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4220337 No.4220337 [Reply] [Original]

What does /jp/ think of Rouza Ushiromiya

>> No.4220353

>Rouza
A good mother like my mom.

>> No.4220361

best. mom. ever.

>> No.4220364

まりあのあにき楼座おばさん。

>> No.4220366
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Needs a bigger part in the next episode.

>> No.4220373
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I hate her! uryuu!

>> No.4220374

Was dethroned as bestmomever when it was revealed that Natsuhi murdered two people, one of them a goddamn baby.

How can Rosa beat that?

>> No.4220384

Fuck off, neko cancer fags

>> No.4220389

Rosa - Abusive bitch
Eva - Insecure bitch
Natsuhi - Murderous bitch
Kyrie - Jealous bitch

>> No.4220391

>>4220374
apparantly Natsuhi didn't kill anyone or something according to the theory people.
I still believe she did, I don't like her much.

>> No.4220396

>>4220374
Natsuhi murdered a goddamn baby, and her... interesting methods of child rearing gave us FUCKING MOON-CHAN.

>> No.4220402

>>4220396
Wait, did she abuse Jessica or something? I thought Natsuhi was pure....

>> No.4220403

I'm 19, and who the fuck is MOON-CHAN?

>> No.4220411

>>4220403
MOON-CHAN IS MOON-CHAN!!!

>> No.4220419

>>4220403
Oh, Moon-chan is FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKING MOON-CHAN!
Quite simple, really.

>> No.4220435

After she tore sakutarou apart I wanted her dead so bad I was almost in tears.

I've never hated a fictional character so much.

It's also why I'll never have kids, you can destroy their whole world "just" by forgetting something you promised them or tossing some stinky stuffed animal.

Kids are so fragile and impressionable its painful to me.

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>>4220403
She's the hero Rokkenjima deserves, but not the one it needs right now. She's a silent guardian, a watchful protector.... The Dark Knight.

>> No.4220522
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Moon-chan needs more love ;_;

>> No.4220531

Why is Jessica called Moon-chan, praytell?

>> No.4220533

>>4220435
Kids in fictional worlds yeah. Real world kids, not so much.

>> No.4220550

>>4220435
Funny, the moment she killed Sakutarou I couldn't wipe the smile of my face, it was awesome drama. Then when Maria started killing her over and over and then let Rosa talk, and Rosa said she fucking hated Maria I got a hard on and yelled Fuck Yeah!

>> No.4220551

>>4220337
She's your stereotypical weak last child. Also in a large family with an abusive upbringing who never had to work for anything because she's rich.

Her character was doomed to fail from the start, I can do nothing but pity her.

Especially when you factor in that her fashion company is failing, her exploits with the opposite sex are pitiful, and her relationship with her own daughter is awful. Even when she tries her best at something, she can't succeed, she's got it rough.

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>>4220551
Well, she brought a fixed Sakutarou to the island, I think she still has a shot of redemption.
>>4220531
Because the arcana is the means by which all is revealed.
>>4220522
I'm sure Krauss and Natsuhi mean well.... they are just gigantic morons.

>> No.4220586

>>4220577

>Because the arcana is the means by which all is revealed.

Wouldn't Jessica be with Kanon as The Lovers, though?

And shouldn't you call her "The Moon-chan", then? Cutting out the 'The' is an insult to the Tarot.

>> No.4220592

>>4220577
Natsuhi kept her locked in a dark closet for hours upon end as a child.
That's......not exactly the best parenting stratagem I've seen.

>> No.4220593

>>4220586
Jessica's official card is The Moon.

Ryukishi literally agreed, don't bother him about it.

I bet George and Shannon will be The Lovers, or some shit.

>> No.4220595

>>4220586
See, the funny thing is, she isn't
And if I say THE MOON-CHAN, I'll be tempted to call her THE BATMAN.

>> No.4220601

>>4220595
The Goddamn Moon-chan

>> No.4220607

>>4220595
>>4220593

That's a stupid card. It makes her seem all culprit-y.

>> No.4220609

>>4220592
Dude, 80s..... child abuse wasn't invented back then.

>> No.4220620

>>4220607
I think that's the point.

>> No.4220622

Rosa is my favorite character in the games, although that may be because she has some of the most character development.

It's a shame that she usually is the first to not make the cut in most games.

