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Is this the best Western Touhou fangame? (Not counting board games) It's an excellently done SMT game. Only major complaint is that New Game plus doesn't have options to let you choose what to carry over and what not to. Especially since there are equipables that are either insanely rare or route exclusive, that's the stuff I want to New Game+. And maybe have a level drain option for sleepers, it would make runs with specific sleepers possible. Also a Grimoire that lets you play Sumireko-less would be neat.

I'm not really sure of other Western Touhou fangames that come close, though mainly because most Western ones are made to be pretty short and simplistic, or actively garbage.

What are the most iconic fangames to you? From the West, China, and Japan itself? Mystia's Izakaya I would probably pick as China's most iconic Touhou fangame, it sold insanely well.

>> No.45957455

>>45957420
I like this small fangame
https://youtu.be/b8MFPUPXwSw

>> No.45957570
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LDQ is the most Sovlful fanmade Shmup game

>> No.45957668

>>45957455
That looks like a really good Mario Party minigame. Has anyone done a Touhou Mario Party yet?

>> No.45957729

i like touhou fangames
especially multiplayer ones to play with my friends

>> No.45957896
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Touhou Luna Nights is a fun play through.

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>>45957420
I played AIDA, it's good, but Touhou Mother and Return of Touhou Mother are still the best Touhou fangames I've ever played, it was the most invested I've ever been in a fangame, I was very emotionally attached to what was going on in the game. It was also just very fun and had a lot of stuff to do.

Honestly the more I think about Touhou Mother the more I realise that it just BTFOs AIDA, not that AIDA isn't good, quite the contrary, but it's just to emphasize how good it is.

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Enough talking about the best fangames that have been released, how about we talk about the BEST fangame that NO ONE HAS RELEASED YET for whatever fucking reason?

Here's the BEST Touhou fangame you can make:
-Bullet Hell
-Has a story mode, but not too big, it's not the main focus (think of Hisoutensoku)
-Online VS mode (like Phantasmagoria or UDoaLG, but balanced and regularly updated to ensure it stays that way)
-Working, easy-to-use netcode that doesn't force you to download external shit to not play at 10FPS and 20 seconds of input delay
-A vast (I'm talking nearly ALL the games) cast that is regularly updated and expanded upon (fuck, I'd even pay for DLC). It can start off small but expand over time (Think Mystia's Izakaya or Genso Wanderer)
-A soundtrack that doesn't stray too far away from ZUN's style
-Hisoutensoku deck system that allows you to pick what attacks you want your boss to do when you send them over to your enemy's screen, shot types, etc
-Is avaliable on Steam

Want money? Fame? Recognition? Make this and you'll make the best Touhou fangame of all time. It'll be hailed as better than ZUN's rushed primitive yearly release messes.

TL;DR just make a super Touhou, I don't know how it hasn't been done yet, honestly. It's such a no-brainer for easy money.

>> No.45958397

>>45958192
That's boring, if I wanted to play mainline Touhou I'd just play mainline Touhou. The appeal of fangames is seeing unique interpretations of Gensokyo, or aspects of it untouched.

>> No.45958455

>>45958397
>if I wanted to play mainline Touhou I'd just play mainline Touhou
Ok? Go 1v1 your friend as playable Wriggle Nightbug in a mainline Touhou game. OH WAIT.

Fucking idiot

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It's not western, but Labyrinth of Touhou 2 is probably one of my all-time favorites. Doesn't really get too much talk because it's original release was... bad. Not horrible, but just the fact that it's 3x slower than the updated ports alone makes it hard to recommend without saying use a Cheatengine speedup, and by that point you might as well tell people to just not play the damn game. Aside from the OG releases crust and some stuff left over in the recent Steam updated port it's still stellar and absolutely worth your time. He's also making the third game now and I believe it's set to be released later this year? Story's all written up and now its just coding and bug crushing, which is a heavy "just".

Hell now that I think about it I'm totally blanking on any completely western projects beyond Pot's works, probably due to recency bias. Wish I could cuz the guys a retard and doesn't really deserve praise. I played a 3D bullet hell one that shilled itself as a Soulslike but it was for a gamejam so it's hard to count it as a full-on game. Especially since I can't remember the damn name and I'd rather kill myself than ever go into any Touhou itch.io gamejam page again. I imagine the lack of them comes both from that, meme games, and the fact that until recently there was never really a platform to sell a product which definitely crushed anything that wasn't a romhack. I'd shit on the western fanbase for it but without them I wouldn't have had translations for the past decade or so, so I can't complain too much about their output in doing things?

