Ar Tonelico / GUST Thread

[Anonymous No.]

Here we go again!
Old Thread: >>7700125

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

UPDATE: There's a new version of PCSX (0.9.8) which can be found here: http://pcsx2.net/downloads.php

AT2 Flash Cosmosphere:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/
Offline Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hpr7840pbe1wf7d

Lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

mp3s of the full version of the songs in the AT1 Hymmnos Musical
http://www.mediafire.com/?qmirw7qf5vjf463

Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ is out! Download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

Expanded arrangements of AT1 and AT2 OP:
Utau Oka ~Salavec Rhaplanca~ http://www.mediafire.com/?69dlya322qa4wp7
Utau Oka ~EXEC_HARVESTASYA/.~ http://www.mediafire.com/?lc6b8mlr2i9l4bi

[Anonymous No.]

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation can be found on the top of this page:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere
April Fools TKS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?avpff50jo843a52

AT Visual Book (now available):
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781926778266/Ar-Tonelico-Visual-Book
Atelier Official Chronicle (now available):
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9781926778204/Atelier-Series

originspuke.jpg by Anonymous (We still need volunteers to color shureliapuke.jpg and tyriapuke.jpg):
http://www.mediafire.com/?onweglacei3zi

Install Point Vectors (SVG) by Anonymous
http://www.mediafire.com/?enad2p76f90qe00

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't listened to the AT1 Hymmnos album in a while so I decided to compare the two main heroines songs side by side. Aurica's songs are better on average than Misha's
EXEC_PAJA_.#Orica extracting.>EXEC_PAJA_.#Misya extracting
Aurica's sounds much better in that as it isn't just angry noises like Misha's
EXEC_LINCA>EXEC_HARMONIUS
Has a better melody and is catchier.

[Anonymous No.]

luca is a whore and a slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>7724214
With the EXEC_PAJA/. I find that Misha's sounds a lot more forceful and far more energetic while probably due to the vocalist, Aurica's is very clear and melodic. Personally, I love that distinction between the two versions and I find it hard to pick one over the other. I get the impression that Shikata Akiko, Shimotsuki Haruka and Mitose Noriko are given a fairly big leeway in composing their respective hymmnos so that there is a contrast between them and helps emphasise their styles.

That's kinda why I didn't like AT3's hymmnos as much because there were IMHO far too many different styles mingling and some of them didn't have the feeling that they were hymmnos.

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>>7724290
>That's kinda why I didn't like AT3's hymmnos as much
I see what you're getting at but that doesn't mean there isn't a good hymmnos in there. There were plenty of good ones such as EXEC_COSMOFLIPS and EXEC_FLIP_APHAGE, it wasn't as good on average as the other two games but I feel it had some of the best songs in the series.

One too many EXEC_CUTYPUMP I guess is what you see...

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>>7724242
I'm sorry, but has Luca even engaged in sexual intercourse? Oh, that’s right. She hasn't even made contact with a man outside of dive therapy. In fact, it’s only therapy involving fields for soothing. Does not having a cliche tsundere personality make you a slut? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is already finished and we know for certain she is pure? Luca is a holy maiden now and she was been the purest maiden in Metafalss? Luca has to go up against one of the sluttiest reyvateils in Ar Ciel who just happened to have a lead because she was praying on Croix's innocence. But you know what? Cloche is still a whore. Luca is the best heroine in all three games, she has the best songs. Luca has already won Croix over, she would have done it sooner if it wasn't for her tragedy with her sister throwing her for a mental loop. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Luca is proven a better waifu than any other in AT2. Cloche tries to latch on to anyone who would have shown her a different and free life. Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-Luca topics because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like a heroine because they’re canonically pure. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking idiots on the board, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot out your threads now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

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>>7724362
Oh I didn't say there weren't any good ones in there. Both FLIPS, EXEC_REBIRTHA=PROTOCOL and Ec Tisia are great. I just don't think as a whole they had as much of an impact as say EXEC_VIENA, METHOD_METAFALICA both PAJAs or especially EXEC_PHANTASMAGORIA did. Those hymmnos both had good stand-alone listen-ability and their execution in the games were better IMHO. AT3 seemed to have less 'presence'.

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>>7724141

So, I just tore through both Ar Tonelicos (Misha end in 1, Jaqcli in 2), both Mana Khemias and Atelier Iris 3. Are earlier Atelier Iris games worth getting? I'm emulating for now, I'll be getting a PS3 in the near future.

Also, any games even remotely similar to what GUST offers? I mean turn-based combat with extensive crafting/leveling system and decent storylines.

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>>7724624
Item Crafting is GUST's speciality. You're probably not going to find many/any games by other studios that place that much emphasis on item crafting.

I'm pondering attacking all of the translated Atelier games just as a completionist thing but too many games on the backlog already... I'm already having to prioritise so I can get Totori first day

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I think Atelier Iris 2 is the best Iris. But the first one had Veola...

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>>7724670
WHY YOU MADE ME REMEMBER
;_;
>>7724624
AT1, AT2, Iris 1, and now at iris 2. Iris series are decent, but AI2 > AI1 for me.

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>>7724670

Should have had an ending.

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>>7724670
I thought I was the only one who loved her..

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>>7724242
I'm getting the impression that this is one of the trolls that used to spam these threads with "/gb2/v/", but saw that it didn't have any effect and chose to spam this to get reactions.

>>7724670
Isn't there a theory that she was supposed to be the protagonist, but was changed at the last minute?

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>>7724701
nah, it's been a somewhat annoying 'tradition' in the last half dozen or so threads to post 'luca is a slut' then the copypasta comes along within the next few posts. Might as well get it out of the system so that we can ignore the troll and get back to business.

For what it's worth... it seems that the majority of people in this thread are simply ignoring the trolls and not giving them any bites.

I'm a bit sad that we don't see any more of the 20+ Rorona in Meruru... it's either the extreme lolified version or the 14 year old version...

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>>7724706
I know, that's what I'm saying. They stopped spamming their GTFO and switched to something relevant, in an effort to 'hit home' and ruin the mood of these threads.

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>>7724748
Whatever, acknowledging them and letting them get to you is very much letting them "hit home". Let them spew their silliness while we discuss better things.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish there were huge high-quality images of the other two towers, simmilar to this one

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>>7725002
Ar Tonelico really was the most "towery" tower, huh.

The later two gave off more "giant construct" vibes, instead. It really shows the huge advances in technology between each one and the methods used to construct them.