>> No.4220627

>>4220622
Well actually, in episode 6, she is one of the first to make the CUT.
DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!

>> No.4220632

>>4220622
At least she's not the culprit then.

More than can be said of Shkannon, Jessica, or Kyrie.

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>>4220622
>>4220627

>> No.4220638

You know what Umineko resembles more and more with each episode?

Dark Shadows.

>> No.4220650

>>4220593
It is actually confirmed that George + Shannon are The Lovers.

Natsuhi and Eva are The Empress too.

>> No.4220651

>>4220627
Oh you.

>> No.4220656

>>4220622
All the milfs have a good amount of development.

Well except Kyrie, who Ryukishi has pretty much shunned. Poor gal doesn't even have her own arc and Natsuhi got 2!

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>>4220593
Probably, I think Kiseri would have to fix this later

>> No.4220667

>>4220656
Kyrie is a dominant smart woman. Japan hates women who are superior to males.

>> No.4220677

>>4220657
He seems to think the star and the moon mean couples.....
That is not quite what they mean.

>> No.4220687

>>4220677
guess so. Especially since officially Jessica is the Moon and Gaap is the Star.

>> No.4220689

>>4220667
Well, uh, the culprit is going to be female, one way or the other, so apparently R07 has a thing for empowered, batshit insane women?

>> No.4220690

>>4220687
>Jessica is moon
>Gaap is star

Jessica = Gaap confirmed

>> No.4220693

>>4220677
Japs know dick about western tarot.

Well, apparently the MegaTen developers did, but the average Jap doesn't.

>> No.4220698

>>4220689
More like "crazy batshit insane sluts"

Seriously if Kyrie is the culprit I just hope she is not like Takano, who was murdering people over hypothetical brain parasites. Same with Moon-chan.

>> No.4220704

>>4220656


I haven't played EP6...but Imagine we are going to get some resolution eventually

We got the background on Krauss/Natsuhi (EP1,EP5), Eva/Hideyoshi (EP1, EP3), most stuff on Rosa (EP2, EP4), we know what happens to Ange and such (EP4),

we haven't actually gotten that much on the Rudolf/Kyrie/Asumu triangle, and Battler's leaving of the family/

>> No.4220708

>>4220693
Nah, R07 is a reverse weeaboo, and he's done his work with western beliefs about magic. Hm, perhaps someone should post the Moon card, it conveys exactly what the card means.

>> No.4220715

>>4220708

Keywords of The Moon are

* Lack of clarity ----- Tension ----- Doubt ----- Fantasy
* Deception ----- Psychological conflict ----- Obscured vision
* Confusion ----- Illusion ----- Fear ----- Imagination ----- Worry
* Romanticism ----- Anxiety ----- Apprehension ----- Unrealistic ideas

>> No.4220721

>>4220698
Well, I can see Moon-chan doing it for one of two ways.

1. She's really evil, and really just wants to do it to see if she can get away with it.
2. Something clusterfuckish with Fusiontrice.

>> No.4220724

>>4220698
who was murdering people over hypothetical brain parasites

But Hinamizawa Syndrome was real.

>> No.4220728

>>4220715
>Fantasy
>Deception
>Psychological conflict
>Illusion
>Romanticism

Only bad thing is, this shit is so overt that it probably makes Jessica culprit less likely, it's right in your face.

>> No.4220729

>>4220715
It has more of an emphasis on deception and fog, actually.
Like, when the Moon card shows up, it means that things are not what they seem.

So, as for the personification of the Moon..... well..., I think you can see where that will lead.

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>>4220708

>>4220721
Speaking of Fusiontrice, I came up with a crack theory related to it while walking to dinner earlier. What if both Jessica and Shannon are Beatrice? Not just Jessica creating Beatrice in Shannon, but them both having the personality.

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>>4220742
Alright, I'll admit that you guys crossed the line a long time ago. But that? That's just wrong.

>> No.4220767

>>4220757
Yeah, it's a stupid theory that has no basis in anything whatsoever. I just thought it was funny.

>> No.4220772

>>4220728
>>in your face
Not quite. It's a card that came with an animu release, but the main fanbase only thinks of Jessica as the chick that dashing young lad Kanon is into.

>> No.4220774
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Rosa is my favorite character, I love watching the drama between her and Maria and feel sorry for both of them. It'll be good to see them make up.

