking to wait for that to happen?

>> No.31347113

>>31336759
You're saying that you'll accept dedicated KanColle character threads?

>> No.31347291

>>31346843
Just because it works in one place doesn't mean it works everywhere else. It's killing threads and some are beginning to fond that they literally cannot bump threads.

>> No.31347406

>>31347291
>fond
Find

>> No.31347838

>>31344927
I can't figure out who you're trying to quote my man

>> No.31348835

>>31333928
shut the fuck up retard. not every board has to be /v/.

>> No.31349025

>>31346097
>>31347838
literal blind still can't figure it out

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I'll admit, I'm a newbie here but I can't believe how many people here are acting like children. Hololive and Vtubers are here to stay. Learn to coexist.

>> No.31349211

>>31346904
Might be less time that you think. The board posts speed already stopped increasing consistently after September this year after it had been increasing all year because of it. Now all that is left is for people here to lose interest unless something else big happens to bring in even more people.

>> No.31349532 [DELETED] 

>>31349211
This is also my observation.
The day /jp/ hit 49.9k ppd, the change happened.
At night, the board reached 19 for the first time in forever.

>> No.31349604

>>31349165
>Learn to coexist.
They were coexisting perfectly before.

>> No.31350070

>>31349532
You can see here
>>31317887
after that spike to 80k when the English ones debut, it seems to be roughly around 50k with spikes and dips depending on if anything interesting is happening

>> No.31350453

Verified reports indicate that the holojanny was bullied into suicide by the rest of the staff. It's over.

>> No.31350621

>>31350453
lolwut?

>> No.31350630

>>31349165
>I'll admit, I'm a newbie
Post discarded.

>> No.31350890

>>31350621
I don't know.
Not him but the only thing that confuses me is the statement about still ongoing.
>>/jp/thread/S31346981#p31349687

They need to be contained again or given a separate board seeing as they're already splitting off into several threads because they can't stop arguing with one another (raiding threads).

>> No.31351029

>>31350890
Recontainment is the answer that the vast majority of people agree with, but mods are fags, so expect a lot of bullshit until they find a way to do it without hurting their pride or some bullshit

>> No.31351224

>>31351029
There was already speculation that this was an experiment. They could easily say that this week December 21-27 was a test to see if they warrant their own board since there's already a thread (daily) on /qa/ advocating to get them their own board.

>> No.31351619

>>31351224
I hope they take that out and just go back to how things were. Even if the rules for it are arbitrary, it's better to have arbitrary rules that fit the actual reality of things over trying to implement the standard ones without adapting to the situation at all.
I still don't have any idea what the hell is going on with /qa/, though. Some odd fucking shit in that place.

>> No.31351674

>>31351619
>Some odd fucking shit in that place.
I agree.
The shark post is still up too.

>> No.31351718

>>31351619
>I hope they take that out and just go back to how things were. Even if the rules for it are arbitrary, it's better to have arbitrary rules that fit the actual reality of things over trying to implement the standard ones without adapting to the situation at all.
>>31351674
I agree to the first portion. I forgot to quote it.

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>>31309918
>/jp/ meetup
Haha good shit >>/jp/thread/12370248

>> No.31352300

>>31352047
maybey we can meet on vrc

>> No.31352411

>>31349604
Well, not perfectly, but they were to a degree. What's happening now would be like if /m/ allowed a thread for every sentai, and also was merged with /a/ because /m/ doesn't actually have the userbase to support that to this degree anyways.

>> No.31353134

I don't post in meta threads anymore since it's clear moderation stopped giving a shit about this board but I think something needs to be cleared up:
The /hlg/ and /hlgg/ distinction doesn't exist anymore. The Hololive Global thread now goes by the name of /hlg/, there's no other thread.
Thanks for your understanding.

>> No.31353215

>>31353134
>The /hlg/ and /hlgg/ distinction doesn't exist anymore.
It literally never did; that was just something you told yourselves. You're all still EOP's watching Hololive.

>> No.31353235

>>31352047
>look for white people

>> No.31353284

>>31353215
>EOP
what does that stand for?

