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Kiara thread

>> No.32534390

Most hated but ironically the most idol like.

>> No.32534412

she had ame muted

>> No.32534533
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exploded chicken

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So is the concept of half the characters being carpet-munchers something thought of by the VAs to act as bantz, by executives to spawn loads of R34 to act as free marketing, or to avoid Twitter cancellation? Not that it’s a problem, though.

>> No.32534854

>>32534412
Ame was muted on her own stream, so...doubt.

>> No.32535014

WHAT IS KIARA TRYING TO DO? IS SHE TRYING TO START A SHITSTORM OR WHAT?

>> No.32535170

>>32535014
Yes, because it's funny

>> No.32536632 [DELETED] 

i love my retarded tenchou!

>> No.32536768

People that hate her are faggots who can't separate the art from the artist.

If you knew all about the roommates you'd be able to find something to hate each and every one of them

>> No.32536930

>>32536768
I don't hate her, though I do pity her.
However I dislike her work as Kiara for what she does as the character. It is annoying, lazy and unstable, although she paradoxically tries hard at it at the same time.

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32536994

Me gusta la gallina, ¿puedo postear gallina aquí?

>> No.32537849

>>32534137
Kiara is a culture-less philistine. She laughed at Nene because Nene has a developed taste in international media and foreign films.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBj8YzOJY8

>> No.32540299

>>32536930
This.
Her singing is not the best. Her art is not the best. Her gaming is not the best. Her chat interaction is not the best. Her roommate is not the best. But all this would be fine, if she would not be such an obnoxious attention whore.
She should shine by interacting with the JP holos but she is really bad at it. Probably because she is so self-centered she does not really care about them. And also she can't really read the atmosphere.
I wish I could ignore her more if she would just stop her interactions with Holo JP.

>> No.32540875

>>32540299
shes based fuck you

>> No.32540999

>>32540299
I think she's on the path to self improvement. The stream with Ame was nice. I think that time in Australia and away from the nips will do good for her mental.

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>>32534137
Lewd chikin

>> No.32543333

>>32536930
Nah, she is fine. It is quite the contrary, she puts too much effort some times, she need to stress out less and enjoy things more.
>>32540299
You're just delusional because you have a hateboner for her. It really doesn't matter if she is the best at "anything". At the end of the day your enjoyment is more subjective than anything. For instance, for most KFPs her chat interaction is the best and her interactions with her peers are not only good, but we find her considerate as well. Maybe we could get to a more object evaluation of her qualities based on your criticism if you didn't act like a fucking schizo, but the point will remain that qualities that are not for you are for someone else.

>> No.32543544

ORANGE WOMAN BAD

>> No.32543571

>>32543333
>her interactions with her peers are not only good, but we find her considerate as well.
So great and considerate she managed to kill her own talk show in three episodes by yabbing Shion off the face of the Earth?

>> No.32543735

>>32534390
>Failed idol
She can never be an idol with a basic bitch personality, it just doesn't work.

>> No.32543807

>>32534137
Is she really the most hated out of all hololive members

>> No.32543876

>>32536768
notice how literally everyone who bashes on her never really mentions anything about her inside person?
her personality as kiara is just shit and it just makes senses if people hates it

>> No.32543900

>>32543333
>It really doesn't matter if she is the best at "anything".
Literally what I said. It is her personality that kills it for me and there is no other redeeming factor for her. And I hate her so much because I really tried to like her. There is a reason I have watched her so much.

>>32543571
To be fair Holotalk did continue with Subaru. And the next seems to already planned.

>> No.32544029

>>32543571
Wasn't there some kind of big event right around that time that basically filled all the JPs schedule...

>> No.32544146

>>32536768
The hate has nothing to do with roommates, retard. It's because she has no self-awareness or tact, as shown with moments like this
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1330817353911713792

>> No.32544339

>>32544146
How dare she tell shion they reached the goal at the same time, i don't even like Kiara but this is just retarded

>> No.32544474

>>32544339
>"Hey senpai, I pulled off what you did in two months, that you worked over two years for! Congratulations btw!"
You're the retard here if you think that was an appropriate tweet.

>> No.32544583

>>32544339
Birdbrain: Hey Shion-senpaaai! You know the goal you worked 2 years for? Yeah, well I did it in few months. Congratulations!! I am so happy for the two of us.

>> No.32544621

>>32544474
>>32544583
That's just your own insecurities
If Shion took it that way she wouldn't agree to be in the talk show
Maybe try not taking everything so negatively next time.

>> No.32544747

>>32544621
>Gura: doesn't do anything for first 1 mil in Hololive because either she can read the room or was advised to hold off by her manager
>Chicken: Full retard over the bronze medal.

>If Shion took it that way she wouldn't agree to be in the talk show
Judging by how her time there went, she probably wishes she hadn't agreed. And given the radio silence on continuing it that's apparently a pretty popular take from the JPs.

>> No.32548170

>>32544747
>given the radio silence on continuing it
In Holotalk her guests are different every time but I wonder if she has made any friends in JP. Usually you would expect her to develope some friendships over time given she lives in Japan and speaks Japanese fluently. But even Subaru prefers Calli over Kiara.

>> No.32549477

>>32548170
The entire Subaru loves Calli was just setup for holotalk. Just think about it. Subaru says in a secretive way "dont tell kiara, but i love Calli" (paraphrased) in a stream shortly before holotalk. Oh what a surprise. Kiara was actually in chat an witnessed it. Come on... these are just stunts to make people look forward to the next holotalk episode and engage in Twitter/Reddit discussions about what will happen when they meet.

>> No.32549548

>>32549477
rrat

>> No.32551588

>>32543807
If you count chinks as people (I don't) , then Coco would be the most hated. But Kiara can annoy people in 3 different languages and I can see why people wouldn't like her. Maybe I would find some of the JP members annoying if I could understand them. But it's also in vogue to not like Kiara, so who knows how much hate is genuine VS bandwagon...

>> No.32551653
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People who hate her obviously don't watch her. Which is understandable I guess, but I wish they'd stop pretending to have an opinion about her.

I love her. She's hilarious and chaotic and has a great comedy IQ. She's not doing the "virtual girlfriend" thing that some other Holos are doing and I think that makes her less appealing to some. Kiara's just trying to put on a show and be entertaining.

>> No.32551695

>>32551653
If I hate her then why would I watch her?

>> No.32551901

Also it's funny how all the bad nasty things people claim Kiara did are totally ordinary things that they are just taking out of context and trying to turn into a slight against her. You people are like a bunch of gossiping women.

>> No.32552122

>>32551901
She has shown a pattern of behavior at this point.

>> No.32552145

>>32552122
That's because you are a schizo

>> No.32552253

>>32552145
Insults don’t lend support your views.

>> No.32552453

Why would she disable comments on her cosplay channel?

>> No.32552543

>>32552453
Some of her tard fans kept referring to kiara on it. I don’t like kiara but I know better than to do that.

>> No.32552678

>>32552543
To be honest every holo who still does other stuff on the side gets those kind of comments in their alt channel but they still don't disable it. She's just overreacting.

>> No.32552774

>>32543807
Most people don't care about her (or any of the ENs or IDs) but she doesn't have a rabid normalfag fanbase like the other ENs to bat for her nor is she indonesian who pretends the IDs are all great which also means a couple of psychotic antis from endchan to boot.

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>>32544747
Saying that Gura didn't do anything for 1 mil because she was reading the room is a misread. Gura doesn't feel like she's earned any of the success that she's gotten on a personal level, it's an empty goal for her. It hasn't even gotten to the "considering other people's feelings" stage for her, she just doesn't feel good about it herself because she doesn't...feel much about it at all.

>> No.32552851

>>32551695
A fair point, so long as you acknowledge that you're hating the surface level and not the core of who she is or what she does.

