/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Mahou Tsukai no Yoru news! http://blog.livedoor.jp/humanity6/archives/51538549.html

It will have:
Release date on 2010/9/30
No voices.
No routes.
No H-scenes.
ED theme by supercell.

Aren't you excited?

[『五角场 ～之～ 无名氏』 No.]

>ED theme by supercell
真是太好了～(ﾉД`)

[Anonymous No.]

I can barely contain myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices
Well that's a pity.
>No H-scenes
Thanks god. I don't want any mollusks in my cool story.

[Anonymous No.]

Back in 2007 or so I'd play an unvoiced commercial VN.

Not any more.

[Anonymous No.]

Dropped.

[Some Guy No.]

So in other words it is just a book on my computer with a pop song at the end?

[Anonymous No.]

Guess I'll really have to buckle down on grinding my kanji over the summer so I'll be able to read this when it comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices
Why

[Anonymous No.]

No voices? Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>No Fun
Forgot that one OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>No H-scenes
Great, this means it'll actually be a visual book and they won't need to cram absurd sex scenes in thr-
>No voices.
>No routes.
Fuck this shit, it's 2010 and Type-Moon isn't as poor as Liar-sfot.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, no way. You lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407597
HIikari no valcia is fully voiced.
The question here is what did they do with KnK royalties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407599
I shit you not, supercell will be doing the ED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407603
Maybe Tsukihime Remake will be fully voiced?

[Anonymous No.]

MTnY is also written in third person. I don't much like third person in VNs but it's no deal breaker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407606
I doubt it, they didn't seem enthusiastic about voicing it when it was originally brought up. Plus, if they aren't voicing THIS (the title everyone assumed would be voiced)...

[Anonymous No.]

That guy is cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices.
>No routes.
>No H-scenes.
So why would anyone want to read this? For "animey story" I'd better read mango or watch animu.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is no voice acting such a big deal? Does it hurt you to just read the dialogue instead of listening to it? Or what?

[Anonymous No.]

Lot of butthurt in this thread.

Like this guy: >>5407555

What a captious little twat.


Also, is having routes really THAT important?

[Anonymous No.]

According to Nasu, it's because in this way you can attach your ideal voices to the characters and so grow more attached to them. He thinks part of Fate and Tsukihime's success was due to this.
It's written below the pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407628
It's not such a big deal. Rather, it's stupid. These days almost every commercial release will be voiced, and despite what >>5407640 said, when this gets console port it will be definitely voiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407555
What's the big deal? I tend to mute the voices unless every character including the protagonist are voiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407648
>despite what >>5407640 said,
I didn't say it, I just translated part of what's written in that page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407648
>These days almost every commercial release will be voiced

Alicesoft games are never voiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407634
>Also, is having routes really THAT important?
Girls and their routes are the main reason I read VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407657
Yes they are. Only Rance games are unvoiced in modern times - their non-gameplay titles are often full voiced and even the other gameplay titles are at least partially voiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407657
wtf are you smoking, almost all alicesoft games are voiced. Biggest exception is rance series

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407668

I humbly stand corrected.

>>5407660

Then why not go play a dating sim?

[Anonymous No.]

voices will be for the console version

[Anonymous No.]

It's probably gonna be pretty short, Nasu said that there won't be much difference compared to the original script he wrote in the 90's

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407705
Then what the fuck has he been working on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407728
Probably counting his money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407679
>Then why not go play a dating sim?
That doesn't really make sense. Dating sims are pretty different from VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407728
Working as many species of aquatic life as he can into the Tsukihime remake H scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407743

But if he only plays for the girls, why not just play a game entirely about the girls?

>>5407736

More like jacking off all over it.

[Anonymous No.]

It's going to be about 15 hours, based on the interview.
And since it has no voice, it will be read pretty fast, bet you can read in a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407761
15 hours for native readers of the language might turn into 20 or more hours for us though.

[Anonymous No.]

He's just too cheap to hire seiyuus.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices.
>No routes.
>No H-scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

We kind of already knew about no routes and no H-scenes. No voices is a little disappointing but I really don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407705

>Nasu said that there won't be much difference compared to the original script he wrote in the 90's

Why does this not inspire confidence in me?

Also this is worth remembering:

>- Is only the first of three parts
>- No plans on if next two parts will even be made, because they have never been written yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407728
Demon Souls, mainly.

[Anonymous No.]

fuck

[Anonymous No.]