[Anonymous No.]

>But, speaking from experience, 7 drums is the upper limit. It depends on how big your head is, I guess, but you can't handle more than that, okay?

MISHA DRUMMASTER

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>>7725002
i like this version more

[Anonymous No.]

I asked in the last thread, but is there anywhere with transcripts of all the synthesis/talk topic/dualstall scenes from AT2? I tried gamefaqs and they ain't got nuffin'.

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>>7725176
Transcribing that stuff is a horrifyingly tedious process that is just as horrifyingly unrewarding. If even the autisms at GameFAQs and ARM haven't collected them somewhere, you're probably out of luck unfortunately.

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>>7724214

EXEC_PAJA/.#Misha was far better boss music than Aurica's version. It made the fight against ELMA-DS so much more awesome. Soundtrack wise, Aurica's version is far better.

Anyway, playing through AT2 now. Picked Cloche's route for the second play through. Make her all dere-dere. then Croix will tap that ass so hard her orgasm will replace the first tower as the worlds greatest power source.

Then it's on to AT3!

[Anonymous No.]

She should have had the No Reyvateil End instead of Cocona

[‮ suomynonA‪‪‪‮‪‪‬‬‬‬‬ No.]

>>7725176
The closest you'll get is probably a 'let's play' archive. Like >>7725206 said, you're out of luck for a clean & complete script

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>>7725252
>Croix will tap that ass so hard her orgasm will replace the first tower as the worlds greatest power source.

Croix is far too proper to do that. He'll probably inadvertently tease her so much that the actual act would cause Cloche to erupt instantaneously with the same end result. And the first tower has a freaken white hole as a power source.

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>>7725261
Don't worry bro I got you covered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7725323
Ouch...

I didn't think it would hurt MORE when it's a guy friendzoning a girl...

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>>7725323
Friends forever

Ahh, the Toukouspheres are awesome with Cynthia and Skycat being absolutely livid that Rikka ended up with her squeeze. Their fault for picking the MC or the MH and not a secondary

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>>7725334
At least Lelina has a 3 in 4 chance of Croix not picking the Luca end and still having a chance post-game.

Cynthia is screwed, no matter the ending...

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>>7725363
But Luca has Cloche and vice-versa... I'd say they're both equally rooted when it comes to having their love requited

[Anonymous No.]

I made Skycat in Custom Maid...
>>7725406

[Anonymous No.]

Oh goddess, why did I have to download that loopable version of the AT2 bath music from /rs/?

I've had it playing for well over two hours now, and I can't bring myself to turn it off!

[Anonymous No.]

Hello,

We have good news! We're able to get this part of your order to you faster than we originally promised:

Gust, Ryou Nagi "Ar Tonelico Visual Book"
Previous estimated arrival date: August 15 2011
New estimated arrival date: August 12 2011

[Anonymous No.]

>>7724214
> Aurica's songs are better on average than Misha's
The red side sounds cheaper and is normalfag-friendlier than the blue side.
It's not like I like Shikata Akiko better or anything. It's just a fact.

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>>7725547
Seconded.

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>>7724442
>>7724362
Know what's so wrong with AT3's Hymmns?
Not enough Mitose Noriko. That's why the Blue side is still decent, while the Red side is mostly shit

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>>7725547
red side has Phantasmorgia, Linca, Paja#Aurica and suspend
red side all day, every day

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>>7725569

XaaaCi.(ザキ) is a pretty decent song from her

[Anonymous No.]

>>7725629
Chronicle key alone makes the blue side better
Singing to protect my loved one

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>>7725629
Phantasmagoria was a good ending theme.
Linca is ok. I like Misha's version of Paja much better. And I personally think Mitose Noriko's songs are the better ones on the Red side.

Blue side sounds more ethereal and has an obvious classical influence in it. Both are heavily instrumental, has a lot of chanting and other awesome shits you rarely find anywhere else though.

Also Hoshiyomi >>>> Tsukikanade.

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>>7725629
Blue side's hymmnos are much more haunting. They're beyond the ears-pleasing level.

[Anonymous No.]

Is that true that there won't be any new AT game?

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>>7725747
For the foreseeable future, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Sometimes I go to the Totori website just to stare at Cecilia's picture.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been bored lately and thought about replaying AT3, i remember reading that Saki's route is bugged and you cant get 100% if you missed that one song. Did they fix this or will i just have to start a fresh new game?

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>>7725852
There are some missable events and hyumas on Saki's CS. One being at her LV1 CS. The hyuma only obtainable if you clear her LV7(?) CS BEFORE getting to Moocheriel for EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE/.

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>>7725887
Yea i think i missed the one at seven since i was going for Finnel's route. Guess that means ill need a fresh new game instead of new game+?

[Anonymous No.]

>You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!
>newest version (0.9.7)
>newest

Somebody should update the pasta
the newest (beta) build, 0.9.9 r4850 was released almost a week ago....

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>>7725994
You can make a NG+ and collect the CS7 one. It's only a matter of completing it before the end of Phase 2, so you can start from the beginning of Phase 2 and get it done.

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>>7725755

This by itself isn't so bad but the fact that Tsuchiya isn't doing anymore Ar Portal updates makes me sad. ;_;

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>>7726182

Be careful with the latest version, it's got a bug with AT2 where black bars appear over characters faces if they are on the right side of the screen.

0.9.9 r8404 is the last SVN version that works flawlessly.

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Just about to start playing AT2 after finishing 3 (I know playing through the series backwards is retarded, but whatever), and I was wondering, is the game sensible like 3 and levels up all of your vanguards at the end of a battle, or will I have to struggle with having level 6 vanguards in my party when croix and cocona are level 30?

[Anonymous No.]

Are the AT3 DLCs worth upgrading my PS3 (and forfeiting the chance of installing CFW in the furture), getting a PSN account and paying hard monies for?

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>>7729001
no but the idolm@s dlc will be.

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>>7728996
Never mind, turns out it does, which is good. I would have hated for Leglius to end up useless.

ALso, will my OCD behaviour of emptying out the encounter bar for each area I enter end up with me horribly overpowered again?

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>>7729001
The Elemia Island DLC is worth buying a second PS3 to exclusively upgrade and play.

Fuck yes GUST you are the best company ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Must be nice to have the DLC. Fucking Australia ;_;

>>7729029

I've been doing the same thing in the first game and I'm pretty horribly overpowered, so probbably, yeah.