>> No.32552900

>>32552253
I believe he was trying to diagnose you, friend.

>> No.32553079

>>32544747
This isn't Gura's first channel to hit 1M. Understandable to be less excited.

Although I'm sure the imposter syndrome must be pretty heavy for her. Beating out girls who grinded for years with only a month of streaming is probably something that feels bittersweet. I'd liken it to winning the lotto, or being a diversity hire.

>> No.32553242

>>32552900
Schizo is one of the latest meme insults like cuck, fag, autist before it. As insults become more engrained they lose potency and a new one proliferates.
Actual schizophrenics are pitifully and horrifically insane in a way that is unmistakeable. It is rather sad to think about how messed up they are.

>> No.32553316

>>32534725
This is my theory. Characters that have intimate relationships with each other increase the popularity of both parties. This doesn't even have to be romantic. (for example, Miko and Pekora).

But even with Miko and Pekora people will ship a relationship because they are thirsty for it. In a lot of fan culture intimacy between characters creates fanships.

So I think the idea is that the characters feed into this mentally so much that a lot of them come off as/are canon romantic relationships.

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>>32551901
the 500k subs tweet is a bit awkward, so are some other things
the problem is people blow it out of proportion
>>32552678
there was really a lot of those, sadly some videos had more "haha kfp hololive secret club" comments than actual relevant comments
so i don't think she was wrong on this

>> No.32553418

>>32552807
The thing about that is kiaras success isn’t very earned either but she focuses on numbers all the time as though it was. If she had been holojp gen5 rather than holoen Gen1 I don’t think she would have seen near the success she does now.
That is just my rrat on it though.

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32553543

Are you subbed to your oshi's oshi?

>> No.32553637

>>32552678
>>32553393
I don’t begrudge her disabling comments, if your fan base can’t behave and respect the separation then you gotta do what you gotta do. A bit rude how it was announced but in that situation I can understand being annoyed and having that leak through.

>> No.32553696

>>32553543
Kek. This honestly explains a lot.

>> No.32553792

>>32553543
At least her pekora obsession is real although it would be nice if she was less retarded about it. It also seems impolite to copy pekora’s fake laughing style.

>> No.32553920

>>32553079
If it was me I'd probably try to get people to try looking at the other holos, but then again I'd hate for that to be taken as taking pity on JP or whatever

>> No.32554210

>>32534725
If you have only females in specific group any romantic interaction will have to be homosex. If there was more interactions with -stars there would be more straight shipping.

>> No.32554229

>>32553543
>U better go watch Pekora
Is that a threat?

>> No.32554308

>>32536768
She did nothing wrong.

>>32553792
yeah, she copied it even before knowing hololive,
what a bitch

>> No.32554364

>>32553920
Yeah, especially when she speaks so little Japanese so you know her endorsement is either hollow pity or just a shallow first impression. Sucks that the most popular hololive girl has the least collab potential

>> No.32554959

>>32554308
Wow really? Got any old videos of her old idol days where she was doing it? I generally avoid them since they are normally irrelevant. That really would be a remarkable coincidence.

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>>32554229

>> No.32555230

>>32554959
lurk more

>> No.32555348

>>32555230
Everything has always pointed to the laugh being fake and copied from pekoras fake laugh just as it obviously appears. If you have anything that shows otherwise I’d like to hear it so I could correct others but at this point your claim appears to be a hollow rrat with no support as an attempt to divert legitimate complaint.

>> No.32555953

>>32555348
>>32555579
gg outing yourself as an anti you stupid bitch ass nigga

>> No.32556140

>>32552851
If I hate the surface level, I'm probably not going to like the core either. Hate is all-encompassing.

>> No.32556176

>>32534137
unironically worst girl

>> No.32556509

I watched her old video her laugh is obviously copied from pekora

>> No.32556870

>>32555953
I’m not an anti. I dislike her work but I wouldn’t want to bother the performer nor do I hate her personally. I hope she improves but I don’t think she will at this point.
Please remember that ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>> No.32557016

her laugh reminds me more of choco or aqua at times. whatever, she isn't the only one doing a signature laugh for branding reasons.
https://files.catbox.moe/6apxcx.mp4

>> No.32557204

>>32557016
Oh yeah, lots have signature laughs or features for their character, it is part of the identity. But seriously copying someone else is bad, especially in the same company.
If it is natural then it is understandable like that drama with those two vtubers where one had a particular speaking style for their character and another had that as their native dialect that would sometimes slip through. But that doesn’t seem to be the case here.

>> No.32557524

>>32557016
>>32557204
I think her extreme love of pekora makes the link there more obvious but I will listen more closely to compare.

>> No.32558809

post her gravure sets

>> No.32559405

>>32553393
>the 500k subs tweet is a bit awkward, so are some other things
>the problem is people blow it out of proportion
It's because there are "other things" that Kiara has the reputation. If it was just the Shion thing, sure, that alone would be able to be swept under the rug as a moment of poor taste, and no one would make judgment on Kiara's character just for that. However, since there ARE other similar moments where she makes the same bad impression, like a seemingly passive-aggressive criticism about Amelia and superchats, or saying that she would never make a mistake like Coco's, people have a pattern to point to, regardless of it being intentional on Kiara's part or not. People are fans of the other members too, so don't get surprised if that draws the wrong kind of attention if she makes criticism or potentially offensive remarks about the others (again, regardless of how someone like Shion publically responds to it).
For me, the Shion thing is already too insensitive for me to ignore, and then there's how she got all salty about people including Moona in fanart with her and Pekora. Those alone make her seem self-centred enough for me to not really wanna follow her.
tl;dr, if you like her for treating her fans well by reading out every superchat, or you admire her multi-lingual talents, good for you, but don't go acting like the disdain for her is baseless

>> No.32559549

>>32554210
Foxdemon--and to a lesser extent, Matsurikka--confirms.

>> No.32560514

>>32551901
>a bunch of gossiping women
Congratulations, you've reached the truth.

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>>32559405
>or saying that she would never make a mistake like Coco's

And this is how you know you're some schizo poster with an imaginary axe to grind. The literal last thing she tweeted before that "at least I can wake up on time" tweet was about how shitty her sleeping habits are. She talks about it constantly. And she's been talking a bunch the last few weeks about attempting to reset her terrible sleep schedule to something more normal.

But no, that's fine. Let's take the least charitable interpretation, that she was publicly calling out Coco, who wasn't named, and she herself later said she wasn't talking about Coco. Can't spin a narrative without assuming the worst outcome of everything you see. Goddamn seaguls.

>> No.32560661

>>32559405
>You have to check on every Holo before tweeting
>Twitter is like walking on a minefield
Imagine being this retarded.

>> No.32560721

>>32559405
You will never be a woman

>> No.32561017

>>32560574
>people have a pattern to point to, regardless of it being intentional on Kiara's part or not.
>>32560661
>Twitter is like walking on a minefield
Um, yes? Do you not know what Twitter is? People have had their entire careers at risk or straight up lost jobs and reputation over single tweets.

>> No.32561130

>>32560574
>Let's take the least charitable interpretation, that she was publicly calling out Coco
The timing could not have been worse, since it overlapped directly with when Coco overslept, while the previous tweets were from hours before. If it is a coincidence, then sucks to be Kiara, since even Coco noticed it. And again, with the whole Amelia thing about superchats, people have a reason to think that it's not just a complete coincidence.

>> No.32561364

>>32560574
>and she herself later said she wasn't talking about Coco
Source?
Even if the tweet had nothing to do with Coco--which is just your own interpretation, just like the haters have their perspective--the tweet's just her patting her own back. Even in the best possible light it only reinforces the haters' view of her being vain and self centered

>> No.32561477

>>32558809
Why would you want those?

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>>32561364
See screen, was the pin in the prechat for Holotalk later that night.

