/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

[Anonymous No.]

A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Visual Novel:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
English Patch (Partial):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
French Patch:
https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian Patch:
https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Huj (Arcueid Route):
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Huj Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3748986
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Huj Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Huj: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Huj to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
[Ex](CR29) [TYPE-MOON (Takeuchi Takashi, Kirihara Kotori)] Tsukihime Dokuhon (Tsukihime)

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[Anonymous No.]

>didn't fix my fuckup
op pls

[Anonymous No.]

why did mahouyo get an english version and not tsukihime?

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>>42026565
I've given up on nu-TM long ago. Though TM still might redeem itself with Satsuki's route, let's see.

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>>42029791
>English Huj (Arcueid Route):
>Melty Blood - Back Huj Alliance Nightmare Manga:
>Fate/Huj Ataraxia:
>Mahou Tsukai no Huj: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
>Haru to Tsuki to Huj to:
>>42029840
I didn't even notice.

What the fuck is a Huj anyways?

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>>42029866
Anime.

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>>42029866
Mahoutsukai no Yoru is Nasu's magnum opus. It's the world's treasure.

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>>42029866
Nasu's decisions are not dictated by logic, only autism.

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>>42029866
Thank Ufotable and aniplex

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Jesus christ, Ryujinx performs way better than Yuzu for some reason with Mahoyo. I feel retarded for not trying it earlier. I dunno why there's such a difference because Tsuki R had literally zero issues for me with Yuzu. On loonix here if it matters.

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any ways to make tsukihime bigger in window mode? default is way too big, but when i change properties to 640x480, it's too small.

[Anonymous No.]

she is so tiny

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>>42030069
mirin' his neck

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>>42029866
>Steam版を出すなら，多言語対応したいですね。でもこのゲームの場合，ただ翻訳するだけではちょっと。演出も合わせて調整しなくちゃならないけど，そんな余力はないという。でも英語と中国語くらいはなんとか……。
Kinoko-san is working very hard to achieve that. He did it with Mahoyo, he will deliver it with the red garden. Trust him.

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>>42029908
It really is. If Nasu delivers on Red Garden and Arc true, I think Tsuki R could potentially surpass Mahoyo, but as of now Mahoyo is his greatest achievement. It's just a joy to read in literally every single aspect.

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[Anonymous No.]

It's time.

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[Anonymous No.]

Being a mage in the Nasuverse sounds miserable. It's the anti-Harry Potter, where you'd hope to never get a message from Hogwarts.

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>>42030518
It's blown out of proportion, just lay low and it has no downsides

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>THE LAST MBTL DLC

The only thing that could quell my anger now is Arc single-handedly resolving the latest plot of FGO. It's only fair, a tooth for a tooth.

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Both Ushi and Dantes have over 60K views for the Japanese version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJaKLyKqxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF_zjTJ3eUo

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>>42030069
Fun-sized

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>>42030634
Most people complaining right?

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>>42030649
Negative feedback is still more ads watched anyway.

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>>42029880
>I've given up on nu-TM long ago. Though TM still might redeem itself with Satsuki's route, let's see.

Remember back in 2011 when 90%+ of y'all were ravenous Nasu fanboys who went nuts if you criticized him in any way? I member. What happened to make the fanbase turn against him since then? He hasn't changed his position on anything, he's basically doing the same shit as he always has.

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>>42030655
>y'all

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>>42030655
Success breeds jealousy.

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>>42030655
I didn't get into Type Moon until december of 2014 where I was watching some melty blood clips.

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>>42030655
>Iwakami: It started off with Aniplex working with Type-Moon to bring Fate to anime form with Fate/Zero. And not just the Fate series. In 2007, we did The Garden of Sinners movies. After we were done with Fate/Zero, we were talking with Takeshi Takeuchi of Type-Moon about a new way to develop Fate, and a smartphone game was one of the ideas that we came up with. So Type-Moon started working on Fate/Grand Order as one of the official numbered titles in the Fate series.

>Takeuchi: Many anime studios wanted to make Fate/Zero into an anime, but as far as actually doing that, I couldn't feel very excited about the idea. It was a story that came into being out of the love and respect that Urobuchi-san had for Fate/stay night, and was designed to deepen the enjoyment a reader could get out of Fate. Adapting it into an anime might mean stepping on that love, and I didn't want to make something that didn't capture the feeling of the original novels.

>Nasu: Many anime fans want there to be a lot of cute bishoujo characters in the work, and while they work hard to meet those needs, Iwakami, an important producer at Aniplex, wasn't satisfied just by doing that. I suggested that he tackle Fate/Zero, a dark and serious story full of raw emotion. He had the resolve, and that's how they ended up adapting Fate/Zero.

There seems to have been a clear goal and concept in mind for the whole Nasuverse thing when it was just the early stuff like Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime, and it was a mom and pop doujin circle with a strong cult following, but now ever since the Fate/Zero adaptation and especially FGO, Sony and it's money and producers are heavily involved in basically everything Type-Moon. They're arguably still in the process of transforming the brand into another soulless cash cow hype beast thing that can be retooled as necessary to maximize profit and mass appeal, and where voice actors and the music style can just be swapped out with the ones they prefer from their own labels, and that'll all still get by on branding and fanboy culture surrounding the property where the new age fans brought in from FGO just kind of don't give a shit as long as the designs and action set pieces are flashy.

Type-Moon's OG core people have very clearly lost a great deal of creative control over their own franchise regardless of how good or bad Nasu's ideas are these days anyway. When he writes stuff like Avalon La Fae, drawn out as it is, it's almost like there's a self contained within the story arc actual sense of purpose to the development of the scenario, but that's a pretty rare once in a decade occurrence it seems where it kind of helps when you return a bit to core concepts of a major characters storyline that have never really been done in that form and that people actually got into the franchise for to begin with and have been waiting years to see.

When one of his writers pointed out this contradicts lore he already wrote and sold in material books Nasu went "the FGO villain retconned that with his magic"

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>>42030688
Which means they being a doujin group is either meaningless or completely false.
Well, at least I can drop my time investment without feeling I still need to research more.

[Anonymous No.]

The minute I saw that Saber was in Type Lumina I wrote it off. Glad my intuition is once again proven correct. Companies these days are so predictable.

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The only way to redeem this shit is if we get every single last MB character in TL even if it takes a decade, otherwise it's impossible to look at that roster and not go "That gacha cunt should've been Wallachia"

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>>42030655
have you actualyl READ fgo?

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>>42030688
There was a change during around CCC where TM's mindset became more loose. And I think they just kind of started to be cool with it.

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I really didn't understand what was going on when Aoko finally activated the Fifth.
I got that the red shadow hunts anyone who gets true magic and that she was almost reaching the Root but any other implication was hidden behind Nasu's flowery language and the probably shitty translation.
What did I miss?

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>>42031098
You missed the next two mahoyo VNs that Nasu has yet to release.

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>>42031098
there is a lot of shit in mahoyo that doesn't make any sense because it was written with two sequels in mind that never fucking released. People have been saying this for years but there's always some retard claiming "mahoyo is complete". Now you can judge it for yourself

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>>42031117
>>42031266
Mahoyo is complete. Getting more is just bonus but don't expect it.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally, Aoko gets BTFO in full HD.

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>>42031266
>the neck injury is NEVER explained after getting brought up multiple times

[Anonymous No.]

Do I read Mahoyo now or wait for a patch that fixes all errors?

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>>42031421
Please wait for the Hollow Moon patch to fix all the typos in 2036 sir.

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>>42029386
Mahoyo is "technically" an older story, but Tsukihime is what pretty much everyone read first, and unlike with Fate, which can just be read whenever, there's an actual connection between the two. So I would suggest you do what everyone else did and read Tsukihime first.

Until a time comes when Mahoyo is "complete", I think it's vital that you experience those two scenes with Aoko in Tsukihime beforehand.

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Aoko made me cry

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[Anonymous No.]

>>42031554
Peak chuuni. Everything about this scene is perfect.

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>>42031280
It's blatantly not though. Aoko's characterization in Tsukihime is still worlds apart from how she is at the end of Mahoyo. There's very clearly still pivotal life events that need to happen for her to become the fateful woman that Shiki meets.

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>>42031580
>Aoko's characterization in Tsukihime is still worlds apart from how she is at the end of Mahoyo.
Not really. She gets over the tough magus LARP at the end of Mahoyo.

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>>42030655
It’s clear FGO broke his brain and all he cares about is FGO at end of the day. Everything has to lead back to FGO and the whole Nasuverse revolves around it now. He just prefers writing about that over anything else these days. It’s a shame since TsukiR was popular and had a growing audience for Melty that was ruined with his need to keep writing about FGO and how everything ties back into that over letting Tsukihime stand on its own two feet.

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>>42030582
you need a sugar daddy.

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>>42030688
>Nasu went "the FGO villain retconned that with his magic"
It was Nasu who did, he just blamed Goetia because he's shameless.

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>>42030655

>he's basically doing the same shit as he always has.

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>still crying about not danganronpa and the jap dog in kusoge blood
You faggots are fucking pathetic

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>>42031627
Let's be real, it's not that much worse than solving every inconsistency with "different worlds lmaooo"
Zero being an alternate timeline is the dumbest shit in the entire Fate series

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Want to go in tsukihime blind, but I don't want to mess up the route order. Can I really not fuck it up or should I just follow a map?

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>>42031644
If you find yourself doing Hisui's route before completing Akiha's route make a different choice in any save point you have made.

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>>42031644
just go arc>ciel>akiha>hisui>kohaku>Satsuki

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>>42031627
>>42031641
>Zelretch this
>Goetia that

Solomon's boys are naughty.

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>>42031627
It's still baffling that people don't realise that was a joke.

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These adds are basically bonus fanservice collab characters, so why are you surprised? Extra got this with Arc and Shiki, CCC with Rin and Archer (FSN) plus others. It's not part of the story.

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>>42031644
At first you can only go Ciel or Arc, after finishing one or the other you can do Akiha or Hisui, and Kohaku can only be done after Hisui.
So yeah the most standard progression is Arc>Ciel>Akiha>Hisui>Kohaku.
Personally I mix towards Arc>Akiha>Ciel to make it feel less repetitive.

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>>42031666
People still take the joke of Zelretch with FSN seriously even with his (lol) in the interview. It's autism.

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I started with remake and now reading original
Akiha is SO much better in remake
Original akiha with no voice acting is just so bland.
I don't feel anything reading episodes with her

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>>42031592
Yes, really.
> She gets over the tough magus LARP at the end of Mahoyo.
She doesn't though. She takes Soujuurou to visit her grandfather fully resigned to the idea that he'll be getting his memories erased. It's obvious that she's secretly happy that this didn't take place, but part of her is still somewhat upset. She's very much still a mage and taking her duty as one seriously. This is completely removed from how she just casually and sincerely tells Shiki exactly who and what she is. She and Alice were still set on being fairly traditional mages at the end of Mahoyo, protecting their personal territory, but by the time Tsukihime occurs Aoko has, inexplicably within the context of Mahoyo as it is, become an itinerant.
And that's only part of it. The sanctity of life she shows reverence to in her almost violent reaction when Shiki cuts down the tree is completely out of place for the character we see at the end of Mahoyo. This can't be explained by anything that happens within the as-of-now story of Mahoyo. If Soujuurou got killed right in front of her, and she brought him back to life five minutes later with no real consequences, that would be the end of it, and Aoko would have no reason to react the way she does to Shiki and his eyes.
And there's also the more mundane, but still important fact that she's willing to restart shit with Touko just to help this poor little child whom she just met by making his existence just a little less nightmarish. This kind of selflessness is not possessed by Aoko at the end of Mahoyo, not yet.

Also it's beyond obvious that Soujuurou is not alive by the time Tsukihime occurs, and that's a story that very clearly needs to be told, not just written off as "well he just died lol".

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>>42031687
She comes off a bit softer in the original. Apparently in developing the remake Nasu was very specific about keeping her tsun tsun at the start of the game.

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>>42031611
do we even know if that was nasu's idea
it's possible that shit was a kamone idea and he was just like "yeah sure whatever"
my impression has been that kamone has been the one pushing super hard to have fateshit in melty, like nasu originally didn't even want Saber in but kamone begged him to and they already had her more or less made for a prototype of a fate fighter

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>>42031702
It's obvious that they're using the concepts they came up with when they tried pitching TM a Fate fighting game before TL was greenlit. Both the new characters are old FGO characters.

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>>42031701
>no early mornign shiki bullying
disappointed

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>>42031737
You're probably right. That pretty handily explains the mystery of why Ushi of all people is in.

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So when Aoko brought the dead cat to Gramps, sobbing and demanding that he bring it back to life, did he decide then and there to make her the successor to the Fifth, purely because he realized from her tantrum over the cat that she would be very easily emotionally manipulated into recklessly using it, whereas someone like Touko, upon realizing what it actually was, would be far more hesitant and cautious?
what a dickhead

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>no arc akiha episode
disappointed
Well considering how akiha is in original it wouldn't be such a great show anyway

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>>42031778
What would be the point of waiting until she finishes middle school to start the training?

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>>42031799
What does that have to do with anything I said.

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>>42031795
You mean this?

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>>42031808
oh it is later in original i guess

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>>42031802
Why would he continue to raise Touko as his successor for 6(?) more years if he already decided on Aoko an that time?

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>>42031821
It's just easy to miss. You need to go back to the mansion after school.

[Anonymous No.]

Please do not badmouth my queen Akiha

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>>42031862
I went to search for arc
thank you
Almost missed it

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>>42031687
Akiha has always been my favorite, but going back to the original VN is painful since remakiha makes her OG counterpart look like a fucking cartoon character. Remakiha better represents the fearsome ice cold queen Shiki and Kohaku complain about in the original while avoiding the weird hostility and bitchiness OG Akiha had. Also the more understated brocon side makes her loving side sweeter

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Such a waste they didn't add young Zelretch and Headmaster and other people who went on funding shit later in Solomon flashback of the movie, since are his students. Honestly curious about the headmaster design.

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>>42031909
Who describes their own dick as "grotesque"?

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>>42032157
Me

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>>42031637
>tsuki r in the left hand
Man this didn't age well

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>>42032239

I mean this was made in 2018

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>>42030688
Type Moon essentially is Sony's subsidiary.

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>>42033660
How did they end up like this?

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>>42031478
Not this anon (or the one he replied to), but KnK wouldn't hurt to watch either, right?

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>>42033872
NTA, but I don't think there's a need to, but then again I don't think Tsukihime is going to make you see things all that different. Aoko is there just for the prequel.
That being said, I wonder what's it like to watch KnK only after reading Mahoyo.

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>>42031702
Could be both for sure. Good point didn’t think about it.

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>>42033789
https://youtu.be/su44dOAYQz8

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>>42031687
So wrong. This sprite is better than anything the remake has done with her. She’s way more charming in the OG game. She’s more of a bitch in the remake.

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Surprised no one posted this. Mahoyo sold 110k copies already. Good results so far https://twitter.com/mahoyo_game/status/1602248638276567040?s=46&t=cgidjPu1laGgN7umJ4Anbw

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>>42034083
>worldwide
Considering this was the release for both PS4/Switch on the JP market as well, I'd love to see a breakdown.

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>>42034083
So... Mahoyo sequel confirmed?

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>>42034255
Right after Red Garden...if they don't split Red Garden into two parts.

[Anonymous No.]

why didn't saber just use the holy hand grenade of Antioch to kill berserker?

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>>42034083
VN market: first 7days sales score is almost everything

First week, 7days Tsuki remake sales 130k (package) + 80k (download contents) Fate/Stay Night PC sales 150k, Fate/Stay Night realta nua 250k

Total, Fate/Stay Night VN : 200kFate/Stay Night HD Realta Nua : 300kTsukihime remake: 280k

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>>42034083
Good result so far?
First week sales
Fate SN 150,000
Fate SN Realta nua 250,000
Tsuki re 140,000 (his is only for the retail version. No download sales )

mahoyo HD 110,000 download and retail

[Anonymous No.]

This would have been a good time to be a Tsuki/Mahoyo fan if not for the last Melty DLC.

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>>42031695
>She and Alice were still set on being fairly traditional mages at the end of Mahoyo
lmao no. Did you just completely skip the epilogue scene retard? Aoko finds the memory wipe book in the library which turns to be the same book Alice was reading earlier in the game. She puts it away and doesn't care about the magus autism.

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>>42034660
It is to be kept in mind that this is a rerelease and a translation.

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>>42034660
Aoko's gacha in FGO will make more money.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been listening to duel/one-on-one, flower/finality and manifestation/great three almost on loop for the past 3 days
I can't begin to imagine how much the OG Mahoyo readers had to suffer these 10 years

[Anonymous No.]

Tsuki far side routes remake will be flop
Tsuki farside remake will sales under 100000 copies

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>>42034752
Not if it includes Arc's True.

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>>42034752
Game will sell a bazillion copies on the basis of Akiha's erotic body alone.

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>>42034660
>implying 100k+ first week sales for a weirdo kinetic visual novel is bad
salesfags aren't this retarded right? How many VNs get 100k sales in this day and age?

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>>42034899
I think they are less salesfags and more FGOtards shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

Let me guess, Nasu never elaborated on this

[Anonymous No.]

O lord of the sun's rays!

One who bestows all wisdom,

majesty

and strength!

O shining lord...

My heart,
My thoughts
And my accomplishments to be measured.

Come,

You who created the moon and the stars.

My deeds.
My end.

Behold,

My Spenta Armaiti!

As I unleash this final arrow.
LET MY VERY BEING BE SHREDDED INTO DUST!

STELLA!!!

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>>42035035
>Alice stopping pointless boring infodump upsets lorefags 10 years later
based

[Anonymous No.]

I sometimes think there is people with both fgog and tmg threads opened side by side and sometimes post something that should be on the other thread.

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>>42029791
>Fate/Huj Ataraxia
What is a huj?

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>>42035193
I've done this a couple of times, but with /vn/ instead of /fgog/

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>>42035210
One day, someone will finally fix the OP maybe

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else hear Aoko's seiyuu voicing the red shadow?
https://vocaroo.com/17N7i5n3zMKu

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>>42035236
I think it's plausible.

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>>42035236
Btw, if anyone is interested, you can decode voice lines (.opus files in "stream" folder) with this
https://github.com/vgmstream/vgmstream

[Anonymous No.]

Digits decide how many days until everyone finally admits Mahoyo was never really that good

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>>42035588
>loli vampire
Why did they even think it was good idea?
I miss old Tsukihime when the only female vampire was Arcueid.

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>>42035627
>disliking loli vampire
homosexual detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>42035627
She's in, as of now, 1 of what are about to be 6 routes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42035627
>only female vampire was Arcueid
You forgot someone.

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>>42035703
Oh well, there was also a Sion. But she wasn't in Tsukihime though

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't it sad, Sacchin?

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>>42034083
>doesn't even manage to exceed the sales of a remake of a two decades old game despite getting a worldwide release and months of hype
I wonder how Nasu's ego will be able to handle this, since his magnum opus already flopped two times. Will he stop writing VN's for good?

