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nnS is a wonderful artist. I wonder what drives him to draw these kinds of things.

>> No.9031899

Insanity probably

>> No.9031904

>>9031899
"Insanity" is just a word we use when we don't understand a person's motives. Every human being has a reason for doing the things he does.

>> No.9031908

>>9031899
It's love. And a preference for midriff

>> No.9031925
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>>9031908
Yeah, but why does he feel the need to go through all that trouble to draw pictures of it?

>> No.9031922

He likes midriff, and has a violent streak. I think for him, violence is a form of dominance. He also seems to love blood, seeing it as a sign of weakness.

>> No.9031933

I hate him because he's always killing my K-ONs

>> No.9031930

Sorry but Pokemans can't die or bleed.

>> No.9031963
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What I like about him that I rarely find in other artists depicting torture is the emotion he draws in the faces. It's not just about a girl getting a sharp object pushed through her body, it actually feels like she's in pain.

>> No.9031971

>>9031925
Expression. He'll think and dream of it even if he doesn't draw, and that builds up in you without some way to express it.

>> No.9031989

>>9031971
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he'd simply forgotten it in a few days if he didn't draw it

>> No.9032006
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>> No.9034211

>>9031889
Slasher flicks gave many a children murder fetishes.

>> No.9034250

>>9031904
For all intensive purposes its insanity, you can sugar-coat it with things like "different" but in the end having a fetish for severe harm is by no means different in any good way.

>> No.9034264

>>9034250
Yeah, but people with murder fetishes are a diamond dozen. And clearly not all of them act out on it.

>> No.9034269

>>9034264
Not sure if you mean "dime a dozen" in which case I don't see how, or you really do mean diamond dozen in which case I say you think of them too highly.

>> No.9034281

>>9034269
I think he was making fun of the intensive purposes thing.

>> No.9034300

Sorry if I'm being obvious or simple-minded, but shouldn't this kind of go in a place where guro is allowed, rather than specifically mentioned as not?

>> No.9034305

>>9034300
reported for being a nark

>> No.9034309

>>9034305
the hell is a nark?

>> No.9034315

>>9034309
fugg off nark

>> No.9034316

>>9034250
Not something I'm into myself, but I don't see what is so strange. People were slaughtering each other over 100 years pretty much non stop until the end of WWII. Then of course we still had Korea and Vietnam genocides.

Murdering isn't as alien as you think it is.

>> No.9034319

>>9034315
frigg off faggot

>> No.9034329

>>9034316
Doesn't mean its any good.

Besides, while quickly killing an adult male is obviously common, torturing kids is both signs of a more disturbed person and more distressing to others.

>> No.9034341

2D guro fetishism is an entirely different ordeal than one to be found in the 3D realm.
As 2D love is an idealized form, the characters rarely have moments where you can experience them in pain, or in anguish. Those emotions that complete our humanity.

You may inadvertently be led to believe that you are a pure guro fetishist under false pretense. You want to feel, to experience, to entirely hold what a character you love can display. All of their unique expressions and emotions. These images are another side you have never seen. Something new, something fresh, that you have longed for after that one season series waifu was sure to never get a second season.
I don't want to write up a wall of text, I'm sure you can understand where I'm going with this and what I mean.

>> No.9034355

>>9034341
That you're still screwed up in the head? Lolicons are still somewhat messed up and I admit that being a lolicon myself.

You make it sound pretty when in reality it turns a lot of peoples' stomachs upside down.

>> No.9034372
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>>9034355
You fucking plebian. Of course I make it sound pretty. It is beautiful when you complete the character, when you have an entire range of expression available and already created with which you can extend your fantasies.

As it stands, characters that are too moe in series are left incomplete.

An example, this picture of Kyouko. A slight bit of fear in her face provided a new emotion into the show, even if it was just made to be comical. Now imagine if that was amplified at the same levels cute, or loving, or sleepy, or any other type of diplay a character makes.