>>32561130
Oh I agree, was probably bad timing. But what Amelia superchat thing are you referring to? I'm not aware exactly what you're talking about?

>> No.32561780

>>32551653
>Which is understandable I guess, but I wish they'd stop pretending to have an opinion about her.
And I wish that fans would stop pretending that people who have a grudge against her never gave her a chance. People can only make arguments against her because they have examples to reference, whether it's from awkward collab moments, over the top ship-baiting with Calli, or just her personal insecurities. At the end of the day, people get judged more heavily based on their moments, not their best, and too many bad moments marred her reputation. No one's gonna care if you helped an old lady cross the street if you pushed two more grannies down the stairs.

>> No.32562094

We are observing this thread.

>> No.32562123

>>32561511
Not him, but for the Super Chat thing, iirc it was a very similar situation as the Coco thing where Kiara mentioned reading each SC, so the hololive JP thread took that as a veiled jab at girls like Ina who don't care about SCs

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>>32551901

>> No.32562244

>>32561780
Kinda this. I think the hate's over the top, but I don't disagree with everything people say, especially when it comes to her cancerous relationship with her chat. Like, if people never watched her, they wouldn't have anything to say, like with Mel or Roboco

>> No.32562287

>>32561511
>pic
Oh god what a dumb fucking bitch.

>> No.32562307

>>32561511
>can you guys please stop calling me out on my shit??????

>> No.32562347

>>32562123
Ah yes, Kiara the bird brained motormouth with no filter who is also the master of veiled jabs and backhanded complements. Gotta love when narratives require complete opposite realities to be true in order for their schizo head cannon to work.

>> No.32562555

>>32562347
>Kiara the bird brained motormouth with no filter
I mean, that is the complaint, isn't it? People just wish that she would take a minute to stop herself from saying something that makes her look bad. If she just left the congratulatory tweet to Shion as just "congratulations!" and not mention herself, no one would've batted an eye. If she didn't complain about how Moona upstaged her in the Pekora collab, people wouldn't dunk on her all the time for being a fangirl who got cucked in her dream collab.

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>>32551653
I watched Kiara twice. Once on her debut when I decided she wasn't my type of entertainer, and never tuned in to her stuff again (plus the gentle unsuscribe)
And the second time was when my oshi Friend went to holotalk.
In both instances her annoying voice, overly fake "energy" (shouting loud and talking fast don't make you funny or uplifting) made me regret tuning in; and in holotalk her total disregard for actually interacting in favour of turning every question into a "Let's talk about me then", definetely turned me off from her.

I don't hate Kiara, but I also don't have to like her or support her. If she diossappears from Hololive tomorrow, I wouldn't bat an eye

>inb4 "if you don't hate her why are you in this thread"
It's really funny and I enjoy the shithousery that happens in EN threads
>inb4 "Friend wouldn't be happy hearing you say that"
I am not Friend and I don't represent her. That's like saying Haatons should behave like Haachama

>> No.32563041

>>32534137
I love chicken, but that art makes her look retarded

>> No.32563058

>>32563041
Her design in general makes her look retarded.

>> No.32563093

>>32556870
If you dislike her work, that makes you an anti, since you are "anti" her.

>> No.32563111

>>32563041
>>32563058
>inb4 someone says that she makes herself look retarded

>> No.32563124

>>32563041
>two hats
She was doomed from the get-go
I still wonder if she's actually only supposed to wear one at a time, except no one told the modeler, or worse, that no one told Kiara she can selectively take one off

>> No.32563171

>>32562347
It seems like she trying to by snippy or Machiavellian but at the same time is retarded so it is obvious and backfires.
The chances she takes are calculated but man is she bad at math.
I don’t think she means to be rude though, I think she just is.

>> No.32563192

>>32563093
I’m not against her though and hope she gets better.

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32563271

she's not the smartest
she's not the funniest
she's not the mentally healthiest
but i want her to succeed and be happy bros...

>>32563025
i like her energy but i agree it's fake/forced at times
it feels like she's copying japanese idols a bit in this regard

>> No.32563336

>>32563025
>That's like saying Haatons should behave like Haachama

Are you telling me I didn't need to eat all those spiders?

>> No.32563337

>>32556140
If you're an idiot, sure.

>> No.32563579

>>32563336
It's fine if you are australian

>> No.32564148

>>32561477
For masturbation purposes mainly

>> No.32564808

Undoubtedly, the worst hololive member.

>> No.32564888

Undoubtedly, the best hololive member.

>> No.32565116

She is meh.

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>>32561477
I guess I'm just mildly curious.

>> No.32566189

>>32534725
Aren't there at least two canon homo couples in hololive? I'm pretty sure Coco's hololive house, is just an excuse, for why she lives together with her gf.

>> No.32566236

>>32534137
I can't stand her, she's so fucking obnoxious.

>> No.32566315

As a (relative) normie that knows nothing about HoloJP etc Kiara is my favorite. She interacts with chat and is goofy and fun to listen to. She had a bad debut sure but i still think she's underrated. 1mil soon.

>> No.32566502

>>32564148
There are better things to beat your dick to.

>> No.32566556

This bitch is crazy but I really like how she reinvests into her stream by commissioning musicians and artists for bgm, overlays, and the single. Her earnings are consistent and there will be meltdowns when she hits 1m. Orange woman good.

>> No.32566632

>>32566189
Most of it is forced as hell like Cali/Kiri and Okoro.
Some of it is for promotion between friends like Noel/Flare.
But I'm sure whoro-house has some dyking out when their bored or not drilled out by black dudes.

>> No.32566742

>>32566632
with calli/kiara, i felt cringe at the beginning but now i kinda like it

>> No.32566803

>>32566742
What if they finally fall for the memes, and actually get together? I mean, me and my best friend played that we are gay, to piss off our religious teacher, but then one day he kissed me, when the teacher wasn't around....

>> No.32566867

>>32566803
Dude that's hot.

>> No.32566922

>>32561017
>Um, yes?
Lold.

>> No.32566977

>>32563271
>she's not the funniest
Strongly disagree.

>> No.32567058

BOWSER GONNA IMPREGNATE PEACH TO FILL A WHOLE GALAXY

>> No.32567107

>>32557204
honestly that's one of the most retarded criticisms of her, her laugh sounds nothing like Pekora

>> No.32567166

why do antis keep making these threads for themselves? don't you have something better to do?

>> No.32567295

>>32566977
this

>> No.32567428

>>32567166
shut up, were bored, alright?

>> No.32567463

>>32567166
I don't think it was anon. I think it was a Kiara thread but more people have negative views of her than positive ones and so they get expressed and discussed.

>> No.32567611
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>>32567166
>Implying these threads are made by antis

>> No.32567742

I dont realy like her personality, but i cant deny that her channel have the highest production value and work put into, its very impressive how much she did and how long her streams are compared to her gen mates.

>> No.32567963

>>32565165
>>32561477
Help a brother out guys. My penis is demanding more.

>> No.32568067

>>32567742
I think she wants to succeed and is good at heart but she has some major personal issues that affect her performance.

>> No.32568299

>>32567463
>>32567611
These anti kiara threads been here for weeks. The OP is deliberatly made neutral to bait people in.

>> No.32568363

>>32537849
Nene thinks iCarly and hannah montana are shows adults watch. She's clearly really fucking stupid. I don't blame kiara for making fun of her

>> No.32569122

>>32555348
Just watch her roomate's channel mate.

>> No.32569150

She’s actually the best EN member. Super goofy and high energy. Far more entertaining than gura or ame.

>> No.32569510

>>32568363
Yes anon, that was the joke.

>> No.32569521

>>32569150
the best EN member is Ina

>> No.32569543

>>32569150
Ollie seems to be just a better Kiara though. Similar energy, emotion and possible annoyance while less broken.

