Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

There has been a recent shift in otaku culture. Anime boards are being filled with mobage art, "otakus" support V-tubers and play gacha instead of watching anime or reading visual novels. Boorus are being flooded by gacha art and even artists who've supported the otaku industry for years slowly but surely jump onto the bandwagon as well.

The early 2000's were dominated by small studios of passionate otaku just like us, lead by Type-Moon, key and 07th Expansion. It was a time of wonder and amazement where good visual novels and anime were born almost monthly.
But look at us now: Nasu abandoned his visual novel fans and sided with the gacha folks, key's latest novel barely reached 1.5 thousand entries on pixiv and 07th Expansion has been almost dead and forgotten until last year.
What happened to those times when we used to watch Suzumiya Haruhi no Yūutsu, laugh about silly code geass images on 4chan and just were simple otaku?

I propose that, in order to reclaim those times, we ban every gacha and V-tuber from /jp/ and focus our minds on the true soul of otaku culture:
Visual Novels, anime and touhou!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
>we ban every gacha and V-tuber from /jp/
Who is "we"? All you accomplish by telling vtuber posters to go away is a ban from a mod that protects them.

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>>37383453
>Who is "we"?
All otaku who feel oppressed by the current state of affairs and do not like the direction into which our niche is heading right now.
I refuse to believe that an otaku mod would ban me for speaking up against v-tubers.

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>>37383517
>All otaku who feel oppressed by the current state of affairs and do not like the direction into which our niche is heading right now.
Too late for that. Gatekeeping only works if there's a slow trickle of new people, not open floodgates. Old school otaku are the minority now.
>I refuse to believe that an otaku mod would ban me for speaking up against v-tubers.
Under what rock have you been living?

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its just whats popular now faggot, haruhi, rozen maiden, and type moon was cancer as well.

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>>37383453
That is completely false, I have told them to fuck off on the dog thread, I haven't been banned in months, hell maybe a year by now. Could be luck, but I am not sure.

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>>37383654
>>37383657
>Old school otaku are the minority now
>its just whats popular now faggot
Those are not otaku, they should have a term on their own. Sharing a few hobbies with us does not make them part of our community.
You might just as well call every persona fan an otaku for liking japanese games, even if they couldn't name more than three japanese cities of the top of their head and resented unironic "weebs".

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>>37383400
Weirdly enough I agree with most of your points except the Gacha part.
While it's true that most (almost all of them) are pay to win trash for people that don't even have time to play vidya, they have merged quite well with Otaku Culture (but sadly also with ironic weeb culture since they see them as character galleries). However I believe that there is no real reason to allow them on this board because they already have /vmg/ and /vg/ to discuss the games, not 1 but 2 boards. I am so sorry KanColle fags. No hard feelings.

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>>37383731
touhou is also a game

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>>37383517
>otaku mod
That's an oxymoron.

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>>37383778
There was at least one untill new years. Probably died of old age, and the one that loves vtubers took his place.

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>>37383775
Good point, but this was originally le touhou containment board, so no reason to kick touhou out, specially when it has no other place for discussion or funposting besides /vg/, the mods in /v/ tend to almost insta-ban every touhou poster and the anons there also dont really like touhou that much.

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>>37383731
It's mostly sad that artists abandon their old circles for gacha money by simply following what's popular, revealing that they never truly cared about these old franchises in the process.

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>>37383811
There are regular touhou threads on /v/, pokemon threads arent banned either despite having their own board. Touhou hasnt needed to be contained for a long time now.

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>>37383857
My 2hu threads on /v/ still get deleted regularly, I think you just need to be lucky there.

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>>37383943
2hu /v/ threads are shit

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>>37383811
there is /bant/ but they are weird folk

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Waiting warmly...

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>>37383997
where does the "g" come from?
wouldn't /vn/ be better?

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>>37383997
It would probably have been a stupid slow board. Heck /jp/ was a nice easy speed before holofags took a massive diarrhea shit on the board and we became faster than /v/ and /pol/ for a bit.

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>>37383857
Huh, really? I am sorry but I dont go out of /jp/ very often, even more now that there has been a massive influx of newfags recently (2 months or so ago, board quality dropped massively in /g/ for example, which was already damn bad).
I predicted this happening back in >>36223509 , /jp/ has also taken a lot of damage from the influx, but it isn't as bad as other boards, for now I will remain here until shit gets so bad I end up quitting 4chan completely, when that happens I might make my own IB, but things will never be the same.
The few times I have visited /v/ people were very hostile towards touhou threads and gacha threads. This behaviour towards touhou might have changed thanks to the secondaries who just found out about it thanks to fumos or something. Also due to the Reimu winning queen of /v/ last year.

>>37383973
/bant/ has somehow gotten better, still not "decent" per say.

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>>37384019
Doujin games I assume

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>>37383400
cope

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>>37384023
Perhaps if it was strictly about doujinsoft and VNs. It would probably have a decent enough speed if it allowed other doujin works as well.

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>>37383400
Unfortunately, things change. We change, too. What you have to realize is that a lot of the people posting and enjoying this new school stuff were also the ones enjoying the old school stuff. I know a few ancientfags who were around when otaku culture was young in the west, and they've moved on to gacha and vtubers and the like. So goes the passage of time.

>>37383729
I get what you're saying, but many old school otaku were kids or teenagers back in the day, and now they may not have as much time as they did for their hobbies. Unfortunately, most people cannot live the easy NEET life.

>>37383973
>>37384039
/bant/ is currently under siege from /qa/ refugees who have taken it as their new home on 4ch, despite having their own altchan and whatever else. /bant/ has declined over the years, but barring these recent events, it's an alright board.

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>>37383400
and in the 70s otaku clubs were majoritary made of train, planes and pasokon otakus. what is considered "otaku culture" expands with time. And I could argue that how the anime industry have been working is what leading to it's decline in popularity over the last 15 years, such as appeasing to international streaming and adoption of "mechanical" means to improve production at the cost of quality. Naturally games and other subcultures are taking it's place

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>>37383400
>tfw was born during the prime of anime and mango (2003) and never got to experience true otaku culture
feels batman

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I don't really give a shit what is popular nowadays in otaku circles all I know is that I don't want to interact with it and will never interact with it. Just because you have the same people making dogshit in the same places they used to make amazing stuff doesn't mean I'll consume your dogshit.
Either make a board about all the stuff /jp/ used to be about or kick the other stuff out of here
If we can have ten different /v/ spinoffs then we can have a few japanese culture boards on a japanese culture site.

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>>37383731
Why do people always lump in KanColle with gatcha and mobile games?

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>>37384929
Because it is a gacha.

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>>37384982
How so?

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>>37384278
the /qa/ thing started a golden age for /bant/ though

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>>37384654
Bait.

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>>37385002
... and a mobile game.

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>>37383400
The easiest solution is to move out of online circles and imageboards and to move in with old fashioned anime club people who meet once a month at their local comic book shop. If you wanna discuss old media, you gotta do it the old-fashioned way.

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>>37385011
KanColle is a browser based game

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>>37384023
I don't care how slow it is
I just want to get to a thread about this cool game I found on DLsite without having to sift through five different video game boards
>>37385012
nice joke

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>>37385078
Oh, I was sure it'd be a mobage.

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>>37385173
You can make a thread about it, but no one else is going to play it unless you upload it and translate it, and you're still going to have to carry the conversation.

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>>37383964
>2hu /v/ threads are shit
Threads here aren't all that good here anymore either.
>>37351297

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>>37386914
stealth /pol/ import threads are not /jp/ threads.

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>>37383400
>I propose that, in order to reclaim those times, we ban every gacha and V-tuber from /jp/
Will never happen as long as mods and janitors are part of the problem as well. When you have a janitor/mod deleting hollive threads during the cancer's streaming hours to make way to a new one while other shit across the board is never touched by them, then, declaring something as silly as "banning" virtual shit is laughable. Besides, you don't need to ban that shit immediately, too drastic. Just move their containment thread with most IPs to their respective containment board and only the most autistic remnants of it will stay here flooding the board with that shit. Let moderation deal with the butthurt leftover and then we can talk about doing anything for the board. You can bet your asshole that this thread will get deleted sooner rather than later while every other forced shit from the typical cancerous vtumors will stay up.

>>37383997
Funny how years ago everyone in /a/ was too adamant in no diving the board further but now we have a gorillion /v/ centric boards, with even a board for generals. Even /asp/ got axed and the wrestling content rebranded as /pw/ during these years but containing virtualcancer threads in their own board is a no-no for newfag mods. Maybe the pony global rule should be forgotten as well.

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>>37383654
I was going to ask what happened at the end of last year but then I remember what it was. The amount of posting during that period was longer than I thought.

