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Bill 156 has passed


http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20101215-OYT1T00634.htm?from=main1
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-12-15/full-tokyo-assembly-passes-youth-ordinance-bill
http://twitter.com/dankanemitsu/status/14918952450785280

The nonexistent crime bill prevents the trade of media with depictions of illegal or social taboos, filters internet access within tokyo, the production of media that contravene the bill within tokyo.

/a/ is declaring the end of anime and manga, /v/ doesn't give a shit about JRPGS, So, how are you affected?

>> No.6626632

It's just another set of laws that will never get enforced.

tl;dr typical Japanese politics at work. Nothing to worry about.

>> No.6626629

Well that just means I'll never get a second season of Kaiji, Akagi or One Outs

>> No.6626635

Come back in June when it's close to going into effect

>> No.6626637

Anime/manga and JRPGS. The law doesn't ban shit and H-Doujins and Eroge are still legal.

Though, shit this may effect Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, when is that slated to come out?

>> No.6626640

Fag, go back to /a/ and read the sticky.

>> No.6626639

Is there anything this doesn't affect?

>> No.6626646

I'll still get my 2nd season of Milky Holmes right?

>> No.6626647

>>6626639
Novels

>> No.6626653

>>6626639
It just marks things as 18+.
If your work is already 18+, it doesn't really matter. It's also Tokyo-only.

>> No.6626656

Not again, holy shit. Fuck off already.

>> No.6626661
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6626661

I like how Doraemon has been retracted from TAF 2011 as well as half of everything else

>> No.6626667

>Mangaka Takaku Shoko tweeted that one of the major publishers turned her manga down because one of the characters in a high school uniform could contravene the local ordinance of Tokyo. She was frightened to know that the bill has already made the industry flinch.

>Mangaka Meiji Kanako tweeted that the re-release of one of her manga has been under deliberation because of the descriptions of minors' sex in the manga. She said she won't be surprised if it's canceled.

It's happening already....

>> No.6626674

And people were like this, yesterday:

"IT HAS NOT YET PASSED. IT DIDN'T THE FIRST TIME. IT DIDN'T THE SECOND TIME. IT WON'T NOW."

Well, where is your god now?

>> No.6626679

>>6626674
He's taking it easy and playing Touhou. Also not caring.

>> No.6626681

>>6626661
>Doraemon

Now this is one that actually fucking means something.

>> No.6626687

Now ALL VN's must be eroge because it's illegal to depict school uniforms, or we get fewer school based VNs, not sure how to feel about that

>> No.6626692

You mark the work as 18 or over and the problem is solved. No more underage retards being able to buy fap stuffs.

>> No.6626698

>>6626687
It's win-win either way.

>> No.6626714

>>6626692
The problem is that it means less advertisement (on public tv stations), and fewer profits.
They'll have to change their bussiness model around to succeed in Tokyo.

>> No.6626706

Not at all.
Nothing will actually be enforced, and once they realize that if they try to regulate anime and manga they'll just end up ruining everything, they'll probably give up on that.

There's also the possibility that some studios might leave Tokyo to have more freedom or something like that, and since I'm not minor and shows that air after midnight clearly don't have children in mind, a double nothing is going to happen.

Don't let those overreacting children from /a/ fool you, OP.

>> No.6626717

>>6626706
>self-regulated
>collateral fees
This is basically the system currently in place to already regulate the hentai and VN industry and it's pretty damn clear it's effective.

>> No.6626723

>>6626692
The Tokyo government can directly regulate what can be publish or not.

>> No.6626728

Nothing will change. It's just baka gaijin overreacting.

>> No.6626733

>>6626717
actually it's a multi layered system, There's self-regulation at the industry level on publishing, then there's the governmental clauses restricting creation of items then a sales ban on certain items.

>> No.6626741

>>6626728
go check out 2ch

>> No.6626746

Please tell me you're all just people coming over from /a/ for this.
We're not having the same fucking discussion for the 5th time in three days, do we?

>> No.6626752

Figs are unaffected, so I don't give a shit.

>> No.6626750

dox on ishihara-kun plz

>> No.6626761

>>6626746
More like the third time today. Good god.

>> No.6626764

>>6626746
More like 55th

>> No.6626771

I wonder how Pygma-chan feels about this...? I know she'd have the answer.

>> No.6626777

>>6626746
This time the bill is a certainty

>> No.6626800

>>6626752
everything is now kiddy anime, fewer of your favourite series are adapted, fewer figs get made

>> No.6626806

>>6626800
>implying that anime is the only thing figures come from

>> No.6626811

>>6626800
That's not how this works at all. Holy shit.

>> No.6626822

>>6626800
They can just slap in late-night anime, manga and sexy figs as R18, right?

The law is vague to begin with. Just like every other 'youth development' law out there.