>> No.32569614

>>32566632
Takamori is legitimately two close friends, though as far as I know Kiara is legitimately a switch-hitter and would probably date Calli unironically.

Okakoro, they're just really good long-time friends.

>> No.32569642

>>32566742
They've had more time to settle into it. Some of the best moments were in A Way Out.

>> No.32569763

>>32566632
>drilled out by black dudes
Uhhhh BASED?

>> No.32570211

>>32565165

Holy shit

I-It's not that I'm horny for let's be honest not the prettiest girl but you made me curious as fuck right now

I know that's she's been getting into Japan for at least 10 years and thus probably has tried numerous ways to earn money but this seemed at least desperate

Any sauce for the full session?

>> No.32570455

>>32569614
Okakoro being long time friends seems odd because korone is over a decade older than her.

>> No.32570625

>>32570455

Why is that? Their families know each other very well and they treat themselves like sisters. This truly is a friendship goal.

>> No.32570735

>>32570211
She does look very much like an above averge Austrian girl, it's very odd seeing someone looking so familiar in such a style. That's the main reason I wanted to see more of her.

>> No.32570878

>>32570211
Full session? Her Etsy had like a dozen packs before she closed it down. She was trying to earn some money so that she could pay the bills and without conventions and fan events in need of promotion she turned to doing something that would cover her expenses even if it meant uncovering herself. And she's talked about it before on Twitter, she was comfortable with it and fine with the shoots. Probably for the same reason she got into cosplay and likes her persona so much. She gets to pretend to be the sexy, confident, desirable girl that deep down she doesn't feel like she is at all. When people buy those pictures there's this division in her head between herself and the object being purchased, because if it were really her then she'd feel...pretty, or wanted, instead of being so down on herself and caking on makeup to mask every little imperfection.

>> No.32570916

>>32570455
I don't get why people are adding maliciousness to their friendship because of their age gap. I don't see people slandering pewdiepie because he made friends with James Charles and they also have a huge age gap

>> No.32571029

>>32570455
>O LAWD I'M GROOMIN
-Korone, probably

>> No.32571472

>>32570735
I don't think there is any fair reason to call somebody "an average Austrian", but her case is somewhat special, as the moment I saw her I really thought "she might be germanic". Actually it turned out that i've been subbing her main channel since 2012 and boy did that hit me after her hololive debut

>> No.32571789

>>32569543
They're really not that similar. Ollie is a teenager who won't shut up, and she has nothing to talk about except shit-tier memes. Kiara actually has a lot of interesting stories because of her experiences as a long time streamer, idol, and living in Japan.
Also German >>>>>> Indonesian

>> No.32571930

>>32571789
Ollie seems like a genuinely nice person while Kiara's basic backstabbing, crab in a bucket Karen mentality basically seeps through in everything she does

>> No.32572002

>>32570878

The make-up thing might be just her weebiness or a way to fit into Japs more

Can't recall any tweets because I'm not really a Twitter user + progressing memory problems, I got into it pretty much just for anime industry news + my japanese is just slightly above the most basic shit, still gotta read kanas with help

I'd be very grateful if you helped me, bud

>> No.32572092

>>32571472
>I don't think there is any fair reason to call somebody "an average Austrian"
She looks very similar to the prettier girls at my university. Austrian girls just tend to look like that.

>> No.32572187

>>32571789

Ollie's the thing we need, actually; Energetic, cheerful, some actual popculture/meme knowledge and most importantly high collab potentnial

Far different from Kiara

>> No.32572521

>>32572187
Ollie has been extremely respectful in all of her collabs with her senpais so far while Kiara has spilled her spaghetti and come across as very rude and insensitive in all of hers. The difference is night and day.

>> No.32572560

>>32572092

Huh. Maybe. Idk I've only been to Vienna and Landeck twice in my entire life. Never for the girls. And these cities aren't the most austrian ones when it comes to population afaik

>> No.32572623

>>32572187
Here's an assignment for you, anon. Go to a local mall, coffee shop, park, whatever, and find a high school girl. Tell her you think she's super pretty and smart, and that you really want to hear her thoughts on everything. Now sit next to her and listen to her talk nonstop for the next 5 hours. That's pretty much what listening to Ollie is like.

>> No.32572688

would u fug the chicken?

>> No.32572823

>>32572521

And that's also true. As I said - high collab potential

Languages are not the only things you should know, there's also manners

>> No.32572929

>>32572623
Here's an assignment for you anon, go get a job in retail then wait for a soccer mom to come in and start bitching to you about the prices and that she wants to talk to your manager. That's what listening to Kiara is like.

>> No.32572977

>>32569543
Ollie is fucking unbearable. I tried watching some of her streams but constant fucking yelling makes me turn them off after 15 minutes.

>> No.32573090

>>32572623

Maybe. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's got its niche and I understand people who enjoy her streams. In fact so do I. Maybe it's because I don't treat vtubers as everyday activities like watching every single stream either live or archived, but IMO it's good to see her from time to time.

>> No.32573505

>>32572823
I think Kiara knows that too because she's been curt towards Ollie every time she's showed up. Also the fact she's the only EN who didn't actually respond when Ollie sent them all messages. Chicken is likely seething over the fact Ollie has a very similar character but is knocking it out of the park.

>> No.32573800

>>32572002
I tried posting a twitter link and my post evaporated before my eyes. The one I wanted to send was about people sending her stuff about girls showing off their underwear being slutty, and her countering by saying that there are fashion reveal videos and such, and that she doesn't care what other people think about it.

>> No.32573857

>>32569150
I enjoy that energy.
Most of my friends are into Calli and it's just.... whatever

>> No.32573916

>>32572688
I mean, obviously. Have you seen that butt?

>> No.32574180

>>32573090
Sure, that's fine if you like a different character. But it's retarded to say that Ollie and Kiara are the same. They have different content, different personalities, different ages, and they live in different countries. The only thing they have in common is they both speak Japanese and English, which all the Indo girls do to some extent, and Ollie doesn't even speak Japanese that well.

>> No.32574624

>>32573857

Calli's problem is that you can really clearly see that she wants to do more but she's restricted by Hololive's code. This is exactly what makes her seem boring and I honestly feel the same. If I weren't poor I'd sub her just for her sub-only streams, but that just isn't worth it. You don't pay for 30 days of features to actually use one. Once.

>> No.32574766

>>32574180

Well... I never said they're the same.

>> No.32574922

>>32574624
>Calli's problem is that you can really clearly see that she wants to do more but she's restricted by Hololive's code
That's kind of her fault as well though. She's trying to do something that isn't really Hololive, in that sense she might feel restricted but she wouldn't if she actually tried to acclimate to Hololive and do more collabs with the JPs to understand it a bit better. Mori just wants Hololive to be something it can't be so she should focus on fitting in to what it actually is.

>> No.32574954

>>32574766
Yeah you seem reasonable. Other people say they're the same though, and those other people are retarded. Maybe they're all 17 year old Indo teenager girls I dunno.

>> No.32576102

Ollie is good and all but her zoomer meme-y ass personality is completely different from kiara.

People who complain about kiara’s personality are reading far too deep into stupid shit nobody cares about. I.e. they need meds.

>> No.32576383

A better version of Kiara is Ollie, she is loud and energetic for only a small amount of time. Ollie doesn't laugh like a retard for every 20 seconds. She is not a numberfag and is very humble about her increasing fame. She always involve others when it comes to collabs and her japanese sounds more formal

Ollie > Kiara

Then when gen 2 holo en comes, i'm sure Kiara will get more irrelevant

>> No.32576750

>>32569150
I agree. I like Gura too, but Gura and Kiara are the only ENs that don't feel like listening to a shitty English anime dub, probably because they are the only two who do a kind of "cartoon voice"

>> No.32577031

>>32569543
I have nothing against Ollie (I like her too) but the comparison to Kiara is really superficial, none of the things I particularly like about Kiara are true of Ollie. Ollie is more similar to Gura but with more of a genki flavour.