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>>7729087
Wait what? You can't get the DLC from the EU store? not like it amtters for me... Aus bricks and mortar copy and the limited edition off the NISA store so it's the US copy for me

>>7729029
You'll be overpowered with Guard++ and above girl powers. Just don't bother with weapon upgrades and you'll be set.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm playing AT3 for the first time - is there something I can do about the characters looking like white blobs that don't fit into the beautiful hand-drawn world at all?

Oh, and I started on "hard" and got my ass handed to me in the first fight. Twice.

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>>7729415
Not really. GUST can't afford to spend that much developing a 3D engine. AT3 was the 2nd game they released that used a 3D engine, and it was only around 7 months after their first attempt (Atelier Rorona) so they were most likely still trying to get a good handle on 3D graphics. Probably didn't help they decided to go with a real time action battle system that needed collision detection.

Minor point of interest, GUST released Atelier Rorona, Totori and Meruru nearly 1 year apart from each other. Actually it was 364 days apart (6/25; 6/24; 6/23). AT3 was crammed in between Rorona and Totori releasing on 1/28/2010

Hard mode gets to be more manageable once more of the battle system is unveiled.

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>>7729268
I'm Australian and I bought the DLC from the playstation store...
Weird thing is, as far as I can tell you HAVE to search for Ar Tonelico to find anything related to Ar Tonelico. speant ages looking to see if there was an Ar Tonelico section in there and could not find one.
Still not sure which alternate Harvestasya personality to go with.

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>>7729449
Tsundere. You know you want it. or Supreme M because you know you are one for Harve-sama.

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>>7729449
You're doing it wrong if you don't pick Lady Shitframe

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>>7725773
I do that for Melvia; you're not alone.

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>>7729471

I still have hopes for that one guy vectoring it. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a reliable way to fix all the visual errors in AT2?

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>>7729449
>Still not sure which alternate Harvestasya personality to go with.

If you haven't beaten the game yet, I recommend leaving her personality to default or else the scenes will... not make sense. They're funny, but it ruins the dramatic moment.

>>7729458

I'd screw the crap out of Lady Harvy. I don't care if she's a hologram and I would just phase through her, I'd still do it.

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>>7732280
Already finished the game so screwing with her personality is purely for the fun of it now.

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>>7729458
>>7729461
Sadistic Harvestasya is best, imho.

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't the Harvestasha personality packs eng dub only?

[Anonymous No.]

Today is a good day; I finally found enough time to finish Cloche's install point.

Also, good news about Luca. I found a really low-res version of the full thing so I'll be vectoring that next.
Hopefully I'll be able to make it look somewhat decent.

>>7731471
I take it you're referring to someone else? It's beyond my skill, I'm afraid.
Could it be recreated manually? We already have high-res images of the characters in those exact poses.

Updated archive (SVG + PNG):
http://www.mediafire.com/?qtu4bqacus8yttz

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>>7733450
Thank you, and thanks for Luca. Are you gonna do Finnel and Sucky?

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>>7733450
Did you seriously just vector Cloche's vagina?
I... I don't have anything to say to that.

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>>7733603
No no no, the install point is totally separate, though it may share the general vicinity with the other type of install point (refer to Mir's install point which is on her mound)

Cloche's install point is near one of her armpits (I think left?) while Luca's is on the back of her shoulder.

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>>7733518
Yes, I'll be doing them as well.

>>7733603
Too lewd.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm on a dual celeron and two gigs of RAM, no graphics card. Can I emulate this

[Anonymous No.]

Just got my AT Visualbook today....

I shall now go and sniff the pages until my nose falls off.

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>>7733879

Sure dude, I emulate this on my 386sx 16mhz with 1meg of memory and a 40MB HD.

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>>7733450

Where you the person who posted a preview with Salapatra?

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>>7733450

Were you the person who posted a preview with Sarapatra?

I really shouldn't post while half awake.

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>>7734306
No, that's a different person. I was actually just reading about it on the archive.
Looks like others have talked about recreating it, but no one's delivered.
I might give it a shot (not as a vector though).

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>>7734340

That's the guy I was referring to. He posted a preview of the vector coming along and it was looking good even if it was only a small portion of the whole image. I haven't seen him post since then hence my "I believe ;_;" post.

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>>7733684

I wonder what Mir's creator was thinking, putting her install port right above... "there."

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>>7734435

They were obviously healthy thoughts about where into her naked body he wanted to jam a long, hard mostly cylindrical rod that would cause pain.

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>>7731972

Pay $40 for a used PS2 and $20 for a used copy of the game.

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>>7729268

Has anyone tried using remote desktop with this? If so, how well does it work.

I.E.

I have an htpc that can run it at like 40fps.

I have a main rig that could easily maintain 60.

Would remoting from the htpc be viable?

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>>7735011
Alternatively pay $40 for a used PS2, $5 for a copy of 007: Agent Under Fire, install Free McBoot and ESR and play 99% of PS2 games for the price of a blank DVD.
If you have spare cash though you could buy a copy from NISA's online store.

On another note: How long do you think it would take for book depository to ship something to Australia?
I'm moving house in the next few days, and it being winter and the local post service being filled with retards who'll leave a package out in the rain I'm concerned for the safety of my AT Visual book.

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In AT2 should my reyvateils be about the same level as my vanguards?

In other words, are my reyvateils horribly underpowered by having Luca and Cloche at level 7 when my vanguards are approaching 30 on Gaea?

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>>7737786

Sounds like you are probably a little behind on your bathing. RT and Vanguard levels generally don't stay too closely together.

Check every shop for dualithnode crystals, and check again as the story progresses, because they'll add more to their stock.

[Anonymous No.]

Ahaha holy shit, Lady Momoyo is the best song magic ever

[Anonymous No.]

Forgot about this.

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>>7738591
>Nofunallowed.png

Keep your good work.

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>>7737786
By that point my Reyvateils were AT LEAST as high a level as my vanguards. Reyvateils don't level up through experience in AT2, they level up using dualinthnode crystals.
>>7737868
Yeah Momoyo is funny awesome.

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>>7738591

Sucks that AT3 didn't have a meidobot.

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>>7738755
I really liked Akane though.

[Anonymous No.]

Wtf, Mir. Why you're so strong? Stupid Lyner. If only he didn't decide to save that bitch NOTHING would happened. "I'll take responsibility" my ass!

