/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

After what he did with the seagulls series, will you give R07 another shot, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Of course, i will make sure to play Ten desires!

[Anonymous No.]

Definitely. I hope he continues writing the way he does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050034
I liked Higurashi. I liked the first four episodes of Umineko.
Yea, I'd give him another shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050142
Are you saying ZUN made higurashi and umineko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050147
You lost me

[wtH !hWtHG71Z1c No.]

>>7050150

[Anonymous No.]

See you in "When the crab lice cry".

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like Higurashi. I don't like any of his other series. I only liked Umineko and he screwed it.

Unless he makes something as relevant to my interests as Umineko no way I will read the when the next whatever cry.
Oh, forgot Bern will be there. I'm 100% not reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050034

Since I downloaded Umiwacko illegally off the interbutt, sure. It'll be interesting to see what kind of a spectacular train wreck his next thing will be.

If I had actually paid money for it, I would probably be pretty angry at him but as it is I'm kind of chill and amused.

Poor R07 is fast becoming the M. Night Shyamalan of VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050267
Go away.

[Anonymous No.]

The dude's worldbuilding and fate obsession will keep me crawling back regardless. :(

[Anonymous No.]

Well I've enjoyed his works so far so no reason not to for me.

[Anonymous No.]

As long as he doesn't turn it into an official shipperfag fic like he did with Umineko and actually sticks to what people give a fuck about, it'd be good. Also, the red herring tsundere is getting old.

[Anonymous No.]

You will crawl back simply because his games will always be translated fast, that's one of the few good thing about having tons of mindless fans.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes, I love Zun's writing.

[Anonymous No.]

Ryukishi07 is the /jp/ equivalent of /a/'s Tite Kubo, you know it to be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>Welcome to the world of When Wombats Cry!
>The life in an ordinary moonbase is thrown into chaos when mysterious incidents begin to disturb the daily routines of the crew!
>Who murdered the subcommander's male mother? What is the secret of the Asidophilus Room? Why does the wild-eyed loli in a nazi uniform recite the phonebook? What do you get when you cross an owl with a bungee cord? It's up to you, in the shoes of the spunky highschooler Yoshi Bukkake, to find out what contrived bullshit the celebrated audio novelist Ryu Kishi has invented this time!
>Remember: if you don't like it, you're a goat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050421
I'd buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050421
FUND IT

[Anonymous No.]

>what he did
He did great and I can't for Umineko Rei and the new series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7051795
is Umineko REI really on the way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053490
It's called Tsubasa and it's already out.

[Anonymous No.]

Only if there are a two characters whose names end in -on who engage in identity exchanges with each other, which leads to several murders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053763
No, it's not. Tsubasa is just a collection of Extra TIPS released long ago.
He said he wants to *write* Umineko Rei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050421

Don't forget to recycle characters. Furu Derika and Trente Quatre have to fit into the story somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't read 8 yet, but I'd like to see what he does next. I hope Umineko Rei gives more information about what happened on the island

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053784
Don't you mean Trowa Quatre?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053787
It won't, that was the whole message of episode 8

[Anonymous No.]

Even with episode 8, I'll stick around, because I liked Higurashi and ignoring episode 8, I liked Umineko a bit more. I'll stick around to see what else he writes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053784

They accidentaly drifted into the moon base with their suit!

[R07 No.]

R07 here.

Do you remember our love, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Havn't read EP8 of Umineko but I've enjoyed it so far, it had it's retarded moments but it hasn't deterred me from any of his future works.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't given him another shot since I watched Higurashi S1. He's a cross between Dan Brown and every crossover fanfic writer ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053809
>Even with episode 8, I'll stick around, because I liked Higurashi and ignoring episode 8's end, I liked Umineko just as much. I'll stick around to see what else he writes

>>7053784

of course they do. To be honest i only anticipate his next work so much because i want to see what will Lambda and Bern do in it

>>7053778

yeah, and i was just curious if he did any updates on his blog about it yet. I didn't visit /jp/ in about 1,5 month

[Anonymous No.]

Sure. I liked Higurashi and loved Umineko both about 7/8ths the way through, even if he fucked up the last 1/8 on both. Maybe someday he'll learn to write endings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053784
>Furu Derika
I laughed, loud.

[Anonymous No.]

I liked Higurashi and loved Umineko 1-4. I'll keep reading whatever he writes, and hopefully he won't end up completely FUCKING a series halfway in like he did with Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, Higurashi 1-4 and Umineko 1-2 were awesome, but everything after that turned to shit and I hear he's ruining Rewrite now too, so no, I'll remember him for his good works and pretend that he stopped writing afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

Is he going to have a new series out in time for August Comiket? Or is he taking a break?

[Anonymous No.]

new title confirmed:

"When masseuse make banana cry"

itll have a happy ending

[Anonymous No.]

Are you all fucking crazy? Umineko is a masterpiece. Sure, 1-4 is best for a casual reader, but the core arcs are still amazing.

I for one look forward to seeing if 07th Expansion come up with When They Cry 5 at CK80

[Anonymous No.]

>>7053829
>watched

There's your problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054422
>When They Cry 5
>CK80

not sure if gonna happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054422
>>7054445

If you're talking about time constraints, they didn't miss a year between Higurashi and Umineko. Otherwise, I think both VNs were well received, and I don't see why 07th Expansion would quit now. If not at CK, I'm sure we'll see them in some form other other.

[Anonymous No.]

>Derek A. Fury was just like any other high school student, until one day when a new transfer student arrived and things took a turn for the crazy! When the janitor goes missing and his teacher is found with a ruler crammed through her ears, he takes it upon himself to explore the deepest, darkest mysteries of the school. What is the secret truth of the school principal? Why is the transfer student nervously clapping her hands in the corner? This summer... When the School Bells Cry, tardies will be marked absent...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054461

Rei comes first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054461
But back then, he wasn't working on Rewrite, Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni and an as-of-yet-unnanounced collaboration with Studio DEEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050293
>worldbuilding
>R07

Seriously? That's probably the thing he's worst at in my opinion. The metaverse was a complete mess with no consistent rules, set pieces, characters or explanation. His physical world consists of a mansion.

