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18193659 No.18193659 [Reply] [Original]

Recommend books about time travel



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18193654 No.18193654 [Reply] [Original]

Which non-fiction books cover the specific issue of ethnic diversity and study the tendencies of different ethnic groups living in close proximity?

Looking for something that includes studies and so on about how how people generally view their own ethnic group versus another, and how this shapes their choices as to where they live, etc. Anything about ethnic diversity in general would be appreciated.



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18193612 No.18193612 [Reply] [Original]

As a Westerner, what books will help me understand Russia and its hostility towards the West?

>> No.18193630

There is no hostility towards the West in Russia. Our country was westernized many centuries ago so. You may want to read about Slavophilia movement.



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18193602 No.18193602 [Reply] [Original]

What is wisdom?

>> No.18193606

>>18193602
Realizing that whites are indeed superior to blacks

>> No.18193607

Experiential knowledge or knowledge of experience.

>> No.18193618

>>18193602
Knowledge of God

>> No.18193625

>>18193602
The only thing that matters.

>> No.18193634

It is inferior to beauty.



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18193586 No.18193586 [Reply] [Original]

Just finished this trilogy over the past few months, what are your thoughts on it?



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18193534 No.18193534 [Reply] [Original]

Good books on why women deserve rape?

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>> No.18193596

>>18193534
They don’t you retard incel. Talk to me about certain rights they shouldn’t have however...

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>>18193534
The only thing women deserve is complete ignoration.

Simply don't acknowledge them, not even with rape.

Lack of attention is what makes femoids seethe the most.

>> No.18193622

>>18193610
I agree with you to an extent. Men should shun retard tiktok girls like the pic you posted. Weirdly, it’s incels who seethe the most and take the words of these whores to heart and don’t realise there are women still out there that aren’t like this, they’re just obviously quieter and not in your face, but they’re still there

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18193643

>>18193534
>In women, on the other hand, Eros is an expression of their true nature, while their Logos is often only a regrettable accident. It gives rise to misunderstandings and annoying interpretations in the family circle and among friends.

>This is because it consists of opinions instead of reflections, and by opinions I mean a priori assumptions that lay claim to absolute truth. Such assumptions, as everyone knows, can be extremely irritating.

>As the animus is partial to argument, he can best be seen at work in disputes where both parties know they are right. Men can argue in a very womanish way, too, when they are anima-possessed and have thus been transformed into the animus of their own anima.

>With them the question becomes one of personal vanity and touchiness (as if they were females); with women it is a question
of power, whether of truth or justice or some other “ism”—for the dressmaker and hairdresser have already taken care of their vanity.

>The “Father” (i.e., the sum of conventional opinions) always plays a great role in female argumentation. No matter how friendly and obliging a woman’s Eros may be, no logic on earth can shake her if she is ridden by the animus.

>Often the man has the feeling—and he is not altogether wrong—that only seduction or a beating or rape would have the necessary power
of persuasion.

>Anyone who still had enough sense of humour to listen objectively to the ensuing dialogue would be staggered by the vast number of commonplaces, misapplied truisms, cliches from newspapers and novels, shop-soiled platitudes of every description interspersed with vulgar abuse and brain-splitting lack of logic.

>It is a dialogue which, irrespective of its participants, is repeated millions and millions of times in all the languages of the world and always remains essentially the same.

- C.G. Jung Psychology and Alchemy, Pages 14-15.

>> No.18193655

>>18193622
>there are women still out there that aren’t like this
I'd say that 75% of millennial women and 90% of zoomer girls are unapologetic whores. If you insist on interacting with them, it's inevatiable you'll be getting tricked and cucked in no time. To be fair, it's pointless to get agitated because of the inherent female nature, but I can't see any reason why should I participate in sexual market where these sluts have nearly absolute control and freedom.



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18193509 No.18193509 [Reply] [Original]

ITT books that make you want to nuke California



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18193494 No.18193494 [Reply] [Original]

What the fuck is wrong with booktubers? It's all nihilists, schizos and normies.

>> No.18193497

Is there anyone else for you that isnt in one of those categories? Why are you watching booktubers anyway?

>> No.18193499

Booktubing exists only for attention-seeking.

