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I wish to move out of my parents house.

I'm 20 years old, never had a job, and I dropped out of high school.

How do I do it?

>> No.7384140

>>7384134

You get a fucking job.

>> No.7384142

...You do know which board this is right?

Anyway, the real answer is, if you don't have money, make money. Sucks, but you need a job.

>> No.7384143

>>7384140

HOw?

>> No.7384166

Mine bitcoins OP

>> No.7384167

>>7384143
I'm not >>7384140, but see if your parents know anyone who's hiring, or you can go back for your GED, which will make applying to jobs a lot easier.
Alternatively, sign up for disability and say you're autistic.

>> No.7384175

Open a portal as soon as possible

>> No.7384177

>>7384166

Reported for advertising pyramid scheme.

>> No.7384183

You could probably make a decent amount of money sucking dick.

>> No.7384210

buy lottery tickets till you win the grand prize.

>> No.7384217

Predict when the next apocalypse will happen and be a millionaire.

>> No.7384226

You can stay with me OP, but you'd need to be a good trap and dress up as a maid. Also, expect dickings. Lots of dickings.

>> No.7384325

Ask your parents to pay for it.

>> No.7384338

>>7384143
Get your GED, then apply for retail or other entry-level work.

>> No.7386907

bump..

>> No.7386949

>>7384167

>Alternatively, sign up for disability and say you're autistic.

How do I do this?

I try to sign up but then my anxiety kicks in and I never submit the form, I don't know if it would ever work and I'd look like an idiot and waste someone's time

>> No.7386990

>>7386949
Perfect, one more person leeching off the government.

Here's what you do:
1. Go get your ged
2. Go to a local community college
3. Sign up for your lpn/lvn, or any other vocational certificate.

>> No.7387016

Are you me OP?

>> No.7387087

Join the Air Force. Be a member for 4 years. Learn computer shit and make a living managing networks and building computers for idiots. Trade stocks to make money on the side. Learn Mandarin during those years and teach English on the side as well. By the age of 25 you should have an above decent standard of living. Find a roomate/girlfriend/gay lover and split the costs with them for maximum comfort. Or you can still live with your mom.

>> No.7387100

JOINT THE ARMY, TODAY!

>> No.7387135

>>7387100
No, join the Chair Force! It's the perfect place for an anon.

>> No.7387147

Marry with a old lady who just want someone to talk and let her forget of the lonelyness

>> No.7387148

>>7384134
get unemployment money / welfare

>> No.7387163

>People suggesting to join the Air Force for a guy who dropped out

Yeeeahh...Don't nowadays they have High School as a REQUIREMENT for joining the Military? Or they put High School Graduates higher on the list and those who aren't lower on the list?

It was one of those i'm pretty sure.

>> No.7387171

>>7387148
Get a few people to do this with and share a shitty little apartment.

>> No.7387177

>>7387163
Get a GED then. Problem solved.

By the way, anyone on /jp/ in the military?

>> No.7387215

i was a neet for a few years until i joined the army. it's annoying and tiring and didn't have any free time. i jumped boat after collecting some $$$. i'm a neet again and it's so relaxing.

>> No.7387226

>>7387171
or you could just live alone...

>> No.7387268

>>7387215
/jp/ and military are two things I can never imagine together never mind even college. I would just say OP should attempt to get a average retail job and even if he does that probably won't be enough to live on his own anywhere.

>> No.7387279

Why the hell do you want to move out? I plan on living here until forever.

>> No.7387284

>>7387268
people will do desperate things for money

>> No.7387294

>>7387279
I hope I can live here forever but that most likely won't happen.

>> No.7387363

>>7387294
All things come to an end. Best to prepare for it before it happens.

>> No.7387401

>>7387268
Probably this, the best I could find was a art-time retail job earning minimum wage and I really don't think I can make ends meet with that.

>> No.7387420

>>7387401
Retail is soul crushing work. Best to get out of there ASAP.