>> No.6626829

>>6626629
not like they were ever going to happen

>> No.6626840
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6626840

>/a/ and Sankaku Complex misinterpreting and blowing something out of proportion causing idiots to panic and hide in their underground bunkers* as usual

* = Under their bed in the basement

>> No.6626846

>>6626862

Figs are not a form of madia. I repeat, FIGS ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THIS LAW.

>> No.6626855

There is still Kyoto Animation.

>> No.6626865

>>6626840
Yeah. How sensationalist /ɐ/ has become.

>> No.6626874

S0000037@section.metro.tokyo.jp

>> No.6626882
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>> No.6626898

>>6626674
I was like that, not yesterday. I was like that before the DPJ decided they would support it. I was all like "Yeah, modifying a bill that wasn't passed the first time so it's even worse the second time, that'll so pass." Someone else was like "it works in the US." Turns out in works in Japan too.

>> No.6626900

>>6626840
GRABBIN MAH SKS, GOIN INNA WOODS

>> No.6626905

YAY FOR LEFTISY GOVS

>> No.6626912

>>6626822
Can't air 18+ anime late night.

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>>6626629
>second season of One Outs
Wait, what..

>> No.6626929

/jp/ can you please go see what 2ch and 2chan is doing right now? we are deeply sorry for bothering you.

>> No.6626975

>>6626929
top two threads on 2D in 2chan are about the bill, over a dozen threads in 2ch depending where you look

>> No.6626983
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>>6626929
>go to futaba
>see this pic
>come buckets again

>> No.6626994

I, for one, would like to congratulate Japan for expanding their own underground.

First look at all the backwards moralists in their government, then look at all the sick fucks that their culture is known for. The sick fucks survive in spite of their moralist government, so that should tell you plenty. When things that were formerly mainstream are being pushed underground, all that will happen is that the moralist trappings of government-approved media will gradually vanish and give way to unrestricted free expression.

Look forward to seeing more Kodomo no Jikan and tentacle rape.

>> No.6626987

>>6626929
A thread in 2chan's News board talking about the bill and how it will affect Comiket.

>> No.6626989

>>6626929
Top thread in 2chan's 2D Industry board.
http://dat.2chan.net/43/res/14202.htm

>> No.6627036

>>6626661
>>6626882
What makes you think shows like Saki and Soranowoto would be allowed?

>> No.6627038

>>6627036
They're not aimed at children

>> No.6627056 [DELETED] 

>>6627036
Those aren't shows that would be banned, those are the shows for the publishers boycotting the festival.

>> No.6627055

>>6627038
This law doesn't give a fuck if it's not aimed at children because they can still buy it.

>> No.6627062

>>6627036
Those aren't shows that would be banned, those are the shows for the publishers boycotting the festival.

>> No.6627078

>>6626994

This pleases me greatly. It's kind of like how we have access to better weed BECAUSE it's illegal.

Or that's bullshit. Actually, Bill 156 was declared inconstitutional I believe but I don't remember where I read it.

>> No.6627118

can't they appeal the bill?

does japan even have a supreme court?

>> No.6627130

Go cry wolf on /a/ with the rest of the retards.

Meanwhile I will just fap to my "banned" rape hentai.

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6627141

Pretty damn sure Touhou is not affected by this at all. Even the doujins, since they're already 18+ anyway. Thus, pic related.

>> No.6627876

To begin with I have real doubts on how good this will actually be enforced and to what degree it will actually affect things.

Secondly, to pull a number out of my ass I could say that about 80% of all /jp/ things are already 18+ to begin wtih, hence unaffected.
As for non-ero doujin works, the doujin market will not be nearly as affected as any official market either way, so the doujin market would go off virually unaffected even if the official market were to be in some way.

Though I do wonder how it would affect non ero galge.
Perhaps they would move on to 18+ ero.
Though then that's still only if this bill has any practical effect at all to begin wtih.

Remember when the Rapelay incident managed to put preassure on the goverments to enforce the Ero regulations of the 18+ market?
That had virtually no effect.

>> No.6627885

>>6626623
>prevents the trade
I have yet to see someone making a thread OP that isn't chock full of misindformation.
How about reading the yomiuri article you linked?
Oh wait, no one of you can read what the law is actually about and just go on on second-hand shitty sources.

>> No.6627894

Last time I visited /a/, the first thread was a Naruto thread, which had a lot of posts.
I haven't been since, and if that's the kinda shit that's going to be there, I sure as hell aren't going back there.

>> No.6627895

/a/ faggots should read this
http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2010/12/14/something-people-overseas-can-do-fight-misconceptions-a
bout-bill-156-and-japan/
>I am pretty tired of having to repeat, over and over and over, how people need to read the text of the bill and not relay what pundits say about it. Journalists should know better.

>> No.6627923

The anime producers should just declare ALL anime as 18+ and relocate it to a separate pay-TV channel within Tokyo. This way people will have to sign for a porn channel just so their kids can watch cartoons.

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Not corean mmo, don't care

>> No.6627939

>>6627923
>implying japanese parents want their kids watching anime

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