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Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:29:05 2009 No.3882865 [Reply] [Original]

http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2009/12/11/soul-link-will-not-be-censored/
After a lengthy and heated discussion, we have decided to release Soul Link and Higurashi uncensored with all CGs intact.

As you all may know, the issues in Japan following the outcries of Equality Now have left many companies wary and overcautious when it comes to deciding what constitutes child pornography. With the United Kingdom, Australia, and Canada cracking down and restricting content even more, we were no exception. As a company who hopes to offer our products to the entire English speaking world, we originally felt it necessary to take extra precaution to ensure that neither our company nor our customers would face prosecution or other action as a result of our products. This is why we originally felt it was necessary to remove Nanami’s CGs and replace Satoko’s naked sprite with the sprite where she covers herself with a towel. We wanted to ensure the safety of our staff, our consumers, and our ability to continue producing these games.
However, as many fans have made it clear, we have to choose where we draw the line carefully. The images we have released in our games so far and the images in these games being released soon are acceptable under Freedom of Speech. Furthermore, our products are being sold to a mature audience who is capable of making responsible decisions about what material they buy. Also, as many have already said, if we wish to continue in this business, we must push for our own standards as well. Although it is impossible to say there will not come a time when we are forced to censor content in a game, we do intend to proceed selling our products uncensored.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:31:05 2009 No.3882871 Damnit, Now I'm gonna feel guilty pirating it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:32:05 2009 No.3882874 Good. I applaud this.

>>	Sudo !nAoZUmIAfk Fri Dec 11 03:33:05 2009 No.3882876 Nice to see them show some balls.

>>	MolesterJim Fri Dec 11 03:34:05 2009 No.3882877 Ain't that cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:34:05 2009 No.3882878 >>3882876 u said balls lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:35:05 2009 No.3882882 >>3882874 >>3882876 LMAO HE SAID BALLS

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:35:05 2009 No.3882884

Look at that, they didn't do it. Its not like i really ever cared, since i was going to pirate it anyway. Luckly im not such a faggot as the people who complain about thing they wont even pay. Those of you who support the company so i can keep on reading for free, enjoy your victory.

>>	The /k/ Police !NkbCou5nOw Fri Dec 11 03:35:05 2009 No.3882885 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 HOLY HECK TAHT GUY SAID BALLS!!!!! ROFL >>3882874

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:36:05 2009 No.3882886 Who cares about Equality Now? Also, like people really buy shit from Mangagamer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:37:05 2009 No.3882888 Mangagamer, defenders of freedom.

>>	Suigintou !c/Alice/AE!!s5+Blq2ztyV Fri Dec 11 03:37:05 2009 No.3882889 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >>3882876 >balls HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAS OH MY FEARKING GOD

>>	NewFriend !zkraGArAss Fri Dec 11 03:38:05 2009 No.3882893 Guess I'll buy it after all. Just to spite feminism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:39:05 2009 No.3882894 Good for them.

>>	Toon Link !!qJq+5W2asGO Fri Dec 11 03:39:05 2009 No.3882895 File: 3 KB, 80x100, yoyutchi.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882876 >balls

>>	GipFace Fri Dec 11 03:39:05 2009 No.3882896 Now don't all you faggots who complained feel like idiots? I told you all your bitching was pointless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:40:05 2009 No.3882902 >>3882896 It was the bitching that made them reconsider, failure of a troll who pretends to be an asshole.

>>	Zetto San Fri Dec 11 03:42:05 2009 No.3882910 File: 265 KB, 400x400, 1259798553889.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >balls

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:42:05 2009 No.3882912 golden balls!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:44:05 2009 No.3882914 File: 65 KB, 352x300, Duke Nukem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Balls of steel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:45:05 2009 No.3882916 Anyone who complained about the censorship and doesn't buy it is a monumental faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:46:05 2009 No.3882919 I'll be buying Higurashi and Soul Link now.

>>	GipFace Fri Dec 11 03:47:05 2009 No.3882920 >>3882916 I guarantee you, it won't be more than one or two people from here who said they weren't going to buy because of censorship, that actually wind up buying the thing. It's well known that /jp/ is nothing but a den of hypocrites and pirates.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:48:05 2009 No.3882924 Never planned on Soul Link in the first place, but Hell, might as well now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:48:05 2009 No.3882925 >>3882920 Some of them might buy Higurashi.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:49:05 2009 No.3882927 File: 24 KB, 251x251, 1251225826190.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882920

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:49:05 2009 No.3882929 >>3882920 hey, dont put us together, most of us pirates arent hipocrites, we take what comes to us, and dont complain. The hipocrites just happen to pirate, but arent pirates.