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You know, taking a look at every board in the entire site (something that I haven't done in years) revealed to me that we're truly living in 2021. RIP.

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>>37383400
Nitroplus >>>>> Type moon Key and 07th
You kids only ever saw vn as a fad

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>>37389116
They made fate/zero and that's about it.
The SciAdv series is more of their own thing and you'd be insane to even compare Chaos;Child to fate/stay night, Clannad or Umineko.

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>>37388497
If you truly looked at every board on the site, you'd realize there's lots of good ones.

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gacha are not otaku culture? Why?

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>>37389203
Demonbane destroys Fsn

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>>37388497
This place's time has passed. Soon the last signs of what this place used to be will be washed away, and then all that's left will be the niche boards where the retarded zoomers and esl shitters will never go. And in a way that makes me kind of happy.

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>>37388057
>Just move their containment thread with most IPs to their respective containment board
They have /vt/, so why isn't that happening already? What compels someone to stay refugee in a foreign board when they have a motherboard of their own?

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>>37389578
Shirou can kill Demonbane.

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4chan has been shit since 2008 what else is new.

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I hope /v/ is shut down like /qa/.

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>>37391525
Because the moderation does not fucking care, and this is a site-wide issue. It's reached the point at which I don't think it would be wrong to assume there's vitriol towards the userbase, and some of the IRC screenshots I've seen back that up to some extent. You're not going to achieve gatekeeping when the ones "holding the keys" don't give a shit about their task. Isolated example, but the VN thread has been plagued by shitposters bringing in Twitter and Discord drama, yet action is only taking sparingly at best. Really though, not much will change until enough people get mad enough to trigger another exodus to some of the already existing imageboard with reasonable populations. I'm just here to bitch about the state of the aforementioned thread, personally. The fact that there's a dearth of people here who actually know Japanese doesn't help either, to be honest.
>>37385012 seems to have the right of it, but thirdies don't have that luxury.
The larger issue with otaku culture majorly seems to be connected with profit. Sakurai hasn't touched Valthoom, Masada is still trying to revive Pantheon, and that's not mentioning Jin, Meteo etc and all the other writers who left the industry. VNs are expensive to produce and just aren't as addictive as mobashit.
>>37389203
But Kikokugai...and Muramasa...and Demonbane and Phantom and Saya...

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>>37391525
>What compels someone to stay refugee in a foreign board when they have a motherboard of their own?
Who really knows. These are the same people that also complained about an orange during their first week of their brand new board.

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>>37391525
>What compels someone to stay refugee in a foreign board when they have a motherboard of their own?
Because they delude themselves into thinking that they are somehow better than the posters on /vt/

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>>37385078
Pretty sure there was also a way to play it on mobile, even though that is not the main way.
Either way KanColle was what birthed Girls'Frontline (Doll's Frontline) and Azur Lane, and after the success of both came the rest of gacha mobile games.

[Anonymous No.]

Call me paranoid but I suspect there is behind the scenes shilling that some staff are in on. 4chan has always had a hard time making money, and there are plenty of examples of ecelebs being “secret influencers” who dont disclose that they’re being paid to endorse something.

It’s not just simps discussing vtuber bullshit, there’s obviously ad agencies working to promote their clients. It’s legitimately big business for the big ones, this kind of shit is going to happen.

I really do believe that like half of vtuber discussion is just stealth ads. To me that’s a big part of the problem.

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>>37393093
That's not even being paranoid, shit like that happens on every big platform so why not 4ch too?
It doesn't have to be some secret deal with the moderation though since stealth ads are especially easy to do on anonymous platforms.
I think it's safe to say that half of /v/'s userbase for example are corporate agents.

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"YOU GOTTA FOLLOW WHAT'S NEW HIP AND COOL BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST WATCH STREAMERS BROOOOOOOOOOOO! I KNOW YOU DON'T CARE, BUT HERE'S -strawman- BY THE WAY, LOOK AT THIS FOTM BRO!!!!!!"
- New "Otaku"

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>>37391525
didn't the exact same thing happen when the jay got created

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Someone needs to make bitchchan so you guys who spend all your time bitching about things you don't like have somewhere to go and cry like bitches.

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>>37384278
/qa/ refugee here who comes to /jp/ for the 2hu gameplay thread. There is a lot of people i see sitewide deriding the former board without understanding what made it happen or what the appeal was. Modern /qa/ happned and was unusable for its original purpose of meta threads because this site lacks a low moderation random topic blue board where people can funpost without half the catalogue being porn in addition to the admins not reading those in the first place. The melting pot of posters that'd gather as threads got moved in with a high user turnover in addition to very little getting deleted created this bizzare silly serious atmosphere, mutating board culture and vocabulary which cannot be described unless you were there for some time yourself lurking. The quality varied wildly but got very bad in the last few months due to increasingly unnatural focused spam topped off by some Higurashi poster accidentaly (?) triggering a god damn race war which sent the entire place into a state of chaos so harsh that it become unsalvagable.
/bant/ is similarly dysfunctional considering its supposed to be /pol/ and /int/s trash playground. The "siege" showed me there's a lot of crossposters but i still dont wanna be there because the neutered qa with a touhou flair doesnt make up for the fact that its not a blue board. Though visible flags leading to leebaiter extermination is funny since they were consistently the least interesting group there.
As for the altchan, its an inorganic circlejerk where the owner datamines you. Qa was often called the soijak board but the strange, strange mutations that that meme underwent cannot work if its not counterculture to some extent. Janny and jp natives this is not supposed to be a soijak its just a skeleton.

>>37388057
>but now we have a gorillion /v/ centric boards
Well vst is probably the best one on the whole site so im fine with that, go look at the catalogue there and ask yourself if it would be possible to have any of those threads where people try to go into detail and where obscure things can be discussed last for more than 20 minutes on v when some spammer makes the 5th hourly smash porn dump politics topic.
>Maybe the pony global rule should be forgotten as well.
It has gotten more lax since their board has a banner now unless im severely retarded and never noticed it before. Though that's not something that should be joked about since the hardened /mlp/ posters who still remain often have this weirdly bitter butthurt attitude even though they try to pose as epic trolls.

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>>37393093
It's worse.

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The one thing that gets me is the rise of the Korean and Chinese manga. Mangua manwha. Who the fuck cares.

It's fucking garbage. Outside of maybe 1 or 2 series its all trash. Who the fuck reads this shit

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>>37393093
>>37393167
I'm 100% sure most of Brave threads on /g/ are paid shills and they just make me want to stay the fuck away from that browser.

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It still grosses me out that there are people visiting this board without knowing any Japanese

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>>37393773
Big words from someone who can't speak Sumerian.

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>>37393769
don't forget that the /g/ meido is an iToddler

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>>37393769
wut?

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>>37393279
This is just how otaku culture works, man. Every generation has its new thing, and most people move to the newer stuff. If you browse places like 2ch and futaba everyone's talking about mobage and vtubers. It sounds like you guys just want this place to be a time capsule for what was popular 10-15 years ago.

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>>37393712
>vst
disagree. It's the same "games only you played", "why RTS are shit", and /v/tard bait threads for most topics. Occasionally there are good ones but that board already needs a filter. I'm just thankful I don't have to hang out in the strategy games thread/civ4xg with that spider manga posting, attention whoring French faggot anymore otherwise I wouldn't bother going to the board.

>>37393759
Is it popular or is it the hot thing with scanslators. I have no idea. I understand gatcha games because Korea has always been the king of MMORPGs and China the king of stealing money from internet gamers, but it feels like there are just a bunch of Chinese to English scanslators shilling their boring shit that's worse than early 2000s American anime wannabe shows. It's literally all light novel inspired isekai trash and Chinese superhero shit with the occasional pure fanservice shit sprinkled in.

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>>37393769
Eyup. heard of "Brave-tan"? Check website and Pixiv account.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit that a lot of the posters are just dudes memeing but there definitively are a lot of shills. Brave-tan officially has frog memes on her Pixiv for some reason, and while not an ""official"" mascot, she has asked questions with her account on a Brave ask me anything and the Brave staff didn't seem to care too much.
>>37393878
Imagine getting a web browser ads in 4c, no joke this is extremely common in /g/ and sort of became a meme on its own. Even more after one dude fucked up CTRL+V and made a post just saying "v" instead of the usual script the shills post.

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So I wandered into /v/ the other day for an unknown reason and is this really what Ren'Py is used for nowadays?
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/578658818
To make shitty western porn slideshows instead of wap OELVNs? Otaku culture decline is real.

