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Mangaka Defend the Loli. Anonymous Mon Mar 15 07:55:53 2010 No.4640050 [Reply] [Original]

Copied from the thread on /a/:

>According to Sankei news, Chiba Tetsuya and Satonaka Machiko held a press conference to declare opposition to a local ordinance regulating "fictitious juveniles". Numbers of famous mangaka made objection to the regulation that it will severely violate the freedom of expression.

>The regulation was proposed by Tokyo metropolitan government and it intends to restrict the minor characters appearing in manga, anime, movies, and games. Even if the characters are described as adults in the story, Tokyo will judge whether the characters are considered to be minors based on the appearance, backgrounds, and voices. Those characters are defined as "fictitious juveniles" and Tokyo will restrict the sales of the media if it contains sexual expressions of "fictitious juveniles". Mangaka and their supporters are apprehensive that the interpretation of "sexual expressions" can be expanded limitlessly.

>List of opposing mangaka can be viewed here: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=167631

>And yes, Akamatsu Ken is one of them so pic related.

Now I know this isn't strictly /jp/ related, but it'd presumably have a major impact on the Doujin market. How does /jp/ feel about this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 07:56:53 2010 No.4640051 It won't fucking pass, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 07:57:53 2010 No.4640052 Get out, MAL devs.

>>	Some Guy Mon Mar 15 07:57:53 2010 No.4640053 My feelings on the subject are thusly: 1. This is an affront to freedom of speech and is despicable 2. This means less Touhou doujins, something that affects me personally 3. However, this DOES mean more shapely women in porns, so its not all bad

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:01:53 2010 No.4640060

>>4640051
Well no shit, we came to that conclusion when this first came up, but isn't it a little worrying that this sort of thing can happen in the country of origin? By Evangelical Christians, of all people? The fact they have enough influence to do this in the first place is pretty troubling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:02:53 2010 No.4640064 >>4640053 No, actually, it means less shapely women and more caricatures with tertiary sex characteristics oversized to absurd levels.

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:04:53 2010 No.4640069

>3. However, this DOES mean more shapely women in porns, so its not all bad
The trouble is, it doesn't extend to just loli. Busty schoolgirls, underdeveloped adult women, hell, if they have a childish voice it could be considered 'unacceptable'. Sure there'll be more busty adult women doujinshi, but is it worth the price?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:05:53 2010 No.4640073 Attempt number 5739, nothing will fucking happen. This comes up constantly.

>>	Some Guy Mon Mar 15 08:06:53 2010 No.4640077 >>4640064 >>4640069 I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation ;_; I seriously doubt this will pass, though. I mean, haven't they tried doing this before?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:07:53 2010 No.4640080 fucking commonwealth scum Good thing this shit will never get passed. I wish I could move out of this shithole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:08:53 2010 No.4640084 >>4640077 >haven't they tried doing this before? More times then can be counted.

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:11:53 2010 No.4640088

>and it intends to restrict the minor characters appearing in manga, anime, movies, and games.
It's not just loli characters. It's also for about 90% characters in mangas/animes. You aren't gonna tell me those girls aren't usually in FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:12:53 2010 No.4640091 You know people have too few real problems in their hands when they get deeply concerned of the rights of imaginary people.

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:12:53 2010 No.4640093

I'd be satisfied if they cut with the lolis' age bullshit.
Am I expected to believe a toddler which has the proportions of a man is in fact 16-18 years old ?
I know japanese women are short but this is riduculous, and the more I age the more I find hard to deal with that crap.
If you want to fish into the lolicons' pool then do a fucking lolicon manga/anime, stop putting them everywhere it is unsettling and disturbing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:14:53 2010 No.4640098 ITT: OMG SOMEONE THINK OF THE FICTIONAL LOLIS

>>	Official /g/ implier !btr76hqMa6 Mon Mar 15 08:15:53 2010 No.4640100 >>4640084 Bet you never counted times it passed. hint google "5 頭身規制"

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:20:53 2010 No.4640113
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>>4640093
18 years old

but seriously, you know there are women in real life who are like 4'9 and flat and young faced, while not being midgets or anything. Should they be barred from having a sex life?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:22:53 2010 No.4640117 >>4640113 In a perfect society, they'd be subject to genocide.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:23:53 2010 No.4640119 If a fictional character has some rights and legal status apply, a fictional character has ALL rights and legal status apply. The need to draw arbitrary lines just shows how weak the position is.