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>>42035627
>normalfag
Come on. Nothing wrong with loli.

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>42035786
Are salesfags retarded? Tsuki R had like 3x the hype what the fuck

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I can't believe an old game sold less than a new game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42035847
its over...

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>>42035748
She's not in Melty Blood either, lol!

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>>42035627
>>42035748

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>>42035847
are type-moon fans so desperate for contents that they consider low effort remake (not different than what nintendo have been pulling for a decade) as a new game?

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>>42035925
What do I do to go see Sacchin in the restaurant? I picked that option and Tohno went around wandering somewhere else. But according to the flowchart there is another path.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42035960
You need more Sacchin affection points.

[Anonymous No.]

>low effort remake
just go back to the fgo thread

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>>42035974
the "remake" literally had half of it's routes removed, and the production quality is not even as good as mahoyo which released almost a decade earlier. how can you justify that shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>EOP that doesn't play any VNs, hasn't played Tsuki R and probably not even Mahoyo thinks his opinion matters
lol

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>>42035971
Oh I see!

[Anonymous No.]

Ignore the trolls, don't reply to it. Leave it alone and it will die on it's own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42036030
How powerful are trolls in TM works? Are they some kind of phantasmal species?

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>>42035960
Buy Red Garden?

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>>42035997
>the "remake" literally had half of it's routes removed
Ciel and Arcs routes are actually different this time around. Also a lot less reused assets, higher quality on everything, longer routes.
>production quality
Bullshit, the only difference is that they animated a lot more shit in Mahoyo, but quality-wise it's all top notch.

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>>42034680
What does that have to do with anything I said? Did you skip the fucking ending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42036013
>process to call people out as soon as anon realize that he's getting fucked in the ass by the same for company for several years/decade
how did type moon managed to create such fanatics despite releasing absolutely trash contents for years?
>>42036086
thanks but i've played it as soon as it dropped. the arcueid route is barely what i would label as "different", i concede regarding the ciel route though. still don't warrant being labeled as a "brand new game", let alone as any sort of actual good contents since besides the ciel route, it's mostly low effort rehash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42036166
The epilogue/post-credits scene directly refutes your claim that "she [aoko] and Alice were still set on being fairly traditional mages at the end of Mahoyo". Read it again slowly and maybe I'll take your opinion seriously next time.

[Anonymous No.]

No... not the MuramasaCHADs...!

[Anonymous No.]

>jpg compressed a bazillion times
>not the game's native resolution
>not even a 16:9 aspect ratio
lol

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>>42036189
>rehash
That word doesn't mean what you think it means. To begin with no assets were reused, there are a LOT more tracks available. The story is the same - because it is remake - but it includes a lot more characters and - to reiterate - it utilizes a greater variety of background images.

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>>42036234
Don't bother arguing with a LARPer shitposter. Calling Tsuki R "low effort" when it is better produced than 99.9% VNs (that 0.1% is like what, Mahoyo and maybe Deep One?) is just blatantly insane.

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>>42036189
why do ESLs always have such unimaginably shit takes
any time you see a post with such shitty and fractured grammar, it's always accompanied by the most stupid and asinine opinions conceivable
you'd think that eventually you'd come across just one who, despite their tenuous grasp of English, was able to express something intelligent and insightful
but I guess all the ESLs who aren't mouthbreathers and possess the capability to say something intelligent and insightful don't easily betray themselves as ESL
my thermostat has a higher IQ than you, you fucking ape, and it's December

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>>42036234
first, we can agree that it's not a new game, right? second, they literally removed half of the routes, what you mentioned is the bare minimum for a remake that got in development for more than one decade. how can you look at the "recent" type moon VN's release, see that their latest games are literally a remaster and a remake and say without any kind of shame that this is not low effort contents?

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>>42036189
You can't even type in English and I'm supposed to take your opinion seriously? lmao

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>>42036215
That has nothing to do with what I was talking about you fucking retard.

Maybe you can't read, but there was a subordinate clause behind that bit you meme-arrowed.
>at the end of Mahoyo, protecting their personal territory
That whole sentence has nothing to do with your stupid strawman, it is referring to the fact that in Tsukihime/Melty Blood, Aoko is not some mage rooted in one place, protecting her territory. She's a wanderer. This is not something conveyed at the end of Mahoyo, the direct opposite is implied, as Aoko and Alice are resolved to continue defending their territory against Touko and anyone else, if need be.

And I literally stated earlier in the post that Aoko was pretty clearly happy that her grandfather didn't erase Soujuurou's memories, so I have no idea why you think you can get away with this stupid strawman you've concocted. You have zero arguments against the rest of the post, so you've elected instead to disingenuously misrepresent a single clause in a desperate bid to try to disqualify the whole argument. You're pathetic.

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>>42036379
In this post, >>42031695, you said:
>She and Alice were still set on being fairly traditional mages at the end of Mahoyo
This is completely fucking wrong and the extra clause at the end doesn't change that. They both clearly abandon the traditional mage path at the end of the story. If you can't read and understand basic things like that, I'm not sure why I should bother with the rest of your opinion.

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>>42036399
No, I said
>She and Alice were still set on being fairly traditional mages at the end of Mahoyo, protecting their personal territory, but by the time Tsukihime occurs Aoko has, inexplicably within the context of Mahoyo as it is, become an itinerant.
You disingenuous retard. You're blatantly misinterpreting what I said for the sake of your "argument", though you don't really have one, so it's more just for the sake of you trying to save face. Like I said, you're pathetic.

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>>42036341
>first, we can agree that it's not a new game, right?
It is not a "new" game, but the script has been modified, more characters have been added, all art assets are new and the number of tracks is 6-7x the original.
>they literally removed half of the routes
I am sure they could have crammed the rest of the routes using the existing assets the same way they did in the OG, but is this what we want? I don't really care about a novel cramming as much stuff and doing as many low-effort routes (and let's be honest, a lot of the OG routes were this due to budget constrains) as possible, just to hit a target. I am fine with paying more for better quality art and music.

[Anonymous No.]

>comparing fsn sales with mahoyo
If nasu expects mahoyo to sell same as fsn and tsukiR he is crazy

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>>42036434
Please elaborate on what this secret meaning is that somehow only you know and is not what you actually typed. Again for the 1000x time, Alice and Aoko are not traditional mages by the end of Mahoyo. Not even close.

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>>42036451
He didn't even expect Tsuki R to sell as much as it did. If I recall correctly, they were expecting like 100,000 in sales.

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>>42034083
wow that is way more than i thought it would sell. there was zero coverage or hype for this game. the fact that it sold that much is a big surprise.

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>>42036341
>they literally removed half of the routes
Who cares? The original release of Tsukihime was just near-side too, just because the vast majority of people read it years after release when it was complete doesn't change that. And the Tsukihime Remake, even with just two routes, is still roughly as long as the original in its entirety.

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>>42036489
I already explained everything here >>42036379

But you're a disingenuous shitstain who is more interested in turning this into a petty semantic argument than actually discussing anything.

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>>42036536
You didn't explain anything. You're just ignoring the fact that you didn't understand the post-credits scene and are dodging it. You can just admit that you're wrong on that one point. It's fine and not a big deal.
>the direct opposite is implied
Nothing about the ending of Mahoyo implies that Aoko or Alice will be in the same place forever. This is something you made up. Nothing bothering with the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

What a horrible thread. But stay strong /tmg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42036655
Blame Fate Grand Shit.

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>>42036564
Yes I did. You ignored it.
>You're just ignoring the fact that you didn't understand the post-credits scene and are dodging it
No, this is a fucking strawman that you've created. I'm gonna Barney this up as much as I can, and if you still insist on this pilpul it'll tell me everything I need to know.

First off, I addressed the whole issue with Soujuurou's memory prior to this sentence you're kvetching about, so I have no idea how you can so flagrantly misinterpret what I meant unless you're doing so willfully.
>She and Alice were still set on being fairly traditional mages at the end of Mahoyo
This is the one clause you take exception to. You seem to think Alice and Aoko making this one exception and not erasing Soujuurou's memories automatically disqualifies them from being "fairly traditional mages". That's fine. I don't really agree though, and it's not at all what I was referring to when I said that anyway. When I refer to them as "fairly traditional mages", I'm referring to the fact that they're rooted in a territory and operating in secrecy. This is worlds apart from how Aoko is in Tsukihime, a wanderer who brazenly and sincerely tells a young boy she just met that she's a Magician.

>Nothing about the ending of Mahoyo implies that Aoko or Alice will be in the same place forever
They literally say they'll be ready to fight Touko if she comes back. And there's nothing that indicates Aoko is planning to leave.

Do you have any sort of argument for how and why the Aoko we see at the end of Mahoyo is the same as the Aoko we see at the beginning of Tsukhime? Or are you still deadset on "arguing" with me about the meaning of something that I typed?

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>>42036655
Can Kageaki kill servants?

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>>42036727
>You seem to think Alice and Aoko making this one exception and not erasing Soujuurou's memories automatically disqualifies them from being "fairly traditional mages"
It quite literally does. It directly goes against one of the fundamentals of being a mage. Nasuverse 101.
>I'm referring to the fact that they're rooted in a territory and operating in secrecy
So is Kiritsugu a traditional magus now? This describes him.
>And there's nothing that indicates Aoko is planning to leave.
Her stay with Alice is obviously a temporary deal as explained at the beginning of the game because she's still learning magic fundamentals. There's zero reason to think that she'll stick around forever. And obviously Soujuurou is hinted to part with them one day.

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>>42036774
>There's zero reason to think that she'll stick around forever. And obviously Soujuurou is hinted to part with them one day.
Almost like....the story isn't over....woah....

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>>42036791
Ambiguity is the spice of life.

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>>42036774
>It quite literally does. It directly goes against one of the fundamentals of being a mage. Nasuverse 101.
Is there a mage that even fallows that rule anymore?

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>>42036795
I don't know why you're so deadset on denying something Nasu himself said.
Even if they never happen because he's a lazy nigger, he very blatantly said that he wrote Mahoyo with two sequels in mind.

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>>42036826
I don't really care what Nasu says. The story itself is basically done with the only exception of lacking details about Soujuurou. The rest would just be bonus. If he does every somehow write a new story, that would be great but I'm not interested in some half-assed part 2 that only exists to clarify some handful of (mostly unimportant) ambiguities in the original.

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>>42036810
One of Nasu's favorite themes is tradition clashing with the new times so not really.

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>>42036838
>The story itself is basically done
It blatantly is not.

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>>42036850
When you put it that way, it makes sense.

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>>42036855
All main plot threads are pretty much wrapped up. "I want to know more about X" doesn't justify a sequel existing. It's not like Tsuki R which is obviously missing a bunch of stuff right now and needs at least Red Garden to be complete.

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>>42036838
>I don't really care what Nasu says
This isn't a subjective interpretation, it's a statement of fact. You can say that you think the story stands on its own, but to say that it's "complete" is a straight up lie.

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>>42036891
>All main plot threads are pretty much wrapped up
Ah yes, the consequences of using the Fifth Magic to bring someone back to life was "pretty much wrapped up".

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>>42036913
Of all the things you could have picked, you picked something extremely unimportant. Obviously the most likely outcome is that Soujuurou eventually dies one day. The opening scene with the cats hints this. There's nothing more that needs to be said here.

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>>42036913
>Mahoyo 2 should be set in 2121

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>>42036891
>All main plot threads are pretty much wrapped up
>Nasu first revealed that their recent Mahō Tsukai no Yoru game has two sequels in the works, and that the the series's story "starts in earnest" with the second game.
Main plot hasn't even started, retard.

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>>42036909
>>42036936
>taking Nasu's lies seriously
How many times do we have to go through this again?

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>>42036924
>a main character dying
>something extremely unimportant
>There's nothing more that needs to be said here.
do you not understand how absolutely silly you come across

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>>42036442
Ciel with her umbrella makes me think of that dumb Rihanna song from back in the day.

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>>42036951
So by your logic tsukihime isn't finished until Shiki dies (for real) on screen. Way to go retard.

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>>42036936
But anon is right. If "real plot" didn't even start in the first game that means plot of first game was finished. Similar how Dark Six is sequel to Tsukihime. The events of Arc route set in motion Dark Six events - serious business about DAA and Type-Moon.

[Anonymous No.]

The bonus scenario at the end of Mahoyo is set after the second game and makes a ton of references to events we know nothing about.

[Anonymous No.]

Dies Irae CHADs... Save us...

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>>42036965
If Arcueid or Ciel or Akiha showed up in some work set a decade or so after Tsukihime and had radically different characterization from how they were shown in Tsukihime, then yes.
Also Tsukihime 2 has always been an idea Nasu has had floating around, so I don't know what you're trying to prove.

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>>42036990
Wait, I'm going to stop you right here.
>If Arcueid or Ciel or Akiha showed up in some work set a decade or so after Tsukihime and had radically different characterization
Why the fuck would this hypothetically happening require a dramatic Shiki death scene and some kind of new Tsukihime story? How is this even related?
>Tsukihime 2 has always been an idea Nasu has had floating around
Yes just like how I wish I was billionaire.

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>>42037006
>Why the fuck would this hypothetically happening require a dramatic Shiki death scene and some kind of new Tsukihime story? How is this even related?
Are you stupid? Who shows up at the beginning of Tsukihime? Do you not even remember what this discussion was about?

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>>42036981
Heh. Epilogue of Tsukihime.

[Anonymous No.]

Stage 1: Denial
Stage 2: Anger
Stage 3: Bargaining
Stage 4: Depression
Stage 5: Acceptance

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>>42037022
I'm trying to tell you that you make literally no sense. After the events of Tsukihime, Shiki presumably drops dead from a heart attack in his 20s or 30s with a smile on your face. You don't need some scene for this or for it to be spelled out directly to you. Just because some other Tsukihime character might show up somewhere else (wait a second, isn't Arc in extra?) doesn't mean that somehow this requires some sort of dramatic death scene for Shiki. I mean, what? It doesn't make any sense at all. The same applies to Aoko and Soujuurou. Ambiguity is a part of storytelling. Maybe the 5th magic shit lasts a really long time and Souji lives a happy, long life. Or maybe he's fucking dead. It's up to you to decide. That's the point.

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>>42036985
>no Dies Irae spammer in Fate threads anymore
RIP

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't been keeping up with the tard wars ITT. Who's winning?

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>>42034255
i would say this could mean tsuki remake translation is more likely

[Anonymous No.]

Stop spoiling Mahoyo bros. I’m reading it comfortably every night.

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>>42037104
Aoko dies(a virgin)

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>>42037041
The Tsukihime epilogue serves to wrap up the game thematically by ending where it began and the important thing is that Shiki is about to die rather than the events that just occurred (although I still want to see Tsukihime 2).
The Mahoyo episode literally introduces a new character and teases a bunch of events. They're not comparable.

[Anonymous No.]

Realistically, canonically speaking, how much sex does Alice have?

[Anonymous No.]

Good morning, /tmg/!

[Anonymous No.]

That’s why Shiki will always be the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037126
Every day with Soujuurou

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>>42037126
enough to rebuild the Meinster bloodline and fill all the mansion's rooms

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037120
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037126
everyday with Touko

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>>42037132

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>>42037133
>author isn't Tohno Akiha
One job.

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>>42037060
see >>42031695
You don't seem to understand the fact that Mahoyo's initial draft was written in 1996, well before Tsukihime, and thus the character we see in Tsukihime was written with all the events that transpired in Mahoyo in mind.
Soujuurou is clearly dead by the start of Tsukihime, and he clearly passed in such a way that it profoundly affected Aoko. She could have easily used her Magic to undue what Shiki had done, with a whimsical smile on her face, but that's not what happens. She smacks him, grabs him by the face and tells him to never do that shit again. It's obvious that she's experienced the disastrous and tragic consequences of her own power, and she wants to save this child from treading the same path that she did.
If you think that's something not worth telling, that's your opinion. But it's a shitty one.

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>>42037150
Old and busted.
>>42037132
New hotness.

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>>42037173
>Soujuurou is clearly dead by the start of Tsukihime
Complete headcanon. You don't know if this is true or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037198
Play her arcade mode in Type Lumina

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>>42037132
It’s been a long time Dr. boobs. Good morning.

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>>42037201
That doesn't indicate that either.

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>>42037198
>>42037201
It’s a Steins;Gate situation where she has to pretend/think that but he’s actually alive by himself in the mountains again or something else. Deny the world of his existence or something like that.

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>>42037207
Yeah, it does. She brings up fucking Waver, but doesn't mention Soujuurou at all. He's not around anymore.

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>>42037240
No you low IQ retard. Of course she doesn't mention Soujuurou because that would ruin the ambiguity of the ending of Mahoyo. Nasu is dumb sometime, but he's not that stupid. That doesn't mean "oh he must be dead then".

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>>42037240
Nasu is saving his fate for Mahoyo 2. Trust the plan.

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[Anonymous No.]

When Aoko says she has a 'keep' at the end of Clocktower 2015, I doubt she's talking about a dead man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037280
cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037240

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037293
She's talking about Tohno Shiki

[Anonymous No.]

Tsikihime isn't direct sequel to Mahoyo
Melty Blood isn't direct sequel to Mahoyo
Same how Fate/Zero isn't direct sequel to F/SN
Nasu did this move thousand times. Non of F/SN routes leads to Archer
Few decades ago people believe KnK was prequel to Tsukihime
Five +- years ago everyone and their mothers thought FSN and Tsukihime are the same worlds. Until Nasu invented Human Order. Everything was pure headcanon
Your headcanons are pointless and weak
You can't prove me wrong

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>>42037310
This cat knows.

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>>42037251
>Of course she doesn't mention Soujuurou because that would ruin the ambiguity of the ending of Mahoyo
What ambiguity? You already agreed that, both as a consequence and because the story practically screams it at you, that he's doomed to die.
>That doesn't mean "oh he must be dead then".
Yeah, it does. If he wanted to keep it "ambiguous", she could have said something to the effect of "Oh, and how could I forget..." or "There's one person I forgot." She doesn't do that though. It's a blatant omission with no ambiguity whatsoever.
>Nasu is dumb sometime, but he's not that stupid
No, he's not. But you are. He's pretty clearly hinting at Soujuurou's fate here, without flatout spoiling it. I don't know why you're so deadset on denying this, even before this happened this was basically an open secret that everyone agreed upon.

[Anonymous No.]

>Having issues with Tsukihime Remake, almost with all new stuff
>JOPs cope that you didnt read it
>Read bootleg translation of Arc's route, didnt liked it
>Mahotsukai that some JOPs said had weaker writing than other Nasu works finally gets translation
>Read it and its perfect
I always knew how low nu-TM fanbase has fallen but now I just cant believe you are still here after being treated with shit since 2012

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037321
>that he's doomed to die.
...but we don't know when. That's the ambiguity idiot. I'm not even bothering with the rest of your low IQ spiel.

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>>42037310
It's all happening in the same universe and all the stories are interconnected with each other
>but X contradict Y
Your inability to follow events and patterns is neither mine, nor Nasu's problem.