Oh well. Time to grind materials and

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7738591
Oh man, dat fappable line art.jpg

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>>7738591
Should have gone to OC thread

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>>7739722
Wait, you're having troubles with fights in AT1?!

Ok, fine, Mir's last form does drop a huge ass attack that hits the reyvateil without any chance to respond... nothing a few miniature Ar tonelico bombs won't fix. (And give her a reason to recall the thing when you make a knock-off copy in AT2)


I see Meruru will fear drinking with her elders....

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So I take it the QCer lost interest in doing his job by the time he got to the infellasphere's script?

Seriously, it seems like there's at least one error every other scene.

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>>7739722

You COULD grind the akashi relics (sp?) in the place where you fight the child of light, to make the top tier armor for each person as well as getting a crapton of exp, sure, or you could


put a rank 4 attack down on your inf. charge mana ball, and make mir deal SIGNIFICANTLY less damage with all her attacks. Just charge it to 2k and release, rinse, repeat.
Oh, and make sure everybody in your party is immune to curse.


Also, when mir does wipe out 2+ party memebers, cast the revive + heal song ASAP. The revive and heal portions are instant when you start casting it.

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>>7739954
Yeah, the last half is a huge mess. AT3 starts to see more errors towards the end as well, but not nearly as many as AT2.

I'm still annoyed at some of the "localization." Turning the classic "I've been in love with you for the longest time" into "YO JOE I SAW YOU IN YOUR JOCKSTRAP" is just blasphemy, and wasn't even funny.

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>>7739722
I refuse to believe that it is actually possible to die in AT1 after getting shurelia. Blast fill is like activating godmode.

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>>7739954
I liked the choice where they swapped the options around so you have to pick the opposite of what you actually want to do. That was a good one.

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>>7740047
Nisa clearly employs some people who just don't give a fuck and get even worse the closer they get to a deadline. They screwed up with Tilia's Binary field where the voices don't sync with the text and made so many weird mistakes and mistranslations throughout Frelia's binary field too.

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>>7738591

That's awesome.

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>>7738591
nice work

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>>7740047
>Yeah, the last half is a huge mess.

No kidding. I wasn't expecting to see one of these, right at the start of phase 3 as well. I mean that literally, 3rd speech bubble after the phase 3 screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7740601

Yeah, whatever team did Ar Tonelico 2 must have been smoking some serious shit that time. Probably the same team that did Rhapsody DS as well.

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>>7740614
Just think, if GUST ever does a port/remake of AT1 and 2 for the PSP/Vita, NISA can go back and fix all this when they localize it.

And then they don't fix anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7739902

Mir's second form was piss easy. The first form was a gruelling slug fest where I almost lost by running out of healing items + spells, then I one shotted her second form with a 20,000% charged Ar Tonelico

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>>7740652
I could say the same thing about Mir's first form. I thought everyone used Krusche so that they could spam heal every turn so healing using items was only something you did as an emergency.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, so Jacqli's only level 9 when you get her?

That's actually kinda disappointing, I was hoping she'd be like 15 or 20 or something and massively overpower my Luca and Cloche, who I thought I'd underlevelled by having them only at 10...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7741599
you level them with crystals in the bath (1 crystal means 1 level), so overleveld or underleveld is pretty much for you to decide

[Anonymous No.]

>>7741642
I know that.

Unless Jacqli's level when you first get her is based off your other reyvateils' levels at that point, it doesn't change what I said

[Anonymous No.]

>>7741661

It is. Jacqli was around level 30 (same as my other RTs) when I got her, IIRC.

[Anomynous !D7FNc/RM4Y No.]

>>7734306
>>7734340
>>7734401
I've been busy with other things, unfortunately. What little spare time I have to dedicate to the vector has been mostly me playing with gradients and fills to see if I can make the image a full vector system or just leverage vectors to make a significant upscale akin to redrawing the whole image at much larger scale. Results so far haven't been very good, though I intend to keep trying for a while longer to see if I can get the results of vector gradients/fills to look acceptable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>7741599
Isn't that level stuff kind of moot? Her songmagic is clearly overpowered in contrast to the others.

[Anonymous No.]

AT art book came in on friday, haven't gotten to sit down and read it till today. Some good stuff in the interviews, for Luca fans the majority of the AT2 section is about how they were shooting for a "real girl" personality for her and how Croix was meant to be a POV hero so that's why his personality feels a little flat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742033
I got the AT book in on Friday, but I'm hoping someone who isn't me scans it in.

I've been trying to balance reading this with the Valkyria Chronicles book. I'm at the AT2 section of the character/CS art chapter, although I might do some more reading today.
That interview sure looks daunting, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742055
AT2 is my favorite so I went over those sections first. The VC artbook is another beast entirely, jesus, only read the Selvaria section and plan to back to the rest later.

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone quickly run over how you choose a heroine in Melody of Elemia? Playing through it now and I don't want to screw anything up.

Also, is there anything different during the story that results from choosing one girl or is it just the ending (something I could just look up on youtube)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742084
You'll make a decision in Phase 2 (I think?)on whether or not you'll help find Chronicle Key.
If you do, you're on Misha's route. If you don't, you're on Aurica's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742097
there is third route by the way, but you will see it regardless of chosen girl. The two main routes have a completely different phase 2, so no youtube for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742097
>>7742122
Duly noted. Thank you.
Right now I'm only up to the Falcon's Claw, which is the area with the "Tyria" Statue. I doubt that's very far in but it's better to be safe than sorry.

Oh and I'm very aware of the third reyvateil. Guess I'll just make a save before the Chronicle Key and Shurelia decision points to minimise the repetition.
Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.]

So I notice the artbook has facial expressions for Uragaeru and Zoey.
Uh... what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742660

Probably made the art for them just in case, then wound up not using them in any plot/CS scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7742660

Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7741735
Thanks, it sounds tough. I know gradients are pretty challenging to get right.
Keep up the good work; we won't be going anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone have success beating AT3 on hard? I find that the biggest challenge is that your teammates have apparently been blessed with an IQ of zero, and charge right at their death. Every. single. time. Doing every encounter alone is rather bothersome and tiring.

Also, I read that supermoves charge the slut-o-meter faster than regular attacks, but for some reason, I don't see much of a difference, if any. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7744576

I did my first playthrough on hard. I started with normal, defeated Mute then switched over and never had any real issues. As long as you can multi-purge then the game was rather easy. Control Cocona and use a supermove (I like the AoE one) on red beats, as long as you do damage with the supermove it'll drastically lower the amount of hits needed to purge. This is why purging becomes easy mode once you can strip multiple layers and just hit the red beat.. 8 times I think? It's been a while..