No choices too.
Meaning it won't even have a bad end.

[Anonymous No.]

No voices
No routes
No choices
No H-scenes
15 hours

8000 yen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407851

Nasu has to pay for his expensive cars and prostitutes somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

I see a nuclear landmine.

[Anonymous No.]

No sprites
No CGs
No BGM
Text only
Final destination

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407869
an online book.

[Anonymous No.]

No voices
No routes
No choices
No H-scenes
No sprites
No CGs
No BGM
Text only
Downloadable only
DRM

8000 yen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407854
If Nasu ever actually had sex, his H-scenes wouldn't be so horribly written.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407878
You forgot the font is Comic Sans

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407640
Without the voice patch I would never have been able to finish FSN. Ueda Kana kept me going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407756
>But if he only plays for the girls, why not just play a game entirely about the girls?
Because some people don't like worrying about stats and stuff and just want to read a VN? Dating sims aren't the only galge, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey Nasu, how about an entire new story instead of an unfinished one?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408085
Why?
People like them, he makes money and plays Demon Soul's while living off royalties.
Living the dream.

[Anonymous No.]

No H-scenes is fine. The fanbase creates enough 34 of the characters I like anyway.
No voices is fine, see >>5407640

But I think no routes is lazy as shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Brace for TM having yet another franchise to milk.

Oh, and no SUGOI SUGOI means "fuck you Nasu" for me. She already has a voice, what is this bullshit about IMAGINATION thing. Bet you wanted to make all the characters faceless, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying any of you know japanese
>implying you will buy it
this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408383
You're in for quite a surprise...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407869
Took way too long for this to be posted.

[Milfeulle !.LunLunKCs No.]

>ED theme by supercell.

[Re !AnonI5xfmU No.]

This will be translated after H/A.

[Anonymous No.]

Soooo...
It's a light novel with music?
Okay...
Not like I give a flying fuck about Type Moon anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

ヽ（´ー｀）┌

[Anonymous No.]

Girls' Work where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408185
You cannot call it 'lazy' just for that.
Not all stories and setting offer themselves for different outcomes(at least interesting ones). And it's not a 'focus on one heroine per route and largely ignore the rest' VN.
>>5408675
Call it Sound Novel or whatever, it's not teh first one.
>>5407784
Well, F/SN got a budget treatment later on, but the original release lacked voices too.

[Anonymous No.]

The no voice part isn't that big of a deal to me.
I read a lot of paper-form books (aka real) and I also read both tsukihime and f/sn unvoiced.

But it certainly does surprise me, they remade f/sn on the playstation, fully voiced and they have been consistent with the voice actors throughout the works.
KnK also got voice actors through the movies and even f/z got voice actors through it's drama cds.
If you include what they did with tsukihime then pretty much all type moon characters so far have voices, even Zeltretch was voiced.
When they announced the Tsukihime remake my first thought was that they were basically going to do what they did to f/sn with realta nua, and of course with voices.
It seemed to me as if they enjoyed putting voices on everyone now when they could afford it or something.

I am fine anyway though but it doesn't quite make sense to me, it will be the only work where the characters doesn't have voices, and if you consider competition and other VN companies then I am also a bit perplexed on how they have the guts to release it unvoiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408713
You may notice almost everything got voices 'second-hand'.
Why the decided not to give voiced here?
No idea.
But this does not make it bad(though good voices are a plus)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408698
>Well, F/SN got a budget treatment later on, but the original release lacked voices too.
At least he didn't try to justify that by IMAGINATION. He simply milked it without any trashtalk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408698
Sound Novel is such a retarded name by the way.
Sound novel implies something more focused on sound than, say, visual novel - but it's unvoiced by default.
What.
Anyway, I just don't see a point - sure, I read a ton of books, manga, and light novels and don't mind no sound, but if something has sound already, then not voicing it is just cheap as fuck, no matter the excuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408713
It's a shame though cause the art is certainly beautiful and the voices could have added to that.

[Anonymous No.]

The point is that Type-Moon is saving tons of cash with this.
http://zepy.momotato.com/2010/04/21/eroge-seiyuu-costs/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408724
...Er, the point was that since they made a port, they should offer something extra.
Akaneiru ni Somaru Saka used Budgets VAs for the PS2 version too for example even though it was voiced, it's common practice.
Or the Higurash commercial release.

I guess he just does not like adding voices if he does not have to in general(it's been reported he is extremely picky during VA casting).

