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A place for discussion of the works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese)
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English)
https://emptyboundaries.wordpress.com/2011/07/25/kara-no-kyokai-translations-2/
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN
https://mega.nz/#!6TBSSTbR!4O6JYv1dyyRw7GQeHJ4NIUYUTQ--tuy9H8s69HgL5lY
Tsukihime PLUS-DISC
https://nyaa.si/view/453758
Tsukihime Kagetsu Tohya
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3301601
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!dRwwAZrT!uxmDDlwDTu3bgo9QIKgSrQ

>Melty Blood
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MBAACC - Community Edition
https://mega.nz/#!6FUx2C6a!L2AxbiQzPHtgRI3YPHv4NZfi2EYS9RMeNHoSp6pAcFw
Melty Blood Manga
https://mega.nz/#F!syICRSJI!TeAS9ZVFSDQigguqxn_MwA
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3113948
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
Fate/Zero
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-5XtCxJULf4YWZfSkZKWGc2S2M
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5943-Lord-El-Melloi-II-Case-Files
The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/fQFiyY4I#UcZr7N0u3_35994pXKP8qw
Heaven's Feel Manga
https://lovehug.net/730

>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
VN: https://mega.nz/#F!YVkkhAjQ!Ggu2BS3MDfaofporByJsFw
English patch: https://hollow-moon.github.io
French patch: https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian patch: https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Angel Voice
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
>Fate/Apocrypha
https://fateapocryphathetranslation.wordpress.com
>Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack
>Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver
https://mega.nz/#!aAsCybqb!WwnKiMn_HK9HqvA_myhLn5GM0yeAv8TTxyQsWWpqaGs
>Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
>Fate/type Redline
https://mangadex.org/title/44059/fate-type-redline
>Fire Girl
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
>Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/lli17cum6jzg7/Marmalade
>Tsuki no Sango
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
>Tsuki no Sango Manga
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1

>Beast's Lair
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com
>Encyclopedia of Type Moon
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49crU71miHObWRvV2tDUllYTjQ
>Fate/complete material II Character material
https://pastebin.com/Zjy1Sj6d (embed) (embed) (embed)
>Fate Franchise Lossless Soundtracks
https://mega.nz/#F!OQwx1DYA!1c0Dkm1VfOPpthg6etuU4g
>Type-Moon Comic Ace
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
>TMdict Glossary
https://www.tmdict.com
>Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc)
https://www.tsukikan.com
>Tsukihime Archives
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
>TYPE-MOON 10th Anniversary Phantasm
http://heavens-feel.com/type-moon_10_anniversary_phantasm_translation.html
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This poster is actually better than the soulless Servantfes with G*d* poster.
Imagine instead of wasting shit in FGO, it was a story of a homunculus girl tutored by King Solomon as human and explored the morality of mages who took his former teachings and is about changing that monolith institution with Team A as sort of revolutionaries. Grail War being just a background for Roman's story.

>> No.35898598

/tmg/ will never be good again.

>> No.35898604

>>35898414
wrong thread, retard

>> No.35898727

>>35898604
sorry I thought I was in the type-moon general

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have you come to terms with them being recast

>> No.35898775

>>35898745
>no Jouji Nakata
no, I never will

>> No.35898805

>>35898745
I'm not all that attached to Roa's voice, but Nero's different.
My favourite Melty voice is Zepia though, and he won't be in Lumina.

>> No.35898868

>>35898745
I'm not really attached to Nakata as Nero since it was just Melty Blood. It's not like he had any major lines. Roa's original VA is even less important.

>> No.35898921

TsukiR will need 40GB of storage for PS4. Must be due to the long soundtrack and uncompressed voice acting.

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>>35898921

>> No.35898969

>>35898745
I will just turn the voices of because half the cast actually sounds like shit. It's just not worth it

>> No.35898994

>>35898921
>>35898938
Nice. Can't wait for someone to figure out how to rip those juicy assets.

>> No.35899019

>>35898938
Honestly devs not compressing shit anymore kinda pisses me off.

>> No.35899024

>>35898868
He voices Nero in All Around Type Moon and Carnival Phantasm as well, and unlike Roa's seiyuu, he's had the role for almost 20 years. I'm going to be sad when they inevitably replace him.

>> No.35899032

>>35899019
You will listen to Fukusawa's soundtrack in FLAC.

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>> No.35899442

>>35898249
>Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga
How is it? Just discovered its existence

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Speaking of things to add to the Tsukihime Remake wishlist, I'd love to get more flashback scenes and details about the Nanaya people. I guess that kind of thing wouldn't happen until the far side though. The writing in these scenes is pretty godly at least, so maybe I can dream that there will be some hints or something sprinkled in.

>> No.35900393

>take moon mangaka actually wrote a short manga in the plus book of grand festival
do we know if he wrote grand festival or were just anime script?

>> No.35900776

>>35899442
Pretty good, best version of Arcueid’s route

>> No.35900812

>>35898745
I am "racist". I believe that not all ethnicities are biologically equivalently comparable, success-wise. Some cultures are superior/inferior to others. To deny this is to believe humans are some magical phenomenon exempt from nature.

>> No.35900909

>>35899922
My wish is that the game has side stories like in Mahoyo/KT and we get a side story that’s basically Red Demon God. I hope the remake talks about his Nanaya past a little bit and more of his memories of Kiri. I always felt that Shiki could use more personal development and some more attachment to his old dad after breaking free from Makihisa’s brainwashing spell. It would make me like Shiki’s charcter a bit more if that was more of a focus and the Nanaya’s in general.

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>> No.35901328

>>35900812
uhm based?

>> No.35901406

Where can I find scans of vol. 1 of Type-Moon ACE? E-Hentai has up to vol. 13 but vol. 1 is notably missing the front cover.

>> No.35901606

>>35899019
Compression is mostly a media access tool. If your storage is slow, like on a DVD, it makes sense. But if all the data is on the system, you don't have to worry about things taking too long.

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>> No.35901669

>>35900812
Nasu posts here?

>> No.35901676

>>35900812
>>35901328
The Chinese are more successful than the Japanese

>> No.35901710

>>35898994
I want to use them to make a proper remaster of Tsukihime.
You know, keep the text entirely as it was, but use the Remake's sprites and backgrounds.
Probably won't have a lot of matching CGs (definitely none for sex scenes), but the sprites and backgrounds should easily match.
Might commission some pixiv artists for sex CGs if needed.

>> No.35901743

>>35901676
The Japanese invented cute anime girls so they are more successful.

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Brothers, what do you imagine will happen when Shallow Loon's translation of Mahoyo comes out?
A. It sucks and people start pointing out all the mistakes they made by using DeepL instead of actually translating.
B. It sucks, but no one cares because they still like FSN despite all the mistakes and just want to read Mahoyo no matter how bad it is even if they spend their time mocking Cokesakto's KnK.
C. It's fine, to everyone's surprise that the discord trannies managed to not ruin everything.