[Anonymous No.]

So Tsuchiya says, $840,000,000,000 to build a prototype Shurelia.

Who's with me?

[Anomynous No.]

>>7746386
No one man has managed to accrue such wealth, it would have to be a massive effort. Further: that's just the cost to build her. How much do you think all of the theory and experimentation that went into developing the parts and integrated systems would cost? How much for the tower and its servers? How much for THEIR theory and design?

I could fully see several more zeros added to that in development costs alone. Further, you can only push the speed of R&D so much, so time also becomes a factor. It's a pipe dream, anon. Take your memories and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, AT would be much better without the combat. Waiting for your burst gauge to go up every single fight is mindnumbigly stupid, and grinding your way through dungeons until the encounter bar is empty is such a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746458

It wouldn't have sold as much if there weren't RPG aspects. It would just be a regular visual novel that would only be sold on MangaGamer or JAST and it would sell like shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746458
Why would you even empty the gauge? What a waste of time. You can run from battles in the first two to empty the gauge if the battles are that annoying. AT3 is the only game where the battle system started to annoy me, because the vanguards aren't that strong and you have to wait on the reyvateil's burst to start climbing to do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746479
Well, it's not like you are trying to empty them voluntarily, but in huge dungeons, it has a certain advantage to having to escape every ten seconds.

Also, as far as I remember, the gauge depleted from escaping only in AT1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746386
But Shurelia can't exist without the tower?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746516
Then build the tower ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746528
That would cost a bit more, I'd think. And we still haven't discovered sound science.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746386
Fuck Shurelia, I want Frelia or Tyria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746643
You don't know what type of horrors you've just unleashed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746386
I'm in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747248

Thank you for being the only one to trust in TOTAL COMMAND's estimate, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746386

I can donate some of my NEET funds towards this. It will be glorious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746643
>Frelia

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748653
>Hating on Frelia

Somehow not surprised you react /b/ style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748653

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7746643
>>Fuck Shurelia

That's the plan. If I can ever raise the 840 billion dollars needed, anyways.

Actually that sounds like something a supervillian would do. Spend all the world's resources (or some precious item) in order to create an artificial girl just to bone her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748808
>That's the plan.
I waited for 10 hours for someone to make that joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748808
Lezard Valeth in the making.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748825
We all want to be Lezard

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7748819
Anon is slow at joking lately.

>>7748825
The same thing came to mind while typing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748840
That drawing is kinda QUALITY, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748808
Missing a few zeros there. It's 840 TRILLION, not billion. Unless you're talking about British billions, but I don't think anyone uses that unusual progression any more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748843
Eye placement and back of head are off, but it's otherwise pretty good. Decent hands, albeit with thickish fingers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748873
Her left hand is what bothers me most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748887
It's a bad pose. The pinky looks off due to perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748906
Not so sure about that. Anyway, all of this has given me the urge to draw some of the origins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748926
Admittedly, the longer I look at it, the worse the hand appears.

[Anomynous No.]

>>7748819
Thought about making the joke, then I thought better of it.

[Anonymous No.]

I need some help. I've entered Phase 3 of the first game, recruited Shurelia, and gotten to the point where the Plasma Bell is on the map. Yet, for some reason, I still can't Dive into her? Is this normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7749798

I believe you can start diving into her once you rest/talk to her a few times.

[Anonymous No.]

If they made an Ar Tonelico MMO, would you play it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748808
YFW Tyria is the only Origin with genitals.

Seriously, and even then its only because Kurogane was a creepy git.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750263
Only if I could have lesbian diving adventures. I don't want people to dive into me so I can gain more power. Actually, the whole cosmosphere thing would be pretty weak unless you could customize it a lot. Even then, those sluts would want to let everyone in so they could see your cosmosphere. "You've let how many people into your 9th level?" Easy girls everywhere. Then you'd have all the Lyners who have been in hundreds of girl's 9th levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750263
I'd pretend to be a little girl. What else is new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750263
huehueheu in my AT? God forbid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750263
Humans and Reyvateils are too asymmetrical for a traditional MMORPG structure to work, but I've always been very interested in the idea of an asymmetrical MMO. But if it wanted to be true to the original, the difference between the two races would almost be like playing two different games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750263
I sure as hell would.

The only way I could see it actually working though was if each player made a vanguard/reyvateil pair and played as both at the same time, because you'd get a major imbalance of vanguards and reyvateils otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

Need some help guys. I'm in AT2, phase 1 and the level 3 IPD's are kicking my teeth in.

Croix is about level 15, Cloche is about level 8, Luca is off being the holy maiden and Cocona is around level 13.

Is there any strategies other than "train hand eye co-ordination"? Or should I just skip the battles and leave them for later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750339
1. Switch to easy
2. ???
3. Enjoy the story instead of ruining your fingers mashing the block buttons.

You're free to switch back once you've obtained a few Guard+ IPDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750349

Totally forgot about easy mode.

brb, throwing myself into the sea of death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750349
イージモード？ええ〜マジ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750339
Don't attack the IPDs, get them later. Pretty sure IPDs aren't missable but I didn't care about them. Even if they are, AT II is so easy on normal it isn't even funny. The only challenge in the game is fighting IPDs that are way past your level, like you're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750577
Beating lvl9 IPDS during phase 3-4 is fun as fuck.
>block everything
>rev up sync and harmonics
>load candy loli sync magic
>add replakia
It's so incredibly satisfying to see enemies that can OHKO you die buried in sweets..

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750577 Pretty sure IPDs aren't missable [...]
They are, and having more earlier makes unlocking certain talk points with a certain virus much easier.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn you Ar Tonelico.

Damn you and your making me buy the visual book.

I've never done that for a series before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750651
You'll buy it and like it

[Anonymous No.]

It was Eri Kitamura's birthday in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750651
I've never bought anything weeaboo in 10 years, but AT somehow made me get all 3 settei books already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750651

My copy finally arrived today and while I'm usually not someone who buys art books, this one was well worth the wait and the money.

I only got halfway through the AT2 section and I already want to replay the games ....

The only disappointing thing (compared to the Atelier Book) is the lack of an interview with the sounds staff or Shimotsuki / Shikata / Mitose ... those were easily the most interesting ones in the Atelier book and I would have loved to read their comments on the music.

