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What is this?

/jp/ has started on a project to translate the visual novel Hatsukoi, one of the highest rated according to the Japanese.

Are you in need of translators?

Of course! Anyone with knowledge of Japanese (and English) is welcome to join in and start translating with the simple and easy-to-use REtrans™ Web Interface now with Accelerated AJAX Technology.

Are you in need of editors?

Definitely. You don't even need to know Japanese to help improve the English text, so your participation is encouraged.

What is the length/progress/ETA?

The total length of the content is approximately 32k lines. We are at approximately 65.6%.

Translator interface
http://rechan.eu.org/go/retrans-hatsukoi
Translator interface (AJAX, if you use Firefox)
http://rechan.eu.org/go/retrans-hatsukoi-ajax

Old threads
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4939167
(Just follow the linked list from there, I'm not going to put the whole thread history here.)

Official site
http://products.rune.jp/catalogue/r011hatsukoi/

Game
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2CGBVJMX

Lite Version
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D7VB4HFS

Hacked exe for Lite Version and Normal Version
http://rapidshare.com/files/274090860/_hatsukoi.exe

Text width fixes
http://rapidshare.com/files/356619201/hatsukoi-font-width-test-1.7z

Pre-Alpha Release (~40%)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ujzowqnzyde

>> No.5004759

Here it is.

>> No.5004779

Why would I help if I'm not getting paid?

>> No.5004821

>>5004779
Maybe you like having Cudder abuse you?

>> No.5004825

>>5004821
Oh, Lennar.

>> No.5004848

>65.6%
FUCK YEAH 1/3 TO GO!!

>> No.5004870

>>5004848
And only 95% editing to go!

>> No.5005267

Still waiting for hatesex.

>> No.5005490

>>5004870
Anzu was finished editing. So we have less than that.

>> No.5005537

>>5005490
Hahahahahaha!

Pull the other one, it has bells on it.

Seriously, in just a quick glance over the first ten actual lines of Anzu, I saw two lines missing punctuation, two missing commas, one completely misplaced comma, and one misspelled word. You're averaging about .5 errors per line.

>> No.5005555
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>>5005537
Then fix it, fucktard.

>> No.5005579

>>5005555
No thanks. I just enjoy reminding you how bad the work on this project really is so that people appreciate the other translators and editors who actually put in the effort.

>> No.5005616

>>5005537
You forgot that the kouhai/sempai line is still translated wrong too.

>> No.5005685

>>5005579
However I don't think you know your ass from your hands let alone anything about translation or editing.

>> No.5005699

>>5005685
You're missing two commas, champ.

>> No.5005753

I see the trolls are out in full force again.

>> No.5005764

I thoguht you left hatsukoi and picked another game, cudder?

>> No.5005769

Lennar x Cudder ero-ero where?

>> No.5005771

>>5005764
He's willing to help out multiple games if there's enough interest to generate translators.

>> No.5005905

>>5005537
dear god comma nazi. Nobody ever used commas correctly ever, except grade school english teachers.

>> No.5006042

>>5005905
Way to Godwin yourself.

>> No.5006062

>>5005905
You heard it here first. Grade schoolers are better editors than the Hatsukoi crowd.

>> No.5006252

>>5005771
>implying you can generate translators from interest
lol wat

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>>5004825
Um, that's not me. I've been busy with school, club activities (recently joined the keion-bu I'm totally serious and it's really strict) so I haven't had much time to post.

Why is someone nagging about comma mistakes?

>>5005537
I checked the first ten lines and found the spelling mistake and one comma mistake.

In all honesty (not trying to be hateful or say you're trolling or anything) if you want to be taken seriously at all could you at least tell us where the mistakes are you find? Even if you don't correct them yourself if you could at least tell us it would help better the problem and is more productive than simply saying "YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND YOU SUCK" incessantly.

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5006483

>We are at approximately 65.6%.

Ganbatte, Hatsukoi devs.