Higurashi did a very nice job of depicting rural Japan, but that was probably mostly him recalling his childhood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054461
it's less than 5 months until next Comiket, meanwhile Ryu is doing new Ougon game, supposedly Umineko Rei and various other projects. I'm just not sure if that's enough time to think up a new setting, story premise, characters and so on.
Would be nice though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054479
>The metaverse was a complete mess with no consistent rules

i thought it's supposed to be like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054490
>I'm just not sure if that's enough time to think up a new setting, story premise, characters and so on.
It's not like his mind was locked in Umineko mode for four years straight, you know? He could've come up with a concept and slowly expanded upon it in those four years, so it would only need the finishing touches to become a complete story.

[Anonymous No.]

It's sad how deluded the Umineko fags can be

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054523
Without love, it cannot be seen

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050293
> fate obsession

right. so far we had a series in which after years of trial and error overcoming bad fate was possible and series in which no matter what you did you were doomed from the beginning.
i wonder what's up next

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054559
Will either be set in space or in a train that go from Shanghai to Germany.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054500
>it's supposed to be shit, that makes it not shit!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054490
I heard, he said he wrote ep8 in a month or so, so it's not a problem, especially considering >>7054509

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054559
A series where a good fate awaits everybody, but is ruined because people lose hope? (With of course the final episode finally seeing everybody hoping for and therefore reaching a good end.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054601

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054597
Considering the quality of episode 8, I would say writing so fast didn't really pay off

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054617
I think it's good enough. Certainly better than 6, for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054623
You probably just have low standards then

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054571
not really. I don't really care about your little arguments /jp/, nor do i want to defend anyone. I just think that, whatever the series or author it was, making metaphisycal world a complete mess is very logical since it's not supposed to work the same way that reality in which regular human's mind is rooted in, thus it should be hard to comprehend for such mind
just that.
but it might have been unintentional too, i suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054523
I'm delusional enough to believe that given the poor EP8 reception, Ryukishi has already realized he fucked up big time. So maybe he will try to salvage Umineko with Rei. I know it's not going to happen.
Anyway if Rei is about Battler's ménage à trois with Ikuko and Yasu; then I'll totally read it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054601
well. isn't it basically Higurashi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054649
And how do you think he should salvage it? Would clearly saying "hurr, Kyrie did it" suddenly make it good for you?

[Anonymous No.]

I like his writing. Higurashi was terrible but some of the stuff in Umineko was very clever and interesting, regardless of closure-related problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054640
Weather you're deluded enough to think this is good writing doesn't matter in the first place. The point is that it shouldn't be used as an example of world building when he purposely goes out of way of even making an attempt of creating a consistent world.

R07 writes characters and only characters. His setting is used as nothing more than a tool to introduce these disjointed touhou rejects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054681
Battler Culprit theories are good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054649
>>7054490
About Ougon, he said that "he wants to add the new playable characters more in the line with the latest popularity poll"
There you go. I want Rei to be an enjoyable clusterfuck that delivers, but this is an awful wibe I am getting there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054853
which part of

>not really. I don't really care about your little arguments /jp/, nor do i want to defend anyone. I just think that, whatever the series or author it was, making metaphisycal world a complete mess is very logical since it's not supposed to work the same way that reality in which regular human's mind is rooted in, thus it should be hard to comprehend for such mind
>just that.
>but it might have been unintentional too, i suppose

you do not understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055056
I was saying your post was useless, nobody cares if you think it makes sense or not. It doesn't make good world building.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055070
You still doesnt seem to understand. I never said anything about the quality of his writing. I never said anything about the way of his world building.
what is your point again? nobody cares what i think? Of course, nobody cares what I think, what you think and what this and that anon think too. So? I never gave any opinion in the first place.
If something that is not supposed to be consistent is inconsistent you can't say it's bad because it lacks consistency. Simple as that. You can only go and argue that you don't like having such setting in a story or that it's only an excuse for hiding bad writing skills or whatever, as i said, i don't care, but the fact is a fact.

[Anonymous No.]

So wait, has the culprit been confirmed? Or is it still up in the air?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055369
I thought the end theme was something along the lines of "the culprit doesn't matter"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055377

Seriously? I'm still making my way through EP6 and the mystery isn't solved?

So will Rei be a continuation of Umineko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055386
no one knows whats Rei gonna be

[Anonymous No.]

>>7055369
The culprit of the mysteries should be apparent by the end of 7, the culprits of the real Rokkenjima event are revealed in 8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056287
>the culprits of the real Rokkenjima
You mean Kyrie and Rudolf? and their motive is LOL GOLD? Great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056733
You don't understand.
That's probably the solution to the reality, but Ryukishi left it without a 100% of certainty because the plot of Chiru requires it.
The truth was never revealed to the world, so in the end Beatrice's cat box is still intact, and that in fact was the WHOLE POINT of the plot.
The point was to understand WHY it was better to have the box closed and never revealed.

When I was reading When They Cry 3 for me it was evident that something really nasty happened that day, and that was why Beatrice was so actively trying to make anyone think she was the culprit, even if her real form was exposed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054477
> an as-of-yet-unnanounced collaboration with Studio DEEN.
...It couldn't possibly be Chiru... could it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054649
> I'm delusional enough to believe that given the poor EP8 reception, Ryukishi has already realized he fucked up big time.
No, Ryukishi knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote Episode 8 the way he did. You just have to look at the reaction to Ikuko not revealing the truth to know that he realized many people wouldn't like that sort of ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054477
> as-of-yet-unnanounced collaboration with Studio DEEN.

-How do you know about it then?