>>	Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE Fri Dec 11 03:49:05 2009 No.3882930 Too bad there is still no release date.

GipFace Fri Dec 11 03:50:05 2009 No.3882932

>>3882925
Yeah, figures that you guys would like that ugly shit that I can't even bear to look at. No thanks, I'll stick to VNs that don't suck. If you just want to read a bunch of text, then go out and read a book. Otherwise, find a VN that's actually pretty to look at, or you're missing the point entirely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:50:05 2009 No.3882933 >>3882930 It's being released on the 28, I believe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:51:05 2009 No.3882936 File: 44 KB, 454x432, obvious troll.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882932

>>	Sageru ( ◜︹◝) !robutTSx/A Fri Dec 11 03:51:05 2009 No.3882937 File: 4 KB, 130x97, greenforestimp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3882876 The balls are inert.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:53:05 2009 No.3882942 >>3882932 The difference between VNs and novels is more than just pretty pictures, its the use of SFX, music and the interactivity (e.g. TIPS system). I don't know why I'm responding to fake GipFace, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:53:05 2009 No.3882943 >lengthy and heated discussion I hope it ended with gay sex on the office desk.

>>	GipFace Fri Dec 11 03:54:05 2009 No.3882944 File: 95 KB, 640x480, UGLY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You can seriously look at this shit and tell me it's not the ugliest thing you've ever seen?

>>	GipFace Fri Dec 11 03:54:05 2009 No.3882946 File: 130 KB, 800x600, PRETTY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here, compare to a screenshot from a VN that doesn't suck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:54:05 2009 No.3882948 >>3882944 The story is what is important. The art is second.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:55:05 2009 No.3882953 >>3882944 You've never played Ren'Py games?

>>	Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE Fri Dec 11 03:55:05 2009 No.3882954 >>3882946 ahh that reminds me, isn't ef supposed to be fully translated soon?

>>	GipFace Fri Dec 11 03:56:05 2009 No.3882959 >>3882948 No. Even the best VN story is shit compared to real literature. If you actually think it's even comparable, you're just an idiot otaku, and should read a real book sometime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:56:05 2009 No.3882960 >>3882946 Naru Nanao's art isn't much better than Higurashi's.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:56:05 2009 No.3882964 This shit is amusing itself. Localisation notes for Cat Girl Alliance (JAST), that mostly just say "nothing was removed". Wonder why they would release a statement that says nothing, hmmm? http://www.jastusa.com/cat-girl-alliance-localization-notes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:58:05 2009 No.3882977 >>3882959 A lot of "real literature" is also shit. Not all of it of course, but stuff like "War and Peace" are only famous for being long and old.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:58:05 2009 No.3882979 I was not going to buy this, but i will now. That's awesome.

>>	Sudo !nAoZUmIAfk Fri Dec 11 04:00:05 2009 No.3882984 >>3882954 This month, supposedly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:00:05 2009 No.3882986 >>3882959 Lrn2 tastes, faggot. I don't give a shit to your text only pieces of paper, i want delicious looking 2D girl art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:00:05 2009 No.3882988 >>3882959 I was going to make a serious comment, but your trolling is now devoid of even remotely intelligent points now. You're a terrible troll, fake GipFace, even compared to the actual GipFace.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:01:05 2009 No.3882990 I don't read VNs for high literature, I read them because they're an interesting medium, told with a unique writing style, and combine art and music with the text.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:01:05 2009 No.3882993 >>3882990 >because they have naked children I can see right through you, anon.

>>	Asshole !TVQtZB6TJA Fri Dec 11 04:02:05 2009 No.3882994 I know I read them for the naked children.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:05:05 2009 No.3882999 >>3882988 What he's posting is pretty much copied and pasted from GipFace's various rants. So they're equally terrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:07:05 2009 No.3883004 I read because of the naked children, actually.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:08:05 2009 No.3883005 I can't wait to see if NNL will post something smug about this.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:10:05 2009 No.3883012

>>3882977
Your argument is moronic. War and peace isn't famous because it's old and long. You're correct for other reasons though.

