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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?

>> No.45993170
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would, as the kids might say

>> No.45993253

JAV

>> No.45993273

how do you learn japanese

>> No.45993277

>>45993273
Read more

>> No.45993284

>>45993273
Learn Korean instead. Korean translations of Japanese VNs are always better than the original text. They just know how to write better than Japanese writers.

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45993293

>>45993273
Find someone who already knows Japanese and suck their dick, their semen contains Japanese-knowledge dna that if you ingest will teach you kana.

>> No.45993307

>>45993273
You read https://guidetojapanese.org/, learn kana by repetition, and start reading eroge with a hooker. After a couple of years of reading with a hooker you'll eventually remember enough to ditch the hooker and read almost freely.

>> No.45993310

>>45993307
Sorry, meant couple of months. I should proofread my posts before I hit post.

>> No.45993314 [SPOILER] 
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i swear i'm getting emotionally destroyed so fuckin bad

>> No.45993324

>>45993310
I very much envy you if you manage to do it in a couple of months instead of a couple of years.

>> No.45993334

>>45993314
You wanted something lighthearted, didn't you?

You should read Natsuyume Nagisa next.

>> No.45993343

>>45993284
I don't believe you.

>> No.45993383

>>45993324
Theres no way. I had tons of free time my first 6 months, and have always spent most of my free time in japanese content since I started, and though I've never used a hooker, VN lookups didn't reach what I would call low frequency until about 12 months in, as someone who has a look up every little thing I don't know style, anime/manga lookups already being very low at that point. This was also when reading speed started to get fast and I would say about 16 months in was when I was really reading 'fluidly'. Unless I'm a retard it's gotta take tons of time. I didn't bother with VNs until 6 months in so the no hooker thing wasn't as torturous as it sounds, I jus didn't like the idea of using one. If you're actually going to start with VNs with 0 experience though absolutely use a hooker.

>> No.45993410

>>45993383
12-16 months is still far less than "a couple of years"

>> No.45993411

Should I read Jeweha even tho I accidentally opened some spoiler CGe?

>> No.45993419

>>45993410
Yeah but I think it basically counts as a couple years assumign you won't be able to put in as many hours/day as me, which is safe to assume

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45993439

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn peak setoguchi moment right here
>>45993334
yeah that was my original intention
i'll definitely have to read something lighthearted (confirmed) after this one
thanks for that rec

>> No.45993445

>>45993411
What was the CG?

>> No.45993525 [SPOILER] 
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45993525

i'm crying so fucking hard, i wasn't ready for this

>> No.45993668

>>45993525
>>45993439
Based. I should reread this shit someday.

>> No.45993669 [SPOILER] 
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NO MOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.45993721

>>45993439
>>45993334
Natsunagi isn't really lighthearted...

>> No.45993722

>>45993721
read the fucking room

>> No.45993744

>>45993445
Part where pink hair was drinking blood with someone and how the game surprises you with fake ending.

>> No.45993767

Is Muramasa still worth playing if I was spoiled on the antagonist being MC's sister?

>> No.45993770

>>45993767
Yes

>> No.45993772

>>45993767
that's literally nothing

>> No.45993773 [SPOILER] 
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45993773

FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU NIIJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.45993776

is nukitashi still worth playing if I was spoiled on mc starting HRT in true route

>> No.45993784

is criminal border still worth playing if I was spoiled on the bro character getting killed and shoved into a box

>> No.45993802

>>45993744
then you're spoiled on the biggest twist and without the twists it's a pretty whatever game

>> No.45993840

>>45993770
>>45993772
Is there a lot of foreshadowing?

>> No.45993854

>>45993802
そうか...

>> No.45993864

>>45993744
There's more than just that but read until the part with the first protagonist CG to see if you like it or not, the rest feels similar to that part.

>> No.45993874

>>45993784
Can't believe we actually ate him as soup

>> No.45993938

>>45993744
If you don't have context you probably won't understand what those mean.

>>45993767
>>45993840
There is no "foreshadowing" because it's not a plot twist and is casually mentioned 10-20% into the game. Stop being retarded and go play it before you get actually spoiled.

>> No.45993953

20h into riddle joker and I can feel my braincells dying. Moege isn't for me

>> No.45993994

>>45993307
I don't know, I tried that but the hooker kept complaining it's boring and she would prefer we have sex. She kept raising her prices too since "How many more fucking cooking scenes are there? What about the Grail War? You gotta pay me more to read this shit" and it got rather pricey. I got to the point where I ditched her, but now she keeps calling about supporting the Kiminozo Kickstarter so Kouki has money to write the remake. Keeps saying that if her pimp can donate a few bucks to a man of culture so can I. So yeah, wouldn't recommend it.

>> No.45994014

>>45993953
I fucking love riddle joker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGVtvEd5gjw&ab_channel=%E3%81%AB%E3%82%83%E3%82%8B%E3%82%89%E3%82%8B

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45994039

i'm so fucking destroyed i don't even know what to say
it's been years since i've been this active in these threads and it was fun to share the experience here
the only thing left for me to say is:
Hatsuyuki Sakura... completed

>> No.45994045

>>45994039
卒業おめでとう!

>> No.45994047

>>45994039
congrats, anon

>> No.45994078

>>45993953
For moege I always save my favorite heroines for last, then drop the entire game during the first route. Fucking hate myself.

>> No.45994080

>>45994078
>Fucking hate myself.
Moege is meant to fix that.

>> No.45994091

>>45994078
that's the wrong way to do it, you play the heroine you're most interested in immediately, love it, then accidentally discover that the heroine you ended up playig last was even more to your liking than the first

>> No.45994092

>>45994080
*tren

>> No.45994097

Reading moege often makes me want to kill myself because I feel like I'm wasting my time on nothing. Never happens with plotge, however.

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>>45994091
>>45994078
Everyone knows you read moege by starting with the second best heroine then moving from worst to best

>> No.45994104

>read best heroine first
>drop the rest
>mark it as finished

>> No.45994109

>>45994101
Which one has inverted nips?

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45994110

>>45994109

>> No.45994118

>>45994078
I was doing the same until a few years ago, then I stopped caring. I only do my favorite heroines in moege, and never touch the others now.

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Ah shit here we go again

>> No.45994126

>>45994121
I got why so many games were delayed because of the 'rona, but the 'rona's over now and the delays keep happening. Did it just royally fuck the industry and they still haven't recovered?

>> No.45994129

Not doing all heroines is disrespectful to the staff.

>> No.45994131

>>45994126
moeslop devs are retards

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>>45994126
At least they gave an explanation this time

>> No.45994141

>>45994110
i said that as a joke but now i may have to read amakano

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45994148

>>45994141
If you like moege it's about as good as moege get.

>> No.45994149

>>45994104
i actually went back to try completing some vns where i only finished 1-2 routes
then got sidetracked by the heroines i've read and never touched the unread ones

>> No.45994163

>>45994149
I can't even reread things I've enjoyed 5-6 years ago because I know plot already.

>> No.45994164

>>45994129
But what if I don't like the heroine archetype that much?
Considering it's not a ge where every route helps you understand the main plot.

>> No.45994176

>>45994164
They added the heroine because they thought the target audience would enjoy her. Why not keep an open mind instead of disregarding her based on archetypes?

>> No.45994178

>>45994148
i know it's regarded as a top tier vn i just don't have a lot of free time but we'll see.

>> No.45994182

>>45994178
>i just don't have a lot of free time
You're posting here, kyoudai. You have too much free time.

>> No.45994184

>>45994163
at times like these, i'm glad i have an abysmal memory

>> No.45994187

>>45994182
i'm at work niggah

>> No.45994199

>>45994187
boss! this guy just used the n-word! get him fired!

>> No.45994202

>>45994163
i can enjoy some stuff i remember perfectly

>> No.45994215

>>45994184
I don't remember details, but I still remember like general plot, especially when something actually impressed me. I'll try some more rereading later. Really want to experience dies irae again, but in japanese.

>> No.45994233

>>45994215
>reading translated dies
bro...

>> No.45994242

>>45994233
We all make mistakes back in our eop days.

>> No.45994268

yuzu has a stream coming up?
guys what if their next game is this year...

>> No.45994275

>>45994268
>yuzu
kinda trash taste

>> No.45994276

>>45994268
Very unlikely but not impossible.

>> No.45994290

>>45994242
>Inb4 new Yuzusoft SOUR

>> No.45994298

>>45994290
Honestly it seems most likely. Announce a new side project, do a trailer, say the real announcement for their next mainline game will drop sometime over the summer for a release at the end of the year or early next year and show one piece of key art.