Alternatively, I really hope they all get hit by a car or get cancer or some shit for how quickly they claimed the Tsukihime translation project. Just look at this smug-ass cunt who represents them on youtube. https://youtu.be/1SyFn_X0qlE

By the way, I recently learned that there were supposedly changes made in KnK between the original blog/webnovel and the light novel release. Anything significant? Or did they just make Shiki less of a cunt to suicidal people?

>> No.35901797

>>35901756
Mixture of A and B. The translation will probably be really bad and JOPs will point it out. Takajun will look like a god in comparison. That said, people will read it anyway because nobody that really cares that much about translation quality stays an EOP. It would have to be on the extreme end of bad like Cokesato to actually detour people.

>KnK between the original blog/webnovel and the light novel release
KnK had a web novel? I mean it's not technically impossible but it was written in the 90s. I thought it was originally like a limited run of novels that nobody owns anymore before they got published again later.

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>>35901756

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this didn't age well.

>> No.35901867

>>35900909
>I always felt that Shiki could use more personal development and some more attachment to his old dad after breaking free from Makihisa’s brainwashing spell.
It's kind of against his whole character actually be like this, but then again Shiki does have some attachment to the past in the far side routes (esp. Kohaku's) so maybe it could work.

>> No.35901911

>>35901797
Kara no Kyoukai was originally posted (in part, up to chapter 5) to Nasu and Takeuchi's blog at the same time they were publishing it on paper
https://www.karanokyoukai.com/archive/nenpyo/index.html

>> No.35901923

>>35901756
>I really hope they all get hit by a car or get cancer

are you literally 14 yo?

>> No.35901935

>>35901756
>changes
I can't find any comparisons after a quick google. I'm pretty sure no plot points are changed though.
>>35901797
>KnK had a web novel?
The first 5 parts were released online, but the last 2 went straight to doujinshi and only 3 copies were made. Over two years later they printed two fat ass doujin books with every part included.

>> No.35901941

>>35901756
Except for the obvious grammatical errors, etc. the majority won't be able to tell if the translation is bad anyway. The normies will shit on Mahoyo because it's not like F/SN instead.

>> No.35901943

>>35901911
>>35901935
Wow I had no idea. Neat trivia.

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Damn I wish I had a yandere not-imouto gf.

>> No.35901974

>>35901956
Nasu has such good taste.

>> No.35901979

>>35901956
vermillion mode Akiha is one of the most seductive characters in the Nasuverse.

>> No.35902004

>>35901941
I'm really curious how the English VN community would react to Mahoyo. Would they love it? Hate it? I have genuinely no clue. I could see anything happen. A bad translation (likely) probably makes it much more probable for it to be disliked since much of the charm (at least for me anyway) is in the prose and writing style.

>> No.35902091

As an EOP myself, witnessing the FGC’s reaction to MB designs along with the general anime-going public’s willingness to eat up generic shonen shit has made me truly believe that EOPs deserve nothing in terms of quality foreign entertainment.

>> No.35902131

>>35902091
based self hating eop, don't forget to do naked dogeza for japanese twitter, they'll love it

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>> No.35902158

>>35902004
I think that for a lot of people, Mahoyo will be a forgettable visual novel, because in truth, it lacks the mainstream appeal that many other popular visual novels have. It doesn't have routes, no romance, barely any waifu bait appeal, not enough pointless action scenes, etc. I don't think Mahoyo will be hated, far from it, but it's going to be funny to see all those people who build false expectations for years because they saw Flat Snark vs Aoko on YT.

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>>35902091
you mean all the designs shit?
these people would probably jerk off to Shiki if he looked like this.

>> No.35902237

>>35902158
>barely any waifu bait appeal
Have you seen Aoko's tits though? Just saying.

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>>35902237
This is still the best official art I've seen of a character from Type Moon.
It pleases my dick plenty.

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>> No.35902321

>>35902237
guess he's talking about the story not really being one of romance like FSN and Tsukihime. And the no routes thing would be a different change of pace.

>> No.35902344

>>35902237
i don't think you can impress anyone with her tits in the post fgo world

>> No.35902351

>>35902321
Yeah I know what he means. But Alice and Aoko are both extremely appealing unless you're a massive homosexual.

>> No.35902373

>>35902351
That's true. People would want romance for them though like in other Nasu stories.

>> No.35902479

I want a Kuma route.

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Mahoyo is a cool game that almost much doesn't even try to have mainstream appeal. Fun fact: some time into development Nasu realised he should probably put a moe character into the game, which is how Kojika came into being. She ended up having a pretty edgy personality anyway though.

>> No.35902535

Mahoyo probably won't be as popular as FSN or Muv-Luv but just by its association to TM people will check it out.

>> No.35902601

>>35902535
I don't expect many people to play it honestly. The interest in it as died down for a while now and a select few will play it at this rate.

>> No.35903150

so what was Nasu thinking when he didn't hire VAs for Mahoyo?

>> No.35903191

>>35903150
"It's time to make kamige."

>> No.35903430

I want a Bazett route

>> No.35903455

>>35903430
Would the MC be Lancer, Kirei or Angra?
Maybe it would be an otome...

>> No.35903487

Maybe that rich cunt Dan Salvato will fund the remake translation. Tsukihime is his favorite VN.

>> No.35903512

>>35903487
Reminder that he has only played like 3 VNs but made a hit "parody" of the medium

>> No.35903516

>>35903455
Lancer ofc, idiot

>> No.35903524

>>35903150
genius move

>> No.35903601

>>35901756
Oh, grow up. Don't you have anything better to bring up than your hate boner for amateur translations?

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>>35903601
I can forgive Takajun, but discordtrannies deserve to be bullied

>> No.35903652

>>35903625
Go do it elsewhere, please.
It's not like the majority of the translation hasn't been available for a while. Anyone who cares that much either way is obviously decided on the matter.

>> No.35903661

>>35902004
>A bad translation (likely) probably makes it much more probable for it to be disliked since much of the charm (at least for me anyway) is in the prose and writing style.
People have never given a shit about bad translations for anything. Just look at literally any Type moon or square enix game

>> No.35903675

>>35903652
>Go do it elsewhere, please.
I won't, re-translation in the year of our lord 2021 is a sin and they should pay with their lives.

>> No.35903712 [DELETED] 

>>35903661
how about you go back to your discord server instead lmao

>> No.35903715

>>35903675
Being a retard is a sin and you should pay with your spinal cord

>> No.35903767

>>35903715
I might be a retard but I can read nip, sadly no one at Hollow Moon can say the same

>> No.35903830

I made another flash for you /tmg/!
>>/f/3469523

>> No.35903992

>>35901756
there's a decent amount of the translation already released anon. if you wanted to shit it on you can do it right now.