>>45958192
There's an entire engine made specifically for some of your points (besides multiplayer to my knowledge and "available on steam", what kinda retard are you to make a decision based on if its on Steam?) with countless custom bullet hells. Not really sure why you'd want that either, when the whole appeal to fangames is people trying out brand new things. Hell speaking of "games that never came out", Paper Tenko and Shanghai.EXE are some of them. They're both picked up by different people though the former was only ever a proof of concept, but they're much better examples.

>> No.45958862

>>45958192
I would just copy everything from PalWorld, and just plaster Touhou all over it.

>> No.45958891

>>45958808
>Wish I could cuz the guys a retard and doesn't really deserve praise
His output is a good quality and I can sympathize with not wanting to see your waifu get abused so I can tolerate that sperg out. Unless he's done other autistic shit, but really you gotta expect autism in Touhou stuff.

>Touhou itch.io gamejam
The pride stuff is so obnoxious and feels like it should be a violation of the "no political advocation" touhou rule. What happened to just calling shipping stuff yuri and what not anyways?

>> No.45958895

>>45958397
This. Also Phantasmagoria games are boring as fuck and I'm tired of pretending they're not. There's no strategy at all other than hoping your opponent is more retarded and dies to the spam first.

>> No.45958906

>>45958862
To you, what's so appealing and fun from Palworld?

t. I haven't played it myself but I'm surprised it's getting praise even here in the board that hates Pogeymangs and it's clones.

>> No.45958921

>>45958906
Nothing, I don't care about that game.
But it's really popular, so I would just ape on it, and slap some Touhou paint on it and sell it.

>> No.45958939

>>45958891
>Unless he's done other autistic shit,
Derailing a thread to bump limit is critical levels of autism, you don't gotta go to bat for the guy just cuz you liked his stuff.
>pride stuff
On one hand I get where you're coming from, but on the other hand that stuff is literal. It's not about politics, it's about politicians. A game saying "otherkin should be respected uwu" I need a fucking bath after that is not the same as "you know what Marisa, that Shinzo Abe guy makes some good points, we should go to our ballots right now!" which is specifically whats being targeted. ZUN otherwise doesn't care if you wanna make an image of Reisen saluting a flag. Also I'm pretty sure that's just a generic cover statement for copyrights to begin with?

>> No.45959163

>>45958192
Based on your idea Instead of Vs mode like phantasmagoria, i prefer something like senko no ronde (There's already genso rondo but i heard the netcode is terrible)

>> No.45959953

>>45957420
I personally enjoyed Udongein X more.
I hadn't played traditional SMT games before, but the combat didn't really have the depth it needed for a game of that length. After about 20h, I felt like I had seen basically every spell (although this was before unique spells were patched to be more usable).
Udongein X2 looks even better than the first one, so I'm getting really hyped. At this point, I care more about who gets into Udongein X2 as a boss than I ever cared about characters getting into Super Smash Bros, or whatever.
>>45957455
It might be worthwhile to compile a list of worthwhile jam games at some point. There are some good 'mini-games' there.

>> No.45960687

>>45958895
They're not, but even if they were that's why you're supposed to perfect the Phantasmagoria formula over time via constant updates. I just want a proper VS 2D Bullet Hell with a good cast.

>>45958808
Being on steam is more of a bonus, not a requirement. Also I know there's an engine for custom bullet hells, but the main point of what I'm talking about IS the VS multiplayer.

>>45959163
Don't know what that is but I'll look it up soon

>> No.45960761

>>45958891
You realize they do themes other than pride right?

>> No.45960874

>>45960761
It'd be hard to tell considering they've done like 50 pride ones. The other game jams are practically after thoughts, just there to say they do normal ones too

>> No.45960911

>>45960874
Not really, it's just that the pride ones last a full month and make more noise and the others last three days 2-3x a year like normal game jams so there's less time for people to be annoying about them. Most of the quality comes from the normal ones anyway.

>> No.45962411

>>45958939
>Derailing a thread to bump limit is critical levels of autism
No it's not, especially for a game that degenerate. Quite frankly, he deserves a medal for defending Reisen's honor.