>> No.31353378

>>31353284
English Only Peasant.
SEA is SouthEast Asia
ESL is English Second Language

Look it up next time dudester.

>> No.31353644

>>31353215
They technically aren't watching hololive but poorly translated clips of hololive from a SEAnigger or a chink

>> No.31353752

Hypocrite 2hukeks keep seething over vtubers but somehow they are ignore the fact that 2hu vtubers were a thing even before Kizuna Ai's debut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvXBYNkzcGE

>> No.31354138

Is there some way to find out who is the current mods of the site? I wanna hang out with them in person.

>> No.31354241

What is to stop someone that sits on a bunch of mutual funds and a lot of free time to go get a plane ticket and hang out with Hiroki for a bit?

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>>31308116

>> No.31355138

>>31353752
I don't see no superberries or cancerous tw*tch chat there.

>> No.31355209

>>31336187
>>31345086
just learn japanese losers
pretty pathetic that it's /jp/ but no one outside the hated vtuber threads can actually speak japanese

>> No.31355609

>>31355209
It's not an issue of knowing japanese, it's a 'you need to physically live in japan' kind of issue. They don't allow posters outside of japan.

>> No.31355764

>>31355609
Use vpn

>> No.31356007

>>31355764
>Use vpn
He doesn't know.

>> No.31356055

It's been almost a week now. What do you think?

>> No.31356062

>>31356007
Loser can't even access a site pff
Jp is full of tech-illiterates

>> No.31356237

hololive and vtuber threads get more posts per hour than every other thread on this board combined

>> No.31356358

>>31311694
I'll let people know that I'm a hard touhou fan and I don't think the same as this, the only thing I hate is Hololive and vtubers

>> No.31356485

>>31355209
>just learn japanese losers
>>31355609
>Use vpn
doesn't work

0/10

>> No.31356503

>>31356485
I bet you can't speak japanese

>> No.31356577

>>31355209
>no one outside the hated vtuber threads can actually speak japanese
There's... literally been an untranslated VN thread and japanese learning thread and comiket threads for years...

>> No.31356625

>>31356577
>untranslated VN
They're untranslated for a reason, none of them can actually translate them
>djt
Those are just larpers mindlessly doing anki for 20 minutes a day

>> No.31356760

>>31334486
never said we need so much space, just informed that there is not enough space for every diffrent 2hu to have thread if we wanted to have them.

>> No.31356880

>>31356577
There's been a japanese learning thread for years and /jp/ still doesn't know japanese? What a sad state of affairs.

>> No.31356929

>>31307929
Go to /v/ and you'll see it happen three times a day.
It's not the /jp/ way.

>> No.31356949

>>31356880
Who is this "/jp/" guy? Is he taking any lessons?

>> No.31356964

>>31334486
150 slots in the catalog
160+ characters in total
it's a mathematical impossibility unless you pair two up.

>> No.31357964

Keep the meta thread alive this is the best thread on the board

>> No.31358061

The current threads/hour speed is 3, it's the same as before. This means stuff isn't actually archiving faster now, right?

>> No.31358104
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I miss mod posts. Even if they were usually shit, they at least filled us in on what the fuck was going on when something big happened.

This complete silence is unnerving and only helps to further tarnish the staff's already bottom barrel reputation with endless speculations from the posters.

>> No.31358234

>>31319334
It's never been *just* a 2hu board
>>31320297
>/vg/ levels or shithousery
yeap that's what happens when more and more people get to experience anonymity

>> No.31358247

>>31358061
If they were still contained, the archival speed would be slower even with the duplicate threads the general makes.

>> No.31358273

>>31320697
>but in Spring they were the first time in a while I found a community online I fit into.
really?

>> No.31358411

so it seems that someone is trying to drag what is basically the only thread I go to on /jp/ into this mess.
do we have an update on whats going on?

>> No.31358436

/hlgg/ giving the news regarding our situation
https://vocaroo.com/11cf1jkcrw4d

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>>31358247
In all of my screenshots the pph never exceeds 5. Of course, right after this change occurred there's no doubt it spiked, but if it stays at or less than 5, that should be proof things haven't changed that much, and it would take the same effort keeping one of the generals alive as it did before the rule change. I would still like a new board or at least some word from the mods, but this seems more reasonable now if things are going to even out in the long run.