>> No.7387542

>>7384134
I'm in the exact same situation. I'll be 20 in four months. Due to procrastination I haven't went to get my GED.

Google Acing_the_GED_Exams.pdf I haven't read it yet due to procrastination but it might help you.

>> No.7387561

>>7387542
I got my GED when I was 17 and dropped out of HS. It was a really easy test if you ever took SATs or AP tests. Even if you didn't, it should still be pretty easy.

>> No.7387569

Work at McDonalds for a year and become Assistant Manager (Very Easy. Their whole purpose is churning out managers to open more restaurants). You'll immediately start making 42-45k, far more than enough to live comfortably alone.

>> No.7387591

>>7387569
That doesn't sound too bad for some anons.

>> No.7387604

>>7384167
This

>> No.7387640

I want autism bucks like Sudo.

>> No.7387646

>I'm 20 years old
OK.
>never had a job
That's OK too, I guess.
>I dropped out of high school
You don't do this stuff.

>> No.7387650

>>7387640
How much does he get per month?

>> No.7387656

>>7387177
The Air Force doesn't accept GEDs without a waiver, which is very rare especially now since they aren't recruiting much anymore.

If you didn't graduate and you didn't get over 80 on the ASVAB you shouldn't even bother with the military in my opinion.

>> No.7387686

>>7387656
Your typical 'neet', hell, even actual neets, wouldn't be able to get past basic training anyways. If you're not in shape, you get kicked out.

>> No.7387692

>>7387569
Assistant Managers make more like 30k, and they also have work a lot of overtime at most restaurants.

At Target I started at $10 an hour with $14-$15 being my raise cap. It's much better pay and work than McDonalds at all levels. Retail is definitely the way to go if you want a low skills job that you can live off of.

Another good one would be becoming an EMT/Paramedic, they can make 50k+ fairly easily and getting certified only takes 3 months. They mostly spend their time on call so you'll get a lot of time to take it easy, especially if you work a 24/48 schedule.

>> No.7387696

If you get a GED it should be pretty easy for you to get some basic jobs, it's evidence that you aren't pants-on-head retarded (well at least in the context of other grunt employees). For working at like, Safeway or Starbucks etc the employers are specifically looking for people aren't overqualified because someone with like, a biochemistry degree will probably quit at the drop of a hat after a short while, being more of a waste of time for the company to train and get comfortable with the job than anything else. So, with just a GED it's easier to get some simple job.

Also if you go to a local city college (which is far, far, far cheaper than a uni, and you can get in if you have a GED), you can pick up a certification for some specialized trade/skill, like becoming an electrician (electricians can actually make good money and there is always a need for them, since electrical equipment always needs repairing eventually, or you could specialize in installations instead etc).

Alternatively you could major in English, get a certificate and go teach English in Japan. It doesn't pay that well and there's lot of other issues with doing it, but it does pay enough for subsistence there and hey, you get to live in Japan and are not expected to closely bond/interact with the people there anyway, so that's something to aspire to. Downside is usually those gigs last like 2 years, it's much harder to become a permanent resident teaching there but I do believe it's possible.

>> No.7387705

>>7387561
I remember the AP tests were pretty easy, so that was encouraging. It's been so long though. I can't recall most of what was taught, so the fear is still there. but either way I should at least try the GED test when I stop procrastinating

>> No.7387710

>20 years old
>Still don't have a GED

Dude, what? Come on. The entire point of that thing is to get it instead of bothering with high school. I got it as soon as Idaho would legally allow me to. You've only hurt yourself by putting it off

Go fucking study up for that shit, complete it, then go pick up a trade at a local community college. I'm finishing an online electrician course and then taking a lineman course at a local community college. You have any idea how much electricians and linesman are paid for some of the simplest fucking jobs?