>> No.5006526

You guys are awesome keep it up.

>> No.5006548

>>5006417
It's just that guy who trolls these threads 24/7. Ignore him.

>> No.5006620 [DELETED] 

>>5006417
Just because you asked nice and made half an effort.

>From now on Sakurai-senpai
Prepositional phrase. Needs a comma.

>awake」",
>Anzu」",
Missing punctuation

>chan! It's
Extra space

>It's just you have
>so nice I feel
Run-on sentences. Put "that" between them, use a comma splice, or rewrite them.

But seriously, that's why I have no interest in going through the whole thing, and that's not even including the technically correct but incredibly awkward or poor phrases. An English teacher would weep blood trying to edit it, and that's just the first 12 lines... plus what you already fixed.

>> No.5006631

>>5006548
Sup, Cudder.

>> No.5006969

>>5005555
>>5005555
THIS, x1024

It's an open project --- you see something that needs improvement, you DO IT YOURSELF. Quit the apathetic bitching and be a little more activist.

>>5006620
No one's telling you to go through the whole thing. You see something wrong, you fix it and that's all there is to it.

>> No.5006987

>>5006969
Are you trying to be as much of an asshole as lolita or something?

>> No.5007021

>>5006987
>blaming someone else for your own lack of initiative
0/10

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>>5006620
Thank you so much for your help.

When translating things a lot of people (including myself) tend to write awkwardly because we're trying to match it to the Japanese sentence. Some of the comma errors may also be because some of the translators were trying to match the punctuation to the original for every single thing.

I understand that the script seems very rough and difficult to edit but any contributions possible (even if you don't edit it on the actual site and just point out something you find here) are greatly appreciated.

Once again, thank you very much for taking the time to post the corrections to the script!

>> No.5007304

>some of the translators were trying to match the punctuation to the original for every single thing
Clearly, one extreme would be to just replace every single word with its English equivalent, and the other, to convert even the cultural artifacts to western ones. The original decision was to leave the Japanese punctuation in, so that might have something to do with it. I'll make a poll on which direction we should take, and TLwiki will be a good place to put the results. You're the head translator, so I think you should give some opinion on this.

Whatever happens, keep it consistent. The first page of COMMON currently has a mix of Japanese and English punctuation.

>> No.5007353 [DELETED] 

>>5007304
I was stating that we should keep it consistent from the beginning, but lolita said that any inconsistencies would be fixed in the end. （´ω｀）

Anyways, my personal opinion is that all 、！？。 should be replaced with ,!?.
However, 「」 and ～ look better in Japanese I think.

In the end though, this is only my personal opinion, so if anyone thinks differently please post your thoughts!

>> No.5007531

>>5007353
The end is approaching, so now would be the time.

Here is the survey. It will be available for 10 days:
http://216.237.122.18/rendersurvey.asp?sid=qnsoa53kengaaaz751276

I've included all the possible choices so it should be easy to figure out what the readers want.

>> No.5007561

>>5007531
Done.

>> No.5007631 [DELETED] 

>>5007531
We on the TLWiki projects generally use all English punctuation and accepted grammar conventions except for the tilde, whose usage is determined by its vertical position on the font. All stuff in the gray area, including phonetical commas, is up to the translator and editor.

As an example, I would change ！？。 to simply !? because the period is extraneous and I've never seen such a construction before.

>> No.5007692

>>5007531
I pressed the button at the bottom and it sent me to some page about making your own surveys. So did it submit or not?

>> No.5007902

I tried to vote too but I'm not sure if the survey submitted for me.

Like Lennar said, I think you guys should replace everything with English punctuation except for the tildes. There should be some program that could mass replace all of them so you don't have to do it manually.

>> No.5010918

>>5007692
>>5007902
Yes. I can see the results already.

>> No.5011522 [DELETED] 

Up!