"Real" Literature is complete shit. The classics are one out of thousands upon thousands, of course they put most else to shame. They're in the top .01%. Compared to the average book VNs are fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:11:05 2009 No.3883015 >>3882999 I've gathered that. That's what makes him worse - imitators are always worse than the original.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:18:05 2009 No.3883028 Me: Hahahaha, yeah right, it's probably a 404 link or some shi-- >goes to link anyway, it's true HOLY SHIT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:23:05 2009 No.3883039 Does this mean Koihime is safe?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:24:05 2009 No.3883045 >>3883039 It better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:25:05 2009 No.3883047 >>3882865 Respect. Mangagamer just became heroes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:26:05 2009 No.3883051 >>3883039 Unless suddenly various parties try to enforce shit, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:27:05 2009 No.3883058 This is fucking awesome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:29:05 2009 No.3883063 I'm happy to see them stand up to feminazis and sexually repressed conservatives. I'm going to fill so bad pirating this, though. :\ Maybe there'll be more buyfags now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:29:05 2009 No.3883064 >Australia >Implying they'd let Higurashi in regardless of censorship

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:31:05 2009 No.3883074 I suspect that mangagamer didn’t intended to remove any CG to begin with. If you just analyse the situation all this drama seems like planned PR for their incoming relises.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:32:05 2009 No.3883078 >>3883064 They might go the Denmark route and refuse to consider it a game, then rate it only on the minigame content. Was it Denmark that did that? Some country in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:32:05 2009 No.3883081 >I suspect that mangagamer didn’t intended to remove any CG to begin with. They've already done it and censored various things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:33:05 2009 No.3883082 >>3883078 That was France I believe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:34:05 2009 No.3883088 I am happy they made this decision. I just wish it was $15.00 cheaper. It would put their titles in reach of my pocket book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:35:05 2009 No.3883092 >>3883081 By CG i mean Soul Link ones, not overall

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:38:05 2009 No.3883101 >>3882946 what is this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:38:05 2009 No.3883102 >>3883081 Mangagamer has censored before? I thought it was JAST that did that, with Family Project (without telling anyone ahead of time, even).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:40:05 2009 No.3883104 >>3883102 You're right. Sorry I got them confused.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:41:29 2009 No.3883109 >>3883104 At least JAST only editted the pics, no one would have noticed unless it was pointed out. Still dumb, though. Completely removing CGs is worse, and seeing nothing but a black screen and text would be really weird and ruin the scene.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:45:05 2009 No.3883129 Now maybe they'll stay afloat long enough to translate Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:47:05 2009 No.3883134 >>3883064 That's what makes downloading so great. I can buy it and not have to worry about pesky Customs inspections.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:50:05 2009 No.3883145 File: 57 KB, 650x750, higurashi_fr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3883082

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:53:05 2009 No.3883151 >>3883101 ef

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:53:05 2009 No.3883152 >>3883145 In before >7

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:00:05 2009 No.3883168 >>3883134 It's legal to own things that have been refused classification as long as you don't sell it within australia. Loli will probably be a different story.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:09:05 2009 No.3883189 >>3883145 I like how Mr. Delicious is on the cover but K1 isn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:14:05 2009 No.3883198 >>3883151 Oh, I thought you were just being a dick at first and giving me an abbreviation. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:15:05 2009 No.3883202 >>3882960 Seriously now...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:23:05 2009 No.3883218 >>3882946 You forgot to post an image without a slut.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:30:05 2009 No.3883230 >>3883189 That's because he didn't have a sprite yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:32:05 2009 No.3883239 >>3882865 I may actually buy this. If I do, will I get an actual CD, or will it just be an internet download?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:32:05 2009 No.3883242 >>3883239 Internet download.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:33:05 2009 No.3883244 >>3883242 ...Fuck that shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:33:05 2009 No.3883246 >>3883244 You know you weren't going to buy it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:34:05 2009 No.3883247 This is fucking awesome. I might even buy this game to congratulate them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:37:05 2009 No.3883257 >>3883247 Same here. Such a nice time for this announcement to catch my interest too, what with Christmas coming up and all. I'll definitely have cash to throw around then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:40:05 2009 No.3883269 I've bought every single mangagamer product and will continue to support them as long as I have money to do so

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:41:17 2009 No.3883271 I am very impressed with Mangagamer's decision. I really respect them for taking such a big risk. I was originally going to pirate both games, but I think I will buy Higurashi to show my support.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:50:05 2009 No.3883277 It hard to bar Internet dowloads unless you are China or Iran. No messy customs officals pawing over your purchases and snooping into your business pr throwing you in jail.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:51:05 2009 No.3883279 >>3883168 Pretty sure they can confiscate it at Customs, though.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:56:25 2009 No.3883307 [DELETED]

>>3883279
Not at all.
If the sale took place somewhere other than Australia you're completely entitled to it (And the sale takes place wherever the Retailer is located, even over Steam you're technically entitled to the Uncensored version because the sale takes place in Washington)