[Anonymous No.]

Dumb question but, what is this even going to be about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408765
Aoko's 'college' years/

[Anonymous No.]

I was completely prepared for no routes or h-scenes but no voices? Come on that's just lazy as shit and everyone knows it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408752
A dollar per word? Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408773
Dunno about you, but the VNs where I find the voices to be a plus or tolerable are a minority.
I usually mute them.

[Anonymous No.]

No SUGOI SUGOI makes me sad.

[Anonymous No.]

They blew the budget on graphix, I thought it looked too good to be true.
I know I'll get hated for this, but does this have fights or is it all slice of life genre?

[Anonymous No.]

...So why is this taking so much to be out then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408806
It may have confrontations of some short, but it's not of the bigger themes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408813
Too busy playing Demon Souls and reading Muramasa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408752
>Part of your comment isn't allowed to be posted :(
(It doesn't allow me to quote the rape negotiation thing)
Oh my. I know it's people with real social skills who does things like this for a living, but I could see that conversion to be rather awkward.
I might also laugh when she does the actual lines, it could be hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408813
It's probably the art and all that rubbish. At least it will have some beautiful CGs.

>>5408817
Assuming that Nasu really didn't edit the script too much, he could've done it much sooner, so Demons Souls and Muramasa didn't actually interrupt his work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408824
And just how does that filter work anyway? was it the "do rape" thing or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408824
It said that to me as well when I was trying to post Nasu's answers, what exactly isn't allowed in moonrunes?

[Anonymous No.]

At least Nasu has good taste in eroge.
His view on Evolimit is pretty much the same as mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408848
And that would be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408856
Read his blog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408863
I am more interested on how you phrase your own opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408868
Well the usual.
Great humor, Shiranui is god tier protagonist, Shizuku is my waifu and the fights are well done.
But too much convenient power up, the scale got too big at the end of the last route, the story and antagonists weren't developed enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices.
... what?
>No routes.
... WHAT?
>No H-scenes.
We knew that one or two years ago.

It works for R7, but TM isn't supposed to be a professional company and this project was announced years ago. No voices, I can get, but no routes? Yeah, I guess everyone would just end up with sensei anyway, but this is starting to look really fucking lazy.

Then again, it's not like any of us are actually going to buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408930
>Yeah, I guess everyone would just end up with sensei anyway, but this is starting to look really fucking lazy.

Well, it was never supposed to have a 'heroine per route format'.
It's an adaptation of a novel/story Nasu wrote a long time ago, being linear is somewhat expected.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is everyone going on about the no routes thing? Linear, professional visual novels are hardly rare. Unvoiced ones are though, these days anyway.

I don't really care about there being no routes, a lot of the time routes feel awfully filler-ish, like they're just there because everyone expects them to be. I'm annoyed about the lack of voicing though.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices
It's like it's really 2003!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408930
What's so surprising about the no routes thing?
It didn't surprise me the slightest.

It's based on a previously written story that connects dots to the other works and is in a sense a prequel.
Fate/Zero may have been released in book form but that was also a prequel, no routes.
Besides, there aren't "enough" heroines in this one and the multiple routes would mess with the story.
Tsukihime and Fate/stay night are basically two stories starting at certain points and evolving differantly, this is a story starting at a certain point that evolves to KnK/Tsuki/FSN.

[Van_Artic No.]

mmh, it's fine for me

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really mind no routes, as long as the game is significant in size. Linear isn't a bad thing, a number of great games are linear.

No H isn't a bad thing, as long as there aren't scenes where it is annoying not to have them (I personally think Fal's route in Symphonic Rain should have had one in the appropiate place with how they did that scene, elsewhere in the game though I have no complaints.)

No voices though is annoying, it's fucking 2010, and it isn't some doujin game like Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly the only thing that bother me is the length.
Considering Nasu's writing style, the way he writes a lot for not much, it looks like this one won't have much content.

[Anonymous No.]

hahahahahaa oh type-moon....

[Anonymous No.]

>>5408848
What does he like?

[Anonymous No.]

So, the second part MIGHT be released in 2013 or something?

...Good god, Type-Moon. You make being a lazy bastard to whole new level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409045
He really liked Muramasa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409047
There's also the fact that say this game isn't well received what would be the point of making a sequel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409055
Then what the fuck are they going to do, make remake of FSN in 2014?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409064
A KnK VN with Mana as MC, would work and less characters too create.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409051
Who didn't?

