/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]Alright moot that it, change /jp/ back to japan/general. All the /a/ and /k/ kids will leave and the old userbase will come back, /jp/ will be nice and slow and have a elitist userbase and everything will be alright in the world. come moot, this nightmare has been going on long enough.. I want to wake up already and be at least happy with some people like me, i just cant take these people... they just aren't like who we were and its really uncomfortable.. We dont even talk about /jp/ related topics and dont feel like a family, everybody acts crazy and like a 5 year old and has no personalty at all.</spoiler>

[Tokiko No.]

[spoiler]Why not just take it off the board list? Or, even better, the userbase go take over Tohno-Chan or Channel4 or something? The real problem is lack of moderation.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]It's funny because you know very well this thread is part of the problem yet you created it anyway and I'm making this response even though everyone makes these responses and you've heard it all already but it has to be posted anyway because we can't just ignore it without saying it so I'm saying it meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta meta</spoiler>

[Tokiko No.]

[spoiler]>>8429730
Metathreads are the best.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429720
I mean /v/, not /k/.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429728
>the userbase go take over Tohno-Chan

You do know they're just more of the same from /a/, right?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]It's funny how many people complain, but I always seem to be the only one harassing mods in IRC (yes I know most people PRIVMSG them--I generally ask if I'm the first out of interest).</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

>>8429735
/v/ users are the most awful , next to /b/

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]Metakopipe AND Tokiko in one thread? That's my lucky day!</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429738
Whats the irc?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429733
Fuck yes, meta.
I come to /jp/ for meta</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]Eh, I'll take end of the world the sky is falling down meta over shitposter general threads.

Not reported. This time.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429749</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429743
No, /v/ is actually even worse than /b/, because it takes itself seriously.
It's like comparing cat shit to dog shit, though.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]No OP, you are the shitposter.

I find it hilarious people think the namechange changed /jp/. Go dig through the archives. Before it was suck my cock dude, it was Hiroshima everyday, that failipino tripfag spamming his face everywhere, UNCLE MUGEN, and 24/7 arguing about "it's board related because it's japanese"

The same as it ever was.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429766
No, that was /b/. Now its the userbase.</spoiler>

[Tokiko No.]

[spoiler]>>8429749
#4chan on Rizon. You'll need to register a nick. If you can't figure out how to do anything with this information, you don't belong in it.

>>8429742
So what...? Tohno-Chan is the best imageboard for otaku out there. It's what /bun/ wishes it could be.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429766
We are 1000x worse now, we are just as bad as /b/ and /soc/.</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

>>8429775
>Aibon gets close to anon
*kicks hes head*

>Anon is mad

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]Best name was NEET/Hikikomori General.
I know it was a tongue-in-cheek thing but I really think it should have been permanent.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429774
>Tohno-Chan is the best imageboard for otaku out there. It's what /bun/ wishes it could be.

Oh, are you a mod there or something and just pegging some advertisements? Or are you just hoping shitposters will raid them? I can't tell with you.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429794
Most likely the latter</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]I wish we at least had a janitor, even that shitty one from the steam group.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429825
Again, IRC.
I think I just got king of /jp/ banned.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]you won't be getting my support until you stop playing the strawman /a/b/v/ argument and actually blame real shitposting fucks from /co/g/k/cgl/lit/mu/ and every other similar board. people from /a/ don't go to /jp/ to discuss /a/ what the hell is wrong with you idiots. they got a fucking broad with 10 times more activity to talk about their series. it's people from /co/ who want to feel elitist towards /a/</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429833
Going on irc and sucking the moderation's cock is selling your soul.

Someone's got to do it, and it does make a difference, but you can never go back.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429794
>raid
what are we /b/?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429856
These days? It sure seems that way.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429833
>>8429880
owned...</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

[spoiler]>>8429833
You sure did bro</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429769
>>8429775

Let's take a look at one of the quality threads of 08.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/1465939#p1467840

My personal favorite part is the taiko image spamming. Sudo before sudo even existed.

Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Hell, /jp/ has actually gotten slightly better, as back then you'd have taiko shitting up three threads, ISM and athens holding their own endless trollfests, and a random hiroshima/argument/meta-thread.

Nowadays only half the frontpage is shitposting.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429880
It took you that long to reset your router?</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

[spoiler]>>8429886
didn't feel to stand up</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429884
>Sudo before sudo even existed.
Sudo was here in 2008, no?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429884
Things where a little shitty when we first arrived. But after we settled down things improved drastically. And really what more can you expect during the first months of a board like this?