>> No.4220789

>>4220774
According to the fictionfags, they won't.

>> No.4220793

>>4220789
...Okay, somebody explain to me this new terminology. Who are the fictionfags?

>> No.4220797

>>4220789
Please describe the meaning of 'fictionfag'.

>> No.4220803

>>4220774

Yeah. I nearly cried during their moments in EP4. Was just too horrifying and tragic.

>> No.4220804

>>4220793
Everything has already happened, and the only survivor is Eva.
There are no Kakeras.
All the game boards were simply novels, not more.

>> No.4220819

>>4220804
That's..... a rather depressing way to look at things.

>> No.4220821

>>4220804
Some of them like to claim Amakusa is Battler, so apparently he somehow lives too.

>> No.4220829

>>4220804
Wrong.

Featherine is writing things as Hachijou from what she sees in the kakera. Featherine is a magical human, sorta like Hanyuu was in Higurashi.

>> No.4220831

>>4220821
But he got shot in the chest!
His heart fell out!

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>>4220829
> implying Featherine isn't Hanyuu

>> No.4220850

>>4220831
Don't look at me, I think it's stupid.

>> No.4220870

>>4220804
That kinda stinks. I've always thought it was kinda cool how the entire game started, with EP1 Battler essentially cheating death through sheer disbelief (even if he did really die in the end, it always seemed to me that Meta-Battler was most strongly connected to Episode 1 Battler).

>> No.4220871

I like her because she beats the shit out of her daughter for talking like an anime character.

>> No.4220877
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>>4220831
Umineko is actually the Satsuki arc of Fate/Stay night.
That's why Battler is Archer.

>> No.4220884

>>4220870
But, uh.., fictional or not, turns out Episode 1 was indeed a gameboard as well. We don't know anything about what happened on the original Rokkenjima at this point.

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>>4220884
Fascinating.

>> No.4220892

>>4220829
Wait, does she tell Ange this? I thought magic was a "gentle lie"?

>> No.4220893

>>4220877
Why would F/sn have a Satsuki route?

>> No.4220894

>>4220884
Okay, another question, what's up with this 'EP1 is also a gameboard' talk? Was that stated in EP6 or something?

>> No.4220901

In before the real Rokkenjima is everyone playing a game of clue.

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>>4220893

>> No.4220914

>>4220892
That's gameboard magic. Meta magic is on a whole different level.

>> No.4220924

>>4220914
Yeah. Magic doesn't exist on the Gameboard, but it does exist on the Meta.

Basically, magic exists, but it doesn't play a role in the murders.

>> No.4220926

>>4220894
Yeah. And when you think about it, it makes sense. The gameboard of Episode 1 was recorded in the first bottle discovered. The second one was Episode 2.

>> No.4220932

>>4220829
THIS.

Hachijou told this crap to Ange, and she went LOL NO YOU STUPID BITCH, JUST WHO THE FUCK ARE U?

..and then Hachijou became Super Hanyuu.

>> No.4220933

>>4220926
Man, how much more clusterfucked can Umineko get?

>> No.4220935

>>4220914
>>4220924
I wasn't talking about the meta, I was talking about the World of 1998, where magic is seen to have very similar properties to the magic on Rokkenjima (anti-magic toxin, etc).

>> No.4220940

>>4220932
She doesn't do this in front of Amakuza, does she?

>> No.4220942

>>4220935
Hachijou Touya is the human. Featherine Augustus Aurora is her meta form. Who is pretty much Hanyuu.

>> No.4220950

>>4220942
> Who is pretty much Hanyuu.
...Except evil. Even more evil than Bernkastel is.

>> No.4220962

>>4220932

So the gameboard still happens in the "real world"? Then what about the level of control the Game Master has in weaving the tale? Beato was basically the one designing the set pieces and directing the actions of the people of Rokkenjima, kinda like an RPG. Going by this view, literary concepts such as Detective's Authority and mystery rules having real power and weight makes sense.

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>>4220950
I''ve seen worse.

>> No.4220989

>>4220950
Are you implying that Hanyuu wasn't evil?

>> No.4221015

>>4220989
>implying Hanyuu is intelligent enough to be evil

>> No.4221021

>>4221015
Are you implying Hanyuu was not intelligent?