>> No.32577212

>>32576750

I thought that's exactly why Gura and Kiara sound like shitty english anime dub

That's actually one of many reasons why I don't watch Gura

>> No.32577329

>>32577031
>none of the things I particularly like about Kiara are true of Ollie
The only unique things about Kiara are the bad things though. The numberfagging, the huge ego, the constant jokes at the expense of her viewers, holier than thou attitude and entitlement complex. If Kiara acted like a decent person she'd just be Ollie

>> No.32577338

>>32577212
I dunno but most English dubs are just the actors talking in their normal voices which is what makes them so bad, they don't "perform" or speak in an affected way like Japanese voice actors. it's why for instance every loli in a dub just sounds like a valley girl teenager

>> No.32577408

>>32577329
>e huge ego, the constant jokes at the expense of her viewers, holier than thou attitude
do you at least recognize that this has niche appeal? her fans don't consider this a downside, in fact it's part of what they like about her, it's why they call her "Tenchou" and joke around about being employees in bad working conditions. so yeah, these things aren't true of Ollie, which is why she just seems like a generic genki girl.

>> No.32577596

>>32577338
>most English dubs are just the actors talking in their normal voices
No, it's not. If it was, it would be tolerable.

>> No.32577840

>>32577338
What anime are you watching that does this? Literally the cucks at funimation have a monopoly on dubbing.

>> No.32578250

>>32572521
>Kiara has spilled her spaghetti and come across as very rude and insensitive in all of hers.
Is that why all the JP's that have interacted with her have nothing but nice things to say about her, and why they are lining up to collab with her?

>> No.32578535

>>32578250

it's business, bro. It would be at least problematic if co-members insulted each other

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>>32576383
You indogs are still pushing this?
Wasn't ID2 supposed to grow faster than EN? Wasn't Ollie supposed to have more subs than Gura by now? What happened?

I can't think of any place in the world more irrelevant than Indonesia.

>> No.32578835

>>32578535
They don't have to insult her. They just don't have to go out of their way to talk about how great she is, which is what they all do. Subaru especially seems to really get along with her.

>> No.32578901

>>32578250
That's business for you. You don't drag your co-workers publicly. Stay positive and always say that X is the "nicest person". Sucks but that's how life is. Gotta keep up appearances, especially in show business. Mind you Birdbrain even stretches that because she's the only one in Hololive who has walked the edge of badmouthing other members publicly which tells you something.

>> No.32578976

>>32578835

I watched the Subaru episode of HoloTalk and it seems like that was the only one in which she didn't act questionably

>> No.32579013

>>32578535
It's not problematic at all to do playful bantz with your co-workers, especially for entertainers. But I guess retards, teenagers, and SEAniggers can't understand that.

>> No.32579083

>>32578976
Subaru accepted Kiaras request for an offline collab (Pekora and Polka told her to fuck off). She's probably the most amicable person toward Kiara in Hololive.

>> No.32579198

>>32579013
If you try to bant with SEAniggers, they go apeshit and try to kill you.
or if it's online, they try to dox you. They're all fucking schizos. No wonder they take playful ribbing like it's personal attacks.

>> No.32579249

>>32579013
Nobodys talking about "playful bants". That guy was arguing that because none of the Holos have engaged in open criticism of Kiara and stay positive about her they must like her personally which is naive.

>> No.32579315

>>32579083
new to Hololive? some Holos do off-collabs (Matsuri and Subaru for instance), some just plain don't (Polka and Pekora).

>> No.32579353

>>32579083
really? Holy shit. She really got cucked by her idol?
Ngl I wanna see that
Where's the sauce bro

>> No.32579364

>>32579083
>Request
Mhm...

>> No.32579405

>>32578250
>actually thinking Japanese people saying "nice things" indicates they like you
>implying it's not JP accepting the offer to present a united company image while using the opportunity to boost international viewers
Sweet sweet naivety.

>> No.32579469

>>32579353
In her collab with Pekora she asked Peko for an offline next time and Pekora said no

>> No.32579528

no fun allowed lmao

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>>32578901
>ugh it sure sucks that I HAVE TO talk about how I am jealous of Pekora for being Kiara's favourite because I wanted to be her bird-senpai
>ughhhh now she saw me saying """"nice"""" things about her and she's trying to collab with me, that bitch! fine I guess I have no choice
>I hate how I now have to say a bunch of things about how nice she was and how much fun I had even though I was totally faking my enthusiasm the entire time
>it totally sucks that I have no choice but to also do an appearance on her talk show just to keep up appearances, because I actually secretly hate her so much!

>> No.32579631

>>32579405
I'm imagining this dude visiting Japan and thinking he's the most well liked person every because no-one will ever be anything other than unfailing polite to his face. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

>> No.32579685

>>32579469
>In her collab with Pekora she asked Peko for an offline next time and Pekora said no

This doesn't sound like "fuck off" to me

>> No.32579750

>>32579575
Welcome to business my man. You often have to work with people you don't like and do things you don't want to do!

>> No.32579826

>>32579469
Based rabbit.

>> No.32579866

>>32579469
receipts please

>> No.32579895

>>32579469
She's said no multiple times and I can't blame her, Kiara comes off as frighteningly obsessed.

>> No.32580119

>>32579895
Kiara crying and sperging in their very first collab didn't really help her case. Pekora almost broke character and clearly wanted to hit the eject button at that point.

>> No.32580193

>>32580119
And yet after the fact Pekora was talking about "it's rare someone loves me so much, it makes me happy". Are you positive you're up to date on all of this?

>> No.32580292

>>32579575
bro this really is naive

It could've started nicely from Pekora's side and then score a downfall

They can't just say they dislike her or the entire company would be in trouble

That's how Uto's previous character's problems started[/s]

>> No.32580339 [DELETED] 

>>32580193
don't bother, SEAnigger claims are not falsifiable. literally anything that disproves their theory that everyone hates Kiara is just "Japanese politeness." No amount of evidence will convince them otherwise. It's a mixture of stupidity and confirmation bias.

>> No.32580393

>>32580193

>it's rare someone loves me so much
Doesn't it sound at least suspicious to you?

>> No.32580412

>>32580193
Pekora is a professional and she sticks to her character well. But actually meeting up with someone in real life for nonwork things is another matter entirely.

>> No.32580424

>>32580193
That's the socially appropriate thing to say and is in character. Pekora is an entertainer and knows how to deal with obsessive clingy weirdos. Remember that if she showed open disgust at Kiara she'd be doing the same to her fanbase by proxy.

>> No.32580507

Is this thread really full of people who think when Japanese idols say they dearly love their obsessive otaku fans they're being genuine? That's so weird.

>> No.32580574

>>32580339
I've stopped arguing with SEAnigs and instead I just post pictures of Indonesian rivers filled with garbage. That usually gets them to shut up.

>> No.32580578

>>32580507
apparently it's full of people who think everyone secretly hates everyone else and the only real genuine friendships are the ones that they personally consider plausible from their own point of view

>> No.32580652

>>32580339
It takes some practice to discern tatemae from honne. People who aren't that socially aware won't understand the difference.

>> No.32580707

>>32580652
lol I hope someday I'm as much of a social prodigy as you are then

>> No.32580761

>>32580707

this isn't that hard though, at least not in this case

>> No.32580845

>>32580652
Has Kiara streamed playing Reading Air? She seems like she needs to work on that facet more than anything.

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Hey guys what is your KFP employee job title!! :D

Mine is KFP Usual Room Guard :) !!

>> No.32580907

>>32580707
It just requires you to not be autistic.