Look at what courses your local community college offers. Don't fucking waste time with formal colleges and don't even think of getting a student loan. That shit is a trap that will place you squarely in the 9th circle of debt hell

>> No.7387729

>>7386949
>I'd look like an idiot

that's not really a bad thing for getting your asperger diagnosis

>> No.7387734

>>7387710
>Don't fucking waste time with formal colleges and don't even think of getting a student loan. That shit is a trap that will place you squarely in the 9th circle of debt hell

This.

The one thing you do NOT want to do is take out student loans you'll be paying off for the rest of your life. You will definitely not be taking it easy, ever again.

>> No.7387744

>>7387692
Fifteen an hour most certainly isn't enough to live alone on, at least not around here (mid-atlantic.) Maybe if you had 2-3 roommates, but have fun when one of them inevitably bounces on you.

>> No.7387756

>>7387650
i'm not sudo but i get about 800 euros a month
that is with ripping of the government for 300 euros rent although i don't pay any rent
400-500 euros is the normal rate

>> No.7387758

>>7387744
Well it is here in the West, I can rent a room for $200-$300 and a 2 bedroom apartment in the city is $700. Unless you spend $1700 on food, you should be able to make it. If you can't live on retail wages where you live, maybe you should consider moving to a better area.

I don't pay any rent though because I live off my mom. She doesn't even know I work, I have just been autistically hoarding my money for almost a year now as she pays for my food and everything.

>> No.7387766

>>7387758

Where the fuck do you live?

>> No.7387773

>>7387758
> She doesn't even know I work, I have just been autistically hoarding my money for almost a year now as she pays for my food and everything.

That's awful, Anon. Really. You should treat your mother a bit better than that, I should think

>> No.7387787

>>7387766
Salt Lake City.

It always blows my mind the prices people in the east pay for rent when we have deals like this
http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/apa/2398434516.html

>> No.7387791

>>7387758
Wait a second there, you work and your mother doesn't even know you do? How do you manage to pull that off? Living the dream.

>> No.7387798

>>7387773
I'm afraid she'll want to kick me out if she finds out I could live independently. I'm going to spend that money on tuition, and I wouldn't have that opportunity if I had to pay for myself.

I just thought it sounded funny. I get a kick out of having a secret job.

>> No.7387802

Heh, you all sound like getting a job is an easy tasks, huh.
But why is that I, who is currently working on my master's degree in the one of the four top university departments of the top university of my country, receiving student scholarship, have next to non chances of having a job...
I guess it's because, those who are motivated to get a job will get one, those who aren't - won't, dependles on where they graduated from etc. Just as simple as this...

>> No.7387806

>>7387758
I am officially envious now. I thought the point of higher minimum wages there was to offset the higher minimum cost of living; apparently not, if a 2-bed is only 700. Singles are nearly double that if you don't want to live in gang zones.

>> No.7387840

>>7387798
You might want to enroll soon before she kicks you out out of spite for hoarding cash instead of immediately going forward with schooling.

>> No.7387842

>>7387802
>But why is that I, who is currently working on my master's degree in the one of the four top university departments of the top university of my country, receiving student scholarship, have next to non chances of having a job...

It's not entirely your fault, Anon. It's just a sign of the times. Colleges and universities don't equal guaranteed jobs like they did thirty years ago. In my opinion, the only point of even going to a formal college nowadays is to shmooze up the professors and make contacts to try to pursue your dream job. I imagine that most of you, like me, don't exactly enjoy socialization, but there's no other option when it comes to trying to get a job. And, especially if you're in college or university, you're wasting your time if you don't try to make all the contacts you can while you're there

Companies don't want diplomas anymore, it feels like. They want people that they know are capable. They want people they can trust, and building up a healthy number of references is the only way to show them you're worth hiring, these days

>> No.7387859

I am feeling overwhelmed by deja vu.

>> No.7387868

I'm in the process of getting a job. I have a feeling that it'll be like hell.