-C-chiru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057017
Except people didn't shitstorm due to the lack of answers

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056766
>When I was reading When They Cry 3 for me it was evident that something really nasty happened that day
No shit? Obviously after all those murders, I also expected a grimdark truth. That's precisely why I was somehow disappointed, I wanted some wicked motive not "simply" greed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057092
Well, that's what the game board was also for, the game board tells the mystery of Beatrice, and her life and how fucked up she was, and in fact is kind of a distinction between fiction and reality.
In fact, she was going to kill everyone, but instead, she protected everyone's honor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057039
They did, that's why everyone on the witch hunt community lost any trace of interest on the matter.
Which helped Ange.
Also, like those witch hunters, you just don't get the truth, it is written right there in those 8 episodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057151
I'm talking about real world people, idiot.
Readers didn't shitstorm due to the lack of answer, only because episode 8 was shit and R07 repeatedly insulted the readers while masturbating about his "great" story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057158
>repeatedly insulted the readers
Except he didn't. On the contrary, Featherine\Ikuko ponders how she should finish the story to be enjoyable for readers and praises them for coming to even better solutions than hers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057158
That's why we didn't get to know that Battler was still alive and in fact he was the one writing all those episodes... wait a second...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057172
Readers didn't feel that way, why don't you go read the hundreds reviews or all the post in 2ch from even the most loyal fans? Congratulation you are even more deluded than them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057181
That's because most of them are retarded, so the goats metaphor really fits for those of them.
Other sources also confirm that Japanese fandom is much more shittier and dumber than Western.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057196
>Other sources also confirm that Japanese fandom is much more shittier and dumber than Western.
That's impossible, the average western Umineko fag is a livejournal dwelling whale, you can't make shittier than that.

And your "sources" are probably shit like animesuki or gamefaqs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057202
And an average Japanese fan is a saint and smartest heaven-dweller, right?
Get the fuck out, weeaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057202
In fact this shows how otakus, regardless their nationality, are not able to deal with actual complex story telling.
They prefer fucking Lucky Star and K-On...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057220
Funny, because you were the first one who bashed the Japanese fanbase in favor of Western one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057220
>>7057224
Holy fuck, get the fuck back to /a/ you sperg lords.

[Anonymous No.]

>people who don't even know Japanese pretend to know about the Japanese eroge/VN fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057181
>or all the post in 2ch from even the most loyal fans?
Do you have a link by any chance? I want to laugh a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057227
/jp/ doesn't know shit about actual Japanese fanbase.

>>7057230
Maybe it's you who should go back there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057230
Go back to eat your Pocky

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057252
Average Umineko retard. Accuses people of being a weeaboo when people call his first and only VN shit. Truly hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057257
Average retard. Can't even recognize that that post belongs to a different person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057267
Average retard with no reading comprehension and deduction skills.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Umineko fanbase so fucking awful? Might even be the worst VN fanbase out there along with Type-moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057257
>>7057257
>>7057277
Exceptional retards.

>>7057280
Most things that exist have shitty fanbases. The larger the fanbase, the more apparent this is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057283
I meant:

>>7057257
>>7057267
>>7057277

Guess I can go on the retard list as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057280
>Type-moon
It is an insult to put Type-moon together with dumbass uminekofags. Sure there is a lot of slut thread and power level discussion but at least most type-moon fans accept the games or novels fault.
Most uminekofags are just flat out retarded and usually throw the "stop hating what I like" and proclaimed Ryukishi as a god even when he is shitting all over the umineko readers. Not to mention how bad umineko turned out to be at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057290
>Most uminekofags are just flat out retarded and usually throw the "stop hating what I like" and proclaimed Ryukishi as a god even when he is shitting all over the umineko readers.
It has to do with the fact that Umineko is the only VN they've read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057257
I don't give a shit if you are a weeaboo, I just find hilarious how if I say that otakus REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONALITY cannot handle complex story lines, your response is some weeaboo shitty attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057290
>proclaimed Ryukishi as a god even when he is shitting all over the umineko readers
Indeed, he should be treating his fans with respect, giving them nonsensical fan-service, shitty retarded story lines, and an explicit answer to a riddle...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057308
>otakus REGARDLESS OF THEIR NATIONALITY cannot handle complex story lines
And this is why you're fucking stupid and everything you say should be ignored. Whoever you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057202
I bet livejournal whales couldn't hold a shittier discussion than we're having right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057321
Or maybe he should give us a proper closure to justify those 8 fucking VNs? Umineko retards will try to make any excuses to justify their precious turd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057335
*Face-palm* He gave a proper closure to the story, he revealed all the fucking mysteries, and exposed all the truth... you are just whining because he didn't spelled them out for you, and you still have to use your brain to get it.

[Anonymous No.]

>When They Shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057321
>giving them nonsensical fan-service, shitty retarded story lines, and an explicit answer to a riddle...
That's what he did you know.
Umineko is filled with fanservice, not the look here are some panties kind but fanservice nonetheless.
And nobody could claim the story isn't fucking retarded, the answer to the mystery was also pretty blatant in episode 6 and 7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057328
"You are stupid because of this comment, that is so stupid that I will not even say what is wrong with the comment, but instead express how stupid this comment is and do not deserve any response, even if I'm responding to it by writing this..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057354
Some things are indeed that stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057344
>He gave a proper closure to the story, he revealed all the fucking mysteries, and exposed all the truth.
Ahahaha, says the guy who didn't even play the game apart from reading spoilers on /a/.

>*Face-palm*
Gaia called, they want their retard back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057344
>He gave a proper closure to the story, he revealed all the fucking mysteries, and exposed all the truth.
Ahahaha, says the guy who didn't even play EP8 apart from reading spoilers on /a/. Time to report and hide this and 234343 other umineko spam threads.

>*Face-palm*
Gaia called, they want their retard back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057351
> not the look here are some panties kind but fanservice nonetheless
Like what?, look here!, I shopped Battler face and put some white hair, and now it's young Kinzo!...
>the answer to the mystery was also pretty blatant in episode 6 and 7
And there you have most of the answers, in fact, like Ryukishi himself said, Episode 8 was more like an epilogue.

[Anonymous No.]