If you want to see proper detestable autism, look at the MMD Ran guy.

>> No.45962492

>>45962411
>No it's not, especially for a game that degenerate. Quite frankly, he deserves a medal for defending Reisen's honor.
That level of 2D love defending is what sets apart the tru /jp/ vs the phonies, the frauds with FOTM "waifus".

>> No.45962807

>>45962411
If you still believe that was all the guy wanted after reading the autism that is >>/jp/thread/45179161, that the guy even apologized for, then hey man that's on you.
Also don't speak that name you fucking retard.
>>45960761
They do, but for better or worse (I'm being kinder than I should be) the entire western fanbase is filled to the brim with that kinda stuff to the point where it's impossible to care enough to not generalize it.

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>>45958808
What the flying fuck? It is nearly done?
I thought that since the character arts hadn't changed much he was still trucking along at a snail pace.

>> No.45962880

the best game that doesn't exist would be making a hitman style game where you play as tsukasa trying to assassinate reimu
or it could be different characters in different levels and you could play as the three fairies trying to steal from the shrine, or you play as an animal realm grunt tasked with stealing from other animal realm grunts

>> No.45963744

>>45962856
"Nearly done" in quotation marks. Like I said the dialogue/script is done with just some proofreading as of sometime last year, so that's probably done now. The scripting and actual game part is very far along but with bug-crushing and potential balance changes (since we already know we're not getting Maintenance again) could take anywhere from weeks to a year depending on his work pace. The maps I believe are done up to the final stratum but I can't find a source on that since iirc it was just in a text tweet, and the art is the easiest part. I'd outright ask him how the progress was going along but A. my nipponese is bad and B. that's impolite. Obviously take the devs words spread out over god knows how many months over mine.

>> No.45964109

>>45957420
This guy's latest WIPs posted on twatter are fucking impressive, he's going to make a lot of cash while here I am like a retard making projects for free and living in poverty and stagnation. fuck my stupid "I will never sell out" mentality, I deserve this. *headdesk*

>> No.45964182

>>45964109
he was in that exact same position until he released ADiA, he's even said as much in his tweets about making Udongein X2 where he said that he's having a much easier time doing X2 since he's not quite as much in danger of poverty now
so basically just uhh apply yourself :)

>> No.45964305

>>45964109
So long as you're not constantly bitching on twitter about how your game is getting pirated or some artist you've never met slighted you, then you can do anything if you apply yourself like anon said. Especially if you've got the experience of multiple projects behind you.

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I really enjoy Genso Wanderer despite it being BS sometimes. I don't feel sorry for savescum the odd Boss Battle (Flan demon tree was a pain.

With AIDA and Genso Wanderer my two favorite franchises had their game design applied to Touhou. I am a lucky man.

>> No.45965631

>>45964305
It's always amusing how much you guys screech over being told off for being too secondary to see a character as anything but a sex bunny.

>> No.45965682

I just like the good lucking danmaku games, HSoB, FDF and SSS come to mind. Shame that some are lost to time.

>> No.45966073

>>45965631
He didn't told anyone off. He was acting like a petty jealous child for a lewd fangame/artist was pulling in bigger player numbers at the time of its release, and some people here where giving him shit for it. If he knew anything about the game he would know that's its nothing special apart from the lewds, and would have nothing to be jealous about. Being a ZUN cannon purist in your own works is fine an all, but don't unironically go shit talking about other people fanworks and crying about lack of success. Doublely so when you are creating works that are not even your original content.

He apologized quickly after realizing that he was being petty. Don't know why are defending that type of annoying behavior.

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>>45958062
tried it kinda dropped it after the rumia encounter with lucas and claus, jokes mostly fell flat and had that issue with earthbound fangames were they don't really get the writing, some of the interactions were nice and cute such as aya being the photographer but also most were just fanfic/headcanon tier, the gameplay was fine, just cookie cutter old RPG stuff

>> No.45966166

>>45966085
I thought the jokes and humor were very charming. It feels like a time capsule of sorts, seeing stuff like Sakuya with the Jojo mask, copyrighted Pokemon characters, Yugi-oh stuff, it really takes me back, it's one of the big reasons why I like it. The story is a bit fanfic-tier, yeah, but I also quite like that. It's an interesting way of blending the 2 universes together

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>>45966085
>>45966166
I also like that it has a proper, genuinely good original soundtrack, and that each enemy has its' own theme (or, well most of them, you might find the same theme getting used for 3 different enemies but that's normal), one of my main gripes with ADIA was that the soundtrack, while good, gets very fucking repetitive, especially with every boss having the same theme with the exception of, like, 2, and also with every enemy encounter only having 3 themes total, depending on how far into the game you are. That really sucked.