>> No.32581032

>>32580854
>Bitch Not You Going Are Anywhere

>> No.32581048

>>32579405
Even if all the JP's secretly hate her. If they're all still willing to collab with her, which they are, then she still has high collab potential.

>> No.32581075

>>32580707
It's more that you're bad at it rather than anyone else being good.

>> No.32581131

>>32581048
They want the EN audience and Kiara has the best Japanese which makes her the best choice for many of them. She's in a fortunate position.

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>>32543807
I don't like her laugh. otherwise she is okay.

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>>32580854
>Not going anywhere bitch, you are

>> No.32581327

>>32581048
this may just mean that they're searching for somebody who actually understands them and can reply in a way they'll understand, just like >>32581131 said
Ina is also comfortable with her japanese but she's not the "translator girl" so less people would look up to such cross-section (is this a good word?) collab

>> No.32581387

>>32580854
>>32581032
>>32581267
Fuck, I forgot it's japanese so you read it backward.
>Not Bitch Going You Anywhere Are

>> No.32581424

>>32581327
samefagging here but I just wanna admit that Ina's collab with Polka and Nene was way more enjoyable than Kiara's with Pekora

>> No.32581495

>>32578901
Is that also why she went out to lunch with Marine, even though it wasn't for a collab or anything?

>> No.32581591

>>32581495
Lunch? What lunch?

>> No.32581644

>>32581424
That's definitely a rare opinion. Ina's collab was widely panned by both JOP's and EOP's.

>> No.32581654

>>32581495
nuh uh doesn't count

>> No.32581664

>>32581495
It was a sweets and cake buffet

>> No.32581742 [DELETED] 

Why are this broads etsy gravure shoots so elusive?

How much were the fuckers

>> No.32581776

>>32581654
Understandable

>> No.32581818

>>32581644
Huh, must've missed these threads
What were the most popular stated reasons? I might guess implied laziness of Ina and the incompatibilty of their personas

>> No.32582073

>>32581818
From what I remember reading, Ina's Japanese was pretty basic, plus she spoke exclusively in Japanese. It's been a while, but I think JP just don't like Polka because she's loud. I didn't actually watch the collab myself, since I don't watch Ina. I only watched the thread, so i can't really give any personal opinions on it.

>> No.32582125

>>32579083
Pekora or Polka not off collabing is nothing new. And the way you phrase it makes it seem as if she asked Polka or Pekora before asking Subaru, which is not true.

Go take your meds, along with all the doxxniggers in here. If you really want dox, do your own reps you fucking retards.

>> No.32582254

>>32582125
God damn its someone called your mother a bitch.

Calm down

>> No.32582286

>>32579083
Kiara broke subaru's trashcan and complained about her not having chairs. How she has lived in japan for 10 years and not realized something like this is astounding.

>> No.32582289

>>32581591
They went for a meal together to talk and hang out, and Marine spent the first five minutes talking about how red Kiara's hair was and playing with it

>> No.32582355

>>32581742
They weren't super expensive, but she was super niche for a while so her fanboys were the only ones buying and they tend to be tight-lipped.

>> No.32582373

>>32582254
ogey

>> No.32582427 [DELETED] 

>>32582254
fuck off seanigger, stay in your shitstain of a country and go eat a fucking treerat

>> No.32582435

>>32582125
>Pekora or Polka not off collabing is nothing new
Makes you wonder why Kiara would ask on stream then doesn't it

>> No.32582496

>>32582427
If you're going to spam "take meds" as a response to all criticism of your chicken you could at least put in the effort to look more mentally stable than them

>> No.32582558

>>32582435
Because she is obsessed with Pekora, she had a streak of off collabs at that point that she wanted to continue, and she's socially awkward even if also loud mouthed at the same time (charming combination btw)

>> No.32582582

>>32577338
>dubneighbor

>> No.32582611

>>32582496
You are responding to the wrong person, nigger.

>> No.32582614

>>32544474
You're actually autistic if you interpreted it this way. It was literally, "I'm happy we reached it together!" That's it.
This just looks like you're reaching for things to bitch about, and the fact that it still gets brought up is really embarrassing.

>> No.32582676

>>32582614
>This just looks like you're reaching for things to bitch about
ding ding ding

>> No.32582753

>>32582614
>It was literally, "I'm happy we reached it together!"
Yes "I'm happy we reached it together" when Kiara debuted over a year after Shion. The implication is obvious. It was unnecessary. A simple "Congratulations" would've sufficed without Kiara adding anything about herself but it seems like it's impossible for Kiara to ever respond to a topic without making it about herself.

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>>32582753
>The implication is obvious.

You are acting like a lolcow making up rrats on the fly. Go back to your shithole

>> No.32582870

>>32582833
If you don't like lolcow you belong on reddit, moralfag

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>>32582870
and there it is

>> No.32583097

>>32582833
Why am I obligated to never interpret Kiaras behavior in ways you don't like? If you're dedicated to being her internet defense force go for it but I'll just call 'em like I see 'em.

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>>32582870
All it takes is one casual mention and they can't help but act like schizos.

You will never be a woman.

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>>32582870
>Rent free

>> No.32583189

>>32583097
You are interpreting what other people do in the worst possible way. That's not a healthy way to live anon.

Seek help. I don't want you to suffer.

>> No.32583194

I'm starting to realize that the reason I don't like the other ENs as much as Kiara is that they are all so "safe" and inoffensive compared to her, and a lot of Hololive fans really do insist on their talents being as uncontroversial and unassuming and fawning as they possibly can because saying anything that can even remotely be considered rude of insensitive just sends them into a rage. It's so bizarre, Kiara is the only HoloEN who doesn't give me the feeling that I'm watching a Dora the Explorer or Blue's Clues with a doe-eyed TV host who is very sweetly talking down to me

>> No.32583214

>>32583122
>You don't like my menhera chicken who acts rudely to everyone? SCHIZO SCHIZO TAKE MEDS YOU MUST BE A SCHIZO
That's all you guys have left at this point and it's sad.

>> No.32583256

Nice doxx thread

>> No.32583275

>>32583189
Defending the honor of random vtubers on an image board is not a healthy way to live yet here you are.

>> No.32583322

>>32583189
I don't think Kiara means to be rude, she is just rude in a careless sort of way. Still bad though.

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>>32583194
pure concentrated austism

>> No.32583366

>>32582355
If you were buying this woman's etsy shots while people were sitting on her you prob love her.
Then some holo newfag wants to bust a nut to her shots.

I see why these loons are so tight

>> No.32583373

>>32583350

One same face

>> No.32583378

>>32583194
Kiara has a rather unhealthy relationship with her fans though doesn't she?

>> No.32583387

>>32583214
>who acts rudely to everyone?

The difference is that the chicken has no self awareness and does these things not out of malice, but because she's very unhinged. She has done it with genmates, her own chat, and when she realizes she apologizes (she did that multiple times during the last Gura collab for example, and also with her chat)

My problem is that you trannies want to make a big deal out of this, when it's just the chicken acting like the chicken.

Now go back.

>> No.32583433

>>32583378
I guess it actually does bother you that she does the whole "you guys are my employees, but YOU pay ME to work here" stuff? like you really can't tolerate something other than "wow thank you sooooo much you guys are sooooo sweet"

>> No.32583438

>>32583387

Not everyone is trans

>> No.32583441

>>32583322
Exactly.

>>32583275
I'm just correcting idiots like you, and helping this shit thread get to bump limit

>> No.32583490

>>32583387
>The difference is that the chicken has no self awareness
this couldn't be further from the truth, she deliberately makes it part of her character. I guess you don't watch her though so this is kind of like trying to argue with someone about Sword Art Online when they dropped it in the first two episodes

>> No.32583520

>>32583256
Calm the fuck down loser.