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>>37394021
Yes, but it still fulfils a good niche because we really had nowhere to go for it before other than trying to fish in /v/, and fuck that. If something was released somewhere around the 2000s you could attempt to make a thread on /vr/ and then be at the mercy of the janny (and the janny wannabees) which is never a good thing. /vrpg/, though, feels much more like a shithole. If this site exists in 50 years im certain that that board will still have the same east vs west what is an rpg threads over and over and over and over again. Also itll be much harder for /vst/ to degenerate into shitty waifu imagedumps like so much of this site unless something really strange happens since its in general an autistic gameplay heavy genre. Things are looking more grim for the others.
Pretty hilarious how much of a ghetto /vg/ is, everyone who can flee from it does so as quickly as possible and doesnt want to go back. Was much in the same boat back at /indie/ with my favorite thing having to bump it constantly before the retarded moderation added more pages so it wasnt impossible to go without posts for 20 minutes and not get kicked off page 10.

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>>37383657
except for typemoon maybe, these things were engineered to make you lose your money

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>>37394829
were not*

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>>37393712
I've browsed /qa/ on and off since its inception. I know what it was, and while I'd much prefer to have it back how it used to be when it was invisible, I undersrand that it did create something "unique," I guess. I wouldn't have a problem with soiposting and whatever other autism if it stayed there, but it spreads like a disease. Soijaks, regular jaks, and frogs are the only things I actually report if they're on other boards. I really, really, really just want original /qa/ back. It was like /jp/, but invisible. And all my friends were there.
There are some altchans like k***u I browse, and they do an alright job of recreating original /qa/, but they're very slow and still not the same.

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amazing that the jannies have not deleted this thread yet

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>>37395364
I buy the theory that mods/owners didn't want there to be a board for meta discussions anymore but thought they couldn't remove it without a stated good reason, so they allowed it to turn into shitpost central to make it way worse for that purpose, and the last incident was just an excuse they needed to nuke it.
>>37395414
Weird indeed.

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>>37395364
Despite being slower than /jp/, my thread still got more replies there than any of the other similar threads I have made here ever got.

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>>37395414
Just wait until it either hits ~100 posts or speeds up. Our dear meidos will remember their duties then and only then.

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>>37395589
There was no need for a meta board since they don't read the threads, they only look at the feedback form really.

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>>37395827
>they only look at the feedback form really
That's rich.

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>>37395859
Believe what you want.

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>>37395827
And by "look" you mean they only look at how much feedback they have received without actually reading it, much less taking it into consideration?

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>>37395364
KISSU KISSU KISSU KISSU KISSU KISSU KISSU

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>>37383453
>Who is "we"?
Me and my imaginary otaku friends

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>>37395364
Been on this site for i think three or four years, not particularly tied to any board and clearly not an oldfig thus have no idea what pre modern 4chan let alone qa was like. Know there was some sort of war between the anime posters, frogs and soijaks where a lot of dirty tactics were used but thats it. It makes sense people dont want to see a full on raging soiduel and that soiquoting shits a thread up but i dont understand whats wrong with some of the more esoteric, bizzare or just silly edits now that their home is no more. Nothing will really happen. Its gone and done. Maybe someone will reminiscine.
Real question is could any of it be brought back though. Either the old hidden qa or the modern random one. I think neither of us will or would ever get what we want partially because of the admins really just putting the bare minimum amount of effort and partially because simply
>it just isnt the same
and it never will be.

>>37395827
What reality? They cant even be bothered to update the format support on the webm boards or make it so a thread doesnt reach the file limit at 150 whilst the posting one is like 300 or 500.

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>>37394725
>Also itll be much harder for /vst/ to degenerate into shitty waifu imagedumps like so much of this site unless something really strange happens since its in general an autistic gameplay heavy genre.
Tactics games are strategy games. Fire Emblem, FFT, SRW, and someone will eventually try to talk about those mobile games that have like tower defense or something vaguely strategic instead of auto-rpg or card games. That and unit dump threads are basically the same thing.

What's wrong with /vm/ btw?

>Pretty hilarious how much of a ghetto /vg/ is, everyone who can flee from it does so as quickly as possible and doesnt want to go back.
It's so strange, when it was made half of /jp/'s topics went flying off to it, but they all mutated into some weird troglodytes and then came crawling back thread by thread to shit up /jp/ but still won't give up their general no matter how trash it is.

>with my favorite thing having to bump it constantly before the retarded moderation added more pages so it wasnt impossible to go without posts for 20 minutes and not get kicked off page 10.
I don't understand this. Some threads would be dead for hours and the residents couldn't just make a new one that was active when it was and then died for 5 or so hours a day. It just HAS to be up 24/7.

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>>37395702
Post a thread you made here.

>>37395589
Why'd they leave the happenings thread? Were tehy admitting it was a good thread despite no happenings? Are they encouraging honeypot threads? I really wish there was a thread on /jp/ that mods would read and people would post bullshit that mods overlooked and hadn't deleted yet. You'd at least be able to explain to them why it's not a legitimate thread just because it has a Touhou in the OP.

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>>37397574
>Were tehy admitting it was a good thread despite no happenings? Are they encouraging honeypot threads?
I don't know, plausible deniability? I can't pass that theory as truth because I don't really have proof, maybe they really do have plans to make /qa/ good again, or they themselves just don't know what they're doing.

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>>37397449
True enough but thus far the ones that do come are mostly well behaved since the more spammy posters have both vrpg (due to it being more eastern game friendly than vst) and vg (due to criclejerk) to be in. This might ward off the latter group too. If there's someone im worried could cause damage if they entrench its those shills from /v/ with a massive victim complex and extreme fanaticism to their pet devs because they sometimes flex about how much faster their threads are and have some headcannon about how the admins made the board for them. You know the ones. But i could just dislike them for no real good reason.
>/vm/
Forgot it existed since ive never really used it yet, though it does seem to be a nice place to get some anons gathered. Nicer than the other options at least.
As for vg i think its the most mentally ill place on the site after your usual 4 correct guesses everyone makes that turns people mad because its a very nice cozy enviorment for dumb banal drama, namefag blogposting, out of site interference due to permanence and /e/ dumping to soar thread speed up. There are a dozen generals that are just fanart and talking which character you wanna fuck since there's zero real game or anything else to talk about. Day after day, hour after hour.

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>>37397635
>they themselves just don't know what they're doing.
Probably this. I'm sure the pro-vtuber mods are at war with the ones who are apathetic about them and meanwhile there's some /v/tard mod who really wanted /vm/ and posts those stickies about game nights. They really need a leader other than the fed monitoring the site to whip them into order, but I'm sure not a single person cares about 4chan as a whole. Hell even if I owned it, I'd delete almost all the boards and make 2D/b/, 3D/b/, /jp/(Otaku Culture, not Japanese culture), /wap/(about actual Japan), /i/, /ic/ , /i3/(basically 3 but not limited to SFW and allowed to talk about 3D in movies, games, how to make MMDs, 3D porn game modding, etc), /c/, /e/, /h/, /g/(ay, both yaoi and yuri as well as futa go there.), /m/(edia where webm, gif, mp4, flv, swf go) , /t/(ext and text art), /n/(ormalfaggots where all off topic, non nerd shit goes), and /trash/(where threads can only be moved to and the only place you can post or see when banned.) video game/anime/manga/comic fags can talk about relevant stuff in relevant boards or fuck off to some other site to nostalgia about dead franchises. /gd/ and /po/ would probably exist in some capacity. Probably in /ic/ and /wap/ respectively.

Basically 4chan and its mods lack vision and direction.

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>>37397869
>As for vg i think its the most mentally ill place on the site after your usual 4 correct guesses
Strangely enough those 4 guesses for me are /x/, /cgl/, /u/, and /jp/. The usual suspects are just annoying because of the ones who leave it to try to ruin other boards. Some of the users of the boards I listed are legit insane like /vg/ users.

[Anonymous No.]

Be honest anon: how much OC have you made in the past 5 years?

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>>37394843
Please tell me you're fucking joking. EVERYTHING about otaku culture is engineered to make you lose money. Or do you think everyone is handing out free shit at Comiket?

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>>37401188
Being sold for a given price is normal for EVERY medium anon, stuff like Deltarune being free is not the norm.
That's not the same as "being engineered to lose your money" though, it's common sense that artists need an income to survive as well.
Besides, there's tons of art, games and fanfiction made by otaku for otaku for free.

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>>37397928
That's a good point, not everything that is good for one board is good for another and most people favor some boards over others. It just makes me less hopeful something can be done.

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>>37395414
Very strange since they're trigger happy with anything related to the current state of affairs.

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>>37383400
I personally only visit /jp/ for the 07th expansion general and have no idea about 'board culture'. What are v-tubers and why are they so bad? Is the state of affairs really that grave?
I've noticed an influx of crossies and shitposters lately but thought that was thread exclusive. Is otaku culture truly dying as a whole?