I also like how in Touhou Mother they sometimes even mix soundtracks from both (or even just other) franchises together, this is really creative for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Sx-7MBW8k

>> No.45966252

>>45966085
We need a 2hu amogus clone but based on CDS

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>>45966231
if you are fine with me recommending another time capsule fangame with touhou stuff i'd say you should try out undertale 2 revenge of the robots, it's completely full of original assets and the pacing was peak

>> No.45966469

>>45965631
It's amazing how you're making leaps in logic that big over a guy who already backed down from his autistic statement. Or maybe I should say "backed down"?
Regardless, you're not going to change anyones opinion on him. The thread also isn't about him, since he's not special. It's about fangames. Talk about 'em or fuck off.

>> No.45967602

>>45962807
That's what people were making a fuss over? That was a total nothingburger. Am I missing something here?

>> No.45967730

He never answered what his thoughts on Kanye West were

>> No.45967909

>>45967602
It's one creator attacking another creator for something that they didn't like, the only way you could go more against the doujin spirit is if you did the same shit that Smash clone did.

>> No.45968052

>>45967602
Nobody cares about you Pot and X2 will also get pirated twice as much as its sales, now shut the fuck up and let people talk about fangames.

>> No.45968075

Anons, your thoughts on this >>45757637 post?

>> No.45968137

>>45967909
>the same shit that Smash clone did.
there's a 2hu smash clone?

>> No.45968208

>>45968137
Yeah https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Super_Smash_Battles

>> No.45968392

>>45967909
Yeah it's a bit of a dick move but it's a fucking reisen rape game, who would defend that? Besides he even backed down (second big mistake next to putting his name next to his posts). All of this considered this is really nothing, I thought it was something more heinous.

>>45968052
If I could make games ypu think I'd be making reisen and Sumireko shit? No I'd make a Yukari game where you slowly date Yukari and hold her hand and kiss her and make gappy happy

>> No.45968916

>>45968392
>Yeah it's a bit of a dick move but
>but
Stopped reading there. Find a different thread to shit up.

>> No.45969006

>>45968916
Calm down, you gonna freak out every time someone says something mean or autistic on the Internet?

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>>45958192
This, I'm tired of playing Touhou 9 and Touhou 19 fucking sucked, I just want to play bullet hell with frens

>> No.45969037

>>45967909
Stop DMCAing fanworks, ZUN.

>> No.45969062

>>45969037
ZUN didn't DMCA fangames, he DMCA'd the official games
that retarded translator who's wife cheated on him was the one going around offering to tell doujin circles how to get their games DMCA'd

>> No.45969079

>>45969062
Ohhh yes vely good ZUN-same the gaijin wirr nevel suspect you

>> No.45969425

>>45969037
I don't think I've ever seen him DMCA fanworks except those that specifically went against his wishes, so just off the top of my head the Smash bros game. There's probably more but none of them are ever really important for me to remember.
>>45969062
He also left the DMCA floating with no enforcement for over a year. That's an incredibly important point 'tards like to forget about in their "ZUN hates piracy he's given up the doujin spirit" meme.
Also DekinaiBlue's a cuck? Not surprising.

>> No.45969530

>>45968392
Anyone who lets anothers work negatively affect their view of their waifu doesn't deserve to call her their waifu, since your waifu exists in your soul alone. Maybe if she was getting it as bad as Haku does on iwara there'd be some semblance of a point.

>> No.45969862

>>45958192
>>45969015
Netcoding is tough tho, I'm not even sure how many 2hu fangames there are with decent online multiplayer(turn based doesn't count).
It's better than games with direct player interaction since stuff like rubberbanding can be avoided by correcting the position of the remote player character. But still kinda hard
If anyone's for the task tho, I would recommend to include stuff like a deck system once you have a working game since feature creep can kill your projects.
>>45960874
I think it's about 11 normal, 5 gay ones and a Jam going by the links https://itch.io/jam/touhou-jam-12
You can also get into a jams that aren't Touhou specific, nothing really stops you from putting Touhou or just making the base for the game having a bunch of generic placeholder sprites and then changing it after the jam.

