/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, what sort of things things to you archive on your hardrives incase of Armageddon?

I stockpile all things Miku and Loli related and anime.

I backup Miku for the sake of mankind. Its my dream that if a Fallout 3 situation occurs, I can reintroduce Miku again to the public. The loli is for my self, the world will always need beauty and the anime is also for my own entertainment purposes, need something to do while living in a fallout shelter.

Its only a matter of time till mankind tries to finish its self off or the Network Neutrality is taken down. You need to be prepared for the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

Textbooks and porn.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope if you nuclear winter everything gets smashed back the old days. And instead of typical mutants it's like evil powers and shit and then we can play RL Dark Souls together and when we are cold in blighttown and alone we can share each others body warmth and form deep bonds as we overcome adversity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8086778
Why textbooks?

[Anonymous No.]

Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

Antibiotics, a couple knives and loads of nice books (Rousseau, Nietzche, etc). Oh, and text books too, mostly basic crap though.

[Anonymous No.]

>I stockpile all things Miku and Loli related and anime.

Wow if thats the only things you have on your computer that is pretty boring.

[Hatsune Miku !MIKUiqnw0. No.]

>>8086743
I am with you every step of the way!
I have begun stockpiling all of Miku's pixiv tag and will surely conquer Nico at some point. We are the ones that will continue her legacy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8086964
What else would you have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8086875
Why you you keep antibiotics and knives on your computer?

[Necrobrotent No.]

Every hugo award winning novel in pdf format.

I WILL BRING SCIENCE FICTION TO A WORLD WITHOUT SCIENCE!

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

Glad to know I'm not alone

Images of any and all sort, cute, silly, etc. I passed 20gb in hand-picked images, I'm pretty sure past 60gb in packs/siterips/tag downloads. ~400gb in music of greatly varying genres.

I might start with books soon, its just that reading that much on a computer screen is difficult.

I must have more hard drives, but its getting to a point where I have to decide between more space or at least some redundancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088299
I have way more pictures than you but I have been archiving pictures since the 90s. Over 225gigs of handpicked pictures and thats not including doujins which are saved on other drives, just what I pulled from 4chan and gelbooru type sites. Only 128 gigs of music but thats 90% Miku and other vocaloids. Over 1tb of anime just on my drives about that much saved on dvds. I used to save them to dvds before hd space became a cheaper and more reliable medium.

I dont see a point to saving things like text books. Unless the world pulls a F451 stuff like that would be fairly available compared to finding vocaloids and loli. Sure this stuff would be out there but you would be breaking in to houses and apartments for years searching old hard drives looking for a fan, where text books can be found in any school.

Anime could be found but there was scare a while back where it looked like NN was about to get disolved and thats when I went on a downloading streak, pulling everything I ever watched or would watch. Now I keep what I download each season and replace it when better BR archives when they come out.

I am sitting at 7tb of hard drive space, including backups, currently and my active drives are getting close to capacity. 3tb hard drives started coming out, may have to look in to those, my case only holds 4 drives at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8087586
there's no science in science fiction anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088563
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_materials

[Anonymous No.]

>>8087586
>Hugo
>Not superior Nebula
ISHYGDDT.

...No, really. You must know there are tons of great SciFi that doesn't make it to the Hugo/Nebula/Locus nominations, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088567
Easier to find things when they're listed

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088569
Well we are talking about PCs here and what do ebooks take up in space, 2mgs? Not like you cant download all of them.

When you are 3000 ft underground and not fighting against subterranean molemen for survival, you will wish you had all those books and not just the select few on the list.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>8088557
Didn't have a computer until 2003, and only last year did I get a computer worth anything. I'm working on it. It'd be devistating if my computer was lost in some manner or other.

I don't have much video material actually, only 200gb I believe, I'm rather picky about anime, movies, and the like. Perhaps I shouldn't be.

>>8088577
I would then wish for paper to print it on.