Never have I seen such rabid and zealous fanbase as the Umineko fanbase. R07 is a big fucking hack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057351
>answer to the mystery was also pretty blatant in episode 6 and 7
And yet some people still accuse and hate him for not revealing the answer, while claiming to be superior and everyone else to be retarded. Goes to show the iq of haters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057361
One wonders why you didn't just hide it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057368
gtfo back to your moe fanservice shit, umineko is for the deep thinkers who like complex things without pantyshots. only the refined minds like the umineko fanbase can appreciate such beauty

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057370
That's mainly because the answer is FUCKING RETARDED.

Seriously Umineko has to have one of the worst mystery ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057361
>Ahahaha, says the guy who didn't even play EP8 apart from reading spoilers on /a/.
Hahahaha... funny, that would be true in most cases, sadly for you I do know japanese, because *shock* I do live in japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057376

Yeah because it wasn't a mystery. Which is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057376
Maybe you should actually read some real mysteries, especially not the best-sellers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057376
Comparing to what... 20th Century Boy?..

Yeah, that was a good one "Remember that guy we never showed, had no relevance to the story, and only talked about him like 2 times in the whole manga?... he was behind everything"

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057376
What about Suzumiya Haruhi's take on "And Then There Were None"?

That was also good good "It was all a fucking retarded game who put 2 persons lives in danger for no good reason"

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057384
I read more of them than you think.
None ever came close to what happen in Umineko.

>>7057386
You are fucking retarded, they belong in completely different genre.

Funny how you Umineko fags never try to defend its story on its own merits, everytime someone call it shit you either go "HATERS GOTTA HATE" or "LOOK THAT STORY NOBODY MENTIONED BEFORE IS SHITTIER".

Show that even you realize deep down Umineko is simply shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057399
Eeeeerm, aren't you the one saying that "Umineko answer is retarded" without actually saying what is retarded about it?
Why should I "defend Umineko by it's own merits" if you are not even attacking anything concrete about Umineko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057386
>>7057398
Neither Haruhi or 20th century boys focuses on mystery. Umineko is a mystery VN at its core, and yet it fails at mystery. What the fuck, talk about shitty works.

[Anonymous No.]

>Stop liking what I don't like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057411
Then bring examples of those other great mysteries that aren't shit like Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057399
Then, you haven't read enough.

And going by your definition, you can say that anything is shit, if you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.]

The maid and butler are the same person and decide to have a big deadly roulette and play with the lives of 15 people because they can't decide between the ginger, the fatass and the lesbian.
Also you have some greedy parents who may or may have not killed to get some gold.
This is Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

I think at this point we've established once more how retarded Umineko fags can actually be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057426
Some fag who probably reread Umineko everydays shouldn't say shits like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057434
The only thing that we've established is that somehow you have managed to carry on a discussion for half an hour and achieved jack shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057440
Joke's on you, I just got done reading this thread after coming to /jp/ a short while ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057430
You forgot the insestuous nature of the so called maid, the attempted murdered of the insestuous child by his/her adoptive mother, and other non important plot points.
Also, Monster is the retarded story of some crazy blond who kills everyone because he is emo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057442
Well, somebody did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057443
what does monster have anything to do with this thread? or haruhi or 2th century boys for that matter? are you really bringing up some really really unrelated works that aren't even mystery to defend the shittiness of umineko? holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057443
Monster isn't a murder mystery at all, stop being so fucking retarded.

And the incestuous stuff in Umineko is telenovela level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057448
>20th Century Boys isn't a mystery.
You're pretty fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057452
It's not a murder mystery.
It's a mystery but not like Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057457
Well then fucking say what you mean, or else we'll be forced to interpret your retarded statements at face value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057458
Finally came down to this, first insults other works and then HATERS GOTTA HATE.
And nothing to defend Umineko itself, amazing fandom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7054401 make banana cry

LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057463
The hatedom is also fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057452
20th century boys is a thriller with a tinge of mystery, unlike umineko which doesn't even resemble 20th century boys the slightest bit, is fully mystery and focuses on unraveling the true culprit behind the murders. how the fuck can you even compare the two? are you trolling me now or are you just that stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057448
Now I get why you don't like umineko.
You need EVERYTHING spelled out for you.
When I brought Haruhi and 20th Century boys was to make you aware that not every merit to a story relies on the nature of a certain mystery, but the story as a whole. It was also an attempt to get you to tell me some great mystery, that I would be more that glad to read, but you never did.
The Monster reference was to show you how any plot can be summarized in a way that it sound stupid.

Now you get it?, or do you need some more solutions to my unbelievable hard riddle?.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057463
It's the only proper answer to a critic like "it's shit".

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057461
well maybe you should read the work and not the summary before drawing retarded comparison and pulling shit out of your ass, you stupid fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057469
You said that 20th Century Boys wasn't a mystery. Regardless of how you plan to dress this up, this is an undeniably retarded statement.

I have never even played Umineko, but I do know that this thread is a fucking eyesore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057475
I have read 20th Century Boys. You said it wasn't a mystery. You are fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057470
What you tried to do didn't work simply because unlike Haruhi or 20th Century Boy, Umineko is very LARGELY a murder mystery.

And unlike Monster, the story is fucking retarded summarized or not.

Please try to sell me the story of Umineko in a way that isn't completely stupid if you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057481
>And unlike Monster, the story is fucking retarded summarized or not.
Fucking awesome argument there. The fact that they don't respond to arguments like that proof is ironclad proof that the Umineko fanbase is made of retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057476
monster and 20th century boys is as much as mystery as bleach's soul society arc is, for the sake of drawing a retarded comparison if you may

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057469
>is fully mystery
When exactly did you get such an impression?

[Anonymous No.]

OH. MY. GOD. Are umineko fags this stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057487
Your comparison is retarded, I'll give you that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>A single Umineko apologist
>A single hater

Suddlenly they are the whole fandom/ haters.

Fuck you two, if you read a typical Umineko thread most of the fans are aware about how shitty Umineko is.