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18193508

>>18193499
This is mostly true, but sometimes not

>> No.18193633

>>18193494
Because the people who gain knowledge because they want to be recognized as knowledgable are bound to be godless



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18193486 No.18193486 [Reply] [Original]

I FUCKING HATE THE GREGORIAN CALENDAR. WHY THE FUCK CAN'T WE HAVE A LUNAR CALENDAR? 28 DAYS PER MONTH, ONE DAY OUTSIDE THE CALENDAR.
FUCKING CHRÉTIENS.

>> No.18193525

did the bird make it

>> No.18193558

>>18193525
Unfortunately, no.

>> No.18193588

>>18193486
They should have saved him.

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18193640

>>18193486
>Gregorian calendar
WE HAVE A CAESARIAN CALENDAR AND YOU WILL LEARN TO LIKE IT



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18193483 No.18193483 [Reply] [Original]

Books like War and Peace, Moby Dick, Great Expectations, etc are essentially children’s lit. This is not to say they are low quality, but if you’re not reading them by age 12 at the very latest, then there is little hope for you and you’re probably not gonna make it. And I don’t mean you’re not gonna make it as a writer. But as a reader, a citizen, a human.

>> No.18193487

This is so tiresome.

>> No.18193496

>>18193487
Maybe if you had started reading great works earlier you could have formed a more substantial reply.

>> No.18193504

>>18193496
I don't want to talk to you. Shoo, shoo.

>> No.18193505

Good thread guys



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18193445 No.18193445 [Reply] [Original]

I hate him. I hate him and his stupid fucking long-winded books that either say nothing or say only trite nonsense.

His books have the same message and formula as your average Indian soap opera, and yet the latter aren't considered some high form of art.

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>> No.18193512

>>18193503
>But he could not think.
What does that even mean?

>> No.18193532

>>18193512
Don't you get it? He didn't conform to my idea of "good" therefore he's a bad thinker!!
Seriously though, I think it has more to do with the sophistication of his ideas and its novelty. I have only began reading Anna Karenina, but I think >>18193503 is pointing at how his ideas are neither new nor extremely cogent.

>> No.18193539

>>18193471
This. I don't understand why people on this board read novels as an extension of philosophy, morals, religion or other kinds of general conceptualizations.

>> No.18193569

>>18193503
>with more depth than you’ve read anything
Imagine being so insecure you need to assert just how good of a reader you are

>> No.18193577

I haven't read anything by him because I'm utterly sick of 19th century novels, but I think you shouldn't judge a novelist according to his "ideas".



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18193341 No.18193341 [DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

From a pure objective socio-economic point of view why are incels hated when they go overseas to find a wife, is almost like they're wanted to work for 60 years for the west and then die alone

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>> No.18193434

>>18193429
i haven't been on here in months i'm not a jannie, your brain is mush

>> No.18193439

>>18193429
lol based

>> No.18193442

>>18193432
based retard, they ignore the ugly but they can't ignore the ugly and happy/successful that's the point jesus christ you're a dumb nigger

>> No.18193444

>>18193408
>you're an irrelevant background character in their life
True. However, there is irritation when someone of lower social status than you finds greater happiness.

>> No.18193451

>>18193442
dilate tranny
>>18193444
never really noticed but I usually keep my emotions to myself



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18193339 No.18193339 [Reply] [Original]

I've recently read "Der dümmste Sibiriak" by Bruno Brehm and some books by Kurt Kluge and greatly enjoyed them. Sadly, most literature written in the 30s and 40s that wasn't Exilliteratur has become obsucre and quite hard to find these days.
Do you know any other good books written under the Third Reich, or are they rightfully forgotten?

Also, feel free to post some general German book recommendations and talk about German literature.

>Books recommended by anons:
https://pastebin.com/j3KDzJBZ

>Learn German
>Karl Sandberg's German for Reading is still considered to be the best book for acquiring the ability to read German.
https://languagelearning.site/german/german-for-reading/

>The FSI German Basic Course was developed in the 1960s by the US government’s Foreign Service Institute with absolute beginners in mind. It teaches you the necessary basics.
https://archive.org/details/Fsi-GermanBasicCourse-StudentText/Fsi-GermanBasicCourse-Volume1-StudentText

Don't be afraid of using apps like Duolingo or Babbel, they are also great tools, especially for training listening comprehension.

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>> No.18193464

>>18193458
Isn't there a German medieval text called Der Borte? it seems quite interesting

>> No.18193514

>>18193461
>Why Drei Frauen and not Torless?
I think Drei Frauen has more modernist elements, it's also a great introduction to Musil as it's probably his most accessible work while also not lacking depth. But you're right, Törleß is more essential, I will change it.