[otoko_tenshi No.]

in the case of net neutrality, some will go before others, so those in countries with beaucratic nightmares will have at least a few weeks before global censorship to torrent lick fuck, but in the end i can still meet up with some anon and swap hard drives

in the case of chinese invasion, i have a copy of my top 20 anime, games including WoW and itunes collection in 4 seperate locations at home and in my dorm, the only problem would be getting enough solar cells or windmils to run a PC

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088591
Well one good thing would come from the lost of network neutrality, underground networks like freenet and tor would explode in popularity and we would likely see new and better versions or services.

[Anonymous No.]

I back up all collection of my games once per year to external hard drive and additionally I put my favorite games on MMC card inside of phone.

It's mostly all sorts of VNs, including loli, animals, insects (hopefully, I've not played this one yet), incests, gays, lesbians, and even yuri mahou shoujo without tentacle rape(sometimes I want pure magical love without penises and rapes) and corpses.

>>8088577
>what do ebooks take up in space, 2mgs?
Genki books in pdf format take up 150 MB each(that's because each page is encoded as image, not as text).

Japanese for Busy People - 20 MB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8086796
Because I don't like holding on to anything other than things I really need.
Books aren't that huge anyways. A pdf of an average sized textbook is under a MB, with those heavy on features and links topping out at 10MB or so. Most of what I have is on general computing and electronics. Working with servomechanics, microcontrollers, system security and adminstration, networking, and a few on programming languages.

I have no reason to be scared of internet regulations, since you can't really regulate something that is not concrete. Not to mention most of this stuff is open for people to work with.
If the current "internet" gets regulated, people can just switch to the darknets that will obviously spring up soon after. For some reason, the old folks heading government and regulation for this sort of thing are under the impression anyone pays their ISP for anything more than connivance.
There are numerous ways to establish connections without them. Even crosscontinential connections don't look so farfetched with things like moonbounce.

[Anonymous No.]

Doujin games, VN ISO's, Touhou music and doujinshi, Comiket/Reitaisai folders, Anime, Touhou images from my favorite artists on pixiv, a Loli archive, Japanese books/resources, and some other stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088827
Convenience*
No idea how that messed up.

[Anonymous No.]

everything related to weapon, vehicules enginering and survival

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088896
So the Rambo Trilogy, 7 seasons of MacGyver and SurvivorMan?

[PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw No.]

Whatever is on my hard-drives at the time. Armageddon will probably be sudden. Not much of a chance to archive in that situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090158
One doesnt archive suddenly and in a panic, thats not archiving, thats gorging. Thats not healthy. You should consider the value of information and how much stuff you can store on a single harddrive. You can take some of the brilliance of this age with you in a bleak future.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>8090167
If there really is some calamity, such as a nuclear war. I don't much expect to be able to survive the initial bang. I'm more of the net neutrality thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090177
Where do you live? I could see having this mindset if you live close to large city. Thats the benefit of living near the boonies, I have a pretty good chance not to get bombed.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>8090184
Semi-rural? I don't get around much to really judge.

I'm only saying because nuclear fallout is going to be a bit of a problem if countries would be hurling their whole arsenals at eachother.

If I were indeed to survive. Then I would be glad to live outside of a city, more space and less likelyhood of getting bugged by the savage post-apocalyptic man.

[Anonymous No.]

I archive many things, but not because I fear "Armageddon", whatever that is.
>Network Neutrality is taken down
The Internet is doing pretty well, especially in some other countries. If they actually try messing with it too badly, darknets will and have always existed for our usage, they'll just get a lot more popular.
If by "Armageddon" you mean an existential risk, there are quite a few possibilities for them. In case of the sudden ones, either we won't notice them and just stop existing quickly, or we just won't experience them in the first place due to the Anthropic Principle (applied on a multiverse), so there's nothing archiving would do either way.
A slow, but sure degradation of society and technological progress would be much worse, but I don't think that's likely or even worth calling it "Armageddon". It's possible that it could happen if we don't reach certain important technologies given some 50 years time and keep wasting our cheap energy supplies incorrectly. As for weird existential risks where most of the world population dies, most technology is destroyed or unmaintainable, and getting to the current technological level becomes impossible within one's lifetime (even a very long one), then I probably wouldn't be interested in living in such a world and archiving won't matter.