If Customs do take it, you either live in Western Australia or rang Customs and shouted "I AM GOING TO SELL THIS GAME GUYS" before they got it, otherwise it's a matter of "Innocent until proven Guilty give me my fucking game"

>>	Tassos Papadopoulos !!Z78DBRKvCEF Fri Dec 11 05:58:05 2009 No.3883314 >>3883307 good luck with that.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 05:59:27 2009 No.3883315 [DELETED]

Not at all.
If the sale took place somewhere other than Australia you're completely entitled to it (And the sale takes place wherever the Retailer is located, even over Steam you're technically entitled to the Uncensored version of Left4Dead2 because the sale takes place in Washington)

If Customs do take it, you either live in Western Australia or rang Customs and shouted "I AM GOING TO SELL THIS GAME GUYS" before they got it, otherwise it's a matter of "Innocent until proven Guilty give me my fucking game"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:03:05 2009 No.3883327 I will now buy both of these games to support this awesome decision.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:05:05 2009 No.3883330

>>3883279
Not at all.
If the sale took place somewhere other than Australia you're completely entitled to it (And the sale takes place wherever the Retailer is located, even over Steam you're technically entitled to the Uncensored version of Left4Dead2 because the sale takes place in Washington)

If Customs do take it, you either live in Western Australia or rang Customs and shouted "I AM GOING TO SELL THIS GAME GUYS" before they got it, otherwise it's a matter of "Innocent until proven Guilty give me my fucking game"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:06:05 2009 No.3883334 >>3883330 Why is Ausfailia so hell bent on following Britain in being completely ridiculous?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:08:05 2009 No.3883346 >>3883330 Huh, didn't know that. Thanks, man, just googled it and you're right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:11:05 2009 No.3883358 I'd buy if I got something more physical than a series of magnetic patterns on my hard drive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:13:05 2009 No.3883364 >>3883358 You mean you don't have an SSD yet?

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:14:05 2009 No.3883368

>>3883334
These laws haven't been changed since the 90's, before Adults playing Videogames was so outspoken, they assumed that because Videogames were primarily directed at kids they were a Children's medium, and as such an R18 rating would be useless and do more damage than good.
Now, with many violent games coming out they still don't know that most Videogamers are adults, and even then, popular opinion tells me that one man on the entire ratings board is the man holding the R18 rating back.

I don't expect it to last long, people are getting very active about it, letters, meetups/protests, it will go through eventually, even if we have to wait for Michael Atkinson to retire.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:16:05 2009 No.3883373 Wrong decision. I don't want my manga-chan see being charged with stupidity because bunch of hipster manchild retards had to baaw about stuff that is so stupid it's not even worth mentioning on 4chan. Good job retards

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:18:05 2009 No.3883376 >>3883373 Go back to bed, Tim.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:20:05 2009 No.3883382 >>3883373 What is life without freedom? What is mangagamer without loli?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:20:05 2009 No.3883384 >>3883376 But I just woke up stupid and being older than you, it's time to show me some respect, Anton.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:26:05 2009 No.3883406 >>3883373 Charged with what by who? MangaGamer has never been under legal threat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:30:05 2009 No.3883414 >>3883406 For example, by the Europen Neo-Communist Organization known as EU.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:33:05 2009 No.3883425

>>3883414
How? The law in the Netherlands only restricts realistic depictions. And there's nothing to suggest the EU will pass laws overriding their position.

Also, you're a fucking tool for using both using 'neo-communist' and describing the EU as such.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:41:05 2009 No.3883457 >>3883414 That bunch of faggots is too busy making laws about the percentage of vegetal fat of the chocolate that's produced in the entire EU. It's impressive that only Italy is against such stupid shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:47:05 2009 No.3883484 >>3883334 >Australia Say, did anyone read the news days ago about this Australian coach that allegedly molested/raped as much as 30 swimming champions? Their moralsquad didn't seem to do much about that case....

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:48:05 2009 No.3883486

>>3883425
Time to do some history read-up aniki. Seriously now. And the matter with law just take the regulations on videogames in Europe. The industry is under high pressure by politicans and communist officials and I doubt it they will let the current regulations of the member-state untouched and instead make new regulation for the whole socialist union

>>	dasuraga !8GgBtN/zr. Fri Dec 11 06:50:05 2009 No.3883491 >>3883414 please look at the definition of communism and what the EU actually is before saying something that dumb

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:52:05 2009 No.3883495 >>3883486 You have no freaking clue what you're talking about, do you?