>> No.35904025

List of BASED Mahoyo reviews (100% EOP FREE):
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=rosetta
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=Nus2014
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=P+a+r+f+a+i+t
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=pantonpeke
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=isupon
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=dn7fr5yfk2
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=matori
https://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/memo.php?game=10935&uid=erogesaiko

>> No.35904049

>>35904025
>ゲームではない。選択肢はまったくない。おまけの1話にのみ選択肢があっただけ。
What a pleb

>> No.35904070

>>35903661
Well sure they don't care but bad translations certainly affect how a work is perceived. A good chunk of people judge Nasu's writing via Takajun's prose for instance.

>> No.35904096

>>35904070
I mean yeah, but theres really nothing you can do about it. People will grow attached to and defend literally anything

>> No.35904144

>>35903767
Maybe you should lend them a hand. Collective IQ might not go up so much but I think it will be a nice exercise in social interaction for you.

>> No.35904163

>>35904144
go back tranny

>> No.35904184

>>35904144
Thanks but I'd rather not interact with discordtrannies

>> No.35904197

>>35904184
You won't make many friends like that

>> No.35904204

>>35904197
/tmg/ are my friends!

>> No.35904213

Would you idiots stop talking about the Mahoyo TL team? The thread always turns to shit whenever people start bringing them up.

>> No.35904215

>>35904096
Very true, I'm pretty fond of the "hiding in the red of the setting sun" line from Arc's route

>> No.35904483

>>35901756
Two of the translators on the team are quite good, Andjew doesn't even do anything for the team and he admitted it himself.

>> No.35904529

>>35902344
Anyone can throw lewd shit at something, this filters the low test morons.

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Damn, I just finished the obligatory Tsukihime reread. The epilogue gets me everytime. Now to just wait for the remake. I'm totally going to squeeze another VN in before it comes out though.

>> No.35904810

>>35904712
What did you think about each route? Was it as good as when you first read it?

>> No.35904825

>>35904712
I last read it about 7 or 8 years ago when I decided not to touch it until Remake came out. Not about to break that promise to myself in the 11th hour.

>> No.35904871

>>35904810
This is my 3rd read and honestly my opinion hasn't really changed much. It holds up really well despite being a game with no budget and literally only 10 tracks in it. Tsukihime is a lot more memorable and most VNs for sure. There's no fluke there. As for the routes, I don't dislike the near side, but the far side is a lot better really. While I was reading Arc and Ciel's routes, I took it more slowly and paced myself out. It's not that they are bad routes or anything. There's a lot of good moments in them. Even the often disparaged Ciel's route is great when it fully diverges from Arc. But truly the best and most memory part of the story is the stuff about the Tohno family and Shiki. Once I got to Akiha's route, I basically couldn't put it down. My personal favorite route is still Hisui's. Like everyone always says, reading about Shiki just going batshit crazy in his bad is surprisingly amazing. I swear like half of that route is just the fucking bedroom CG but somehow it works out so well. Kohaku's route I also enjoy nearly as much. So I guess the ranking for the routes goes as Hisui > Kohaku > Akiha > Arc > Ciel. Akiha is still my personal favorite girl though. I could never say no to her.

>> No.35904913

Fgo is better than fate stay virgin

>> No.35904997

>>35904913
based!

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>>35904913
Kill yourself fast

>> No.35905140

>>35905107
Get back to the kitchen, that's all youre good for

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Well this was a random ass ending. Ciel didn't even appear in his arcade run.

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New lore learned: Kohaku can drive.

>> No.35905833

will Tsukihime 2 become a thing

>> No.35905840

>>35905833
Yes.

>> No.35905842

>>35905840
Thanks Nasu.

>> No.35905885

>>35905833
Maybe if you buy Tsukihime 1.

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>> No.35906051

touko

>> No.35906060

>>35905833
I assume so if TsukiR sells well. I expect a tease to the future with Shiki breaking Arc out of the castle in a last episode final ending in TsukiR

>> No.35906723

>>35905448
is that a motherfucking kobeni's car?

>> No.35906800

>>35904913
Unbelievably based

>> No.35907025

>>35904049
>It's not a game. The choices are not complete. The Omake is only one talk with alternative choices
Uh, I don't really understand the last part, I don't think I'm ready for the remake.

>> No.35907657
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>>35907025

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>>35907657
Well it was closer than I thought it would be, but it's still pretty bad, yeah.

>> No.35907959

>>35904712
Speaking of Tsukihime and translations.
I think Tsukihime got the best english translation, honestly. FSN has too many hiccups and the rest is debatable too, like FHA.
Am I wrong?

>> No.35909127

>>35900776
The manga is great so far (vol 3), how many of the routes does it cover?

>> No.35909152

>>35907959
Just use DeepL. It has almost reached perfection

>> No.35909270

>>35909152
 お医者さんは、僕に聞こえないように、こっそりと看護婦さんに話しかけた。
「・・・ヘンなの。みんな体中にラクガキしてる」
 くろい、ぐちゃぐちゃした線が、病院じゅうに走ってる。
 意味はよくわからないけど、見ているだけでとても気持ちがわるい。
「・・・なんだろう、コレ」
 ベッドにもラクガキがある。
 指で触ってみたら、つぷり、と指先が沈み込んだ。
「―――あ」
 もっと細い物で触れたら奥まで沈みそうなので、棚におかれた果物ナイフでラクガキをなぞってみた。
 何の力もいれてないのに、ナイフは根元までベッドに沈み込む。
 面白かったから、そのままラクガキどおりにナイフを引いた。
 ごとん。
 重い音をたてて、ベッドはキレイに裂けてしまった。
「きゃあああああ!」

The doctor spoke to the nurse secretly, so that I wouldn't hear.
"...It's weird. People are drawing all over themselves.
 There are black, messy lines running all over the hospital.
 I don't know what it means, but it's very unpleasant to look at.
"What's this?
 There were also graffiti on the bed.
 I touched it with my finger, and my fingertip sank into it.
"Oh..."
 If I touched it with a thinner object, it would sink deeper, so I traced the graffiti with a fruit knife on the shelf.
 Even though I didn't put any effort into it, the knife sank into the bed up to its base.
 It was fun, so I drew the knife in the same direction as the drawing.
 Thump.
 With a heavy sound, the bed was ripped clean apart.
"The bed ripped clean apart with a heavy thud.
Aaaaah!

>> No.35909956

>>35909270
still better than tranny moon translations

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>>35909270
>People are drawing all over themselves

>> No.35910217
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>> No.35910268

>>35907959
I don't really remember the English anymore. It's been way too long. Out of the Type-Moon VNs Tsukihime (and Kagetsu Tohya by extension) is probably the easiest though so that sounds plausible. KT's translation is some horrid double T/L or something that makes Takajun look great so I guess Tsuki wins by default.

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>> No.35910574

>>35907959
Tsukihime is a decent TL and F/HA is acceptable and it even translates the Ruby text which is neat.

>> No.35910654

>>35910217
>that rider
you just know

>> No.35910991

>>35909127
Just Arcueid’s, but it uses the other routes to add on the experience if that makes sense

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>> No.35912169

What's the opinion on Cokesakto's "translation" of Kara no Kyoukai around here?
Someone is trying to convince me to read it since apparently it's way better than KnK is originally (I've read it in Japanese already).