>> No.4221033

>>4221021
AUAUAUAUAUUAUAUAUAUAUAUAUUAUAUAU

>> No.4221051

>>4220981
Telling you man, the culprit is going to manifest on the Meta at the end of episode 7, and out-troll everyone.

>> No.4221055

>>4221021
>implying Hanyuu was evil, rather than just a lonely, selfish ghostbitch

>> No.4221079

>implying hanyuu was evil or selfish

>> No.4221091

On the topic of Hanyuu: I'd love to Hanyuu's horns as I Hanyuu.

>> No.4221099

>>4221051
What I want to happen is another trial like in EP5, but this time exposing the true culprit. Battler as prosecutor, Beato as the Judge, the family as the jury, and Dlanor as... the executioner.

>> No.4221112

>>4221051
But if Shkannontrice is the culprit Beatrice is already there.
If Jessica is the culprit then Beatrice is already there.

Clearly the culprit is Kyrie, since Beatrice never murdered for fun or revenge.

>> No.4221114

>>4221099
Interesting thought, but it'll be one hell of a trial.
Be awesome as hell to see Moon-chan or Kyrie summon the SSVD.

>> No.4221117

>>4221112
But Beatrice isn't the culprit.

>> No.4221118

>>4221112
Jessica DOES NOT HAVE TO be Beatrice to be the culprit.
Geez, you people sure are slow...

>> No.4221121

>>4221112

As much as I'd love that, Kyrie will only murder everyone if there's a profit to be had, and she'll never ever murder Rudolf. She's probably a culprit, but not THE culprit, due to those facts.

>> No.4221122

All I want is a hotblooded scene where someone disproves Shkannon(trice?). Dlanor, Battler, Beatrice, Erika, Lambda, Bern, anyone, I don't care

>> No.4221125

culprit is george

>> No.4221128

>>4221125
Sure is a lame-ass culprit.

>> No.4221140

>>4221122
This. Actually, I don't care if it's 'hotblooded' or anything, I just want someone (maybe Bern) to put on their troll face while MIRAGECOORDINATOR is blasting in the background and deny any form of Shkanontrice in red.

>> No.4221151

>>4221140
I can't imagine Shkannon not being true at this point, so hopefully she's only a pawn, rather than some cunning culprit.

>> No.4221154

>>4221151
Shkanontrice is a pawn. Of Jessica, I have no doubt. Crazy bitch is fucking crazy, but hey, a useful tool is a useful tool.

>> No.4221157

>>4221151
Shkannon is fine, imo. It's Shkannontrice that's ridiculous.

>> No.4221161

>>4221121
Kyrie's plan: Poison Ange lightly. Everyone else goes to the island. Everyone dies but Kyrie, who escapes. Ange is the last Ushiromiya left alive, and becomes the heir by default. Kyrie controls the fortune via Ange.

Problem is the "escape" part.

>> No.4221170

>>4221161
She can have whatever plan she wants, but she dies way too fucking early way too much to be the mastermind.

>> No.4221180

>>4221170
She could have planned the closed rooms in advance and then get killed by the mastermind however.

>> No.4221181

>>4221170
This, Kyrie is made out to be way too fucking competent to be such a shitty mastermind.

She's killed in the first twilight for the first and second games, dies in the middle of EP3, and it's only at 4 that she lives nearly to the end, which most of us can agree is basically a clusterfuck.

I find it hard to believe she would be such a terrible mastermind.

>> No.4221184

>>4221157
Especially with EP 3 pretty much killing Shkannontrice in a way.

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>>4221170
Maybe because someone else interfered with her plan.

>> No.4221191

>>4221181
Episode 4 is trolls trolling trolls.
It's freaking awesome.

>> No.4221197

>>4221184
Who says the person who is Beatrice survives to the end in all games?

>> No.4221200

>>4221181
She doesn't really die in the middle. First off she gets to the 6th twilight, which is pretty good. Then you need to remember she wasn't even declared dead in red and that she wasn't stabbed in a lethal spot.

>> No.4221202

>>4221157
I won't be fine with Shkannon until R07 reveals a believable reason for everyone else covering for her.

>> No.4221206

>>4221200
Still, being out of action for half the episodes works against her.
Jessica has longetivity going for her.

>> No.4221209

>>4221202
Kinzo ordered it.

>> No.4221210

>>4221200
Six of ten twilights is pretty middle to me.

Still doesn't change that in the first two, she was taken out in the very beginning, that's not exactly culprit material right there.