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 06:58:05 2009 No.3883511

>>3883491
You don't know what Communism or Socialism in the first place is. In fact it's an instrument of population control, a scientific dictatorship, call it totalitarian regime or centralized authoritarian technocrazy or whatever because it's all the same. Most of the leftist Lord Gaia faggets in Europe call it a corporate fascist entity because they are trapped in their left-right paradigm.
Communism is a complete take-over of everything the current world stands for even with it's built in contradictions and hipocrisy.
First they implement the macro-control factors in the EU which they are doing on a massive scale and once they have finished this job the micro-management will start and then suddenly hello world to neo-socialist, neo-feudal system system. the official succesor of the Soviet Union

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:08:05 2009 No.3883543 >>3883511 Just wait for Russia to enter the EU.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:15:05 2009 No.3883568

For example: Right know the technocratz of the EU are working on the linking and merging of the executive branches of it's member-states. Huge sums go into the creation of new infrastructures for the EU wide police state apparatus rationalized with the war on terror and crime prevention. The plans say that every possible channel that connects the EU with the rest of the world will be upgraded and "secured" to ensure proper security for the european population, meaning that international train stations and airports will have to meet the modern standards of a 21st century police state with special body scanners, face recognition cameras, real-time interconnected databanks, new digital ID systems and the list goes so on.

Remember authoritiarans love to create fancy new agencies for special purposes and so they are creating a new special unit for crowd control on demonstrations. Every nation with para-military units is allowed to send in personal to built up this new special unit that will be the front runner for "securing" important global meetups and power demonstrations like military parades but with the possibility to send them in to any demonstration within the EU.

Another important point right now is 'cyber-crime' and internet regulations that is being worked on. I expect something big to happen in this department within the next five years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:15:05 2009 No.3883571 >>3883511 You use big convoluted paragraphs to express your denial over good old capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:27:05 2009 No.3883600 And I haven't even mentioned the planned new direct taxes for 'EU citizen' in the name of Gaia and the upcoming global neo-socialist take-over of the western world by the Climate-Communist. Have fun with world-government on the macro-scale

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 08:10:05 2009 No.3883704 >>3883364 Back to /g/, please.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 08:26:05 2009 No.3883724 Defenders of freedom. fuck equality now and all those other faggots

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 08:34:05 2009 No.3883744 I wasn't even going to pirate this. Now I'm absolutely going to spend my hard-earned job seeker allowance (UK) on this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 08:56:05 2009 No.3883783 BUY THIS FUCKING GAME

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 09:07:05 2009 No.3883804 This'll become their top selling game of all time because of this alone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 09:14:05 2009 No.3883823 1. Tell people you're going to cut content from a game no one cares about 2. Let people bitch for a while 3. Reverse your earlier decision 4. Profit, as suddenly people want to buy it This isn't a bad business strategy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 09:15:05 2009 No.3883826 File: 69 KB, 640x480, Huge hands.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll be buying Higurashi now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 09:23:05 2009 No.3883848 So I guess Higurashi will be rated M for nudity and mature themes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 09:24:05 2009 No.3883850 File: 105 KB, 250x307, 250px-SCS_Freedom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Join Freedom! Buy from MG.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:18:05 2009 No.3884022 Not only happy about the uncensoring, but also very happy about the reasoning they used.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:19:26 2009 No.3884028 >>3882861 stop spamming ur shitty board on ａｎ o ｎ t ａｌｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:37:05 2009 No.3884091 I will now be buying Soul Link. And maybe Shuffle or Higurashi...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:41:05 2009 No.3884106 >>3883330 whats this about western australia? how does it work different here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:43:05 2009 No.3884113 in b4 it still doesn't sell well

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:47:05 2009 No.3884124

>>3884106
It's illegal to own things in WA that have been refused classification, because each state has its own laws.
Like how porn in general is illegal (But not enforced) in all Australian states except for the Northern Territory and ACT.

Yes, Australian law needs a fucking huge rehaul.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:47:26 2009 No.3884122 >>3882864 stop spamming ur shitty board on ａｎ o ｎ t ａｌｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:48:05 2009 No.3884129 Australia, the UK, and Canada must be awful places to live.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:49:05 2009 No.3884135

Speaking of sales, has anyone else noticed how highyl sexromp-based MangaGamer's "Top 5 Weekly Titles" always are? Right now, the top three selling games for this week are "Which girl should I choose?," My sex slave is a classmate," and "Suck my dick or die!" With "Da Capo" and "Shuffle" both below them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:49:26 2009 No.3884138 >>3882864 stop spamming ur shitty board on ａｎ o ｎ t ａｌｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:52:05 2009 No.3884154 >>3884129 Well, in Australia we still haven't got retarded police Tazing everyone that looks them in the eye. ... ... ... Yet...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:54:05 2009 No.3884166 >>3884135 Hinatabokko isn't a sex romp though.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:56:05 2009 No.3884181

>>3883704
Oh god, that thread was a clusterfuck, wasn't it?