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>>45958192
I'm surprised nobody has attempted to make a somewhat high quality FNAF clone yet.

>> No.45975519

>>45957420
It's really good, I'd like this guy (or anyone really) to take a shot at a SaGa-like Touhou game, Sappheiros is good but not as SaGa as I had initially hoped, still an excellent game though, I love it
Hoping someone makes a Horror VN someday, like idk some random guy in the outside world getting stalked by Yukari over the course of days because he was unlucky enough to be "spirited away" soon, so he starts getting paranoid and eventually losing his mind or something, you can just barely see glimpses of her in backgrounds at the start, a proper CG of Yukari is never shown and if it does it's like Beatrice from Umineko at the end of Episode 1
Really I just want more horror 2hu games, it would be interesting to see

>> No.45979405

>>45968392
>but it's a fucking reisen rape game, who would defend that?
First year in the touhou fandom?
Have you forgotten the 15.3 million touhou rape doujinshi? The hundred other rape games?
Yuuka island fucking?
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ289724.html
Remi sleep rape?
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01062195.html
Satori monster gangrape?
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ089420.html
Youmu getting raped by a dozen monsters in a cave?
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ237355.html
The dozens of similar games by the same guy?
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/circle/profile/=/maker_id/RG15251.html

What makes the Reisen one special? That it was on steam? Here's the above on steam that didn't get even a tenth of the discussion.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1538240/Youmu_Konpaku__Dungeon_of_Lewd_Creatures/
(Fun game by the way. Would recommend most of his work if you like platformers.)

Amazing how one autist forcing discourse anonymously changes perception from newfags.

>> No.45979478

>>45979405
>What makes the Reisen one special?
Literally nothing. That's why the guy was mocked.

>> No.45979533

I never really cared about the porn stuff. I only remember this guy because he always whines about Reisen in her threads.

>> No.45979544

>>45979478
Yeah I know I just felt like joining in with more games.
Seriously though the youmu one was actually pretty fun but not $30 fun so pirate it.

>>45979533
Can't imagine acting that way while willingly indulging in the fandom with the largest amount of porn in the history of media, not even actual porn titles have this much porn.

>> No.45979585

Bestiality is passé, the nips need to jump on the futa gangbang mindbreak train.

>> No.45979601

>>45979405
>Have you forgotten the 15.3 million touhou rape doujinshi? The hundred other rape games?
What makes you think those are liked by people who hate Reisen rape? Beastiality, rape, NTR, guro, it's all bad. "Well it's there and it's not going away" well I sure as hell can bitch about it and demand a nice big wall between normal people and people who like this stuff

>> No.45979622

>>45979601
Hello Potemki can you put special weapons in Udongein X2 please?

>> No.45979636

>>45979601
You are in the wrong fandom if you hate porn.

>> No.45979658

>>45979622
Believe it or not, more than one person can dislike things like "giant insect degrading a woman". Don't believe me? Test it out yourself, show your family the game and ask them their thoughts on it! The reactions may surprise you!

>> No.45979691

EraADiA when?

>> No.45979701

>>45979601
You can bitch about it anonymously, changes when you go
>durr hurr that WEIRDO made a game I, a game dev, didn't like
or whatever retarded shit he said in that deleted tweet.

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The likelihood of Hecatia appearing in Udongein X2 is now overwhelmingly high!
What other bosses would you like to see?
If we're going to hell, I wouldn't mind seeing either of Eiki, Komachi, Yachie, Yuuma or Hisami make an appearance.

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>>45979658
>show your family the game and ask them their thoughts on it!
Your thoughts on it are the same as people who've never seen a 2hu let alone any otaku culture before in their life?

>> No.45979730

it's like you guys have never seen reisen get raped by an insect before

>> No.45979754

>>45979730
at this point I am completely convinced pot just wants people to draw more bugfucking porn of his waifu and he's just repressing it hard

>> No.45979785

>>45979544
It didn't need to be porn actually. He used whine about her being ooc in fanart or ZUN not bringing her back as a protagonist. while seething at Sakuya and Youmu for being less interesting characters.

>> No.45979806

>>45979636
Anon, if the only thing you get out of hearing "Beastiality, necrophilia, and guro are disgusting" is "Oh they just hate porn" then please, for the love of God, step away from the computer. Get help. You are desensitized to a dangerous level.