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>>31358104
>I miss mod posts.
No, I don't quite think you do.

Horrific shit aside, it's pretty clear whats happened and it's going to be like this for a while.

>> No.31358589

>>31358273
Yes. There are people there who hadn't visited this site in years and got back into it this way. They've gotten a lot shittier since, but that's how things are. Everything is ephemeral, and online communities especially so. I feel like some of us have the bad tendency to overvalue this stuff as a substitute for having real friends, or perhaps it's my tendency. When an online community goes to shit it's like losing a group of friends. That's why having real friends is important, despite how much I enjoy anonymity.

>> No.31358615

>>31358411
Which thread?

>> No.31358642

>>31358445
wow, /b/'s numbers are pitiful.

>> No.31358682

>>31358642
It's just a porn dump now

>> No.31358688

>>31358445
We beat /b/ in post-speed at that point whenever it was, and these people are trying to say they're normal.

Christ, I need a drink.

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>>31358688
It's gotten pretty fast.

>> No.31358793

>>31358744
We beat /pol/ in post frequency, congratulations /jp/!

>> No.31358932

>>31358615
prefer not say as I have no interest in drawing more attention to it, but didn't seem like the kind of thing that would get caught up in it, i guess maybe it still hasn't since I can tell the difference between the posts from regulars and the guy attempting to blend in as a regular in order to start drama , I'm hoping everyone else can and are simply not commenting.

>> No.31358935

>>31358744
Merry fucking christmas.

>> No.31358964

>>31358744
If you woul've told me 6 years ago the Jay would be the fastest board on 4chan I'd have laughed you off

>> No.31358986 [DELETED] 

>>31358642
/b/ died fully in 2017

>> No.31359027

>>31358964
Omedetou

>> No.31359158

>>31358744
Jesus christ. I knew /jp/ was the fastest board right now, but not this much.
Mods, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.31359202

>>31358744
Hmm, turning one a slow board into one of the fastest ones seems like the work of a 'cultural phenomenon' deserving of its own board to me.
But what do I know, I'm just a worthless peon and not a well-respected and highly-paid meido.

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>>31359202
I made a typo.
I'm sorry friends, I will now commit teriyaki to restore my honor.

>> No.31359428

>>31358589
I feel you. In my case, I do have real friends, but I can't talk about certain interests with them since they don't give a fuck. IMO the best strategy is to find a smaller community that hasn't developed cancer yet. It's always a shame when a community randomly becomes an idiot magnet.

>> No.31359447

>>31359202
Seriously. This is EXACTLY what you you create a new board for.

>> No.31359506
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31359506

I like it here. We don't need new board.

>> No.31359533

>>31359202
I'm pretty sure they think the existing content isn't important enough to preserve. It's like they're thinking "/jp/ used to be a purposeless board, now it has a reason to exist: being the vtuber board" or something.

>> No.31359572

>>31359533
moot would never have let this happen.
That stupid retarded faggot I miss him so much.

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>>31359533
You got it

>> No.31359673

>>31359202
Feel bad for the anons here years before it attracted 12 year olds and /v/-tards who'll now get kicked to a board along with them.

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>2hupedos still assblasted over holochad domination
Feels good, thanks for the board cucks. Enjoy slowly disappearing into irrelevance like your franchise did.

>> No.31359808

>>31359750
Back to one of your off-threads tranny.

>> No.31359876

>>31358589
>>31320697
I use to be part of a forum a long time ago, I put a lot of emotional investment into it, even donated to it. But there was a girl there who basically put a lot of guys there under her spell, which I guess tends to happen with a forum full of guys with no experience with women. Didn't care for her but for tried to keep my head down , but her whole spiels about being so lonely despite having a boyfriend and apparently no problem getting new ones really bothered me, so one day I told her what I really thought about that . The white knights there (what we called simps back then) didn't like that,
not one bit.
They successfully lobbied to have me banned from the site. I was pretty devastated, for many years that place was my life.