>>18193464
>Isn't there a German medieval text called Der Borte?
Yes, it's quite raunchy, like many medieval and early modern works. Wittenwiler's Ring is also a great example of this genre. The female protagonist is called Mätzli Rüerenzumph, which roughly translates to "Harlot Grabthedick".

>> No.18193604

>>18193461
Rilke is Austrian though, and then you've opened the door to Kafka, Bernhard etc. who would otherwise belong on the list.

Oh, shit, but Musil!

>> No.18193617

>>18193604
>Rilke is Austrian though
dont make that distinction.
Just change it to german language literature then.
Seeing "german" as only modern germany is a very american point of view.

>> No.18193637

>>18193604
Austrians are Germans. But even if you don't think so, Austrian literature is still a part of German literature. The Nibelungenlied was also most likely written down by someone from the area that today is Austria.



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18193337 No.18193337 [Reply] [Original]

Where do you download ebooks nowadays?
is lib gen still the best?
It doesnt seem to have newer books.

>> No.18193392

I don't download ebooks because it drives up the price of books for people who play by the rules.

>> No.18193397

Gutenberg project is good if the book is in your native language. Its all public domain so translations are usually shit

>> No.18193402

which is to say that I am a better person than anyone who pirates ebooks, and if there were more people like me in the world than people who pirate books then the world would be an objectively better place, and digital goods would be cheaper, and there would be less crime, death, illness, etc.

>> No.18193410

>>18193337
Libgen
B-ok
Avaxhome
Sanet
Archive.org

If I can't find a book on any of these sites I request it on Libgen's forums and it's usually uploaded soon.

>> No.18193417

>>18193337
New books are for buying, unless you actually want good writers to fail.



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18193304 No.18193304 [Reply] [Original]

Title. I’ve been doing a bit of world building for this book I’m working on and I can’t help but feel that all my ideas I come up with are either too unoriginal or have been done better by a different writer. I feel like I just take my favorite parts of different stories and just merge it into one big clusterfuck. I’ve read online that it’s normal to feel that way as a beginning writer but I just can’t shake the feeling that I’m not being original enough.

>> No.18193581

>>18193304
I don’t really do worldbuilding anymore but right after I stopped I started slowly making all the connections to other people’s work and realized how unoriginal I was. Over the years though I’ve still been thinking about it and making changes to just in my head and it’s slowly morphed into something more original. I’d say just keep doing it and as it all builds on itself it will become more your own



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18193298 No.18193298 [Reply] [Original]

Any progress on your novels?

Previous thread:>>18173808

For Prose:
>The Art of Fiction
>Story Genius: How to Use Brain Science to Go Beyond Outlining and Write a Riveting Novel (Before You Waste Three Years Writing 327 Pages That Go Nowhere)
>On Becoming A Novelist
>Writing Fiction: A Guide to Narrative Craft
>How Fiction Works
>The Rhetoric of Fiction
>Steering the Craft
>On Writing, Borges

For Poetry:
>The Poetry Home Repair Manual
>Western Wind: An Introduction to Poetry
>This Craft of Verse, Borges

Related Material:
>What Editors Do
>A Student's Introduction to English Grammar
>Garner's Modern English Usage

Suggested books on storytelling:
>The Weekend Novelist
>Aristotle's Poetics
>Hero With a Thousand Faces
>Romance the Beat

Suggested books on getting your fucking work done you lazy piece of shit:
>Deep Work
>Atomic Habits

Traditional publishing
> Formatting manuscript
https://blog.reedsy.com/manuscript-format/
> Write a query
https://www.janefriedman.com/query-letters/
> Track your query
https://querytracker.net/

Other Resources
>General grammar/syntax/editing help
https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/purdue_owl.html
> When/where/how should I write?
https://jamesclear.com/daily-routines-writers
> What software should I write with?
https://self-publishingschool.com/book-writing-software-best/
> Amazon Publishing to make that KDP monie
https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G200635650
> Be like Charles Dickens and write serially
https://www.royalroad.com/
> Basic overview of the Screenplay format
https://screenwriting.info/



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18193297 No.18193297 [Reply] [Original]

I want to give room for my world to breathe before the plot starts picking up, showing all the peaceful and chill aspects of living there, but I'm worried I might make it too "daily life" and turn off readers.

What are some good examples of world-building before plot?

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>> No.18193351

>>18193327
I have a weird habit of greatly underestimating my audience. Thanks for the reality check.