[Anonymous No.]

Nasu literally said he had more plans for Mahoyo and all the open plot threads confirm this, how many mental gymnastics do you need to say it was all fake and the intentional end of Mahoyo was how it ended?

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>>42037331
>some JOPs said had weaker writing
Literally who? Virtually everyone has said for years that Mahoyo has some of Nasu's strongest writing.

[Anonymous No.]

The main reason why Aoko is SAD in Tsukihime is because Alice is fated girl for Soujuurou and he fucks her 24/7 in comfy mansion.

[Anonymous No.]

So if we assume that he'll start working on Mahoyo 2 directly after Red Garden (if that doesn't get split), when can we expect the release date? 2032?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037335
>I'm not even bothering with the rest of your low IQ spiel.
Seems like your calling card, to run away from the argument and never present any evidence or counterargument of your own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037365
Takeuchi and Nasu have to go on a quest to convince Tsukurimonoji to come back first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037342
t. Narita

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>>42037367
Your headcanon is not real and your garbage "arguments" are not real either. If you can't even understand the discussion, I'm not going to engage with you seriously. The ambiguity about Soujuurou's fate is "when" dumbfuck. Does he croak in 5 years, 20 years, 50? It makes a big difference. Now think on that a bit and try again later.

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>>42037365
Turns out they were silently working on it all this time and release it 1 year after red garden, in 2025.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037373
>Deep One sequel is in production hell
>because Tsukuri is anonymously working on Mahoyo 2
I want to believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037399
FGO takes all of Nasu's time, please understand

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>>42037391
"Headcanon" is a term used exclusively by brainlets incapable of formulating any sort of analysis. If you think my interpretation of her characterization is flawed and wrong, then explain why and present a counter hypothesis.
>The ambiguity about Soujuurou's fate is "when" dumbfuck
Then it's not really ambiguous, it's inevitable. And if his fate is inevitable, rather than ambiguous, it's a story that merits being told. And if it's going to be told, when do you think it's going to take place? Before or after Tsukihime? I've presented evidence and arguments that that inevitability has already occurred, you've done nothing but screech and wail and throw around stupid buzzwords.

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>>42037365
10 years at best.
I expect Nasu to die or retire before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037399
You joke but after learning that they were silently working on Tsukihime after we'd all lost hope makes me think that it is possible that someone at TM at least might be working on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037399
Well despite all FGO posting TM is clearly back on the menu. They made youtube channel for a reason. First time in 20+ years

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037463
There is ZERO evidence for any of your assumptions. If you take offense to the term "headcanon" being applied to your arguments, that says a lot more about you than me. Get your head out of your ass.

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>>42037468
>they were silently working on Tsukihime
But Nasu has been saying he's been working on the Tsukihime Remake for like a decade now. And the Remake took so long because Nasu was working on F/GO. He already has trouble working on a single thing, it would be ridiculous to think he can juggle 3 projects at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037465
>or retire
That won't happen at least. Otaku writers never fucking stop. Hopefully he puts it towards actually good things though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037503
What will retirement age Nasu be like?

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>>42037491
>There is ZERO evidence for any of your assumptions
Then it should be trivial for you to tear them down.
> If you take offense to the term "headcanon" being applied to your arguments
I don't take offense, I'm just noticing a trend in your intellectual dishonesty. You seem more interested in attacking me than engaging with anything I say, which is why you had nothing to say about the second half of this post you're responding to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037492
How I remember it is the article in TM ACE 10 in 2015 being the last TM mentioned it. People were genuinely surprised it still existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037492
>he can juggle 3 projects at the same time.
DDD 3 is writing itself behind the curtains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037519
I already told you this. You have no way of knowing if Soujuurou is dead or alive at the beginning Tsukihime. There is literally no way of knowing. Hilarious that you're accusing me of intellectual dishonesty. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

Sacchin is dead in Melty Blood because she's dead in Tsukihime.
>inb4: Sacchin route
Naaaaniiii?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037531
>You have no way of knowing if Soujuurou is dead or alive at the beginning Tsukihime
Not conclusively, but there's enough evidence to make a strong argument for it. Which I've been doing, and you've done nothing to disprove.
> Hilarious that you're accusing me of intellectual dishonesty
I'm not the one who blatantly runs away from arguments by saying shit like "I'm not even bothering with the rest of your low IQ spiel" as if you don't have the time or will to engage with me. Yet here you are, several posts later. It seems you have nothing but time, so why don't you go back through the reply chain and address everything you ran away from the first time?
> Fuck off.
Maybe you should heed your own advice. You clearly don't want to be in this argument, and have mentally accepted that you lost a long time ago, but are too bullheaded to let go.

[Anonymous No.]

Soujuurou's death is like Schrödinger's cat except the box is a car engine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037573
>here's enough evidence to make a strong argument for it
No there isn't. There's literally zero evidence. This isn't hard to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037604
>why don't you go back through the reply chain and address everything you ran away from the first time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037613
Not being named dropped in Melty Blood isn't evidence of anything you dumb retard. Stop thinking so highly of your garbage "analysis" or "arguments".

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>>42037589

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>>42037627
>Not being named dropped in Melty Blood isn't evidence of anything you dumb retard
We already went over this. If you have an actual argument against what I said that extends beyond "nuh-uh" or "doesn't count", feel free to bring it up at any time.
>Stop thinking so highly of your garbage "analysis" or "arguments".
Again, if they're "garbage" it should be trivial for you to rip them to shreds. You won't though. Yet you'll incessantly and pathetically reply to every post I make, all the same.
Again, why are you replying when you clearly don't want to be in this argument?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037628
Shit on F/GO all you want, but it gave me Archer and Illya acting like brother and sister and I thought that was pretty cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037653
This post will largely be a personal attack, but whatever you deserve it. You seem to think extremely highly of your analysis or arguments for some strange reason. I highly suspect you're that annoying rin poster since the posting style is similar, but whatever you could be someone else. Anyways, the problem with your arguments is that their very foundations are mostly weak and based on shaky ground, at best. I keep pointing this out to you, but you keep ignoring this and then accuse me of not engaging in the argument. Again, I'll use this term here, but you're so convinced of your own personal headcanon that you believe you must be absolutely correct when there is absolutely no evidence that supports your view. Let me break this down.

Presumably you wrote this >>42037173
>Soujuurou is clearly dead by the start of Tsukihime
This is completely, 100% bullshit you made up. The rest of the post depends on this claim which is completely baseless so we'll continue to ignore the rest of it.

Now what actual evidence do you have to back that up? "Oh he wasn't mentioned in melty blood". Nigger we don't even know if Mahoyo takes place in the same world as Tsukihime and you're going to argue that not being namedropped in Melty Blood is evidence of anything? Dude, get the fuck over yourself. Your arguments are trash with zero actual basis, and typing midwit-tier spiels based on flimsy "facts" asserted as truths doesn't deserve anything beyond mocking and ridicule. Let me repeat the point in caps for you: WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FATE OF SOUJUUROU AFTER MAHOYO. We don't know if he dies in 5 years or 50 years. There is ZERO indication in any direction. If there actually was something definitive, you would just type ONE quote right now for me and prove me wrong. But you won't because you can't. There's literally nothing. We DON'T KNOW. Don't make arguments based on things we DON'T KNOW. It's really dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037777
>I highly suspect you're that annoying rin poster since the posting style is similar
I can't be him, he literally only cares about his ship and nothing else.
>their very foundations are mostly weak and based on shaky ground
So then actually explain why and present a counterargument.
>The rest of the post depends on this claim which is completely baseless so we'll continue to ignore the rest of it.
No it doesn't, it's an explanation of the claim I made. You ignoring it is typical though.
> WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FATE OF SOUJUUROU AFTER MAHOYO
He dies.
>We don't know if he dies in 5 years or 50 years
Okay. What narrative purpose is served in him dying in 50 years?
>Don't make arguments based on things we DON'T KNOW
This highlights how insipid you are, you don't make arguments about facts in the first place, idiot. If it was a fact, there would be no argument. Your whole point of view is ass backwards, you seem to be under the impression that no one should be allowed to have an interpretation because it's "ambiguous", when ambiguity is the only place interpretations can exist.
It should be obvious that everything I've said is my interpretation, and if I've come on too strong in my effort to be persuasive in my argument and indicated otherwise, then I apologize. But I'm pretty sure that's not what's happening here, I think you very well know that I'm arguing for my interpretation, and why I think the sequels that Nasu himself alluded to are merited. It's not that I'm seemingly touting my interpretation as undeniable fact that bothers you, it's the interpretation itself. You're either a coward and are afraid of any interpretation whatsoever, or you're a coward who disagrees with my interpretation but are too stupid to actually explain why.

This really was a pathetic post full of nothing but seething. You keep calling my arguments "trash" but you refuse to explain why. If you can type that much just to try to call me an idiot, you could have responded earnestly to any of the posts where there was some semblance of a discussion, instead of you just shitflinging. Sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037777
Based and logicpilled.
Nice 7s too!
>>42037938
Cringe headcanon.

[Anonymous No.]

God damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>no H-scenes with Alice
But why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038158
sorry no sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>Dead Apostle Noel: I turned myself into a loli! Boom! Big reveal! I'm a lol! What do you think about that? I turned myself into a loli! I'm loli Noel!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038202
ToT

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037938
>you don't make arguments about facts in the first place, idiot
My dude, this was not what I typed. I typed "Don't make arguments BASED on things..." Do you notice the difference? If you don't make your arguments based on facts, it's completely worthless (like yours). I didn't read the rest of this post btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038480
> I didn't read the rest of this post btw.
lol, sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038158
She has gay sex with Aoko and Touko behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038193
Life is full of tragedies.
>>42038521
I'm sorry, but it's obvious that this woman was made for male cock. It's the leading cause of despair among homosexuals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038095
At least it has free shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

All of the characters in the last 3 posts are 100% heterosexual.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038664
cope

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038634
>>42038647
>>42038657
>>42038669
>>42038683
>>42038705
all canon and based

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038705
https://nitter.nl/inabaoden/status/1602157754197495808

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038742
Did one of you weirdos requested this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038869
maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037417
>Tsukuri
Where the fuck he is credited and involved with deep one kusoge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038869
it was probably Nasu himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038888
A lot of people believe he secretly worked on Deep One because the directing is extremely similar (allegedly). Note, I haven't personally played it yet because the game is incomplete and also I heard it was kind of bad (the egs scores are pretty brutual) but maybe I'll get around to it one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038899
It's good to know he'll be back for Mahoyo 2 then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038888
It's a dumb EOP theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037094
Except Nasuverse, what other chuunige (or its fanbase) still remains alive by the way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038936
Shinza bros will come back to life once the Avesta VN comes out. Just wait for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038944
I hate Russia. t. Vlov

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038895
Why doesn't Nasu just commission Takeuchi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038899

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[Anonymous No.]

>>42039055

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>>42039060
EOPs are so fucked, kek. They're basically not even reading the same story as us, yet they think they have the authority to discuss it on /tmg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039080
I didn't think it was that bad desu, but it's a little different. Honestly, I'm pretty sure 我執 is supposed to be some buddhist shit that I don't understand either so I won't give the T/L too much shit over that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039055
Translate it weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039144
the pleasure of being cummed inside

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039060
kino
>>42039080
cope. i will never learn that island language

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039192
They took some unexpected liberties here. I only checked this because I wondered how they handled ruby text.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Soujuurou is an Alicefag and you should be too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039080
What is the original text saying here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42038899
>>42039044
From interview

>そうなんですか？では演出担当の月織さんは、普段のゲームでは使用しないその専門的な技術をどこで磨かれたんですか？

>プライベートですね。いつか今よりも専門的な仕事を求められたとき、もしくは今の技術だけでは 袋小路に入ってしまう……という危惧から、常に最新の技術は触れておく必要があるなと。

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039201
This one is really shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039300
Shit like this only fuels rumors kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039300
Where's the proof though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039366
Even deeper. From TM ace

>The use of both of Koyama-san and Tsukuri Monoji-san is a luxurious work.

>Nasu: Mahoyo is a work that I was able to create at the best time. If Tsukihime R is a car, then Mahoyo is a ship. I don't think they are comparable now, but while I was working working on Tuskihime R, I felt like: " As a game to be released after Mahoyo, we have to create something that we would not be ashamed to release anywhere" so I was under a lot of pressure at the time.

>Nasu: The scripting concept is different. The staff of Tsukihime R also replayed Mahoyo and their evaluation was that the they did not know how that presentation was created with the techonology of the time.


>Nasu: Mahoyo is the origin of Nasu Kinoko's works and it boasts the highest quality among all Type Moon products.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42018725
I remember that from the last thread so here you go.

[Anonymous No.]

So...what's next after red garden?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039648
Mahoyo 2

[Anonymous No.]

>Mahoyo is complet-
Also the mystery mini-story could have been really cool but it ended up being a borderline nonsensical shitpost, what a shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039648
F/SN remake

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039659
>borderline nonsensical
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039664
Nasu must hate the idea of working on more Fate stuff at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039657
>Mahoyo 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039674

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039673
Bro it was just last year when Nasu was talking in interviews about how great of an experience was writing LB6 for the gacha...
I don't think he's tired at all...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039673
This is why LB6 is longer than Mahoyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039080
What about the frog speaking posters? are they fucked like the EoPs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039666
Alice kills people but she innocent.
Nobody openly suspects the culprit when he very obviously had the chance to kill the victims that went outside.
After doing nothing for the entire mini-story Kuma suddenly figures everything out even if she barely has any evidence and everything is an educated guess(and a complicated one at that).
The "everything went my way" justification doesn't even make sense because you can pick choices, Kuma agrees that she should do it and then does nothing.
The culprit is also instantly spoiled in most bad ends which makes everything even worse.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we know how well the english release did yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039802
>Alice kills people but she innocent.
Uh no she just made people laugh on purpose but she's not the user of the ploy.
>After doing nothing for the entire mini-story Kuma suddenly figures everything out
It was just process of elimination; not really that hard. The only real twist in the rules was that there's two people (Soujuurou and Kuma).

Sounds like just a (you) problem overall since the bad ends you speak of only spoil Soujuurou so you misunderstood it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039824
No, only that it sold 110k globally >>42034083
Keep in mind that this was also the PS4/Switch release, so there must be some JP sales in there too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039666
>>borderline nonsensical
The whole premise was that people died from laughing. I enjoyed it but it was blatantly very silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039673
he sure love writing lots about it and relates to Guda a lot. I'm sure he feels more attached to FGO than anything else at this rate after working on it for so long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040007
Well sure it's silly as hell but not nonsensical. It's just Alice ploy shenanigans. All in good fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037310
>Five +- years ago everyone and their mothers thought FSN and Tsukihime are the same worlds.
They clearly were:

>Q: About Tsukihime, which has the same background world setting as Fate/stay night, which story happened first chronologically? And how many years apart are they?
>A: The end of Tsukihime is the beginning of Fate/stay night.

It being retconned retroactively after the fact doesn't make it headcanon at the time, it just means he changed his mind.

[Anonymous No.]

Alice's abilities remind me of Bohemian Rhapsody from JoJo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040129
Nasu is or was a Jojo fan so I'm sure some influence went into it

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040129
The Flat Snark shit felt like a JoJo chapter, at least until the actual fight itself.

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to know about Soujuurou's past just ask his VA. Apparently Nasu told him everything.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm heading over to /vn/, you guys want anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040356
Tell them I'll be back

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040356
tell the poop schizo to take his meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040115
>It being retconned retroactively
He didn't say anything about them being in the same world. It's always vague. They have same background world setting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040434
>きのこ：
オコタエシマス、カタカタ。
巫浄に関しての設定は微妙に異なるのです。
何かと類似点が多い「らっきょ」「月姫」ですが、細かい所で異なる部分があります。
その一つが巫浄。実際、浅神、両儀、七夜は超能力に類する物ですが、「らっきょ」の巫浄は魔術師の家系です から。
他には……そうですねー、青子の年齢とか。「月姫」と「らっきょ」がまったく同じ世界だとすると、青子って 志貴よりちょい年上なだけになってしまいます。「らっきょ」での青子さんはまだミス・ブルーなんて呼ばれて おらず、三咲町で修行中だったり。
微妙にズレた平行世界、とでも思っていただければ幸いかと。

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040481
KnK is clearly no longer a Tsukihime world though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040481
This is about KnK and Tsuki. But the global change was Human Order - no DAA in the worlds with Servants

[Anonymous No.]

>>42039044
I'm not totally convinced. Using animation gif is not enough. Show a more mundane scene because he has a specific style to how to use sprites and background

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040356
Grab me a Karen pretty please

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040356
stay there

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040481
>らっきょ
what the hell is this again

[Anonymous No.]

>>42033789
Because they wanted to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040646
Those books tmg hates.

[tmg No.]

>>42040775
but i love knk

[Anonymous No.]

What are Nasu's worst retcons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040794
I stand corrected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040799
He didn't retcon anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040638
>
>>42040643
/tmg/ is /vn/ adjacent

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040974
no one cares faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040799
retcon yourself surveyfaggot

[Anonymous No.]

Posting in /vn/ is fine, but you better not be bitching about EOPs in the EOP thread.

[Anonymous No.]

this IS the EOP thread...

[Anonymous No.]

whoever makes the next thread, fix the random "huj" in the OP and the other fuckups

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041005
How about this? I we should separate the console version of Mahoyo from the PC link too, since they're technically two different versions.


A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
English Patch (Partial):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
French Patch:
https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian Patch:
https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch (Arcueid Route):
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3748986
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

Previous: >>42029791

[Anonymous No.]

I work at TM and I’ve leaked the Yumizuka route. Here it is https://fiction.live/tsukihime/Satsuki-Yumizuka-Route/4B9obcHdi7CLnaid9/home

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041086
where do i click for the sex scenes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42040974
no

[Anonymous No.]

So when is the Switch/PS4 Mahoyo TL getting backported to PC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041399
Never. You'll have to wait for Hollow Moon to create the definitive translation alongside hacking in the voices to the PC version. ;^)

[Anonymous No.]

Mahoyo is making me depressed because deep down I know that Fate will never get a new VN as high quality as this.

Fate will never get a new VN period. They are going to keep churning out FGO garbage and completely ignore all of the FSN fans who have been waiting nearly 2 decades for something new.

I want to cry

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
Abandon Fate if you want to live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
If it makes you feel better literally nothing will ever get a VN as high quality as Mahoyo

[Anonymous No.]

Holy outrage material Batman!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYv1bsHTkY

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
I'm a Fate fan and I think every FSN fan who wants something new is a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041020
Also delete the italian and french patches. They're just cluttering the OP. Japanese and english are enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041741
The "translation" completely misses Ushi noticing Shiki's Pure Eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041831
type lumina translation being below MTL tier is nothing new. You can literally find major mistranslations just by browsing the character profiles on the official website

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
What is there to get? FSN is a complete story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
This >>42041751

[Anonymous No.]

can gilGOD kill servants?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041741
This will be Ushi's bond line for Shiki whenever he's added to FGO.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a direct download for mahoyo switch? My ISP is blocking torrents

[Anonymous No.]