As for me, I can like something I know is shitty and has many flaws just because I like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057481
Ok, some more SPELLING for you.
I wasn't trying to compare ANY of those, as a matter of fact I like 20th century boys and monster.
Are there still any question about the fucking hard mystery of understanding what I meant including external references in my comments?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057494
my comparison? you mean this guy's
>>7057386
>>7057398
yeah, I agree, they're pretty retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057498
No. I wasn't; in fact, as was extremely obvious, I was actually talking about the retarded comparison that you made.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057499
I made a retarded comparison in the same manner as the guy who compared 20th century boys and haruhi to umineko. are you retarded or can't you read between the lines to get what I mean or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057496
People just like to argue and call each other retards to feel superior. Nothing to see here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057502
Your comparison was fucking retarded. I don't give a shit what retarded implications you were trying to make.

You said 20th Century Boys wasn't a mystery.

You are a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

More like, trolls are trolling umineko fanboys and umineko fanboys get all emotional, loolol

[Anonymous No.]

Monster and 20th Century Boy are thrillers.
Not the same genre, stop comparing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057505
so I'm arguing with someone who doesn't even know what is being talked about, nor does he even try to. grow the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057481
Ok, what about "A complex metaphysical novel that discuses themes of truth, reality, magic, illusions, fiction over a murder mystery story mixed with fantasy with 6 different development variants that is based over a real life event inside the fiction of the story, that is allegedly wrote by someone who supposedly died in the incident"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057510
I know exactly what's being talked about. You are trying to troll Umineko fans, and failing because you are a retard who says retarded things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057514
confirmed for another retarded umineko fanboy, despite saying that he hasn't read umineko earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057516
You said that 20th Century Boys wasn't a mystery.

You are a retard.

No amount of random allegations is going to change this fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057470
I love how nobody read this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057521
whatever you say umineko fanboy. also, you're the guy here

>>7057386
>>7057398

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057497
Or read this

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057528
I'm glad that you've conceded that you are a retard. Saves me time.

Feel free to make as many more unfounded accusations as you like.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a question, is it true that fans of Umineko don't play other VNs?
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057528
He's not, that would be me, and I already explained how I wasn't trying to compare those.
I explained in detail my intentions and that I in fact like those stories, but you just ignored it and continued with your stupidity.
Why does that sounds so fucking familiar to the actual theme of this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057533
Because nobody reads a VN, you fap to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057536
You just fail at sarcasm or whatever you tried to do.
No matter how much you explain yourself, it won't change anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057545
Thank you for your... completely useless comment?

[Anonymous No.]

I really don't know, I was really bummed out by how he ended Umineko. Used to love reading it up to ep 5, then ep 6 on, I just slowly began to lose interest

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057470
>It was also an attempt to get you to tell me some great mystery, that I would be more that glad to read, but you never did.
Not the guy you're replying to, but if you want nice classics you should try:
Gaston Leroux "the mystery of the yellow chamber"
John Dickson Carr "the hollow man", "the burning court"
Then there's of course Agatha Christie, Conan Doyle and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057545
Not really, you just fail at understanding the sarcasm.
Also, why don't you bring any concrete point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057224
>In fact this shows how otakus, regardless their nationality, are not able to deal with actual complex story telling.

Newsflash, kid: making your story hard to comprehend isn't a good thing.

Especially if you do it out of incompetence, like R07.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057582
How terrible and incompetent, he made a MYSTERY MURDER GAME hard to comprehend...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057588
Next thing you know, he's gonna do a puzzle with more than 2 pieces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057588
>>7057596
Umineko isn't hard to understand, heck ShKanon was one of the most popular theory by episode 2.

But it's just such a disappointing answer people refused to believe in it till the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>umineko
>hard to comprehend
Thread's getting even more stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057608

But that's what
>actual complex story telling
means: the thing is hard to understand, and it's implied to somehow be a good thing instead a sign of lack of literary talent.

True talent seeks clarity, not obfuscation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057588
>he made a MYSTERY MURDER GAME hard to comprehend.
>hard to comprehend.
Retarded Shkanon speculated and 100% confirmed by ep6.
Uminekofags apologist say that there is still hope.
Ep7 came around, shkanon confirmed to be retarded personality of Yasu because of some retarded kids' promise.
Uminekofags apologist say that there is still hope.
Ep8 came around, although I havent play it yet the 50points it got at EGS said it all.
What are the uminekofags apologist gonna say now?
Umineko Rei will redeem the story?

To summarize, great potential start and music, horrible execution and retarded logic and ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057636
Lulz, that's ALL you got from umineko?, the early discovery of the culprit of the mystery by you and your friends, and then stupidly hoping to somehow not be true?
If that's all you cared about Umineko, then I'm not surprised you didn't liked it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057622
You really can't discern complex from convoluted, now do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057636
Also, I never said that the mystery was HARD. I said that the story was complex. And it is.
Then some fag interpreted that as saying that just the mystery is the story, forgetting like, 90% of the plot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057608
Tell that to the people who failed to comprehend it for years and angrily argued with the people who had comprehended it to a better standard than they had.

People seem to think the failure to "comprehend" is entirely on the reader. They get offended when it's implied it's difficult to comprehend something they see as shit. So their thought process goes like this:
-Umineko is stupid
-I am not stupid
-I should be able to comprehend a stupid thing if I am not stupid
-Therefore Umineko is not difficult to comprehend

Ignoring the fact that you can have a bad work because it's so convoluted and poorly constructed, making it difficult to comprehend.

[Anonymous No.]

delicious tears of everyone are delicious.

I'm sooo glad i revived this thread from page 15 yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit this thread is horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't see what is so hard to understand about Umineko, both the meta and mystery part.
I do think it's pretty shitty though

[Anonymous No.]

What's the Meta-world then? Ange's delusions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057725
Battler's journey into his memories. His interactions with Beato are him looking at her two message bottles and trying to figure out what she's trying to say and who she is. He first misses the point and tries to just say that although he doesn't remember what happened, it can't have been magic like the bottles claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057718
>>7057725
>>7057730

why can't people understand that nothing in this story is certain so you can't answer questions like this and claim you are right ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057759
Why can't you understand that if nothing is certain in a story, there's no point in reading said story? If nothing in Umineko is certain, I can pretend the story is actually War and Peace.