>Objectively this person's translation of Kara no Kyoukai is the best of any Nasu work put out. It flows well, is snappy, and far more entertaining just to read.
Is he trolling me? Or is Coke's translation actually the better product in the end? I know he basically played editor with KnK instead of merely translating.

>> No.35912231

>>35912169
If you know that someone IRL, you have my permission to kneecap him.

>> No.35912314

>>35912169
Cokesakto's "translation" is so fucking garbage that in the intro he randomly added an extra line that explictly tells you that a person fell off the building. That completely defeats the point of all the imagery and diction Nasu was using.

>> No.35912510

>>35912231
Will do.
>>35912314
Yeah, I noticed the needless prose right away. I can't imagine going the entire way with all that nonsense. I imagine doing this constantly fucks with the characters' personalities and traits somewhat too, since I doubt he asked Nasu what to add and what not to.

>> No.35912587
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Imagine if TYPE-MOON made a VN during Takeuchi's peak years (2008-2011)

>> No.35912596

>>35912169
>>35912231
>>35912314
Knowing Nasu, if he read Cokesakto's version he would most likely declare it the definitive version.
Nasu is retarded like that sometimes.

>> No.35912614

>>35912587
Real talk. Who colorized this?
I think Takeuchi only does the art but not the colors, right?
The coloring in Melty Blood is just fantastic.

Hell, look how much difference it makes between Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya CGs.
KT's CGs look really good despite the art not being that much different, simply because the coloring is really nice.

>> No.35912619

>>35912596
It's in English though and we know Nasu hates gaijin so there's no way.

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>>35912614
eh, that's a bit disrespectful to Takeuchi. He's a talented artist when he's given enough time to work unlike Tsukihime and the line art in this picture is good.

>> No.35912713

>>35912614
>Who colorized this
Aotsuki Takao.

>> No.35913120

>type moon translations
https://youtu.be/ZmCJVMcrsFg?t=2358

>> No.35913355

>>35913120
why would you post that ugly fuck here?

>> No.35914995

>>35913120
this kills the thread

>> No.35915024

>>35913355
rude post

>> No.35915093

>>35913355
Insulting people's for being ugly is wrong, bro. Insulting people for their inferior race, their incorrect sexuality, or their awful religion? Fine. But not how unfuckable he clearly is.

>> No.35915116

>>35913120
>>35913355
Has Albert met Nasu irl?
Apparently most of the people involved with Fate and F/GO have.

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35915327

Happy to see Robin is going to swim safely in the beach.

>> No.35915553

>>35915116
I think he mentioned it or someone said that he did. Wouldn't be surprised if he did.

>> No.35915579

>>35915327
That is by far the most booba they have drawn.

>> No.35916118

>>35905448
Pretty sure this is mentioned in either Tsukihime or KT.

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>> No.35916154

>>35916118
I think that's true, since I remember Kohaku volunteering to drive for Shiki in the parody side story in KT called imiogrissu or whatever it's called.

>> No.35916916

>>35916118
>>35916154
I wonder if that's how she took Shiki home when he fainted after he assassinated Arc

>> No.35917006

>>35916916
that makes sense. Man Kohaku really can do anything, huh?

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>> No.35917725

>>35912614
>I think Takeuchi only does the art but not the colors, right?
Correct, I don't think hes coloured anything since Tsukihime.

>> No.35918061
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There is no heroic spirit cuter than saber

>> No.35918094 [SPOILER] 
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>>35918061
Incorrect

>> No.35918120

>>35918061
t. Takeuchi

>> No.35918160

>>35918061
Every SN servant is cute.

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>>35918061
based and saberpilled

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>>35918061
Based SaberCHAD

>> No.35918529

>>35918160
Even true Assassin?

>> No.35918731

>>35918384
>>35918267
>>35918061
worst Fate and worst route

>> No.35918889

>>35918160
berserker is cute?

>> No.35918986

>>35918529
He is actually. Hops around like a grasshopper and makes funny noises.

>> No.35919033

>>35918889
The way he protects Illya is cute.

>> No.35919205

fate is for asshats

>> No.35920021
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>> No.35920510

>>35920021
me irl

>> No.35920548

isn't the limited edition of MB a bit expensive or is it just me?

>> No.35920842

>>35912639
I didn't mean to insult the guy. Without his art, there wouldn't be anything to colorize in the first place. It's just that good colors and shading make his art shine brighter than otherwise.

>> No.35920855

>>35918731
>worst Fate
Oh no... the FGO sluts have invaded the thread...
>worst route
No, that's Heaven's Feel.

>> No.35920900

>>35918731
>>35920855
It all sucks.

>> No.35921150

>People who started with Fate
>See Noel
>Think she is gonna be the Taiga of Tsukihime where she brings the humour to Tsukihime
>And like Taiga she is gonna survive all the route's in the game
>She dies horribly in both Arcuied and Ciel route
That's what I think is gonna happen

>> No.35921234

>>35921150
Why are they adding a new character in just to kill it off in all routes

>> No.35921345

>>35921234
why are they talking about a satsuki route only to not make it for literally 20 years

>> No.35921397

>>35921345
Because Nasu is retarded, but I think the new character will have a bit more purpose than just getting killed off by one of the antagonists.

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>>35918529
True Assassin is the cutest!

>> No.35922088

>>>/v/565815990
Imagine this being your best argument for hating Mahoyo Aoko and only liking Tsuki/Melty Aoko.
It isn't an argument, nor is it right.

>> No.35922119

>>35918731
>worst Fate
Shes not Rin so she cant be

>worst route
Its not UBW so it cant be

>> No.35922223

>>35912639
I like Takeuchi but I think this is Koyama's

>> No.35922617

>>35901018
I love you and I'd fuck you more often than your boring re-design.

>> No.35925260

>>35920548
That's just how Japs price their shit.

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Shiki needs to cherish his cute imouto more!

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>> No.35927120

>tfw temped to buy digital version when I already ordered physical
I just don't want to wait.

>> No.35927235

>>35927120
isn't it 18+
does PSN JP have some age verfication bullshit?

>> No.35927286

>>35927120
Just pirate it anyway so you don't have to wait for your copy to arrive.

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>> No.35927318

>>35927286
I don't think there will be ISOs day 1. Source: every other eroge release ever

>> No.35927329

>>35927318
But it's Type-Moon. Surely. I think some releases get put up pretty fast after they come out. I'd have to double check though since I admittedly don't really keep track.

>> No.35927461

>>35927329
I'm pretty sure all the major VN rippers don't touch console games at all, I have no fucking idea who supplies them.

>> No.35927490

>>35927318
It honestly depends on the game. Some get ripped on Day 1 and others take over a week, never longer than that though. I think the Remake’s going to take a few days, being 40 gigs and all

>> No.35927511

>>35927490
aren't switch Cartridges only 32 gigs? Nasu is really okay with compression of one version but not a PC release?

