/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>21346613
Holy fuck, you are the biggest autist I have ever seen in my life.

>>21326055
No one's arguing whether it's RTK or not. We're saying to use it to aid you along the way. It doesn't HAVE to be RTK.

>>21326039
>u cant do rtk in anything but isolation
It's a good thing that no one said that and that we were talking about doing it alongside reading and learning grammar.

>>21325977
>tell me how u can do rtk and it not be in isolation
>if ur doing other stuff on the side from rtk which is done in isolation by its very nature then that stuff ur doing on the side has nothing to do with rtk
I mean I got that from this but I'm realizing how retarded you are because you didn't even follow the conversation.

>>21325965
Glad to hear. So basically just more studying as I go along, until it eventually clicks.
>>21325977
Apparently not, since you were arguing earlier about how people shouldn't do it because it doesn't teach you everything. lol
You still manage to miss the entire point.

>>21325946
The argument I had with you earlier is the reason this post exists. It's more than just a reminder to read more. It's a reminder that you have to study multiple things to learn, not just one. All you're focusing on is the 'just read' part when it isn't even the core of the message.

>>21325927
We need a daily reminder in all caps of this.

>>21325835
Only correct interpretation.

>>21325825
People who interpret these things are usually laymen and they take face value conclusions from very complicated studies. I don't know what to say to you other than most people are garbage at learning how to learn. Nothing to do with age.

>>21325794
Destroy me? What was my argument again?
>>21325806
>t. fell for the 'brain plasticity as you age means that you can never learn again' meme

>>21325783
>He can't do it himself
Sorry I had to do it to you, little bro.

>>21325774
Yeah, that's exactly my point. I guess I misunderstood along the way and was arguing with myself.

>>21325739
KEK

>>21325733
Oh, then we have nothing we disagree on. You're right. I misread what you wrote, sorry.

>>21325673
I mean my point is that you would have no problem remembering the kanji if you kept practicing. I mean I'm glad you're admitting that it can be helpful if you want to recognize kanji, but using that as an argument when you refused to take part in a vital part of the learning/retaining process is weird to me. I think you think that once you practice something enough to have it in your 'long-term memory' that it stays there forever even when you haven't encountered it for months at a time.
It seems like it would work that way and it doesn't.
I've had too much experience with stuff like this. Stuff like drawing or animating that I've been practicing for months slipping out of my memory when I try to do it again..
Like I get where you're coming from and why you're thinking like this but it just isn't how it works.
>>21325680
Oh my bad, I thought your reply was malicious.

>>21325656
I love you, anon. This is exactly what I'm saying. It sucks that people are so averse to learning to write. They're missing out on a good memory device.
>>21325647
Stay mad, kanjilet.

>>21325623
So you stopped learning japanese and forgot most of what you learned because you didn't practice. It's a matter of consistency. You can't stop practicing something for 6 months, wonder why you forgot when you didn't continue to build myelan through practice.
You're supposed to build a familiarity with the mnemonics and eventually branch off without them.

Similar to construction in drawing. You can then draw memory from something you've practiced so much that you no longer need the help from the mnemonic.
>>21325645
Because I'm not saying that all people are saying that. I'm replying to what jamal thinks is a defense for hating it.
>>21325635
They're stubborn about it too. Or they're just trying to lead beginners down the wrong path by acting like you can't study things separately. They think that you either do 10000 hours of anime or you do RTK by itself. It's a different kind of retardedness.

Do people here think that if they only practice one skill and end up not magically knowing how to speak, write or read japanese, that the method that they practiced with is bad?
What is wrong with you motherfuckers?
>Practice learning kanji only 1 year in
>"How come I don't know grammar? wtf u tricked me??"
>"Learning kanji is a terrible method of learning and we should stop beginners from doing that!"
>>21325604
lol. Do you're arguing that you shouldn't do RTK because you can't study it in isolation and learn everything that isn't made to teach? Are you retarded?
No one gives a fuck if you can't learn the entire language of japanese from RTK alone. It's meant for learning kanji and kanji alone. That's why you study kanji while you study grammar and speaking. They're skills that you need to practice separately. Your argument is that if you don't learn everything from isolated study, that it's not worth doing?
Absolute brainlet.

>>21325598
You study it on the side of practicing other skills that you don't get from doing kanji in isolation? Do you really need to be walked through this?

>>21325590
Just give a warning, dummy. If they continue after being warned then that's their fault.
>Why would I want others to do RTK if I got all my cards mature and realized it was a waste of time?
You don't have to want others to do it, but you can at least stop being dishonest about it. I understand your anger, but you gotta tell me exactly what you did with RTK.
Don't tell me you thought you would copy the whole book while never practicing your others skills and turn out fine?
>>21325594 knows what's up.

>>21325573
Fair enough, but why not advertise RTK as something that some people shouldn't do, rather than put down the source and potentially put people who can handle it off the path?
>>21325577
Exactly. It's a supplement, not a main source for learning. Though it can be if approached properly.

>>21325549
Because you're a brainlet who needs to be lead around to get anywhere. Try using critical thinking skills for once. Sorry you were dumb enough for RTK to traumatize you, but you have to let it go and realize it's your fault, not the source of information.

>>21325539
How did they convince you? And when?

>>21325195
So I had the right idea. Just needed a second opinion. Even if I did skip I'd be able to learn more, come back and understand better. I feel like a translation would be a crutch aside from checking for clarification. Or to actually follow the story.
>>21325194
Yeah, makes sense. At the moment I don't know if Axanael has a translation page. I'd use it but I'd treat it like a test. I'd say what I think the answer is and then check. But that should be the standard anyway.
Is that how you approached it?