It's not messed up, it's an extension.
"how can you say you love her if you wont eat her poop?" thats in a simpler form you might understand.

>> No.9034382

>>9034372
Heeeeeee, I suppose you think you've transcended traditional human thought, okay mister superhuman, think what you want.

What you are is selfish, you wish to see that bit of extra emotion while causing what you call your favorite pain.

At the very least just be quiet about it. I'm not going to put you down for it, just learn where you can talk about it and where you can't.

>> No.9034396

>>9034382
No, where are you even getting that from?

I'm just saying this.

A human being has a bunch of emotions. All of them.

Cartoon character only has happy face, happier face, sexy face, orgasm face.

You see what I mean?
I'm not saying I'm smart or superhuman, I'm saying you're retarded.

The best thing about 2D is, you don't have to cause any pain to see those faces. This last bit is an amazingly hard concept to grasp apparently, and I was kicked out of tohno-chan for it.

>> No.9034408

>>9034396
"I'm not better than you, but you're worse than me", nice one.

and you will continue to get kicked out of places with an attitude like that, if you want to discuss how many faces contorted with pain then go to gurochan or /b/, yes I know you'll find all those bottom-feeders that can't think or talk, but you're more likely to find someone with a similar mindset than you would here.

>> No.9034417

>>9034408
The first reply you made to me was calling me messed up. I explained and rationalized it out, why did you expect to not be insulted when you insulted me?

>> No.9034424

>>9034417
Being insulted by that either means you are sensitive or new to your own fandom/fetish, I've been ridiculed plenty of times for being a lolicon (2D please), and learned to just ignore it.

>> No.9034425

>>9034408

>I don't like what you like so what you like is bad

>> No.9034429

>>9034417
oh and coming here and posting guro and not expecting to be insulted by someone is shallow, I don't see how its too much different from tohnochan

>> No.9034434

>>9034429
I haven't posted a single picture of guro. My first post in this thread was explaining my thoughts on the topic.

>> No.9034445

>>9034434
Well then that's my mistake in assuming it then

>> No.9034457
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Me, I just see it as an extrapolation of the fictional suffering people always enjoy. Sad stories are good. Drama that makes you want to cry is good. Hell, some fiction even directly portrays tragic deaths.

This fictional suffering evokes certain emotions. Images like these do the same thing for me. It's just beautiful to see characters suffering like this.

>> No.9034469

Welp, CP in another thread proves there's no moderation lurking around, great night this is.

>> No.9034473

> this thread.
Didn't expect the human race to be that fucked up.

>> No.9034483

Oh you poor naive soul, I wish I could be as innocent as you again

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Fascinating views this thread has.

>> No.9034506

>>9034473
Everyone loves killing things.
Videogames, movies, and stuff like that.
The only people who aren't like that I've noticed are the very autistic like you.
The world isn't pure. Look at wars

We have the benefit of obtaining the rewards that would be obtained from cruelty, while completely avoiding the cuelty part. You could even write it as the girl being indestructible and obtaining pleasure from these acts of mutilation on herself. Would it then not be in the wrong to not torture her?
You think that these things are wrong because they are in the real world. Do you think you're fucked up for killing pedestrians in grand theft auto? The emotions experienced by characters here are at a higher form of abstraction, but its still essentially the same.

>> No.9034520

>>9034506
Once again ?I say that grown men being killed relatively quickly not to be compared to a child being tortured.

>> No.9034525

we're all a little mad :D some more than others.

>> No.9034528

>>9034506
what the FUCK are you on about

>> No.9034557

>>9034520
Yes, but these are imaginary children.
that is a vital point. You can enjoy the parts of it while still not causing pain to anyone.

And it is not enjoying them suffering per se, but having their emotional range completed. You've already seen a sibling sleep, cry, in pain, happy, and all that stuff. That makes them complete from all you're experiences with them.
2D girls don't have that benefit, since you can only view them from one angle from which the author made it available for them to be viewed. This is mostly because he is not focusing on the character, but on the complete setting and story. Focusing entirely on the character as the center and main focus would detract from storytelling, even if it was a saga.
A complete description of a character in 2D has every emotion amplified of course. No girl is as shy as Mio, as a ditzy as Yui in reality. Those are amplified, and for the same reasons you should amplify the painful expressions from something like a stubbed toe, to being impaled.