>> No.35927515

Since we all know Remake is shit written garbage for FGO zoomers it's good time to re-read classics

>> No.35927519

>>35927515
>Since we
>we

>> No.35927540

>>35927519
It is a well-known fact. There is a reason why no one hype Demake across entire 4chan outside of few coping nu-Nasu shills. Even /a/ shit on it.

>> No.35927577

>>35927540
I mean nasufags unironically defend the remake by saying the first tsukihime release only had 2 routes, even though it was just an extended demo that they sold 300 copies of at comiket. And it released 4 months before the full game.

>> No.35927588

>>35927511
Nasu is pretty biased towards Sony so it wouldn’t surprise me. IIRC you can’t buy the digital deluxe edition on the Switch, only on PS4

>> No.35927598

>>35927540
>>35927577
Bored today, aren't we?

>> No.35927606

>>35927598
yeah, waiting for the release date for the rest of the game

>> No.35927607

>>35927461
not sure about the ps4 but even the most random switch games are always available day 1, basically as soon as they hit the store you'll see XCI/NSP in the next few hours. or if someone managed to get a copy earlier and bothered enough to post it online we may be able to play earlier. the question is, would the switch emulator work day one?

>> No.35927673

>>35927607
switch emulation is ass so you should fully expect visual and adui bugs out the ass

>> No.35927682

Remember the cases of ps4 censorship. I would wait before pre-ordering ps4 version

>> No.35927691

>>35927682
I mean if thats a thing and Nasu intentionally doesn't tell anyone after going on about "muh perfect experience" he can actually suck my cock

>> No.35927692

>>35927682
I bought the switch one and I don't even own a switch.

>> No.35927716

>>35927682
what censorship tho? cero Z pretty much guarantees it has everything beside porn

>> No.35927720

>>35927716
not for ps4 because they censor all-age games

>> No.35927739

>>35927716
sony california literally sends japanese devs emails in english telling them to remove shit from their games or they won't let them get published

>> No.35927745

>>35927691
It doesn't share on all consoles. Switch is free from all this as far as I know. Nasu owns both ps4/5 and switch for sure

>> No.35927756

>>35927720
what's the point of the rating then? give cero Z and censor gore? you ok?

>> No.35927765

>>35927739
maybe you haven't heard yet but tsuki R has no international release

>> No.35927778

>>35927756
anon the japanese rating system literally has nothing to do with sony as a company being retarded. the rating system has zero involvement with that. They probably won't censor gore but there's like a 50% chance pantyshots or whatever are cropped on PS4 thanks to sony. Meanwhile last of us 2 has onscreen sex

>> No.35927787

>>35927765
They did this to JP only games too. VNs actually. Who knows they can strike at any time

>> No.35927810

>>35927765
anon have you been living under a rock? Sony moved their console HQ to california, gaijins now hold absolute power over even japan exclusive games. They even censored blood doki doki literature club dlc and it isn't even an actual japanese game

>> No.35927818

>>35927673
yeah, i guess that's expected. wonder how much time it'll take for the game to run well on emulator though.

>> No.35927849

>>35927810
>gaijins now hold absolute power over even japan exclusive games
>doki doki literature club

yeah right

>> No.35927863

>>35927849
so you really are retarded, as expected.

>> No.35927880

>>35927863
you talk stupid shit and i am the one retarded here? lol

>> No.35927890

>>35927880
you're not aware of basic news that has been around for 3 years and you can't even read my post correctly

>> No.35927907

>>35927890
sorry for not monitoring /v/ all day long, kid

>> No.35927944

>>35927907
yeah, I guess a retard like you really would just sit in this thread all day every day for 3 years and ignore every single news post about the issue, available in every major language, and then talk shit to people that actually know what is going on in the industry.

>> No.35927987

>>35927944
>talk shit to people

oh right it was me who called you retarded out of the blue, silly me

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>>35927907
/v/ has best VN and Fate threads

>> No.35927991

We're going see those senran kagura like side by side comparisons of the switch and ps4 version that have lights covering half of the screen.

>> No.35928045

>>35927989
>live broadcast

wow i guess that's truth, lol

>> No.35928064

>>35927991
>believing everything you see on internet

everyone can use photoshop

>> No.35928079

>>35928045
>>35928064
Do you work for Sony or something? They literally have said that they changed their standards for sexual content because of metoo.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sony-metoo-censorship-playstation-games-2019-4#sony-is-taking-a-proactive-approach-to-combat-sexism-in-gaming-but-with-no-written-guidelines-it-will-be-hard-for-the-company-to-define-what-is-or-isnt-acceptable-4

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>>35927765
anon...

>> No.35928100

>>35928079
>sexual content

so what it has to do with tsuki R?

>> No.35928134

>>35928100
Nevermind, you're obviously the resident shitposter. I don't know why I'm even bothering. Anyways, just because there won't be any H scenes doesn't necessarily mean that sexual content will be zero. I mean fuck just look at some FGO designs.

>> No.35928219

Wasn't fucking Doki Doki Literature Club censored in play station? What's going to happen with Arc in 17 pieces?

>> No.35928402

>half the game
>console exclusive because fuck the original fans who bought the PC doujin
>no porn
>Nu-Takeuchi art
>shitty ufotable cutscenes
>40+ fucking gigabytes

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>>35928402
thanks for the /vn/ check bro, I'm glad no one is going to be able to read the remake

>> No.35928435

>>35928423
no one there*

>> No.35928492

>>35928219
I really hope Shiki still cums after the slice and dice.

>> No.35928511

>>35928492
I hope not. It was cringe.

>> No.35928532

>>35928511
>cringe
If you don't like the edge, why would you even read Tsukihime?

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>>35918061

>> No.35928611

>>35928532
Because Tsukihime is not about edge everyone memeing around? It has some vibes but overall it is "dark mystery". Similar to Shirou's night adventures in Fuyuki

>> No.35928688

>>35928134
>FGO designs

so what it has to do with tsuki R?

>> No.35928729

>>35928611
>Tsukihime is not about edge
The main character is literally a schizo with a super powered dark side that can see death. How is this not chuuni and edgy?

>> No.35928794

>>35928085
OH NO NOT THE CUNNY

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>>35928729
>super powered dark
???
What kind of dark side?
>How is this not chuuni and edgy?
It's chuuni by Japanese definition of chuuni yes. But pretty much everything outside of salaryman daily life is chuuni for japs. Even Geralt. But how is this related to edgy?

>> No.35928865

>>35928807
>But pretty much everything outside of salaryman daily life is chuuni for japs.
That's not correct but whatever it's not important.

>What kind of dark side?
Did you even read Tsukihime? Large parts of the VN are dedicated to Shiki struggling to control his Nanaya blood urges as well as bad influence via his connection to Roa/SHIKI. Several bad ends where you "give in" involve Shiki raping someone or going on a murder spree. I'm not using edgy as an insult here either so I don't know what your image has to do with anything.

>> No.35928881

>>35928807
>/a/

you have to go back

>> No.35928907

sure smells like /v/ around here. Go back retards.