He is also a big Propeler fan, loved Forest and is one of the reason Cross Channel was succesful since he hyped it a lot.
All in all, he has pretty good taste in eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

Guess I'll wait for the console version then, no routes doesn't do me anything and no H-scenes is more of a plus but I'm not going to play it without voices.

[Anonymous No.]

He wrote the basic story behind F/SN a long time ago too and managed to expand it into multiple routes, did he not?

Lacking all three of those things after such a long wait is inexcusable.

[Anonymous No.]

No routes, no voices and no H-scenes, is this a VN or a light novel?

[Anonymous No.]

We all know the reason for no routes: Nasu doesn't want anyone getting with his waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not like everyone on /jp/ played FSN with voices for the first time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409105
Even with voices, I tend to skip most of them as I read much faster than the voices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409107
It bothers me on a personal level, that you do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409105
> It's not like everyone on /jp/ played FSN with voices for the first time.

F/SN was released 6 years ago in Japan.

Back in 2004, unvoiced wasn't all that unusual

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409116
Not my fault they speak so slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409117
It's not that it's unusual.
That's not why people are complaining.
It's because you know that Type-Moon has the money for it.
To not voice, when you have the budget to voice, IS very unusual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409124
plus they took a LONG time to do it too...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409091
Routes or not is not a matter of 'development.
It's about the story you want to write.
Tacking on routes for the sake of routes is stupid.
And Vns do not have to be eroge by default(considering it's Nasu, it's quiteokay)

The only surprise is the lack of voices, since few commercial VNs lack them now, but it's not really a dealbreaker.

[Anonymous No.]

Lack of voices is sort of surprising I guess, but frankly I dislike them. I can't understand Japanese, so they do very little for me, and I read much faster than people talk so I find myself either interrupting the dialogue constantly or being annoyed while waiting for them to finish talking.

I won't say I hate voices--it does add a lot to your image of a character--but frankly it seems like one of least useful bells and whistles for a VN. The dialogue is right there on the screen, after all.

Lack of routes is disappointing though, I was hoping for an Alice route.

[Anonymous No.]

Actually, The voices in realta nua ruined my image of Rin and made Sakura beyond salvation.

Gotta hate Rin's squirrel voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409469
Hey, I like Kana Ueda.

I'm with you on Sakura's voice though. SENPAAAIHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>People skipping Kotomine's voice
>>5409469
>does not like Ueda Kana

[Anonymous No.]

It says no routes, but is there any info on how long it's going to be?

[Anonymous No.]

Good thing this shit will be Linear so faggots won't argue on what's canon or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409483
TM rarely has the problem, since everything is.
People arguing about it is a good indicator to stay away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409483
Type-moon doesn't bother with such trivial things. That's why there will never be a non-dream sequence sequel to anything they do.

[Meushijyo No.]

>Natsuhi first
>Rosa fourth
>Beato beating Ange
>Belphegor's the highest stake

Huh. Apparently, Japan's taste has improved lately.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Voice skippers are the lowest common denominator of eroge readers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409532
Oh glorious master race, tell me of the wonders of listening to five solid minutes of licking sounds as a voice actress does her best cocksucking impression for an audience that has never experienced the act in reality and assumes it sunds like a pig drinking a barrel of milk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409643
Ero scenes were not in Realta Nua, therefore they can't be voiced on PC by conversion, silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409643
Making a lot of assumptions there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409643
You mean a real blowjob doesn't sound like what I hear in eroge? Goddammit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409665
Don't worry, you can replicate the effect by pointing a shotgun mic at her and connecting it your home theater system.

[Anonymous No.]

>No Voices
FUCK YES
>No Routes
Uhh... less stuff to skip when trying to get another rou-- wait. Well, it worked for Planetarian so let's see.
>No H-Scenes
WHAT

[Anonymous No.]

>>5410994
>>No Voices
FUCK YES
...Why is this anything to rejoice about? If you don't care about voicing you can just turn the voicing off, so it can only ever be a negative thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices.

Don't care, i'll get used after 5 minutes.
Also, voices in F/SN were fucking annoying due to Shirou's stupidity, i fucking wanted to kill his VA.

>No H-scenes.

I'm ok with this, i prefer VN without eroshit.

>No routes.

This is not a problem, however... Nasu writes a lot, but 50% of his shit is repetitions or pointless shit ("I feel the intent to kil in the room" ugh), so a 10 hours VN would be like 5...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409483

Faggots don't know about mai multiuniverse.