>> No.7387869

>>7387842
Well, that is true.
It just saddens me that all that hard work was for naught. No easy way around heh, can't get far just by following the flow...

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7387891

Get on SSI, apply for section 8, and move out. Get food stamps while you're at it. For bonus points, find a town far away that looks good and do it there so nobody will disturb you. If you don't do it, that money will be spent blowing little brown girls up.

>> No.7387919

>>7387734

I'd say debt in general is something to be avoided. You'll need a credit card because some places require one for business (most chain hotels and such) but I wouldn't use it otherwise. In general, never take out a car loan for more than 48 months and never take out a mortgage worth more than 3x your annual income. Also, unless you really have a reason for a house, apartments are a better fiscally speaking.

>> No.7387952

>>7387919

Also, always get a fixed rate mortgage. Any other type can (and as plenty of home buyers have found out these past couple of years, will) get you fucked over so fast that it'll make you vomit up financial instruments from your bank raping your ass.

>> No.7387993

Depressing thread. If I ever happen to become successful in life, I shall remember /jp/ and try to find you guys jobs.

>> No.7388014

>>7387993
Just find me some sweet poison that tastes like grape and makes sure I can't feel it eating my body from the inside out.

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7388101

Always a perfect book for these threads. And y'know,I can't help but wonder what i'll be doing when i'm older thanks to these threads. Its one thing to get started but its another to keep doing it for 20 years straight.

>> No.7388112

>>7388014
Don't do it anon. We love you.

>> No.7388128

>>7388101
I love that manga and Fukumoto's other works. A good manga to learn something from.

>> No.7388131

>>7388101

The ending was spoiled for me, but I still want to read it. It seems unfair, life does. Everyone has dreams but few succeed even when they do their best. I wish I could change that, but I doubt I could.

>> No.7388144

>>7387569
Does this really work?

>> No.7388151

>getting a job
>2011

what the fuck. help

>> No.7388219

>>7388151
Volunteer. We know it's a pointless waste of time and effort, but it's the only way for employers to pick out those that actually want to work.

>> No.7388224

>>7388219

Internships help too if you're at a college or something.

>> No.7388228

>>7387744
>Fifteen an hour most certainly isn't enough to live alone on

I don't think this is true in most places. What kind of spendthrift lifestyle are you leading?

When I first went out on my own, I was making about $10.40/hour, and I still had money left over each month. I get that different regions have different cost of living expenses, but it's more than feasible for someone who doesn't buy figures or go out drinking.

>> No.7388242

>>7388144
Getting a job and gradually earning more as you get more skilled? Yes. That's how our economy works here. If you're a white male.

>> No.7388263

>>7388219
Good idea. I need to find some websites that will hook me up with some volunteer work.

>> No.7388269

>>7387646
This.

What kind of mindset do you have to even drop out of something like high school? People just don't take high school dropouts seriously.

Anyway like most people here have said, getting a GED is your first step towards doing anything meaningful beyond being a disposable factory worker or a retail slave.

>> No.7388281

>>7388269
Not OP, but I'm in his exact same position. I dropped out because I failed all of of my courses because I am fucking stupid, and I was completely miserable and wanted to kill myself.

>> No.7388286

>>7388281
Should have gone through with it.

>> No.7388288

>>7388269
I dropped out because of extreme bullying.

>> No.7388294

>>7388144
Yes, but they don't tell you this because 'mcjob lol.' Tell them you're serious and they'll get you paid managerial training for a year.

>>7388228
Fifteen an hour is about 1.7k per month after taxes. Rent is 1.2k before utilities. 200 more for those. Add 200 for car insurance. Good luck doing EVERYTHING ELSE with 100 dollars.