>> No.35928972

>>35928865
>That's not correct but whatever it's not important.
It's correct. What japs call chuuni would not by called chuuni if it was written in the west.
>Did you even read Tsukihime?
Yes I read Tsukihime. What Shiki experience in Tsukihime is not different from any fiction where MC believe he's serial killer. If anything this is pretty common plot and I'm sure you have seen this in movies or books. The edgy part is wall of text during rape scenes. Those exist for fap of course and "cringe edge". Overall Tsukihime it's not this edgy like darkness of dark. Shiki itself is not edgelord at all. It's like Blood Meridian. So yes you can enjoy Tsukihime without liking edgyshit. I don't believe it's edgy
>>35928881
>shitpost
>adding space after greentext
>again
just stop

>> No.35929013

>>35928972
take your meds, schizo

>> No.35929058

>>35928972
You've either have not read Tsukihime or have an extremely strange definition "edgy". I don't know how reading pages of text of Shiki's mental breakdowns about wanting to kill people can be described as anything other than "edgy". It's very dark in tone overall.

>> No.35929092

>>35929058
>I don't know how reading pages of text of Shiki's mental breakdowns about wanting to kill people can be described as anything other than "edgy". It's very dark in tone overall.
You should read Blood Meridian which has worse things and considered to be literary fiction classic.

>> No.35929099

>>35928907
What does /v/ smell like?

>> No.35929125

>>35929092
doesn't change the fact it's edgy, just like the road

>> No.35929143

>>35929125
edgy is buzzword.

>> No.35929148

>>35929143
buzzword is buzzword

>> No.35929246

>>35929058
I think it's more shit writing instead of edgy. Nasu was unexperienced and tried hard to create atmosphere. He didn't want to write edge for sake of edge like in true edge media. But he didn't know how to properly show madness of Shiki. So that's why we have entire route of Shiki lying in the bed and being schizophrenic. And this route was unreadable.

>> No.35929252

>>35929092
>post WWII literary fiction
>classic
Yeah right. Anyway that sounds edgy too.

>>35929246
>And this route was unreadable.
Horrible taste.

>> No.35929293

>>35929099
old Cheeto dust and mountain dew.

>> No.35929308

>>35929252
yeah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_book

>> No.35929336

>>35929308
can't find blood meridian there

>> No.35929370

>>35929308
American literature is already pretty subpar as it is and then you mention a book that's fairly recent so it's almost certainly not a classic.

>> No.35929400

>>35928972
>What japs call chuuni would not by called chuuni if it was written in the west.
Chuuni is a pretty inherently Japanese thing (particularly the language) so it doesn't really exist in English. One could attempt to imitate it in theory I suppose although I don't know what the results would be.

>> No.35929401

>>35929370
>American literature is already pretty subpar
Is it really subpar or just generation thing? Like every generation calling X subpar and old Y good.

>> No.35929411

>>35929401
who called it a 'classic' anyway?

>> No.35929426

>>35929401
I mean if you think American writers as a whole could even hold a candle to British ones, you're already a lost cause. It doesn't help that a large chunk of the American classics having annoying social themes constantly regurgitated over and over again.

>> No.35929463

>>35929426
Can you be more specific? It's worth nothing to call X bad and Y gud. So if we talk about American literature, that means you should read American literature to form proper opinion. So how much did you read let's see...from 2010-2020? Did you read all thought-provoking literary lit? Or you just throwing the dust for style points?

>> No.35929496

>>35929400
In F/Z interview Nasu, Urobuch and Takeuchi call Kariya chuuni because he want to save Sakura. So for japs desire to help someone not related to you is being chuuni? This is sound like concept from soulless society.

>> No.35929510

>>35929426
Britain is just older and had more time for more good writers to appear

>> No.35929527

>>35929463
>2010-2020
Of course, I don't read modern books are you insane? It's for exactly the same reason you don't listen modern classical composers. All of the great works have already been done in the past. Anyways as for American authors specifically, much of the "great" works are very much time period-dependent and didn't really age well. A lot of their works are extremely reliant on conveying dated social themes that have little impact on future audiences. Furthermore, I've generally found the prose of American authors to be a lot drier and less creative than their British counterparts. That's not to say there aren't any good works. But as a whole, much of it isn't worth remembering. Even some of the supposed "classics", aren't actually very good.

>>35929510
They had more in both quantity and quality for that reason. England has a rich literary history (more than most countries) so future generations could learn, innovate, and write new things.

>> No.35929547

>>35929496
Unless you post the full text of this in Japanese, the point you're trying to convey here is meaningless. I'm merely asserting that the concept of "chuuni" is very inherently tied to the Japanese language itself. When Nasu farts out a bunch of random kanji you've never seen before, that's chuuni. That kind of thing doesn't exist in English.

>> No.35929598

>>35929527
>Of course, I don't read modern books are you insane?
>All of the great works have already been done in the past
This is not different from /v/tards crying about how modern anime is shit without watching any modern anime outside of rec lists. Same for every media. Old gud new bad because just because. Your classics were published in shitty magazines, newspapers and people read them ongoing similar to modern ongoing media. This is how they form opinions. Because of their opinions you now have classics. But you don't do that because old gud new bad.
It's just talking big like a chuunibyou for cool style points.

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>>35929547
From TM ACE vol 7. Not sure if I have scans

>> No.35929650

>>35929598
modern anime is shit

cry me a river

>> No.35929652

>>35929598
Like with any medium, some periods are better and some periods are worse in quality. Nearly everyone considers all of the greatest books to have been written in the distant past by dead authors so it's not even like this is some controversial opinion.

>> No.35929688

>>35929617
>shonen manga-esque ideal 'to save a girl'
>help someone not related to you is being chuuni

damn bro you read with your ass

>> No.35929741

>>35929652
Yeah but it is common for generation to shit talk about current time. The writers who are now classics were shit talked in similar manner. Someone even wrote articles or entire books about how writer x and his works suck cocks. The art is full of this shit.

>> No.35929752

>>35929688
Sakura is not related to Kariya by blood.
He's not saving her as girlfriend
The only way to help her is to save her.

>> No.35929774

>>35929752
>He's not saving her as girlfriend

would be weird to save your underage niece as a girlfriend, don't you think so?

>> No.35929784

>>35929741
>The writers who are now classics were shit talked in similar manner.
Some probably were, but as a whole I'd wager not. Literature has pretty much always been respected and most of the classic writers we talk about today were respected and successful in their day. This isn't even really "old" vs "new". This is more like "hundreds of years of classic canon" vs "today's microcosm of whatever". I mean why would I pick up a modern book when all the innovation and invention of genres has already been done in the past? Whatever scratches your itch, romanticism, realism, psychological, sci-fi, etc., has already been done before. Are modern authors innovating or really doing anything new?

>> No.35929833

>>35898745
Wait was them being recast confirmed??

>> No.35929871

>>35929833
Strictly speaking no, but everyone else has been recast so it would be really strange if they weren't recast too.