>> No.4221214

>>4221209
KINZO IS DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

>> No.4221217

>>4221206
Not really. Jessica dies in EP 2. EP 3 Evatrice confirms her not to be a murderer in red too (although that probably only applies to EP 3 anyway)

>> No.4221222

>>4221217
Jessica dies in EP 2 on the 2nd twilight. Forgot that part

>> No.4221224

>>4221217
She has a way of getting out of her death in episode two. It involves insulin and Dr. Nanjo.

>> No.4221226

Why is rosa so attractive to me??

>> No.4221227

>>4221210
But after that she keeps surviving longer and longer.

I can understand something like that being used for Rosa, who only made it past the 2nd twilight once during the entire series of the game, but Kyrie has been slowly progressing to longer lifespans. EP 6 doesn't count since she was still alive until Erika chopped off her head

>> No.4221236

>>4221224
That theory is bullshit to me, since Beatrice DOES say 'Jessica's corpse' in red. And even if she was still alive I doubt she could do much with a stake lodged directly into her back. And it's in there pretty good if it can stand still.

>> No.4221245

>>4221227
Great? That really means nothing. Kyrie is still out of action for episode 1 and episode 2. A mastermind is a constant. Not a variable.

>> No.4221253

>>4221245
In that case the mastermind is either Nanjo or Kinzo. Everyone has died in the 1st twilight by EP 5 excluding Nanjo and Battler. Battler isn't a culprit.

>> No.4221254

>>4221236
One again, Erika and Dlanor set it up as a precedent. You can fake death and be considered a corpse. It would explain the logical error in Jessica being counted as one of the people in the room, at any rate.

>> No.4221258

>>4221253
There is some room for leeway, but when you are dead from the start for half of the cases..... I just don't see it.

>> No.4221259

>>4221253
I'm betting it's Kinzo. Remember that will he was shown writing in Episode 2? I have a feeling he really did write one. So, in other words: MASTERMINDING FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE!

>> No.4221265

>>4221253
Jessica's corpse was not moved in 5, and yet it left the cousin's room.

She had to be in on that, or drugged, but I believe we need prior knowledge of said drug to satisfy Knox?

>> No.4221269

>>A mastermind is a constant. Not a variable.

Isn't it possible for a mastermind to have others to carry out their plan, even if they themselves are dead?

>> No.4221274

>>4221259

I wouldn't put it past him.

>> No.4221276

>>4221265
Dude, ALL of them in Episode 5 were alive when they were discovered. Then they moved, and at some point later were killed.

>> No.4221277

>>4221254
I don't really understand their logic here because a corpse is usually suppose to be a dead body, not someone pretending to be a dead body.

I rather just wait for WH to translate, since I've only gone through EP 6 with the crappy translator.

>> No.4221279

>>4221269
There's limits to planning ahead though.

I cannot imagine Kyrie planned so far ahead that she can be one of the first six corpses, and everything just fell into place as well as it did in 1 and 2.

>> No.4221280

>>4221265
they were all alive. Erika never saw the wound nor examined it.

>> No.4221284

>>4221269
Yes, but I doubt Kyrie would be the one to do so. Her motivations are not the kind that would have loyal followers carry out her plan after the fact.

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Eva + Rosa = Reisha

>> No.4221289

>>4221276
Indeed, which makes me think that only Krauss was the actual murder, and the rest died from the explosion, or whatever the fuck happens at the end of the second day.

Unless I'm missing a red that contradicts that, been a long while.

>> No.4221295

>>4221277
Their logic is this.
Medically speaking, you can have a dead body. But it can, indeed, get better.
So what we should watch out for is when they say the person is dead.
With a dead body, you can use the age old trick of insulin. If the person is dead, well, they be dead.

>> No.4221297

>>4221276
true, but all of them were dead before Hideyoshi died. Virgilia even confirmed it in red for Battler. Even if they didn't die in the cousins room they did die and might as well be considered the 1st twilight for that reason.

>> No.4221303

>>4221289
I believe Virgilia confirmed their deaths in red before the explosion, when she, Gaap, and Ronove were in that extradimensional space with the corpses.

>> No.4221306

>>4221289
Bern said Krauss wasn't the culprit in red.

>>4221295
I don't know how a dead body can get better, but I'm guessing it has something to do with a person getting numb or whatever.