>> No.45994315

>>45994290
still need to actually try Parquet

>> No.45994328

>>45994268
yuzu have constant radio streams, nothing new really
they

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>>45994275
Yuzu is the Mozartian opera of moege
>really stupid situation
>characters feelings about that situation are taken 100% seriously, and delivered with utmost sincerity despite the situation they're having feelings about being played as silly/a joke
>it just works
which is also the 醍醐味 of 二次元

>> No.45994348

I wonder if there's an eroge featuring an MC who's obsessed with Gunpla. Basically Keroro Gunsou but human.

>> No.45994356

>>45994131
Source?

>> No.45994358

>>45994356
source: just trust me bro

>> No.45994360

>>45994110
Damn, I want to read Amakano, but the ugly character art is hard to stomach. Why would they deliberately make the heroines look 10 years older than they are. Why make them look like hags?

>> No.45994378

>>45994215
yeah you should try rereading it. chuunige is miles better in japanese

>> No.45994383

>>45993411
>>45993744
Damn kids who think stories are "ruined" by seeing some out-of-context "spoiler" are fucking subhuman, unless the story is just that bad that it has to rely on twists to be any remotely decent.
If anything, I like OPs full of "spoilery" CGs and the like because it makes me look forward to reading, and I like the feeling of coming to a part and being like "oh, so this is what that cool CG in the opening was".

>> No.45994390

>>45994383
>akshually spoilers make story better!
Stfu moecuck-snowflake.

>> No.45994397

>>45994109
The fat mexican friend I had when I was 11.

>> No.45994425

>>45994390
>t. someone who never rewatches or rereads things like a sheeple "consumer"

>> No.45994428

>>45994425
>buzzwords
Get back to to reddit.

>> No.45994445

>>45994360
>but the ugly character art
I know everyone has different tastes, but you must have a severe case of hag hate to think these character designs are ugly because they look slightly older than your average moege JK.

I also never read Amakano, but it's rare game that has me interested in all the heroines just because they all look so pretty.

>> No.45994451

>>45994428
The word "buzzword" is a "buzzword" itself, genius.
Also "consumer" is a common word, and if anything, "sheeple" is more used by old people on Facebook and the like.

>> No.45994454

>>45994383
A cool opening is very important factor to pick up a VN, I agree. Spoilers without context mean nothing, for example the Root Double op 1 shows the main heroine dead but you wont know whats up until you read.

>> No.45994455

>>45994451
Too late buddy. Your akshually isn't going to work.

>> No.45994458

>>45994101
Should I play 1 before 2?

>> No.45994471

https://vndb.org/v22026

Recommend me some other age gap romance stories like this. The age of the heroine doesn't matter as long she's a minor and the MC an adult. No pointless nukige though.

>> No.45994473

>>45994360
every moege practically has really young looking girls, which leaves a niche open to capitalize on
they don't look bad anyway
the one on the far righ tin particular looks like a lot of jks who look mature for their age, you know the type right?
only the one on the far left actually looks too old to believably be a jk
more importantly their tits disturb me

>> No.45994486

>>45994455
This has nothing to do with being mentally fragile to the point that seeing some interesting plot point of something ""ruins"" it for you.

>> No.45994490

>>45994445
I'm sorry, I just find any adult looking character ugly. Could'even get a boner if I tried.

>> No.45994500

>>45994473
>the one on the far righ tin particular looks like a lot of jks who look mature for their age, you know the type right?

I always skip such routes if possible. lol

>> No.45994504

>>45994486
>mentally fragile
We both know you want to use "fragile male ego" here. Go on. I already know you are a fucking retard and your opinion is completely invalid and irrelevant.

>> No.45994517

Is it pedophile hours right now?

>> No.45994519

Where are our blogposters? We need you bros, this is getting retarded.

>> No.45994523

>>45994101
Silver girl is pure sex. Picked up

>> No.45994527

>>45994517
Don't use P word, we are MAP (minor attracted person)

>> No.45994535

>>45994504
You cannot argue that a story is ruined by knowing some interesting details without going off-topic about my identity or vocabulary.

>> No.45994545

>>45994517
Pedophile medium from pedophile country.

>> No.45994548

>>45994527
Can I still use lolicon?

>> No.45994551

>>45994548
Sure.

>> No.45994557

>>45994535
>noo you can't do this, you should do that
Yep, it's always retards like you. Fuck off.

>> No.45994560 [DELETED] 

Whites, get out and replenish your birth rates already.

>> No.45994566 [DELETED] 

>>45994560
No

>> No.45994570 [DELETED] 

>>45994560
Go back to /pol/ with your racism.

>> No.45994571

>>45994471
Hina route in Himanatsu
Not an eroge but Higehiro

>> No.45994599

>>45994557
You still cannot prove that stories are not worth reading when you happen to know interesting things in advance. At this point you can also stop reading summaries or asking people about anything. Just start downloading random shit from Sukebei and hope the story is very good because you know nothing about it.

>> No.45994605 [DELETED] 

>>45994570
There is nothing racist about any of that.

>> No.45994609 [DELETED] 

>>45994560
Whenever you give me a woman as pure and beautiful as my eroge heroines.

>> No.45994619
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45994619

Need a vn with this type of dumb osananajimi

>> No.45994623

>>45994599
>still trying to tell me how I should interact with medium
Fuck off and seek validation elsewhere, tourist buddy.

>> No.45994626

>>45994519
>4th fastest thread in /jp/
So we are getting raided... again...

>> No.45994631

>>45993411
Yes, the story is more interesting that way. Can't even remember a single VN that I didn't get spoiled on or figure out the spoilers in advance.

>> No.45994633

>>45994623
Not HOW you should interact with it, but THAT you should interact with it. Because according to you, things are not worth interacting with if you have vague knowledge beforehand.

>> No.45994716

>>45994599
>Just start downloading random shit from Sukebei and hope the story is very good because you know nothing about it.
Actually, some of the best games I ever played are like that. No summaries, no expectations, no nothing, just go in after looking at the cover art or whatever. Of course, the game has to be some what decent in quality, but my overall enjoyment does tend to get better than games I waited months but didn't deliver.

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>>45994619
Dunno man, proactive heroines tend to get shitted on because how much focus she gets over other heroines and the guilt trip if they don't choose her, especially for childhood frienda because she's like spending years trying to get MC, would sting hard if player don't cater to her after she gives the effort to get closer to MC. Except maybe for single heroine VNs.

>> No.45994833
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45994833

Finally done with Hakkenden
Lots of deaths for shock value and some twists out of nowhere, but at least it kept me entertained. I liked how the whole vengeance thing was concluded with "but it feels good to kill these fuckers, now my life can start" rather than the usual "vengeance is bad." I don't know what the bad guys were going to do in the end, since the MCs attacked them before they could start their plan. After stories kind of cancel everything bad that happened, and everyone revives, but at least the MCs are forgotten, so every side character lives their life as they want, and it doesn't end up as a fully happy ending. I thought characters with dogs were the ones who retained their memory, but it seems like not. Kumataka deserved better.
For routes: Kobungo > Dousetsu > Sousuke > Shinbe
For characters: Kobungo > Daikaku > Dousetsu > Shino > Genpachi > Shinbe > Keno > Sousuke
Obviously not a kamige, and I will forget most of what happened in a few months, but overall, I liked it.
I do hope they made a profit at least. Seeing how much it was marketed for how much data is on EGS so far, doesn't seem like it will hit big at all.
Now back to the backlog until unravel trigger.

>> No.45994832

>>45994716
>No summaries, no expectations, no nothing, just go in after looking at the cover art or whatever.
This. I can relate.
For me the best games were either this, or something from a developer I've been following for a long time.

>> No.45994895

>>45994633
>vague knowledge
>cg spoiling biggest twist in vn
>nooo you cannot enjoy vns with twists because I told you not to

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45994938

>>45994360
>Here's your 17 years old bro

>> No.45994951

>>45994895
>nooo you cannot enjoy vns with twists because I told you not to
That's YOUR opinion, though. I enjoy VNs with twists whether I knew about them or not.

>> No.45994963

https://www.youtube.com/live/u9pnJlSKWrU
Alcot stream

>> No.45995003

>>45994963
>Crowdfunding
>All ages
Into the trash it goes

>> No.45995013

>>45994938
She looks 16 to me

>> No.45995020

>>45994360
The character art in amakano 2 is one of the best in the indistry wtf are u on

>> No.45995024

>>45994938
i looked like this in my 17th

>> No.45995049

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kxjpg57rK0
>influencer whore heroine
yuck

>> No.45995067

>>45994951
No, it's not my opinion, it's intended way by creator. No creator intentionally crafts story aimed towards self-spoilers. Much like consuming in original language is intended and only correct way to consume japanese fiction.