All the girls doxxed themselves. Kiara still uploads her other persona

Gura referenced her other character in her debut and multiple times after

Mori was already established as a rapper on YouTube

Ame was always a toxic troll

>> No.32583535

>>32583441

Until the antis yet another hate thread. Welcome to 4chan.

>> No.32583580

>>32583387
Why are you posting like that?
Regardless I agree with what you say in regard to her being unhinged rather than malicious but my takeaway is different. It explains her bad behavior but it doesn't excuse it. Realizing after you do something bad and then not taking steps to correct it going forward is also a bad thing in and of itself.
I don't hate her but I don't enjoy her content or her worst behavior and hope she'll improve. I'm wondering if moving back to her homeland will be good for her mental state.

>> No.32583584

>>32583438
>Doesn't deny it

>> No.32583585

>>32583490
How can it be a part of her character when she was like that before joining Hololive?

>> No.32583587

>>32583438
Whatever, lolcows have no business lurking /jp/.

>>32583520
>She has a real life
>Therefore she's doxxing herself

>> No.32583589

>>32583535
nah don't put that evil on 4chan, this is a uniquely /jp/ thing. the funny thing is these threads actually quarantine the Kiara antis. go into the Global thread during one of Kiara's streams and it's just people who actually watch her having an actual conversation about her instead of comparing schizo footnotes.

>> No.32583593

>>32583520

So they are sucked outside of Ina. Nice to hear that. What dumb bitches.

>> No.32583636

>>32583585
the fact that she was like that before Hololive doesn't mean she lacks self-awareness. I'm saying the fact that she builds it into her persona proves she's self-aware.

>> No.32583644

>>32583584

Because 4chan is for trolling and not for real discussion

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Stay mad

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>>32583593
>So they are sucked
it's always the ESLs somehow

>> No.32583669

>>32583433
You guess incorrectly. I think the bigger issue is that after years of crushing failures at her dreams she is desperate for validation and her fawns provide it by fawning over her and she obsesses over them back. And when intrudes on that she gets very upset and moody. It is a rather poisonous codependent relationship and I worry it will get in the way of her personal growth.

>> No.32583673

>>32583587

And you will never stop it

>> No.32583685

Kiara is shit

>> No.32583704

>>32583584
Who are you quoting?

>> No.32583706

>>32580292
who she was b4 tho?

>> No.32583723

>>32583669
>and her fawns provide it by fawning over her
like, you know, an idol?
>and she obsesses over them back
do you have an example of Kiara "obsessing over" her fans?

>> No.32583724

>>32583589

>don't put that evil on 4chan

The evil will always happened here because you're on 4chan

>> No.32583753

Do these threads purely exist to shit on Kiara?

>> No.32583765

>>32583724
>man 4chan is the asshole of the internet, I come here to be edgy and mean to people
sometimes I forget how many children use this site

>> No.32583770

>>32583657

>Falls for the bait

>> No.32583794

>>32583753
yes. but they serve the convenient function of quarantining a very devout group of lolcow expats.

>> No.32583801

>>32583753
Apparently. It's pretty autistic.

>> No.32583815

>>32583753
No but lots of people don't like her very much so in a thread devoted to discussing her it will be expressed.. It's okay though.

>> No.32583835

why does she have no porn

>> No.32583838

>>32583753

Yes lmao. This is /jp/ after all. This site is ass

>> No.32583839

>>32583587
Gura has a million subs on her other persona, she referenced and keeps referencing this character. It's why she blew up so fast. Her old fans found her.

Kiara has already said her other character is her dream. And holo is increasing her other characters popularity.

More people are finding moris music

And ame is ame

I'd agree with you but most of the cast is doing it themselves

>> No.32583868

>>32583366
Supposedly there are torrents but they're all hard to get access to, for that exact reason

>> No.32583872

>>32583835
her fans don't lewd her, even though she really wants them to. she's kind of like Luna in that sense

>> No.32583873

>>32583835
I don't think she ever reached that level of desperation, which is good. I wonder if it would have happened if she hadn't made the cut for Hololive though considering her other prospects.

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My issue with Kiara is that she actively panders to the absolute worst dregs of western fandom and we end up getting chats spammed with shit like "Make an onlyfans" and "say trans rights"

>> No.32583887

>>32583765

Then get the fuck out then bitch

>> No.32583901

>>32583868
they're on private trackers.

>> No.32583908

>>32583723
I'm pretty sure she's admitted to stalking KFP employees on twitter. Plus she tends to recognize when someone changes their youtube name. I don't know how unhealthy it is, but she definitely is way more into her comunity than the average vtuber, or at least the rest of EN.

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>>32583887
no

>> No.32583938

>>32583835

Ask herself

>> No.32583961

>>32583908
it's funny how you just described Kiara being good to her fans and having a personalized relationship with members of her community and somehow made it sound like a bad thing

>> No.32583963

>>32583835
Because holo stopped her from being broke and it would prob kill her other character and she prob values it more then her life

>> No.32583972

>>32583669
>It is a rather poisonous codependent relationship and I worry it will get in the way of her personal growth.

Well then you should be happy to hear that she's planning on fixing many aspects of her life now that she has a very large and loyal fanbase for the first time in her life who, outside of doxxniggers, wish her the best.

There's plenty examples of her improving like how she's releasing more songs, wants to start cooking, wants to go to the doctor, wants to fix her sleep schedule, etc.

Maybe she's clingy to her jannies but she was always desperate to find fans as loyal as the jannies and to interact with them

If anything, her fans before KFP are a failure for not being able to fix in years as much shit as KFP has done in a few months. Most of her previous life fans I've seen are weirdos.

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>>32582870
You will never be a woman.

>> No.32583977

>>32583908
>>32583723
I think she takes a more emotional stake in what her fans say than most. That could be good but it also can be bad of course.

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>>32583765
We'll endeavor to try and be more le heckin wholesome for you, kind sir

>> No.32583984

>>32583926

Then shut the fuck ip

>> No.32584025

>>32583876

Okay, 4channer

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>>32583975
>Hate trannies
>Hate Kiara
Feels good to be a tradcath

>> No.32584062

>>32583839
>Kiara has already said her other character is her dream.

She also said Hololive was going to be just a part time thing and that she was going to continue with cosplay and other stuff.

Now she's considering going to conventions just as herself, not cosplaying. Hololive turned her life around 180°.

>> No.32584065

>>32583972
Well I hope it goes well. I don't enjoy her content much or the kiara persona but I hope she is able to get better anyway.

>> No.32584067

>>32584027

Samefagging

>> No.32584099

>>32584027
>tradcath
I'm sorry but catamites deserve the rope too

>> No.32584103

>>32584027

Trans rights

>> No.32584110

>>32584067
>Reddit spacing
you don't even know what samefagging is you dumb nigger

>> No.32584115

>>32584062
No shit because she was broke and her japan dream was dying cause of covid

>> No.32584125

>>32583901
My kingdom for it

>> No.32584143

>>32584110

Racist

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>> No.32584199

>>32583194
I came to a similar conclusion a few months ago anon. Gura is too safe, too innocent, and it feels too fake, too fabricated. Calli, I don't even know what she's trying to do. Ina pretends to be laid back, but you can tell it's fake.

But then there's Kiara. I swear, if I listen to her broadcasts and hear that voice for about 10 minutes. It's fecal urgency. I'm dead serious, with Calli it's instant constipation, a painful sensation in my lower gut as everything grinds to a halt. But the moment I hear that kikirikiiii my colon starts to spasm, the pain subsides and 10 minutes later I find myself seated on my porcelain throne, emptying the contents of my bowels in rapid voluminous contractions.

Some day I hope to meet her after not watching her streams for a month, possibly share with her why I love her so much, and how much she has improved my quality of life with these regular expedient shits. And while she recoils in disgust I can only hope she loudly screams at me to get away from her, stimulating my colon after a months worth of constipation, erupting like Vesuvius.