>> No.7388296

>>7387869

Well.. it certainly won't pay off exactly as you thought it would, but you can still make use of the time you've spent. Socialize with your professors, engage in whatever school activities you may have, be the go-to guy for when people need help with whatever your area of expertise is. Whatever you do, just make yourself *known*

Your hard work *will* be for naught if you don't use the time you have at your university to socialize, I feel. I know it's not exactly what people like us specialize in, but thems the breaks, I guess

For what it's worth, good luck Anon

>> No.7388297

>>7388281
>failes all courses.
>In high school

dude...

>> No.7388311

>>7388297
Yeah, I'm stupid. I haven't bothered taking my GED test because I doubt I could pass it anyway. Especially the essay part.

>> No.7388312

>>7388269

A very pessimistic one. I almost dropped out because of it, I don't know how I managed to graduate.

>> No.7388330

>>7388269

>What kind of mindset do you have to even drop out of something like high school?

1.Its boring

2.Shit takes too long

3.Fucking credits pissing me off

4.There are DEFINITELY things there I would never pass

In my case,I did it for 4 because of math classes. No its not something I can motivate myself through,such is my stubbornness towards the subject. I was passing pretty much everything else though,not like it matters now however.

>> No.7388346

I dropped out of High School because of stress at home and a feeling of hopelessness that possessed me. Haven't really done much since dropping out besides getting a GED, but I've read a lot of books, manga, etc. Slowly I've been setting up a base to organize the stuff I'm learning, but my computer died last November so I've been in a rut ever since without my own computer.

>> No.7388350

So how many drop outs are here?

>> No.7388355

My GPA in high school was well under a 2.0 and I failed almost every year. Now I just take online classes and get A's and B's.
High school is hell and If I didn't have good parents I would have dropped out and I would do it even now with my more mature mindset of today. Fucking waste of time, GED is so much nicer.

>> No.7388361

>>7388355
Woops, meant to say I "almost failed" every year.

>> No.7388367

>>7388311

I'm sure you could pass your GED, bro, just by observing the way you express yourself here. Chin up.

>> No.7388372

>math classes

Those are the worst. I had a Geometry teacher that would just play with random toys he had on his desk while teaching for 5 minutes a day. Classes were 1 hour 15 minutes, and only during the 5 minutes of teaching would he bother to answer any questions. Even then he would be offended if you asked about old material. If someone got a C or lower on a test he would act as if you raped his mother in front of him.

I only passed that class because my Dad was an engineer and taught me whatever I didn't understand.

>> No.7388380
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7388380

I'm not from the USA so my story may differ:

In high school, I did poor in exams, especially in the final two years. I didn't get accepted into University so I went to a community college to try the exams again, then I could re-apply for University. I passed Community College but I fucking hated it (I felt like scum going to school with people who could barely speak English, had down syndrome, were all ugly and awkward). I have a fear of falling behind, I lost all the friends I had because they went to University and I was stuck in Community College.

Now I'm at a point where I can go to a University (albeit a shitty one) to study a course I don't particularly enjoy, or take another year off to try to get into a course I do enjoy OR go to see my father who works abroad as an ex-pat and convince him to get me a job on a boat so I can travel around.

>> No.7388398

>>7388380
>get me a job on a boat so I can travel around
You have got to be kidding me.
Especially
>so I can travel around
this part.

>> No.7388411

>>7388350

Do I count as a dropout if I was never actually *in* highschool? I was homeschooled my entire life. I got my GED at 18, the earliest my state would legally allow, and then took two quarters worth of community college classes before dropping out to take an online tech school course

>> No.7388418

If anyone has reservations about taking the GED, I have my test results right here and found a website that says what's on the test like the back of my paper does.

http://hammond.k12.in.us/AdultEd/pdfs/GED_Info/meas-rslt-dipl.pdf

Looking at this actually made me remember the test and the woman who administered it. That was a good day...

>> No.7388645

>>7388294
>Rent is 1.2k before utilities

Even if this is the supposed average for your area, it doesn't mean you can't find something at a much better price.

Unless you have ridiculously high standards for your income bracket, you should be able to find a decent place, though it will likely take a lot of time and effort.

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