>> No.45995082

>>45995049
WAKARASETAI!

>> No.45995115

>>45995067
>Axanael

>> No.45995123

Anyone read Kyonyuu elf oyako saimin?
does the witch have a route?

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45995131

this is a 10-year-old

>> No.45995132

>>45995049
>zoomer heroine
Into the trash it goes

>> No.45995152

>>45995123
yeah she has a route, good game, i think its lune's best saimin game.

>> No.45995182

>>45995152
Nice, thank you,she's just my type of elf.

>> No.45995273

>>45993307
I've been doing that for 5 years now and I still can't read without a hooker. How much is a couple years?

>> No.45995278

>>45995273
Read more

>> No.45995293

>>45994039
Have you done the Ayaya side route

>> No.45995363

>>45995273
5 years seems long enough to try to reading on your own. It's painful at first, but hooker is a crutch. If you don't let it go, you'll be stuck with it forever.

>> No.45995371

>>45994938
looks like AI art

>> No.45995484

Caring about spoilers is similar to being a Marvel consumers. The big twists and contrived novelty is all they seem to care about.

>> No.45995504

>>45995363
>using Hookers
>they haven't ascended to a more imaginative way of reading Japanese text yet

>> No.45995508

>>45995484
Deranged moebuta typed this shit while moege consumers closer to marvel consumers in terms of mediocrity

>> No.45995524

>>45995371
AI art doesn't have that many details, plus it doesn't look like it was drawn by the same "person" just like all AIshit

>> No.45995598

>>45994833
How many hours

>> No.45995736

>>45994963
>Reasons for disbanding: The boss is too old and not healthy enough to continue for a long time after Clover's Memory. It's not bankruptcy. He doesn't think the eroge market is in a bad state.
>They worked with Ensemble Sweet for the last few years.
>Crowdfunding is mostly because they want to do a big event for their last VN, with lots of goodies and all for closure.
>CF starts in March.
>If the CF doesn't work, no Clover's Memory.
>Release scheduled for December 2025.
>Clover's Memory is all-age because Campfire is against 18+ works, so they will do a 18+ patch.
>>45995598
No idea since I don't count, but probably something between 30 and 40h

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45995766

I got distracted with other things and have been reading Sayonara Mayumi-Chan (wheelchairge-obscurege an anon giften a few threads back) at a snail's pace, but I'll now try to pick up the pace.
I like the titular wheelchaired heroine, Mayumi. She's sweet and innocent and in a way kind of reminds me of Nagisa from Clannad (especially when both have health conditions). I'm focusing to get her ending. The game's title does suggest some sort of separation, though.
There's a philosophical menhera sort of girl (picrel) which I find interesting, and I could try getting her ending after Mayumi's, though the guide an anon shared a few threads back says that getting the endings other than Mayumi's requires bringing a "悲しい結末" upon her, which is a bit sad.
Other than that there's a loli-like nurse, and a megane nurse. To be honest, neither seems to be too interesting to me. There are also two hags, but that's out of the question.
I'm looking forward to see how things will play out.

>> No.45996387

>>45995736
>Reasons for disbanding: The boss is too old
Eroge industry needs zoomer companies, so it won't die just because all eroge directors who started in 2000s are ancient now

>> No.45996407

nunge?

>> No.45996423

>>45996387
Qruppo definitely has that zoomie-ish vibe.

>> No.45996478

>>45994963
https://youtu.be/u9pnJlSKWrU?t=2579
clover memory's will be all ages with an r18 patch

>> No.45996485

>>45996387
Declining birth rate, please understand. Also it's hard to start an eroge company and go full passion in an age where you could potentially get fucked over even if you landed a job at a good "normal" company.

>> No.45996539

>>45996387
Zoomers don't exist in Japan, literally everyone there is older than your mom. Eroge is also heading towards the Chinese because no one else cares about reading powerpoints.

>> No.45996593

>>45996387
>Eroge industry needs zoomer companies
How if they don't even let them open bank accounts?
Its over

>> No.45996649

>>45995736
>Clover's Memory is all-age because Campfire is against 18+ works, so they will do a 18+ patch.
Writing something without porn in mind and then adding porn later is just as bad as writing something with porn in mind and then just deleting it.

>> No.45996654

>>45996423
i wish they were, but all of their games just rehash the same 00s eroge structure. also they are all way too long.

>> No.45996707

>>45995293
yeah, niijima really destroyed my girl there. although i guess that's where there's really an explanation to that prelim comment by hatsuyuki where he made mention that he felt there was something else possessing her. in retrospect, while admittedly a bad ending by more traditional standards, i still feel it was satisfying in the sense of showing how far aya's love and devotion could reach. i'm not going to say that the rest of the cast didn't really understand hatsuyuki's pain, but it really left me with a final feeling of: wow, the two of them really loved him to a point that could almost be considered obsessive. usually "obsessive" as such has a negative connotation, but in this case i feel like the love of the two is so pure and unconditional that it's a good thing

>> No.45996724

>>45994383
Spoilers can't ruin a good story and good stories will be great no matter how many times you reread them, but it is nice to get a fresh experience the first time. I also like "spoilery" OPs because they make no sense out of context but get my imagination going trying to figure out what happens (usually my guesses are wrong).

>> No.45996807

>>45996649
Why do you say the didn't have the H content in mind? They could have made it like a normal eroge but removing the H content for the normal release, as a facade of "all age game". Like normal eroge that get ported to console, except you happen to release the console version first.

>> No.45996838

>>45996478
If you hid the hakkenden post and replies like me, all the conversation about alcot is hidden as well kek

>> No.45996848
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>>45996539
>Eroge is also heading towards the Chinese
This, so much this. The Chinese have been producing kamige while we weren't aware of it...
With how vague the Chinese language is, adding MTL on top just makes it a super philosophical and thought provoking experience...
Subasisters... this will be the worthy successor to our kamige...

>> No.45996894

>>45996848
good review, picked up

>> No.45996917

>>45996848
Years of learning Japanese has amounted to NOTHING, should have learned Chinese instead!!

>> No.45996922

What distro do you guys run? Are there are that are particularly good for vinnies? I’ve been running Ubuntu on VM with Wine for particularly annoying older games that don’t work properly on Windows 10 because that’s what I use for work but I’ll be getting a new PC soon so I can use it as a dedicated box

>> No.45996926

I run windows with no issues
werks on my machine

>> No.45996943

>>45996654
they're too short actually

>> No.45996958

>>45996724
>Spoilers can't ruin a good story
Jeweha isn't a good story.

>> No.45996996

>>45996917
Nah, you just need to texthook the game and MTL it to Japanese and MTL the Japanese MTL to English, that's how you get the most mentally engaging experience, fellow philosopher-artist sister.

>> No.45997018

>>45996922
I run Arch.
I can't bother with Wine, I just have a Windows 7 VM in VirtualBox.
>>45996958
Then it's not worth reading in the first place even if you haven't been "spoiled".

>> No.45997025

>>45996922
It doesn't particularly matter as long as your distro isn't horribly outdated or something. I personally run an Arch fork.

>> No.45997051

>>45996996
you're supposed to MTL the English to Indonesian

>> No.45997083

>>45996848
>tfw read Subahibi in English before knowing Japanese and missed out on all the philosophy

>> No.45997090

>>45996922
It's gentoo for me, but arch would be good too.

>> No.45997100

>>45996922
W10 and whe something doesn't work i just boot up windows xp hoping it will work for real

>> No.45997120

all these fuckin' plebs who actually read subahibi and collapsed its meaning down to an observable state instead of leaving it in its true state of infinite potential
i call this the shroedinger's catbox reading method, it has enabled me to glean far greater wisdom from works i have never read than any of you readerlets could ever

>> No.45997121

>>45996848
>What at first disguises itself as a cutesy romance novel evolves to be absolutely horrifying. It asks questions about love, marriage, society, and freedom, as well as if such things even exist.
That is so deep! I am crying and literally having a philosophical crisis just by reading this review.

>> No.45997150

>>45996807
If H content isn't needed for the initial release then nobody is going to work on it because there are other deadlines to be met.

>> No.45997156
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>>45997083
Did you read the official translation? You are supposed to read MTL, even reading in Japanese does not give such a philosophical experience.

>> No.45997159

>>45997051
No Filipino, that's Japanese Spanish

>> No.45997160

>>45997121
pretty deep if true

>> No.45997175

>>45997120
Umisisters... this is so relatable, for real...
After reading MTLed Umineko twice, I came to the same conclusion...