What a terrible TL line that implies that she knows SHIKI. It's a line about her brother obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

It's kinda weird that Aoko and none of the other characters besides Alice talk about Souji having a noticeable inury

[Anonymous No.]

I've read OG Tsukihime, is Tsukiremake worth the time investment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042524
Absolutely

[Anonymous No.]

>>42037777

>This is completely, 100% bullshit

but anon souji is already a walking corpse grandpa aozaki already said that himself "he isn't interested in the dead" when he met souji

aoko only yeeted his death in a far future it wasn't erased it was only move

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042524
Try reading Plus Disc and KT too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041751
>I'm a tranny
fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041751
based. Let Fate die and move on to something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
>>42041399
>>42042524
>>42042323
Why is there so much surveyposting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042787
It's just spooks trying to track wires.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042787
you haven't taken your meds yet troon

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042787
OK I'll start spamming ishtar feet again now

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042832
at least post a good character's feet like Saber or Alice.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros...why are Greeks so gay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
best case scenario is we get a new novel by the butcher. hard to go back to fsn these days. the writing is pretty dreadful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042917
>hard to go back to fsn these days. the writing is pretty dreadful.

explain this meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043091
an old Zerofag clinging on to dead memes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042886
Why is Saber's gf biting Caster's ear?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042723
Alright. Tell me seriously what you can do with FSN that wouldn't just be fanservice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041751
Pretty much. Always felt that Tsukihme and Fate/Stay Night never needed *serious* follow-ups. The spin-offs they got were fine but the stories were mostly complete and any more would be spinning their wheels

[Anonymous No.]

Rider deserves her own route and you know it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043472
Not really, Sakura can fix her with her smile, no dick needed.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>42043463
This, my feelings also apply to Tsukihime.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043463
>No Altrouge, no Crimson Moon revival, no Dark Six and the other Ancestors
>complete

Nah. Tsukihime very much needed a sequel or spin off, there are tons of characters and story left unexplored. If Nasu doesn't want to do it he could come up with a rough plotline and delegate it to a different writer, I'm sure plenty would love to continue the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043747
A story doesn't need to explain everything. Tsukihime was about the events surrounding Misaki Town and the Tohno Mansion. That story is wrapped up, everything else could remain a mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

What is behind the neck bandages? What did I miss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043775
I don't agree. I consider Arcueid's story to be incomplete with things as they are. I want to know more about her origin and her overall world. I don't want it to remain a mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043463
You are correct FSN doesn't need a follow up due to the fact that FSN is a dating sim first and foremost, and everything else second. Shirou/Rin/Sakura's high school dating sim/shounenshit stories were already told and don't need any more telling. The best of the Fate franchise happened post-FSN release and has none of that dating sim garbage in their DNA.

A new Fate VN would be an actual story like Zero, Extra, SF, Apocrypha, Redline, FGO, etc. and not dating sim shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42041642
>HA is all about saying goodbye to fate and moving on
>UGGGHHHH I WANT MORE FATE VNs

[Anonymous No.]

>>42042605
>aoko only yeeted his death in a far future
Again for maybe the 1000x time, the point is that we have no clue when this "far future" is. Zero. Nada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043525
What could have been... what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42044030
Maybe Nrvnqsr could show up in Red Garden?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043826
Why do you keep coming here

[Anonymous No.]

>>42043877
sorry lemme reprhase that "unkown future" so it could happen at anytime, i mean the dude said to her that he would carry her responsiblity at fooling the world reviving him, i think "death" is the only logical reason why he's absent by her side

[Anonymous No.]

>>42044217
Why did you post a thumbnail?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42044217
>i think "death" is the only logical reason why he's absent by her side
uh no, there's a gazillion possible reasons. It's entirely plausible he just fucked off back to some mountains somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru generally seen as incomplete
>Tsukihime got rebooted, it's original story is now 1/3 incomplete, even more sequel baiting this time
>Fate/Stay Night will eventually get a remake as it's one of the most popular visual novels of all time, making it easy bank
>Not to mention any current or new works that will derail the above

I don't think these stories will ever be completed in Nasu's lifetime. Guess it's over.

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>>42044217
How exactly would he even die at this point if the entire event surrounding his death was sent to the far future?

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>>42044253
>Fate/Stay Night will eventually get a remake
literally nobody says this besides /tmg/

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>>42044265
It's one of the most popular visual novel of all time, why wouldn't it? It's the easiest financial business decision to ever make if Type-Moon needs good PR and cash. I don't want it at all like I didn't want Tsukihime Remake, but it seems silly to think it's unlikely at all and not an obvious business decision down the road.

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To put it bluntly, I'll be SHOCKED if Type-Moon has the integrity to never remake Fate/Stay Night. I don't count on it, but would be a welcomed surprise.

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>>42044293
>like I didn't want Tsukihime Remake
You're retarded. There's multiple valid reasons to remake Tsukihime. It's not even remotely comparable. The only thing that F/SN would "need" (notice the quotes) is a higher resolution sort of like how Nitroplus re-released some of their old VNs later at higher resolutions.

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>>42044252
bro he's character is literally about him changing adapting to civilization cause he has no reason to live and killed himself once in the mountains cause he's life there was pretty fucked up why would he go back to the mountains?

[Anonymous No.]

Me in 2062 waiting for Nasu to finish the F/GO Remake so he can finally start working on Mahoyo 2

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>>42044257
cause he's human? he could die easily

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>>42044365
>killed himself once in the mountains
headcanon

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>>42044293
>it's the easiest financial business decision to ever make if Type-Moon needs good PR and cash
anon, are you aware that they are currently making a shit ton of money with a gacha, something that probably doesn't require half the effort that would be needed to remake fate stay night? if fate stay night had to be remade, it's because nasu wants to, not because of the easy money.

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>>42044435
aight now for sure i know you didn't read jackshit about the vn this was a complete waste of time

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>>42044480
There is no evidence that his neck injury has anything to do with a suicide attempt. That is pure speculation. It's completely unknown what happened.

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>>42044385
Ah yes, but the way people say it is like his death is set in stone or something.

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>>42044365
Aoko finishes up her magic training and decides to fuck off and wander the world. Alice goes back to bongland. Soujuurou says "I don't care about civilization anymore peace out". Really could be simple as that. It's not complicated

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>>42044496
I think it's sort of implied when he grasped his neck the moment he was revived and Alice got worried thinking he was going to kill himself when he just came back to life.

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>>42044499
he is not mentioned in melty blood, it's kinda obvious that he's dead by the time of the tsukihime remake at least

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>>42044522
>he is not mentioned in melty blood
means nothing
>it's kinda obvious that he's dead by the time of the tsukihime remake
literally zero proof

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>>42044496

yeah you clearly didn't understand jackshit about chapter 12 and how aoko manage to revive him

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>>42044552
>it was real in my mind
[citation needed]

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>>42044522
Hmm, no, I don't agree with that.

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>>42044535
everyone but him was mentioned in aoko's scenario, you don't have to be a genius to know that it was done on purpose. the logical conclusion from that, is that he is potentially dead.

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>>42044572
So Tobimaru and Konomi are dead too?

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>>42044552
Aoko took the 5 minutes surrounding his death and threw it to the far future. She also took 10 years from his past, but only his mental time, and added it to her own time. That was it.

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>>42044563
yeah sure anon that would make you feel better?

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>>42044588
An actual citation supporting your claim? Yes, I would feel a lot better if you posted that.

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>>42044572
Mahoyo is like, what, 30 years before Melty? For all we know Soujuurou married someone else other than Alice and Aoko and is living his life somewhere far away.
Him dying would mean he kept living with Alice and Aoko until way into their adulthood which I find unlikely.

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>>42044345
It doesn't matter what it "needs" or doesn't. I personally don't think either needed a remake, they were beloved before for a reason. But in a future with rising costs and budgets, relying on reboots and remakes has become the norm for every medium because it's secure and guaranteed financially viable.

>>42044463
Just because FGO prints money doesn't mean there isn't any reason to not have multiple revenue streams. The sales of Tsukihime Remake alone, while obviously meager to the gacha, are a massive motivator to once again dominate the VN market, which would without a doubt exceed Tsukihime's numbers by at least 2x the amount

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Do we know anything about the Fujimura family other than the fact they are yakuza and let Shirou fix their motorbikes?

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Did they have to give Robin the most annoying voice ever?

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>>42044583
aoko's grandpa confirmed soujuurou's fate, he's good as dead.

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>>42044642
okay but WHEN?

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>>42043786
It's all the hickeys he had gotten

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you guys just ask Nasu?

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>>42044617
>which would without a doubt exceed Tsukihime's numbers by at least 2x the amount
This would require the F/SN remake to sell more than 500,000 copies, which is absolutely not happening.

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>>42044678
Wouldn't be surprised by how big Fate got over the years and how actually knowledgeable of the source material japanese are

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>>42044702
There's a reason type-moon is a running a successful business and you aren't

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>>42044604
sure anon next time read your ass wide open the vn literally talks about how souji may wanted to commit suicide at chapter 13 and aoko seeing his memory on chapter 12 being taught that "he should desire for nothing" and subconciously choking himself after until alice made her snap out of it

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>>42044741
I see it's another "ESL is retarded" episode. Type in proper English so I can understand what the fuck you're trying to say.

[Anonymous No.]

*him

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>>42044747
sure f*ggot

just take the L

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>...

[Anonymous No.]

i can't believe Aoko's game flopped so hard it killed /tmg/

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>>42044496
>There is no evidence that his neck injury has anything to do with a suicide attempt.
Yeah there is. You're just a fucking brainlet bro. Let me ask you some questions.
What was Soujuurou trained to be?
What does he say to Aoko when she's trying to kill him?
Why does he proudly display the scars from when he was bitten by dogs, but when Aoko and Alice happen upon him shirtless in the foyer, he already has his neck bandage back on (implying he either never took it off or it was the first thing he put back on)?

He's a gentle, "harmless" soul, and he found out he was being raised to be a murderer. What do you think his response to that would be? And upon surviving, do you think he'd feel shame or pride about what that response was?

Why are you so deathly afraid of thinking? Tell me what you think his neck injury is then.
>>42044499
Because it's karma, the world itself is going to be out to fix the mistake. Just because Aoko recklessly threw it into the distant future doesn't mean the world will sit still and patiently wait to correct that error.
Also, a more mundane answer, because there's zero narrative or thematic purpose served by your retarded nothing postulation.

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>>42045879
and people dare to compare her to rin

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>>42045917
>Tell me what you think his neck injury is then.
I have no idea. There's not enough evidence and it's obviously sequel bait. You can speculate on it but pretending it's anywhere near conclusive is retarded.

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>>42045879
there were two fucking Fate GO characters announced for Melty like a day ago
yet the biggest topic in this thread are people are talking about Soujuurou
not sure I'd say the game flopped or that it "killed" /tmg/

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>>42045951
Again, why are you so afraid of thinking?
And why do you lash out at people who have the balls to do so?

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>>42045983
I merely criticize people assert that use vague, uncofirmed theories as fact. Nothing more, nothing less.

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>>42046008
You don't though, you don't actually address anything they say. You don't offer any sort of counter arguments or alternative explanations. You don't tackle the evidence they use or the scenes they reference and explain how and why their interpretation of it was wrong.
You can't understand any sort of subtle or nuanced storytelling, and you act like it doesn't exist. Any well-reasoned interpretation is just "headcanon". You won't accept anything that isn't spelled out to you at a grade-school level, any nuance or subtle goes straight over your malformed head.

I really hope you aren't actually like this, and this is just coming from you really liking Soujuurou, and not wanting to entertain any notions about him dying or being a suicide.

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>>42046051
No, I just have a higher standard than you when it comes to interpreting works. Vague hints and guessing how a character may react is not enough. Again, you are perfectly free to come up theories and that's fine. I've have zero issues with that. My problem is when people think their theories, that are waffling at best, must absolutely be correct and assert is as such. Or even worse, their personal theories (asserted as facts), as justification for another opinion of theirs (you see this just becomes an extra direction of vagueness).

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>>42046098
>No, I just have a higher standard than you when it comes to interpreting works.
So give us your theory of what his neck injury is. Bear in mind, if you say "I don't know" you immediately disqualify yourself from this argument, because you're admitting you didn't think about it at all.
>I've have zero issues with that.
You clearly do. You've spent the lion's share of this thread sperging out at multiple people for doing so.

It's pretty obvious now that you're a pseud who thinks way too highly of himself, and you get butthurt when people draw conclusions that you were too stupid and inattentive to figure out on your own.

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>>42046133
Nope, I reject your premise. "I don't know" is a completely valid answer. The story deliberately does not give enough information about Soujuurou's neck injury to draw a firm conclusion . It is 100% OK and acceptable to admit that there are things you don't know. I mean really forget about the beef you have with me for a second. You're really going to bash every single person that is unsure what is going on with Soujuurou's neck injury? I'm far from the only person. People have asked this for over a decade.
>You've spent the lion's share of this thread sperging out at multiple people for doing so.
I've spent the bulk of a /tmg/ thread talking about a Type-Moon VN and Type-Moon characters? Say it ain't so. How could this happen?
>It's pretty obvious now that you're a pseud who thinks way too highly of himself, and you get butthurt when people draw conclusions that you were too stupid and inattentive to figure out on your own.
now this is just projection

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>>42046186
> "I don't know" is a completely valid answer.
So your "higher standard" is just not having an interpretation at all. lmao.
>You're really going to bash every single person that is unsure what is going on with Soujuurou's neck injury?
No, of course not, because they're not going online and spouting their inane and asinine bullshit like you are. If I pointed things out to them, they'd actually start thinking deeper about the story, themes and characterization instead of playing the perpetual midwit skeptic like your cowardly ass. You add nothing to the discussion, and just seem to want people to not talk about it at all. You don't even make a good skeptic, because like I said you never actually address anything. You just parrot inane shit like "I DON'T KNOW" and "HEADCANON".
>I've spent the bulk of a /tmg/ thread talking about a Type-Moon VN and Type-Moon characters?
You haven't been talking about the VN or the characters at all, you refuse to. You've just been attacking the people who do.
>now this is just projection
How? I have the balls to draw my own conclusions and put them out there, that clearly doesn't apply to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>headcanon anon is still posting WALLS
>but now about suicide
The birth of VaatiVidya.

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>>42046267
>So your "higher standard" is just not having an interpretation at all. lmao.
Like, I already said. The story doesn't give enough for a good interpretation. Not having an answer is completely valid. Too many people try to have strong opinions about things they don't know enough about. Knowing what you don't know is really important.
>If I pointed things out to them, they'd actually start thinking deeper about the story, themes and characterization
And they're perfectly free to disagree with you just like I am doing right now. Or are you going to bash them too for not buying your theory?
>You've just been attacking the people who do.
I've "attacked" (protip: this is a discussion board so people are allowed to reply to posts) most likely two people. The ESL guy and probably you. Or maybe you're someone else who knows. I've posted many things in this thread. You are just getting upset at the things I've posted where I don't think people's theories should be treated as absolute facts and truths.
>I have the balls to draw my own conclusions and put them out there
Umm, this is an anonymous imageboard. You're not "risking" (lmao) anything or being brave somehow by posting your theories here. Grow up a bit my man.

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>>42046348
how much of a brainlet are you that you consider any of the posts above yours "walls"
you know /jp/ has a 4000 character limit for posts right, none of those are even close to 1000

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>>42046366
>The story doesn't give enough for a good interpretation.
Explain why.
>And they're perfectly free to disagree with you just like I am doing right now
Sure, which is why I said that they'd "think deeper", not that they'd necessarily buy what I'm selling.
>Or are you going to bash them too for not buying your theory?
Only if they flat out refuse to actually discuss the VN, like you. Just look at what we're "arguing" about right now. We're "arguing" about what an insufferable retard you are, because you refuse to entertain any sort of discussion about the actual VN, the themes, the characterization, the scenes, etc.
>I've "attacked" (protip: this is a discussion board so people are allowed to reply to posts)
You're blatantly attacking the people you're "arguing" with, because you're not addressing any of their arguments. You have not posted any thing substantial or insightful in this entire thread, you've just tried to call people idiots for daring to express an opinion or interpretation.
>You're not "risking" (lmao) anything or being brave somehow by posting your theories here
Oh, I agree on this 100%. I don't think I'm special or brave at all. Which is why your behavior is so fucking baffling.

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>>42046422
>Explain why.
Lacks an actual solid motive, and it doesn't fit Soujuurou's personality.
>Only if they flat out refuse to actually discuss the VN, like you
I've discussed the VN multiple times. You're the one that wanted to have a sperg fight with me again.
>you've just tried to call people idiots for daring to express an opinion or interpretation
I've called people idiots for expressing their interpretation of vague events/hints as FACTS. This is very important. You keep conveniently leaving out important details in my post. Try to read closer next time.
>Oh, I agree on this 100%. I don't think I'm special or brave at all. Which is why your behavior is so fucking baffling.
This is obviously contradictory to your previous statements. You've called me a "coward" because I don't have a good theory for a series of open-ended events in a work of fiction. Furthermore, you even said that you "have the balls" (this implies bravery/courage) just a second ago. Just to be clear, there is exactly zero courage or cowardice involved from any party here. Hopefully I don't have to elaborate why. It's anonymous posting.

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>>42046473
>Lacks an actual solid motive
He was trained to be an assassin.
When Aoko is trying to kill him, he naively states to her that "Murder is wrong".
Does that not strike you as a contradiction?
It's constantly reinforced that he's a gentle soul, and "harmless" in spite of this brutal upbringing he underwent.
What do you think happened when he found out the true purpose behind his training?
That's plenty of motive for suicide, especially given his personality. He'd want to kill himself to protect his prospective victims/targets from being harmed.
And we already know he's committed a kind of spiritual suicide in abandoning his life in the mountains.
> it doesn't fit Soujuurou's personality
What do you mean? He almost kills himself fighting Beowulf on account of his selflessness (also important to note that he does not kill Beowulf either, though it's stated he easily could have). Trying to commit suicide so that he never has to kill anyone fits his personality like a glove. And remember this was all before he met Aoko.
>I've discussed the VN multiple times. You're the one that wanted to have a sperg fight with me again.
Where, other than what you just typed? That's literally the first time I've managed to weasel anything out of you. Kudos, by the way. Again, look at what we've been talking about. This is on you, buddy. I brought up multiple points from the VN which you blatantly ignored in favor of shitflinging.
>I've called people idiots for expressing their interpretation of vague events/hints as FACTS.
No, you just attack anyone and everyone who is capable of interpreting subtlety and nuance. You don't have a problem with how these interpretations are stated, but that they are stated at all. Notice how I've been saying "interpretations" throughout this exchange, yet you're still trying to hide behind this shit.
>This is obviously contradictory to your previous statements.
This shouldn't be hard to get, but I'm calling you a fucking pussy. You're afraid to do something that any normal person has no problem doing.