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>>37407439
V-tubers are lets players and game streamers who use anime avatars with facetracking instead of a normal facecam. I mostly come here for touhou gameplay and lore threads so I just ignore them too. I will not hide that I think they’re dumb as shit though. But they dont bother me.

/jp/ lost board culture a while ago, now it’s mostly just a collection of sub-cultures built around different otaku themed things, there’s surely some crossover between them but I suspect it isnt much.

“Otaku” culture is more mainstream than ever which means it isnt some weird niche thing to get enthralled with any more, which by definition makes if not otaku. Word used to be for geeks of trains and weapons, then it became anime and vn stuff, but those were both weird fringe hobbies. Mainstream is not otaku.

So yes, what we now call otaku culture is dying. It has too much growth and is suffering from cancer. Crunchyroll Culture will take its place. RIP.

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>>37407533
That's so sad. I will never stop being a true otaku though, and I'll never stop calling fake otaku out for being faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407439
>What are v-tubers and why are they so bad?
If you think western streamers and the streaming chat culture cancerous you'll understand immediately the v-tuber scene.

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>>37407533
>I will not hide that I think they’re dumb as shit though. But they dont bother me.
I don't even dislike the content creators themselves and I watch clips of them on Youtube sometimes, I just don't think they belong on /jp/ especially now that /vt/ exists.
>/jp/ lost board culture a while ago, now it’s mostly just a collection of sub-cultures built around different otaku themed things
Most of my activity on /jp/ is in one thread nowadays, so I'm not sure if it's a good thing that this thing persists or bad that there's less connection with the rest.

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>>37407577
>Most of my activity on /jp/ is in one thread nowadays
Same. Although it has been a while since the last thread. And from what I have heard, the thread is now a discord wank circle.

There are other threads for topics I like, but they are always either full of shitposting, or their "culture" don't align with my preferred style of posting.

>I'm not sure if it's a good thing that this thing persists or bad that there's less connection with the rest.
Considering that the majority of threads are essentially "mini-boards" with their own culture now, it's probably for the best that things stay this way to prevent constant fanbase wars. That is unless the mods decide to make some new Japanese boards and put restrictions on general threads to prevent fanbases from developing a culture independently from the rest, but we all know that's not going to happen.

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>>37383400
Anime has been shit for at least 10 years
Same for VNs.
And you wonder why people look for alternatives to satiate their hunger for moe? No I'm not gonna watch the same old anime over and over or read the same VNs again. And same for games btw, life is too short to enjoy the same thing repeatedly.

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>>37389421
At least you can switch back to the original sprites unlike Tsukihime R

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>>37408022
>Anime has been shit for at least 10 years
Oreimo S2 aired mid 2013, so that makes at most 8 years since the last good anime.
>life is too short to enjoy the same thing repeatedly
And yet you're still breathing after 18 years of the exact same thing. Looks like you just got owned, son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408294
Yeah also they don't look so bad.
Mangagamer did a good job with their remake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410517
oreimo wasn't good

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411972
Wow look we have a contrarian here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411999
i just didn't like it

[Anonymous No.]

Your post doesn't mention idols...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384278
>I know a few ancientfags who were around when otaku culture was young in the west, and they've moved on to gacha and vtubers and the like.
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37412108
Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37412526
kirino ruined it for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413197
Not gonna lie, Kirino is the best oreimo girl, perhaps even the cutest girl in all of anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413362
i will not insult your tastes, do know however that i do not agree with you

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>>37395414
They haven't deleted the trash heap that is >>37412392 so I don't see why they'd delete this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395414
They haven't deleted the trash heap that is >>37359185 so I don't see why they'd delete this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413480
I can respect that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413938
That's my thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415559
beat his ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415559
Your thread has become a shithole of schizos and namedropping.

[Anonymous No.]

I really don't care anymore, but they should keep all the vteen garbage in their containment thread

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>>37419426
Based, thanks for necrobumping this thread anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>based
go back

[Anonymous No.]

Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

all that matter is that you're happy

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>>37383400
>Visual Novels, anime and touhou!
Yes

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>>37383400
>Type-Moon
The Tsukihime remake was incredible though. It's one of the best things they've ever done. Too bad we have to wait on moree gatcha trash before the next part comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

The good old days...

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>>37383400 (checked)
we should also find where ever /jp/ takes lives and break his computer so we wont have a leech problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393528
i would post a basedjak but i respect myself so instead im gonna call you a faggot.
faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37431755
What is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434407
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_Komuro
good old threads
>>/jp/thread/1770286
>>/jp/thread/5110347

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
People actually cares about "gacha" games and V-tubers nobody really cares about irrelevant boomer shit like Touhou and Fate/Staynight.
Just because you are old doesn't mean everyone else is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434491
>boomer
You need to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434491
>People actually cares about "gacha" games
>nobody really cares about Fate
Oxymoron from a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434508
I'll keep on zoomin and movin, 2hutranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434514
You must be 18 years or older to use this site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434519
Eh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37434477
She cute, too bad she'll be a burger soon.

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>>37397418
>Know there was some sort of war between the anime posters, frogs and soijaks where a lot of dirty tactics were used but thats it.
That's already modern /qa/ history.
/qa/ was really only cozy for a few months after moot's final Q&A.

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>>37397418
>Know there was some sort of war between the anime posters, frogs and soijaks where a lot of dirty tactics were used but thats it.
It's actually a good example of what happens when a board is essentially left to its own devices (for the most part), up to the point of blatant bot spam/raids given even less attention than they would on /b/ or the random boards.

>>37443290 alludes to it, but in the period of 2015-2016, /qa/ was left open but unlisted, and two groups soon took notice.
The first group were people from /jp/ and other 2d boards who, even back then, wanted a 2d-random style board. Some of them were already aggravated at older topics and mainstays becoming less popular, in the same vein of this thread 6 years later. Some wanted a board with laxer moderation than /a/ or /jp/ to shitpost more freely, and noticed the board was mostly ignored.
The second group were serial ban evaders, initially mostly from /jp/ and /a/ but then other boards, who took advantage of the lax moderation to both force the 2DRandom theme with spam/bots/etc., and to use the board as a sort of clubhouse to discuss anti-mod exploits on other boards and plan/reveal things in the relative open.
So for a period of - depending on who you ask - about half a year to one, it had an athmosphere where people would most shitpost about 4chan meta, Anime/Otaku memes, and trolls/botters would show stuff off rather blatantly, while other influences were nipped at the bud by the latter.

Eventually mods got annoyed enough with it that they started doing regular bans/wipes of the most egregious spammers and explicit evaders, but otherwise not intervening much still with off-topic spam on the board. At the same time, they used it as a recycle bin for meta threads, exposing other groups to the board. Not being able to force the 2DRandom theme by force, it slowly disintegrated into the state it was until just recently.

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>>37444746
>in the period of 2015-2016, /qa/ was left open but unlisted
To be more specific, /qa/ became a listed board in September 2015, when Hiro officially took over 4chan and hosted a Q&A thread.

That, to me, is when /qa/ was lost. While meta joking - and even some constructive meta discussion, which led to /his/ being created that same year - was already present, it didn't really dominate until late 2015. I feel like everything that followed and turned /qa/ into one of the worst places on this site is just a result of serious meta/rule discussion completely taking over the 2D/Random (or SFW Random according to some) aspect once most of the userbase started to notice an official "feedback" board existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37397418
>They cant even be bothered to update the format support on the webm boards or make it so a thread doesnt reach the file limit at 150 whilst the posting one is like 300 or 500.
There is no good excuse for not having VP9/Opus by now, yeah, so that's probably just lack of interest.

They do modify the file limit and posting limit of threads on boards from time-to-time though.
/jp/ has 300 images, for example, to account for generals with large imagedumps. They also put an auto-archive on /jp/ at 3000, and now 1500 posts, to account for hololive threads becoming long enough to get in the way of usability.
While it is apparent that the threshold for them to implement such a change is a lot higher than a lot of users would want, I also think that's generally by intention rather than accident. The boards which seem to get most attention from both users and moderation are some of the most ephemeral in terms of threads or some of the most active in general posts. It is not considered a problem that different groups on a board are antagonistic to one another up until the point that it gets in the way of topics being represented at all, and new ideas and trends are basically never directly denied except for the removal of /r9k/ and /new/, and the creation of /mlp/. That it took so long for a board like /v/ to get subcategory boards for non-generals speaks to that.