She will gaze at it in awe, like the citizens of Pompei did in the final moments before they were buried by the earths constipated mass. It will be my final gift to her, and you anon, you will remember this post when the headlines appear about the demise of Tokyo.

>> No.32584210

>>32583972
>If anything, her fans before KFP are a failure for not being able to fix in years as much shit as KFP has done in a few months. Most of her previous life fans I've seen are weirdos.
See this is what makes me really happy. Kiara was trying to be famous by waving her ass around and dressing in sexy outfits, but Hololive let her become famous for her personality, which must be pretty uplifting for her in a way. it's like yes Kiara you do have a nice ass, but you don't NEED it, we love you even if you're just some 2D fast food boss with a retarded outfit, because we love the way your ridiculous brain works and your outside-the-box sense of humour. like really happy for Kiara, and glad she got famous in Hololive so I could become a fan of hers.

>> No.32584224

>>32583868
I have a few sets and partials. They were a pain in the dick to find.

>> No.32584256

>>32583753
They exist because mods refuse to do their job. Its fucking stupid to have separate threads for the chubas

>> No.32584267

>>32584125
sorry anon that would put me in the usual room pretty quick
>>32584199
you worked hard on this post and it shows

>> No.32584328

>>32583961
>>32583977
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but it can lead to unfavorable situations. For example, that one guy who made her cry on Christmas with his superchat, was someone who had made fanart for her before, so she probably recognized his name, which is also why it upset her so much.

>> No.32584412

>>32584328
Kiara actually loves being in Hololive. it's not a means to an end for her. she wants everything she does to be something she can be proud of, she's very invested in it. so she works hard on stuff like Holotalk and refuses to do lowest common denominator shit like ASMR streams because they're the kind of content she wouldn't personally enjoy herself. so for that reason she takes criticism pretty harshly, and the fact that a lot of people love what shes does isn't enough to console her especially if people she knows are her fans criticize her.

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>>32584199
Unusual room for you comrad, you deserve it.

>> No.32584441

>>32584328
I think that stems from that while she knows better than the literally break the rommmate vtuber barrier she still does so emotionally and overly invests in her kiara persona and how people react to it.

>> No.32584462

>>32584256

This is 4chan. What's moderating lol

>> No.32584518

/eceleb/ when

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>>32584199

>> No.32584545

>>32584462
Stop revealing you are underageb&

>> No.32584558

She also had some serious depression and still followed her dream.

When I was depressed I didn't do anything

>> No.32584574

>>32584545

Stop getting mad lol

>> No.32584655

Orange is the new black. kek

>> No.32584714

>>32584224
>>32584267
I won't ask directly then, but where might one begin the painful and arduous search for forbidden knowledge?

>> No.32584739

>>32584714

5chan

>> No.32584784

Doxx the mods

>> No.32584817

>>32584714
>forbidden knowledge?

So you are one of the fags from the doxx discord that keeps getting 404'd. Throw yourself from a helicopter.

>> No.32584895

>>32584817
I really don't know how else you'd rather I put it when I'm trying to sound like a pretentious fuckwit for giggles.

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Can you shitheads go back to shit on kiara, im trying to have fun here.

>> No.32585081

>>32584817

You got the doxx discord? I need nudes right now on these hos

>> No.32585116

>>32585016

Ame is fucking terrible too

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>>32584199
ngl i kek'd

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>>32585206
Keekiriked LMAAAAOOO, here champ the cool kids use this one.

>> No.32585397

>>32585360

Ew

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>>32585016
shitting on kiara can be fun too tho

>> No.32585471

>>32585360
what the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.32585474

>>32585360
She literally bans niggers like you from her accounts.

>> No.32585576

>>32584714
You're just going to have to dig. Full HD sets are hard to come by unless you're in a group and those cunts are stingy. You can find some shots but they'll be patreon cosplay shit or samples that kiara dropped that are blurred. Its the etsy shots you want and not too many people have them cause they were separate from the patreon.

>> No.32585664

>>32585576
Makes sense. Well, I've been neglecting my reps anyway, I'll try digging through 5ch and see if I can turn up anything worth examining further. It's a shame. I find her to be quite pretty, and the fact that the Etsy stuff is taken down is...disheartening, I suppose. Antis are gonna say I have shit taste, but I dunno, something about her makes me want to see more of her.

>> No.32585707

>>32585664
>something about her makes me want to see more of her.
There's plenty of people like you, they all end up badly

>> No.32585752

>>32585664
I kinda feel the same. I don't find her [that] attractive, but for some reason I wouldn't mind coming across these shots. Not even for fap material. Pure curiosity. A pretty rare feeling IMO

>> No.32585780

>>32585707
I've already ended up badly and I'm gonna die alone, your point?

>> No.32585795

>>32585780
it's never too late king

>> No.32585992

>>32585780

Stop posting and die then

>> No.32586070

Kiaras etsy sets aren't hard to find. They've been posted so much that they're shit quality. And the really hot sets are are stupid hard to find in complete sets and almost impossible in HD

>> No.32586169

>>32585992
You first :D

>> No.32586627

>>32585780
Tenchou is a source of inspiration and energy, and that things can turn out well even if everything before has been shitty.

But you are choosing to obsess over the roommate. That is what doxxfaggotry does to your brain. You can do better, anon.

>> No.32586667

>>32586169

Ugly God is right

>> No.32586776

>>32586627
I don't know that choosing is the right word, more like falling into the hole. I need to make the choice to pick myself up and climb out of it.

>> No.32586850

>>32586776
Self awareness is the first step.

>> No.32586906

>>32586776
>I need to make the choice to pick myself up and climb out of it.

Then do it. Tenchou literally stayed on her room doing nothing obsessing over hololive and still managed to find a place where she fits.
At the end of the day, KFP can also be your family, but obsessing over the roommate will only make you one of those people who hurt the community.

>> No.32587347

>>32586776

Fake depression. Shut the fuck up.

>> No.32587380

>>32586906
>>32586850
>>32586776

Samefag

>> No.32587434

GET IN HERE BROS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNphORD-Nl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNphORD-Nl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNphORD-Nl8

>> No.32587438

>>32587380
No I don't like Gura much.

>> No.32587513

>>32585206
>animeposter
The absolute state of antis

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>>32587380

>> No.32587599

>>32587513
I'm not even an anti lmao
I'm trying to watch her regularly and I don't do stupid shit
Why can't I have laugh about something absurd

>> No.32587713

>>32587555
it's no use, anon. this is the guy you're dealing with:
>>32587347
>>32586667
>>32585992
>>32585397
>>32585116
>>32584574
>>32584462
>>32584143
>>32584103
>>32584067
>>32584025
>>32583984
>>32583938
>>32583887
>>32583838
>>32583724
>>32583673
>>32583644
>>32583593
>>32583535
>>32583373

>> No.32587901

>>32587713
The longer he focuses on my inane bullshit, the more of his time I waste.

>> No.32588828

>>32587901
But aren't you wasting time too giving him (you)s? The pig doesn't become cleaner when you catch it in the pen, you just get dirtier.

>> No.32588833

>>32567611
>>32567463
No, it's just anti retards pretending to talk to each other.

>> No.32589000

Did I miss something? How did the thread shit itself up so fast to almost 400 posts?

>> No.32589213

>>32589000
It wasn't that fast.
But Kiara provokes strong opinions in people.

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Kiara is a good girl and bottom left and I hope she maintains her success at Hololive.

>> No.32589890

>>32565165
I want her to use my face as her chair

>> No.32591435

>>32589000
I hate Kiara and I have tried to explain my reasoning here and in other threads before, but the way this thread went to shit is sad.
So I would like to offer the KFP redemption. Give me the best Kiara moments or things you like about her. Anything that makes me hate her less is welcome.

>> No.32592028

>>32584143
>>32584103
you have to go back

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