>>45979720
Despite the higher level of autism, I imagine most Touhou fans find that stuff disgusting. Because most people find that stuff disgusting. But again, test the hypothesis, start showing the game to random people and asking for their opinions.

>> No.45979846

>>45979702
Since the dev can do good-looking low-poly 3d these days, I wonder if we'll see some 3D stuff for the 'Sigma' fight?

>> No.45979952

>>45979658
Why do you only complain about one game out of the thousands that do the same thing

>> No.45980032

>>45979533
He also apparently lurks this board enough to shitpost in threads with his game as the OP.
Well, guess that means next time we just gotta let this shit sink.

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>>45979806
Did you realize when you made this post that your last post comparing NTR and rape to guro and bestiality was retarded, or are you actually so autistic you forgot your own point and are currently chest-deep in the sauce?

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>>45979601
>I sure as hell can bitch about it and demand a nice big wall between normal people and people who like this stuff.
Go away.

>> No.45980312

>>45980032
I'm actually half convinced it's trolls pretending to be him every so often too.

>> No.45980345

>>45980312
That's a given.

>> No.45980491

>>45980312
Not a doubt in my mind. But who cares if someone misses their called shot and hits a troll when the dude's already linked himself to this site once?

>> No.45980625

>>45980069
NTR and rape (male on female, it's fine when it's the reverse) are equally as bad yes.

>>45980127
The fuck gaslighting is this where /jp/ has somehow been a haven where this shit is loved? It's always been controversial outside of its threads on /d/. It's controversial anywhere. The hubris of the guy who gets off to insects acting like he's in good company anywhere.

>>45979952
Anon struggles with the concept of things happening even if he hasn't witnessed them.

>> No.45980644
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>>45980625
I don't want to hear opinions from some new post-covid "fan"

>> No.45980817

>>45980625
>NTR and rape [...] are equally as bad yes.
It's a good thing your opinion doesn't matter. Good on you for dodging that draft by shooting yourself in the foot here tonight though.

>> No.45981110

It's really impossible for the subHumans that are into bestiality, rape, mindbreak/hypnosis/slavery (death of the original human personality, agency, motivations, goals, body autonomy and freedom), on characters that are human or with humanized traits to not contaminate fan content that doesn't humiliate or dehumanizes the characters, right? So insistent, again and again. Ever wonder why? The REISEN, the Meiling series, that MMD origin story where Sakuya gets captured by a bloodsucker guy, until with the assistance of Remilia she kills him... The characters are damaged, maimed, and hurt, there is guro on those, but you still feel there is an "overcoming something", a human story. They still can be appreciated; they are about overcoming trauma and struggling to gain something in a messed up setting. Compare this to the almost procedurally generated Byakuren and Patchouli games of that 第N本舗 using the same assets. Those games are great examples because the human restraints, desire for higher ideals, lust for knowledge, etc etc that characterized both get eroded and replaced by SUBMISSION to other creatures.

Or the 'porn' that has the characters getting golden showers, passed by the dozens, defeated and treated as a meat sack in traffic rings, killed or as property. It's not, never is, and never will be about sex. It's ALWAYS about destroying. Those are characters that WE idealize, way stronger than regular humans. They have traits that make them stand out. Characters loved in the minds of millions, and they get perpetually lessened, the things that make them unique erased, their bonds and occupations scraped in settings that make all of this look normal, and even the other girls, even if they are part of their 'family' or very close to them usually contribute to the plot, in the most insane way for a human mind to ideate, or easily sweeped into it.


Hilariously they claim something alike to defending their (Human) "Rights" to spread their rot (those are Limited by the way, not being able to step on other's rights). It's not about containing; simply not INVADING something saturated enough as are actual fangames that don't have the characters getting raped and abused. They will keep pretending we are bigots that don't want to see porn, but the porn is always included as something that harms them instead of real relationships, consented sex, or literally anything else that you wouldn't mind anyone you care about going through. Always losing their former status, abuse and trauma almost institutionalized. Yet that's the thing: then they wouldn't make actual fans of the characters, who love them, miserable. They don't want people to defend themselves from abuse. Exactly as it happens in those games, image sets and doujins. And exactly as they operate in and outside the net. This is how evil seeks to perpetuate itself in a loop. Sowing seeds for learned helplessness, giving a lasting impression in the mind that there is something harmful greater in strength, numbers or resources to which you have to submit to, or be yourself that repulsive thing, to not be the one abused.