>> No.45997189

>>45993097
Ha ha ha, what? A mobile phone that turned into a cute girl? That's so funny anon, I'm downloading your game right now...

>> No.45997207

>>45996848
Can someone actually read this and blogpost? I'm curious if it's actually good but don't want to touch Chingge.

>> No.45997221

>>45997156
Sadly yes, I did not know of the benefits of MTL yet. Is there a way for me to reexperience Subahibi in the way the author intended? The intention of the author is important to me, even though I proudly do not believe in truth, as Subahibi taught us.

>> No.45997229

Do you consume or read VN?

>> No.45997272

>>45997229
I consume McDonalds while reading my VN. You?

>> No.45997275

Nice eroge discussion

>> No.45997277

>>45997207
I was going to but it roesnt have a jp translation, only chinese and english

>> No.45997297

>>45997221
>>45997277
Just MTL them bro.

>> No.45997326

>>45997297
>mtl
no

>> No.45997349

>>45997326
you don't MTL official english translations back to Japanese?

>> No.45997361

>>45997326
>>45997156
See pic.

>> No.45997372

>>45997326
Chinese is the future and you can learn it through MTL. You don't care about your future?

>> No.45997377

If seriously though, each time i tried to mtl some chink sites it was always giving me complete gibberish, and not even chat gpt could handle it
Is chinese even translatable in theory?

>> No.45997383

>>45997377
the dark and terrible secret They don't want you to know is that chinese is factually incomprehensible
the chinese don't know it, everyone just makes noises at each other and pretends they understand

>> No.45997391

>>45997377
Heard it's grammatical similar to English and each wonton rune has one reading only compared to Japanese so it should be ez to MTL. They lied to me?

>> No.45997399
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45997399

During the past few months, I've dropped both 俺の姿が、透明に and 俺の瞳で丸裸. The character art, design, and voice acting were excellent, but the scenes felt lackluster. Are all Hulotte games like this? I can't believe they made games about spying on girls masturbating boring.
Then a 12 hours long power outage yesterday forced me to start playing 天使騒々 as my first Yuzusoft game, and it has been quite entertaining so far. Each character follows a predictable template, but their antics are still enjoyable. The main character suddenly experiencing ED? That was fun with Rudeus in 無職転生, and it's entertaining here too.
The last moege I had this much fun with was 青春フラジャイル, I think.

>> No.45997409

>>45997399
I'm playing it right now as well and the isekai stuff in the two routes I've played have been terrible.

>> No.45997410

>>45997399
that's on you bro, hulotte h-scenes are hot as fuck, their plots are definitely boring though, but thats not what you play their games for

>> No.45997421

>>45997391
At least with japanese there is kana that helps mtl to differentiate between the words, but how is it even supposed to tell apart the endless strokes of runes

>> No.45997434

>>45995273
Literally how lol

>> No.45997448

>>45997399
The common route is pretty cool but the heroine routes are trash by yuzu standards
Amane/Orie/Fumika are insanely hot and have the best routes. I love kaguya and kurumi but damn their routes sucked
>ED
The fact that this is a major theme in every single route really gets old

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>>45997399
I have the same general feeling about Hulotte, too. They introduce a great superpower or item or ability, then essentially fail to use it for anything interesting. Like, Atropos -- the 主人公 gets a watch that can stop time, right? Great. Except, he only uses it to perv on girls once in the common route, and even then the scene is only really there to introduce one of the watch's limitations, as well as give one of the heroines a reason to start interacting with the cast. Hell, even his imouto does what he won't when she steals the watch from time to time to sneak in on the 主人公 taking a shower! It feels like if they just let go of the 優しい主人公 stereotype and made him more interesting, the games would be better.
I do also agree with >>45997410 though in that the H-scenes are hot as fuck. I feel like if they tried less hard on the plots and made more nukige-adjacent titles they'd be way more successful.

>> No.45997463
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>>45997456
I liked her route because it had lots of spaghetti spilling. The rest was pretty lame

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>>45997456
i got about 10 minutes into moteyaba and hated every second of it
the mc was such a fucking charisma black hole that even the whole point of the setup fell flat
i just wanted some imouto love but the poor girl deserved better than a plank of wood as an onii-chan

>> No.45997506

>>45997456
What is the point of making a CG with the MC butt showing?

>> No.45997523

>>45997506
Women love that shit.
also when mc's balls are on-screen.
Chocochip asked if she could show the balls of her protags as much as possible.

>> No.45997528

>>45997506
If you want to do an angle in which the mcs butt utsushizaruwoenai
Worth it to depict the girl in the angle you want

>> No.45997529

>>45997506
It's the muv luv classic

>> No.45997541

>>45997506
They want the fujo audience. Same reason why the Metal Gear games were all closet borderline yaoi shit including Snake's butt shown on screen 24/7

>> No.45997763

>>45996387
Young people just make rpg maker games for DLsite instead.
Or get hired for Fanza porn gacha.

>> No.45997764

>>45997506
It's hot because it enhances the feeling of being naked in front of the girl

>> No.45997827

>>45995273
>>45995363
reading with a hooker running in the background so you can quickly copy and word you want is ok
looking at the hooker more than the actual game and scanning through every single line with yomichan is not ok

>> No.45997843

>>45997827
>looking at the hooker more than the actual game and scanning through every single line with yomichan
hehe... yeah, who would even do such a thing? Right?

>> No.45997876

>>45997827
using hookers is cheating on your heroine

>> No.45997886

>>45997876
using heroin on your hookers is a crime

>> No.45997919

>>45997876
This but reading more than 1 route

>> No.45998026
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45998026

Wtf cute

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45998145

>>45997189
You're in for a lot of fun comedy and some drama too.
It's a great game, even though it's a bit dated.

Its OP is quite good too: https://youtu.be/RlFz97V56dc

>> No.45998243

>>45995273
years dont matter. how many hours did you spend reading per day?

>> No.45998685
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45998685

>don't want to send the guy you like a picture of you and your bestie because she's too cute and he'll totally fall for her instead
>they're both the same person
hehe
this route has been better than expected, i am enjoying all the near miss moments

>> No.45998750

Girls need to step up their game before they get replaced by cute boys

>> No.45998831

>>45998750
nah leave the girls as they are, just replace the lame dude protagonists with a cute girl (male)
no more tragedies like >>45997506

>> No.45998877

>>45998750
Name one great moege with boy heroines(?)

>> No.45998907

>>45998877
Josou Jinja

>> No.45998919

>>45998877
https://vndb.org/v12798

>> No.45998936

>>45998919
>Rape by Others

>> No.45998939

>>45998685
As a straight man how do you read something like this? they literally drew a girl and called it a boy. It is for men who want to be a cute manga girl but still want to fuck girls?

>> No.45998944

>>45998907
I have that on my PC but never opened it also another josou by thebones that made gakuen, 帝国 something something I think
>>45998919
That looks cute
I keep wanting to try one but every time i end up starting another one with girls

>> No.45998965

>>45998936
>Completely Avoidable Rape
Apparently each character has a good, neutral and bad end routes

>> No.45999011

>>45994938
Looks like some 25 year old woman who put her old school uniform on because she can't accept that she's long past her expiration date.

>> No.45999031

>>45995020
Not into old hags, simple as that. I read eroge to enjoy young blossoming flowers, not wilted trees.

>> No.45999032

>>45998939
i don't particularly want to fuck the MC even if he is pretty cute
nor do i want to be a girl, but it is amusing to see him struggling against the various forces trying to girlify him
plus he's been way manlier in his actions than like 90% of the moege MCs i've seen

>> No.45999060

>>45999011
>long past her expiration date.
25 is the cut

>> No.45999071

>>45999060
15 is the cut.

>> No.45999094

>>45999071
It's 10 actually.

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>> No.45999106

>>45999094
>2 digit
Disgusting hags

>> No.45999116

>>45999060
Unifonically 17. I refuse to read heroine routes with heroines past that age. 25 is literally granny age.

>> No.45999215

>>45999116
how do you manage to read anything at all when all heroines are over the age of 18?

>> No.45999413

>>45999215
Not all eroge put that disclaimer

>> No.45999536
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45999536

>>45999413
And it's not necessary to believe that disclaimer even if it's there.