4chan was the only place I found that could have nerdy/geeky discussion without the whole "girl gives us attention and now we must worship her" syndrome

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dumb /qa/ trannies get out

>> No.31359931

>>31359876
Where can I unsubscribe from your blog?
>>31359880
Go back to your thread holocuck

>> No.31359937

>>31358932
If you are talking about the thread I think you are, I'd like to think most people are just waiting for a mod to sweep away the handful of people clearly shitting up the thread

>> No.31359936

>>31359447
They need make a board for those guys already.

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>>31359808
And back to your Touhou image dump threads for you, maybe you'll keep them alive for more than a day for once.

>> No.31360007

>>31359657
ALTERNATIVE-kun...

>> No.31360015

>>31359950
I'm not 2hu, retard.

>> No.31360032

>>31308829
>There's a completely false fanfic thats been accepted as the truth regarding a couple of vtubers
That is a completely false fanfic, as your claim of "On top of the fact that B and C have never actually talked before" is unsubstantiated and "Then C went into her (C's) upcoming debut and said some bad things about both companies" is completely false. "which later was the direct cause to her getting fired within weeks, because as it turns out, shitting on a company you're recruited into in a public space is a bad idea!" is also completely false.
The story is that C was harassed for talking about B and making the company she (B) was with look bad, because sleuths uncovered the video where she talked about that and exposed it to thousands of people, meanwhile the original audience of said video was almost nonexistant since she was a nobody. This caused fans of the company that B was part of to harass C. She (C) was not fired from her company for shitting on it, as she was not with that company at the time of the video nor did she mention them before debuting as part of that company. C quit of her own volition because she was intimidated by the endless harassment, even claiming her personal life began getting involved. The company was willing to take her back, but she refused.

>> No.31360067

More forced fanwars posting...

>> No.31360072

>>31359876
I wonder how it feels coming to 4chan for people who never posted on forums. It feels nice when you can tell someone what you really think without risking a ban. Still, no online friendship compares to the real thing. It's too bad the world's forcing us onto the internet more and more these days, but it'll be better once we can freely associate again.

>> No.31360138

>>31360072
I hope that they leave once they are no longer forced to live a more online-focused lifestyle...

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>>31359931
>holocuck
can you go be a braindead faggot somewhere else?

>> No.31360428

>>31360272
Only holofags trying to blame /qa/. Even if you falseflag as a 2hufag no one will believe you.

>> No.31360464

>>31318292
The best thing about crossposters is that they have no clue how obvious they are; they think everyone on the site types like that.

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>>31359533
So much for a website that was "/founded/" on discussing Japanese culture.

Otaku topics are low priority on this futaba clone, which was made by people from an IRC group named Raspberry Heaven for the purpose of discussing otaku topics.

>> No.31360665

>Where can I unsubscribe from your blog?
Dude you are such an old fag wow, let me suck your cock dude what a clever comeback post.

>> No.31360714

>>31347113
why not

>> No.31360899

What even happened to meido
Everything was going so well

>> No.31360933

>>31360032
Wow, anon wasn't kidding. Y'all really are hypnotized.

>> No.31360997

>>31360933
Nothing wrong with correcting someone making shit up

>> No.31361026

>>31360933
>Y'all
ngl it lowkey do be like that

>> No.31361050

>>31360579
Speaking of futaba, it would be interesting to see this place run with their moderation system. Probably unfeasible, but user-driven moderation when it works is the best system in my eyes.

>> No.31361181

>>31361050
Isn't reddit like that to some extent with their shitty voting system?

>> No.31361531

>>31361181
No, reddit has a huge system of mods, some of which set up an automatic deletion system, but it's not actually driven by the users. Thread creators are allowed to delete replies in their threads on futaba, and if enough users click the delete button on a post or thread, it goes away. AFAIK, they have no moderators at all, and only an admin. This means the community is self-reinforcing, though it has its caveats. Nijiura has newfags come in from nanj a lot who aren't used to the culture and do things like look down on people they consider porn addicts, so this in a way makes things vulnerable to outside influence. Still, it's a good idea. We shouldn't forget that of the 3 major chans, 2/3 of them effectively moderate themselves.