>>37444869
If that was true, meta discussion wouldn't have died out as well apart from two generals and threads mostly being moved in.
What made it a "bad place" not everyone agrees was a lack any moderation on anyone but the most egregious spammers/evaders, who happened to be so effective that they could effectively perform alternative moderation in lieu of actual mod presence. Don't think it would've lasted more than a year or two regardless either way, as that cat-and-mouse game against other spammers would eventually lead to others taking their place.
You basically wound up with /b/ but without a precedent for people to treat it at face value (and people often bemoan the state of /b/), less direction than even /bant/, and relative disregard to spam as long as it stayed on the board and wasn't mass porn. So it mostly just became a testing ground for spam and ironic shitposting alongside a few meta threads. Some people like that. I don't.

Also, I think what really made it a good place to many, more than even the topic of 2D/Random, was that it appealed to anons who were looking for a board experience where you could shut down dissonant outsiders in a way that /jp/ users had once vicariously tried to get the meido to do, and passive-aggressively tried to do to this very day, and this very thread. In a way which goes against the laissez-faire nature of topics and tone on most boards. That's why I think it is so fondly remembered.
And that's why I also think a lot of threads like these kind of miss the point that /jp/ and 4chan are not the only imageboard one can use for otaku discussion, even without making your own.

[Anonymous No.]

otaku meta goes to page 1

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>>37448172
I'd love to see the quality posts you made that would've gone unposted without that bump

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>>37448772
We can do it this way too, since that's apparently kosher now.

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>>37451087
>>37448172
If you mean the guy bumping and then deleting with . and , , those threads stopped being bumped like that a few days ago and most are dead. Now I don't think it was because they just decided to stop of their own accord, and $5 they'll try it again with something else, but if you see it point it out.
Or you know, if someone does something annoying to grab attention that doesn't contribute to discussion, that justifies you doing the same behavior. Because I guess your problem doesn't actually concern whether people necrobump or not, but who is doing it for what on an anonymous imageboard.

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>>37451294
>those threads stopped being bumped like that a few days ago and most are dead
First time I hear of this. Thanks for letting me know if it's true.
>but if you see it point it out.
Last time I did, I just got my post deleted and it didn't stop. At least I didn't get a warning or anything like that.
>Because I guess your problem doesn't actually concern whether people necrobump or not,
I don't care about necrobumping itself, any thread that didn't reach the bump limit is fair game. It's just the deleting part that annoys me. (>>37451087 was for rhetorical purpose, I'm not doing it again)
>but who is doing it for what on an anonymous imageboard
Maybe I only notice it because of who does it. I think it's the matter of natural selection, sticking to a theme that annoys people but doesn't get deleted is more convenient for the poster than extremely obvious offtopic, the latter rarely stays up long enough.

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>>37383400
I agree but I think I should just move on

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>>37451294
I just reread that part
>>37451698
>>those threads stopped being bumped like that a few days ago and most are dead
>First time I hear of this. Thanks for letting me know if it's true.
I wasn't sure if you meant posts with nothing but "." no longer bump the threads now, or the posters in question were just made to take a vacation from the board. I'm guessing it's the latter, that's also fine.

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>>37383400
What about manga

[Anonymous No.]

>>37458451
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>37458619
didn't we all come here from /a/ though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37458970
You aren't supposed to say that...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389390
this is just saber with a sweater

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
I personally feel like the vtumour invasion of 2020 was a wake up call that our gatekeeping had failed. This entire board was unusable for nearly a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37433108
I should really delete that account, its been a shitty burden since I let a vteen mod it for 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37464992
Wouldn't that be when idol threads first started becoming an issue, whereas the vtumours were the final nail in the coffin for the board?

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>>37464992
>gatekeeping
Anonymous, accountless Futaba-style imageboards - by design - discourage gatekeeping more than practically nearly any other form of online communication. And that's before 4chan moderation, which steps in a lot less than they could, and where other imageboards do.

Almost every other site where you talk with other people has one or more explicit answers to this question:
>How do I preemptively keep certain discussion from gaining traction in a space I participate in?
On 4chan, AFAIK it's either a text block (for spam/illegal content), image hash block (for illegal/copyright content), or rangeban (for repeated abuse). All of which can be circumvented with nonzero but plausible effort.
And 4chan doesn't even
>How do I punish or block people already in that space for engaging in certain discussion?
You (as a user) can block content you don't want to see with filters, but that doesn't filter it out for others who may encourage it regardless. You can try and punish certain threads and posts by insulting or derailing them, but the kind of people who that would weed out either wouldn't come to 4chan in the first place, are thick-skinned enough to ignore it or actively be entertained by it, or just report it if someone is just derailing the thread with it.
Which brings us back to only way on 4chan to really put a speedbump in people posting something a lot of people would like to post about - it actually being against the rules, believing mods think the same way lol, and reporting it. And outside of that golden age of /qa/, if mods disagree you're basically left with the choice of putting up with it or moving on to another space.
\Anyone posting in this thread regardless of their feelings has chosen to continue to put up with it to some extent for the time being by reading and posting. People who have completely moved on wouldn't know of this thread's existence.

Which really begs the question of what, despite its flaws in design and moderation, 4chan in particular brings to the table that entices anons to not move to other imageboards or non-imageboard sites entirely?

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>>37465263
>And 4chan doesn't even
* And 4chan doesn't even really have a consistent answer for the following question

[Anonymous No.]

>>37465263
>Which really begs the question
No it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37465723
I could reply "Yes it does," but that's only as effective as your own reply.
Either explain why it doesn't beg the question in detail or provide what I assume to be some obvious, universal answer to that question I'm not seeing from my experience.

I've started and stopped browsing sites including several imageboards over the years in response to changing tastes and attitudes, sometimes including what moderation does on those sites. So it really does seem kind of wonky for people who primarily express concern about discussing otaku culture in general to be so transfixed on the much, much more ephemeral and unmanageable nature of one particular board of one particular imageboard over the years, all the while expressing their displeasure in willingly using that one board.

There is no answer to this question I can come up with that assumes reasonable actors or any sort of unified opinion, so I think it begs the question for some answer that will not be regarded as flippant, outsider, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

let me just leave it here
https://archive.md/Jdj6q

[Anonymous No.]

>>37465907
>Either explain why it doesn't beg the question in detail or provide what I assume to be some obvious, universal answer to that question I'm not seeing from my experience.
You're just using the phrase wrong, as is common. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
What you meant is that it brings up the question or raises the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37465263
The boards on 4chan I use are slower than other boards on 4chan, but still faster than most other imageboards.

Most imageboards are dead as fuck.

Traditional forums are pretty much extinct.

Twitter/tumblr/facebook really arent about discussion.

Discord is the last option, but using more than one account is a pain in the ass which means it’s very annoying to retain anonymity. To say nothing of what most populated discord groups are like. There’s probably a decent touhou one out there somewhere, but getting an invite to one that isnt trooncentral positivitytown or just about porn would be a likely fruitless search.

That said I dont hate this place. I just browse the three or four threads that interest me once or twice a day and am content with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37440631
WDYM

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>>37383997
Fucking moot leaving without making this
What a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>37467032
She'll move to burgerland with her commoner husband.

[Anonymous No.]

It does make me upset that the mods are vtumor supporters

[Anonymous No.]

>>37469596
Apparently that's all they care about too, since you can force off-topic discussion about Discords and Twitter e-celebs in threads centered around other topics without a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407559
So what makes someone a true otaku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37466128
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/beg-the-question

[Anonymous No.]

>>37470464
That's a philosophical question.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any point in applying for a janitor position, if only to preserve the few threads you give a shit about and actively see getting filled with garbage without a peep?

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>>37383400
I'm pretty sure cultures are in a continuous flux, i.e. it's normal for it to shift as new elements are introduced, we are just the older generation.
I also don't have any love for the increasingly tight grip the cold corporate people have over what current otaku culture is by having vtubers and mobage as their "tools" to conduct what artists will create.
But I just stick to my own interests, you can't force people to not turn into vtuber/gacha zombies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474294
>you can't force people to not turn into vtuber/gacha zombies
problem with zombies is that they are always looking for people to infect with their bullshit, thus they crash into your spaces uninvited

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474008
Janitors are not allowed to protect their favorite general threads. They enforce the rules as written and nothing else. If you delete a mod's epic frogpost without good reason you're just going to get kicked out. If you don't delete every post in every thread questioning vtubers, you're going to be reprimanded. You're going to have to make the transition and join the mod squad if you want to have free reign to protect only the threads you like with whatever imaginary rules you want to enforce upon it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474368
You're correct, I was racking my brains for a long time but I have no idea how or if it's even possible to direct the control of otaku culture back to the passionate people among us.
I won't say money wasn't ever the motivation for early otaku stuff but we've gone from passionately creating cool things to mindlessly consuming garbage, regurgitating it and sharing it which has become easier thanks to social media.
That's just me thinking about it on a macro scale, as far as /jp/ goes, we can try and gatekeep as much as we want but mods are the only ones capable of guaranteed change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37466361
>the last option
>using it at all
It's right in the fucking name, for fuck's sakes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474645
It would require the kind of capabilities and mentalities you folks lack. And guts for it as well, probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474705
I haven't seen a single general that survived its introduction unchanged, both here and the rest of the site in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474780
I know, right?
And it's not just this website at that.
A product that works as advertised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
>There has been a recent shift in otaku culture. Anime boards are being filled with mobage art, "otakus" support V-tubers and play gacha instead of watching anime or reading visual novels.
F/GO is six years old

[Anonymous No.]