Things were a lot better in all ways in early 09 than they are now. We're essenitally /b/ at this point, so drone on about how great we are now if you must, but know that you're wrong.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429893
No.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429893
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/2417092

Vintage sudo.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429895

Right, the quality threads of 09. Those were good times. Baawwwson all day every day, taiko scriptspamming his face, and GET threads. Truly the good times.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/3400267#p3400438</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429910
Yeah go on and pretend any board doesn't have some amount of shit on it. Go on and dig for any little thing to complain about.

I would gladly take a return to 09 quality levels over what we have now.</spoiler>

[Sudo !Tohsaka8ks No.]

[spoiler]>>8429912
So embarrassing~</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429926
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/2424183#p2424482

You've come a long way, that's for damn sure.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429921
Me too.

This honestly doesn't even feel like /jp/ anymore. The strange thing about this is we always had metathreads say how shitty /jp/, but now it really is terrible and the userbase feels like they are totally different people.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429921

And you can keep those rose tinted glasses on. You know how hard I had to "dig"? I simply kept jumping a thousand pages until I reached 08, and there was the first thread. A simple same image check for something from 09 for the second.

You can go back and look yourself. /jp/ has always been as shitty as it is. And if you believe otherwise, you're deluding yourself.

I remember 08 and 09. I remember times when /jp/ was so shitty it was unusable, and I had to stop to go do something else. Nowadays, if nothing else there's the VN general for me to hang out in.</spoiler>

[Nadie No.]

[spoiler]We need to create a new imageboard. If somebody tells me how, I could do it.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429926
That is nothing compared to how you feel when you see the way you act now.

Remember when you were just a disability pension tripfriend who had a tenga?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429947
That you're okay with how things are now says all that anyone will ever care to know about you.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429949
Except we already have like fifty options. Many of which are doing exactly what you're trying to do. Your board would not be any better, faster, or more populated than any of the existing ones that have had a head start of a few years.

[spoiler]http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/web/wakaba_kareha[/spoiler]</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429949
Hah. Good luck.</spoiler>

[Tokiko No.]

[spoiler]>>8429949
Install some version of Linux and web server software. Then, set up Wakaba or Kareha X. Make sure your ISP lets you host sights. You can also rent a shell somewhere if you have the money. If you need more help, send me a mail.

... not that making MORE /jp/ offshoots will make the internet any better. Sending more users to places with very few are what we need...</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429949
http://chansoft.heliohost.org/channel_software.html</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429954

I'm sorry for preferring a board that isn't being raided 24/7 in addition to being full of shitposters. Now it's just full of shitposters.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429954
He didn't say he was okay with it, he's just [spoiler][/spoiler]>implying[spoiler][/spoiler] that the people who say, "Oh the average quality of /jp/ in [year] was so much better!" are completely misguided. Which they are.
But it's okay. That's human nature. Confirmation bias and such.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429947
It was a different type of shitty.
People would report everything and say it. Suigin spammed threads. Daily doses and that always sucked.

Now there are flanfly banners. Suck my cock, acting like 5 year old retards, good threads getting derailed by Sudo avatarfagging, the rest of the shitheads circlejerking or just getting derailed by stupid kids. I don't see how you can possibly think it isn't worse unless you enjoy this bullshit.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]The reason /jp/ is bad isn't because of the shitposters or some Steam group or Tokiko or even a lack of moderation.
/jp/ is bad because both you and I enjoy meta threads more than on-topic discussion. That's why these threads get so many replies. We love complaining about shitposting and such more than actually talking about otaku culture, because we got bored of that years ago. Why do you think so many posters would rather ironically spam catchphrases or dump kopipe in an off-topic thread than simply ignore things and bump relevant, on-topic threads instead?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429973

It's the same shit.

In 09 it was Taiko avatar fagging. "Are you frustrated?", and Japanese Bird Cooking Spaghetti every night.

There is no difference.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429973
This is what he's talking about when he mentioned the nostalgia factor. Remember that back then there was absolutely no moderation? And that on a slow board like /jp/, that means a shitty thread would stay on the frontpage the whole fucking day. And no, we didn't use to ignore them.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429973
They do. As a matter of fact, anyone defending how things are now are probably some of the very people who spam and shitpost here.

Back then things might have been shitty, but I could live with the amount of shit we had to put up with. Now it's just ridiculous.</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

[spoiler]I am just missing the idol threads</spoiler>

[Nadie No.]