It still sounds ridiculous, but this is the same author who coined brain parasites as the solution.

>> No.4221310

I support violence against people with 'cute' speech ticks in general, and against Maria in particular.

>> No.4221314

>>4221289
Krauss was confirmed to be killed right after Natsuhi got off the phone.

>> No.4221315

>>4221306
It really is standard mystery fare. The detective checks the pulse of the victim, oh noes he is dead, but lol let's leave the body as is for the police, turns out he wasn't dead, he just took insulin.

>> No.4221325

>>4221315
problem is it was never hinted Nanjo carried around insulin or anything like that, but whatever.

>> No.4221333

>>4221325
Wait, no... it was.

DIABEETUS

>> No.4221337

>>4221325
He's a doctor. It's fair game to assume he would have drugs on him.

>> No.4221343

>>4221337
true, but it still feels cheap in a way.

>> No.4221345

>>4221337
420 SMOKE DAT WEED WITH DR NANJO ALL DA-
oh, wait, those types of drugs....

>> No.4221363

>>4221236
At least its better than some shkanontrice fags theorys.

Also i cant see Jessica as being the evil mastermind, there's no foreshadowing that would lead to that. She's more like the tragic heroine/villain (see EP4, also jessitrice)

>> No.4221373

>>4221363
Yeah I agree. In EP 4 her choice was to let herself be killed rather than murder everyone, unlike George who was just straight up "lol lets kill everyone but me and DID meido!"

>> No.4221374

>>4221363
I don't know, if Natsuhi locked me in a closet for no goddamn reason, I'd be pretty willing to kill people too.

>> No.4221381

>>4221374
Natsuhi locked her to teach her a lesson. Standard old style parenting. But Jessica does care about her mom and dad, seeing as she sobs all the time over them.

>> No.4221386

>>4221373
Yeah, but then she went "FUCK THAT, I'LL JUST KILL YOU INSTEAD"

>> No.4221391

>>4221373
But, ah, bro, she most likely was the one who killed George. With a gun.

>> No.4221392

>>4221386
Because she didn't want to give up so easily. Not like she said she would kill everyone, just try and kill Ronove.

>> No.4221396

>>4221381
Yeah, she does a reaaaaaal good job of sobbing. Very good performance. 10/10, even.

>> No.4221398

>>4221391
Since I support Jessica = Gaap I do agree with this. Still the choice she made does say something about her character. EP 6 she was also hesitant to attack Kyrie, until the latter 'encouraged' her by telling Jessica about how she wanted to stab Asumu with a knife and shit.

>> No.4221405

>>4221396
Because when your mom and dad die you're definietly faking it!

>> No.4221420

>>4221405
Episode 4. She picks up the phone, and, in front of Battler and the rest of the cousins, lies her ass off.
OH DAD WATS DAT MOM IS DEAD BAW KINZO KILLED THEM(Who she knows is dead) THAT BASTARD EVERYONE FOLLOW ME INTO THIS RETARDED AND POTENTIALLY FATAL MURDER TRAP.
And, they do.

>> No.4221427

There is one problem with both shkanontrice and moontrice.

Its the final riddle of ep4.

If you believe in bomb theory, as beato says that SHE IS the one IN FRONT OF BATTLER that kills him, beatrice must be the one who ''set up us the bomb.''

So...how did she do it? And how did she do it? Some kind of timed suicide that she would cancel if Battler loved her?

>> No.4221432

>>4221427
No, Beatrice is not a bomb, stop with that, would you?

>> No.4221435

>>4221420
She doesn't really lead them into a trap. Kyrie is the one who gets on the phone and tells Battler about the test.

>> No.4221436

>>4221435
Well close the book guys. Moon-chan and Kyrie are definietly working together.

>> No.4221442

Then suddenly everyone is the culprit

>> No.4221443

>>4221435
She does, however, lie to them.
Without them thinking Kinzo is alive and bat-shit crazy, the whole nice division via test would never have happened.

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>>4220373
Me too!

>> No.4223977

>>4221436
that's easy
but Kyrie is lying to Jessica, Kyrie is the mastermind but still she works under Jessica just to take advantage. jessica is for her what Rosa is for Jessica in ep2, just let her think she's the killer
bad point: she's stupid and usually killed because she's discovered soon, not in ep3 or 4 though

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>>4223933
Uryuu~~!

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