>>37465223
I'll give the idolfags some credit because they at least stay in their generals after all this time. Also, for some reason whenever they're unleashed from their threads they either get put on autosage or deleted within hours, unlike Vtubers.
Makes you think a little.
>>37466361
Some forums for specific topics (BJD, VNs, probably more but thats off the top of my head) are surprisingly still active. It's the forum culture that makes using them a pain, but if you just wanted to lurk, they're out there.
Also in my short time using it I've never seen a Discord server dedicated to Touhou not filled with troons and porn. Discord attracts the same crowds as social media fandoms unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37468576
Why doesn't she just stay in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474294
>>37474645
The real heart of otaku culture was always the doujin spirit. Naturally as indie games have exploded in production number our attention is brought to ones made in English or those closer to us.

But shouldn’t the Japanese indie scene be as alive as ever? Has it been chugging along just fine and we’ve all been distracted, or has it actually changed? I would think that’d be the best place to find passionate otaku works untouched by corporate thinktanks and data analysts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37466094
Why did you have to remind me? God damn bronies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474705
>>using it at all
It's an ok program to use to talk to friends with, but for anything else it's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

this board is so fucking over

[Anonymous No.]

>>37487148
Nah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384039
I know exactly what you're talking about but those are more likely to stay in r/4chan and their favorite youtuber's sub. If you've seen one on /b/ chances are he's never coming back, if you see one on a newfriend board like /v/ or /tv/ you can worry a bit but with any luck they'll learn to lurk. If you're seeing them on /pol/ or /int/ it's panic time.
>>37383400
Look another fucking sticky for /vt/ when they already have their own board. Can the oldfags finally stop with the mod worship? This is just /a/ all over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488213
Are you retarded everyone on /jp/ old or new in 2010 or in 2020 hates the mods

[Anonymous No.]

>>37466128
>You're just using the phrase wrong, as is common.
Common usage defines what is correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488213
Also /int/ isn't even that bad, it was my first board (not the 4chan ripoff /int/ though, the actual /int/)

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488213
I don't think anyone here has a positive opinion regarding those retarded cunts, not then, not now. Unfortunately the only solution is another mass exodus, and I mean mass. Maybe to one of the 8moe boards or its surrounding webring. It's quite clear that as long as these faggots are in charge, not even an attempt to fix this place and the site in general can be undertaken. I only come here for the eroge thread which, you guessed it, has been filled by people arguing about Discord and Twitter celebrities to the point of posting screenshots without so much as a slap on the wrist, even after hours of reports. Pretty sure the only way to get their attention at this point is to report under US law, and even that just earns you a warn, with everything else untouched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488349
You mean the one from kraut? I'm not following.
I still have a soft spot for /int/ (BRING BACK RISK THREADS JESUS) but I just check my cunt's general every now and then, see how many go there willingly and how many go because they don't speak english (underage shits). Last time I went there everything seemed alright.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you want /jp/ to be an echo chamber? Otaku culture has always been growing and it's not confined within the limits of the so called "board culture".
I've been here for longer than most of you and enjoy gacha, love vtubers and don't really mind idols. Only fake otakus cling to the old trends as part of their identity and refuse to see the bigger picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488785
I wouldn't care about Vtubers if they didn't already have their own board
Either you have one otaku culture board for everything in it, or you split it up equally.

[Anonymous No.]

What did you expect? The internet and society has evolved. I even watched some amateur 3D porn video recently and they had anime streamed from Netflix/Crunchyroll in the background. This is no longer a medium for esoteric outcasts. Perhaps it has never been. Anyway, you can still enjoy your niches in solitude. If you're not satisfied with that and still need some community, you should look for a discord clique or a similar small internet community. Imageboards are only good for shitposting these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488213
>Can the oldfags finally stop with the mod worship?
Are you in the right board?
>>37488785
What >>37489136 says. Why not have the latest FotM shounen thread here instead of /a/? Anime and manga is otaku culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37489138
True,
But it's more like degraded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488785
I don't care about gatekeeping "otaku" culture. I only care about keeping this board safe from outsiders and crossboarders like you, larping teen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488785
Obvious falseflag is obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393985
>It sounds like you guys just want this place to be a time capsule for what was popular 10-15 years ago.
that would be nice honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388497
what really hurt me the most is /po/ falling

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393985
There's new things that are good (Era games, new 07th Expansion works, new VNs) and there are new things that are cancer (hololive/vtubers, unironic weeb shit, mobile gachashit, etc..)
It's not that hard to understand really

[Anonymous No.]

>>37492086
The origami board? What happened there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393985
>If you browse places like 2ch and futaba everyone's talking about mobage and vtubers
Hmmm not on the boards that I browse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37489138
>Imageboards are only good for shitposting these days.
Nah, still plenty of decent casual discussion on various boards on 4chan. It's just that low-inbibition shitposting is the biggest draw.
Other imageboards are better and worse in terms of quality discussion, but most people reading this probably find them boring.

What 4chan was never good for, relative to other online communities, is a sense of socialization and community. No, in 2009 or 2011 or whatever, /jp/ was not a particularly strong community. Rather, it was the best for many people who either don't tolerate the caveats of a strong, social community, or would be excluded from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>NEET threads
>Otaku threads
>State of touhou threads

We have every flavor of doom posting available here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488339
>Common usage defines what is correct.
/jp/ is an idol and vtuber board then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37493002
It's not even doomposting to state what already is, just fatalism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37488213
>Look another fucking sticky for /vt/
Heh. I just checked warosu and the mods really did sticky yet another vtuber thread.

This whole situation is just laughable. It was very frustrating at first, but now I can't help but chuckle at how bad /jp/ still is almost a year later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37469662
I just remembered the /mgt/ drama. Any doubt that they don't care was gone after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
>8 days since pic related
>not one single desu in this entire thread
needs more desu dbh

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
I must agree, perhaps an altchan is in store?

[Anonymous No.]

All the /jp/ alternatives have 2D/Random boards
but they lack the niche otaku boards
you could have ten or so boards for all the topics that /jp/ covers
Maybe you could convince pissmin to make a bunch of boards and become the otaku hegemon, like iichan uboachan and how they are all called.
at least pissu isn't as hostile to newcomers and actually wants to perpetuate imageboard culture, so it could be the saving grace for a /jp/ that wouldn't just consist of a dwindling userbase, but only if we did anything that would make people want to visit the board.
but the 4chan mods suck ass, they don't want you to leave to alt chans and they don't want to fix the problems that make people leave for alt chans
I'm tired of 4chans shit, I don't want to spend time making up for where the moderators failed. I'd rather use that time on my hobbies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37495975
Can oshikko really be considered a /jp/ alternative if it derived from /qa/? I mean, they do have a /jp/ board but still.

[Anonymous No.]

moe from djt agrees with the OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37465132
then do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37495511
>dbh
You've made a typo desu.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really feel as strongly about sharing the board with other people, mostly just indifference. However, while I admire that /jp/ is probably among the strongest bastion of genuine thoughts or even just taking it easy, it's all the more disheartening to see the increase of aimless shitposts. I'm not even particularly angry at the perhaps mind-numbing image dumping nature of a few threads here & there, but i'm moreso targetting these threads that are obviously made just for the sake of baiting, or consistent attempts at frowned upon discussion with no sign of even trying to make a case for why that thread does belong on /jp/, rather than /d/ or a board where the discussion is more rooted in constant multi layered irony.
I would be pleased with more community events within /jp/ but I don't really know how to go about it, and i'm admitedly a little clueless & not the most imaginative at coming up with concepts. Maybe i'll try something some day.
Even with all of that in mind and the ease & comfort that would be to take the stance of doomposters, I try to stay positive because there's still some worth to /jp/, otherwise I would have deserted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37498502
>I would be pleased with more community events within /jp/
>>37498161

[Anonymous No.]