>> No.45999609

>>45999536
It's a doujin game so it's 90% just for trolling purposes since they are not required to put this disclaimer

>> No.45999691 [DELETED] 

>>45993273

You worthless faggot, actually learn something useful like Mandarin or Cantonese instead.
Even Cantonese: despite being one of the many Chinese languages, roughly 3 times as many speak it compared to Japanese. Not to mention, the weeb community is much bigger in China than in the west, so your favorite Jap games have already been translated into Mandarin most likely.
So not only will you have much more job opportunities (as opposed to being paid below minimum wage in Japan like the retarded foreigner you are; why else do you think they're pushing this whole "Japan loves foreigners"-bullshit?) but also play your pathetic little weeb games. Mandarin has a huge amount of ACG vocabulary from Japanese, shit like 的说. It has all the special vocab to represent your oh-so-beloved Japanese idiosyncrasies.

Not to mention, as a language, Japanese is a total clusterfuck. Unlike Vietnamese and Zhuang, who developed new characters coined on the same rebus principle as Mandarin character words, creating Chu Nom and Sawndip, Japanese, Koreans, and Ryukyuans resorted to clumsily trying to phonetically transcribe their native vocabulary with Chinese characters instead of mass creating new characters for their language. This went on until kana and hangul were effectively plagiarized and used for native words. Japanese and Korean words like Joseon, Silla were transcribed with Chinese characters based on phonetic transliteration.
It's like a bunch of retards got their hands on Chinese and didn't know what to do with it.

>> No.45999753 [DELETED] 

>>45999691
It's okay if you don't know Japanese I'm not judging you

>> No.45999761 [DELETED] 

>>45999691
>Reddit humor, the post.

>> No.45999774

>>45999536
>mentioning ages
This won't fly nowadays, even in doujin games.

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>>45999691
Fuck off Xi

>> No.45999836 [DELETED] 

>>45999691
I already know it though?

>> No.45999843

>>45999536
No ones believes it, is just something that is forced by some retarded law, everyone knows 1st year students are 15 and the 3rd one are 17.

>> No.45999860 [DELETED] 

>>45999691
Chinese people and their culture is all about rushing everything and ripping others off. They make awful conversation partners. I'm not looking forward to learning it for my job.

>> No.45999941

>>45999860
It's more about expedience in general than rushing specifically

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>>45999691
>Ryukyuans

>> No.46000294

I've heard Sakura no Uta is all about literature and RL references. I haven't read any literature in 20 years (since I was a schoolboy forced to read that shit) and I will surely not understand any references, not even basic ones because the only literature I know and care for are eroge.

Will I enjoy Sakura no Uta just as a moege and the h-scenes?

>> No.46000336

>>46000294
Do you realize that the majority of the japs never read any of that literature either?
Scaji is very good at conveying the meaning of all the literature references through the story

>> No.46000352

>>46000294
Sakura no Uta has an unprecendented level of depth both in moege and traditional literature. You will not be able to understand SCA-JI's vision on anything but the most rudimentary level if you don't truly get the references. At least read Wittgenstein if you want a fighting chance at enjoying his magnum opus.

>> No.46000373

>>46000294
>>46000336
This, you might even feel inspired to read what he's referencing afterward. I would recommend reading Subahibi first though since it's sort of a response to it.

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>>46000336
So much this. I read Scaji as my source on philosophy and in my life it has been going so well! I feel so valid. It is Scaji that helps me understand the world, literature, and trhe limit of our language.

-- One should study Scaji to understand literature; not literature to understand Scaji.
It's is a little quote I made.

>> No.46000388

>>46000373
So true. I read Cyrano afterwards and desired to travel to the moon.... I still do to this day. why are my dreams not real, if they are in my own world, and in the limit of my own world? This is something I think about when at an abandoned rooftop.

>> No.46000396

Threadly reminder that all posts about philosophy are bait. Do not reply; hide and ignore.

>> No.46000400
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I wonder if the scadi anons are victims left behind by this pic (aka moebutas/coomers dekinais)

>> No.46000403

For me, SCA-JI was my first foray into independent thought. I felt so intelligent completing Subahibi and trying to live like the characters. Live happily even became sort of a catchphrase for me.

>> No.46000409

>>46000396
>he didn't get the genius behind Scaji's philosophical view
You just proved his point of the limit of your understanding being the world and your language...

>> No.46000421

>>46000403
This, when I see a person in need or in deep trouble. I scream out Live happily to them, hoping it inspires them to see through their silly and pathetic whining and recognize that truly, Mon Panache.

>> No.46000425

>>46000400
Subasisters, we cannot let this stand.

>> No.46000440

>>46000425
Ah, my bad, you don't even understand the context behind that pic
Yeah, tourists

>> No.46000493

>>46000373
>This, you might even feel inspired to read what he's referencing afterward

I don't think so. I really only care about eroge, actually I only want to read Sakura no Uta for the cute heroines and hopefully at least decent romance and h-scenes. I don't care for anything else. Which is why I asked if I'll enjoy it for its moege elements, which is all I care for, really.

>> No.46000499

>>46000440
Subasisters, they are taking our space.

>> No.46000511

How are you guys not bored of this shitpost by now? Sometimes I wonder if these are literal bot posts.

>> No.46000516

>>45999774
>>45999843
there is no law, just sofurin being cringe
https://twitter.com/_kumaki_/status/1750016761611895254
https://twitter.com/_kumaki_/status/1753266553787965492

>> No.46000523

>>46000511
That schizo starts shitposting each time anyone brings up scaji to divert from the conversation, the sad part is that actually works

>> No.46000536

>>46000511
at this point it doesn't even bother me, just find it fascinating that someone can devote so many hours of their life to shitposting
well, everyone knows better than anyone how to use their short life

>> No.46000565

>>46000493
It's a massive story full of family drama and debates about art, you should be ready for a huge ride when you are going into it
Like literally why you won't just read any other charage if all you want is moe and romance?

>> No.46000607 [DELETED] 

>>46000511
i guess it also doesn't help that janny is a useless, incompetent piece of shit
suck my cock filthy useless slave

>> No.46000611

>>46000516
Doesn't matter if it's not possible to sell openly without sofurin approval, and even doujin game creators are self-censoring themselves anyway. The end result is still the same.

>> No.46000628

>>46000493
Some of the romance is good but the H-scenes aren't great. It's like they told the artists to make the tits bigger than they could manage to make look good so it just feels off. And like the other anon said, there's so much drama and other stuff to go through on the way. Some moege-only players seem to have enjoyed it though.

>> No.46000672

>>46000352
Hey fellow philosopher-artist sister, don't forget that you have to use MTL to force your mind to battle language and always be trying to understand Sca-ji's prose's true meaning. Reading in English or Japanese just makes your mind stagnate and accept everything at face value.

>> No.46000690 [DELETED] 

>>46000607
All you need to do is to start talking about virgins in eroge and they will insta delete half of the thread

>> No.46000707 [DELETED] 

>>46000607
Just say the N word and you will summon them.

>> No.46000764 [DELETED] 

>>46000707
NTR

>> No.46000773 [DELETED] 

Jannies, my dear dirty, cock hungry bitches. Don't you miss this veiny cock, you insatiable whores? You nasty niggers shit, if you won't do your job as jannies at least do your job as a plaything

>> No.46000827

>>46000764
Liking non-virgin heroines is the peak of niggerliciousness.

>> No.46000905 [DELETED] 

tfw janniggers are literal niggers because they don't work

>> No.46001391

I want to switch to Arch. Did anyone have trouble consuming VNs with it?

>> No.46001526

https://twitter.com/taiki_VA/status/1753538544780623945
Can anyone ask our guy Taiki to upload Clear rain...

>> No.46001540

>>46001526
Why don't you?

>> No.46001550

>>46001391
If you have to use Linux then use KVM with Windows, with GPU passthrough if necessary, and you won't have any problems with any games.

>> No.46001851

>>46001391
No problems on Ubuntu using plain WINE. Don't see why Arch wouldn't work.

>> No.46001944

>>46001550
I built a server using an old Dell Optiplex and I can remote into my Windows 10 from my main Linux PC

>> No.46001965 [DELETED] 

Why the fuck would you use Arch unless you if all you do is browse 4chan and jerk off to porn games? It's a fucking meme and you will probably use it for 2 months before you go crying back to Windows and pretending you use some random Linux distro for god knows what reason. People who actually use Arch for reasons other than to flex on other retards on the internet will also instantly know you're one of those retards

>> No.46001987 [DELETED] 

>>46001965
Arch is actually the just werks distro.

>> No.46001999 [DELETED] 

>>46001965
I will never use any of these meme systems but all I do is indeed browse 4chan and jerk off to porn games.

>> No.46002075 [DELETED] 

>>46001965
yeh i used arch linux for more than a year too and it was a great experience

>> No.46002112

so quof (one of /ourguys/) gave an oelvn 9.5 (same score as oretsuba and muramasa) and wrote a long review for it. did oelvns finally catch up with japanese vns?