No, some things in Umineko are left uncertain. There's a big difference between some things and everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057759
I guess they think that with the info at hand you can deduce the most "logical" explanation and then claim it's right as there aren't any other options.

Whatever floats your boat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057730
Except you must know the truth to write the stories, so he can't not remember.

Not to mention that meta-world is real to some degree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057766
>Why can't you understand that if nothing is certain in a story, there's no point in reading said story?
Sometimes the journey is greater than the goal/end.
Disagree or agree w/e
>opinions

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057766
yeah, i suppose. But it's more like:
>No, some things in Umineko are certain. >There's a big difference between some things and everything.

but i would the the meta part is the most uncertain of all, you know..

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057800
*i would say

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057766
>Why can't you understand that if nothing is certain in a story, there's no point in reading said story?

i..don't really agree. I like it more when some things are left for reader to figure out. Though the fact that it creates debates full of hate is a big downside.

[Anonymous No.]

I think some people have taken Umineko way too seriously. It's just a VN, it's supposed to be only entertainment.
Of course, it's always more fun to rage and call everyone a faggot...

[Anonymous No.]

this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057842
well. I partially agree, the fact is there is some serious overanalysation going on in Umineko fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

Successful troll is successful, R07.
He actually managed to write a story so convoluted that it actually left people shouting/baww'ing at each other about the possibility of developing theories.

"This or that happened."
"No, you can't say that happened because this or that."
"You both are wrong. The actual truth means you can't be sure of anything."

The discussions progressively escalated in meta, right from the start of EP1, until the end, where we are left talking about if we can actually know how meta is the meta. And Oh Coincidence! Umineko itself is about the degrees of meta.

Now, I don't know if he's a mastermind or a poor writer with a ridiculous amount of luck, but he did something incredible. I guess the first 6 episodes are the largest reader-bait in history.
And to top it all, the first 5 episodes moved my soul like no other story, even if it's just a VN from an amateurish japanese writer, and to this day I still love the island and curse its fate.

Bravo, R07. Bravo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057842
This. VNs can't have any depth of story, or any real discoverable meaning or impact. They're entertainment, guys. What next, going to analyze the issue of war as it is tackled in call of duty, or how masterfully the latest anime depicts timeless struggles of the human race?

If you want that, go read a book already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057952
Fucking retarded, one media isn't inherently better or deeper than another just because

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057952
You are incredibly retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057959
>>7057966
And that is the joke. I can't count the number of times someone has implied something stupid, but been left alone aside from someone extracting that point and stating it blatantly just to point how out stupid it is.

Then that someone is called a retard and fucking stupid, the guy who originally made the point is left alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057980
216 posts, 53 times 'retard' or 'retarded' is mentioned, go figure

[Roll !!A2GUsD9g5zS No.]

Oh guys, I laughed all the way down to the last post. Shitty fans fighting over shitty crying seagulls. Made MAH DAI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058009
Because this is what umineko really is.
Come on, pads, roleplaying, multiple personality disorder, imaginary murder, fake murder, listening to other people sleeping, having home incestuous relationship with your cousin bros and cousin sis and much more retarded shit happening just to create a hard mystery murder?
None of these shit will fly in a serious works. It is a joke that so many people take this seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

This is what happened when your average F/SN fags try to read something slighty more deep

I also lol'ed after people started calling Umineko garbage only after ep vi and after it got popular, how many of you fags actually read the first four novels and didn't skip them because of the anime?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058163
Because this is what <insert vn here> really is.

porn, sluts, virgin that can came multiple times during a story, harem, hax, plot device, heroines, tsundere, genderbender historical figure, badly water porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058167
I hope this isn't a serious post for your sake.

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko is 7/10 as average at best.
It's not the worst VN ever but anyone who call it the best obviously didn't read much
Why do some people obsess so much over it I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058184

But it's the truth.

Jesus, just look how many people still don't get the truth, or completely ignore half of the cast characterization in favor of the last episodes

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058198

I liked the first episode of the VN. The rest was shit, the anime was also shit. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058178
>porn, sluts, virgin that can came multiple times during a story, harem, hax, plot device, heroines, tsundere, genderbender historical figure, badly water porn
All of these are good.
Contrary to popular belief, I play EROge because of the porn. Having a good and interesting plot is a huge bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058198
People who ignore the truth or reject it are usually the fans themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058219

Can't you just read a 5 minute doujin?

Do you need to go trough a 40 hours story with like 3 badly written sex scene for fap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058228

That's what /jp/ believes

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058232
I dont fap to random character that I hardly know.
Umineko has no redeeming quality besides the plot and story.It failed hard on both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058236
This is what I believe and I have seen it with my own eyes.
That's why you fags rejected ShKanontrice for so long, people who proclaimed it was the truth were only casual readers, the huge fans all went NO THERE IS NO WAY RYUUKISHI-SAMA WILL DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
Same for the fiction theory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058198

The only truth here is that R07 himself doesn't have a solution for his stupid bullshit so he's just throwing a smokescreen and mumbling.

[Anonymous No.]

The story is bad, and the main villain is boring has a bad motivation for everything. At least takano was a villain and was insane. I had to exit the game out every 5 seconds for ep7 because it was so fucking boring when the story chapters came up. Kinzos story was good though, and everything after the chapters was good. but the chapters took up the whole game so in the end, ep7 felt like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058239

The music?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058252
>foreshadowed pratically every fucking twists, including the ending
>doesn't have a solution

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058191
I agree with you, I wish people would stop being blinded by shit.

Umineko was good. It was not a god send of literature, it was meant for you to read and enjoy yourself, which I personally did.

I believe people who obsess over it are just going through the phase of baby's first VN. People who talk shit about it are just tired of these ass wipes sperging over the novel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058262

Cooking up a bunch of self-referential bullshit that kinda looks like it makes sense if you squint and have enough buyer's remorse is the easiest thing in the world.