Anyway, is Aoko the mc? does this mean we get a female awesome main character and pov, for once?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407745

That was the most hilarious thing I've read all day. Seriously, I cracked up IRL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411053
Aoko is the main character, hopefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>At a glance, might appear to be a "modern magus" just like Aoko, but she's actually the opposite. Fixated on the one memento of her family. Actually, surprisingly psychologically unstable and self-abusive (Yandere - the new phenomenon in the Tsundere type - girl might appear to have the loving of a Tsundere, but she also happens to have a darker aspect to her that goes beyond just being cold; Kaede, Kotonoha, Yoppi for example....).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411076


Yesssss

Then, what role does the boy have?

[Anonymous No.]

>ED theme by supercell.


Any sample?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409483
I enjoy that though. If you just want the creator to hand everything to you then you have no imagination. Why is /jp/ so hung up on what's canon and what isn't, anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411086
>>5411076
Prepare for disappointment if you expect it to be narrated by Aoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411080
Is that Alice's profile? FUCK YES

[Anonymous No.]

It's like an expensive book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411120
Yeah, I've never heard of a VN without routes or voices or H scenes before. Why is /jp/ so retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411120
PICTURE book.
With music/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411086
Main character. Aoko's not the narrator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411140

FUCK THIS SHIT

Who is the narrator then?

As long the story focus on her as the mc i don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

Lack of H-scenes was to be expected. I would actually be surprised if TM ever made another eroge, since Takeuchi apparently had to talk Nasu into stuffing sex into Tsukihime and FSN to help sales before they hit it big. Now they're popular enough that it's unnecessary.

No voices is a bit disappointing, but its didn't bother me when I read Tsukihime, Fate/UBW, Umineko, or Higurashi so I doubt it'll bother me with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices

Fuck you Nasu. Not interested anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411150
third-person narrator

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad not everyone in TM is sex-obsessed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411165

Oh well, better than some generic male character.. i'm ok as long Aoko is the focus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411164
You read tsukihime and fate without voices, and you're not even going to pay for this game. Why is it so much of a problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411164


Proof that most of T-M fags only care for appearance

That's why Rin is the most popular heroine and F/SN is way more famous than Tsukihime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411166
I think Troy Maclure is the only person who enjoys nasu sex scenes.

Besides, there will be doujins.

[Anonymous No.]

Will this ever be translated?
What's mirrormoon doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411193
I think they died hundreds of years ago, but who knows if they'll come together for this. I don't doubt someone will pick it up very quickly after its release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411193
They're long disbanded.

[Anonymous No.]

I heard this use Nasu "new style"

Care to explain?
Does he still write like a complete retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411150
Gee, I don't know, maybe THE PROTAGONIST?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411220
Terrestrial animals

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411230

His design looks hot, but i know i'll hate him at the end of the novel

Well, at least Alice looks lovely, Kuundere + Yandere. Mai new TM waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>I read VNs for the voice acting... IN A LANGUAGE I DON'T UNDERSTAND

/jp/ is dumb, as always.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>5411293
>>he still can't understand Japanese

/a/ is dumb, as always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411305

>implying that more than 1% of /jp/ understands Japanese

lol

Besides, even if it were in English, voice acting is just an extra. I probably wouldn't always wait for them to finish their lines anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411305
>he thinks anyone other than faggots who hate themselves for being born white want to learn japanese

Stupid tripfaggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411319
it's way more than 1%, and then again, the poeple posting in this thread would be the ones interested in untranslated eroge. I'd say it's more or less 50% of this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411326
>he still thinks learning a language means wishing to be born/live in that country when it's actually just learning a fucking language.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like voices, at least. It helps me with the kanji sometimes, and it's just a nice feature to have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411349
>the poeple posting in this thread would be the ones interested in untranslated eroge
It's Type Moon, so not really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411319
>>5411326
Trying so hard, for such a shallow payoff.

[Anonymous No.]

Tsukihime would have been much better with FSN quality voice and soundtrack.

No that's not an opinion but a factual analysis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411596
Tsukihime is fine throughout without music.

Silence is golden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411596
>Tsukihime would have been much better with FSN quality voice


Not really
I wound't be able to stand Shiki "ugh" "arg" every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411596
I have to admit, "THIS CHAIR" could have been epic

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411620
Shiki doesn't say that verbally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411603
No.
Music and Voices are essential to make a work look & feel alive. The score and remixes from Tsukihime were pretty bad when compared with FSN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411622
> The score and remixes from Tsukihime were pretty bad when compared with FSN.
Because TM was a doujin group/released in 2001.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411629
I know that.