>>37499277
3DPD

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
>There has been a recent shift in otaku culture.
Yeah it's become full of lazy-asses who wait for content to come to them instead of making it themselves. Twitter and image boards have made them dull and uninteresting and they just browse all day until they find something amusing. They are unable to interact as a community and they are unable to create. They are even unable to talk about the things they like as they lack the passion to drive a conversation about it. They only ones who retain passion are those who are into vtubers, gatcha, and certain characters they like making threads about. The only thing the lazy-asses are passionate about is complaining that no one makes threads that they like for them. They don't translate, they don't come together, they don't bump their own threads, they can't even take it easy. They're just frustrated ghosts. The worst part is that they pretend they miss some sort of community but when they make threads, it's not some thread anyone can wander into and enjoy, it's just some thread about some dead niche topic they can't bring themselves to go to a thread/board about because they hate general threads. Or worse, it's just shitposting for attention, not even anything funny or interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37464992
>I personally feel like the vtumour invasion of 2020
Allowing it to proliferate was the problem to begin with. If this trash was axed in 2017 instead of moving /v/ and /a/ thread to /jp/ then we probably wouldn't have this constant wave of retards flooding the site. Good faith discussion with the cancer have been a waste of time since every newfag to that shit is worse than the previous one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37500032
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37500135
>they are unable to create
We need Keiki on /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37500232
A bunch of real life /jp/sies dancing is 3DPD beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.]

New vtuber sticky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37451294
>If you mean the guy bumping and then deleting with . and , , those threads stopped being bumped like that a few days ago and most are dead.
Amazing how that shit lasted this long even though the janny loves cleaning up the mess of hololive threads (aka the uber tumor) whenever they migrate to a new thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501355
What was the fucking point of /vt/ then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501474
It is a mystery. I bet you can't post Touhou in it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501434
>the janny
honestly, is it hard to imagine some jannies were brought on just to deal with hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501474
Containment board but with the excuse that everything belongs in any board with just enough mental gymnastics. If the screenshots posted more than a year ago are true, then this sticky and previous ones are no surprise, it's the personal toy of a janitor or mod.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501224
Yeah but it's cute and soulful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501919
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501857
I thought jannies aren't allowed to clean their favorite generals? My general had a janny once who did a good job since he already knew the culture and resident shitposters, but he disappeared after a few months most likely due to complaints of being biased.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501994
You first, buzzword spouting /pol/ tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37502159
Kill yourself is now a buzzword?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501355
Fucking hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383997
I unironically want to have more discussions about doujin markets and cons. But I don't think most people have actually gone to them. Especially outside of comiket

[Anonymous No.]

>>37502159
Accusing me of something you're guilty of, funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37502298
Why isn't there any utaware or RM?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37501857
Don't see the problem, you can have threads about touhou on /v/ as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37503297
Only on lucky days, in my experience two out of three 2hu threads get deleted on /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37502298
Is this oldfag culture?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505154
No, oldfag culture is older. I'm not able to correctly date the picture, but not much time has passed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37502298
Any prognosis for the future of the boards, folks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505260
We will get /vn/, and posting anything related to v-tubers will become a bannable offense on any board that isn't /vt/.
/a/ will be split into /a/ - anime, /man/ - manga and /ln/ - light novels; killing any discussion in the process.
All green boards will cease to exist from 2025 onwards due to the worldwide porn ban.
/jp/ will be the only place to discuss anything otaku related anymore, resulting in a flood of newfags and crossboarders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505260
it's going to get even worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>37500135
The people who used to make stuff have better things to do than post here, especially with the current state of things.
Why would you want to gather and share works amongst a bunch of schizophrenic shitposters when there's other sites? Hell even other boards would be better for posting their content.
You need to put yourself in their shoes of shitting on them for leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505247
Thank goodness, I know most of the girls in that picture so I thought I might be a oldfag for a moment...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505657
What about the boys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505735
Boys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37495975
>they don't want you to leave to alt chans
Have they ever said anything regarding that? The way I see it, the mods are trying to get rid of old-time posters in order to make 4chan more accessible to the much bigger casual audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37503297
If the powers that be want them there that day. Something that is the opposite here when it comes to virtual shitters and their redundant general outside of their board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37505442
Did you see the DIY fumo thread? It was the only nice thing I saw related to those tertiary magnets all year but some were busy screaming about how it was wrong to call them that because they weren't official.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37509967
I still have the patterns but sewings a bitch. Also handmade > factory produced any day.
It's kinda sad how threads that happen a while ago are still rememberable, shows how much meaningless stuff gets posted here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37495360
What happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37427209
It was tolerable; made to cater to FGO fags, nothing incredible about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37458970
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>37514865
Little bit of background that I'll try to keep brief: monster girl thread on /jp/ is mostly about MGE with some other stuff tolerated in it. /tg/ used to have its own thread, but for certain reasons it died out. It was mostly about Warhammer and "fixing" MGE, which boils down to ignoring sex in a setting centered around sex; even before the current board situation, on occasion you could find posts by some /tg/ crossposters that were despised by the locals.
After the /tg/ threads ceased, one of its prominent posters thought he could make the /jp/ thread his new home. One of the things he did was making new OP with some Warhammer art hours before the previous thread died, which the residents took as an attempt of hijacking it, but normally it was a small deal since you can just make a second thread and the one with less activity gets pruned. It continued that way, until one day the "impostor" thread somehow stayed even after the "main" thread reached the end and was bumped off page 10. Another thread was made, and the other one still stayed being bumped by the OP, people who didn't look close enough and had to repost in the "main" thread when they realised nobody is going to answer them, and some that just did it for shits and giggles, rinse and repeat. I recall seeing another general (one of the idol threads, I don't remember which one) that didn't have a spat going on, which by accident had two OPs at the same time as well, so it wasn't just that. Hololive thread duplicates were still being pruned properly, by the way. The first time a janitor did something was when there were four threads at once, but he still left two of them, including the "impostor", though it didn't matter much at that point because then it was near the bump limit anyway.
I looked it up again in the archive and it lasted 39 days. 28 "proper" threads were made and reached the bump limit in that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37514865
Someone made a thread with an OP image some people didn't like and the people proceeded to be butthurt because the mods didn't delete the offending thread or image. Typical general stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37519929
>>37520132
I get why generals are a thing, but they always devolve in cancer wars and social fagging. I'd even prefer making slower boards to accomodate more interests instead of compressing them all into a general, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37520802
Yeah, generals can be really comfy if you have the right chemistry of users but it gets really, really bad if an attention whore enters the community and tries to build up an online persona for himself. Which sadly seems to be the fate of every general thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37515932
>made to cater to FGO fags
Literally the opposite is true. It was for made for oldfags.

[Anonymous No.]

Mods enforced the brony containment, thus they should enforce the vtumor containment. They're exactly the same, so they should have the same treatment.

[Anonymous No.]

I really don't care about commercial VNs or modern 2hu, I just want yukkurifriends and the few jissoulovers lurking to come and join gurochan

[Anonymous No.]

>>37521665
At least bronies were an original 4chan subculture and had a fandom on par with 2hu (fan animations, music, games, plushies, etc.)
Vtubers are fucking soulless

[Anonymous No.]

>>37520802
>I'd even prefer making slower boards to accomodate more interests instead of compressing them all into a general, really.
Depends on the thing in question. Some are better off in a single thread or they get spread too thin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37521707
Are you really comparing bronies to Touhou? The ungodly depravity of that fanbase was/is way up there with the furfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37524550
Cum on this guy has to be baiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37524550
The fandom was very comparable to Touhou. I can't think of a fandom that was as inescapable as MLP. Weaponized autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37497900
Desu be honest may be intentional desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>37474645
>we've gone from passionately creating cool things to mindlessly consuming garbage
90% of otaku and 99.9% of /jp/ were always mindless consumers. One person makes one piece of OC and people repost it for generations.

>>37488378
>Unfortunately the only solution is another mass exodus, and I mean mass.
No doubt it'll go about as well as the last seven times you tried it.

>>37476247
Japanese doujin and indie communities are still just as alive as ever except maybe some temporarily reduced event attendance. There's plenty of games being sold every year at events and through dlsite and other places. /jp/ has simply, by and large, ceased to give a shit about them outside of some particularized general threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37507750
>>37495975
You can talk about altchans unless you're spamming or advertising them. The mods would be overjoyed if the people complaining about 4chan all left. The boards that have been singled out for instant banhammers over the years were the 8s, because they advertised their site everywhere on all boards, and shitposter-era /jp/ spinoffs because about half of what they did was raid /jp/.

Nobody ever gave even a little bit of a shit about boards that actually minded their own fucking business like antiquity-era /bun/ or last-gen's 4t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37521665
Can't enforce anything if they keep moving the goalpost. They [virtual shitters] claimed it was impossible to create a board because multiple idiotic reasons and, now that it's up and running, the last thing some of them want to do is move there because equally retarded reasons. It doesn't help that mods keep moving dead generals from elsewhere here while they keep maintaining their glorified chat. Mods would rather clean up the mess of these fags after they flood the board with new threads every 6 hours rather than enforce their containment. Basically, imagine the mods that were around the creation of /mlp/ being huge autistic bronies themselves and not caring about global rule 15, therefore making the entire rule and new board worthless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
otaku are still doing the things which otaku have always done

it just happens they're largely doing things that you don't like

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
It all returns to nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>37526838
Tiger and bunny is still a thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37527002
every year there are nearly a hundred circles still doing hetalia

these things are never gonna die

[Anonymous No.]