(Mind you, I haven't read the interview with TOTAL COMMAND yet, so if that's covered in there, feel free to correct me)

[Anonymous No.]

so i found a rather good scan of visual book 3 if someone is interested, pic related

http://www.mediafire.com/?h208avif5y6ak25
http://www.mediafire.com/?q9l0cxi5b62g34q
http://www.mediafire.com/?r1nnq83brlwoapk

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751227
I love you.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

I'm buying all the Udon translated artbooks pretty much. So far I think they brought over or will bring over:

- Valkyria Chronicles Design Archive
- Atelier Series Collection
- Ar Tonelico Visual Book
- Shigenori Soejima Artworks (Persona 3, P4, etc.)
- Taka Tony Shining Wind Series Artworks
- Monster Hunter Illustrations
- Valkyria Chronicles 2 World Artworks

Gotta buy them all!

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7751516
Oh and the other Capcom games stuff of course. Can't believe I forgot those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751516
You have no idea how much I envy you for this.

I'm a pratical man, I'm also poor I see no real use for them. But for some reason I'd really really love to own them ;_; Yet Giving like 200€ for books with just pictures and stuff in them seems like suchs a huge huge waste of money espeically considering i still need to buy the 3DS and PS Vita... And all the games that are coming out...

I envy you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751516
>>7751543
>Zoon bar

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751557
I can't speak for all of them, but the Atelier Official Chronicle at least also includes descriptions of each game, their alchemy systems, and also some artist comments. There are also several interviews. The one with Kishida Mel, and the one with the Sound Team were both particularly interesting.

It's not particularly worth the price tag if you don't want it for the art, but it is actually quite a nice reference if you want to be a more in-depth fan of the series.

These are some examples of illustrator comments. You'll have to excuse my terrible photography skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751516
>- Taka Tony Shining Wind Series Artworks
Thank you for notifying me that this existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751227
Sir, i love you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750600

And this is one of the reasons why AT2's combat system is the best of three.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750600
>play AT2 on easy mode
>phase 5
>vanguards are level ~55ish, revy's level 45
>still have more trouble with rank 9 IPD's than final boss, and noticeably so.

'-'

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752332
>55
There's your problem. Mine are that level and I'm about 3/4 through Phase 4

[CaerXhan No.]

>>7752425

Aren't you taking too long? I remember I finished the game without any trouble around level 50.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752425
Isn't that excessive? I finished the game at lv60 having done all the Raki fights & lv9 IPDs. And even that felt a bit high.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7751557
Y-you could always come over and we could read the artbooks together, Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753530

Where do you live, ZUN? I doubt we're in even in the same country. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>7751960
The Kishida Mel interview was very interesting and kind of humorous at the same time. The can of tuna as emergency rations... only to be forgotten. And the old fashioned black rotary telephone.

He also upgraded his main workstation sometime between the Atelier Chronicles interview and the one for the Rorona and Totori art book since they had a little piece of 'Atelier Mel' and he's sporting a newer and much beefy machine and a new stupidly huge Wacom tablet.

Now I'm Atelier Totori ready. Just finished getting the Astrid ending in Rorona with all events and conditions locked in with 5 months to spare. Dear god you work your ass off like a maniac during the first two years to get everything set up. I'm a little annoyed that you only get the ability to custom create really great items 3 months into the 3rd year with little time left to make good use of the time you spend in creating them. Thank god the 3rd year has 3 of the assignment being total jokes. Mystic Anhk, Healing Bell, Meteors and Terra Bombs and a Gio + Sterk party is just ludicrous. Having to deal with all the rubbish traits is so annoying and I'm looking forward to being able to pick the traits you want to keep with Totori.

[Anonymous No.]

So, based on the AT visual artbook, who is the flattest female? This is sorta important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753729

I haven't seen the artbook myself, but I think as of Ar Tonelico 3/Qoga, it's either Finnel or Tyria. Even Cocona has some boobage now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753748
Tyria was weird in AT3. Her default portrait lacks so much that she looks like a boy. But she suddenly has a chest when she puts on the uniform in the Binary Field. Even Finnel had her bouncing bits during the purge scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753752
It's all part of her cunning plan to subvert the standard when it comes to Origins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753729
From several threads back:
>Not anon you're replying to, but after extensive examination and comparison of the visual and setting book, I do believe Ar_Ru is the flattest. She's super board flat compared to all the other flat/borderline flat girls. Soma, Suzunomia, Jakuri, Harvestasya, Finnel, three Origins...none of the are as flat.

[Mirrored !EhE8ram93U No.]

Is AT2 significantly better written than AT1?

I kept cracking up at how stupid AT1 was and couldn't make it more than thirty minutes in. But it did feel like one of those things that had a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753769
Yes. But if you didn't like At1, then low chance you'll like At2.

[Mirrored !EhE8ram93U No.]

>>7753770
Hmm, I downloaded both as part of the pack, so I'll check out 2 then. The most critical problem was that I had english dubs on.

But even then... the story reminded me of that terrible NO YOU ARE THE DEMONS fanfic.

DAD! I WANT TO FIGHT THE BAD GUYS!

WAH! IT IS NOT WORKING!

etc.

So... I'll just pretend all that never happened and try #2.

Anyone know if there was ever a sequel produced to Azure Dreams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753781
You do know there's a dual audio option, right? Switch to Japanese audio. Fot At2, you should d/l undub since the NISA version is incomplete when it comes to dual audio.

Story is pretty cliche, but not that bad. The heroines and music is its strongest points.

Only if you count Tao's Adventure as a sequel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753797
> Heroines, music
And the world setting

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753756
My heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753729
Ar_Ru is the flattest and best Ar Tonelico.

[Anonymous No.]

A
R
T O N
E L I C O
AR TONELICO

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755460
Lalalala la la
Fu fu fufu fu fu~

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755460

Thats a nice song

[Anonymous No.]

is there a solution for those of us stuck on 3.66 firmware? apart from buying the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755487
Rent the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755463
>>7755460
A
R
T O N
E L I C O
AR TONELICO
Lalalala la la
Fu fu fufu fu fu~

Heh, good job guys, now this song stuck in my head.

[Anonymous No.]

LU lu LU lu
lu LU lu LU
lu LU LU lu, lu lu lu lu
lu lu lu LU lu, lu lu LU LU

LU lu LU lu
lu LU lu LU
lu LU LU lu, lu lu lu lu
lu lu lu LU lu, lu lu LU lu


My sister and I sing along every time we hear that song when we're together.