Voice tracks are mandatory for a company like T-M. What the hell are they thinking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407607
Even Crescendo had voices and if I remember correctly it was written in 3rd person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407640
>According to Nasu, it's because in this way you can attach your ideal voices to the characters and so grow more attached to them
That's why video games with no voice acting are superior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411632
>Voice tracks are mandatory for a company like T-M.
Are you saying TM is a rich company?

The first voiced VN they released was realta nua and that was only 3 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411649
Right, because I create a unique voice for each character and read out all of their lines in that voice inside my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411658
>The first voiced VN they released was realta nua and that was only 3 years ago.
Because they sold it for ps2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411662
You do, actually. Have you never watched a movie after reading the book it's based on? I know I was surprised after hearing the FSN voices for the first time, after I had finished the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411675
I must not be autistic enough. Maybe I do somewhat but not to the extent to feel a sense of discord upon hearing the characters voiced by others later on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411230
>HERP DE DERP
Say it with me people: THE NOVEL IS THIRD PERSON.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411690
>creativity and empathy
>autistic
You keep using that word. I do not think you know what it means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411696
What you're talking about has nothing to do with empathy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411704
Neither does what you're talking about with autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>5409107
>Even with voices, I tend to skip most of them as I read much faster than the voices.

Everybody does that.

All that money and effort, wasted on lines most people aren't even going to hear.

This is why VN devs should do it the way Bioware used to: voice only the first couple lines of every character, and after that, the reader will read the rest in her voice. Works like a charm and takes very little resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411738
I wish Bioware wasn't so Linear....

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411738
Doesn't work.
I couldn't use the SnI's MC voice even once after hearing it several times per chapter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411738
Just no. And yes I always wait until my waifus finished speaking. If you aren't doing that then please leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411738
I agree. Having some lines voiced is great, but once I hear it I can just imagine it, for the same reason there doesn't need to be CGs of every possible pose for the characters.

It seems odd to not voice it, but the inevitable xbox 360 port will definately have them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411757
if you have more than one waifu you should get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411771
I'm a multi-dimensional being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411662
You mean you DON'T do that? There's something wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411775
You're a nigger. Disguisting, multi-dimensional, nigger. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411738
Speak for yourself. I'll even replay the lines if I accidentally skip them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411785

[Anonymous No.]

So in the end, who is gonna translate the game?

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>5411785

Real classy, Anonymous.

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>>5411818

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411806
>I'll even replay the lines if I accidentally skip them.

Good luck with that OCD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5407544
I am excite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5411806
I'm with this guy. Sorry I always listen to every word of the voiceacting. Yes it takes me a long ass time to get through VN.

[Anonymous No.]

None of those bother me. It seems like a lot of people are complaining about them solely for the sake of having something to bitch about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5414428
>people are complaining about them solely for the sake of having something to bitch about.
Welcome to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5414428
>None of those bother me. So how come other people complain?
I don't know, maybe because we're not you?

[Taft !!3FM2GPo0Hsa No.]

>No voices.
Disappointing for me. I'll be honest, I'm not too imaginative so it's not like I can add my own voice to it in my head.
>No routes.
Bad ends are usually nice to have just to know "what if", but whatever it's cool.
>No H-scenes.
This also better mean no implied sex scenes. That shit is fucking annoying. Suddenly things get fucking hot- aaaaaaaaannndd cut to the next day. "hurr durr last night was great protagonist-kun".
you can fuck right off

[Anonymous No.]

>>5414475
I'd be alright with implicit ero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5414474
Nice job quoting something I never said.

[Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga No.]

No voices and no routes is pretty disappointing. I guess I'll pass on this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5414547
>I don't understand how > works!

[Anonymous No.]

I always skip H-scene voices, but never skip anything else. Partially because I want to get the most out of the product, but also because the voices and the acting are sometimes fucking awesome. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

Hurp Derp Picture Book with Music

text pacing, animations, sfx, transitions...

You'd think that people would at least understand what the medium can do when they have such an esoteric interest in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5415245
I think you're the one who doesn't understand, /v/-kun.

>>5415952
Considering they're acting like not having voices, routes, or ero is unheard of they probably aren't very familiar with the medium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5415982
The medium is used to immerse the reader by adding audio and visual stimuli into the product. By stripping the product of one of these stimuli you create an inferior product.