I wanted to leave, but I couldn't. I HAD to argue. I promised to myself that I would give up arguing on the internet, especially on 4chan.

On-topic, it stinks that Mangagamer doesn't do boxed releases, but I guess it makes sense given their limited audience. I'm a huge faggot for boxes though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 10:57:05 2009 No.3884188 >>3884129 Canadafag here. Yes it's awful here. I want to buy figs/onaholes but I'm fucking scared the Thought Police will get me and I'll have to kill myself earlier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:00:05 2009 No.3884205 >>3884181 You can always make your own. It can be a very fun and satisfying craft project.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:02:05 2009 No.3884219 I think I'll buy both of their games now. Brofist

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:02:05 2009 No.3884223 >>3884205 But then it doesn't have the new box smell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:02:52 2009 No.3884221 >>3884205 A bit off-aim there, bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:04:26 2009 No.3884237 >>3882861 stop spamming ur shitty board on ａｎ o ｎ t ａｌｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:05:05 2009 No.3884247 >>3884188 You can always make your own. It can be a very fun and satisfying craft project.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:08:05 2009 No.3884264 >>3884223 Its just plastic smell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:09:05 2009 No.3884273 Less box talk, more conspiracy theories.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:11:05 2009 No.3884278 >>3884273 I BET THE JEWS DID IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:11:05 2009 No.3884283 good job /jp/ now mangagamer will get smashed by the law and we won't get anymore translated games just for some loli cg

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:12:05 2009 No.3884287 File: 94 KB, 500x700, aa61e03fa5de08a047159782de35f8e6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3884247 >You can always make your own. It can be a very fun and satisfying craft project. It's like I'm really an elementary schooler!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:13:26 2009 No.3884294 >>3882861 stop spamming ur shitty board on ａｎ o ｎ t ａｌｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:15:05 2009 No.3884298 >>3884287 An elementary schooler making Masturbation tools.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:15:05 2009 No.3884301 >>3884283 Do not go there young one. You are not ready for the uprise

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:19:05 2009 No.3884318 For the first time ever, fan rage actually did something. This blows my mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:21:05 2009 No.3884324 I'll make a torrent for it then when it comes out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:22:05 2009 No.3884334 >>3884318 Mangagamer figures that extra sales are worth the legal risk, given how small their market is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:24:05 2009 No.3884342 Hahaha fuck yeah Mangagamer, now all you faggots who complained will be forced to buy it

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:27:05 2009 No.3884362 >>3884342 They'll just pirate it anyway. Personally I wasn't planning to buy it (or pirate it) in the first place, but I might if the translation is good. I've heard some shifty things about mangagamer's translations...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:30:05 2009 No.3884375 >>3884362 Their old translations were garbage, the new ones are fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:31:05 2009 No.3884378 >>3884362 Shuffle was better translated then Family Project.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:31:05 2009 No.3884381 >>3884318 Reported.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:32:05 2009 No.3884388 >>3884362 Same. Them treating their fans as respectfully as this has attracted my attention, and I DO like the idea of actually owning a game. Buy? What is this "BUY"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:35:05 2009 No.3884402 >>3884388 I kinda wish Higurashi wasn't so expensive, but I guess it can't be helped. I mean, I picked up Seacats 1-4 for like 20 bucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:40:05 2009 No.3884427 >>3884402 Where did you get it? Paletweb's out of Stock on Vol 1-4, and HimeyaShop is more expensive than that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:51:05 2009 No.3884480 >>3884427 http://www.amazon.co.jp/うみねこのなく頃に-Episode4-真相解明読本-ブレインナビ/d p/457516481X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260550229&sr=8-1 I used japantoy.biz to buy from them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:55:05 2009 No.3884505 But HIgurashi has no CGs to be censored, well, it doesn't have CGs, so I can't understand why they include HIgurashi, descriptiob of gore isn't gore

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 11:57:05 2009 No.3884519 >>3884505 There's a naked Satoko character sprite.