>> No.46002119

no one respond to it

>> No.46002127

>>46002112
More or less yeah https://vndb.org/w8705

>> No.46002336

>>46001391
No, you'll just need more tinkering than usual.
Things are getting really good recently, Muramasa was a fucking pain in the ass to install, but last Proton makes it work almost ootb.
In case of problems go here:
https://www.visualnovelwiki.org/en/home
Their discord is the best for obscure vn linux troubleshooting.

>> No.46002676

>>46002112
I'm going to play it.

>> No.46002797

>>46002336
>Their discord
But what if I want to maintain my 4chan purity?

>> No.46002806

>>46002112
>LiL is a massive EVN inspired primarily by Subahibi and Key visual novels;
Subasisters, is this our new kamige?

>> No.46002810
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46002810

I'm just going to leave this here.

>> No.46002835

>it's le epic subversion! look! it's a vn! it knows it's a vn! funny meme epic png jpeg! look! funny! reference! haha, you thought i liked it?! it's sarcasm!
Why are western 害人 so obsessed with this? Why do they subvert and destroy everything in this world? Can't they stick to subverting their own garbage art?
まったく

>> No.46002837

>>46002112
>LiL is a massive EVN inspired primarily by Subahibi and Key visual novels; it is a fusion of the denpa genre with the slice of life dating sim genre
Japanese translation FUCKING WHEN

>> No.46002847

>>46002837
>he doesn't know
wwwwww
Eigo -> Nihongo
I'll leave it as a clue. The arrow means "apply the MTL transformation". You can apply it again into Eigo to get even more depth.

>> No.46002852

>>46002810
dont know what im looking at
do i want to know?

>> No.46002856

>>46002835
apparently there are some good chinese/korean/russian shit, but no western ones funny

>> No.46002861

>>46002856
I'd give those a try if they had JP TLs.

>> No.46002885

>>46002861
no, I am serious. apparently they are good because they are closer to a more traditional style of their countries and culture, quite the opposite of western works that desperately try to parody or approach japanese culture or reference japanese works. in short, the main difference is that in those countries people write stories that appeal to a specific audience, as opposed to western works that are created by weebs for weebs who don't know japanese

>> No.46002961

Imagine not knowing japanese in 2024 lol I'm glad I don't have the brains of a fucking nigger

>> No.46002983

>>46002885
>they are closer to a more traditional style of their countries and culture
>the main difference is that in those countries people write stories that appeal to a specific audience
Slide of Life in Marica when

>> No.46003087

Got myself new headphones. Sennheiser HD 599s, upgrade from previous HD 206s. Time to hear all the nuances in VA's acting.

>> No.46003203

ルパンイエロー is so cute damn

>> No.46003206

>>46002885
>they are good because they are closer to a more traditional style of their countries and culture, quite the opposite of western works that desperately try to parody or approach japanese culture or reference japanese works
Don't know about chinese/korean works, but the one and only Russian kamiVN is heavily influenced by japanese plotge and has western setting(2/3 of characters have anglo names)
https://vndb.org/v30804

>> No.46003238

>>46003206
That shit looks kami ngl

>> No.46003269

>>46003206
>48hr
Holy ruskige

>> No.46003275

>>46003206
More Russiange?

>> No.46003332

>>46003275
Many are not good, but if I had to pick another one that is really good, it's this one. It has English TL too.
https://vndb.org/v31126
It's not traditional VN though. No gameplay, but presentation and narration is different as you can see.

>> No.46003388

Time to become an ROP

>> No.46003399

>>46003087
>he doesn't listen on mono speakers to engage his imagination more
Anon....

>> No.46003567

>>46003388
fucking nigger learn english first this was embarrassing

>> No.46003945

>>46002127
>The reviewer is suspected to be engaged in covert advertisement
All English vns in one sentence lol

>> No.46004033

>>46003945
If I ever decide to make a kamiVN how do I make it untranslatable into English?

>> No.46004045

>>46004033
Make it about lolis with explicit age and plot being impossible to separate from that age.

>> No.46004057

>>46004033
Cunny and dialects. That was enough to make monbeno untranslatable

>> No.46004170

>The only thing I have to warn about is that the author has a sharp sense of cynicism which pervades the narration, resulting in the protagonist constantly criticizing almost everything he observes /or/ does himself. There's irony everywhere, which can actually be appealing, interesting, and quite funny, but by god, it is EVERYWHERE, so I hope you like it.
We're reaching levels of deep thought previously considered unimaginable.

>> No.46004184

Exactly. There are things in this world that are beyond comprehension. But what if I told you there was another one outside of it? An infinite amount of worlds. Each remarkably different from the next. And that some things are only impossible to comprehend because we're not meant to comprehend them. What if we're meant to be somewhere else? What if this world is just a mistake?

>> No.46004189

>>46004184
But what if there is? What if we can go somewhere else? What if someone has been somewhere else but everyone thinks they're crazy and no one believes them because the idea of another world layered on top of this one is absurd? It's insane. It's impossible... If we found it, would they believe us then? If we could replicate or emulate or simulate another world, would they believe us then? Or would we suffer in silence because it's all too incomprehensible? What happens if we find it? What happens if we go there? How do we get there?

>> No.46004223

I think I understand why the gaijin have no sincerity and hide under a pretence of irony. They realise their thoughts are shallow cringe, but they think they deserve to create 'art' and be an 'artist', so they laugh it off as "le memes" even thought it's a perfect representation of their mind and the thoughts they think about.
Reading EVNs is like a window into the mind of a ノンプレイヤーキャラクター。
Even the 'simplest' 萌えゲー they so often deride and satirise has _infinitely_ more value and depth.

>> No.46004254

>>46004189
>>46004184
Subasisters, I am crying... I am crying... This is so good...

>> No.46004283

>>46004223
It's simpler, english language is just so bland that irony and satire are the only things you can express through it effortlessly
You need to have an immense level of writing talent to be able to get something more out of it

>> No.46004328

>>46003945
bro, you're exposing yourself as a newfag who doesn't know about quof

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>>46004283
Satire does come easier to me in English than in my native language. I can't even imagine being hard capped by knowing only one modern language that is infected by TikTok and influencers. It's the same in the internet-influenced part of my own language. I can't even understand half of it. Pic related had some good ideas.

>> No.46004448

When I read in Japanese, I become Japanese and start hating everything that gaijin stand for. Is this normal?

>> No.46004455

>>46004369
My native language is very unsuitable for irony and sarcasm so i pretty much have a completely different personality when i talk in english because of how differently the way of expressing your thoughts is handled

>> No.46004616

>>46002127
>The game's length is 2.6 million words long
>BTW the word count increases by 50k-80k every month
>It won't be done for another 6 years at least from the time of writing this review
>There are fucking THIRTY-FIVE heroines in this game
Sometimes too much is too much.
Also judging by 50k-80k words being added every month, there is no time to do editing.

>> No.46004772

>>46001391
Just use VirtualBox, it's very easy. The autists will claim that it's less performant than QEMU, but you don't need much performance for slideshow games unless they're made in a bloated engine meant for realistic 3D games which comes with a cryptominer (Jewnity).

>> No.46004881

>>46004772
>not using QEMU with GPU passthrough for native performance

>> No.46004885 [DELETED] 

>>46001965
Arch is the only Linux distro that works without major problems (t. Arch stopped my hopping), and I need Linux because I don't like spyware.
Though if there was a way to remove the spyware in Windows 7/8/10 for sure, maybe I could consider using that?

>> No.46004942 [DELETED] 

>>46004885
If have a phone with a connection to the internet caring about windows spyware is a joke

>> No.46004988 [DELETED] 

>>46004942
>having one spyware means everything needs to be spyware
Anon…

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>>46002112
>>46002127
>>46004616
>not written in the most artistic language (日本語)
>literally unfinished
>DDLC-like subversionslop
>bloated script and heroine count (try to maintain a consistent quality ww)
>3dcg slop
>unnatural-sounding character names
>**黒鬼** heroine
>itch.io page full of "sexual abuse" virtue signaling and shady money laundering ko-fi page that claims to redirect money to "charity"
Yup yup, this will save the eroge industry for sure.

>> No.46005017

>>4600488
>>46004772
All of my cpu cores are mining almost 24/7 so nothing is left for passthrough. Only enough to browse 4chan and play slide show games.

>> No.46005030

>>46005012
wwwww
Or rather Kek’d heartily, as a translation for their kind.