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>>42043826
>>42044066
Nasu wrote a canon sequel

>Rin and Shirou go to London together
>Rin loves Shirou and didnt give up yet which happens only in Fate or HF
>Luvia hints that Rin's presence makes it hard for her to steal Shirou and specifically says she wants to steal him from her which doesnt make sense if they arent a thing
>Sakura is NEVER mentioned
>Shirou can make swords as if it's nothing and Rin event drops a casual line about him replicating the Azoth sword which would be possible only in UBW since in Fate or HF he couldnt have gotten so good so fast
>She starts doing "SEIGI NO MIKATA" adventures which only happens if Archer story moves her which doesnt happen in Fate or HF
>Waver recalls the scene at the end of UBW which is the most obvious proof

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>>42046603
UBW anime is also parallel world. And direct sequel to F/Z anime which is parallel world to F/Z novel and sound drama. Not to F/SN UBW route in VN.

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>>42046586
Not that anon and I think that's a cool interpretation. But it's still a theory since it's clearly not confirmed.

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>>42046630
I do like the Souji tried to commit suicide theory since it would explain his neck injury and Alice’s reaction to it. Souji always came off as someone that had accepted death especially with how casual he is about having Aoko or anyone that knows him kill him. He’s said to be physically at his prime while his spirit is very weak so him having mental issues and trying to struggle to survive after going so far and failing to kill himself to be a believable theory.

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>>42046586
>What do you think happened when he found out the true purpose behind his training?
But he didn't actually kill anyone. This is kind of a big deal. Yes, he was probably not very happy about learning the truth of his upbringing, but leaping to "welp, I'll kill myself now" doesn't sound plausible unless there are some other sort of circumstances.
>He'd want to kill himself to protect his prospective victims/targets from being harmed.
Maybe but this didn't actually happen so it can't be a motive.
>He almost kills himself fighting Beowulf on account of his selflessness
This is not suicidal at all. He did it to repay back Aoko. Big difference and not really related at all.
>Where, other than what you just typed?
Look buddy, if you're still butthurt over me rejecting the absolute asinine melty blood assertions that's on you. I've discussed Alice, Aoko, and Soujuurou multiple times in this thread not related to you.
>you just attack anyone and everyone who is capable of interpreting subtlety and nuance
Again, no. I've only insulted (most likely) two people who believe their theories are facts. I'm sorry this upset you.
>You're afraid to do something that any normal person has no problem doing.
There's no "cowardice" or "bravery" involved with posting anything here. don't make me repeat this again.

[Anonymous No.]

To new and old Mahoyo readers here’s an interesting cut scene that wasn’t in the game. It’s set during chapter 7. https://youtu.be/HWVw5HzH3LM

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>>42046657
Wait they cut this? I don't remember it super well but was this one of the archive scenes you unlock later?

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>>42046653
>But he didn't actually kill anyone. This is kind of a big deal.
Yes, that's kind of the point. He doesn't want to kill anyone. "Murder is wrong". He'd obviously take some kind of drastic measures to not go through with it.
>leaping to "welp, I'll kill myself now" doesn't sound plausible
What else was he going to do? Also it's important to note that, for whatever reason, he failed.
>Maybe but this didn't actually happen so it can't be a motive.
What do you even mean? Explain. You think he can only take his life after he's killed someone and committed the sin? Why do you think he can't take his life before to prevent himself from having to go through with it?
>This is not suicidal at all
It's literally described as such in the text.
>He did it to repay back Aoko. Big difference and not really related at all.
It shows that he's willing to put himself in harm's way to save other people. He's willing to sacrifice himself. How is that "not really related at all"?
>rejecting the absolute asinine melty blood assertions that's on you
lol there was way more than just that.
> I've discussed Alice, Aoko, and Soujuurou multiple times in this thread not related to you
Okay. So why have you been so afraid to do it up until now? You didn't want to talk about Aoko or Soujuurou at all earlier.
>There's no "cowardice" or "bravery" involved with posting anything here. don't make me repeat this again.
And yet up until now you've been afraid to engage in any sort of discussion about the VN.

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>>42046719
I haven’t beaten Mahoyo yet but I believe this scene isn’t in the game since I got to chapter 8 after reading Martha already. Anyone else that beat the remaster know if it’s cut or not?

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>>42046728
No, that scene isn't in it.

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>>42046752
Do you play patched mahoyo? 1.02?

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>>42046776
>>42046752
Asked others and patched my official release and it isn’t in. A shame since it’s cute.

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>>42046776
Yeah, I'd been playing it on PS4 which autoupdates.

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>>42046625
>UBW anime is also parallel world. And direct sequel to F/Z anime which is parallel world to F/Z novel and sound drama. Not to F/SN UBW route in VN.

Case Files is confirmed VN canon.

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>>42046725
>What else was he going to do?
Uh go live a life somewhere else? It's not a binary choice between "be an assassin" and "kill myself". I mean obviously, he left the mountains just fine and went to the city so he had options.
>Why do you think he can't take his life before to prevent himself from having to go through with it?
There's no indication that he ever had to "go through with it" or was close to doing it. Most likely, he didn't even understand what he was even doing until sometime after he got kicked out for asking a question. The idea that he was still in training, but tried to kill himself to prevent hypothetically killing someone else doesn't seem plausible. The events, as described, indicate that Soujuurou is basically just a machine doing the same thing over and over until suddenly one day he had a question and that was the end of his life in the assassination camp.
>It's literally described as such in the text.
Quote it.
>He's willing to sacrifice himself. How is that "not really related at all"?
Uh, do you know the English language? Suicidal and sacrificial don't mean the same thing at all. You would not generally describe someone willing to sacrifice himself for others as suicidal. Are firefighters suddenly suicidal now? Regardless, it's not even remotely the same situation as a hypothetical suicide attempt in the moment so really it's not related. He felt indebted to Aoko.
>why have you been so afraid to do it up until now
You and that other guy didn't post anything worth taking seriously until just now. I confess I skipped the initial time you posted this but got back to it after your repost.

[Anonymous No.]

Maho forbids screenshoting after amusment park chapter? Game is literally 10 years old and has nothing new??? What a bull of crap, how I can do screenshots inspite of this if I have hacked switch?

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>>42046824
>Uh go live a life somewhere else?
He didn't even know there was a world outside his village.
> he left the mountains just fine and went to the city so he had options
That's not really what was implied at all. Also do you think a secret sect of assassins is just willing to let one of their prospects just up and move? The only reason they'd let him just leave is if he proved to be defective in some way. He did more than just ask a question, clearly.
>Uh, do you know the English language? Suicidal and sacrificial don't mean the same thing at all.
Do you know anything about theories of suicide? Have you ever read Durkheim? Altruistic suicide ring any bells?
>Are firefighters suddenly suicidal now?
Some legitimately are. Same with soldiers. It's not uncommon for people to join a profession like that because they want to die in a way that will not be a burden on those around them, to die for a good cause.
>You and that other guy didn't post anything worth taking seriously until just now
lol okay

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>>42046657
I feel retarded. I can't find this in the PC version. Does anyone actually know the name of this scene? I'm checking around where chapters 7-8 should be and haven't seen it yet.

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>>42046888
It's a cut scene that remained in the game's files. I've only ever seen it in text form so I'm confused as to why it seems to have been fully scripted.

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>>42046912
Oh I see. What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>Alice scene
>cut
It's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42046923
We’ll never hear Kana talk cutely to Sono-G here… It’s over bros…

[Anonymous No.]

/tmg/ having proper discussion over Mahoyo. What is even is this sorcery?

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>>42046885
>He didn't even know there was a world outside his village.
So how is the logical conclusion "I'm going to kill myself" and not "maybe I'll see if there's a world out there"?
>That's not really what was implied at all.
Are we getting into pedantry here? Obviously, his life isn't in danger from the secret assassins and blah blah. That thing.
>Also do you think a secret sect of assassins is just willing to let one of their prospects just up and move?
Based on what was told, this is exactly what happened.
>The only reason they'd let him just leave is if he proved to be defective in some way. He did more than just ask a question, clearly.
And yes, the dude obviously implied that he was defective because he asked a question. Claiming he "did more than just ask a question, clearly" is 100% headcanon. It's not clear at all.
>Do you know anything about theories of suicide? Have you ever read Durkheim? Altruistic suicide ring any bells?
>Some legitimately are. Same with soldiers. It's not uncommon for people to join a profession like that because they want to die in a way that will not be a burden on those around them, to die for a good cause.
You're just muddling the discussion for no reason here. Again, being suicidal and sacrificial aren't the same thing. Yes, some people exist out there that happen to be suicidal and sacrificial at the same time. That doesn't mean the words mean the same thing (they don't). The firefighter example was brought up since it is an inherently sacrificial profession (putting yourself in harm's way for the sake of others), but saying every single firefighter is suicidal is just insulting and obviously not true. This wraps back to Soujuurou because in that specific situation his actions are sacrificial in a way, but clearly not suicidal. There is a difference. And still, this isn't related to the hypothetical "did he do a suicide attempt" discussion at all. Extremely different circumstances all across the board.

[Anonymous No.]

Talking about voices, am I retarded or is the Aoko/Soujyuro flashback scene after the punch meant to be Aoko thinking to herself about him punching bears?
For some reason he voices it and says "Is he making fun of me?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>42047076
It's Soujuurou asking Aoko if she's making fun of him. If the translation is the opposite then it's wrong.

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>>42046998
>"maybe I'll see if there's a world out there"
He didn't know at all, he couldn't even conceive of the possibility. The mountains/his village was the entire world as far as he was concerned.
>headcanon
Stop using this term, brainlet. If you have to argue against it, it's not "headcanon" by definition. An interpretation that can actually be argued and supported and makes sense is not "headcanon". That doesn't mean it's necessarily correct, but you can't just write off anything you don't like or disagree with as being "headcanon". "Headcanon" is some absurd non-sequitur that has zero basis in the story, like "Soujuurou is trans".
>You're just muddling the discussion for no reason here.
I'm not the one who brought this up. But it's irrelevant. You can say it's suicidal or sacrificial, it that doesn't change the fact that he's willing to throw his life away to protect someone.
>Again, being suicidal and sacrificial aren't the same thing.
Not according to psychological and sociological research on the matter. Have you read Durkheim or not?
>but saying every single firefighter is suicidal is just insulting and obviously not true
Good thing no one said that then.
> And still, this isn't related to the hypothetical "did he do a suicide attempt" discussion at all.
You claimed he had no motive to commit suicide and that it doesn't fit his personality. His willingness to sacrifice his own life to protect others is in stark contrast to that.

If were forced to choose between killing himself, and killing someone else, which do you think he would choose? Bear in mind him being chased by Aoko, and how he never once attempted to defend himself beyond running away. Also how easily he consigned himself to his fate at her hands.

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Would that bandage even cover ligature marks from hanging?
I haven't got to the relevant parts on my re-read yet, but I vaguely remember having an impression that Soujuurou might have been strangled by someone. Like his mother or something.

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>>42046998
>So how is the logical conclusion "I'm going to kill myself"
His whole character is based around him lacking a sense of self. You agree on that, right? To you it's an absurd leap of logic, to him it's a natural conclusion.
"If I live, I'll hurt other people. So instead, I should die."

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>>42047116
I can't believe he doesn't even consider Aoko a girl, how will she ever recover?

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>>42047201
It covers his whole neck. The choker I guess though is a bit less. And I don't know why people automatically assume hanging. He could have tried to slice his throat.

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It would be pretty fucked up if he almost killed himself via hanging and Aoko gifted him a collar that she uses to strangle him from time to time.
Come to think of it, knowing he has an injury on his neck and strangling him seems way over the line no matter how you justify it.

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>>42047246
>Come to think of it, knowing he has an injury on his neck and strangling him seems way over the line no matter how you justify it.
Alice is the only one that knows about it, Aoko is retarded and just never questions why Soujuurou wears those bandages.

Though now that you say that, maybe that's Nasu using dark humor to hint at the idea.

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>>42047246
>Aoko will never choke you to death while she dominates you as her dog
I’m not gonna make it…

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https://strawpoll.com/polls/PKglzLj4pyp

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>>42047278
None, need some Mahoyo options due to /tmg/ being more interested in it.

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>>42047278
It's Mahoyo time, git gud.

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>>42047278
mahoyo nigger

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>>42047210
I don't know how they even fucked that one up.

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>>42047268
It's pretty unrealistic that she wouldn't mentally connect collar = neck = bandages = some kind of injury when creating the magical collar and thinking how he would look with it on his neck/seeing him put it on over his bandaged neck.
I know it's what happened, just saying Nasu is a hack

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>>42047210
>>42047308
Holy shit I just realised this is one of the very minor changes they talked about. They corrected Aoko's sprite to be consistent with what she was actually wearing when Soujuurou first said that.

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>>42047278
Use this instead. Also don't forget to use the fixed OP that an anon posted ITT

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>>42047201
>I vaguely remember having an impression that Soujuurou might have been strangled by someone. Like his mother or something.
I don't remember anything that pointed to this, but it's an interesting alternative to consider. Perhaps when he started questioning things, someone lashed out and tried to dispose of him. Maybe it got broken up and it was just decided that they'd exile him instead. I don't know if it explains his character quite as well, but you could argue his lack of self stems from this world, the only world he ever knew, rejecting him and trying to kill him. And that's why he has no qualms with being killed by Aoko, because he's already experienced someone close to him trying to kill him.

Very interesting indeed, but a bit too sad and tragic for my taste.

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>>42047288
>>42047292
>>42047301
Okay, I added some Mahoyo options.

>>42047346
This one? >>42041020

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>>42047374
I want Aoko/Alice but anything will do.

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>>42047309
You have to remember that she made it as a joke, and did it explicitly to press his buttons. She didn't think he'd actually go through with it.
She may have even been trying to use it as a way for Soujuurou to spill the beans about his neck. Like she expected him to say "Oh I can't wear that because of my injury" and then she'd be able to ask him about.
But since he accepts the collar, she just assumes that must mean that whatever is going on with his neck, it must not be a big deal.

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>>42042886
IHQSMIR.

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>>42047308
sasuga aniplex

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>>42047347
It's the scene where Soujuurou carries Alice home after her fight with Touko. The vision is described vaguely but it sounds like a woman (mother?) strangling him.

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>>42047383
People complained about gay options some threads ago, so I decided to make it strictly hetero for the time being and about couples that weren't posted in a while or just one person, the latter because of Mahoyo.

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>>42047397
This would make Nasu depressed. I hope he hasn't seen it.

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>>42047124
>he couldn't even conceive of the possibility.
Even if I accept this at face value, this still doesn't logically lead to "time to kill myself". After getting kicked out of the assassin camp, it's pretty obvious that there a ton of options to choose from other than "kill myself". This is a really bizzare argument. Anon are you suicidal?
>"Headcanon" is some absurd non-sequitur that has zero basis in the story
The claim that "[h]e did more than just ask a question, clearly" IS headcanon and has zero basis in the story. You quite literally just made it up. Right now, it has exactly the same amount weight as "Soujuurou is trans".
>it that doesn't change the fact that he's willing to throw his life away to protect someone
Most of the planet would probably sacrifice themselves to save some really close to them (this is what happened in the case with Aoko). On its own, this statement means nothing and does not establish a motive for a suicide attempt unless you want to argue it applies to the whole planet.
>Not according to psychological and sociological research on the matter. Have you read Durkheim or not?
No, I don't read garbage pseudoscience that can't be reliably replicated. Also it has nothing to do with the actual dictionary definition of the words.
>Good thing no one said that then.
Well according to "according to psychological and sociological research on the matter" they apparently are all suicidal since it's the same thing...
>You claimed he had no motive to commit suicide and that it doesn't fit his personality. His willingness to sacrifice his own life to protect others is in stark contrast to that.
No this is nonsense. I would 100% be willing to die to protect my family and so would any other decent person with a good family. Nobody would describe this as suicidal. It's completely different set of emotions and completely normal. For Soujuurou, he put himself in harms way for Aoko and Alice (to a lesser extent of course). That's completely normal seeing as they are both the closest people to him. Now let's go back to the Soujuurou suicide attempt. I still think this entire line of reasoning is really weak and I certain would not argue it from this angle if I wanted to get on the suicide theory (for me, lack of purpose is far more likely imo not some abstract self-sacrifice). Let's take the motive question again. You say that Soujuurou would rather kill himself instead of someone else. I can accept this, but then the question becomes, okay WHO was this hypothetical person he was saving. He never had to kill anyone in the assassination camp. The narrative never once implies that he ever did anything beyond training. So the man gets himself kicked out and decides to kill himself because why exactly? He thinks his mere existence will somehow kill some vague mystery person he never met? Nevermind that he already existed for years without harming anyone. It just doesn't make sense and too vague. If Soujuurou did actually try to kill himself, this is definitely not the reason. As for the personality part, it's simply that he's too whimsical and spaced-out so it makes it hard to believe that he would really take his own life without some clear, defined reason. Right now, we don't have one.

>>42047202
>If I live, I'll hurt other people. So instead, I should die
But again, the "hurt other people" didn't happen. As the events are told to us, he was training but never once actually did it or had to do anything deadly. Now sure, Soujuurou is a weird guy but he's not that dumb. He obviously lived just fine for many years without murdering anyone in the mountains. It doesn't make any sense for him to suddenly "welp time to die" without there being further events or some actual reason.

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>>42047374
I don't see any "Huj" in the OP post so that seems correct. If anyone has a link to the current update file then it should be included as well ideally. I don't know if the one in the nyaa link is the current version.

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>>42047405
hmmm i'll have to go back and check that

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>>42047411
Based and thanks for the Mahoyo option

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>>42047430
The nyaa link has the update file.

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There's not a lot of yuri Alice/Aoko art, sadly.

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>>42047441
I know but is that the most recent one for the Switch release? I thought that was just the day-1 patch.

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>>42047455
uh is there something else other than 1.02? That's what that is.

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>>42046657
Wow, this cut scene is still in the remaster and it was voiced. Why voice it and then cut it? So weird.

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>>42047500
Well at least it can be an audio drama now? Did someone just fuck up and they not notice for 10 years?

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>>42047500
They voiced it??? What the fuck? Are you sure it's the same scene?