>>	mormon guy !nAP.g00d1k Fri Dec 11 11:59:05 2009 No.3884532 I'll buy Higurashi like I was planning to anyway. If I go to prison it'll be an honor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 12:02:05 2009 No.3884543 >>3884505 This. Higurashi has CGs?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 12:02:26 2009 No.3884547 >>3882864 stop spamming ur shitty board on ａｎ o ｎ t ａｌｋ . com ok thanks and a hav a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 12:07:05 2009 No.3884571 Fuck yes. I wasn't going to buy Soul Link, but will get it now. Higurashi I would've bought regardless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 13:40:05 2009 No.3885048 Naked Satoko sprite with nipple.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:04:05 2009 No.3885123 Someone post the sprite of Satoko naked again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:05:05 2009 No.3885129 >>3885048 Sprite, not CG, it's stupid to censor Higurashi for drawings that barely resemble the human body

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:08:05 2009 No.3885139 >>3885129 Ryukishi was an idiot for even drawing somebody naked in first place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:08:05 2009 No.3885142 File: 109 KB, 624x480, a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3884505 >and replace Satoko’s naked sprite with the sprite where she covers herself with a towel

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:09:05 2009 No.3885145 >>3885139 That's why he doesn't do H, though with Umineko's graphics it may resemble a bit Tsukihime's, so maybe he should try adding CGs first

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:10:05 2009 No.3885149 File: 85 KB, 239x234, 1249413429678.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3885142

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:11:05 2009 No.3885153 >>3885142 I CAN'T FAP TO THIS!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:14:05 2009 No.3885166 File: 69 KB, 848x480, owow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3885142

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:15:05 2009 No.3885171 >>3885142 It's funny how in the Vn Satoko actually had visible boobs, in the anime she's just a flat-chested loli

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:16:05 2009 No.3885178 boobs > flat do not bother me, the world agreed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:16:05 2009 No.3885179 >>3885142 OK, who complained about this change.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:17:05 2009 No.3885182 >>3885171 If I remember right, she still had more chest than Rika in anime. Been a while since I watched it, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:17:05 2009 No.3885185 Fucking yankees need to grow out of their "nudity = porn, naked child = child porn" phase. It's embarrassing to everybody.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:19:05 2009 No.3885192 >>3885185 FUKK YEAH LET'S SEXUALIZE CHILDREN AT BIRTH, THAT'S SO NORMAL AND HEALTHY FOR TEH MAINDO AMIRITE

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:20:05 2009 No.3885200 IF YOU ARE NORMAL YOU DO NOT BELONG ON /jp/ that is all

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:20:05 2009 No.3885201

Just as an example of how fucked up the laws are, I (28) have pictures of myself naked in my family album, aged 5 or so. If I put them on the internet, I will be vanned for spreading child porn... Of myself.

It's basically a "thou shalt not make uptight people uncomfortable" law.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:22:05 2009 No.3885211 >>3885192 Nudity is not sexualization. Nudity is just nudity, and non-retarded cultures understand the difference.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:22:05 2009 No.3885213 >>3885201 Sup fags found some child porn pics on the internet. Suddenly cops came on got me, but wtf? I mean that's just some picture, right. I did not do anything wrong with that right? Not that somebody had to suffer for that ..... oh shiiiiit

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:26:05 2009 No.3885231

>>3885213

99% of "child porn" is not porn at all, it's just pictures of kids playing on a beach or something. Or drawings.

And even in actual CP, the "suffering" part was already done at the moment of creation. It's like if looking at a photo of a gunshot victim was illegal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:27:05 2009 No.3885240 >>3882893 Seconded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:27:05 2009 No.3885241 >>3885142 The towel is slightly hotter, due to the tease and the covered nipple. >>3885192 Is this post what one would call a "strawman"? I'm sure it's some kind of logical fallacy. Or I could just call it retarded?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:28:05 2009 No.3885243 File: 2 KB, 128x128, Cirno.gif.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] still not buying shit from them until they fucking put their stuff in boxes. 40 bucks for a fucking internet download with install restrictions and shit? no thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:31:05 2009 No.3885255 >>3885243 If it puts your mind at ease, there has been talk of boxes, although they haven't decided anything yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:31:05 2009 No.3885257 >>3885243 think of the 40$ as a donation

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:31:05 2009 No.3885258 >>3885201 >>3885231 Damn right

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:33:05 2009 No.3885263

>>3885231
The points made before me where just not approriate. Argue witht the 2D argument not that some 'yankees' are stupid.