There is a similar question to yours that bothers me from time to time: If you had to start a new world or merely no longer be able to contact the current world for a very long period of time, which data would you take with you? My answer to that question would probably be large ebook archives, maybe some dumps off scientific paywalls and arxiv, maybe various useful software, and some Internet cache/archive is possible (most would be incomplete which sucks a lot). I would also prefer having my anime and eroge, some movies, but it's certainly not something truly required, and it takes immense amounts of space.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

Thinking about it, I'm curious as to whether or not I should also start making a list of the IPs of the websites I visit/wish to visit. Unlikely, but if DNS servers were to go down, that'd effectively break browsing.

Or that's just paranoia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090270
Anything that kills DNS is also going to kill a few major backbone routers and you won't be able to browse much anyway.

Go for it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090270
It's highly unlikely that they'd all go offline. There's quite a few international ones and, well, Google runs one. Google has an absolutely insane amount of servers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090270
There are a lot of root servers and your ISP also caches recently requested entries, and your computer also does that. It's highly unlikely for so many root servers to go down without there being major issues with large parts of the Internet. Not that there's anything wrong with caching DNS, as long as you update when the TTL expires.

[Anonymous No.]

With the world ending in a few months I think there is a lot of relevant information in this thread. Could also be a good idea to get a map of all the military missile silos in your area. They make some of the best bomb shelters around. Some of them are even abandoned.

[Saegrimr !SHIELDM.mE No.]

>>8091018
>in a few months
Are you talking about the whole 2012 thing? Because thats not untill December.

>>8088829
>>8088896
A mix of this.
>>8090146
And yes a couple episodes of SurvivorMan just because it is a pretty interesting watch.

>>8090281
If anything i'd be worried about something somehow severing the large oceanic backbones.
That would take a disturbingly long time to fix, and we'd be essentially cut off from eachother. I suppose there could be satellite bouncing but thats probably reserved for government shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088591
>solar cells and windmills

While those are fine things you are forgetting one of the best sources of electricity, hydro electric power. In a post apocalyptic world with less people in it, setting up next to a river would be a bit easier. Its the most stable source of power if you set up on a major river.

I knew a guy that owned some farm land in Columbia where he grew "coffee" so he says. There was a man down there that needed some form of electricity but everything available to him wouldnt work so he had my friend build him a small hydroelectric plant. It was more less a giant funnel that the man has to haul water to. Either way, it powered his farm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091080
Was that AoC? I never knew he grew cocaine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091088
AoC?

[Anonymous No.]

What's the average life time of a cheap external hard drive? I want to be prepared.

[「ロリアキ」 No.]

>>8091092
Seriously?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8091110
Summer is infinite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091101
Depends. First, if its defective or not. If you write to it then its not defective, yet. You want to run a full scan before you use it to make sure the entire thing is writable. If you are like me and you encrypt the entire thing, this will be done automatically.

After that the second most important part is how much you use it. If you just pack up the drive and put it in a box its going to keep for years. There is a chance your information will degrade but I see conflicting reports over how quickly that happens. The better you store it the longer it will last. You want it sealed and its best to keep that little salt packet in with it to absorb moisture.

If its a drive you constantly use, then the lifetime of an external is short, really short. An external case is a very poor hard drive environment. They are exposed to more heat and cold variants than an internal. Plus a hard drives lifespan is iffy already. Most experts agree that if a hard drive lasts more than 3 months, then its a good one that will last you years but thats hardly concrete.

Your best bet with an external if you want reliability is to fill it up, unplug it and store it in a cool dry place and only use it when you want to backup large volumes of information.

I pull my backup drives out every few months and do a full rewrite to them. To ensure the magnetic data on the disk is fresh and strong. I mean, I never know when I may have to pack all my drives up in my box and bury them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091110
>>8091119
>attention whores shocked that no one other than other attention whores give a shit about their trips.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8091135
Fresh off the school bus, are you?

[Anonymous No.]

If the world ends, you won't have a stable power supply, dumbass.
I very much doubt you know how to make a generator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091138
You mad? You sad? You lonely?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091144
>I very much doubt you know how to make a generator.