>> No.31361707

>>31361050
The problem being Futaba is a japanese website for japanese speakers, aka pretty much only people in japan, and 4chan is an american website for english speakers, which means like a quarter of the fuckin' globe. We're innately orders of magnitudes bigger than they could ever be, which means moderation is much more needed as posts would just get deleted in seconds by anyone, or they'll never get deleted at all depending on what the count-needed is. The biggest problem though is that sometimes mods are in fact not gods and we get shit like this happening. It's a lose-lose no matter what.

>> No.31361740

>>31361707
are non japanese ips still banned there?

>> No.31361804

>>31360072
>I wonder how it feels coming to 4chan for people who never posted on forums.
zoomers do discord now, I assume it works the same way .

>> No.31361825

>>31361740
It comes and goes. Doesn't really matter though as you need to know Japanese to use the website, and if you're dedicated enough you can get past the block, whereas that's kind of impossible for an english speaking website.

>> No.31361919

>>31359937
I got to say I'm proud of the thread since it looks like no one who regularly goes there actually took the bait.

>> No.31361978 [DELETED] 

>>31361919
How do you know who goes there regularly if everyone is anonymous?

>> No.31362224

>>31360072
I've never used forums. I find it well enough to post on this site and no where else. I am not here to look for any kind of relationship but to talk about things with others that have similar interests as I do. I like how impersonal and fleeting it is and I can just talk to who ever whenever I want and don't have to worry about unnecessary things like the kind of history or reputation you have or what special perks you got. Just the subject at hand.

>> No.31362252

>>31361978
well obviously I'm not picking out individuals, but as a whole the people who are only there as provocateurs stick out like a sore thumb.

>> No.31362277

>>31361707
I think the exact number of del requests needed is unknown and based on an algorithm related to board speed, like how thread pruning is done. I bet we could work out a decent formula this way to cull the shitty threads while others are left untouched. The real hangup here is preventing one user from spamming requests. Japan has mostly static IPs which means they can't do it even if they want to, while most people on 4chan have dynamic IPs and can switch IPs easily. The obvious solution is to accept one del request per IP region/network and ignore subsequent ones, cutting out the vast majority of spam. But only testing this out could let you know if it works or not. Futaba's not perfect, but the system works.

Anyway, I don't hold a grudge against the mods, things could be way worse than they are. But they should be more open. Their rules have a huge effect on the site, simply staying quiet and not talking with users isn't going to change this.

>> No.31362301

>>31361978
Unironically lurk more. You come to recognize posting styles of some people and just the way the type and talk. It's why it is so easy to see who is obviously an outsider or not.

>> No.31362327

>>31361978
>>31360464

>> No.31362354

>>31361740
Yes. I managed to view https://jun.2chan.net/formail.php with a Japanese VPN though, you might be able to post with one as well. 5ch though is mostly open to foreign IPs I think, BBSPink is locked to domestic ones though.

>> No.31362580

>>31362301
somewhat related, but it's really shocking, observing the difference of posting style between old /jp/ to the rest of the board, and possibly the entire site. it's like we're on completely different websites

>> No.31362596

>>31362354
>5ch though is mostly open to foreign IPs I think
It's not if you're from EU (because of the RGPD, I think). I always get a blank page when I go there.

>> No.31362689

>>31362596
Euro IPs are blocked from even looking at futaba too, right?
Still, if you want to post on 5ch at least it's very easy to get around.

>> No.31362720 [DELETED] 

>>31362596
Yeah we're banned but you can easily bypass it with a vpn. I admit im a tech illiterate so i cant explain but if i could do it, everyone can

>> No.31362776

>>31362580
I'd probably take a guess that it's because for the most part, old /jp/ filled a relatively niche role that not many people would fall under, as opposed to other boards which would continuously attract new people and along with it, new posting styles.

>> No.31362839 [DELETED] 

>>31362689
>>31362596
>>31362776
Why does japan hate eu so much

>> No.31363034

>>31362839
He already told you man. They don't even mind Western posters (mostly because they don't exist). If they see shitty Japanese they just assume you're Korean or Chinese.

>> No.31363062

>>31362689
We can still go to most of the boards on futaba aside the Japanese IP exclusive one.
>>31362720
There's also the archive for lurking. It's good enough for me.