[spoiler]>>8429958
>>8429965
Oh ok, I just wanted to help. I don't even post that much here, I mostly lurk everyday, from before the split. But it never occurred to me to leave /jp/ until now.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429990
Good luck sailor. The reason anyone is still even here is becuase there isn't a good alternative yet.

Not a single one of the many attempts to make a new home have managed to come out with more pros than cons.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429998
> there isn't a good alternative yet.
There are tons. Notably text boards.
Any image boards you make will carry a certain stigma with them after so long.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429977
The way I see it, it's more like
a)people find imageboard about cool stuff
b)they discuss the shit out of it, forming friendships in the process
c)they exhaust discussion
d)now they have nothing to do, so they spam dumb shit as inside jokes and e-winks to each other

The last part would be cute if they didn't use the board to do it. /jp/ is our board, we love it and we would rather everything we want to say with the people we love, rather than with strangers. However, this sort of backfires after a while.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]I honestly love shitposting because it makes you faggots so upset. I've been doing it for years. Look at all this drama, I really can't get enough of it. I bet some of you are literally grinding your teeth and screwing your hands into legs because of all the meta drama.
Why the HELL would I stop?</spoiler>

[Nadie No.]

[spoiler]>>8429998
I tried to visit /bun/ and tohno back in the day, but didn't really like it, and /jp/ wasn't that bad before. If we move to a new imageboard, we need to have some sort of consensus.</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

[spoiler]>>8430007
well you cant expect to have the same userbase all the time, things change.
>>8429981
Japanese Bird Cooking Spaghetti
10/10 thread</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430000
Plenty of good textboards out there, I agree. And I use them.

But they are not a good replacement for /jp/, at least not any that I have found.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430022
They're fine if you can accept slower discussion.
Which, to be honest, I prefer a lot more. /jp/ moves too fast. Not that that's inherently a bad thing--I just wish every person, before hitting submit, would think, "Is this really want I want to say? Should I post this? Is there anything more I can add?" but I guess that's asking too much of a 4chan board.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430012
There will never be any consensus, see >>8429958's autistic, yet correct image.

I'd rather have all of us stay on /jp/. Also, it would be much better if everyone from /bun/ and Tohno moved back here permanently. I've come to the conclusion that this would at least kill some of the board drama.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429987
You're right, it was a livable amount of shit. And /jp/ still felt like it was /jp/. Sometimes it didn't even feel like part of 4chan.

I honestly don't see how people can think the quality is the same. Even though the shit still existed it was on a different scale. We had threads that weren't derailed with spam/memes.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429987
>>8430036
Funny, I've caught both myself and other saying this very thing a long ago. And we meant it. I guess ZUNbar was right and it's all about adaptability.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430049
It is on a totally different scale now and you know it. And it really doesn't feel the same way.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430034
They also, frankly, work better for discussion. Sage and user IDs function well with each other, too.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]What's wrong with Tohno-chan?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430066
Yeah, that's what I said long ago as well.

Now I'll post this image I use in metathreads and play oracle. After quite some time in the future, I will look back at all the shitposts of today and get a nostalgic or at least bittersweet feeling. I will see people reminiscing of them with glee and comparing them to future shitposts. One of them will finally say "even back in the days of flanfly and sudospam, /jp/ still felt like /jp/". This will remind me of that post and I will go back to the archive and search for it. And I will show that guy this post. And we will laugh and we will cry and we will report each other and /jp/ will go on.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430034
>>8430077
I agree on both counts.

But you don't use a fork for soup. And you can't replace an imageboard with them, at least not one as media focused as this one should be.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430089
Are you really asking or just stirring up shit?

You do know it was made by people on /a/, who act like people on /a/, and put all their energy into pretending like they're people from /jp/, right?

Going there to avoid kids from /a/, would be like setting yourself on fire to deal with being hot.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]DISP_ID should be enabled on /jp/. I mean it's already a part of Futaba/Futallaby so it's not like moot would need to do anything.
Plus plenty of other boards have board-specific features, so this could kind of be explained as making /jp/ more like 2ch.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430103
I'm not seeing it, though the only board I visit on Tohno is /an/.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430090
Yeah, and they'll be gloating how they've been here since 2011. It's not a matter of acceptance. It's that the entire userbase is being replaced.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430125
If you like it there, more power to you.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430125
But that's because /a/ doesn't discuss anime
AM I RIGHT GUYS??</spoiler>

[Tokiko No.]