>>18193335
Sounds weird

>>18193338
I'll keep that in mind as well, thanks Anon.

>> No.18193433

>>18193297
If you want to write a book with a lot of world building before plot, just do it. If you want to write a book that will appeal to most people, you're probably gonna have to make the plot facilitate world building.

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>>18193338
You can always write the stories first for the normalfags. Then write a book of worldbuilding and backstory for those who want more.

>> No.18193459

>>18193297
You can always come back to settings later, anon. No need to drop everything on the reader at once

>> No.18193562

>>18193297
Are you actually fat, like the frog in the picture? It's relevant.



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18193283 No.18193283 [Reply] [Original]

>noooo Goderino is deaderino and le transcendent basis of morality is fake
>just make up your own values bro and be yourself
>what do you mean neuroscience and behavioral science has shown that "you" are a loose fickle concept easily influenced by constant environmental pressures? I'm not outdated reeeeeeeeeee

>Christianity is sklavenmorale even though it's served as the basis of the entire Western civilization and helped ensure we're not uncivilized barbarians like every other civilization on earth!!!
>what do you mean that mentally ill outcasts like me are only allowed to exist in society because of Christianity's concept of mercy?

>It's not my fault I had a meltdown and no woman likes me, I hold the keys to the world's hardest problems just not mine!!!!
>I swear I'm not a dumb neurotic incel and likely a closeted faggot!!! I can solve the problem of the death of God but it's not my fault I can't get laid or perform basic social functions!!! I'm still smart!!

:O

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>> No.18193375

>>18193283

>Christianity is sklavenmorale even though it's served as the basis of the entire Western civilization and helped ensure we're not uncivilized barbarians like every other civilization on earth!!!

big lol

>> No.18193393

>>18193354
You attacked two of his core theses by putting forth 2 assumptions, one of them with little grounds outside conjecture, the other which is still unfinished in its research.

>> No.18193415

>>18193283
Seethe more bunkerchud, 8 more years

>> No.18193431

>>18193283
You're just projecting all of your insecurities onto him and you likely haven't read a single page of any of his books.

>> No.18193646

>>18193283
>muh sex
Hedonists have no reason to live and every reason to die. True ataraxia is only found six feet under ground. It takes something more to keep me alive.



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18193270 No.18193270 [Reply] [Original]

Happy birthday Hume, thank you for being refuted

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18193547

>>18193535
*dying*
"You c-can't prove the missile killed me."
*dies and so hundreds of millions of lives are saved*

>> No.18193593

>>18193519
Me

>> No.18193632

>>18193519
Immanuel Kant, and in a big way

>> No.18193641

>>18193632
That hack was BTFO harder than anyone in the history of philosophy except perhaps Russell

>> No.18193656

>>18193632
Nah. Kant showed that causality is a transcendental category thus it is only applicable to phenomena. Hume stated that we impute causality between things which is basically the same thing Kant was arguing for in more detailed terms.



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18193264 No.18193264 [Reply] [Original]

What is the consensus omnium on this man? What distinguishes him from Orientalist scholars of the 19th century other than his faith? And isn't Tasawwuf bida' and some of its practices a form of shirk? I've always considered the only correct usul al fiqh that of Ibn Hanbal.

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>> No.18193294

>>18193284
Hamza Yusuf (Mark Hanson) is an American scholar and indeed among the most prominent scholars of Islam in the Western world living today. He studied with Ibn bin Bayyah in Mauritania.

>> No.18193319

>>18193264
He is a beautiful rhetorician. Hear the man weaves poetry into his speaking to add profundity to his ideas. Absolutely stunning. I personally like him, but I prefer
to listen and read Abdal Hakim Murad because he is gentle and hopeful.

With regards to tassawuf, it isn't bid'ah and you really should not have this "this is definitely the truth" idea in this religion because it is egotistical, and at the inception of our religion, we have always been diverse. Look at the sunnah and the Quran and you'll find multiple affirmations to the legitimacy of multiplicity. As long as he holds to the Quran and believe in the oneness of God and His Prophet, he is a Muslim. End of story.

Happy Ramadhan and may you have a beautiful iftar this evening.

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18193390

>>18193319
Is mastery over the Arabic language required to understand Islam to its fullest?

>> No.18193582

>>18193390
Hmm, to understand the sources and be a judge, yes.
To be a good Muslim, not really.

>> No.18193642

Fuck Islam, Allah, fuck Muhammad, fuck you



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