Nobody has been able to offer a solution for Umineko that didn't involve ignoring at least half of everything that happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058256
The music is good but I didnt play umineko for the music.
I expected believable mystery, ingenius murder mystery, believable and unique motive for the murder.
What I got? The cry of a genderless boy or girl because of love and an out of character husband and wife duo that went batshit insane over jew golds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058294
>The cry of a genderless boy or girl because of love

I would have believed a promise from when they were 12 years old could have some impact on the personality of the characters.
I would have believed a character going batshit insane due to love and all that blah we were told about in EP7.
But making the promise from a TWELVE YEARS OLD KID the motive for the WHOLE thing? I know it's Japan, and kids there have powers, live in a rape utopia, and can stop a military unit with friendship. But Yasu was too much.

I still love EPs 1-5, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058316
It's not the motive itself. It's just what has started all this.
Other roles\personalities and relationships that come with them are just as important for her, so the motive is not only about the promise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058316

It's not the motive, you fucktard

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058337
>>7058328
So, she blows up a fucking island. One would have to be quite insane to do that, even more if it involves killing all your 'family'.
And Yasu is batshit fucking out of her mind... why? Oh, right, because of Battler's pony.

Motive
–noun
1. something that causes a person to act in a certain way, do a certain thing, etc.; incentive.

Of course lots of shit happened to her, but I dare you to tell me Battler's pony was not the key.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058374
What I really think takes the case for bullshit is that we're supposed to sympathize with her.

Uhh, no, I want her to be killed for the villain that she is! Why, exactly, is Bernkastel painted as "Pure evil" for showcasing this fact?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058337
>It's not the motive, you fucktard

That was said with such confidence that you've probably got all this figured out. Let's hear your better informed version. Go on, spit it out.

You can't.

[Anonymous No.]

definitely. he's a great writer when he concentrates on psychological thriller genre and doesn't try to pull off some weird shit like Umineko. also, his MILFs are delicious. i'd read another Umineko only for the hot moms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058445

There's nothing to figure out, she literally said.

She's said it, she's a pitiable person with gender and dissociative disorder that felt fate was mocking again and decided to follow the epitaph ceremony.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw almost every Umineko thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058294
Don't forget that big amounts of obliviousness are used for this ending, also, the credit card could have had no money

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057290
>>7057937
+1

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057290
> but at least most type-moon fans accept the games or novels fault.

LOL YOU WISH

You have no idea how many believe F/SN is a masterpiece and epic!!11!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058619

Someone greet you with 100 kg of gold and you doubt the credit card?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058709
Everything about it would make me suspicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050034
Only if he will use more of dem MILFs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058374
If you remember from Episode 4, Beatrice herself stated that the pony -- or rather, Battler forgetting it -- was only one of the contributing factors, and was not in itself the main reason; it merely created an opportunity, so to speak.

So it's more like Battler forgetting his promise was the creation of a spot for the key to be placed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058749
Eh, in defense of R07, I'd remind y'all that the siblings had been thinking about the gold for years. I'm sure a part of them all was going insane for the money from the start. Then they finally find the gold... that's like opening a floodgate, madness galore.
It's still just stretched, but just a bit.

>>7058861
Not discrediting what you say, but thinking logically, if the fucking idiot Battler hadn't forgotten, Rokkenjima -certainly- wouldn't have happened. Yasu not going crazy, therefore no Kanon, therefore no yuri Jessica, therefore no internal conflict, therefore Shannon marries Fat Jooji. Therefore, no Rokkenjima.
It's a catastrophe based on a 12-year-old kid's promise. I could believe the promise, but not if it's the fucking whole thing.

In fact, remember this red:
>Because of your sin, people die.
>Due to your sin, a great many humans on this island die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058990

Actually, wasn't Kyrie the one to come up with the extorting Krauss idea in first place?

So lolgold Kyrie is not that much out of the blue. And of course as anon said the siblings were after the gold for years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058990 sin
Ryukushi keeps using that word...

Even in buddhistic tradition (see: Haibane Renmei) the concept of sin is something against yourself.
Battler's behavior is perfectly justified by his life being messy, I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059011

It's not. Forgetting such a thing to the point you won't even remember when stated in your face is not his life being messy.

And even considering he didn't gave it any importance.
Why was Battler's life messy? Because he was butthurt about his father forgetting a woman too quickly. Oh the irony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058990
Motive is about intention of a killer, not just a cause of some event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059023
>Forgetting such a thing to the point you won't even remember when stated in your face is not his life being messy.

Actually, yes, yes it is! Stupid umineko fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059026

This.
By that logic, the cliff is also the motive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059011
Wiki says a sin is an act that violates a known moral rule.
I don't actually care for the definition, if Beato wants to say it was a sin.
And yes, Battler forgetting is more than justified. I myself am a romantisto, but it's a promise from a kid, for God's sake. You can't make that the basis for the backbone of your story. Even more so when many central characters are adults. I could accept that in some shounen story, but not in goddamned Umineko.

>>7059007
Indeed anon, Kyrie came up with that, IIRC.
Maybe she was a ruthless bitch going after the money after all!

[Anonymous No.]

You know, it would be nice to have a discussion about Umineko plot that doesn't end up with people calling each other retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059026
>>7059057
Well, maybe "motive" isn't the word, I admit.
But come on. The Heart R07 kept going on about was some mindless childhood event. Isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059059
It's not about anything romantic. That's why I laugh when the Japanese fandom portrays Beato as some sort of Battler stalker when it's the complete opposite. Whenever Battler seems to be falling in love with her, she pushes him away because all she wants is simple acknowledgment. She never planned for Battler to come back and gallop away with her on a white horse, she just wanted to believe she was worth remembering as a person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059085
That's not possible. R07 made it like that.
Or maybe it is possible, given certain circumstances.
Maybe I should blow up something in the hopes of a non-retard-related discussion having place.
It sure isn't possible on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059053

No, it isn't. And unlike you, I will save the ad hominen.

It's not just he didn't remembered the promise, he doesn't remember Shannon or anything related to her. I wouldn't call it a sin, but Battler was a dick, at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059128
You have a point, but my argument stands.
Not that I want to get anything out of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059133
Except he did, moron. Now you're just blatantly making shit up, as expected from an Uminefag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059133
>Battler was a dick
Judging by the ending of ep8, he* keeps being a dick.