>> No.9034563

>>9034506
>Do you think you're fucked up for killing pedestrians in grand theft auto?
Incidentally, I hate all GTA games. You love killing stuff? I don't.
Even people like you who enjoy torturing people, of course i'll hate you, of course i'll say that killing you would be the best thing to do.
Yet, you know what? In the end, even if it's you, someone will be killed, and however you look at it, it's a sad thing from my perspective.

>> No.9034564

>>9034557
I was responding to the "everyone loves killing things" post. I've already heard your reasons for liking abuse and guro, and good for you.

>> No.9034568

>>9034563
>Even people like you who enjoy torturing people

Hmggsggffffffffff
Did you even read my posts? Its not about the torturing.

>> No.9034578

>>9034557
Not the same guy. I have little against guro personally.

However, it is important to see that guro, as a fetish, has very much to with the confusion between sexual arousal and violent/pain stimuli.

>> No.9034575

>>9034568
How else are you going to see it without torture, in the end that's what others see because they don't particularly share your view about ranges of expression.

>> No.9034588
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>>9034575
Not all suffering in such pictures has to be torture. Freak accidents are also pretty common.

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>>9034588
That doesn't particularly change much.

>> No.9034603

>>9034578
Ever noticed that human creativity knows almost no boundary when it comes to violence or sex?
I think it's very natural to connect both, it's just not appropiate anymore in this day and age

>> No.9034608
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9034608

I have a fetish for alleyway justice.

Sadly, this is the only picture I have that really suits my tastes, what a shame.

>> No.9034607

>>9034603
Maybe people just grew past it.

>> No.9034612

>>9034608
Define "alleyway justice"? I don't remember those images ever having her being saved from the attacker.

>> No.9034613

>ITT: Deluded, self-righteous moralfag can't stomach that people who are less morally inclined exist; dumb psychofag trying to make it look like he's "not-so-bad".

>> No.9034620

>>9034612
Shitty characters being killed is justice.

I have a thing with her on a personal level. Believe me when I say I'm not trying to be dark and edgy, even if it seem that way.

>> No.9034623

>>9034613
It's not as black and white. I don't think you understand the middle point you made about morals.

the "self righteous" posters are just new to this, the dumb "psychofag" is just like them and explaining what he sees interesting in the pictures.

>> No.9034625

>>9034613
everyone is having so much fun and someone had to come in and say something rude.

>>9034620
It is dark and edgy, its incredibly shallow to say someone deserves being killed just because you don't personally like them

>> No.9034629

>>9034603
It's 'natural', yes.

It's less morally accepted now, too.

Why is that bad?
Do you think that we should let people act violently just because they can't distinguish feelings?

>> No.9034630

>>9034623
Nice side taking.

I'm not new to this, the excuses people give for liking guro hardly changes the fact that this thread hasn't a bit of business being here.

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>>9034625
Probably. Her image was ruined for me from the huge yuri-loving fanbase, back then when I didn't have meds some deep hatred rooted itself in my mind. Shit sucks, I'm a retard for even letting it bother me I know, but I honestly can't help it, and it's been years.

>> No.9034644

>>9034630
While it's hard to define what NSJ thinks is /jp/, I've usually found it reliable that if a thread stayed on long enough to get about 80-100 replies, then NSJ allows it. On the pace this thread is going, it may be /jp/ related very soon.

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>>9034642
There will be an enlightenment when you can learn to separate yourself from a fandom, they're all terrible and rage-inducing, no exceptions.

>>9034644
Guess what, there's also a cosplay thread with CP in it that's been there over an hour, its not so much acceptance as there is no staff here right now, and you lose credibility using terms like "NSJ"

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