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>>35929774
>I mean why would I pick up a modern book when all the innovation and invention of genres has already been done in the past?
Because it's still unique experience? Humans are not same, the time and state of the world are not same. You can instantly recognize sci-fi written in 60s, 80s and sci-fi written in modern times. Otherwise why are we even need 4chan or this thread? You can just read a book and experience communication. Why are we need to communicate? Everything was already discussed. Someone had similar thoughts and already posted them in archives. What's the point in TM if you can just tropes and cliche?

>> No.35929976

>>35929891
>Because it's still unique experience?
It's likely not much more than a rehash of old cliches.
>Otherwise why are we even need 4chan or this thread?
That doesn't even make sense.
>What's the point in TM if you can just tropes and cliche?
Type-Moon were innovative in visual novels. That's why we've tirelessly discussed the same stories for decades.

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>>35929976
Everything about TM was already discussed in the past. Just open archives and read same discussion.
>Type-Moon were innovative in visual novels
Tsukihime is just Kizuato ripofff with vampires and KnK powers. All TM concepts are same tropes from all other fiction. Nasuverse is just poor's man oWoD. TM didn't invent chuunige or segi no mikata, tsundere, gapmoe. Tsukihime Remake is insult to life and ultimate recycling.

>> No.35930033

>>35929246
>And this route was unreadable
filtered

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>>35930022
FSN is Autumn Visits(1997) ripoff
>In a poor, downtrodden Russia, a vector of future development of the world is being decided. Six Forces send their champions—Envoys, copies of real people, typical of their kind; they are almost the same as their prototypes. An Envoy can do only that what prototype can, but unlike them, envoys believe in their own forces, and thus can change the world. The Envoys have a main directive—to survive. The last surviving Envoy is deemed to be the most fit for the world, and guides it in the future.

Urban fantasy wasn't invented by Nasu. It was done in the past. Just read better old material.

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>> No.35930163

>>35930022
>Tsukihime is just Kizuato ripoff except for the parts that make it completely different.
Nice meme. Type-Moon was objectively innovative in the genre. Nothing will change that.

>> No.35930243

>>35930163
Truth is not meme. What did TM innovate? And what are they innovating with Tsukihime Remake? Just read Greeks and Masadaverse. Masadaverse had fancy fights before Mahoyo.

>> No.35930259

>>35930243
Reading plot summaries is not "truth". There were no visual novels that existed like Fate/Stay Night before it came out.

>> No.35930347

>>35930259
>Reading plot summaries is not "truth"
It is truth. Kizuato has too much similarities. Sorry but Fate/Stay Night didn't invent chuunige or skip button. I don't know why you're so chuunibyou. And what are they innovating with Tsukihime Remake? Why are you ignoring this? You're supposed to read only innovative works of art after all. Not some modern shit for plebs

>> No.35930402

>>35930347
>Kizuato
There are no similarities beyond "characters that have no human blood".
>Fate/Stay Night
No visual novel like it existed before. You can't even name one.
>Tsukihime Remake
Nobody knows what this will be like. It's not even out.

>> No.35930406

>>35930347
man you sound like a prick. Not the other anon that you're talking to, but can you kindly fuck off? I hate people like you who think they're smarter than they actually are.

>> No.35930411

>>35930402
non human blood*

>> No.35930497

>>35930402
>There are no similarities beyond "characters that have no human blood".
Far Side setting
Akiha = Chizuru
Nightmares
Oni blood
Rape
Denying influence is dumb. Especially because of Leaf.
>>35930406
>I hate people like you who think they're smarter than they actually are.
Same. That's why you should fuck off, smart guy.

>> No.35930573

>>35930497
Oh shit there are nightmares. It's over. Nasu = hack confirmed.

>> No.35930615

man, just got recommended this video and it's still so good after so long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83nPn0IThJU&ab_channel=NicoTubeAnime007

>> No.35930625

>>35930573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfaaArgMPyI&list=PLo4CakUmjVOc_8Zrkhee2tF5XFjz47sqt&index=10

Don't see issue. Why it is okay to get inspiration from Kusarihime but not okay from Kizuato? Anons always deny Kizuato but not Kusarihime because Nasu confirmed it. Or NGE? He's hack indeed. Inspiration is for fags.

>> No.35930674

>>35930625
every artist is inspired by something and Nasu admits his influences like any other writer/artist. What a stupid thing to say. Of course Nasu's stories aren't original. He still made stories that were popular and that people loved despite his obvious influences.

>> No.35930680

>>35930674
>every artist is inspired by something
That's why you should read Greeks instead of some hacks. Real masters.

>> No.35930682

>>35930625
It's totally possible he never played/read Kizuato. Anyways aside from a handful of select lines this is nothing like the dreams in Tsukihime. This has at least 100x the horror feel to it.

>> No.35930728

>>35930682
As I remember he was big ADV fan and Kizuato was popular according to jp boomer blog. Seems like something he want to play. He read Shiki novel too. That one about workers party

>> No.35930742

>>35930728
>As I remember he was big ADV fan
I thought that was Takeuchi. I don't think Nasu actually had played too many games at that time. I remember Takeuchi got Nasu into Kanon or something at one point.

>> No.35930908

>>35930742
he played VN's on consoles like the one that he got his inspiration for Shiki's outfit. That's one of the reasons why he wanted TsukiR on consoles.

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>>35930120
Nasu's finest contribution.

>> No.35931145

https://twitter.com/MB_LUMINA/status/1422029631834624000

>> No.35931179

New Akiha Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJpHiPqt1U&ab_channel=%E3%80%90%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%8F%E3%80%91TYPE-MOONGAMES

>> No.35931200

>>35931145
>>35931179
Fuck yes, they kept Akiha's forward kick with her arms crossed move. I love that one.

>> No.35931256

>>35931200
yeah, glad they did. Man, Kohaku's yell sounds pretty annoying. It sounds like she got shot. Not a fun yell from being hurt.

>> No.35931847

>>35930908
>like the one that he got his inspiration for Shiki's outfit
?

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>>35931847
thought it was a game, but it's an anime/manga. Here's the quote from TM 13:

Nasu: Up until he made Fate/stay Night's Shirou, I told Takeuchi to design our protagonists as generic as possible. I'd tell him awesome guys doing awesome things is a given, but when someone not that different from us fights, that's what makes him a story's protagonist. This might have been the core of the Fate/ series. That's a point I'm very particular about, but even so, I decided that TsukiR's Shiki should be more good-looking. I mean, what other chance will I get to write a Babel II-inspired protagonist, complete with the gakuran uniform + black hair look? That's my personal reward for all the work...

>> No.35932049

>>35931945
I thought that might be what you were thinking of. The original interview doesn't use anything as specific as 'inspired' by the way. I don't think Nasu was saying Shiki's appearance was influenced by Babel 2, it was just an example of a generic black hair/gakuran protag.

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>> No.35932312

>>35932049
oh my bad, I just thought that's what he said as I read the interview a while ago.