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>>42047427
>After getting kicked out of the assassin camp
We don't know the exact timeline of events. I'm arguing from the idea that the suicide attempt is what got him kicked out. Here I'll give a potential timeline:
- Soujuurou living his life in the mountains and training
- One day asks why they're doing all this training or where the people that vanish from the village go off to
- Gets told the true purpose of the training/village
- Unable to cope with the idea that his whole life has been spent training to murder other people, he tries to kill himself
- For whatever reason, fails and between his questions and the suicide attempt is sent away form the village
> has zero basis in the story
I literally just explained it. Explain how it doesn't fit or doesn't work. It's a perfectly plausible explanation. I'm not saying you have to recognize it as true, but if you claim it's completely illegitimate you need to explain why.
>Right now, it has exactly the same amount weight as "Soujuurou is trans"
Why are you so belligerent and disingenuous? You know this isn't true. Here I thought we were actually getting somewhere.
>No, I don't read garbage pseudoscience that can't be reliably replicated.
lol. Don't know why you feel the need to wallow in ignorance, but okay. Gives me the feeling you don't read much of anything when you say something so wantonly anti-intellectual. Should have just left it at "no" and I would have tried giving you a basic rundown, but this just tells me I'd be wasting my time.
>So the man gets himself kicked out and decides to kill himself because why exactly?
Your whole point of confusion here is that you can conceptualize the notion that the attempt happened before he got kicked out. For someone who doesn't want to entertain this line of reasoning at all, you seem to have a pretty concrete timeline of events. I really don't understand why this is so difficult for you to understand. He didn't know what the purpose of the training was. One day, he asked and found out. He experiences an existential crisis upon learning that all the awaits him in life is countless killings. He doesn't want to live that life, so he tries to kill himself.
>But again, the "hurt other people" didn't happen
Hence the future tense. I really don't get why this is such a bizarre concept to you. Obviously if he wants to stop himself from ever killing someone, he's going to kill himself BEFORE that happens, not after.
>He obviously lived just fine for many years without murdering anyone in the mountains.
Yeah and he didn't know what his purpose was for most of that time.

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>>42047500
Can you just swap filenames and make it play?

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>>42047512
>>42047523
>>42047653
It doesn’t play in the English version.

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>>42047687
I'm sure it doesn't play in the JP version else I would have seen people talk about it. It's bizarre that they kept the files in the remaster let alone voiced it.

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>>42047718
>It's bizarre that they kept the files in the remaster let alone voiced it.
Not him. I disagree. If they kept it in the game files, they were definitely going to record it. Video game voice acting usually records the entire game, including cut content. This even happens with overseas dubs because the people in charge of the VA recordings don't have any way to know what's cut content and what it is not cut content.

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>>42047718
I’m going to try to just add voices to the old scene and upload it on youtube. It’s hard to mess with the new engine that isn’t as easy as the old one.

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>>42047747
Didn't Nasu and Takeuchi imply they were directly involved with the recording though? Otherwise I get what you're saying.

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>>42047651
>Here I'll give a potential timeline
And this is why I reject this your theory. It doesn't match with what is told in the story at all. Soujuurou is implied to get kicked out basically immediately after he asks the question. When he asks the guy "hey what are we doing anyway", the guy basically says "welp, if you need to ask that, then we have no use for you" and after that, it's over. There is no implication, at any point, that he explained what the true purpose was Soujuurou. Basically, it was said that he just got expelled after that point. Your explanation/timeline relies on the hypothetical sequence of several events that are in NO way implied or told in the story. It's completely made up. This is why I say the word: "headcanon".
>I would have tried giving you a basic rundown
Psychology is not a real science. Let's be honest now. I'm sorry if you wasted your time studying this instead of something actually real.
>you seem to have a pretty concrete timeline of events
My timeline is based on what is actually told in the story from Soujuurou's monologue. It's extremely unlikely he tried to kill himself while in the assassination camp. The "and found out" assertion is not in the narrative at all actually. In fact, the exact opposite is implied. The guy didn't tell him shit. I have no idea why you think he did or would. It makes it much less plausible for Soujuurou to freely walk away from the camp if he actually knew 100% what they were doing. In fact, that only opens up a million questions and plotholes if you want to go that route. It makes no sense.

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>>42047747
Nasu oversaw literally all recording.

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>>42047828
>>42047871
Well, certainly nobody is perfect and oversights can happen even to the best.

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>>42048016
Nasu of all people knows what's in the game though. It can't be an oversight.
I still want to hear the voice clips to make sure they're from the cut scene.

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>>42048068
>I still want to hear the voice clips to make sure they're from the cut scene.
That's fair. But if it is for that cut scene, I wouldn't be surprised for the reasons I've mentioned before.

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>>42047852
> Soujuurou is implied to get kicked out basically immediately after he asks the question.
I don't remember that all. It was vague and we don't even know what exactly he asked, let alone the timeline of events.
>There is no implication, at any point, that he explained what the true purpose was Soujuurou.
Yes there is. Why do you think Soujuurou knows he can't go back there? He doesn't express any sort of confusion as to why he was sent away, and he knows he can never go back. Not because he can't go back to living without electricity and running water, but because of the profound difference in values. That he recognizes that difference at all shows that he's aware of the nature of his village.

Also this is a pretty absurd conjecture for you to be making, since it's never explicitly stated that the group are assassins. Yet unlike the suicide, you take no issue with this particular "headcanon". We're only able to reach this conclusion based off of what Soujuurou himself divulges, and yet you're making the argument that Soujuurou himself is somehow blissfully unaware of this, despite possessing far more information than either you or I.
>Basically, it was said that he just got expelled after that point
Exactly. There was no indication of celerity.
>This is why I say the word: "headcanon".
Stop using that word. It's a crutch to avoid talking about things or actually explaining yourself.
>Psychology is not a real science.
So anything that isn't "real science" (whatever arbitrary distinction that is), is inherently worthless and should not be studied/discussed/thought about? Philosophy isn't science, neither is religion. Do philosophical and religious texts have nothing worthwhile to say about human nature and the human condition? I guess I shouldn't be surprised about your obsession with objectivity and your aversion to thought given our conversations thus far, but it's still sad. It kind of makes me wonder why you'd even bother getting in a discussion like this in the first place, I guess it stems from an obsession about what is "true" and what is "false".
>The "and found out" assertion is not in the narrative at all actually
It blatantly is though. The fact that he asks the question at all shows that he had doubts and wasn't just blindly accepting things like you seem to think he was. Even if it goes down exactly like you think it did, that's basically a tacit admission from whoever he asked. He wouldn't just stop thinking and say "Well, guess I'll never know then". He'd draw conclusions. Like I said, if both you and I can draw this conclusion from far less information, what makes you think he's incapable of drawing the same conclusion?

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>>42047828
>Didn't Nasu and Takeuchi imply they were directly involved with the recording though? Otherwise I get what you're saying.

Nasu and Takeuchi were directly involved with the recording of all TM works.

>Nasu: When I reread that old material, I thought, "Ah, I'm looking the users straight in the eye. Look at how frankly I'm laying out what I want to say through this story," and I got this weird feeling of, "So that's the sort of person Old Me was." It's embarrassing, but it's like I"m admitting defeat, that i'ts something that Current-day Me can't do. That said, shoving your main theme down the audience's throat is bad in terms of anime structure. After all, it's entertainment. It's transmission that's going out to hundreds of thousands of people with different dispositions and tastes, so I want to start by gradually tuning them in to my wavelength and getting them to enjoy this anime. So I think the ideal outcome would be that they'll stick with us on this slow burner, or "long single story," and the theme will ultimately get across. Game and anime are different in that respect, too.

Also Nasu wrote a lot of DEEN shit, by the way, and we have interviews to prove it

>Nasu working closely with ufo
>admits the VN came on too strong in UBW interview
>preferred Miura's vision of a single flowing over the VN puzzle
>The one "Nasu-to-Miura" request I made was, "Please change the Noble Phantasms."
>Nasu: The first script that ufotable brought to me had a lot of sentences lifted from the original game, but since we'd just end up replicating those scenes, I realized that I had to retool it for the anime. But when I rewrote it myself, it was just cool, and not compelling at all. So when I re-read the original game, it was totally grim. That's when I realized that that was the essence of UBW, and the lines that took 30 minutes for the characters to utter in-game, I cut down to five. But I had no idea how it would be brought to the screen, so in my head I was thinking "Sorry, Mr Miura," but it turned out to be a wonderful film, and personally, I'm overjoyed.
>映像を信じていない、映像を見せられると自分の矛盾やウソを突きつけられると語ったきのこに『俺の文章はこ ういう絵に出来るのか』と思わせたhf……本当にすごいと改めて思った…
>At first, Nasu didn't believe HF could make for a good movie, and that seeing it animated would just expose his lies and inconsistencies, but seeing Sudou's adaptation amazed him and made him think "So my writing can be be turned into art like this?".
>これが先に出来ていたらCCCは無かったと言わしめる
>According to Nasu, if the HF movies had come out first, he would never have made CCC.

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>>42048129
>>At first, Nasu didn't believe HF could make for a good movie, and that seeing it animated would just expose his lies and inconsistencies, but seeing Sudou's adaptation amazed him and made him think "So my writing can be be turned into art like this?".
Has there ever been a Japanese writer that doesn't come across as a complete retard in interviews?

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>Mahoyo uses Opus
Did Type-Moon comply with the BSD license?
Why do they use that format instead of Vorbis or MP3?

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Can't wait for the Mahoyo movie to completely butcher the original
>action scenes will manage to look worse
>10/10 music will be replaced
>most of the slow character building scenes will be cut

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>>42048221
Francis Fukuyama :^).

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>>42048252
UBW is the gold standard of Nasuverse adaptions.

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>>42048252
and the retards on /a/ will slurp it up and beg for more and you'll get nasu saying inane sychophantic shit like this >>42048129 about it

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>>42048283
DEEN*

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>>42048283
It's KnK actually.

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>>42048291
Based DEEN UBW thad.

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>>42048129
>but seeing Sudou's adaptation amazed him and made him think "So my writing can be be turned into art like this?"
And I'm supposed to think that a person that expresses opinions like this can't ever have a single oversight during the recording of a 30 hour VN.

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>>42048353
lol true

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>but seeing Sudou's adaptation disgusted him and made him think "People actually think these garbage adaptations are actually good?"
Nasu went a bit too far there

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>>42048252
Why are you like this?

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>>42048353
Yes?

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>>42048432
Can you imagine if a Japanese writer or mangaka had the balls to say something like this? The sheer meltdown would be hilarious.

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>>42048471
Wasn't the first Doraemon anime memory holed because the original creators didn't like it or something?

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>>42048353
Nasu is the guy that must have noticed this inconsistency >>42047327 in making the remaster, so yeah I doubt he's unaware an entire scene isn't in the final product.

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>>42048493
Yeah, Japan is weird. Like there's that Phantom Blood movie that never released because Araki hated it.
I guess as a creator you can just axe something and sweep it under the rug if you think it's that bad, but if you're "impolite" and talk shit about it in public then you're an asshole.

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>>42048528
Nevermind, it turns out it was not.
>While Hiroshi Fujimoto (aka "Fujiko F") was disappointed in the choice of studio to adapt Doraemon and the changes made to Nobita and Doraemon's characters, it is said that upon the closing of the NTV studio, he did not hold any hard feelings against the staff and expressed the hope that they could work on a new attempt at Doraemon in the future.
However, Shogakukan does not like the original anime.
>This version was briefly rebroadcast in 1981 but was abruptly pulled off television by order of Shogakukan, who did not want the new adaptation's reputation to be affected by the existence of the previous one, or for child viewers to be confused with the two different versions. It is possible that recorded videos from this time period may exist in some form.

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>>42048126
>I don't remember that all.
It's right here. I don't have the remaster completed yet so bear with the old PC screenshot. My paraphrase/memory of the old man's phrase was incorrect. It's more like "you continued all along without needing a reason but there's there's no reason to stop you now" (slight joke). Right after Soujuurou asks the question (which is some form of why), it's very clearly stated that arrangements are made for him to live outside of the mountain and to go away. There's no reason to think he stayed for an significant period of time after this. There's no indication or reason to think the exact details of what was going on was revealed to him either (again, this would be pretty plothole-ish: why would they tell him now all of a sudden? why would they let him go scott-free if he knows everything that's going on, etc.). It's very clear that he was immediately disqualified from the camp as soon as he asked that question. The timeline you give of asking why, followed by being told the purpose, then a period of self-reflection, and then getting out simply doesn't fit. It's not valid.
>Why do you think Soujuurou knows he can't go back there?
Because they kicked him out?
>Also this is a pretty absurd conjecture for you to be making, since it's never explicitly stated that the group are assassins.
Oh please don't be stupid. You and I both know that the description of the events are extremely similar to Kuzuki's past in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia.
>Even if it goes down exactly like you think it did, that's basically a tacit admission from whoever he asked. He wouldn't just stop thinking and say "Well, guess I'll never know then". He'd draw conclusions.
Why do you keep doing this dumb shit? This is not what I said. Of course, Soujuurou has some guesses about what was happening. I never once disputed that. Your quote was "One day, he asked and found out." I specifically reject the claim that he "found out" as in, "someone told him what was going on". That's what that sentence implies in normal English. No him told him anything. There's no indicate of that in the text and there is reason to think so. This is a big hole in your theory.

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>>42048577
no reason you can't stop now*

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>>42048577
>why would they let him go scott-free if he knows everything that's going on
This doesn't really stop at him knowing the true nature of the village though. Why would they let him go at all? Why not just kill him? He knows where the village is located, it'd be a problem if he told someone where it is.

The fact that they let him go with no strings attached is suspicious. That seems to indicate that he did something that convinced them he wouldn't be a problem. Know what would convince them that he's not a problem they need to worry about? If they already thought he was dead for some reason.
>Of course, Soujuurou has some guesses about what was happening
So your assertion that none of this could happen because they'd never just "let him walk away" is pointless. Or do you think the assassins are stupid and can't draw conclusions?
> This is a big hole in your theory.
Not really. What actual difference is there in "Someone flat out told him" and "He figured it out himself"? The result is the same.

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Is there any official Type-Moon content that got memory holed?

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>>42048710
>This doesn't really stop at him knowing the true nature of the village though.
It absolutely does. Unless Soujuurou played detective offscreen (zero indication of this), he doesn't know anything beyound conjecture. In fact, if we go with the theory that this is the same kind of organization that trained Kuzuki in F/HA (again, highly likely given how similar the described events between the two are), as readers we actually have more information that Soujuurou.

>He knows where the village is located
You don't know that. It's entirely possible he doesn't.

>The fact that they let him go with no strings attached is suspicious. That seems to indicate that he did something that convinced them he wouldn't be a problem. Know what would convince them that he's not a problem they need to worry about? If they already thought he was dead for some reason.
No. This is literally just wrong. They explicitly made arrangements for Soujuurou to live outside of the mountains. It says so in the text. We don't know why they let him go scot free, but presumably he simply didn't know enough about what was going on.
>So your assertion that none of this could happen because they'd never just "let him walk away" is pointless.
There's a big difference between vague guesses and "let me spoonfeed you everything we do". As I already mentioned earlier, readers likely have a better guess than Soujuurou himself does.
>Not really. What actual difference is there in "Someone flat out told him" and "He figured it out himself"? The result is the same.
It completely changes the timeline. If you presume he "figured it out himself", then this had to have occurred sometime before he asked the question. This, in and of itself, is not implausible but you're insisting that he did a suicide attempt at some point (before he asked the question because he was pretty clearly kicked out soon after it). However, the narrative doesn't indicate this. If he tried to kill himself, why doesn't the old man mention it? Why does it take a question to get him kicked out and not the act of suicide? It still doesn't fit.

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>>42048806
When was the last time Type-Moon reprinted the original version of Tsukihime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42048806
Kagetsu Tohya

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>>42048341
>Based DEEN UBW thad.

Say something nice about DEEN UBW

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>>42048932
It has a very hot Rin.

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>>42048806

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>>42048932
Archer vs Shirou
OST

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>>42048825
>You don't know that. It's entirely possible he doesn't.
Are you fucking stupid?
He 100% knows where it is, just because he may not know where on a map doesn't change that he knows the fucking terrain, the stars, the sky, etc. probably for miles. Do you actually think before you type or are just so deadset on playing the contrarian that you can't take five seconds to actually entertain and examine a notion before you fly to deny it?
>They explicitly made arrangements for Soujuurou to live outside of the mountains.
Who is "They" though? How do you know this was a communal consensus and not maybe one or two people who took pity on him and decided to help him?
>but presumably he simply didn't know enough about what was going on
Why not just play it safe though?
>As I already mentioned earlier, readers likely have a better guess than Soujuurou himself does.
No. You're just being belligerently stupid now. He lived there for YEARS. He's not stupid, or else he never would have started asking questions to begin with. Again, why do you think he was asking questions in the first place? Because he was bored? Because he just felt like it? He doesn't tell Aoko everything in his brief little confession, and he's intentionally vague, I have no idea why you're taking it at 100% face value.
>before he asked the question because he was pretty clearly kicked out soon after it
You already admitted this was wrong, and "soon" is completely meaningless. What is "soon"? A week? A day? Hours?
>If he tried to kill himself, why doesn't the old man mention it?
Why would he? And maybe he did. For how much you were crying "WE DON'T KNOW" earlier, you seem to know everything about what happened when Soujuurou was in the village now. We never see any of Soujuurou's life in the village in an actual scene, all this information is coming from brief, fractured flashbacks, dream sequences and what he tells Aoko.
>Why does it take a question to get him kicked out and not the act of suicide?
What? One of my arguments was literally that the act of suicide was what got him kicked out.

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Just to make sure: are you supposed to read ALL of the 1.5 chapters in the Archive after finishing episode 1?

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>>42049074
Yeah
You only get a group of chapters a couple times, most of the time it's just a small side chapter

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>>42049074
They can be read at any time, I'd just read them as soon as they unlock though.

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>>42048825

>You don't know that. It's entirely possible he doesn't.

mf he literally can tell just looking at the sky of what time it is.you keep doing mental gymnastic here

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I still hope for a source code leak/release of Fate/stay night and Fate/hollow ataraxia.

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>>42048997
It was a mistake seriously engaging you. I should have kept on insulting you. This is getting really stupid now. I could be reading Mahoyo instead of this.