>> No.46005039 [DELETED] 

>>46004988
Having phones is more dangerous than using windows nowadays, google literally saves a ton of info from your phone including logs from all the locations you have been and even sometimes set the phone to autorecord voice when no one is touching it, iirc there was even a way to mail google about it and send you all the info from your including the stealth voice recordings and they would give you a private link from google drive to download them

>> No.46005072 [DELETED] 

>>46005039
Dangerous, sure. But how does having a spyware device necessitate that there should be no island of enhanced freedom in some other device? Seems defeatist and illogical.

>> No.46005104

>>46005012
I think I couldn't make this up even to satirize this type of goyslop game. Even my lowest effort posts on this site are better art.

>> No.46005106

https://vndb.org/v17516

Opinions? Looking for a good romance in spring with slow build up, but given that most of it is written by Niijima Yuu I'm concerned, that guy can't write good romance if his life depended on it (hated his Summer Pockets routes and Hatsukoi Sakura was garbage in terms of romance). Is this one better?

>> No.46005115

>>46002336
>About our wiki engine
>We’re using wiki.js as our engine rather than the familiar MediaWiki (i.e. for Wikipedia and other fan wikis) as it’s a cleaner, more modern interface to contribute wiki guides, which is what we believe is best for accessibility.
Yeah, it's so accessible that I couldn't use it without disabling a gorillion JavaShits!

>> No.46005120

>>46005012
>unnatural sounding
Stop being racist to Kawasami Masuno chan!

>> No.46005122

>>46005106
Correction: I meant Hatsuyuki Sakura... My brain seems to actively forget that one.

>> No.46005125

>>46005106
Im pretty sure that's the eroge where one ending was so awful they were sending dead threats and emailing their broken discs to the devs, i never read it because of the shitstorm.

>> No.46005130 [DELETED] 

>>46005072
Nta but being so much autistic about privacy while at the same time still giving them literally all the information they need is what's truly illogical and makes no sense
Windows with disabled telemetry and shit is not even 1/100 of what your phone is capable of in terms of stealing your information

>> No.46005143

Dunno, bros. I trust quof. I've never played an OELVN but if he's praising it this much there has to be something to it.

>> No.46005189

>>46005106
isn't this the infamous cucked by music game?

>> No.46005201 [DELETED] 

>>46005130
>anon's location
>month 1, he's in his home
>month 2, he's in his home
>month 3, he's in his home

>>46005130
>windows not stealing information
no such thing, it's connected to the internet and is closed source. also they have root access to your computer. also with a phone you can install GrapheneOS and then the only thing phoning home would be the wifi and lte chip. either way the computer is more important and having an enclave of increased privacy is preferable to everything being spyware.

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>>46004885
I've been using Arch since 2009 and it only broken once when I did a partial upgrade like a retard but recently I got sick of updating all the time so I switched to Debian. My shit works. I don't need updates. The only thing I'm missing is the AUR

Also I just started reading pic related. Why is the remake 720p?

>> No.46005235

>>46005224
>Also I just started reading pic related
good, there's still time, uninstall it immediately and get the old version.

>> No.46005242

>>46005235
>uninstall it immediately and get the old version.
No

>> No.46005250

>>46005242
your loss, at least i tried to warn you

>> No.46005256

>>46005250
Ok, why is the old version better?

>> No.46005268 [DELETED] 

>>46004881
You don't need "native performance" for slideshows, maybe unless they use a bloated cryptominer 3D game engine (Jewnity).
>>46004942
>>46005039
I do use a dumbphone, though. And even then, if you have a smartphone and use it just for very bland shit like discussing about work on WhatsApp or scrolling through 4chan or reading manga, then it's not too bad.

>> No.46005432

>>46005189

Explain

>> No.46005512

>>46005432
I didn't play it but unless I'm confusing it with another game in one of the routes the heroine breaks up with you to focus on her music studies or something like that

>> No.46005593

>>46003399
I live with my parents, so I would have to put the volume super low unless I wanted them to hear loli moans and whatnot.

>> No.46005665 [SPOILER] 
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>>46005432
collage spoiler

>> No.46005690

>>46005665
What did our guy Niijima mean by this?

>> No.46005744

>>46005665
Question: can I any of this by simply ignoring the true end route? In other words: does this girl's normal ending have a romantic ending?

>> No.46005754

>>46005744
Correction: I meant "can i avoid anynof this"

>> No.46005758

>>46002112
>>46002127
looks like quof's review caught mrkew's (another one of /ourguys/) attention. this game might be joining the kamige canon soon.

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>>46005690
All good things are ephemeral so enjoy them while they last

>> No.46005817

That's so fucking retarded, I would even prefer normal NTR than music study NTR.

>> No.46005896

>>46005817
just play a plotge then

>> No.46005934

>>46005106
Sena is perfect and so is her route/after story. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>> No.46005937

>>46005143
Play it and tell us how it goes.

>> No.46006022

>>46005934
Been already spoiled. I don't think anything in the story could make me like her now. Anyway, feels like a waste of time to even donher routes now if it ends like this.

>> No.46006270

>>46005758
Can you refresh my brain (which is wider than the sky) on what other canon kamige are there, MTLsister?
Subahibi is a given, but I assume Sca-zi's other masterpieces such as Sakura no Uta and Tsui no Sora should be too, right? Are Umineko, DDLC, and Rong Xue too?

>> No.46006314

>>46006270
What did you like most about sakura no uta sister?

>> No.46006443

>>46006314
Sorry I only played the official English translation, so I didn't get Sca-zi's intentions to the full extent. But I am now reading it MTLed to truly understand what it is about. I am also now reading Nietzsche and Freud MTLed to Japanese back to English to understand Sca-zi overall themes more deeply too.

>> No.46006476

>>46006443
Ok, what did you like most about subahibi sister?

>> No.46006495 [DELETED] 

>>46005130
you're not giving them the information about what you do on your pc, which could be a lot

>> No.46006597

>>46006476
Its themes are still too deep to comprehend for me, but I think it's very beautiful how it says that truth essentially doesn't exist and that you should live happily. It reminds me of Umineko in a way, but Umineko didn't have cute femboy sucking dicks, so it couldn't deliver its message as memorably.

>> No.46006618

>>46006597
The meme would be funny if you actually read the shit eopbro :(

>> No.46006886 [DELETED] 

>>46005039
Jokes on you. My phone runs GNU/Linux. Yes I'm aware the three letter agencies could triangulate me if they wanted to, but what can you do

>> No.46006929 [DELETED] 

>>46005039
this shit is extremely off topic, but there is that experiment where if you say you want something out loud near your phone, you start getting ads on google, youtube, etc related to that. It's happened to me on a lot of occasions (and no, I didn't google any shit)

>> No.46007109

>>46006597
>Umineko didn't have cute femboy sucking dicks
that's where you're wrong, bucko

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>>46005817
Musicians are terrible people, only dogfuckers who have enough mental gymnastics to sympathise with those wretched beings.

>> No.46007241

>>46005665
>>46005512
I've heard of getting cucked by loyalty towards a job/position involving risking ones life daily to save the world but this is something else

>> No.46007289

>>46007234
>>46005512
Musician: must practice 8 hours a day abandons you
Composer: uses relationship and stuff with you to farm 'life experience' and 'omoide' as inspiration fodder

>> No.46007294

>>46005512
she does this three times across 10 years btw

>> No.46007314

>>46006597
Umineko is about knowing the truth and the meaning behind it, subahibi is about ignoring it.

>> No.46007339

>>46007109
https://sorel.substack.com/p/suicide-of-the-golden-troon

>> No.46008071

>>45994471
Yoruboku

>> No.46008744

>>45994471
Geminism

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Once shitaboku got out of the endless quagmire of "it's a misunderstanding!!" it's not half-bad.

>> No.46010914

>>46010889
what is going on with that chicken in the bottom right

>> No.46010928

>>46010914
What?

>> No.46011004

>>46010928
what is that thing
did they put wrapping paper around the feet or something
why does it have a polished and glistening ass

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>>46011004
It's supposed to be a turkey, I think, with those weird turkey booties

>> No.46011027

>>46011016
i can't say i have ever seen those turkey booties before
i'd ask what they're for but i'm assuming purely ceremonial
you learn something new every day, i suppose

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I've been playing this vn for a few hours, and I still can't decide if I like it or not. The futuristic setting and world-building are nice, but the cast lacks personality, and every conversation they have feels so fucking rigid for some reason. Still, I think I'm going to at least finish one route before I decide whether I want to drop it or not.

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>>46011213
I'd recommend Fluorite's route, it does a very good job with the whole "alien mindset of a self-aware android" thing.