Anyway this won't bring us to satori, the elites will have their child traffic from the east while the rest gets persecuted for nothing because every normal person dislikes child pornopraghy and they don't care if imaginary children or real. Easy angle to attack and get some feny laws through like herp internet censorhip derp

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:34:05 2009 No.3885267

The difficulty with child porn is the belief that if you're viewing it you're creating it which is sadly true most of the time if the articles I've read on the subject are true.

So the idea is that if CP is cracked down on hard it'll remove elements of the public that will harm children when given the chance. That's an inference that uses the squishy logic of all A's are B's therefore all B's are A's.

In the ultra scared modern society of 'children must be bubble wrapped for safety against a skinned knee' mentality people would prefer a thousand men that would never harm a child go to prison than allow one man who would harm a child go free.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:37:05 2009 No.3885272 >>3885243 This, a thousand times this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:38:05 2009 No.3885274 Speaking of Higurashi, does somebody have a link to the first game with the PS2 sprites, voices, and backgrounds? The one I have has the music loud as shit. Can't hear the voices.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 14:55:05 2009 No.3885313 >>3885274 http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3871732#p3875208 did you try that?

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:08:05 2009 No.3885354

>>3885267
This is true. America and a few other nations have created a culture of severe paranoia around the issue, and I don't think the average person would think someone who looked at loli was getting anything less than they deserved if they were thrown in jail, regardless of any wrongdoing.

It is also arguable that pictures are harmful, since they sexualize children and make it seem okay. I'm not saying that most people aren't able to distiguish between reality and fantasy, but if you look at sites like AT, you can see that they use words like lolicon and shotacon to self-justify themselves and delude themselves into thinking they're something different from pedophiles.

So it's unfortunately a bit more complicated. I personally think that it's really no different from violence in videogames, and you're not going to turn into a pedo from reading it.

But on the other hand, just look for a second at the doujins in Japan-they make it seem like nearly the only women worth fucking are virginal highschoolers (ie, not a SLUT) and also every girl is always screaming no but when you stick your dick in they fall in love.
This is not a healthy culture, and media can reinforce it.

Now, i think the censors are wrong, but I'm saying this here to give you a case for why the other side (or rational, intelligent people on the other side) think the way they do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:11:05 2009 No.3885361 >>3885274 I haven't, but I just did. Works perfectly, thanks.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:16:05 2009 No.3885376

＞But on the other hand, just look for a second at the doujins in Japan-they make it seem like nearly the only women worth fucking are virginal highschoolers (ie, not a SLUT) and also every girl is always screaming no but when you stick your dick in they fall in love.

Well, japanese porn is like that. This is not limited to 2D. Lots of sailor uniform cosplaying, and crying. I guess that's a cultural difference.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:26:05 2009 No.3885405

>>3885376
Exactly, exactly. Culture is sort of a self reinforcing thing-Japan has certain features they find traditionally attractive in women, and their porn emphasizes it (that's why we have retarded bimbos in american porn). The argument is that it also works the other way around-that the porn itself contributes to the way women are viewed.

And that's true to a certain extent--propaganda works all over the world, and people can't help but be influenced by what they see. People can also hold onto thier character and values, but not all are able to. It's like how people who aren't 12 years old use racial slurs saracastically or ironically, but then 12 year olds think that it means racism is awesome and acceptable.
Something like that, at any rate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:27:05 2009 No.3885411 I was going to buy it, but now I won't in fear of getting v&.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:30:05 2009 No.3885419 >>3885411 America doesn't care yet, and you can be sure 4chan will explode with the news the second the law looks like it might be changed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:31:05 2009 No.3885421 >>3885405 they'd be fine if they just put in big letters "this is fiction, retards. Don't try it IRL or you will get your ass fucked by black men for the next 10 years."

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:33:05 2009 No.3885426 >>3885421 They should put that warning on everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:34:05 2009 No.3885430 >>3885426 And no more censourship. I'm ok with this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:34:05 2009 No.3885431 >>3885421 Aren't we(Americans) already getting fucked by a black man for at least 3 more years?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:36:05 2009 No.3885434 >>3885431 not in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:38:05 2009 No.3885440 >>3885434 You know he's thinking about doing that right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:39:05 2009 No.3885445 File: 25 KB, 400x300, I need pictures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I NEED PICTURES PICTURES OF NAKED NANAMI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 16:35:05 2009 No.3885648 You're all going to prison http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Babies-Nick-Kelsh/dp/0140294848

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 19:29:05 2009 No.3886324 File: 22 KB, 350x502, head-pat.1254890068280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3885434 IN THE ASS.

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