>just because he may not know where on a map
Uh, that's a really fucking important dude. That's not just a small detail you gloss over. Are you fucking stupid? I could have hypothetically lived for years in the Rocky Mountains someplace. That doesn't mean I actually know exactly where the location is. "Hey there's murderers in the rocky mountains!" is not exactly useful information. It's completely probable that Soujuurou has no idea where exactly it's located in the "mountains" (Japan has a lot of mountains; it's not like this narrows anything down meaningfully). They could trivially have transported him out in a manner that would not clue in on the exact location. Why did you make such a big personal attack out of a small remark from me. Did you actually think about this for two seconds?
>Who is "They" though? How do you know this was a communal consensus and not maybe one or two people who took pity on him and decided to help him?
This is called being a pedantic retard. Stop doing this. By "they" I mean, the presumable organization that organized whatever was going on the mountains. The old man mentioned in the text clearly has enough power to do so because right after Soujuurou asks the question, it's arranged for him to live out of the mountains, get registered in the 戸籍, get an apartment, etc.
>Why not just play it safe though?
Well they didn't kill him so evidently they didn't play it safe. Wait for Mahoyo 2 and maybe this will be explained.
>No. You're just being belligerently stupid now. He lived there for YEARS.
Training sure. But he didn't know what they were actually doing or training for. That's why he asked. It's extremely unlikely Soujuurou (or anyone else training there really) knew any real background details about the place. The text makes it pretty clear that they were just doing the same thing mindlessly over and over ever day. Soujuurou mentions that some of the things he saw were clearly strange when he thinks about it now, but at least at the time he initially saw it, he didn't think much of it. At some unspecified point later, he asks the big question (presumably there are some internal doubts beforehand but we don't know the exact details) which gets him kicked out. If merely asking that is enough to get anyone thrown out, it's only natural to conclude that: 1. they (the organization people) don't teach shit about what's happening. And 2. it's not common to ask questions. As for Soujuurou's word, yes of course I am trusting it. Since when was he the character to lie? Why would I not take it at face value? You may guess that other things possibly occurred (sure the neck injury happened at some point but we don't know when or why), but we don't have enough info.
>You already admitted this was wrong
What are you talking about? I was following your hypothetical timeline. As for soon, we don't know the exact number, but again, the text pretty clearly shows that asking that question is what directly lead Soujuurou to getting kicked out. If you're assuming he did a suicide attempt while in the camp, this most likely should have happened before the big question unless you're really trying to argue that he tried to kill himself in the vague period between the conversation with the old man and him actually leaving (this makes even less sense if you go this route).
>you seem to know everything about what happened when Soujuurou was in the village now
Again no. I'm just going by the events that are shown in the text. This is not a complicated concept. When you assume that secretly other things happened in a way that doesn't fit the given information or has some weird contradictions, of course I will point it out.
>What? One of my arguments was literally that the act of suicide was what got him kicked out.
And... this is wrong. I posted a screenshot that clearly shows that him asking どうして is what got him kicked out. You need to fix your theory.

>>42049119
uhhh, anyone can do that. Are you retarded? That's just the sun's position in the sky. what the hell? do you people think navigation in the wilderness is just trivial or something? Go hiking sometime.

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>>42049214
>Uh, that's a really fucking important dude
No, not really. It's obviously somewhere in the general vicinity of Misaki, which narrows down the location a lot more than your stupid Rocky Mountains (which are bigger than the entirety of Japan by the way, you strike as someone who would actually not know that). And when it comes to "secluded and isolated mountain villages", someone who knows the lay of the land and the terrain around the place is a lot more compromising than some fucking GPS coordinates. I can tell you've never been outside or done any sort of hiking or land navigation.
>They could trivially have transported him out in a manner that would not clue in on the exact location.
What with a car or something? Blindfold him and throw him in the back of a van? Take him by helicopter? Oh wait.
>This is called being a pedantic retard
holy fuck lmao, pot meet kettle.
>By "they" I mean, the presumable organization that organized whatever was going on the mountains.
Okay, but how do you know that? You have no idea if it was a decision by an organization or if someone just helped him.
>The old man mentioned in the text clearly has enough power to do so because right after Soujuurou asks the question, it's arranged for him to live out of the mountains, get registered in the 戸籍, get an apartment, etc.
Not really, you're just making assumptions. It's possible that he helped Soujuurou of his own volition and it was not some unanimous decision by the village like you've been implying.
>Since when was he the character to lie? Why would I not take it at face value?
He's not, and that's not what I suggested. You whined about me being "pedantic" but I think that's just your inner guilt at how often you resort to shit like this. It's obvious he did not give a super-detailed account and there was a lot of information omitted, as you admit to multiple times in this post.
>unless you're really trying to argue that he tried to kill himself in the vague period between the conversation with the old man and him actually leaving (this makes even less sense if you go this route)
lol why? You always make these bold proclamations with zero explanation behind them. Explain to me why you think this village that is completely cut off from society and is isolated in the mountains can arrange to have this kid transported outside and have complete living arrangements with any sort of celerity. Do you seriously think this all went down in the span of five minutes or something?
>Again no. I'm just going by the events that are shown in the text.
You aren't though. You're making assumptions just as much as I am. See above. You have no way of knowing that Soujuurou getting kicked out was some unanimous decision by the village authorities. You have no idea of knowing the exact time period between him asking the question and him leaving the village, yet you're convinced for some reason that it's insignificant when there's real no indication of such.
>I posted a screenshot that clearly shows that him asking どうして is what got him kicked out
You are just offensively stupid at this point. I don't know why I have to explain writing at a grade school level to you. Soujuurou is not a reliable narrator, so his explanation for why he thinks he got kicked may not necessarily be the actual reason he got kicked out.
>do you people think navigation in the wilderness is just trivial or something? Go hiking sometime.
lol are you fucking for real? You're the one who apparently thinks that.

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QRD on all those long posts?

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>>42049438
Do you really want to know?

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>>42049438
you don't want to know.

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>>42049438
they're arguing about whether or not Soujuurou tried to kill himself prior to Mahoyo (i.e. what the fuck is up with the bandages around his neck)

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>>42049397
here we go again

>It's obviously somewhere in the general vicinity of Misaki
This is literally not stated or implied anywhere. We have no clue where it is.
>What with a car or something?
Uh, walk to a road, put a blindfold him and drive him somewhere. Really, really trivial dude. We both seem to agree that they probably wouldn't want to reveal their exact location so why wouldn't they do this?
>You have no idea if it was a decision by an organization or if someone just helped him.
The alternative would be the "old man" acting independently. I mean okay it's not impossible, but it seems less likely. He would have to go behind the organization's back, etc. and etc. The most likely explanation is simply that he was allowed to do what he did. I don't see why you're making a big deal of this.
>not some unanimous decision by the village
I have not typed or implied this anywhere.
>Explain to me why you think this village that is completely cut off from society and is isolated in the mountains can arrange to have this kid transported outside and have complete living arrangements with any sort of celerity.
What do you consider fast? A week? A month? Nasuworld is full of big organizations that can pull shady shit backhanded. I'm perplexed why you're convinced this has to take a super long time at all.
>yet you're convinced for some reason that it's insignificant when there's real no indication of such.
It's certainly much, much less time then the amount of time he spent living there. I mean what are you even trying to get at this point? Secretly years passed between the conversation with the old man and Soujuurou leaving? It's literally immediately the next line of text. In typical chronological storytelling, this implies it happened relatively soon unless stated otherwise.
>was some unanimous decision by the village authorities
I have not once stated this anywhere.
>Soujuurou is not a reliable narrator
And this assessment is based on what? Your feelings? Do you think Soujuurou is being dishonest or what?
> You're the one who apparently thinks that.
what the fuck? do you even read my posts, I'm arguing the exact opposite

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I haven't been keeping up with the argument but I want to point out that in the flashback when Soujuurou piggybacks Alice home (which is likely the scene where he gets the neck wound), Soujuurou is a very young child.

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>>42049214
>I could be reading Mahoyo instead of this.

you should cause you clearly forgot that souujuurou fucking strangle himself subconciously after being revived


>>do you people think navigation in the wilderness is just trivial or something? Go hiking sometime.
Exactly!! you absolute fucking moron

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>>42049508
>souujuurou fucking strangle himself subconciously after being revived
and we don't know why

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>>42049524
>and we don't know why

any fucking person can piece that together that it has something to do with his days in the mountain that he clearly did try to "kill" himself

>42049501
just like this dude who understand behind his neck wound

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>>42049593
>it has something to do with his days in the mountain
yes
>that he clearly did try to "kill" himself
this isn't clear at all

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>>42049609
bro he fucking "strangle" himself what more do you want?

>this isn't clear at all

then fucking tell me why did he even do that?

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>>42049498
>This is literally not stated or implied anywhere. We have no clue where it is.
Okay, but why would you think it's in fucking Hokkaido or something?
>and drive him somewhere
lol
Are you serious? The isolated mountain village divorced from the modern world is just right by a road where they can call an uber, got it.
>What do you consider fast? A week? A month?
I don't know bro, but you seem to be suggesting that this happened in the span of five minutes. I don't know why you think it's such an impossibility that he tried to kill himself within a few days or even hours.
>It's certainly much, much less time then the amount of time he spent living there
Of course? Where have I ever suggested otherwise?
>I mean what are you even trying to get at this point?
That's my line. You're the only one postulating this timeline of years.
>Do you think Soujuurou is being dishonest or what?
Why is dishonesty the one and only thing you can jump to? He's ignorant and dense, and is blatantly shown to misunderstand the things that occur around him, and the intentions of other people.
> do you even read my posts, I'm arguing the exact opposite
No, you were pretty clearly downplaying Soujuurou's intimate knowledge of the surrounding area. And I'm not the guy you responded to there, but your response to him is completely nonsensical. You tell him that determining the time of day based on the sun's position in the sky is something anyone can do, and then immediately contradict yourself saying "do you people think navigation in the wilderness is just trivial or something?"

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so you think strangling ain't considered a killing

u fking high?

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Can anyone post SFW homoerotic (male or female) fan art please?

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>...

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Just started chapter 9 in mahoyo. How many chapters are left

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>...

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>>42049649
>but why would you think it's in fucking Hokkaido or something?
Uh, Japan has a lot mountain ranges. Who said anything about Hokkaido? There's a huge variety of places in the typical mainland (whatever the term is forgive me) where it could be.
>is just right by a road
Again, I didn't type this once. Obviously, Soujuurou left the mountains to go to the city so he encountered a road at some point.
>but you seem to be suggesting that this happened in the span of five minutes
I have not.
>I don't know why you think it's such an impossibility that he tried to kill himself within a few days or even hours
Why would he kill himself while they are making arrangements for him leaving camp and starting a new life? This makes less sense clearly.
>He's ignorant and dense, and is blatantly shown to misunderstand the things that occur around him
So what did he misunderstand about the things he described exactly. Be precise.
>You tell him that determining the time of day based on the sun's position in the sky is something anyone can do, and then immediately contradict yourself saying "do you people think navigation in the wilderness is just trivial or something?"
Holy shit are you fucking retarded. Do you not realize these are two completely unrelated skills? Jesus fuck. You can be lost in the middle of the desert and know the time of day by looking at the location of the sun. It's not rocket science. It doesn't mean you aren't fucking lost. Unironically, go touch grass.

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>>42049671
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>>42031280
>>42031266

I've once had a 1 hour discussion with someone about this that ended in them accusing me of not reading the VN and me not giving a fuck anymore. It isn't "bonus content" if there are many things clearly intended to be more fleshed out and even a reference to a thing that happened in the sequels (tobimaru's arm). Everyone seems to forget Nasu wrote a large book and also has very clearly stated his intent in adapting mahoyo as three VNs since the beggining.

Saying it isn't complete isn't a jab at Mahoyo, it is my favourite piece of media and a story that finishes the plot points it creates, it isn't complete in a broader sense, not to the storytelling's detriment. It is just a matter of clearly intending, even if only taking in consideration what is said inside it, to flesh out more ideas inside it.
>Alice's family and the first magic
>Souji's backstory (who is the person mentioned for taking him from the mountains)
>Red shadow thingy
>Eiri's history with the Aozakis (those who read the VN know what specifically)
And most importantly >The summer affair mentioned in sweets hearts

You all can consider it complete all you want, these points stated above are enough for me to see it as "incomplete" according to what I see as completion in this case. If you disagree you are either talking about a different type of completeness than me, or, idk, is wrong to me I guess. Give me a barrage of (you)s and you still won't convince me otherwise

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In the famitsu interview Koyama said he felt bad they hadn't released the Mahoyo sequels after 10 whole years. Nasu didn't mention them.

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>>42049680
>Uh, Japan has a lot mountain ranges.
It really doesn't, especially with the way Soujuurou disqualifies Misaki as being "in the mountains".
>I have not.
Then why do you act as if it's an utterly impossible and inconceivable notion. You're the one who has kept bringing up the timeframe.
>Why would he kill himself while they are making arrangements for him leaving camp and starting a new life? This makes less sense clearly.
Why would he kill himself when he's getting forcibly removed from the only world he's ever known? And after he possibly found out that his entire life he's been trained to be a killer? What a mystery..........
>Do you not realize these are two completely unrelated skills?
Of course I do, I just have no idea why you brought them up in the same breath in the way you did. You're also just wrong by the way, tons of people can't tell the time of day by looking at the sun, beyond just morning and evening. And having a general idea of what time it is isn't the same as being able to tell the precise time by the sun's location, which is what that other guy you were replying to was referencing in regards to Soujuurou.
>Unironically, go touch grass.
I'm not a larper, kid. I've been paid to do this shit.

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I hope Sono-G will make it in MB after Mahoyo anime release. Just to break some buck.

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>>42049740
>mahoyo character in Melty Blood
lmfao
they put random FGO characters in to coincide with the rerelease, why do you think they're ever going to put Mahayo characters in after that

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>>42049712
Btw, I'm not the person arguing about Souji being dead, and while that discussion is related to the topic it doesn't prove nor disprove anything in it. So whatever.

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>>42049751
>they put random FGO characters in to coincide with the rerelease
Make sense, they don't want to spoil it the VN day one.

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>>42049733
Japan has 40% to 60% mountains according to this map. That's way more than plenty stop this.
>Why would he kill himself when he's getting forcibly removed from the only world he's ever known?
Did you just completely forget your previous argument? I didn't so I will point this out. You said that Soujuurou would kill himself to prevent having to kill a person in the future. However, if he's being taken out of the camp, this dilemma is no longer a thing obviously. Now you're completely changing the original reason you argued for the suicide attempt to a new one.
>I just have no idea why you brought them up in the same breath in the way you did
That wasn't me. That was the other guy who brought it up. He went "hurr durr soujuurou can tell time he knows where it is!" Please read the posts carefully next time.
>tons of people can't tell the time of day by looking at the sun
That's just because they haven't practiced due to modern life. It was a universal skill before.

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>>42049764
>dating Alice
This would be one of the most boring dates in existence. That womanchild's only hobby is reading outdated books for little kids.

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>>42049775
sounds like the perfect woman to me

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>>42049768
Chilebros...

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>>42048932
Archer vs. Shirou was a hell of lot more fun than Ufotable's version. Arguing while fighting without pauses is always kino, and with the best version of EMIYA to boot. Ufotable seriously could not compete and was a borefest

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>>42049731
source?

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>>42049751
>they put random FGO characters
We knew they will put them because of Neco-Arc. Sadly leak was true. I expected to see MHXX

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>>42049790
The whole thing is on nyaa.

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What would be a Fate (non-FGO) GTA clone be like?

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>>42049775
>Not fervently wanting to discuss a book over a warm cup of tea with your cold gazed, tsundere gf in her impeccably furnished manor.
No prob anon, leave her to me

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>>42049792
>I expected to see MHXX
I would have clapped if it was her instead of Nagito Komaeda or Yoshitsune

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>>42049775
>This would be one of the most boring dates in existence.
Good, I am as boring as her, if not more.

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Aoko explaining Sneed Feed and Seed to Soujuurou.

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>>42049806
A Persona style light JRPG-VN style game probably
>special HGW where masters can summon multiple servants
>life-sim aspects and a calendar system
>MC furthering his bonds with his servants and other friendly masters
>forming alliances with masters who have their own sets of servants
Don't make it an actual open world though, just separate it into hubs.

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>>42049816
Gudako would be great too.

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>>42049775
She must learn the way of D

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>>42049775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwIp_Fb_coQ
Mahoyo 3 leak

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>>42049806
Imagine a Yakuza-like game with Lancer as the MC; beating up chinpira while also helping everyone in Fuyuki City and taking various jobs.

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>>42049768
>Japan has 40% to 60% mountains according to this map. That's way more than plenty stop this.
Japan is smaller than California. And "this map" probably doesn't have the same exacting standards for what constitutes "mountains" that Soujuuro does. Go look up an actual topographical map of Japan.
>Did you just completely forget your previous argument?
No, I'm just not so in love with it that I'm unwilling to entertain alternatives. I don't really agree with your interpretation of Soujuurou's recollections, but it's useless to try to argue with you on that point. It's more conducive to meet you half way and argue the main point based on your own suppositions.
>this dilemma is no longer a thing obviously.
That specific dilemma, but that doesn't mean learning the truth about it is no longer traumatic.
>Now you're completely changing the original reason you argued for the suicide attempt to a new one.
You say that like it's an indictment, but it just shows there's multiple possibilities and explanations behind why Soujuurou may have committed suicide. Which just strengthens the notion that he did attempt to commit suicide.
>That wasn't me. That was the other guy
You were the one who downplayed Soujuurou's intimate knowledge of the area surrounding his village as trivial and unimportant. You'll have to forgive me if I got confused when you suddenly about-faced and pretended you were an outdoorsman.

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>>42049854
>Soujuurou may have committed suicide
attempted*

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>>42049810
>tsundere
how

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>>42049854
>Japan is smaller than California
Irrelevant to the point.
>Go look up an actual topographical map of Japan.
Where the hell are you going with this? Who the fuck tries to argue that Japan somehow doesn't have an abundance of mountains to seclude yourself away? Look at the red area. That's plenty of fucking land.
>No, I'm just not so in love with it that I'm unwilling to entertain alternatives.
Better starting working on the alternatives since your original formulated timeline and theory is completely incorrect.
>but that doesn't mean learning the truth about it is no longer traumatic
You don't know if he "learned the truth" at all. You don't know if this was the cause for a suicide attempt either. If it was, that just opens up a lot of questions.
>it just shows there's multiple possibilities and explanations behind why Soujuurou may have committed suicide. Which just strengthens the notion that he did attempt to commit suicide.
No, it shows pretty much exactly the opposite. If your theory isn't solid and has holes in it, you're supposed to reconsider your premise.
>Soujuurou's intimate knowledge of the area surrounding his village as trivial and unimportant
oh my god why is this so hard to understand let me greentext this for you:
>hey souji we're going bye-bye let's go 50 miles north
>they find a road
>car pulls up and put soujuurou in it with a blindfold and drives him to who the fuck knows where
There, you just hide the location. It's THAT simple. jesus fuck why did we have to make an ordeal out of this. Soujuurou might know a lot about that particular area, but if he doesn't know where it is located (again, completely plausible) it's not helpful at all unless he magically winds up there somehow.

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If you expect a sensual, kinetic, visually exciting movie version of Nasu's renowned 1996 epic novel, be prepared for kino.

How long until /tmg/ hates it?

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>>42049893
Yes I am sure they will focus on the slow burn SoL that they cut out in every other adaptation, surely they won't focus on the epic fight scenes at all

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>>42049897
>slow burn

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>>42049893
If they include a lot of homobait, I'm watching it. Otherwise, I will sleep instead.

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Saber vs. Rider was good in the movies. It was way more flashy than the VN, but it did keep all the important bits.

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>>42049893
Think they'll try and finish the series as a movie, instead of Part 2 and 3 of a VN?
Also there is no way the story will be covered in only one movie.

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>>42049893
If it's two or more movies, I'll probably like it. If it's one, it's guaranteed kuso.

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>>42049924
>it's guaranteed kuso.

Why do primaries always hate Nasuverse adaptions?

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>>42049929
>Why do primaries always hate Nasuverse adaptions?
Not him. From what I've watched, the only anime I abhor is the second Heaven's Feel movie.

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>>42049935
but that's the best HF movie

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In true Mahoyo style they should announce a trilogy of movies adapting the story but only release one.