>> No.5011589

>>5006417
>activities (recently joined the keion-bu I'm totally serious and it's really strict) so I haven't had much time to post.
Do you think people here care about your life? No. Take this blog shit elsewhere you colossal faggot.

>> No.5011603

>>5010918
Hasn't this poll already happened, months back? You just want the results that means no work for you, right? You're a faggot, Cudder

>> No.5011607

>>5011589
You mean you don't ship Cudder x Lennar?
Get out of /jp/.

>> No.5012128

>>5011589
>>5011603
0/10

>> No.5012672

>>5011589
Oh snap I got insulted... on the internet!!!

lol serious business

>> No.5012692 [DELETED] 

>>5004575
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>> No.5012710 [DELETED] 

f|gh+ th€ inTERñe+ cEn$0r5HÍP HTtP,// àt . k|MMÒà , 5e / fiGhT tH3 IñT3rñEt [EnSÓr5HiP

>> No.5012726 [DELETED] 

>>5004575
FIGht TH3 InTeRñE+ CenSór$Hìp hTTp.// Á+ . KÌMmòA : $€ / FìGht +HE In+3Rñ€T [€nSoR5hÍp

>> No.5013282 [DELETED] 

bampu pantsu~

>> No.5014021

Survey is yielding interesting results.

>> No.5014187

>>5012672
I'm not insulting you, i'm advising you to take your blog elsewhere, as no one on /jp/ cares.

>> No.5014193

You guys are still going? Props for keeping it up with all the shit you guys get, I for one look forward to my loli incest eroge.

>> No.5014423

What is this?
>Pre-Alpha Release (~40%)

Can we actually play that 40%?

>> No.5014583

>>5014423
Yes. I really should make another release soon.

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>>5014187
Yeah, calling someone a fag definitely isn't an insult, no sir!

>> No.5014711

>>5014657
On 4chan, it usually isn't. See: namefag tripfag eurofag britfag amerifag etc.

>> No.5014791

>>5014711
That's a little bit different from saying "you colossal faggot".

>> No.5015078

>>5014583
What about the file that I put on the TLWiki earlier for now?
It has complete Anzu and Yusumi routes plus the .exe files fixing the test.

>> No.5015182

>>5014791
I called him a colossal faggot because he quite clearly is, as he is assuming that people give a shit about him. Cute, really.

>> No.5015315

>>5015182
Anonymous-kun, you're so KAWAII～ （´∀｀）

>> No.5018289

any progress with the translation?

>> No.5019060 [DELETED] 

Up!

>> No.5019388

>>5018289
I only see some editing on Anzu yesterday.

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>>5015078
We cannot speak of the content of external files as they are beyond the domain of REtrans International.

Here is the latest release.
http://www.mediafire.com/?eymyodj3mzw

>> No.5021362

Also, survey results show that our population is unanimous on some items, while quite evenly split on others.

>> No.5021372

>>5021339
How do you use this?

>> No.5021423

>>5021372
bump I already downloaded and installed hatsukoi but I'm not sure what I should do with this.

>> No.5021637

>>5021372
>>5021423
Create scenario.xp directory and extract the archive there.

>> No.5021686

Does anybody give a shit about this project now that Anzu has been fully translated and is over and done with? That is, are there any other routes I'd be interested in? Not trying to be mean, just asking...

>> No.5021939

>>5021686
I personally want Komomo, although it's the longest route (7K lines)

>> No.5022497 [DELETED] 

up!

>> No.5025396

>He thinks I'm not going to age this.

>> No.5026753

>>5025396
>implying
Back to /g/, please.

>> No.5028400

bump for progress

>> No.5029428

Translators taking a break again?

Don't forget to vote in the text formatting survey
http://216.237.122.18/rendersurvey.asp?sid=qnsoa53kengaaaz751276
and try out the alpha release:
http://www.mediafire.com/?eymyodj3mzw

>> No.5029625

up!

>> No.5029983

>>5021686
Karin

>> No.5029983,1 [INTERNAL] 

progress?

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