>>37521707
>Vtubers are fucking soulless
Brony culture was half having a chip on their shoulder about Touhou and trying to imitate everything they perceived Touhou fans as doing, yukkuri included for some reason, except missing the point of them being parodies of bad 2hu art and jumping right into guro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37526838
Isn't that first fujo thing also a gatcha

>>37527002
>>37527081
I just became surprised that JJBA is popular enough to get a full remake and animation of the whole series, but not enough to get even 100 circles doing it. Are the copyright holders really hardass about it? But then looking at that chart again, maybe only certain kinds of circles are counted. I wonder what happened to Inazuma 11 and why Detective Conan still has so many circles. What the fuck do they even do? I can't imagine it's mainly manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37526663
>imagine the mods that were around the creation of /mlp/ being huge autistic bronies themselves
It wouldn't have mattered because we had an owner who still gave a shit about this site.
>>37527963
Even though I saw fluffies on /b/ first, when I discovered yukkuri I instantly assumed the horses were the copy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383400
After what Ryukishi did I hope 07th gets burred in a deep tomb and eternally forgotten. Compared to that who cares about vtubers or whatever.
That is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530205
I just finished the higurashi vn for the first time. I'm looking forward to watching the new anime, I hope they are good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530464
I warn you
If you had any fondness for the characters, or the setting, or the moral, or any of the answer chapters.
They're shat on and betrayed harder than story I've ever seen.
Hence the hole in my heart when I think of "old /jp/". Not to be a dramatic faggot about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530510
This, but only if you're a cancerous waifufag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530544
Sure.
Even speaking in a completely objective way a whole season of recaps with another "magic" ending, and forgets about 80% of the characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530205
What has happened, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530510
It surely can't be that bad, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530669
>>37530709
To spoil as little as possible
Post-Matsuribayashi, through magic induced schizophrenia one member of the club is turned into a Judas who tortures and kills the others eternally, almost like Takano x100, for an insanely bad reason, even pretty much makes fun of themselves and their terrible problem from original Higurashi. Then the second season recaps from their point of view for literally no reason other than to fill time in a endless 8 style controversy, then at the final episode everything is good because the evil judas decides to leave spiritually as a witch, leaving behind the old character as if nothing every happened. Happy ending!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530765
Strange times indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530606
Shut the fuck up, you're just mad that your waifu got put in place for coming out as lesbian desu.
>>37530765
COPE Satoko always was a judas, remember how she pushed Keiichi and her parents down a cliff?
Also the ending is kino, I cried when Dear You started playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37531369
You cried over the two characters you dislike?
Sorry am I supposed to take that seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37531481
I cried because the song is beautiful and we got a happy ending, dipshit, not because I cared about Satoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530180
>we had an owner
Don't say that, anon, he simply went out for some milk. I'm 101% sure he will come back and with some fresh milk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37527963
>trying to imitate everything they perceived Touhou fans as doing, yukkuri included for some reason
I was really confused when I saw those things, weird cargo cult thinking.
>>37531637
It better be a real good milk. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>37530180
>>37537408
What kind of name is "fluffy" anyway? Jissouseki is twisted from Suiseseki's name and the creature is essentially just a chibi Suiseiseki, and yukkuri is just an abbreviation of the phrase associated with the original bad art. You can really feel the soullessness when they couldn't even come up with a meaningful name nor original look.

I wonder if the internet forgot how to make net characters. iM@S used to have a bunch of weird things as well besides the puchis. Maybe the creativity is all being used up on gatcha designs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388057
>>37469596
>>37521665
Have you sent feedback today?

[Anonymous No.]

^this is a janny

[Anonymous No.]

>SmugAme6.jpg
>no smug

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the thread, Anons. It's not going to change anything, but it was nice to have a discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>37545804
Name one.

[Anonymous No.]

2chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>37545677
Tell me about it they would've moved this to /qa/ before

[Anonymous No.]

This was a nice thread, goodbye anonymouse!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37545677
Glad you got a chance to vent. Just remember. /jp/ is part of the Holo Empire.

[Anonymous No.]

When is the next holocaust?

[Anonymous No.]

Never forget, this is otaku culture now >>37546379

[Anonymous No.]

>>37545677
Surprised the virtual cancer janitor didn't touch this one. They usually love using their sausage fingers whenever similar threads or posts pop up. Either way, it was nice having a conversations with anons about this cancer issue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37545512
I havent actually thought of that, is there an IRC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37547265
imagine being this new

[Anonymous No.]

Remember that the best way to get rid of something is through violence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548104
Being internet tough guy is kinda moot, but i heard that /pol/ apparently is trying to force vtubers to submit to trans rights shit after /vt/ raided them
I usually dont want to acknowledge pol but they come up with some good ideas occasionally

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548161
That sounds retarded and counterproductive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548170
I'd pay money to see tranny rights spammed on /vt/, idk about you but that sounds hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548206
I'm just really sick of tranny shit and don't want to see it anywhere anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548161
>/pol/ apparently is trying to force vtubers to submit to trans rights shit after /vt/ raided them
Are you trying to trick me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548289
Its second hand rumors from /a/, admittedly.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548999
Retard alert!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37548394
>>37548289
>>37548206
>>37548161
It's more likely ex/qa/ raided /pol/ and is now planning on raiding /vt/ as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>37549675
The hell happened to /qa/ anyway? I know it was shitpost after shitpost, but what tipped it over the edge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37549748
>but what tipped it over the edge
The same thing that happened to jayppe last year: No one gave a fuck about the mess.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, before the thread dies, a quick searching around the other boards' archives and the sentiment towards that /vt/ shit is more negative than positive or simply neutral. They truly are the bronies of "anime" land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37547265
>>37547283
He was better off not knowing.
>>37548161
>force vtubers to submit to trans rights shit after /vt/ raided them
It might be difficult now, HL seems more cautious about bending to political pressure after the whole mess with China.
>>37549748
If you mean the shutdown, it was a (falseflag?) raid on /lgbt/ that finished them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37549748
You mean as in make them act that way or get shut down? Shut down because of what they're still doing, raiding everywhere. They act that way because it's a cesspool of butthurt mixed in with metathreads about malicious moderation and as a board itself unmoderated, so it tended towards baiting insane people from other boards who liked to go there and complain as well to act like nuts on that board until the people baiting them were worse. As for the wojack spam, I have no idea. I think being used as a 2D/random made frogposters mad and wojack posters posted as an excuse to "fight" them , but in the end it started turning into a bunch of /pol/ stuff, starting with that nonbinary girl image and going out from there. Basically pol posters ruined it with their screaming basedjaks and trannyjacks and then posters got tired of it and just shitposted with them, eventually just shitposting to themselves until every thread was just shitposting. Then they started to take their shitposting circus around and got shut down.

>>37549825
vtubers are at least on topic. If /jp/ were spammed with onahole or JAV or vocaloid or even KS, it would still at least somewhat be on topic and not just a bunch of random 2011-2014 era spam of kinectimals and black guys sucking candycanes and "do you even lift".

>>37549916
>They truly are the bronies of "anime" land.
Are they? And were bronies ever really that bad on 4chan, it's one of those things /co/ irrationally hares like Stephen Universe and Loud House that led to the invention of /trash/ because they couldn't tolerate small cartoon horses on their board. imo though, /vt/ should be a streamers/internet personality catchall board or all that shit should be pushed to /soc/ since /soc/ is the literal camwhore board. Bronies probably only have their own board because they're adjacent to furries. I wish they would have done that to monstergirl fans as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37550518
The IRC is just a hangout, directing people to go there with complaints was a mistake since there's not much mods can say in the first place. They rarely reply directly to what people ask since mod consensus has to align on stuff, and what they gets screencapped and posted on 4chan so saying the wrong thing will cause a lot of problems. That's also why mod posts are kinda rare. I think it's too easy to get the wrong idea of staff, the voiceless presence thing makes intentions seem worse than they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37550852
What's IRC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37552286
Discord for hackers/pedos/scanslators

[Anonymous No.]

>>37550852
>They rarely reply directly to what people ask since mod consensus has to align on stuff, and what they gets screencapped and posted on 4chan so saying the wrong thing will cause a lot of problems.
If that were true then they wouldn't have said the things they did regarding /jp/ for the past year or so.