[Anonymous No.]

Name of this song is what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755576
It's the bath music from At2

/rs/ got a link to a ten minute loop version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755583

This?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

[Anonymous No.]

>>7755652
That song can be so arousing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753781

>The most critical problem was that I had english dubs on.

[Anonymous No.]

I just bought AT3 and the DLCs (Personality packs and Elemia island). When do they start making a difference ingame?

[Anonymous No.]

Postin' install ports on a blue board

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758336
I'd recommend your first playthrough to be without any personality pack, it turns a serious scene into something rather silly. That said, as soon as Harvestasha talks to you, they should take effect.

The Elemia Island DLC is available once you can get into Tilia's cosmosphere, and see a Shrine.

That said, I think there was a bug related to the Elemia Island DLC that prevented you from getting a Hyuma in her cosmosphere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758378
Wow, Frelia must be a major slut with a vagina like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758402
Are the personality packs not English only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758576
There are only English voices available, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758576

The scenes that the packs affect are only voiced in English. They appear in the Japanese version, they're just not voiced. This is because the DLC came out after the game's release in Japan (so they would have had to call back the relevant actors to record the scenes) but at the same time as the English release (so they already had the actors on hand.)

[Anonymous No.]

There's still no way to get ps3 dlc for us pirate scum?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758809
Of course there's a way.
You buy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758336

I recommend deleting the DLC for now, changing that character's personality will ruin a dramatic scene. At least wait until you've completed the game at least once.

Also if you have the Elemia Island DLC installed, you'll miss out on a Hyuma on the Third Reyvateil's CS 1. You can re-install Elemia Island after you get it, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7759346
I'd like to add that missing that Hyuma will prevent you from 100% clearing her CS, and thus bar you from the trophies and such, and you'll be stuck with an ugly 99% in the Exra screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7760858
BUT after you get it once you'll never have to get it again.
Nor will you want to, because you get three really good ones out of the DLC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7760906
so I do the first cs without the dlc, after that install it again and will get everything?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any vector image of the Triangular Nuclear Loop or am I out of luck? Seeing that it's pretty simple compared to the install points, I think there's a chance that some has vectored it already.

[Anonymous No.]

>dat feel when hearing the AT3 Hymmnos album and getting the urge to buy a PS3 only to hear it ingame

Damn you, GUST. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762746
FLIP_ARPHAGE = COSMOFLIP > ECTISIA = HARMONICS TYLIA > REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL
>shit >>>>>>>> red side. AT3 red side is pure shit, and like some anon said before, it was because of a major lack of Mitose Noriko

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763016
What's the matter? Too much CUTYPUMP for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763058
CUTYPUMP somehow is actually my favorite

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763016
> *>EC TISIA
HERESY!

[Anonymous No.]

My shitty google-translated post made it into what could be the final update on Toukousphere... I'm so happy!

Now to wait for the reply to be translated...

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck it, now I have the urge to replay the AT series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763016
> Mitose Noriko
Gonna listen to Sphilla the 23rd times this day. Be right back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763161
Pff, mine's the 72nd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762309
It's on my list. I'll do it after finishing Luca's install point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763142
Which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763230
2nd one in the general questions section starts off with "I'm from England and love Ar Tonelico", so that's probably his.

[Anonymous No.]

I suddenly have this urge to learn Hymnn, which would be completely useless after the series ended and Ar=Ciel, Ar=Dor seems to be the last Hymmnos album ever. What now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763374
Do it anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

Why oh why is the Shitframe Personality changer DLC not out on the UK PSN?

[Anonymous No.]

What scenes do the Kusoframe DLCs change? Every scene she appears in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764803

Any scene she appears in until you fight her midway through Phase 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764862
Really? I thought it would have been any scene after then. It makes more sense that way as you're actually in a position to decide which personality you want then

[Anonymous No.]

I always use EXEC_RE=NATION/. as my song to fall asleep to.
It's just so calming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764874
The DLC is basically replaces her "broken" frame, which Tyria fixes after the fight in Ku.

[Anonymous No.]

I just finished Aurica's route in Elemia.
Should I continue on to Shurelia's route, or go back and start Misha's?
Why did Tenba's president just up and decide to help Lyner build an airship?
And, how did they get down from the tower while carrying Shurelia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767165
If you made a save/state at a good position for it, go for misha. You can then youtube the final Aurica end for the shurelia route if you don't want to redo the entire phase 3.

Tenba's president felt quite guilty for the stuff that happened right under her nose without her knowing about it.

If lyner can backpack 10 tons of metal and other useless supplies up the tower in the first place, surely the weight of one more girl wouldn't make too much difference on the way down. With shurelia no longer controlled by mir, the path inside the tower would've been safe enough to venture

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767207
Thanks.
I must have missed or somehow forgotten the part where we learn the president didn't know what was happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767349
It was only mentioned once or twice.

The plot required Lyner to be correct about the Power Of Friendship™, so they tossed in a half-baked excude to make her switch sides.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever thought it would be a great idea to put both Shikata Akiko AND Kokia on the same album should be stoned for having no sense of decency at all.

Side Red stands no chance ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when AT threads used to actually talk about Ar Tonelico?

Me either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767871
It never did.

[Anonymous No.]

Well I mean
I still think side red is good.
Not as good as side blue, but saying it's shit is pretty out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>Wouldn't we have to get Ar Ciel reaaaaally mad again to have another sequel?

Truer words have never been spoken, Aurica.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768005
Hey look, you posted a picture of a SLUT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767871

I still remember when AT3 was announced and the line-up was revealed.

>Akiko Shikata
>Haruka Shimotsuki
>Noriko Mitose

Fuck ye-

>Kokia

Image related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768005
But Tyria does state that they still have to sort out the problem of Ar Tonelico pumping out energy to fuel the Blastline, so that's one hook for another game.

Also, First Era ruins down on land with robotic guardians could be fucking with people's shit too

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768005

Yeah, I really don't see how they could do another sequel without making a very half-assed excuse to threaten the world again.

[Anonymous No.]

Why not a prequel? Some unsung heroes of the Grathnode Inferia.

It'll have a downer ending, probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768411
Why would the world need to be threatened?
Simply make a new story about repopulating below the towers, and the politics and dangers that await below. The world doesn't always have to be threatened.