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The next Famitsu issue on the 5th of August will have FGO info and more importantly Tsukihime and Melty info. Wouldn't expect too much from the later as the cover is about FGO, but hopefully a little nugget of info from Nasu's interview would be nice.

>> No.35932340

>>35932334
I sleep.

>> No.35932354

>>35932340
same, don't give a shit about FGO, but any new news of tsuki and melty would be nice.

>> No.35932358

>>35932334
Doubt it’ll have anything new, they already announced the new TM Times volume.

>> No.35932395

>>35932358
yeah, that's true. I'll keep my expectations low. We should be getting a new melty TM times after two weeks since all the character trailers will be out by then. A new character should debut for melty after the 16th.

>> No.35932847

>>35928807
>people acting in retarded ways is fine because theyre not robots
People, even the craziest schizos out there, operate by an internal logic, the things they do make sense TO THEM. This internal logic is informed by their established traits and motivations.

When this external logic is contradicted for an emotional payoff/drama, it becomes forced drama and is indicative of terrible writing.

>> No.35933523

>>35930022
>Nasuverse is just poor's man oWoD
I disagree, WoD is fucking shit, while Nasu's works are actually good, well, some of them are, to an extent.

>> No.35934203

>>35932334
so we are entering the era where tsukihime/melty will be constantly shoved next to fgo? honestly the tsukihime remake feels less like a product for the older fans, but rather something that has been completely remade in order to potentially target the fgo playerbase. the day where arcueid/ciel will be recognized first and foremost as fgo characters and ritsuka's waifu is near.

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>>35928134
I think Fate/Extra is the best evidence that there might still be implied fucking in TsukiRe.
Remember how Rin (what a whore) has to fuck Hakuno's Servant and even gets a CG in a game that only has like 5 in total?
Then you have CCC with Kiara shoving a planet up her cunt.

And FGO is kinda touching the topic of sex every now and again.
Like, I remember someone asking Chiyome what she would do if the Master asked her to come to bed with him.

>> No.35934414

>>35925700
Akiha is the fucking best.
Bitch fucking lives for Shiki. They share a lifespan ffs.
I kinda hate how he's obviously content with his impending death, despite how much Akiha sacrificed for him.
Why the fuck are her endings so sad?
Well, at least until Kagetsu Tohya ruined one.

>> No.35934429

>>35934384
I've never played Extra, does Rin really fuck a servant in it?

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>>35934414
If they were going to do a sad ending they should've committed to it instead of backtracking. It kinda made fun of Shiki's sacrifice imho

>> No.35934485

>>35934429
Yeah.
Li Shuwen (or some other Servant, I forget) wounds Hakuno's servant pretty badly.
They need a bunch of Mana, but Hakuno can't help. So instead, Rin offers to help with a Mana transfer.
You can even peek on them when they go to the infirmary room to do the deed.
The Sakura AI is even standing outside and giggling (foreshadowing for BB maybe?).

It's a pretty shit sequence. The Remake will apparently make it more personal with Hakuno and their Servant instead of having Rin cuck them.

>> No.35934634

>>35934485
Wait, so, Redman can fuck Rin in Extra?

Jesus Christ.

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>>35934203
Hence why I intend to remake the original VN with the Remake's assets.

>> No.35934659

>>35934634
Wanna see it?
https://youtu.be/s7W-tOiZgBM?t=319

>> No.35934753

>>35934650
autism

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>>35934753
Plenty of it, but a worthy endeavor.

>> No.35934882

>>35934659
What the fuck

>> No.35934910

>>35934485
current nasu will never write something similar, or anything hinting a sex scene. he's too much of a pussy for that. the closest you'll get is extella or fgo but neither are written by him i believe, so at this point you have higher chance to see ritsuka have "implied" sex scenes with the tsuki heroines once they drop in fgo than seeing anything of the sort the remake. we'll probably see a handshake instead, or at best a kiss.

>> No.35934970

>>35934659
What in the cuck shit lmao

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>> No.35935361

>>35934414
>>35934473
The true ending always had a ton of wiggle room for Shiki to come back. I mean he's not even dead but presumably comatose in a hospital somewhere teetering on the edge of life and death.

>> No.35935510

>>35934910
He does write for FGO, but it depends which events. Some events are very suggestive.
Extella was partially him and the rest Sakurai. Again, it depends what he wrote.

>> No.35935525

>>35935361
I mean, yeah, but why wouldn't Akiha or Kohaku know about it?
That's what pisses me off. Like it's implied Ciel just swooped in, grabbed his ass and put him there.

>> No.35935659

>>35935525
>Like it's implied Ciel just swooped in, grabbed his ass and put him there.
Well yeah that's probably what happened. They could have been more explicit about it. I agree that it's kind of strange it's never actually said straight up.

>> No.35936045

>>35934203
No you dumbass. It’s Famitsu so of course they’d report on those two games that are coming out soon.

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>> No.35936173

>>35934203
Must be why almost all footage of the remake are 1:1 copypasted scenes from the original.

>> No.35936207

>>35934650
You should honestly find someone to redraw Arc to her original design, but other than that, good luck Anon.

>> No.35936241

>>35936173
That's not true though. There's a lot of new stuff too.

>> No.35936284

>>35934659
What the hell

>> No.35936311

>>35936045
the first trailer we've seen in years literally come from a fgo stream, lmao. they also completely changed the voice actors with a younger generation, including voice actors that worked in fgo as well. they are clearly trying to appeal to a younger generation, potentially fgo fans. even in the type-moon times regarding tsuki/melty they managed to shove f/go reference in the background ffs. not to mention nasu's comments regarding tsuki/fgo, plus him wanting a collab with that gacha garbage.

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>>35936207
>find someone to redraw Arc

imagine...

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/62992216

>> No.35936512

I thought doomkeks died out or went to hibernation until the actual release at least.
>>35936472
Boring, I'd just reread the original then.

>> No.35936527

>>35936512
didn't ask

>> No.35936775

>>35936311
>fgo stream
I hope you realise it was shown on TV. Would you rather have them castrate their marketing than be at all affiliated with FGO?
>younger generation
You mean those who didn't play the original game when it was on sale, so people not around 40? Kids still can't buy the remake.
>nasu's comments regarding tsuki/fgo
Tired of this shit. Read the interview.

>> No.35936862

>>35934659
If it makes it any better not really, apparently Nasu wasn't the one who pushed for it but the game director. Also this isn't Rin but rather her grand-niece or whatever. At least the guy realized his mistake and will be removing it in the remake. Because wtf, way to cuck your game's main protagonist

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last for liz

>> No.35937945

>>35936775
found another fgo fanatic that will whale like crazy once arcueid and ciel drop in the gacha garbage. must be sad to eat every single garbage that is being thrown at you.

>> No.35937980

>>35937945
Are you okay, schizo? Where in my post does it say I play FGO?

>> No.35938108

>>35936472
If this guy is willing to take commissions, I'd honestly pay him.
I'll wait for the remake to come out and see what's up first.

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