[spoiler]>>8430113
It'd encourage more people to sage... but why not go to some place like 4-ch if you want User IDs?

>>8430103
I don't see that. It's moderated, so who cares if they're kids from /a/ if they don't ... seem like kids? Think about that.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430090
Alright well you can do that. But to me it doesn't change much. I remember how shitty it could be a few years ago, and honestly it is hard for me to argue against what you're saying as it is possible I am deluding myself but still. Things are different.

Anyway, where did the idol people go? They seemed to disappear.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430128

You act like it matters, since most of the people in here going about the good old days in 09 came here in 09.

The board will always be shitty, and always has been.

From shitposting in 09 of bawson and japanese bird that eventually got accepted as legitimate after enough new people came, all the way back to /a/ before the split with RPfaggotry and kagamisip.

It's the circle of life.

Remember when /jp/ was good?
Me either.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430128
But I see me and I see you and I see others as well. You forget it used to be just us. And it's just us doing all this damage. You can tell all these in-jokes (tlnote: that means shitposts) are obviously coming from people well-versed in /jp/ "culture"

It's up to you to adapt to all this. I'm not telling you to stop complaining or that everything is fine, just not to consider dumb things.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430150
As I said. You're someone who accepts things the way they are. And that says everything anyone needs to know about you and your opinions.

Quality had dropped. It's not debatable.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8429849
> it's people from /co/ who want to feel elitist towards /a/

Why would they come to /jp/ for that when they do that on their own board or on /a/, /a/fag? /jp/ is more hated on /a/ is.</spoiler>

[KING OF /jp/ !2K23m85knQ No.]

[spoiler]>>8430150
it was more fun back then.
not that i am complaining now , but there is a difference</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430157
Suck my cock dude, madoka a shit etc are people well versed in /jp/ culture?</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430158

And you are blind to blatant nostalgia.

But go ahead, whine about how shitty /jp/ is. It will accomplish the same thing people whining about how shitty /jp/ was in 09 did.

Nothing beyond people who can't have the decency to sage bumping the thread and filling the frontpage with yet another shitty thread.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430172
Yes. Look at the form, not the content.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430202
The form? The way it is spammed everywhere like a kid on his first day on /b/?

We've always had our share of problems, and we've always had metathreads. But legit threads got derailed far less. Anyway, this is going to be an endless argument for a change. The userbase has changed, the place seems like /b/ and the quality is objectively worse.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430195
You're whole argument is just becuase I've got the same complaint someone else had in 09, that what I'm saying is completely invalid and only nostalgia.

Let's talk quality standards.I'll be good-old-days kun here for a minute. Could it be that in 09 people had higher standards, and complained just as loudly over things that weren't as bad as they are now?
(I know you think we should just adapt and keep adapting as things continue to get worse, so whatever)

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. A few months back I had to get a new coat becuase my old one bit the dust. My jacket was some shitty old military surplus, it smelled like it was used to store dead bodies when I first got it, and already was pretty beat up. I've had that coat for about 14 years now. It finally got too raggedy to wear in polite company so I bought a new one. Well, a new old one. I bought the same model coat, made to the same specifications. Same design, same color.

The coat I got was a complete piece of shit, it couldn't keep out a light draft, never mind pull duty as a winter coat (when I wear a liner with it). Where sturdy seams held tough canvas, now thin thread holds together some synthetic industrial waste from china, and cheap cotton. The zipper works, but it's worlds apart from the heavy brass on my old one. Now you can argue I'm just unreasonably attached to my old coat, I had it for a long time and that'd be a good argument. But despite all sentiment on the matter, the new coat just wasn't held to the same standards as the older one was when it was made. GIs probably have the same complaints as the ones who were issued to one from the era mine came from. But ultimately one product does not measure up to the other.

This is my argument over the level of shitposting now, as compared to then.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430291
As things continue to get worse people will be willing to put up with worse. But they shouldn't have to, and I see no reason to keep lowering your standards when something else can still be done about it. And yeah I know, meta threads won't fix it, and /bun/ won't fix it, but that doesn't mean we have to all devolve into shitposters ourselves.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]Bump.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]Up.
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[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]>>8430299
Your words could be said about many things people inexcusably tolerate in life.</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.]

[spoiler]LOL I can't believe this thread's still here</spoiler>

[Tokiko No.]

[spoiler]good thread</spoiler>