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:25:53 2010 No.4640124

>>4640113
My sister, she's totally flat, I've seen it myself... it was an accident before you start fapping... but she still looks and acts like a woman and has an average height, your average loli looks like her devevolpment stopped at 12 years old and acts like a 12 years old, hell she IS 12 years but the whole setting forces her to be 4-6 years older.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:27:53 2010 No.4640127 >>4640119 If fictional characters have rights, then we should be allowed to marry them

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:29:53 2010 No.4640130 >>4640127 since when are you not allowed to marry them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:29:53 2010 No.4640131 >>4640127 If they agree to it, yes. How that would work, I'm not sure, but then I'm not sure why fictional characters would have rights in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:37:53 2010 No.4640145 >>4640093 No they want to ban sexualization of underage characters. Yes that means if the girl looks 17 you aren't allowed to see any nudity either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:39:53 2010 No.4640152 Anime will just become about body paint, maebari, and innuendo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:42:53 2010 No.4640160 >>4640127 >If fictional characters have rights, then we should be allowed to marry them If fictional characters have rights, they should be allowed to vote as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:47:53 2010 No.4640172 >>4640160 I wonder how many will show up on polling day? Oh wait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:48:53 2010 No.4640174 >>4640160 >>4640172 Bitches don't know bout my forged votes

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 08:50:53 2010 No.4640181 >>4640172 In abstinence of showing up, their creators may vote in their place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 09:17:53 2010 No.4640246 >/a/ stopped reading here

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 12:41:53 2010 No.4641030
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>>4640093
>Am I expected to believe a toddler which has the proportions of a man is in fact 16-18 years old ?

But what about three year olds that look like adults? They'll be banned.

>>	Derek Mon Mar 15 13:31:53 2010 No.4641263 >Copied from thread on /a/: >http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=167631 VIRUSES VIRUSES ALERT! ):

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 13:59:53 2010 No.4641379 >>4640100 I don't need to google it because you're a fucking moron. Hint: Maybe you should read your own shit. That has nothing to do with government or law but is Sofurin shit.

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:21:34 2010 No.4641480 [DELETED]

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okay, i saw this on the front page of 4chan and had to comment. i admit i watch very little anime but what kind of faggots needs to have overly sexualised pre-teens in thier anime? fuck, this is why most people think anime is just a bunch of nerdy shit pandering to perverts. i dont see why japan has this fascination with putting 12 year olds in miniskirts, that shit wouldnt fly in other countries and its creepy as shit.

but what do i know, im a baka gaijin LOLOLOLO

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:28:53 2010 No.4641509 Whatever happened to those eroge laws from like August~?

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Mar 15 14:30:53 2010 No.4641523 This penalizes thoughts. It's a mind crime, i.e. a law that seeks to define how someone can think by criminalizing aberrant thoughts. It won't pass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:33:53 2010 No.4641541 >>4641509 Not fucking laws, never were laws. That was review board drama, nothing to do with the law.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:34:53 2010 No.4641544 >>4641523 Thought police confirmed for 2012.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:36:53 2010 No.4641558 File: 50 KB, 640x480, 4_ED01.mpg_snapshot_01.25_[2010.03.15_03.37.07].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] See this? Enjoy your jail

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:37:53 2010 No.4641563 >>4641558 you wish.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:28:53 2010 No.4641824 >>4640113 They must be jailed in Australia. Actually, all female children period are jailed in Australia now. There are just men and big breasted women in regular society there now.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Mar 15 15:35:53 2010 No.4641868 If fictional characters have rights, then they should receive welfare checks, too. I will sue to demand my favorite fictional characters receive their due money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:48:53 2010 No.4641952 ITT everyone saying nothing will happen forgets this is the nation that banned pubic hair depicted in any media and still enforces pixel/bar censoring in pornographic material.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:51:53 2010 No.4641974 >>4641868 I think you just saved Japan's dying artist industry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 16:02:53 2010 No.4642023 File: 30 KB, 357x461, 1246325912900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4641868 This means characters under the age of 18 will need legal guardians to represent them. I am now Illya's legal guardian.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 18:14:53 2010 No.4642835 >>4642023 She is 18 and she ages to 19 and dies ;_;

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Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:15:53 2010 No.4643916

>This penalizes thoughts. It's a mind crime, i.e. a law that seeks to define how someone can think by criminalizing aberrant thoughts. It won't pass.

Why wouldn't it pass though? Remember that we are talking about the country that STILL are censoring genitals when no other country does so. Obviously the country is filled with people too worried about appearance to care for their own countrymen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:18:53 2010 No.4643943 >>4641952 Y'know, I bet that the absence of sexualized pubic hair is what contributed to this fiasco over EVERYONE LOVES LOLI. Just saying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:24:53 2010 No.4643999 >>4642023 wasnt she year older then rin and shirou?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:30:53 2010 No.4644070 >>4643999 yep, Rin and Shirou weren't seniors at that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:51:53 2010 No.4644246 >>4640113 according to Australia...yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:52:53 2010 No.4644260 it'll never pass. it would be incredibly hilarious if it did though. we'll find out at the end of march right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 21:47:53 2010 No.4644661 >>4643916 I think saying they censor genitals is pushing it a bit. They put a thin darkened bar over them because that's what they have to do, not because they feel some great embarrassment in showing them.

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