Those authors always employ plot lines that resemble the manipulation and personality destruction seen in drug rings and human trafficking mafias. Hell, there are enough rumours to believe that some may even be actually involved with them, seeing also how their mindset operates in the same way. I've seen enough of the dark side of reality to believe that there is "something" else, something trying to normalize human abuse in both fiction and reality. Internet is infested with bots, and since I was an early teen, twenty years ago, you would as now see dozens of accounts in hentai sites and lynch mobs defend content with gangbangs and all this in a disproportionate amount to actual vanilla, sex toys, feet, pits or whatever other fetish that doesn't involve the character getting this image of becoming 'less'. This idea of destroying personalities and normalizing ritual abuse spreads, fittingly, like a collective virus, like bots, a disease by insects; mindless replication. I have to block dozens of trash accounts in pixiv, related tags in other sites, filters here, and yet they still try to make you see them. I've seen enough abuse of the character I love the most to know it wasn't a good idea to say anything on her "game" years back, seeing a chance to intervene and attack them keeping her idea safe, thanks to those Reisen threads. Since they are literal INSECTS they collectively identify all resistance as a problem of a single Personality, in this case pokemin or whatever his name is. Can't have a thread with the trigger without them rearing their heads. Actual people just can't be bothered to spend the time propagating harmful ideas, and that's the most obvious sign this is something else. So this is for the reader with an human mind.

Always defend yourself, and never see abuse of what you love as normal. Don't get dragged down with them

>> No.45981130

>>45981110
wow mucho fucking texto
I don't even like that shit but who the fuck cares
take your meds

>> No.45981142

>>45981110
You are the hero we need

>> No.45981162

>>45981110
nice wall of text you fucking nerd now here's my favourite reisen doujin
https://exhentai.org/g/1824946/53304cc239/

>> No.45981588

>>45957420
>Is this the best Western Touhou fangame?
It's good but to be honest I'm finding it hard to finish because it god repetitive sort of fast for my tastes. Fractured Transience is looking amazing though and I'm not even into platform fighters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x_186rIyEw

>> No.45981632

>>45980625
Follow your own advice and ask your family what's worse on what order. Cheating, rape, slicing someone's guts and necrophilia. Chances are their order is mine but in reverse, with the last 2 being debatable evils not even close to the first two.

Also what the fuck is that wall holy shit!

>> No.45981690

>>45981110
so what you're saying is that if I don't throw a tantrum on the internet because something I don't like exists, I actively hate the character and want to see them demeaned, destroyed, and demolished?

>> No.45981713
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>>45981110
Okay schizo. Anyways here's a doujin you might like.
https://exhentai.org/g/1136032/7472de5638/

>> No.45981723

>>45981110
They hated him because he spoke the truth. Degenerates belong on the cross.

>> No.45981731

>>45981690
I'm surprised you even managed to get to the second paragraph let alone the end. Reminded me of those schizo dream threads from way back when, wonder what happened to that anon?

>> No.45981752

>>45981723
At least get the quote right if you're gunna funpost
>Degenerates LIKE you belong on the cross

>> No.45982191

>>45981752
Who are you quoting?

>> No.45983830

>>45982191
i'm quoting >>21648754

>> No.45983975

What the absolute fuck is going on here?

>> No.45984016

>>45983975
OP had Potemki's games so people who got obliterated thr first time he dropped truthbombs about t*korin are crawling out of the woodwork to tell you he's bad.

>> No.45984032

>>45984016
Oh, so someone just left some bait and some retards came to take it.

>> No.45984677

>>45983975
/jp/ anon made game, had an autistic meltdown afterwards about an insect rape game made about his waifu, now some people can't stop being drama whores talking about how he's a big meanie hurr doujin spirit traitor durr

I think he's retarded but also based since he's making stuff for the love he feels for his waifu. No one sane does that. It comes with the package. The autistic meltdown over the insect rape game was 100% the expected outcome for someone like that. Even then I accept him, faults and all. He's based. Keep making games and escape your hellhole

>> No.45985081

>>45984677
>/jp/ anon
>autistic enough to make AiDA
>have autisic meltdown over his waifu
>pikachusurprisedface.jpg

It's a /jp/sy, so it's totally normal to have autistic meltdowns over shit.