End of thread and nobody cares about your opinion. 2+2 = 4

[Anonymous No.]

No voices.
No routes.
No Aoko as narrator

Why the fuck would I be excited about this? The CG pack is going to be the only thing of any worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5415982
While it isn't that unusual, T-M's hardly small time compared to other eroge studios. I think people could be forgiven for assuming voices at least would be included.

[Anonymous No.]

I usually skip the slice of life segments if they take too long. I can do without hearing the grocery list or stuff like that. Important scenes though I always hear, even if it's menial stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

You're all going to pirate it anyway. Me included.

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 another fanboy storms the thread and defends the decision to not include voices. That's like movie studios releasing their movies without voices but with subs only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5416855
>That's like movie studios releasing their movies without voices but with subs only.
Now you're just being silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5416886
No it's true and a good point to ridicule the imagination trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

The last commercial VN I remember that was released unvoiced was MQ.

Do we really want Mahou Tsukai no Yoru to be another MQ?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't really care if it has no voice but I really hope Girls' Work will be voiced.
Forest used voices in a fucking awesome way.

[Anonymous No.]

>voices in F/SN were fucking annoying due to Shirou's stupidity
You were clearily influenced by the retarded part of the fanbase and the trolls prior to reading it. It really wasn't that bad and Shirou was clearily not stupid, his goal wasn't to win the war.

>>5411293
Sure we might not be able to read japanese. but are you seriously saying you can't follow it in words?

>>5416962
That comparison is actually horrible, I won't defend the choice of no voices though, despite of what Nasu says it surprises me even has the guts to try releasing it without them in this day and age.
It doesn't bother me that much though, it's not as if it will be a first.

But really no ero and no routes was to be excpected.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>5417206

R07 releases his products without any voices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417222
He does doujins.
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru is a commercial product.
Also 8000 yen.

[Anonymous No.]

Voices will probably come with a console port, and I would be surprised if it didn't happen.

Looking at the quality of discussion makes me wonder if there's a better place than /jp/ to discuss vns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417248
>Also 8000 yen.
It's in REALLY poor taste to talk about the price when none of us are going to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417206
>You were clearily influenced by the retarded part of the fanbase and the trolls prior to reading it. It really wasn't that bad and Shirou was clearily not stupid, his goal wasn't to win the war.

No i wasn't, Shirou is fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417278
>You were clearily influenced by the retarded part of the fanbase and the trolls prior to reading it. It really wasn't that bad and Shirou was clearily not stupid, his goal wasn't to win the war.

No i wasn't, Shirou is fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417259

Tsukihime didn't have a console port, didn't it?

Don't consoles port usually come with after an Anime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417290
They're completely different things. Really, it's rare enough for either to be made of a doujin game that you can't exactly use other cases as precedent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417272
speak for yourself and your ilk

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417272
This is true, but only because it looks like a landmine. I pay for most of the eroge I play. I'm not going to pay for Mahou Tsukai no Yoru because I'm not going to play the thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>No voices
Standard for Type Moon games, just wait for the console port.
>No routes
Because it's an adaptation from a book. I prefer no routes anyway.
>No H-scenes
99% of the time H-scenes detract from the game, I prefer it this way.

Basically, stop whining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417416
>My opinion > your opinion
>stop whining

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417272
What am I supposed to do with my money then?
Clothes? Don't need them.
Food is a necessity, internet connection is a must and I have to pay rent, but that's basically it.
Concerts and movie theaters freak me out and isn't really my thing. I don't do things like that.

So what do you think pirates do with their money? Store them somewhere in order to become rich or something?
This is what falls under my interests, so it's only natural for me to spend money on it. Real things has collectors value and everything, it can't really be compared to non-physical products.

I buy what I can afford and I pirate what I can't, though I still make full use of my money, I am not made out of money and they aren't losing anything from me, they get what they get and they can't get more.

I was thinking of getting Steins;Gate though and I amnot sure if I can get both, are any of them going to have limited/collector's editions? If so then the price may get out of hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417455
steins;gate is an august game, this is a september game

[Anonymous No.]

>>5416962
Not really, just retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5417455
Why not buy figures or artbooks? That's what I've always done, for the very reason that real things have collector's value. VNs on the other hand are a digital product, unless a DVD and some packaging are worth the 8000 yen to you, in which case go for it.