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Another one complete!
I spent the most time on this one getting the details to look right. Carving out those fissures was tedious work.

Next up is the Nuclear Triangular Loop, followed by the heroines of AT3.

I noticed something interesting. All of the install points appear to have some theme except for Mir, Saki, and Finnel.
For example, this one looks like the moon being hit by an asteroid. Why are those three so different?

Updated install point archive:
http://www.mediafire.com/?7iqb38avlls72lv

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>>7767207
>You can then youtube the final Aurica end for the shurelia route if you don't want to redo the entire phase 3.
>>7742084 here again.
I assume this means there is more than one ending for each heroine, so is there anything I should know about how to choose between endings? I can probably work it out myself, so if the flag is of a spoilery nature I'd rather you not tell me.

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>>7769409

At end of Phase 2 you'll get a choice to finish early with whatever girl you decided to be with. If you keep going at the end of Phase 3 you get her other ending. If you've completed Shurelia's Cosmosphere you'll get another choice about wether to go with Aurica/Misha or stick around with Shurelia.

Now I have a question of my own. I've recently completed MoE (heh) and before I start the second game I was wondering which, if any, of the endings are canon.

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>>7769446
As long as you get the good/true ending it counts as canon, no matter who you pick.

The only canon choice between reyvateils is in AT3, a drama CD set after 3 confirms that the 3rd reyvateil true ending is canon

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>>7769446

The later games don't mention who Lyner ended up with specifically because they didn't want to declare any of them to be the canon girl. AT2 doesn't do this either, though one could argue that the fact that you can get a Cocona ending in both games means that AT2's Cocona end can't be canon.

The phase 2 and bad ends aren't canon, of course, since the bad end means one of the AT2 party members is dead and the phase 2 end means that most(all?) of the Reyvateils in AT2 can't use song magic, among other consequences.

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>>7764779
you have to actually search ar tonelico in the store for that shit to show up

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>>7769470
That's dumb as hell. Why is it not in the AT section alongside the Ar Ru DLC?

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>>7769475
its meant to be on the disc itself apparntly...seeing as on the US store it comes up with the DLC in the ar toinelico section while the others dont

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>>7769464

IIRC AT3 had 3 drama CDs, one for each main heroine, all of which took place after their respective endings. So Tyria's as canon as any other heroine is, which is to say she neither definitely is nor definitely isn't.

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>>7769467
AT3's Cocona end is intentionally vague though. And theres even an option to accept being rejected and staying as friends. Even if you pick the "Don't go!" option to push for Aoto+Cocona, its still inconclusive. Its just a "I'm going to see if Croix is still waiting for me(for the AT2 Cocona end fans), if not I might give you a chance." So I'd say even if you like Cocona end in both games, Croix's has a heavier weight to it.

Though it was a little annoying that she refers to him as the person who raised her when she gave a different implication whenever Croix was mentioned in AT3. I guess you could see the ending as Croix being her brother and wanting to visit her family first to keep her promise. Its seriously way too vague.

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Who is picking up Tales of Xillia just to hear Croche-sama's voice ?
Personally I'm hoping for an AT2 costume.

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>>7770306
It'll be a crime if the english version doesn't have dual audio. I normally don't really care about voice actors but I really like Miyuki Sawashiro's performances.

Maybe I should be feeling guilty that I don't main Cammy in SF4 or Weiss in AH3?

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So i find this when browsing.
Can someone tell me what is this?

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>>7770306
I'm a long time Tales fan so I'll be looking into picking it up regardless. It'll be interesting to hear the contrast between her being the Lord of Elementals and being the human society clueless ditz. but I'll probably be maining Leia during normal gameplay

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>>7768830
>this one looks like the moon being hit by an asteroid.
To me it kind of looks like an outline of the rim or part of the rim as seen from above.
>>7769490
Not the other guy but my understanding was that everything excluding the Toukosphere and the OVA was considered canon.
I've only read the translation for Tilia's cosmosphere though so I don't know whether
there is anything between the AT3 drama CDs that contradict each other.

Quote from TOTAL COMMAND Tsuchiya:
Basically, all the light novels, drama CDs, and all episodes we publish outside the games are
official, not parallel (completely unrelated) works; Arpeggio is the same, naturally.
Since we started the Ar Tonelico project, we decided not to publicly release any parallel
universe works (aside from obvious things like the Toukousphere which are intended as world-relevant fanservice), so they're all tied into the
game timeline somehow.

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>>7770382
Link to the technical data compilation Room that quote is from for those curious:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_4

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>>7770372
Plus it looks like her main love interest is some kind of evolved yuri from ToV.
Now, that's going to interesting.
Though they really are bastards, I'm looking foward to play as a female in a Tales game, but hell did they really had to give fist weapons to the male mc ?
I'm torn here...

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>>7770344
Fan-made visual novel assuming my memory is correct, go check the ARM wiki for more info.

[‮ suomynonA‪‪‪‮‪‪‬‬‬‬‬ No.]

>>7770883 here

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_tonelico:_An_Ordinary_Life

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>>7770889
Interesting.
Thanks, will try.

[Anonymous No.]

Shurelia is a used-goods slut.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtryFz1Oiv4

> 2:57 -> 3:20
> M
> E
> T
> A
> F
> A
> L
> I
> C
> A
Am i late for this or something? Haven't been able to realize this after listened to Infelious Rhaplanca for over 9000 times.

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>>7772001
Mind=Blown

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>>7772001
I creamed my pants

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>>7772001
>>7772025
>>7772032
Welcome to the 21st century.

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>>7770382
Yes, that's true, but the AT3 drama CDs all make a point of saying they're set after a particular ending. Note also this page:

http://www.fwinc.co.jp/at3/cd/
> それぞれのヒロインのゲームEND後のストーリーを描いた、ドラマＣＤだけの
オリジナルストーリー！
> Drama CD-only original stories that tell the tale after each heroine's ending in the game!!

There are three drama CDs. They're not ALL canon, so they must be all as canon as the game endings, and there's no official game ending (aside from "one of the true ends happened"...).

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>>7772001

I.. what.. My mind is blown. I'm ashamed to say I never noticed this at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh my god.

EXEC_METAFALICA/. sung by Saki might just create the most horrifyingly amazing thing ever.

[Anonymous No.]

So is tales of rhaplanca true or just the story made by jaza?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772610
The Rhaplanca Legends are a series of myths passed on in the world of Ar Ciel, just like the myths in ours.

Also, bump limit.

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