>doujin spirit
>what the fuck?

Do "people" really shill for a fucking insect, rape, probably NTR "game"? Or they are just trolling and bullying that guy for the lulz?

>> No.45986913

>>45985081
You are really bad at this samefagging thing anon.

>> No.45986948

potemki is a faggot that cannot stop himself from putting others down to make himself look better at every opportunity he gets (like when he bragged about releasing his game before 17.5, after tasofro's sole programmer fell deathly sick) then backpedalling the second people call him out on his bullshit, the takorin incident just so happened to be the most recent example

>> No.45986961

>>45986948
He should get anally fucked

>> No.45987098

>>45986948
He's retarded, but you're more retarded for bumping.

>> No.45987623

>>45986913
Meds, schizo.

>> No.45990081
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Waiting warmly for this StS clone. The colored mana mechanic looks interesting.
>>45979544
I think people who complain about lewd 2hu are just tired of seeing it dominate discussion (at least on places like jaypee). And fair enough that shit can get brainless, but they gotta take a step back and see how equally useless it is to whine about it in those kinds of threads.
Sadly some never learn how to deal with it. I used to be the same as a newfag but mellowed out quick.

>> No.45990545

>>45981110
Nobody pointed it out probably because reading that schizophrenic mess takes as much mental effort as chopping vines in a jungle does physical so I'll point out the idea that any doujinka, let alone enough to be called "some", are part of human trafficking rings are genuinely insane. Never take your meds though, this is as funny as you are clinically insane.
>>45990081
The games been out for a year now and pretty much feature complete for half of that. The only things missing right now are Koishi's two decks, unless that's changed in the past couple months, the Koishi/Cirno optional stage 1 boss fights, and more than 2-3 third color cards and some art of which the beta art is pretty cute enough. But the final bosses are there, the dialogues all there now, events are pretty much all there unless they get ideas for more, so on and so forth.

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>>45990081
I have to get that game at some point. Right now I'm trying to work through my backlog and grinding through Mystia's Izakaya.
Another game I want to get is Hero of Ice Fairy, heard it is pretty good.

>> No.45991732

>>45990545
Damn, part of me wants to bite the bullet and dive into EA. Also weren't they planning to add workshop support down the line or am I misremembering?
>>45991715
Still waiting for all DLCs for Mystia's game before I get it.

>> No.45992340

I wish purityfags/moralfags were raped and killed.

>> No.45994496

To this day I find it really bizarre that there aren't really any touhou fan VNs or dating sim type things despite being a ridiculously suitable setting for it due to the cast/lore autism and making those would be a *lot* less effort than most of the fan stuff that does exist. There's TW but I don't really count that.

>> No.45994515

>>45990081
I thought this was really good actually, probably the best StS clone. The problem it is though is that it is too blatantly a StS clone, it even has an option when you start the game to say if you've played StS before so it knows to skip the majority of the tutorials.

It's a shame because the mana system IS definitely an improvement, the characters are generally much more definied/interesting than StS, music is really really good in general and everything's well done imo. But it'll never really be praised for all it did well because it's still 80% a clone of something else.

Shit playable roster too imo

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>>45990545
There are also hidden achievements for Alice so she's probably coming after Koishi. I imagine she'll focus on using rainbow mana which should be interesting.

>> No.46000342

>>45970905
why would they? touhou doesn't fit that setting at all

>> No.46000350

>>46000342
Sure does, you can be a villager trying to hide from predatory youkai at night.

>> No.46000358

>>46000350
Trying to steal your semen of course!

>> No.46000462
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>>45994496
>To this day I find it really bizarre that there aren't really any touhou fan VNs or dating sim type things despite being a ridiculously suitable setting for it due to the cast/lore autism and making those would be a *lot* less effort than most of the fan stuff that does exist

I'd make one, I can program, draw and animate but I can't write for shit. Pic related, my best writing.

>> No.46001011

>>45958808
Speedup to make the game run faster or do you mean that you have to grind a lot?
Also, would you recommend the first game?

>> No.46001022

>>46000462
I can write. I just can't do any of the others. Alas.

>> No.46001122

>>46000462
>>46001022
Now collab.

>> No.46013058

>>46000462
>>46001022
I can program too and I know when writing is shit.

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