*Well, whatever new personality he invented for himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059133
But still, 6 years passed, and 12 is a stupid age. Also, Battler is quite self-centered, I think he's the kind of dick to just forget about what he does if it doesn't sparkle and shine.
It is shown to him quite explicitly, but... I don't know if I wouldn't just forget that shit permanently

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059169
You're fucking retarded.
If he had remembered in time, nothing would have had happened.
I bet you're thinking that Beato in the end of ep8 was real too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059194
Battler remembered everything except her and how close they used to be. That's a pretty dick move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059218
I'd say it's possible he just barely remembered his cousins, and made shit up on the fly.
"Ah, yeah... I remember when X... shit was funny".

On the other hand, he remembered NOTHING about Shannon, even when he enjoyed the novels so much.
Yeah, it's quite stretched after all.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>7059169

Can you stop just denying whatever I say and calling me Uminekofag and argue like a person?

He doesn't. I haven't been reading EP1 because the voice patch recently, and he doesn't fuck remember about her, he is all "Shannon? ah that maid is still here?" "Oh Shannon but you live at here? lol didn't knew" Not for a single second it's metioned that Shannon used to play with them, he treats her just as a maid. The picture you get about their relationship is not even similar to what EP7 shows, romantic feelings aside.

>>7059194

Yeah but he can remember every small thing about how 3 years old Maria was. Whatever this means.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, I will. In fact, umineko EP8 was so bad that I deleted tsubasa just after I finished the game, but he did a great job in the beginning and in higurashi.

Also, I wonder if there's a correlation between the fact I found umineko worse since EP6, and BT's death. And I must read his next work to find out.

[Anonymous No.]

Battler is incompetent, proclaimed in red. Why do people still wonder about him forgetting some petty trifles is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059253
That's because I doubt they actually had a relationship. Shannon is a crazy fucking bitch, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059330

Shannon being a crazy bitch would only change the "in love" part, the fact is they were in good terms as friends at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059379
No, filthy maids are not friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059245

She met her once a year on the conference,

Battler is just the kind of person that liked to tell bullshit to made great impression on girls, her mother died and shit happened.

Clair even said herself, she was a dreamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059580
>She met her once a year on the conference,

And his cousins? Oh wait, I'm sure the Ushiromiyas visited each other all the time.
And he remembered her enough back then to buy her mistery books and stuff.

Also, it wasn't Asumu's death, just the hypocrite fact of his daddy marrying too soon for his taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059704
Asumu's death+his father marrying soon+a new sister
he couldn't forgive his father for forgetting her so soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059704
He never bought her a goddamned thing. He never liked the mystery genre to begin with! She's just a whiny bitch who decided to project some white knight fantasies onto a guy she had a crush on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059881
He bought her books, genius.

[Anonymous No.]

"She" was in love with both Jessica and George.
And then she suddenly became buttmad when Battler come back.
None of you realize how stupid this scenario actually is?
Do you uminekofags really accept such bullshit?

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when do you think ep8 will be finished translated? summer?

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>>7059952
To add to that, she was incredibly young when Batler left, and even then it was obvious he never disliked her.

And George loved her, and was about to propose.
Thing is, people usually don't go crazy all like that when old boyfriends from when they were 12 suddenly pops up a hefty 6 years later.

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Eagerly await his next awesome story.

>>7057399
Or maybe it's because your a troll who would hate it no matter what. I've done the whole "point out how stupid" you faggots are. All that happens is that you yell your retarded point louder.

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>>7059937
How do we know that? If we're supposed to discount every other fucking thing about every other goddamn character(Rosa as an obvious example) then surely her own motivations and "truth" come into question as well, no?

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>>7059952

She was always in loved with Battler
She latter fell for George with her Shannon persona, it was the chance to left Rokkenjima, forget about all this shit and never come back.

Her feeling for Jessica are nowhere that strong, it's just mildly bisexuality united to gender disorder, and that's why Kanon always lose

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>>7062328
So you mean to say that you are perfectly happy with how DID works in Umineko?
I dont.

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>>7059959
50% test patch should be out in two weeks or so.

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>>7062413
Sauce?
No update on their website.

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>>7059966
>Thing is, people usually don't go crazy all like that when old boyfriends from when they were 12 suddenly pops up a hefty 6 years later.
She went crazy over the years. But it's still stupid.

Now, I need some clarification of something. I suppose it's obvious, but I kinda forgot many things after raging due to the 'solution':
Somebody threw the bottles with some of the EPs into the sea on October, right? With Maria's handwriting and all that.
But how could somebody write 300+ pages of mystery bullshit so fast, considering she didn't know Battler was coming back until October 4?
I think I should know this, but blah.

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>>7062413
Not a 50%, but just compatibility patch.

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>>7062456
>Maria's handwriting
It wasn't Maria's, but Beatrice's handwriting. Maria's diary, that Ange possess, contains a sample of that writing, so witch hunter was able to identify it. This handwriting is also on money envelopes, sent few days before the conference.

>But how could somebody write 300+ pages so fast
Maybe they were written beforehand, but we have no confirmation on that.
Maybe they contain not exactly the same stories as we were shown.

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>>7062346

It's not DID, how personalties worked was fucking explained in Umineko like 500 times

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>>7059296
Wait, what? Source in this pic, please.

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>>7063020
Umineko.

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>>7063056

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>>7063104
No, seriously.

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>>7063222
I know it's umineko, little fuckhead. What I want to know is who is translating (or maybe porting?) the ps3 version.

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>>7063469
>too retarded to recognize a joke
>first day on /jp/, doesn't know about the project
Just go back to 2-ch.ru where your scum belongs.

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>>7063585
Actually, it's not my first day in /jp/ but I did had a lot of time, like 3 months, without coming here, so I hadn't heard about the project yet. Problem? Also, I'm not a russian livejournal-lurking whale. Those belong in animesuki.