>> No.46011346

We are back
https://youtu.be/pKGwBtYN9G8?si=lrHFXLkM2w4WRorI&t=13

>> No.46011430

(shitaboku kiyoka route cg spoiler)
where the hell was she hiding this?
https://files.catbox.moe/ynwllz.jpg

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>>46011239
>I'd recommend Fluorite's route
Yeah, I was also thinking of doing her route first. Aside from maybe the sister, the other girls have been completely forgettable so far.

>> No.46011582

Is Mochiri Amu a complete newbie seiyuu or has she done other stuff besides eroge? Her performance is really good.

>> No.46011602

>>46011582
She takes small jobs like voicing 3D animations for a fantia
https://a.cockfile.com/DfRNQj.mp4
https://fantia.jp/posts/2311853

>> No.46011913

>>46011582
>hag voice

>> No.46011918

>>46011239
seconding flourite, she's the best teach-the-robot-how-to-love route i've ever seen
the caveat is she'll ruin you forever for other fake robot girls
also i felt like the h scenes were totally out of character for both her and the MC

>> No.46012860

>>46011430
It seems I need to play this now. I love it when girls do this.
But I wonder where she would hide that too, especially as this looks like a public place.

>> No.46012952

Some subhuman said about Nukitashi:

"The game literally has a transgender heroine and ends with a pro transgender speech"

Is that true? I haven't read it yet, but that would be a huge reason not to.

>> No.46012999

>>46012952
we already talked about this years ago, newfag eop subhuman

>> No.46013010

>>46010889
>>46011016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wByuTA-4jk

>> No.46013018

>>46012999
Who said I'm EOP? I'm just not interested in the series which is why I didn't read it.

>> No.46013078

>>46012952
That is so valid! It's like in Subahibi!

>> No.46013233

>>45994148
Problem is the old hag looking heroines. When it comes to old hag designs tone work's is my absolute limit.

>> No.46013247

>>46012952
>>46013018
>Who said I'm EOP?
Sure not, eopbro? >>46010262

>> No.46013267

>>46013247
Am I suddenly not allowed to visit certain threads just because I'm no EOP? I simply enjoy raising hate against localizer subhumans everywhere I can.

>> No.46013276

>>46013267
I don't understand, why do you care so much about them?

>> No.46013286

>>46013018
if you were not a newfaggot eop you would already know about that since it was shitposted to death.

>> No.46013297

>>46013276
Because he depends on them to read VNs

>> No.46013313

>>46013233
>tone work's
You mean the actual adults and not the heroines with routes right?

>> No.46013342

>>46013297
I guess there's no other reason. I haven't touched anything translated in like.... 8 years? so I would find that obsession odd from someone who actually knows japanese

>> No.46013458

>>46013267
Mondblut? Thought you're retarded mtlwhore?

>> No.46013516

>>46013313
No, the heroines also look too old. Aside the more loli like ones like Runa or Sora.

>> No.46013572

>>46013276
I have my own reasons. Let's just say I don't want VNs to become mainstream in the west under these woke localizer's reimagination intended to twist Japanese into a vessel to spread wokeness in the otaku subculture in the west. I hate on localizers with the intention to create antoxic and hate filled environment which repells woke subhumans to feel at home. In other words: gatekeeping!

>> No.46013589

>>46013572
Kys pedoblut fuckin mtlscum

>> No.46013595

>>46013572
You are based. Truly. o7

>> No.46013707

>>46013572
Eroge is already getting killed by japan itself >>45890022, no need for such things when the end result will be the same

>> No.46013715

>>46013707
Death is preferable to subversion.

>> No.46013737

翻訳ソフト使わないとゲームすら満足にできないやつの口からgatekeepingとかどんなコントだよ笑
まずお前自身がその門とやらを一生潜り抜けないことぐらい察しろよ知恵遅れくん

>> No.46013759

>>46013737
I understood most words here and let my imagination run wild on the rest.

>> No.46013813

Okay I don't understand this about ending of imokano. How is tearing them apart supposed to in any way prevent their suicide? You think MC won't hang himself when Haruka gets married to a random dude in 5 years? Please. If I had to guess and answer my own question, Mitsuki just needs time to forget about them.

>> No.46013828

>>46012952
In the modern world, what we need to keep the eroge industry alive is a more inclusive society who does not discriminate based on sexual preference. To truly appreciate Nukitashi, you need to understand the background behind the current state of the scene when it was released. As you might or might know, the eroge scene has been on a slow decline since around 2010's with the number of kamige's decreasing per year past 2010. The old giants supporting the industry were slowly leaving the scene one by one. While the number of scenario games was slowly decreasing, the number of nukiges was actually increasing. This is where we start in Nukitashi as well with the whole concept of a Nukige-like island. Now comes, Qruppo, with a love letter to the eroge creators and eroge fans to keep supporting the industry. That the scenario-based eroge industry offers something wonderful that no other medium can copy, so we should not let the industry die. The name of that love letter is Nukitashi and later on Hentai Prison. After the release of Nukitashi, we start seeing signs of revitalization of the industry with a lot of creators putting more effort into releasing their games. After five years now, we can definitely feel the effects of Qruppo on the industry as the number of kamige's getting released is getting close to what it was in its peak. It's still far from a complete revival though as we need more new blood in the scene.

The first game showed us how creating a paradise for people is the same as creating a living hell for others. The sequel, Nukitashi 2, shows us the point of view of the SS members, the antagonists in the first game, and how they ended up in their positions. It shows different people’s view on sex through different characters, and how that caused discrimination and conflict among them. That conflict could easily have been avoided through tolerance of the other person’s views. Similar to its prequel, Nukitashi 2 is a story of tolerance of the minority, and tolerance on other people’s sexual fetish. People just need to be allowed to search for someone else who can understand them without fearing for their safety. That is all that is needed to give the minority a place to belong to.

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46013851

>>46013018
you did, nigga

>> No.46013861

>>46013813
This is literally explained in the last scene. If kei kills himself, both mitsuki and haruka kill themselves too. The same thing happens in all cases. When they split up, they put a curse on each other. None of them will have a new lover in their whole life either

>> No.46013876

>>46013851
Dunno who's a bigger subhuman, the localizers or him. He's so butthurt about some shitty localization changes that he instead turns to fucking AI shit instead of learning Japanese like a normal person.

>> No.46013897
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46013897

I'm not an EOP
I read jp VNs

>> No.46013903

>>46013861
>None of them will have a new lover in their whole life either
Nowhere does it say this and I highly doubt that would even be possible for Mitsuki. Her nympho persona is hopping on dick in a week. Haruka is the kind of person who would eventually cave in to pressure from her parents to find a husband. And MC will not survive this. I don't know why or Mitsuki or anyone would think that spending the rest of your life without your loved one and at the same time sentencing your loved one to do the same is preferable to death. Either way, Mitsuki has no power over MC in a few years.

>> No.46013923

>>46013828
Get the fuck out with that gaslighting woke porpagnda copy pasta. Tolerance lead for the western entertainment to let the woke infestation grow to the point that it became the oppressor. Look at the subhuman trash that the comic industry turned into! That's why we need total intolerance, to weed out the woke infestation from among our midst, from our subculture. Before it's too late. And if eroge die anyway, so they deserve to die. It's better to let a crippled dog be put to death than having it live on in dishonor, twisted into something else.

>> No.46013926

>>46013897
What is this? Some type of clout farming machine? You stream JP but have Eigo on second screen?

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46013949

>Who said I'm EOP?

>> No.46013979

>>46013903
They have already experienced the peak of true love, after that there is no turning back. What Mitsuki could not do was fall in love, because that was what led to her mother's destruction. The 3 characters are portrayed throughout the story as extremely pure when it comes to their perception of love. Even mitsuki, being totally broken mentally and emotionally, began to feel disgust when she started to be touched only out of lust. That's why she was so desperate for the orgasm in that hotel scene, that was her last chance to embrace the madness and destroy the love she discovered. In haruka's case there is no way she would do that after everything she experienced. I recommend you reread that scene again, because there are several things you apparently left out, especially regarding 恋/愛

>> No.46014052

>>46013979
Oh I didn't. I just don't agree with the distinction she tried to make between selfish and selfless love. Every type of love has a bit of both.

>> No.46014501

>>46011430
picked up

>> No.46014565

https://vndb.org/t21564.10

So Clover Memory's will be all ages garbage.Not gonna buy that shit. Hope they fail their crowdfunding.

>> No.46014601

>>46014565
>KEVINNGW808
lol

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>>46014565
Don't you ever get tired of posting here you obnoxious EOP faggot?

>> No.46014721

>>46014565
Fuck off subhuman mtling piece of pedophile https://vndb.org/t21564.12

>> No.46014728

New thread:

>>46014727
>>46014727
>>46014727

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