One wouldnt make a generator. You would want to obtain a generator. As making a generator would not be something you could do in your garage.

With a generator in hand, the hardest part is turning it.

[Anonymous No.]

I have about 2.5 TB of anime, normalfag movies and music, and video games and VNs.

One day I won't be able to pirate so freely so I better get everything ahead of time. The only thing stopping me from stockpiling more is the fear of a crash on a TB harddrive. That can bring a man to suicide.

[「ロリアキ」 No.]

>>8091159
Generators can be made pretty easily from electric motors and alternators.

[Anonymous No.]

- A complete history of the mother's side of my family, and a complete history of the village I live in
- How to operate and repair various field radios
- Various anime, pictures, and pornography

I seriously don't want to live like my dad and mom did ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091176
I know how you feel. Before I started archiving things to hard disks I decided to always keep full backups of everything. You can get a 1tb drive for under a hundred dollars.


>>8091183
Why would you want to turn an alternator in to a generator? Why not just turn the alternator?

[「ロリアキ」 No.]

>>8091207
A pedantic distinction, but a valid one. I did not mean it in the sense of converting the AC alternator to a DC generator, but rather using it as a power source not driven by an ICE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091207
Yeah, I have all my important stuff on two drives, but I don't really feel like copying 1TB of anime I may or may not ever watch. I should though.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll die young without modern pharmaceuticals as I don't know how to reproduce the medicines I take (chemical structure is not enough!) so I've never really seen the point in this sort of preparations.
If society should ever collapse I'll just go live out the rest of my days in the wilderness. I know enough to be able to live off the land, however low standard of living that may be; it'd be infinitely preferable to post-apocalyptic tribal-style society, where the strong rule small groups of the weak through force of arms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091124

Thanks for the info, anon.

[「ロリアキ」 No.]

>>8091236
1. Learn to cultivate penicillium mold
2. ???
3. Save mankind

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091224
Im just pointing out that the original poster of this topic insinuated that we dont know how to build a generator. He didnt say anything about converting. He also seams to think that anything that produces power is a generator. I was just pointing about the flaw in his line of thought.

Yes you could use an alternator as your power source, that was the source that I mentioned in the post above with the Columbia story.

Also the amount of work it requires to convert a motor could better used just looking around for a generator or alternator. With millions of cars around, he wouldnt he to hard to have a nice stock of them around.

[Anonymous No.]

Lets say the the apocalypse struck, mankind is reduced by 99% and you just happen to survive. Arnt there plenty of man made tunnels under cities you could live in? Also how well would subway tunnels, service tunnels and the like protect you from fallout? All I know about them is I see plenty of them in Fallout 3 but only a few humans actually live in them. They seam perfect.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>8092110
I would think that the ventilation would make subway tunnels pretty poor places to avoid fallout, but would probably suffice to survive the initial blast, so long as it wasn't too close by. The shoxkwave might shatter or collapse the structure though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8092110
I'll take a well forified silo/bunker over a subway. Those are in cities which tend to be crowded, more likelyhood of encountering other people, which I don't care for in a post-apocalyptic world.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how well /jp/ would do in a post-apocalyptic setting. would the power of autism allow us to kill everyone else and take their shit? or would lack of social skills mean we die when a building falls on us and there's no one to dig us out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8092115
Silos and Bunkers tend to be inhabited by hardass red necks, one of /jp/s mortal enemies. I suppose you could show up and become their bitch and latch on to them for survival. I suppose that would make Trap training just another form of survival training?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8092113
Ive never been in a subway. What about service tunnels?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>8092127
Service tunnels for what?
I imagine some may work and some may not. Depends on the nature of the ventilation. Sewers are no good because they tend to fill with flammable or suffocating gas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8092147
Well in areas with large buildings they tend to have sub basements that connect to labyrinths for utility pipes and lines. Some cities have cave systems for deliveries and other things.

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>8092156
Awesome. Probably as good a place as any.
Again, depending on the nature of the ventilation.
Wouldn't want to suffocate because the place is actively ventilated but the power's gone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091101
I'll learn how to make meth and when the apocolypse hits, I'll have an army of junkies and pay them in meth.