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>>42049935
>the only anime I abhor is the second Heaven's Feel movie.

It surpassed the VN.

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the Mahoyo sequel will be a movie.

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>>42049940
I don't care.

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>>42049948
Honestly if it's as well done as say KnK 5, I would be OK with this.

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STOP REPLYING TO SURVEYPOSTER YOU FUCKING RETARDS

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>>42049964
>I am not supposed to reply to the surveyposter
>I am not supposed to reply to the gook
>I am not supposed to reply to the /fgog/ trolls
>I am not supposed to reply the /vn/ tourists
>I am not supposed to reply to Aokofag
>I am not supposed to reply to the Rinschizo
At this rate I won't be able to reply to anyone in /tmg/...

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>>42049882
>That's plenty of fucking land.
I mean, not really. That's a pretty small area that narrows things down pretty considerably. Especially when you factor in things like the remoteness and population of surrounding areas. It's not like all that red is completely uninhabited.
>Better starting working on the alternatives since your original formulated timeline and theory is completely incorrect.
According to what lmao? I thought you just made concessions that the original timeline I put forth was correct since you have no argument for why the suicide couldn't have taken place between the conversation he had and when he got taken away from the village.
>You don't know if he "learned the truth" at all.
We already went over this. You gave up on it so I assume you accepted it.
>If your theory isn't solid and has holes in it
lol that's not what was said, I just said that I'm not interested in debating irrelevant details that you refuse to budge on. The timeline of events really isn't that important to me anyway.
>but if he doesn't know where it is located
If he knows what the stars look like, he may as well have the latitude and longitude. This argument is stupid anyway. We can argue all day about just how difficult it would be to pinpoint, but the fact is that it's possible. If they cared about being found, they never would have let him go. So either A). They don't care B). Someone went behind their backs and spirited Soujuurou away unbeknownst to the organization as a whole or C). for some reason they're no longer worried about him (e.g. they think he's dead).

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>>42049929
It's a new wave of posters. Adaptations were not hated like this back in old days. But during UBW we had schizo from MAL shitting on every fucking frame every second in every thread every week. The crazy purism as you can say. Very different from japs who take it more easy.

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>>42049970
Don't worry, at least you will be able to sleep.

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>>42049977
>But during UBW we had schizo from MAL shitting on every fucking frame every second in every thread every week. The crazy purism as you can say. Very different from japs who take it more easy.

Did you forget the hate Spring Song got?

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>>42049962
>Honestly if it's as well done as say KnK 5
KnK 5 did butcher LN tho. No one just cares to shit on it.

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>>42049977
>Adaptations were not hated like this back in old days.
People literally go into an apoplectic fit if you so much as suggest that the Tsukihime anime is merely mediocre.

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>>42049987
Tsukihime anime had great ost. It also was best-seller in Japan. Same for FSN. But I personally enjoy "defending" Tsukihime anime for sport.

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>>42049970
you can reply to me

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>>42049977
>>42049987
Also people turned on DEEN/stay night hard after the VN got translated and it was considered a shitty adaptation up until ufotable UBW came out and some people started coming back around to it, so I have no idea what you're talking about. UBW movie was pretty maligned too.

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>>42049996
kek same
I don't think it's really good or anything, but it's just a bog standard disappointing VN adaptation.

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>>42049977
>>42050000
>Also people turned on DEEN/stay night hard after the VN got translated and it was considered a shitty adaptation up until ufotable UBW came out and some people started coming back around to it, so I have no idea what you're talking about. UBW movie was pretty maligned too.

DEEN/stay night:
>mainly Fate with UBW and HF elements thrown in there

Fate/Zero
>They skipped most of Saber vs Lancelot, changed Kiritsugu vs Kotomine from a fight in a burning building to the Batcave, skipped Gilgamesh intimidating the grail with his charisma, and completely changed Kariya's death scene to make Sakura look bad
>Rin defeats a Master and saves kids who were killed in the novel
>Kiritsugu vs Kirei in the batcave instead of a burning parking lot
>Sakura looking down at Kariya derisively instead of up at him helplessly when he dies

HF movies:
>heavily truncated adaptation that shifts around order of events, changes a lot of details and cuts out a lot of scenes from the VN

UBW 2014:
>adapts most scenes faithfully
>most word for word recreations of scenes out of all the adaptations
>the biggest changes are anime original scenes written by Nasu
>basically nothing except bad ends and scenes you access by making the "wrong" choice are omitted - off the top of my head, some of the dreams Rin has of Archer's life are not in the anime but that's about it
>inner thoughts of characters and statements in the narration are spoken out loud in dialogue - Shirou's explanation for why he defeats Gilg is spoken to him rather than something Shirou explains in his monologues for the audience's sake like in the VN

Apocrypha
>Apocrypha is genuinely a pretty good story but trying to fit into 25 episodes really screwed it over big time

UfoBW is indisputably the most faithful VN route adaptation ever.

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>>42049970
Don't forget to not reply to people focusing the discussion around fate and not solely Tsuki and Mahoyo content.

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>>42049973
>I mean, not really.
That's literally thousands of square miles of area. Are you fucking insane? How is that narrowing down at all? How are you going to find anyone there.
>I thought you just made concessions that the original timeline I put forth was correct
??? I already explained in depth with the original timeline was wrong.
>you have no argument for why the suicide couldn't have taken place between the conversation he had and when he got taken away from the village
This is completely new and again, is not based on anything at all. You're assuming that A) he learned "the truth" (nothing indicates this. In fact, the opposite is indicated) and B) that it made him depressed or something because not having to be a killer anymore somehow made him depressed (what?). It doesn't make any sense at all. I'm not anti "Soujuurou tried to kill himself" but if it happened, it definitely wasn't like this. Start back from square one.
>You gave up on it so I assume you accepted it
what? when where and how? Are you just hallucinating?
>If he knows what the stars look like, he may as well have the latitude and longitude
are you stupid? Do you think he has it perfectly memorized in his head or something? You can't get exact latitude and longitude unless you've actually written down the exact location and everything. Do you think they let him go with a map in hand?

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>>42049986
No it didn't. The LN has out of order perspective shit in it too.

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how has this thread not died yet btw

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>>42050038
Jaypee slows down tremendously at around page 5.

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Starting to think I should reply to everyone in this thread

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>>42050024
It did. Anime doesn't even explain Araya's grand plan because it was big deal. What he did was on pair with Magic.
Final fight was changed too (yooo we're falling n shiet). But LN wasn't translated back in old days and people were not desperate to shit on every frame.

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>>42050047
You can just make 1 new thread on the board and end it.

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Starting to think

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>>42050056
Doing that to bump off your own general is bad manners on imageboards.

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>>42050053
>Anime doesn't even explain Araya's grand plan because it was big deal.
I thought it did. He didn't go on a whole autism dump about muh root and blah blah?
>Final fight was changed too (yooo we're falling n shiet)
That's just a minor detail to make Shiki cooler. Not really important.

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Reminder that Fate, unlike Tsukihime and Mahoyo, is a heterosexual franchise.

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[Surveypost] What is the most low effort 2hu thread that can be made? [/Surveypost]

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>>42050067
>That's just a minor detail to make Shiki cooler.
Opposite. LN fight was fast and brutal. And hell I think KnK collection box has LN version of his death illustrated

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>>42050019
>are you stupid?
Do you know nothing about stars? How do you think people navigated before GPS?
>??? I already explained in depth with the original timeline was wrong.
No, you admitted that there was an indeterminate length of time during which the suicide could have happened.
>In fact, the opposite is indicated
Explain.
> that it made him depressed or something because not having to be a killer anymore somehow made him depressed
Are you seriously this emotionally immature and juvenile? You're telling me you wouldn't be affected at all upon finding out that your entire life was based on a lie?
Also you're making an assumption here. You're assuming that the decision to exile him from the village was made immediately upon him asking the question. And that it was immediately communicated to him. I find this highly unlikely. There was likely a period of time where he was in the dark about what was going to be done with him.
>I'm not anti "Soujuurou tried to kill himself"
Funny, because you were at the start. You also were anti-Mahoyo sequels earlier in the thread, yet you made passing reference to "Mahoyo 2" a while back. Guess our conversations have been productive. You're welcome.
>Do you think he has it perfectly memorized in his head or something?
He literally does. Did you just skip the entire climax or something?

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>>42050076
All 2hu threads are low effort

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>>42050038
dunno, it's been the last thread on page 10 for like an hour
jaypee is just dead i guess

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>>42050109
I created the survey as soon as I saw it on page 10, and it was very late. That was 6 hours ago.

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>>42050103
Why did Rin forget about Sakura after UBW?

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prematurely claiming OP is kinda cringe too

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^ this is survey poster btw

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>>42050118
not her problem

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v this poster has gay thoughts with Kotomine Kirei

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>>42050122
You need meds.

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>>42050098
>How do you think people navigated before GPS?
My dude, Soujuurou would need to see the night sky IN the location of where the mountains are to get the latitude and longitude. Do you think he has the perfect memory of exactly where the stars are in the location or something? You have to measure it to get it. You can't just guesstimate it.
>you admitted that there was an indeterminate length of time during which the suicide could have happened.
Not in your original timeline. You're completely changing it now. This is different but again it doesn't make sense.
>Explain.
The old guy doesn't answer his question at all and shrugs him off. There's no reason to think that Soujuurou was told anything. The fact that he asked something also indicates that he doesn't know everything. Very simple.
>You're telling me you wouldn't be affected at all upon finding out that your entire life was based on a lie?
Suicide is a GIANT leap. One could easily have the opposite reaction and want to live a true life instead. It's just as plausible.
>You're assuming that the decision to exile him from the village was made immediately upon him asking the question.
No this is exactly what the text indicates as I've already posted.
>Funny, because you were at the start.
Again no. I never was. I am anti people passing off their theories as facts. I've said this a million times. You at least have been less dogmatic lately and have had to greatly alter your original theory so I guess our conversations have been productive. You're welcome.
>He literally does.
Post the text that says he has a perfect photographic memory and can measure the exact location of a star just straight from his head.

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We're scrapping the bottom of the barrel, it seems.

>>42050146
Too late, bro.

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>>42050148
Thread is too fast...

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don't you guys get tired arguing for 12 hours?
I don't think walls of text will convince the other guy you are right

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Would you let Rider lick your anus?

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>>42050160
>people on /tmg/ are passionate about Type-Moon
woah............................

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>Everyone is a potential survey poster

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I still don't know what target demographic Type-Moon was targeting when they included those anal licking/fingering scenes.

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>>42050178
Japan.

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>>42050167
This.
What a bunch of nerds.

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You fucking retards. Surveyposter is extremely easy to spot because he always asks the same vague Type-Moon related questions like:
>why do Type-Moon fans do X?
>why do primaries say X?
>why does Nasu XYZ?
>why is Fate/Zero so controversial? <---------- His favorite question

If you can't spot him then fucking kill yourself. You're either surveyposter or purposefully disrupting the thread.

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>>42050178
Male demographics of all ages.
Females born after 2000.

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>>42050186
>You're either surveyposter or purposefully disrupting the thread.

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Why is /tmg/ so gay?

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>>42050160
>don't you guys get tired arguing for 12 hours?
Well, I'm now doing things even more mind-numbing.

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>>42050196
Why is Kuma so gay?

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>>42050196
Do you have a peer-reviewed study from the Ivy League backing that affirmation up?

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>>42050145
>to get the latitude and longitude
God, you thought I meant actually getting the latitude and longitude lmao. I said "knowing the position of this is basically like knowing the latitude and longitude". Again, do you understand how people navigated before shit like GPS or even compasses?
>Not in your original timeline. You're completely changing it now.
Okay. I'm not, but sure.
>One could easily have the opposite reaction and want to live a true life instead.
Well, he wasn't successful. It's not like they're mutually exclusive.
>I am anti people passing off their theories as facts. I've said this a million times.
You expect me to believe you've wasted god knows how long arguing against a theory you thought was fundamentally sound, but simply flawed in its reasoning? Also I can just scroll back up in the thread and see that you're lying. You literally jumped down the other guy's throat the second he brought it up.
>You at least have been less dogmatic lately and have had to greatly alter your original theory so I guess our conversations have been productive. You're welcome.
And thank you. I'm pretty sure I said as much earlier but this is really the only edifying part of stupid internet arguments, it encourages you to think more deeply about whatever it is you're discussing. A shame you only seem to care about being right/wrong.
>Post the text that says he has a perfect photographic memory and can measure the exact location of a star just straight from his head.
The stars in the sky from the climax are literally plucked straight from his memories, retard.

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>>42050160
lol I'm watching a movie, I can go all day
>I don't think walls of text will convince the other guy you are right
That's never the point.

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>>42050227
kek

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>>42050227
me on the bed

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>>42050215
>God, you thought I meant actually getting the latitude and longitude lmao.
Then it makes even less sense. Having a slight memory of what the starry sky looks like in one location is not enough to actually locate it. You understand this right? You find general directions and things like that, but if you want to find an exact location, you need an actual instrument and tools to do this. People got lost at sea, etc. all the time. It's not like you can just look at the sky once, remember, and bam now you know exactly the location forever.
>Okay. I'm not, but sure.
You've dodged around (and continue to dodge) around the points I've made up that refute your original claim that a suicidal attempt was what caused them to kick Soujuurou at. This is, again, wrong.
>Well, he wasn't successful.
Except he went
>a theory you thought was fundamentally sound
YOUR theory is not fundamentally sound. The idea may or may not be correct. I disagree with it, but the way you have formulated and presented it cannot be right. If it happened, it was in a different manner.
>The stars in the sky from the climax are literally plucked straight from his memories, retard.
...because of Aoko magic bullshit. That doesn't mean he has it absolutely perfectly memorized and whip out a pen and pencil and jot it down stupid.

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>>42049731
>>42049790
>>42049804
Because it's easier to hide under name of Nasu. Fans will accept unconditionally whatever he does as long as it is sold as approved by Nasu. Plus a bit of interviews here and there that may not even make any sense after some time, BUT NASU SAID THAT SO IT MUST BE TRUE.

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>>42049804
>>42049790
>>42049731
Why isn't there a collection of Nasu's interviews?

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^ This is surveyposter again

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Nasu was right.

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>>42050243
>Except he went
Shit my bad I didn't finish this. Except he ended up going to city after all so the actual indication in the story is that he accepted a new life. Your postulation that THIS specific point in time was where he must have had some kind of crisis is not backed up by anything.

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Castoria good

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>>42050255
Based!

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>>42050249
Because no one bothered to do it. Simple as.

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DDD anime soon
DDD vol 3 soon
DDD will become part of Nasuverse

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DDD is my favourite Nasu story about baseball.

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>>42050260
Why is she like this?

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DDD has best schizo story.

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What do you do in this situation?

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>>42050282
Is this a surveypost?

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>>42050286
This is a surveypost
Do NOT reply to it

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>>42050243
>People got lost at sea, etc. all the time.
Yeah, because of shit like the weather or incompetence. Not because stars are an unreliable navigational tool.
>a slight memory of what the starry sky looks like
> It's not like you can just look at the sky once, remember, and bam now you know exactly the location forever.
He wasn't looking at the sky "once", idiot, it's the same sky he saw every day for years and years. Brother, you're acting like he left the mountains a decade ago, he's only been gone for like a month.
>Except he went
Are you so flustered that you just omitted an entire sentence here?
>That doesn't mean he has it absolutely perfectly memorized and whip out a pen and pencil and jot it down stupid.
Again, why are you acting like he left the mountains a decade ago?

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>have to wait until 2 am for flanfly to bump us off of the catalog
It's over...

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>Old TM
Mahoyo
Kara no Kyoukai
Tsukihime
DDD
Tsuki no Sango
FSN/FHA/FZ
EXTRA/CCC
DDD

>New TM
FGO
FGO
FGO

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>>42050288
So are you actually arguing that Soujuurou has a perfect photographic memory of what the stars in the mountains looked like or what? You know that's not how humans actually work. You forget things that you don't use after a while. Having a slight memory of roughly where things are is not good enough to find an exact location. Remember, this shit is in the middle of fucking nowhere and the premise is that we have no idea where it is. To use purely the stars to find it, Soujuurou would need to use the proper tools and remember what the sky originally looked in his home mountains with implausibly high accuracy.

>>42050288
>Are you so flustered that you just omitted an entire sentence here?
I replied my friend. At least have the decency to check. I've noticed you've avoided many of my arguments are mostly bitching about an absurd inhuman star navigation theory based off of purely memory.

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>Old TM
[arbitrary cut off point for all of the things I like]

>New TM
[arbitrary cut off point for all of the things I don't like]

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>>42050319
So true!

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>>42050328
this but unironically

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I bet LB7 is going to be kino

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>>42050321
>Having a slight memory of roughly where things are is not good enough to find an exact location
He doesn't need to. The stars just need to get him in the general vicinity, and then all your complaints about this huge area are mitigated.
>I replied my friend.
Sorry kiddo, I'm not frantically refreshing this thread. I saw the first post and not the other, and replied to it.
> I've noticed you've avoided many of my arguments
Like what? You said something about my "original claim" earlier that wasn't my original claim at all, so I felt no need to address it.
>mostly bitching about an absurd inhuman star navigation theory based off of purely memory
You're the one who doesn't want to let this go. I already said that this doesn't matter, but you don't want to concede on the point that it is highly possible for Soujuurou to find his village again.

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No ORT no buy

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>>42050372
He's coming to Melty next dlc bro I promise.

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v this is a surveypost, do not reply to it

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>>42038521
I hate queers so much, it's unreal.

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>>42050381
Question?

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>>42050384
There's no question.

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Why we can't die

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>>42050395
We're dead, and we're in Hell.

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>>42050395
jaypee......had a hard life....

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>>42050371
>The stars just need to get him in the general vicinity
Uh no, you need much more than that. He lived secluded away in the mountains somewhere with an unknown area. This isn't like finding a city or some big general location. It's highly specific. You can't just wing it. You would need to know the angles between different start clusters, distances, and all sorts of highly specific information. People used sextants and stuff in the past for a reason.
>I'm not frantically refreshing this thread
It's 2022. Everyone is using 4chan x or the native extension which has auto refresh.
>You said something about my "original claim" earlier that wasn't my original claim at all
Unless you are suddenly a new person, you did indeed make the claim that a suicide attempt was what got him kicked out here.
>One of my arguments was literally that the act of suicide was what got him kicked out. >>42048997
>it is highly possible for Soujuurou to find his village again
If the people took trivial steps to hide the location from the village from him, then no it is not plausible for him to find it purely based off of memory. Of course, maybe they didn't give a fuck and let him just waltz out. That would be a different story. We don't really know either way. I would presume that they would want to hide their existence (seems logical for a shady organization), so they put at least a little effort but who knows.

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>>42050395
Nanosurveyposts son

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>>42050395
A thread got deleted off of the catalog, so we have to wait until two new threads get made.

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I don't use auto refresh desu.
Hate auto updates downloads and other auto garbage

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>>42050420
who asked

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>>42050423
Alaya

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>>42050423
me