>> No.31363123 [DELETED] 

>>31363034
But only EU is explicitly banned from even looking at 5ch

>> No.31363236

>>31363123
I was talking about futaba. Americans were banned from viewing 5ch until recently anyway.

>> No.31363595 [DELETED] 

>>31363236
I still feel discriminated, fuck nips

>> No.31366802

>>31310683
As intolerable as the vtuber thread was at the start of this graph, there was still only one of them and /jp/ was still collectively losing its shit about it. Hololive had to be split to have a tolerable level of discussion about anything and then I guess having a dedicated thread brought in people from off-site and other boards. Then the fucking stickies for the EN debuts and resulting global threads just ruined everything. The graph makes it blatantly obvious. If nothing else, I hope everyone complaining about the main thread up until like summer 2019 or so feels really dumb looking back.

Aside from the current state of those threads, I'm getting really pissed off that other /jp/ threads and discussion topics I've followed for years are struggling to survive right now. It's easy enough to just keep cycling through threads but the speed they're dying off at is really bad. It sucks a lot that bumping is becoming necessary to talk about anything now or else your thread dies within a day.

>> No.31367417

>>31358744
>Post/min: 144.38
>Threads/hour: 1
How the fuck even?

>> No.31367440

>>31366802
Who would have thought permanently doubling a boards post count overnight by making hordes of crossboarders and people that don't even post on 4chan welcome would shit things up? Think half of what made the threads so popular here is that nowhere else with a population that is active allows anywhere near the same level of shitposting, rumour mongering, "doxxing" so all the fags from other sites hear that this is the place to do that and get the secret information.

>> No.31370274

>>31367440
Pretty much. The Hololive threads have, for several months now, been a magnet for shitposting tourists that don't even follow Hololive. At this point there are regular posters that don't even watch streams that often.
There were janitor applications available for some time, not many people applied or made it through. Occasionally a mod or janitor would "subtly" make themselves known, seeming as if that particular person does not usually moderate the thread. There were also instances where it was clear they don't usually moderate it, deleting posts that they mistook as trolling or against the rules. Whatever happened, all that could possibly be related.

>> No.31371331

>>31366802
>I hope everyone complaining about the main thread up until like summer 2019 or so feels really dumb looking back.
I remember poking fun at anons saying "wow, every summer fucking sucks", the joke being kids were on school break and shitposting fucking spiked during those times. Now? Now I want to go back. Lord, do I want to go back.

>> No.31373595

>>31306392
>People making independent threads are called out for being retards in the megathreads, mostly.
The "megathreads" are just anti threads. They're mad about losing relevancy and a platform for their bullshit. Fuck them. I'm not going back.

>> No.31373908

>>31319503
>>31320297
If the generals were so great, why did all the good posters leave them the first chance they got?

>> No.31374244

>>31373595
>They're mad about losing relevancy and a platform for their bullshit
What do you mean?

>> No.31375016

>>31374244
It's no fun if it's just trolls trolling trolls. That's why they don't want people to leave.

Antis keep talking about "the consensus" or how "everyone agrees" that things were better before because they no one know would associate with them if they had a choice.

>> No.31375267

>>31375016
I like the meaningless use of the word "anti". It seems you're one of those people that were successfully kept away from the board by gatekeeping and are now allowed to make a thread about any retarded topic you want without necessarily having to deal with "antis".
Or just a shitposter, of course.

>> No.31375644

>>31375267
Sounds like you're one of those people being successfully kept away from the board now.
Or just a shitposter, of course.

>> No.31375661

>>31375644
So you're just a shitposter, then. Okay.

>> No.31375813

>>31375661
Not him, but the threads are much better, and more chill, being split up.

>> No.31376000

>>31375813
The Hololive threads are worse than usual, and they have the vast majority of vtuber posters.

>> No.31376705

>>31319817
Best analogy I've heard today.

>> No.31376912

>>31376000
Not anymore they don't. They're just going to get worse until they shrivel up and die.

>> No.31377083

>>31376912
IP counts and post speeds have not gone down.
See you when that doesn't happen.

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